The Biscari Massacre, U.S. War Crime (World War II)

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  • @sviatoslavs.1305
    @sviatoslavs.1305 5 років тому +5355

    Lt. Gen. Patton: "NO MERCY!"
    *The officers will remember that.*

    • @Cody4K420
      @Cody4K420 5 років тому +13

      That was funny

    • @justin764
      @justin764 5 років тому +13

      Joshua N. Ajang “THERE WILL BE NO MERCY.”

    • @TheCat48488
      @TheCat48488 5 років тому +8

      And some people wonder why political correctness exist

    • @gerardoroman1180
      @gerardoroman1180 5 років тому +8

      Mercy is for the weak

    • @last_week_with_diogo_br8386
      @last_week_with_diogo_br8386 5 років тому +11

      Mamamia my spaghetti just got blown 🇮🇹

  • @ricefarmer7772
    @ricefarmer7772 5 років тому +3478

    Patton: SHOW EM NO MERCY!
    The Two Soldiers: *Yeah, this is big brain time*

  • @Blitz-0012
    @Blitz-0012 5 років тому +10333

    Patton: Show no mercy.
    Soldiers: *Shows no mercy to the POWs*
    Patton: Wait no

    • @stevecooper7883
      @stevecooper7883 5 років тому +306

      Just following orders, right Nazis?

    • @moralcoach717
      @moralcoach717 5 років тому +393

      @@stevecooper7883 Plus they're turning the frogs gay

    • @Krepo4
      @Krepo4 5 років тому +65

      Steve Cooper who are you calling nazis?

    • @kaybevang536
      @kaybevang536 5 років тому +44

      Mexico is trash it’s a X men reference when magnito found Nazis in Argentina

    • @ipeebluud1438
      @ipeebluud1438 5 років тому +5

      Churchill is God libtard

  • @dogeity5231
    @dogeity5231 2 роки тому +162

    *Goes on Wikipedia to search for American war crimes committed*
    Wikipedia: *This list is incomplete, you can help by expanding it.*

  • @aptmighty1461
    @aptmighty1461 5 років тому +22153

    Remember kids it’s not a war crime if you win.

    • @brunocardoso6435
      @brunocardoso6435 5 років тому +1166

      ... they did win
      And it was still a warcrime, edgelord

    • @jellybeans0493
      @jellybeans0493 5 років тому +1851

      @@brunocardoso6435 What he means by that is that as long as you win you may set the rules for what is okey and what isn't. At the end of the day, war is war and these things happen in pretty much every war.
      And tbh this title should have been "The Biscari Massacre, A story about two US soldiers who went rogue" because it wasn't really executed by the goverment of the US.

    • @SimakSantana
      @SimakSantana 5 років тому +108

      this wasnt a war crime

    • @reinatr4848
      @reinatr4848 5 років тому +624

      @@SimakSantana -it was-

    • @magicman3163
      @magicman3163 5 років тому +19

      APTMighty true

  • @stevanstamenic7320
    @stevanstamenic7320 5 років тому +3228

    Patton: Show no mercy
    180th division: shows no mercy
    Patton: *Wait, thats illegal*

    • @hunter70558
      @hunter70558 5 років тому +5

      old me me

    • @stevanstamenic7320
      @stevanstamenic7320 4 роки тому +7

      @Jay Arre true

    • @mihailomilojkovic2743
      @mihailomilojkovic2743 4 роки тому +8

      Jel si ti neki balkanac?

    • @stevanstamenic7320
      @stevanstamenic7320 4 роки тому +5

      @@mihailomilojkovic2743 da

    • @mihailomilojkovic2743
      @mihailomilojkovic2743 4 роки тому +2

      @@stevanstamenic7320 Pa tako treba brate! Nego šta misliš o ovom sranju s videa? Kakve veze ima? A da su ih pobili iz zasede ili tokom juriša to ne bi bio ratni zločin? Niti su ih maltretirali, niti išta drugo. To je rat. Šta očekuju ovi debili? Ubistvo civila se treba najstrože kazniti, ali kazniti nekoga jer je ubio neprijatelja u toku rata je apsurdno!

  • @jpgoss9986
    @jpgoss9986 5 років тому +4484

    one of the two German soldiers killed was Luz Long, a German athlete who competed in the 1936 Olympics against Jesse Owens.

    • @rockyadessa3274
      @rockyadessa3274 4 роки тому +63

      Is this true

    • @ginoderschütze
      @ginoderschütze 4 роки тому +190

      He was also Jesse's best friend

    • @actualideas8078
      @actualideas8078 4 роки тому +18

      jt goose thanks for pointing that out. Now I’m going down a Jesse Owens youtube tunnel

    • @actualideas8078
      @actualideas8078 4 роки тому +34

      Gino Romanelli and Jesse was his sons best man

    • @jpgoss9986
      @jpgoss9986 4 роки тому +75

      @@rockyadessa3274 according to Wikipedia, yes. Some sources say he tried to escape and was shot leading to blood lost, but it is know for sure is that he was stationed at the San Pietro airfeild during the invasion of Sicily and that he died in Sicily after a surender of forces there

  • @dr.randomz6782
    @dr.randomz6782 3 роки тому +1100

    “It’s not a white flag if you burn it.”
    -Sir Zanny, 2019

  • @idaho6533
    @idaho6533 5 років тому +3100

    Patton: show them no mercy
    Also Patton: for legal reasons, that was a joke

    • @nsxzlaz8569
      @nsxzlaz8569 5 років тому +78

      For serious us gov please dont kill me thats a joke

    • @andrejstojanovic2141
      @andrejstojanovic2141 5 років тому +43

      @@nsxzlaz8569 for serious please UN don't kill me that is a joke

    • @mannylugz5872
      @mannylugz5872 5 років тому +21

      Like Philippine president Duterte. Kill them! (after all the deaths) Oh, just a joke.

    • @DaveSmith-cp5kj
      @DaveSmith-cp5kj 5 років тому +19

      @@nsxzlaz8569 That is the irony and why war crimes are stupid and have never been followed:
      "He committed a war crime! We need to go to war with him!"
      Total derp moment on an international scale.

    • @Maharlikan_1898
      @Maharlikan_1898 5 років тому

      @@mannylugz5872 *lmao*

  • @B20C0
    @B20C0 4 роки тому +8342

    Politicians: "I'm not responsible, I wasn't even there!"
    Generals: "I'm not responsible, I'm dealing with strategy, not with tactics!"
    Officers: "I'm not responsible, I just did my job!"
    Soldiers: "I'm not responsible, I just followed orders!"

    • @bretzel1026
      @bretzel1026 4 роки тому +950

      EXACTLY! And yet the US called it an invalid excuse during the Nuremberg Trials. Hypocrites, man.

    • @luciano2003.
      @luciano2003. 4 роки тому +98

      In the Malvinas war the same thing happened.

    • @TheBigMclargehuge
      @TheBigMclargehuge 3 роки тому +223

      It's almost as though these things are natural results of war and no one is really at fault.

    • @bretzel1026
      @bretzel1026 3 роки тому +289

      @@TheBigMclargehuge but at the Nuremberg trials, that wasn't the case!

    • @20_mihir48
      @20_mihir48 3 роки тому +11

      @@bretzel1026 can you tell me what happened though ???

  • @eddiespaghetti54321
    @eddiespaghetti54321 5 років тому +2456

    Patton: “Show then no mercy!”
    Soldiers: Ok
    Patton: Wait no not literally.

    • @Valandix
      @Valandix 5 років тому +60

      *Drops bombs who killed thousands of thousands of civilians*
      US : Wait, this is war crime or not?Nevermind, we'll win so we don't care

    • @fulcrum2951
      @fulcrum2951 5 років тому +14

      @@TwoAyemlol European Theater: Warsaw, Rotterdam, London, much of the cities in the Soviet Union
      Asian Theater: The cities in China and South East Asia

    • @fulcrum2951
      @fulcrum2951 5 років тому

      forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=199639#p1799035

    • @fulcrum2951
      @fulcrum2951 5 років тому +5

      @@martymethuselah the objective of the allied bombing was the destruction of any war potential of the axis, even if there's collateral damage
      What's the objective of the axis during their bombing?

    • @martymethuselah
      @martymethuselah 5 років тому +8

      @@fulcrum2951 Axis Germany and Japan were fighting for survival ..obviously...
      USA and UK were planning extermination..
      why do you think this is covered up to this day
      sheesh..

  • @faselfasel2864
    @faselfasel2864 3 роки тому +641

    Considering the stance the allies took during the nuremberg trial, Patton going completely unpunished when he clearly said "kill surrendering enemies" is just ridiculous.

    • @capncake8837
      @capncake8837 3 роки тому +21

      He was killed, but not for that reason.

    • @oluftheexplorer9476
      @oluftheexplorer9476 3 роки тому +17

      In all honesty, if Patton issued such an order I'd speak out. If he did it again, he would be gunned down, and I'd be what he wasn't, man enough to take the punishment.

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle 3 роки тому +35

      I understand why nothing happened DURING the war since he was too much of an asset
      But after things are over well
      You don't really get charged with war crimes once you win

    • @teyvattravelguide8555
      @teyvattravelguide8555 3 роки тому

      Heck if I was a german soldier I would have shot hitler myself even if it meant me getting killed in return

    • @teyvattravelguide8555
      @teyvattravelguide8555 3 роки тому

      If they really wanted to surrender they would have done it before even fighting and killing a bunch of innocent greens. They just surrendered because this pussycats knew they were gonna die if they kept fighting. Im glad they died their death wouldnt even account for all the men, fathers, brothers, husbands, boyfriends they killed.

  • @Cybermat47
    @Cybermat47 5 років тому +4877

    Patton: “Kill anyone who surrenders.”
    180th Infantry Regiment: >kills people who surrender<
    Patton: “That’s not what I meant!”

    • @magicman3163
      @magicman3163 5 років тому +29

      Cybermat47 you mean kills enemies

    • @williamschutz4982
      @williamschutz4982 5 років тому +14

      Seems about right.

    • @Orignal_Français
      @Orignal_Français 5 років тому +83

      @ Wait, you know that in WW2, most soldiers on the ground weren't professionnal enlisted but conscript and at one point for most of them, were green without any experience ?

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 5 років тому +41

      ​@@Orignal_Français That's a point sadly most people don't know.
      Besides that, the Americans also gave a few Felons the Chance to redeem themself by volunteering to fight.
      Unsurprisingly some of these Felons ended up committing War Crimes, rarely they were punished for that.
      Now before someone goes "But":
      Yes Towards the End of the War, we Germans also enlisted Criminals, who just like the American Ones, also ended up committing War Crimes.
      Unlike the American Criminal Groups, the Axis ones were either executed at the end of WW2 or at least charged and punished.
      My point being: Not only inexperienced People without or almost without training were forced to serve in WW2 by each side, but also actual Criminals who then ended up committing Warcrimes.

    • @jadenresurreccion2948
      @jadenresurreccion2948 5 років тому +11

      Patton: Surprised Pikachu face

  • @lordfoogthe2st68
    @lordfoogthe2st68 5 років тому +1470

    “War crime, I have committed, orders, I was just following”

    • @bartomiejzakrzewski7220
      @bartomiejzakrzewski7220 5 років тому +6

      yeah thats how they answer !

    • @fellascallmethedrink
      @fellascallmethedrink 5 років тому +72

      *Hmmm, gun down Italian prisoners of war I must.....revenge for them killing the ones I love I must have.......*

    • @zbluzgamer3007
      @zbluzgamer3007 5 років тому +7

      @@fellascallmethedrink hmm i Revenge because say that New York pizza suck

    • @Uhhh_Lemme_Check
      @Uhhh_Lemme_Check 5 років тому +19

      Slaughtered my friends they did. Had it coming they did... vengeance I have.

    • @TK--hf6db
      @TK--hf6db 5 років тому +27

      Committed war crimes I did. Torched civilians in Nam I did.

  • @Nyxtify
    @Nyxtify 5 років тому +6488

    Patton: No mercy
    US: kills surrendered Italians
    Patton: no don't do that

  • @andyfriederichsen
    @andyfriederichsen 2 роки тому +185

    Another interesting fact is that Patton thought making his soldiers "killers" who wouldn't take prisoners would make the enemy fight less. It's actually the opposite, as enemies are going to fight much harder if they think they are going to be tortured or killed upon surrendering.

    • @Teufer2
      @Teufer2 2 роки тому +17

      It really depends on the situation. The enemy is more likely to flee if they believe the enemy will "give no quarter" in a battle. But if they have no way to flee, like if they are surrounded or the know they will be executed for desertion if they do so. They will fight to the bitter end.
      Not an historian. But probably one of the reasons why the Waffen SS were such dangerous enemies is because they knew they were hated by the allies. Far more likely just to be shot if they tried to surrender. So they often fought to the bitter end.

    • @mk-ultraviolence1760
      @mk-ultraviolence1760 Рік тому +2

      @@Teufer2 Gee, whatever did they do to warrant such treatment?

    • @marianotorrespico2975
      @marianotorrespico2975 10 місяців тому +1

      @@mk-ultraviolence1760 --- Ask the surviving civilians, if any.

  • @soupenjoyer6173
    @soupenjoyer6173 5 років тому +2289

    *tells troops to commit war crimes*
    "He probably had no idea what kind of problems this would cause"

    • @thebeastgamerharris7816
      @thebeastgamerharris7816 5 років тому +8

      Lmao

    • @papovka
      @papovka 5 років тому +96

      There's been plenty of cases in history of people ordering "no mercy" and then giving mercy. It is just inspiration for the troops to be tough & the enemy to be scared

    • @lafika1634
      @lafika1634 5 років тому +21

      BigT I think patton said that to make his boys grow balls

    • @aleksandarrudic3694
      @aleksandarrudic3694 5 років тому +26

      @@lafika1634 It is always cowards who commit war crimes.

    • @reaganjohnson4166
      @reaganjohnson4166 5 років тому +2

      I'm afraid you'll need to review the video never did he " tell his troops to commit war crimes" you're sorely mistaken

  • @thotexterminator5239
    @thotexterminator5239 4 роки тому +8666

    imagine the war crimes that were never reported or seen

    • @luiscastanon6031
      @luiscastanon6031 4 роки тому +590

      CLASSIFED DEEP IN THE CIA AND GUARDED BY THE CIA

    • @no898
      @no898 4 роки тому +237

      @@luiscastanon6031 dude are you alright? Did the CIA do something to you? Hope you have a good life... if youre dead well rest in peace...

    • @luiscastanon6031
      @luiscastanon6031 4 роки тому +454

      @@no898 Yes they took away my I-Binocular 2386 which detects Anciet Roman Ferrets I must use my karata and diseal fueled D.E.A cordinator which is designated below is my Optimum sheer holder of objects which is made with Tibitan bricks being reinforced with Sober Conquistador skull which withold pencils of Anhilation aka my desk which stores my beloved 'I-Binocular 2386 which detects Anciet Roman Ferrets'

    • @no898
      @no898 4 роки тому +260

      @@luiscastanon6031 🗿

    • @HHHThanatos
      @HHHThanatos 4 роки тому +85

      And imagine warcrimes were made known and the messenger gets 35 years.

  • @O_Tade
    @O_Tade 5 років тому +3704

    Patton: Show No Mercy
    Soldiers: *Showing No Mercy*
    Patton: Wait That Is Illegall

    • @randomuser5443
      @randomuser5443 5 років тому +137

      Japan: happiness noises

    • @gootar5045
      @gootar5045 5 років тому +91

      Did Patton know what "no mercy" means?

    • @O_Tade
      @O_Tade 5 років тому +53

      @@gootar5045 probably not.

    • @janflantier7969
      @janflantier7969 5 років тому +39

      whait this whole operation was you re idea

    • @claytonpactol8851
      @claytonpactol8851 5 років тому +8

      WTF Patton.

  • @insertnamehere6659
    @insertnamehere6659 3 роки тому +298

    Knowing your own country's history and failures is important. We should never let the past be forgotten, no matter how cruel, violent or inhuman it may seem.
    That said, it still saddens me deeply that this happened. A real stain on my country's honor.

    • @Nikku4211
      @Nikku4211 3 роки тому

      It's why your country has no honour.

    • @unoriginalclips9923
      @unoriginalclips9923 3 роки тому

      @@Nikku4211 what country are you from

    • @SETTHENIGHTONFIYAHH
      @SETTHENIGHTONFIYAHH 2 роки тому +4

      @@unoriginalclips9923 india i think

    • @SETTHENIGHTONFIYAHH
      @SETTHENIGHTONFIYAHH 2 роки тому

      I do not agree but i respect ypur oppinion very well tho.

    • @dragonchaser3262
      @dragonchaser3262 2 роки тому

      This is how I feel about all these morons tearing down the confederate statues. We'll end up forgetting about the past.

  • @coryobrien8154
    @coryobrien8154 5 років тому +1473

    The animator of this series must be a fellow gun nut. Every weapon was exact to detail but everyones head is shaped like a grape

    • @emorynguyen1583
      @emorynguyen1583 5 років тому +76

      That’s the art style and history buff’s probably probably a better title

    • @kwerty9671
      @kwerty9671 5 років тому +6

      I don’t think that’s a big problem to me

    • @1967davethewave
      @1967davethewave 5 років тому

      Lol!!

    • @daehkcidemos
      @daehkcidemos 5 років тому +20

      Cory Obrien ok boomer

    • @aleccross3535
      @aleccross3535 5 років тому +23

      Better than infographics, if you ask me. That show is just a whole lot of annoying inaccuracies.

  • @nicolagotti4437
    @nicolagotti4437 5 років тому +284

    someone was even in worst condition, Giuseppe Giannola was executed 3 times during the invasion of sicily, he manage to survive all of them

  • @Society_Dweller
    @Society_Dweller 5 років тому +4962

    Patton: “Show no Mercy”
    180th Infantry Division: “So anyways, I started blasting”
    (Edit as of May 12th 2021) That moment when you spark a historical debate in the replies

    • @bazkervillerouge750
      @bazkervillerouge750 5 років тому +11

      Lmao

    • @swizzy6010
      @swizzy6010 5 років тому +5

      Bwahahahaha 😂😂😂

    • @WalldoTheWInner
      @WalldoTheWInner 5 років тому +13

      Those damn liberal yahoos...

    • @thatsclassified1
      @thatsclassified1 5 років тому +17

      our soldiers DO NOT deserve a life sentence fpr killing pows when we nuked japan and 70% were civilian

    • @brandoncoleman673
      @brandoncoleman673 5 років тому +39

      @@thatsclassified1 The Geneva Convention covers conventional weapons... nuclear bombs aren't conventional weapons.

  • @vintageadventure-l6m
    @vintageadventure-l6m 3 роки тому +336

    In the end, it all comes down to a matter of personal character. My father knew a man who was a corporal in the Canadian Army. He was bringing three German prisoners to a POW station when a lieutenant drove up in a jeep, told him to shoot the prisoners and get back to the front. The corporal refused. The lieutenant told him to shoot them or he would have the corporal court-martialed for disobeying orders. The corporal held his rifle out and told the officer, "If you want them dead, you kill them." The officer drove away, the corporal finished escorting the prisoners, and returned to his unit. He was never even spoken to about it.
    In the heat of combat, mistakes happen. I do not presume to condemn men who are frightened for their lives when they do things to insure their own survival even when the light of hindsight shows it was probably not a good choice. Under that kind of strain, people don't always think clearly and even if they are, they can't see the future.
    But this was not done in combat. This was a deliberate murder of unarmed men. This is the difference between war and murder. The sin of war will be visited on the heads of those who start war, the sin of murder on the hands of those who commit murder. Soldiers are not responsible for the deaths they cause in combat but they are for any deaths they cause out of it. And that holds true for all armies and all nations; no exceptions.

    • @montwestblack3678
      @montwestblack3678 2 роки тому +7

      You've got a whole theology going there mate

    • @Lorrdd
      @Lorrdd 2 роки тому +5

      You were doing so well until you said sin.

    • @lelouchvibritannia4028
      @lelouchvibritannia4028 2 роки тому +17

      @@Lorrdd You want forgiveness? Get religion.

    • @vintageadventure-l6m
      @vintageadventure-l6m 2 роки тому +24

      @@Lorrdd Your lack of faith has nothing to do with me. You don't want to believe war and murder are sins, that's up to you.

    • @GeraltofRivia22
      @GeraltofRivia22 2 роки тому +4

      Those snipers had intentionally been shooting wounded soldiers and medics.

  • @kimmyjohnny31
    @kimmyjohnny31 4 роки тому +5064

    Patton: *Show no mercy.*
    180th: **Commits War-Crime.**
    Patton: Bruh.

  • @artemshevtsov6062
    @artemshevtsov6062 4 роки тому +3942

    “I was just following orders”
    Tale as old as time...

    • @makeromaniagreatagain9697
      @makeromaniagreatagain9697 4 роки тому +36

      It's just the soldiers in the video who committed the war crimes weren't ordered to shoot prisoners

    • @dew7025
      @dew7025 4 роки тому +90

      @@makeromaniagreatagain9697 he said show no mercy tho

    • @makeromaniagreatagain9697
      @makeromaniagreatagain9697 4 роки тому +58

      @@dew7025 yes, but that can also mean to not show mercy on the battlefield towards enemy soldiers, not prisoners of war. But I agree that "show no mercy" is pretty vague and could be interpreted your way, too.

    • @dew7025
      @dew7025 4 роки тому +17

      @@makeromaniagreatagain9697 he just said show no mercy so that means no mercy at all not just on the battle field

    • @makeromaniagreatagain9697
      @makeromaniagreatagain9697 4 роки тому +10

      @@dew7025 but he said it before a battle while talking about attacking enemy positions

  • @Rex-mr8bw
    @Rex-mr8bw 5 років тому +22609

    Please, do more war crimes, this is really interesting

    • @scaffolding6952
      @scaffolding6952 5 років тому +3074

      should ask the military itself if you want more war crimes

    • @misaelramirez5236
      @misaelramirez5236 5 років тому +1898

      Not sure you might want to word it that way or maybe you do I don't know

    • @Rex-mr8bw
      @Rex-mr8bw 5 років тому +1026

      The pun was kind of intended

    • @Stopitpls
      @Stopitpls 5 років тому +677

      We need more war crimes

    • @aixamagr2897
      @aixamagr2897 5 років тому +322

      Agreed. Anyone here looking forward to a Unit 731 video?

  • @rickoftherick4610
    @rickoftherick4610 3 роки тому +38

    Patton once praised the 65th infantry regiment, but when they refused to essentially die for a lost cause (a hill) he turned against them, even tho it was thanks to the 65th infantry regiment that the marines at Chosin Reservoir where rescued.

    • @javiernegron2633
      @javiernegron2633 2 роки тому

      the 65th went unrecognized by american generals anyway bc it was a bunch of brown boys so they were viewed as expendable

  • @johnnyklebitzrevenge4793
    @johnnyklebitzrevenge4793 5 років тому +371

    I love how you incorporated the Band of Brothers reference with the slow motion Thompson fire

  • @TheJackHood
    @TheJackHood 4 роки тому +3418

    "...Just following orders..."
    **Every warcrime ever**

    • @limitess9539
      @limitess9539 4 роки тому +94

      Yeah, that's the first line of defense for anyone accused of war crimes - damage control via blaming someone else. Worse than politians lmao.

    • @thomast8539
      @thomast8539 4 роки тому +2

      @Jack Hood - Need a Kleenex Mr Weepy?

    • @TheJackHood
      @TheJackHood 4 роки тому +1

      @@thomast8539 What do you mean?

    • @Minecraftian2345432
      @Minecraftian2345432 4 роки тому +61

      Not true. There are tons of warcrimes that don't involve following orders (e.g. rape, looting, etc. ).

    • @theprodigy6713
      @theprodigy6713 4 роки тому +7

      @@Minecraftian2345432 “living off the land” was an order to Germans to plunder Russian villages. I don’t think they were threatened by death but just being hungry.

  • @halo48189
    @halo48189 5 років тому +650

    Patton: Show them no mercy
    180th Infantry division: *I'm going to do what's called a pro gamer move*

  • @charadreemurr8673
    @charadreemurr8673 3 роки тому +100

    “It’s not a war crime if we win”

    • @kv4staliniumscythe751
      @kv4staliniumscythe751 3 роки тому +2

      Its a war crime if you win

    • @borisborkovic8894
      @borisborkovic8894 3 роки тому +6

      @@kv4staliniumscythe751 it is but nobody is goona talk about war crimes done by winners

    • @chowder3239
      @chowder3239 3 роки тому +2

      @@borisborkovic8894 Bro we always talked about war crimes in history class

    • @tripledigit4835
      @tripledigit4835 3 роки тому +1

      @@chowder3239 be honest did you know about the biscari massacre before this video because I didn’t

    • @chowder3239
      @chowder3239 3 роки тому +6

      @@tripledigit4835 I did. History is a great passion of mine.

  • @xXxGordO241xXx
    @xXxGordO241xXx 5 років тому +8042

    You gotta do a future video .
    "The civilian massacre of area 51"

    • @battlesheep2552
      @battlesheep2552 5 років тому +143

      It happened -15 days ago

    • @Demon-sh2wc
      @Demon-sh2wc 5 років тому +86

      Me be liek: Those morons probably deserved it.

    • @Predator42ID
      @Predator42ID 5 років тому +55

      Sounds like something mainstream media would use. Reality, Airforce security fought bravely against fanatics citing the famous war cry. You Shall Not Pass!!.
      No military personnel were convicted while the fanatics that survived were sentenced to prison and psych wards for believing conspiracy nonsense.
      I still think the 116th Combat Calvary unit needs to be mobilized. Then again its not like it takes much time to get an A-10 loaded and in the air.

    • @darkraven5106
      @darkraven5106 5 років тому +51

      killa buds I’m pretty sure attacking a federal base with some of the United States’s top secrets and being mowed down for it would not be a massacre.

    • @darkraven5106
      @darkraven5106 5 років тому +6

      1,000 subscribers with no videos nope, Gen X

  • @Real11BangBang
    @Real11BangBang 5 років тому +765

    My great grandpa was in Sgt West's squad. He didn't talk about the massacre until right before his death. He was captured by the Italians right after the massacre and given to the germans who sent him to stalag 19. He said he never forgot how he had been taught how evil the Germans were when in fact he said that they treated the American POWs with nothing but respect. He lived with the guilt of the massacre his whole life and never really got over it.

    • @thatbirb4743
      @thatbirb4743 5 років тому +74

      Well, war is not as nice as is looks. I'm german btw.

    • @FDNY101202
      @FDNY101202 5 років тому +109

      Experiences may vary.*

    • @thebeastgamerharris7816
      @thebeastgamerharris7816 5 років тому +8

      @@thatbirb4743 it doesnt look nice at all

    • @thatbirb4743
      @thatbirb4743 5 років тому +20

      @@thebeastgamerharris7816 Tell that to the first soldiers of ww1

    • @polak.7144
      @polak.7144 5 років тому +63

      Thanks for sharing your story. I'm Italian and my grandfather fought in WW2, after the capitulation in 1943 he was captured by the germans. He wasn't as lucky as your great grandfather though. He was sent to Buchenwald, a concentration camp. He managed to escape, but he suffered severe PTSD: he was spooked by barking dogs, couldn't hear germans speaking... He kept serving his country after the war too (he was a Carabiniere in Sicily and fought against the Mafia and bandits) he died of Gangrene before I could've known him, as he refused any cure.

  • @LegitM00se
    @LegitM00se 5 років тому +4474

    Patton: "Kill anyone who surrenders."
    Soldiers: Kills anyone who surrenders.
    Patton: *surprise pikachu face*

    • @zachcraig9340
      @zachcraig9340 5 років тому +58

      Ryan McGowan it’s a dead meme, stop doing it

    • @adrianbigboss5685
      @adrianbigboss5685 5 років тому +215

      @@zachcraig9340 Sheep

    • @AP-su9oc
      @AP-su9oc 5 років тому +9

      good one

    • @cramhusame6569
      @cramhusame6569 5 років тому +108

      zach craig it’s not dead if there are still people doing it

    • @dylanmcshane9976
      @dylanmcshane9976 5 років тому +7

      There just an army of people like you with ZERO original ability in humor who copies memes as if they are mindless. Sad asf....

  • @GeraltofRivia22
    @GeraltofRivia22 2 роки тому +107

    Something conveniently left out of this video is the fact that the snipers were intentionally targeting wounded soldiers and the medics attending them.

    • @stayso4py951
      @stayso4py951 2 роки тому +17

      That’s a BIG no no

    • @bman3496
      @bman3496 2 роки тому +12

      Well it's also not a war crime to execute a combatant dressed as a 1) civilian or 2) in a stolen uniform

    • @idek6585
      @idek6585 2 роки тому +10

      @@bman3496 or a medic that's armed

    • @Jagnole101
      @Jagnole101 2 роки тому +2

      Another thing conveniently left out was that the Japanese never signed the agreement to take prisoners. The ones they did take they were cruel to. Not really a fair situation where we have to be kind to them but they don’t to us. Pinko college professors who hate America will always leave that out. They always gotta make America look like the worst when it’s not even remotely close. The Germans also literally ran over to us and surrendered as opposed to the Soviets because we gave them 3 meals a day. The Japanese butchered millions upon millions of Chinese.

    • @bobrobert1123
      @bobrobert1123 2 роки тому +2

      It's a classic sniper tactic. The Idea is to intentionally wound and not kill the first guy. Then as people gather to help you pick them off. This is why in the us military youre trained to secure the area before helping wounded.

  • @shanerr7252
    @shanerr7252 4 роки тому +3947

    "If they want to surrender you stick them in between the 3rd and 4th ribs" how can you not expect them to comit war crimes after you just told them to comit war crimes?

    • @FullMetalBaldo
      @FullMetalBaldo 4 роки тому +74

      Clearly you don't understand the difference between "not taking prisoners" and "shoot surrended prisoners "

    • @shanerr7252
      @shanerr7252 4 роки тому +383

      @@FullMetalBaldo if me and 90 other people interpreted it that way then maybe he should of explained himself more clearly

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 4 роки тому +141

      @@shanerr7252 "You'll march until your fleet bleed!"
      "What are you doing! That was an expression! No, I'm not sending you to a hospital!"

    • @matemecsnober3781
      @matemecsnober3781 3 роки тому +184

      @@FullMetalBaldo Both warcrime. If someone wants to surrender you cant just shoot him in the face

    • @bvsteel990
      @bvsteel990 3 роки тому +14

      the enemy deserves no mercy

  • @fighterace5530
    @fighterace5530 5 років тому +1532

    Patton: “Show no mercy”
    Soldiers: *Guns down POWs*
    Patton: cha cha real smooth

  • @albib3591
    @albib3591 5 років тому +1242

    You forgot an important fact. One of the german killed after surrender was Ludwig "Luz" Long, the long Jumper silvermedalist that in 1936 Olympic games tried to overcome Jesse Owens

    • @gregfrith5058
      @gregfrith5058 5 років тому +58

      According to some research, he was killed on 14 July 1943, the day of the massacre. It says he was killed in Acate, not far from the Biscari site... nothing directly ties him to the massacre, but evidence does seem to make it a possibility. More details needed...

    • @shelbyseelbach9568
      @shelbyseelbach9568 5 років тому +21

      He's no more important than any of the other men killed.

    • @lucaswilson2520
      @lucaswilson2520 5 років тому +6

      Alex Johnston in today societies you have wannabes pretending to be German and say people are inferior but yet an actual Germans born in those times didn’t care pisses me off those wannabes

    • @shelbyseelbach9568
      @shelbyseelbach9568 5 років тому +7

      @yung viral that's not crazy, in a world at war it could've happened to any German male of military age.

    • @JohnSmith-lf4be
      @JohnSmith-lf4be 5 років тому +26

      @@alexjohnston10 Jesse Owens says he was congratulated by Hitler but not Roosevelt.

  • @dustyroflman8926
    @dustyroflman8926 2 роки тому +2

    Great way to start off a video of a horrific event is a lighthearted ad!!

  • @dayofthedaleks1523
    @dayofthedaleks1523 5 років тому +381

    SGT West: Kills prisoners with a Thompson Sub Machine Gun
    St Valentines Day Massacre: Hey i've seen this one

  • @seangplays4473
    @seangplays4473 5 років тому +2761

    “Care for a smoke” Lt Ronald Speirs

    • @testfortester7131
      @testfortester7131 5 років тому +17

      SeanG Plays did speirs really do this or was it this Italian incident ?

    • @shiftyguggs2415
      @shiftyguggs2415 5 років тому +71

      Your awesome band of brothers was amazing

    • @AnhTrieu90
      @AnhTrieu90 5 років тому +16

      We don’t know that. But prior to the invasion, Gen. Taylor, the commander of the 101st did suggest that they should try not to take prisoners.

    • @ragingshibe
      @ragingshibe 5 років тому +17

      @@testfortester7131 no. Easy Company was in Normandy when that supposedly happened.

    • @christopherdempsey3878
      @christopherdempsey3878 5 років тому +2

      @@shiftyguggs2415 I remember that episode.

  • @yeettheheat
    @yeettheheat 4 роки тому +4735

    Patton: *tells his men to show no mercy*
    The men: *start killing POWs*
    Patton: *surprised Pikachu face.*

    • @TheCrowOfJudgement
      @TheCrowOfJudgement 4 роки тому +42

      👁👄👁

    • @lukasr.2563
      @lukasr.2563 4 роки тому +25

      @Dazed Confused thats not how the guineva conventipn works tho. According to your theory useing biological and chemical weapons to decimate the civilian population would be the most humane way to fight a war.

    • @biggiemediumz
      @biggiemediumz 4 роки тому +1

      Dumb attempt at a meme

    • @biggiemediumz
      @biggiemediumz 4 роки тому +11

      @@n.m.8802
      Technically nukes are chemical weapons.

    • @cf1925
      @cf1925 4 роки тому +23

      @Lukas R. Geneva Convention? More like Geneva Suggestion.

  • @Ungabunga923
    @Ungabunga923 3 роки тому +108

    This is one of the few war crimes that people know about, imagine the allied war crimes that were never reported

    • @FractalNinja
      @FractalNinja 3 роки тому +23

      Its like people forget the US had Japanese internment camps that were basically concentration camps on US soil.

    • @sheepdog5799
      @sheepdog5799 3 роки тому +17

      Every country is guilty of war crimes. Tbh is kind of a dumb concept.

    • @aldowilliams4765
      @aldowilliams4765 3 роки тому

      @@sheepdog5799 what is

    • @aldowilliams4765
      @aldowilliams4765 3 роки тому +2

      @@FractalNinja yes even though nobody was killed in them those were pretty awful

    • @Nairam10
      @Nairam10 3 роки тому +12

      The allies had concentration camps in Germany as well. They were called "Rheinwiesenlager".
      In these labor camps the surrendering German soldiers were either starved to death, shot or died of exhaustion. 1.9 Million soldiers were imprisoned in those camps. The Wikipedia article says it was only a few thousand deaths in total, while in reality it was more than 200,000. I was able to talk to a local, who survived. He said they were tortured. Furthermore they was an incident were a soldiers wife was coming to the camp to bring food to her husband -
      She was then raped and murdered.
      In general there have been lots of rapes after the defeat of Germany. Most of them were done by the red army, but also by the US and French army.
      Though, my grandma said that the US soldiers, especially the black ones have been nice. When they drove by, they gave chocolate to the kids.

  • @dominus8524
    @dominus8524 5 років тому +4830

    Mussolini: “Look how they massacred my boys,”

    • @burpostockings
      @burpostockings 5 років тому +30

      Lol

    • @giacox6119
      @giacox6119 5 років тому +48

      I don't think he was alive in the last clashes

    • @dominus8524
      @dominus8524 5 років тому +5

      Hyper Beast true

    • @dominus8524
      @dominus8524 5 років тому +12

      Krystyon KR Martin yep

    • @LuisDiaz-wv4xr
      @LuisDiaz-wv4xr 5 років тому +49

      "I don't want their motherland to see them like this"

  • @daemon.running
    @daemon.running 5 років тому +1694

    Sgt found guilty, officer acquitted. typical.

  • @willsmithsslaps3555
    @willsmithsslaps3555 2 роки тому +9

    Lt General: “so your weapon misfired 35 times”
    Them: “50 times actually sir”

  • @bijotitus3251
    @bijotitus3251 5 років тому +2435

    If this was done by the germans, then there'd be a dozen of Hollywood movies based on this incident

    • @user-ud7du2pb4v
      @user-ud7du2pb4v 5 років тому +110

      Thats right...

    • @tomato9593
      @tomato9593 5 років тому +41

      i feel like they already did

    • @tomato9593
      @tomato9593 5 років тому +86

      they also committed genocide so...

    • @user-ud7du2pb4v
      @user-ud7du2pb4v 5 років тому +147

      @@tomato9593 So what? Just because they did the USA can make it too?

    • @tomato9593
      @tomato9593 5 років тому +35

      Tomatenmark the movies where about the genocide part which the USA did not commit

  • @Schniedel69
    @Schniedel69 5 років тому +2247

    killing POWs wont make the enemy surrender. They will just fight harder.

    • @metalreignz6557
      @metalreignz6557 5 років тому +62

      神風Kamikaze 神風 didn’t they lose tho?

    • @candice6980
      @candice6980 5 років тому +37

      davison ruiz bruh

    • @ivanslonj9261
      @ivanslonj9261 5 років тому +25

      Not in Italian case.

    • @derbasierte4194
      @derbasierte4194 5 років тому +185

      davison ruiz And yet Germany fought full of courage and honour til the bitter end.

    • @jonahsoldier9736
      @jonahsoldier9736 5 років тому +212

      @Crystal Dreams America because the difference between a single American executing a couple dozen pows and a Japanese army lowering the population of a Chinese city from 300,000 to 300 is pretty fucking large

  • @DoBraveryFPS
    @DoBraveryFPS 4 роки тому +1731

    Historically.. snipers never faired well after surrendering. On the Eastern front, killing a surrendering sniper was fairly common.

    • @marcbalaram383
      @marcbalaram383 4 роки тому +170

      Just like machine gunners in the first world war.

    • @Z3ZP
      @Z3ZP 4 роки тому +54

      I think you still got the bounty on killing a sniper if it was present, even if he had surrendered.

    • @michaelj6392
      @michaelj6392 4 роки тому +259

      Fred S back in medieval times they used to kill archers or cut their fingers off. People don’t like being shot from far away.

    • @deutscherpatriot4370
      @deutscherpatriot4370 4 роки тому +120

      @@marcbalaram383 snipers were also killed in ww1 in almost every war they hated them

    • @ph11p3540
      @ph11p3540 4 роки тому +76

      Same with flame thrower troops.

  • @MrGrim
    @MrGrim 3 роки тому +24

    Im so glad that our government/military numerous war crimes and atrocities are so well known that they can be explained and displayed in fun and informative animations! (no hate to the channel)

    • @yankee8018
      @yankee8018 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah no mention of what the Italians did to us soldiers though

    • @bestdogshadow383
      @bestdogshadow383 2 роки тому +8

      @@yankee8018 Because its a video on what the US did not the Italians?????

    • @unoqualunque993
      @unoqualunque993 2 роки тому

      ​@@yankee8018 What us italians did on you? We never did anything on POWs, nor to anybody else.

    • @DilipKrJha-yb6nv
      @DilipKrJha-yb6nv 2 роки тому

      @@unoqualunque993 it's a fucking war it's not even that big of a war crimes compared to axis

    • @sinanyegen8907
      @sinanyegen8907 2 роки тому +1

      @@DilipKrJha-yb6nv you can't compare warcrimes. A crime is a crime

  • @zeemer7040
    @zeemer7040 5 років тому +665

    Patton: show no mercy.
    soldiers: killing POWs
    Patton: well yes, outstanding move, but it's illegal.

    • @tomfoolery3142
      @tomfoolery3142 5 років тому +16

      This madlad just combined well yes but actually no, outstanding move and wait that’s illegal. What a legend

    • @zeemer7040
      @zeemer7040 5 років тому +6

      @@tomfoolery3142 you forgot it ain't much, *but it's* honest work

    • @tomfoolery3142
      @tomfoolery3142 5 років тому +1

      Zeemer ok I’ll count it by rule of cool

  • @Stormbringer2012
    @Stormbringer2012 5 років тому +1216

    Typical "military justice" Officer gets away with it and nco gets imprisoned

    • @TheZINGularity
      @TheZINGularity 5 років тому +56

      They both got away with it in the end.

    • @googlepissoff5776
      @googlepissoff5776 5 років тому +38

      RedCorsairr: Thankfully Compton was killed in combat, like he deserved

    • @Stormbringer2012
      @Stormbringer2012 5 років тому +22

      @@Euan_Miller43 Yeah that's like saying A guy commits murder and then gets off scott free but it's ok since he died in a car accident later on

    • @oscartheamazing6745
      @oscartheamazing6745 5 років тому +13

      @@googlepissoff5776 He was just following orders given to him by a higher rank; i'm not saying he should have killed the Italians, but he was given orders.

    • @cycleplays2219
      @cycleplays2219 5 років тому +32

      @@oscartheamazing6745 No, his direct orders that he was under was to deliver the prisoners to intelligence. He clearly understood the orders as he split off a few prisoners to hand over to intelligence.

  • @defenseintelligenceagency4311
    @defenseintelligenceagency4311 4 роки тому +4331

    "It's not a warcrime if they have oil" - Sun Tzu Art of War

    • @xeraphyx7903
      @xeraphyx7903 4 роки тому +44

      best comment

    • @grimace5800
      @grimace5800 4 роки тому +73

      Cover yourself in oil

    • @Xboxplayerpinoy
      @Xboxplayerpinoy 4 роки тому +54

      Olive oil

    • @Nob911
      @Nob911 4 роки тому +14

      Not even correct at all

    • @Ks-rp3mt
      @Ks-rp3mt 4 роки тому +2

      @@cyberNinja69477 one of these videos have already been removed. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @darkwaters1010
    @darkwaters1010 3 роки тому +70

    100% Patton's fault. He gave the orders to gun them down when they see them.

    • @marcusbdb8367
      @marcusbdb8367 3 роки тому +3

      Not at all

    • @klartraum8495
      @klartraum8495 3 роки тому +3

      And the soldiers pullled the trigger. They're equally responsible.

    • @kevinc.cucumber3697
      @kevinc.cucumber3697 3 роки тому +1

      @@klartraum8495 tell a child that committing crimes are good and they will do it. Most of military failures always comes down to commanding officers, not foot soldiers. Foot soldiers are doing what they’re told.

    • @borisborkovic8894
      @borisborkovic8894 3 роки тому

      @@marcusbdb8367 you drunk?

  • @nathandeal9703
    @nathandeal9703 5 років тому +557

    My grandfather who served as a medic in the army always said that Patton was a bully, now I can see why.

    • @tommyatkins2527
      @tommyatkins2527 5 років тому +30

      and your grandfather is right i mean im sure patton wanted to cover up this as he would be liable to answer why he said what he said to the troops

    • @peanutbuttersandwich5015
      @peanutbuttersandwich5015 5 років тому +31

      My dad always said that we should have invaded Russia after the war like Pattern wanted to.

    • @peanutbuttersandwich5015
      @peanutbuttersandwich5015 5 років тому +17

      big boy gustav I didn’t say I agreed with him.

    • @geth7112
      @geth7112 5 років тому +5

      Yeah I remember my grandfather never like him either

    • @leoa4c
      @leoa4c 5 років тому +5

      I would call him something worse.

  • @Blackaceed
    @Blackaceed 5 років тому +2038

    Patton: NO MERCY!
    Soliders kill
    Patton No! i said NEW JERSEY

  • @jamsya8
    @jamsya8 4 роки тому +4153

    History books and teachers: *I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that*

    • @Kekian0
      @Kekian0 4 роки тому +71

      I mean you have to remember this is one small part in a huge things of couse they wouldnt teach it its very minor and insignificant

    • @andrzejwysocki609
      @andrzejwysocki609 4 роки тому +218

      the Brits committed genocide in India
      school history teacher: im going to suspend you for bringing that up in class.

    • @ASSassINS111111
      @ASSassINS111111 4 роки тому +163

      @@Kekian0 to say this is minor and insignificant in sign of ignorance. This is a good information to educate people on how gruesome war is, that it can turn a person into a mass murderer.
      This is a good reminder on how fucked up a war is on making us hating each other to the point we would mass murder certain groups while we gain nothing from it

    • @aaronm4706
      @aaronm4706 4 роки тому +39

      @@andrzejwysocki609 I've never had a history teacher who would forbid anyone from bringing up a historical subject, and any one that would shouldn't be allowed to teach. I feel like mine all did a pretty good job of teaching both sides of history.

    • @elpanda470
      @elpanda470 4 роки тому +57

      Well I think that's the problem with the extreme nationalism in america, they almost never admit that they might have done some things that weren't that cool. I'm very sorry but I'd call this propaganda.

  • @Winter_lights
    @Winter_lights 3 роки тому +11

    Patton: wait why did u do that?
    The two soldiers: *hold on, this whole operation was your idea.*

  • @ancientwarrior3482
    @ancientwarrior3482 5 років тому +1615

    Some German soldier: I will go to the western front and surrender, I don't want to be brutally killed by the Soviets!
    American soldier: *kills the surrendered German*
    The German soldier: [visible confusion]

    • @justastrider3252
      @justastrider3252 5 років тому +29

      wtf is your profile pic

    • @rolandhunter
      @rolandhunter 5 років тому +15

      Eisenhower death camps please xD

    • @m7ray
      @m7ray 5 років тому +48

      @DevilTrigger No, german soldiers with mongols was the most brutal soldiers of all time. U.S. soldiers in Vietnam was much more humane than germanans in eastern front.

    • @m7ray
      @m7ray 5 років тому +22

      @DevilTrigger BTW in the Eastern Front of WWII the most humane soldiers was Spanish and may be Italians. The most brutal was Germans and Hungarians.

    • @Gerbs1913
      @Gerbs1913 5 років тому +20

      If the German was a sniper then yes. Snipers often had high kill counts, so if one was captured they were killed on the spot.

  • @miosanjuan7687
    @miosanjuan7687 5 років тому +394

    Fun fact: Luz Long the Olympic Runner and friend of Jesse Owens was one of the two Germans killed in that massacre.

  • @thelastcommander8765
    @thelastcommander8765 5 років тому +537

    How about Balangiga Massacre. They just literally killed a whole town

    • @elpresidentedearmas8837
      @elpresidentedearmas8837 5 років тому +5

      Damn

    • @lefrog3669
      @lefrog3669 5 років тому +25

      even they killed the old, the women and children in balangiga

    • @mousecheese3363
      @mousecheese3363 5 років тому +13

      Le Frog yeah so did the Germans also clean out towns in Poland.

    • @Odibio.Skins.
      @Odibio.Skins. 5 років тому +105

      @@mousecheese3363 that is never an excuse civilians have nothing to do with those killings. Always the "some specific enemies did it to us so we can do it to random people that were under their general control too"

    • @mousecheese3363
      @mousecheese3363 5 років тому +3

      billy mays I wasn’t using it as a excuse I was just reminding that the Nazis did worse.

  • @Ace_Clayton
    @Ace_Clayton 2 роки тому +5

    Patton: Have no mercy
    180: commits war crime
    Patton: THAT WAS NOT ME

  • @adepressedcatwithabadnicot246
    @adepressedcatwithabadnicot246 4 роки тому +4106

    As a veteran, I understand the importance of disobeying unlawful orders, and that war crimes should be punished.
    But why is it always the Joe's that get punished, why aren't officers like Patton charged with giving unlawful orders?
    Edit: y'all I know why we don't, it's rhetorical, I making commentary on the nature of responsibility and authority.

    • @quazifaiyaz1
      @quazifaiyaz1 4 роки тому +334

      it is due the fact that patton was war hero it would change public opinion if he was tried America was meant to be the savior not the killer simple propaganda to keep the world in order

    • @qdaniele97
      @qdaniele97 4 роки тому +67

      Sad, but it will always be like that.

    • @fazediamondback617
      @fazediamondback617 4 роки тому +19

      Thanks for your service but it's the fact that if it's a "change for the better" or a low level thing that is made up for easily then the enemies become heroes

    • @dougthealligator
      @dougthealligator 4 роки тому +12

      The Nuremberg trials only presided over the crimes of officers.

    • @adepressedcatwithabadnicot246
      @adepressedcatwithabadnicot246 3 роки тому +7

      @riptide 23 "if"
      skeptical one aren't you?

  • @crunchykevlar
    @crunchykevlar 5 років тому +1547

    War crimes committed by all sides, absolutely tragic

    • @kristoffersparegodt420
      @kristoffersparegodt420 5 років тому +27

      Agreed

    • @user-ri5oc5rw5b
      @user-ri5oc5rw5b 5 років тому +48

      Agreed poor germans may they rest

    • @shibavekreal
      @shibavekreal 5 років тому +195

      skullberry US kills like 100 people in a year while Germany and Japan torture millions in a month. It’s not comparable (but it doesn’t excuse the US).

    • @manuelcampi8956
      @manuelcampi8956 5 років тому +21

      @@user-ri5oc5rw5b Italians*

    • @aixamagr2897
      @aixamagr2897 5 років тому +36

      Imperial Japan: Hold my sake...

  • @trueslav7430
    @trueslav7430 5 років тому +2057

    A American history chanel that doesn't potray Americans as all time heroes
    *WAIT THAT IS ILLEGAL*

  • @mikehancho2082
    @mikehancho2082 2 роки тому +9

    Im over here like “Wtf! How did that happen?!”
    Simple History: “Men under General Patton began…”
    Me: “Ohhhhh. Ok. Yeah.”

  • @Pottzy
    @Pottzy 5 років тому +59

    It's impressive to see how consistently the animation quality of this channel just continues to improve, well done guys

    • @genjon1
      @genjon1 5 років тому

      While i enjoy the cartoon esk nature of the animations and characters i do love seeing better detailed items, weapons and the like. This channel is by far my favorite and most watched!

  • @luggilu7864
    @luggilu7864 4 роки тому +1425

    Patton : kill everyone, even if they surrender.
    Alao patton: why would they kill everyone, even if they surrendered?

    • @zeferinoresendiz1698
      @zeferinoresendiz1698 4 роки тому +6

      Bruh

    • @timtim6373
      @timtim6373 4 роки тому +58

      @Umar Rahman and that would accomplish what exactly?

    • @amini011
      @amini011 4 роки тому +11

      @@timtim6373 he didn't think this one through lol

    • @chickenmonger123
      @chickenmonger123 4 роки тому +12

      @@amini011 Oh he did. He just doesn’t see it as an issue. The hypocrisy. The issue of vengeance in place of an ethical justice. Not an issue for him. We stab you, you stab us, in an endless cycle because the madness of wrath is desirable to him. To anyone interested in the dichotomy of red vs. blue. a vs. b. 1 vs. 2.

    • @mr_h831
      @mr_h831 4 роки тому +12

      He didn't say for them to kill prisoners of war, he just said to be aggressive, and to kill the "bastards."
      Never once did he eay, "kill prisoners of war." Patton meant combatants, not prisoners. His men just took it... Far too literally... Probably due to war fatigue.

  • @RexWort
    @RexWort 5 років тому +1596

    "Violence video games promote violence"
    More like a old General's speech does more damage

    • @jaylopes8489
      @jaylopes8489 5 років тому +13

      @White_ Wulf_
      Is Seth Rich also Trump's fault . . .

    • @jaylopes8489
      @jaylopes8489 5 років тому +41

      @White_ Wulf_
      The day Trump got elected a white male was pulled out of his car and beaten by 4 Africans - they called him a "Trump supporter" without ever asking him, next day the media dropped the report . . .

    • @xzzyyy4686
      @xzzyyy4686 5 років тому +15

      @White_ Wulf_ 'Think I'll go watch some Ww2 American warcrime videos so I can slag off Trump in the comment sections to people I've never even met and will never meet, that'll convince them'
      What are you even doing with your life?
      I strongly suggest you get one

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 5 років тому +3

      Imagine if Hillary would have won, it would be a hate crime to be white

    • @osoufmiller5499
      @osoufmiller5499 5 років тому +2

      Generals speech 20+ offence

  • @katikamprudhvi3649
    @katikamprudhvi3649 2 роки тому

    One of the best UA-cam entertainment channel ever seen.. with true history events.

  • @vietalt2803
    @vietalt2803 5 років тому +671

    Patton:SHOW THEM NO MERCY
    soldiers:Executes the Italian POWS
    Patton:You're not supposed to do that

  • @iiiiiiiiii5019
    @iiiiiiiiii5019 3 роки тому +3982

    Unlike "The infographic shows" , this channel is pretty neutral.

    • @sbevexlr848
      @sbevexlr848 3 роки тому +110

      Wait how are they biased?

    • @Laurence23760
      @Laurence23760 3 роки тому +63

      Yea explain?

    • @sonofsanto
      @sonofsanto 3 роки тому +610

      @@sbevexlr848 Infographics is pretty neutral they just hate him because he has talked about murderous communist dictators like mao stalin and pot more than right winged fascist dictators like pinochet videla and etc up to now

    • @sbevexlr848
      @sbevexlr848 3 роки тому +47

      @@sonofsanto ohhh ok that makes sense 🤣

    • @oxymornicalt
      @oxymornicalt 3 роки тому +519

      @@sbevexlr848 Theyre not biased, but they also aren’t that accurate, and they lean on popular misconception.

  • @NoOdL3z18
    @NoOdL3z18 4 роки тому +1360

    I once worked at a retirement home. I distinctly remember an old US Army Veteran, who was on his deathbed, admitting that his unit, hunted down Waffen SS troops who were trying to hide among the population at the end of the war and murdering them instead of capturing them.
    I don't remember his exact words, but he explained in vivid detail that he personally took part in the murder of an SS soldier somewhere in Belgium near the German border in early 1945. The German Armies in Belgium were collapsing and German soldiers were deserting or surrendering by the thousands. He said the locals pointed out that a German soldier was hiding in an abandoned farmhouse near their village. They knocked on the door and the man that they were looking for opened it. They asked him some questions and he admitted that he was an SS soldier. Without another word, he was immediately shot in the doorway multiple times, the upper half of his body landed inside the house with his feet laying outside. He was left to die.
    Apparently his actions haunted him so much that he kept it a secret for 65 years and wanted to clear his conscience before he passed away. It's messed up, man.

    • @mrsullied
      @mrsullied 3 роки тому +67

      Incredible story. I hope talking about it helped him let go in the end.

    • @mrsullied
      @mrsullied 3 роки тому +53

      @RussianOperator. Or at the very least take his pudding cup back. "No Geneva Convention = no dessert!"

    • @borisborkovic8894
      @borisborkovic8894 3 роки тому +8

      😢

    • @Stancedude1
      @Stancedude1 3 роки тому +19

      Most of the SS soldiers were the one taking part in the mass genocide of Jewish people. I feel for the Wehrmacht and luftwaffe and navy. But not for hitlers personal SS army

    • @flip849
      @flip849 3 роки тому +22

      @@Stancedude1 only a small part of the ss. Don't you think they were needed at the front instead? The ones you're talking about were rear line troops not fit for combat

  • @darkroseky8117
    @darkroseky8117 2 роки тому +5

    "It's not a War Crime if you win."
    Patten Problably.

  • @Ccciuzz
    @Ccciuzz 5 років тому +358

    I am Italian, but I've never known about this massacre. I wonder why?

    • @MarkTools
      @MarkTools 5 років тому +49

      First of all: this fact is serious, but it's a little thing in the WW2 perspective. Moreover, the italian situation after WW2 was complicated. Most of war crimes from "both" sides were amnestied, and most of what happened was secreted for decades. So no surprises if we didnt know about it.

    • @ethanramos4441
      @ethanramos4441 5 років тому +15

      The problem was the 180th infantry regiment was battle Fatigued and suffer heavy losses because the unit was comprised of national guards units from Oklahoma and Colorado. Most of them were inexperienced. Right before in order to get their spirits up Lt General George S Patton gave a Speech to booster their moral and prepare them for the fighting of what’s to come. Unfortunately some of them mistook parts of Patton speech as an order.

    • @spartanwarrior1
      @spartanwarrior1 5 років тому +14

      Russian Bias says the russian commy, lol.

    • @SomeGunNerd
      @SomeGunNerd 5 років тому +11

      As an American, the fact that this happened disgusts me.

    • @americanatlas3631
      @americanatlas3631 5 років тому +19

      @Russian Bias Covered up? You're literally watching a youtube video about it...

  • @user-Jay178
    @user-Jay178 5 років тому +68

    Wow I never heard of this in school. Great video and this is tragic

    • @aixamagr2897
      @aixamagr2897 5 років тому +17

      They left out a lot. Japan literally got away with murder.

    • @Klaus_Fischer
      @Klaus_Fischer 5 років тому +14

      Rape of Nanking anyo-
      *Some Japanese ducktape my mouth shut*

    • @combineadvisorwithinternet6040
      @combineadvisorwithinternet6040 5 років тому +6

      @@Klaus_Fischer 5:20 Me and the boys looking at The Gaming Knight while he has been ducktaped.

    • @fellascallmethedrink
      @fellascallmethedrink 5 років тому +3

      I mean, if you live in the U.S of course you wouldn't.

    • @Nathan_Whaley-g8m
      @Nathan_Whaley-g8m 5 років тому +1

      I feel like 90% of the history I learned in high school was about politics, Native Americans, and the constitution. Which sucks considering history was one of the few classes I enjoyed in school, I gave my best speech in public speaking on WW2. Football was a far higher priority for my school, that and the one time a rock band visited the school and played for the football team, they spent like 10 grand on a plaque to 'Memorialize it...

  • @thatshooter8709
    @thatshooter8709 5 років тому +1657

    '' Remember, no Italian. ''

  • @dw5116
    @dw5116 3 роки тому +15

    When you start digging into war crimes committed by the US its concerning just how often the term "they were national guardsmen" comes up

  • @albertoamoruso7711
    @albertoamoruso7711 5 років тому +502

    Please do a video about the Laconia incident
    (German and Italian ships tried to rescue British sailors from drowning and got torpedoed in the attempt)

    • @carljohnson4473
      @carljohnson4473 5 років тому +84

      @@chainsaw5302 yes it is

    • @Handhandme
      @Handhandme 5 років тому +35

      @@chainsaw5302 yes, it exists

    • @icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851
      @icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851 5 років тому +38

      @@chainsaw5302 it pretty much means that they got hit by a torpedo. If you didnt know

    • @Mr-Noot
      @Mr-Noot 5 років тому +15

      That sounds interesting but very sad

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 5 років тому +22

      Never! They were never torpedoed. They were strafed and bombed by B-24s whose crews had first reported the rescue attempt, then were ordered to attack anyway.

  • @a.m.1750
    @a.m.1750 5 років тому +1196

    2019- Fail height and weight= dishonorable discharge.
    1944- Kill 36 unarmed prisoners= demotion and an honorable discharge.

    • @maxfinazzo2443
      @maxfinazzo2443 5 років тому +71

      But did he fail height and weight tho?

    • @MarineCorpsDixon
      @MarineCorpsDixon 5 років тому

      Hahahaha

    • @notsure7404
      @notsure7404 5 років тому +4

      He got VA disability, too!

    • @Humco_ND2
      @Humco_ND2 5 років тому +67

      Being overweight during boot camp resulting in being sent home is not a dishonorable discharge, it is a general discharge.

    • @JohnDoe-jq4re
      @JohnDoe-jq4re 5 років тому +24

      Blows up an entire city of civilians = congratulations and medal

  • @pauliejay4161
    @pauliejay4161 5 років тому +379

    "The enemy snipers were especially effective from concealed positions" - yeah, well, that's what makes them snipers.

    • @thecommentaryking
      @thecommentaryking 5 років тому

      The fun part is that there were no snipers

    • @nathanb.8114
      @nathanb.8114 5 років тому

      So youre saying when a sniper of rank goes out of his position, hes "not" considered a sniper!?

    • @pauliejay4161
      @pauliejay4161 5 років тому

      @@nathanb.8114 Isn't the definition of a sniper that they are a concealed shooter?

    • @maximumthrottle5391
      @maximumthrottle5391 5 років тому +2

      @@pauliejay4161 no, a sniper is a soldier that specializes in long range engagement.

    • @pauliejay4161
      @pauliejay4161 5 років тому

      @@maximumthrottle5391 dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sniper

  • @SOVIET_UNION910
    @SOVIET_UNION910 2 роки тому +24

    "It's not war crime,it's freedom 🇺🇸🦅"

    • @artken4901
      @artken4901 2 роки тому +3

      But your a commie....

    • @IvaWing
      @IvaWing 2 роки тому

      or "democracy for dummies" to live simply for simplesons with no thoughts at all
      you've said irony to spit their own words right in their faces

    • @Leopold_Strauss
      @Leopold_Strauss 2 роки тому

      MURICA its just the price of freedom MURICA

    • @Mk18_40mm
      @Mk18_40mm 2 роки тому +6

      The Soviet Union is talking about war crimes lol

    • @IvaWing
      @IvaWing 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@Mk18_40mm indeed it never did. Soviet officers are "soviet", "communist", valuing life more then money. And NATO is of capitalist countries - selfish "sold-iers", that previously were even worse - "imperial" holding races, countries as their colonies

  • @Cairo40000
    @Cairo40000 4 роки тому +719

    Patton: show no mercy
    180th division: *commits war crime*
    Patton: I wasn't being serious

    • @MiroPVP
      @MiroPVP 4 роки тому +6

      Guido Mista Ha April Fools!

    • @Red__Ray
      @Red__Ray 4 роки тому +8

      After this video I really doubt Pattons Intelligence... I MEAN WHAT THE F DO YOU EXPECT?

    • @TheKruz-ox6fo
      @TheKruz-ox6fo 4 роки тому +2

      @@Red__Ray He probably expected exactly what happened. He was a psychopath. I don't mean to say he wasn't an effective general, but anything I've read about him makes me think that he liked killing and violence.

    • @slovakvladimir6533
      @slovakvladimir6533 4 роки тому +1

      4

    • @MrCrazy-eb5cg
      @MrCrazy-eb5cg 4 роки тому

      @@TheKruz-ox6fo what did you make believe that he was insane ?

  • @rabbit3734
    @rabbit3734 4 роки тому +758

    Nobody:
    Lieutenant Spiers: "Anyone care for a smoke?"

    • @1911Zoey
      @1911Zoey 4 роки тому +31

      Is this a band of brothers reference? Rip

    • @2tone305
      @2tone305 4 роки тому +22

      BRUH this scene flashed thru my mind as i was watching this

    • @danjones4432
      @danjones4432 4 роки тому +12

      Ahhh a man of culture I see

    • @whosagoodgirl5846
      @whosagoodgirl5846 4 роки тому +3

      Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa yeah on d day speirs went up to a group of POWS and gave them a cig and then shot em

    • @cheetogaming6351
      @cheetogaming6351 4 роки тому +4

      I was looking just for this comment

  • @mpcrauzer
    @mpcrauzer 4 роки тому +1957

    what i have learned about War crimes, its only illegal if its the enemy doing it

    • @bigbubba3383
      @bigbubba3383 4 роки тому +43

      Have you heard of Vietnam?

    • @mpcrauzer
      @mpcrauzer 4 роки тому +79

      @@bigbubba3383 yes, and also the Gulf war

    • @adrunkdwarf3066
      @adrunkdwarf3066 4 роки тому +62

      Actually it was still illegal, and the soldiers who did performed these crimes often got executed by firing squad. It's a shame you were born such a brain dead fool, incapable of seeing the truth.

    • @jucedecimus3448
      @jucedecimus3448 3 роки тому +5

      The phrase “war crime” makes no sense to me lol

    • @ShiftyTribes
      @ShiftyTribes 3 роки тому +64

      @Griffyn Makene lol you're extremely biased and brainwashed. Pretty clear you haven't taken more than a cursory glance at ww2 either. Winners write the history books, and you've just eaten up the propaganda. Also it absoulutely wouldn't be "information overload " children could comprehend the truth of historical events instead of what makes the allies look better and the axis look like bumbling pure evil movie villains. Wouldn't require more time in class, there are plenty of significant events that aren't flat out lies and don't put allies in a good light, could easily be worked into the curriculum to give a more truthful, balanced account of the war instead of purely biased, sometimes untruthful accounts. You are literally saying having a balanced, truthful account that humanizes and shows the atrocities of both sides, instead of the biased propaganda taught in history classes now is untenable for the children. Shows where your mind is at, gotta keep that cycle going eh?

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 3 роки тому +6

    My father went from Normandy to Hamburg with 53rd (Welsh) Division. He spoke eloquently about the harrowing effects of war on young men who were not warlike.
    He spoke also of the difficulties of peace in the aftermath of war.
    He said things I have never heard or read elsewhere.
    One thong he came back to was the dilemma of surrender and capture. He said it would be very hard to resist the urge to shoot a surrendered man who moments earlier had killed your friends and had been trying to kill you.
    It seemed a reasonable point.
    I didn't push for details, although I suspect he did resist.
    He also spoke of fear of capture, citing the same reason.
    "We knew we might.... We worried that they might, too".
    I have never worn uniform, bit I imagine this anxiety is not uncommon.

    • @marishiten5944
      @marishiten5944 2 роки тому

      Good lord, who cares? I can't even read your comment you are so disinteresting.

  • @NartNeyut01
    @NartNeyut01 5 років тому +1264

    Are you gonna do “the My Lai Massacred” during the Vietnam War

  • @freeza12341
    @freeza12341 5 років тому +290

    Sergeant: "Sir, some of the enemies are surrendering, what do we do?"
    Sir: "Take them down the road for questioning"
    Sergeant: "I'm about to do what's called a pro gamer move"

    • @mrcocoloco7200
      @mrcocoloco7200 5 років тому

      Oooh!

    • @GeraudRulz
      @GeraudRulz 5 років тому +1

      "Questioning" I know what you mean Sir... *Wink wink

  • @mcsmash4905
    @mcsmash4905 5 років тому +335

    I hope this will make certain groups of people understand that litteraly everyone commited war crimes during that war

    • @exen8650
      @exen8650 5 років тому +22

      some committed a lot more than others, but yeah

    • @404eitch
      @404eitch 5 років тому +45

      @@christoph8769 No, the Germans did it because it was literally their end goal to murder a majority of the population in the east, not just to defeat the Soviets. See also: Generalplan Ost.

    • @ErikaDatEnbie
      @ErikaDatEnbie 5 років тому +34

      @@exen8650 whats the difference between a murderer that killed 8 people and one who killed 13? none both should be executed end of the story... the axis paid, but the allies?

    • @gmiller4165
      @gmiller4165 5 років тому +22

      matthyit dat boy the allies weren’t committing genocide on a scale of millions.

    • @costakeith9048
      @costakeith9048 5 років тому +21

      @@ErikaDatEnbie 'Victors are not judged.' -- Stalin
      If the axis didn't want to pay the price they shouldn't have lost the war.

  • @lime1602
    @lime1602 3 роки тому +4

    This is a great example and it proves true that the winners write history. I had never heard of this until now

    • @yeshuaislord6880
      @yeshuaislord6880 3 роки тому

      Well you aren't a history buff. There are thousands of battles that I've heard of that I know you do not know. Your poor knowledge is not evidence that true winners write history. How the flip do you think he knows about this war crime if "the winners write history"?

  • @harrisonrawlinson4602
    @harrisonrawlinson4602 5 років тому +389

    General Patton should’ve also been held responsible, in his speech, he ordered the men to ignore the Geneva convention

    • @Nathan_Whaley-g8m
      @Nathan_Whaley-g8m 5 років тому +11

      It wasn't a good way to go about it, but it is the average soldiers job to uphold the Geneva convention. You are expected to have good enough morals to say no.

    • @KC-bg1th
      @KC-bg1th 5 років тому +74

      Nathan Whaley
      I don’t think the 18 year old kids that were drafted, had the Geneva convention as their main focus when being shipped out to war. lol

    • @tbp4172
      @tbp4172 5 років тому

      Harrison Rawlinson disagree

    • @harrisonrawlinson4602
      @harrisonrawlinson4602 5 років тому +8

      Kevin C I think that ‘don’t kill prisoners’ was pretty common knowledge

    • @cubby530
      @cubby530 5 років тому +1

      Harrison Rawlinson the Also didn’t care about the Geneva conventions I think that they deserved it

  • @ProfessionalScofflaw
    @ProfessionalScofflaw 5 років тому +336

    Inexperienced unit: ✓
    Tough battle with heavy unit casualties: ✓
    Sharpshooters:✓
    Trigger happy Officers: ✓
    Attempted cover-up: ✓
    Guess Mi Lai was just another one in the pattern.

    • @Ranstone
      @Ranstone 5 років тому +17

      It's called war.
      The only difference between the US, and any other countries is we _eventually_ admit to our war crimes.

    • @mgway4661
      @mgway4661 5 років тому

      @1234 and who is this? I want to watch it

    • @filzhut6234
      @filzhut6234 5 років тому +4

      @@Ranstone Well, in that regard Germany is far ahead of you.

    • @maesterchris2120
      @maesterchris2120 5 років тому +3

      @@Ranstone The only difference between the US and other countries is that America's state sponsored terrorism is supported by their white collar criminals

    • @TriloBite_Me
      @TriloBite_Me 5 років тому +1

      @@maesterchris2120 And the children of barely educated blue collar workers.

  • @gnumblinjones69
    @gnumblinjones69 4 роки тому +1400

    “Remember, No Italian”

    • @awdasadsad6048
      @awdasadsad6048 4 роки тому +66

      unless theyre in the act of cooking pasta or pizza

    • @jim7279
      @jim7279 4 роки тому +20

      @Uvuvwevwevwe Onyetenyevwe Ugwemuhwem Osas and lasagna

    • @Jimbo90331
      @Jimbo90331 4 роки тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @cgtymirket
      @cgtymirket 3 роки тому +2

      what does it mean?

    • @jim7279
      @jim7279 3 роки тому

      @@cgtymirket uh

  • @SALTYDEVIL
    @SALTYDEVIL 2 роки тому +6

    Korean wars Hill 303 Massacre would be an interesting piece to cover. Thank you for yalls hard work!

  • @jackp.richardson6415
    @jackp.richardson6415 5 років тому +525

    *Italian and German soldiers surrender*
    Horris T. West : "Yeah I believe you. But my Tommy Gun don't!"

  • @Bergen98
    @Bergen98 4 роки тому +623

    I am Russian, and I am sure incidents like that happened everywhere on Eastern Front, like 100%. Fact is, they were probably not even documented

    • @lolofblitz6468
      @lolofblitz6468 4 роки тому +38

      80% or german army died in Russia 20% other fronts wow.......... soviet union was winner not Allies

    • @KryoNaut
      @KryoNaut 3 роки тому +94

      @@lolofblitz6468 "Soviets were winner not allies" you sure forgot the fact it was Japan and Germany. Germany being crushed from both sides was what caused it's fall. Just Germany vs Soviets? A bloody war which wouldn't have gone the way you think
      Also Japan only surrendered due to US efforts mainly. Without the Nuke and essentially sacrifice of the civilians, well, Japan would have stretched it even longer

    • @arminiuschatti2287
      @arminiuschatti2287 3 роки тому +8

      @Kinguin There are War Crimes in every war. Some will never be known.

    • @mrsullied
      @mrsullied 3 роки тому +38

      @@lolofblitz6468 with millions and millions dead all over the world I'm not sure anyone was a winner except on paper

    • @eburnsid3168
      @eburnsid3168 3 роки тому +14

      Katyn Forest

  • @rustedthorium3916
    @rustedthorium3916 5 років тому +1019

    War makes a hypocrite out of everyone.

    • @KampsKnows
      @KampsKnows 5 років тому +6

      Misanthropic Soldier there are many laws to war pretty sure.. chemical gas, nukes are pretty commonly big no no’s and if you do it prepare to get destroyed with prejudice

    • @surfingtothestars
      @surfingtothestars 5 років тому +14

      when men are literally killing each other as pure savages and something like this happens, then everyone is supposed to be "surprised and shocked". This is war!

    • @tequilamockingbird758
      @tequilamockingbird758 5 років тому +1

      Men do can do horrible things to each other in time of war.

    • @romeo-manny
      @romeo-manny 5 років тому +2

      War is pretty much an act hypocrisy on its own though

    • @Reactionary_Harkonnen
      @Reactionary_Harkonnen 5 років тому +2

      @Misanthropic Soldier do dwarfs have plenty of laws man. You can't have a knife that's more than two blades on or that's spirals around because A. is considered torture B. because the surgeon we'll have a super hard time saving a person's life.
      Nuclear weapons are against rules of War for obvious reasons.
      Chemical weapons are against the war.
      Biological weapons are against rules of War.
      Killing uniform soldiers that surrender is against the rules of War.
      Purposely targeting civilians is against the rules of War.
      Torturing enemies against the rules of War.
      Yeah dude shoes rules in war man that's been around since the Middle Ages.

  • @genoveus
    @genoveus 3 роки тому +10

    Patton: “We will show him no mercy. He will die.”
    Soldier: *Kill mode engaged
    Patton: Whoa whoa whoa!
    Soldiers: “This whole operation was your idea...”

  • @luigiranieri849
    @luigiranieri849 4 роки тому +367

    This is literally "Good soldiers follow orders." In a nutshell but they Aren't clone troopers.

    • @TheBearJew1309
      @TheBearJew1309 3 роки тому +9

      I mean that's called the 'Nuremburg Defense' for a reason

    • @Johndoe12145
      @Johndoe12145 3 роки тому +1

      the case of the first incident doesn't even remotely fit this bill, they were captured, and he was ordered to escort them, and proceeded to murder them in cold blood, the second one is basically exactly what Paton said to do on the other hand