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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Brad from @TrailRecon wanted more capability from his Power Wagon, so we stepped up to take his truck to the next level! This truck got a Carli Suspension Pintop Power Wagon system, which features 2.5" Carli tuned King shocks, and a whole list of supporting parts like a Carli track bar, Carli radius arms drops, and Carli steering stabilizer. We opted to retain the factory Power Wagon articu-link radius arms and factory disconnecting sway bar.
We also installed our CJC Built shock guards and intercooler guard to add some trail protection!
We also kept Brad's existing +27 offset AEV Salta wheels and 37" BFG AT tires.
#CJCoffroad #Carlisuspension #powerwagon
Huge thanks to all the guys at CJC! They do amazing work and just great folks... looking forward to gettin out on the trails with you all soon!
So cool to see you get your King/Carli set up at CJC! I'm currently waiting for my Carli Dominator from CJC. This shop is very unique in that they are very focused on getting you the right setup for your needs. Can't wait for the trail test on the Ram.
Now we need some 40s on this baby
Can't wait to get this!
What’s on this truck:
Carli Power Wagon Pintop System:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/2019-ram-2500-powerwagon-carli-suspension-systems/products/2019-2500-power-wagon-pin-top-system
Carli +2 Rear Coils:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/2019-ram-2500-carli-suspension-components/products/carli-suspension-2014-dodge-ram-1-lift-multi-rate-rear-coil-springs?variant=39326786289762
Carli Front Differential Guard:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/2019-ram-2500-carli-suspension-components/products/carli-suspension-2014-dodge-ram-diff-guard
Carli Low Mount Stabilizer:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/2019-ram-2500-carli-suspension-components/products/carli-suspension-2014-dodge-ram-low-mount-steering-stabilizer
CJC Rear Shock Guards:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/armor-tube-doors/products/cjc-off-road-14-2500-ram-rear-shock-guards
CJC Intercooler Guard:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/armor-tube-doors/products/cjc-built-2019-ram-2500-3500-intercooler-guard
AEV Katla Wheels:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/aev-wheels/products/aev-katla-17x8-5-wheel-8x6-5-ram-2500-3500-black
2 for the price of one. Awesome collaboration! I love trail recon and CJC. My future offroad truck will definitely be build by cjc and hopefully be tested out on the trail with Brad and Marco (cause we need that good trail cooking :) keep up the good work!!!!
Same... I follow them both!
Putting the PW Ram in good hands, nice Job.
Awesome Video...I follow TrailRecon also! I love the PW stuff lately! I should have my 2022 Power Wagon very soon...I ordered a Carli Kit (with Intercooler Guard, Shock Guards, and Diff Guard) for my PW a month or so ago, and I cant wait to see it! The Method Wheels 704HD look very nice! Thank you CJC!
I’ve been waiting for this video
That looks so badass! Can't wait until I can afford to get my hands on a Power Wagon with the Carli Suspension.
Love that truck! 👍🏻🇺🇸
Loved the shot of the power wagon going over those dips... That thing is a beast
Thankfully Brad had been able to put it through a lot more than drainage dips since it left our shop too!
I can’t wait to my power wagon to be outfitted with you guys!!!
Hi brad ..
I ordered the randy ellis lightbar from phenix .. it took 4 weeks and now it is there and has installed it after your video .. it worked great .. your videos also work
sources of supply shown and of course the new CARLI shock absorbers (order number etc.) thank you very much
That’d been cool to see you hit those dips prior to lift install for a comparison.
Great collaboration
Great new graphics. Nice job on the install.
That setup is so nice, that’s what I’m working towards.
Your youtube channel is about to BLOW UP!
Nice set up
Nice upgrades. Should do the Thuren track bar. And time to ditch the bumpers for some heavy duty high clearance bumpers.
Looks good guys!
You should do a little video showing what sort of articulation your getting with this set up on a power wagon!
We filmed the before and need to do the after! Working on it!
I’m not a big fan of the white but this is definitely nice
Who reads and pays attention to that door sticker? Haha I've been looked at in my half ton more than once with loads that far exceed the payload. I've never been stopped.
No one is looking at you unless something bad happens.
Very cool!!!
The first thing I did on my Ram 1500 - add the Carli - huge difference both on and off-road. I know...upgrade to the 2500...
Here is the brand question - F350 or RAM 3500 as a baseline build? Is it more than brand loyalty if we ignore cosmetics?
Is it me or does Brad’s PW look super tall! It’s only a 3.25” lift! It looks bigger than the Cummins 2500s with the same/similar system lol. That thing is a beautiful beast can’t wait to see more content on it as well as collab vids with TR 😎
It looks extra tall since it’s on the +2 coils with no weight in the bed, and because the 37” BFG tires actually measure out to barely taller than a 35!
@@CJCOffRoad oh yes I hate how BFG tires do that. I do prefer extra wheelwell space though to show off the sweet suspension!
that carli peek-a-boo @ 7:43
Nice collaboration. I follow both channels and I’m hoping to get my 2020 F250 diesel/tremor over to CJC in the near future.
Whatup! I live in SoCal! How much do you charge for the install of a suspension lift for 2021 Ram 2500 power wagon?? I’m about to put 37” tires on it! I like TrailRecons lift!
Brad REALLY wanted “a little more tire”! Those trucks missed leg day at the gym.
CODY I LIKE THAT.... I WILL BECOMEING OUT THERE AT SOME POINT TO GET THE SAME THING DONE TO MY POWER WAGON .... FROM MINNESOTA SO MAY BE A MIN OR TO...
Need 6months out appointment
@@howellsgym5563 YEP PERFICT ...NEXT FALL..YEP YEP..
I had no idea Toby Flenderson started working for CJC after he left his job at The Office.
The exact setup I'm working on now. how much more payload does that 2" coil give over stock pintop payload?
Carli doesn’t post an exact number to discourage overloading, but it’s north of 2k pounds.
I am stoked to see youtubers that do truck or truck giveaways put Carli suspension on. Every youtuber that builds trucks for giveaways, i tell them they really need to be putting Carli suspensions on, not those cheap lifts.
They problem is most of those giveaways are trying to make a buck, so it's easier to do that with a China sourced spacer! We've worked with Durrtymax Jack in the past however to do Carli systems on their giveaway trucks!
Did you guys get a proper label to add to the truck with the new max payload listed? Specifically for Insurance purposes if an accident we’re to occur, overloading of the truck is something that would be considered
There is no way to legally change or alter the truck's GVWR. These rear coils help the truck operate better and more conformably within its capacity range, but do not change the GVWR as other factors like the frame, axles etc are still determining the truck's max payload. It is the owner's responsibility to operate the vehicle within its limits.
Semper Fi! So I have a 2020 PW and went with the Pure Performance Kit. I’m not real happy with it to be honest, the steering is shitty over bumps and the one thing that drives me nuts is the front coils sagged after awhile probably from the weight of the winch, so I rub when I’m turning with 37’s when I didn’t before. I’m curious to see if yours sags in the front as well.
We're happy to help! You'll always need to trim a little with 37s, but these coils sit true to claimed height for years. Shoot us an email and we can help out with your truck: sales@cjcoffroad.com
How high is this from ground to top fender
Just so we are all clear does the plus 2 coil put any rake back into the truck over the plus 1? I have the plus 1” soft ride coil in my 2018 and the sag with a trailer is so bad I want to go back to stock height. I get tired of switching the timbrens in and out. (1st world problems I know:))
The +2 coil uses a higher spring rate, which results in 2” of lift unloaded compared to the 1” with the normal Carli coils. Even though the spring rate is higher, ride is still significantly better than stock.
@@CJCOffRoad so it will result in 1” of rake unloaded?
With the higher rate springs in the rear and an empty bed, are you seeing similar to factory rake in the rear end?
Yeah it ends up being 1-2" rear high with nothing in the bed.
I see that you left yours as well and was wandering why leave the stock spare tire in? Seams like dead weight and (not sure) if you can use it still being that you went oversized with what your driving on. Seams like you would gain a little more weight in the bed with that tire not being under there, but again my thought was being two conplete different sizes you couldn't use the spare to save the gears, any thoughts?
Since the front diff on these trucks is open, you can still use a smaller spare in a pinch. Nothing bigger than the factory spare fits in the factory location, so it makes sense to keep it!
@@CJCOffRoad Can you still use 4H or 4L with the smaller spare?
Ive been wanting to put a Fourwheel popup slide in on my 2017 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel 5.5 bed. Sounds like this would be too much weight for my platform even with your Carli 2+ setup
Yes! That would vastly exceed the capacity of that platform!
Is it possible to just swap the coils and not the rest of the suspension to get a better ride when loaded on the PW?
Unfortunately no since the Carli coils add too much suspension drop and travel for the factory parts to keep up!
total cost? to recreate using a stock PW ?
Maybe I missed them saying it is this truck on 35s or 37s?
This truck is on a BFG all terrain 37, but since BFGs run so small, they actually measure out to a hair over 35"
Is there way of making a 2020 F350 Powerstroke CCLB ride a little better on road, across washboard and rutted fire lanes without lifting it 3.5" or losing towing performance? TIA
We can absolutely improve ride, but some height increase is needed since a huge part of the ride quality issue is lack of up travel from ride height. With a Carli system we're able to double the front suspension travel with only 3.5" of height increase over stock.
@@CJCOffRoad Thanks for the feed back gang.
Hey guys, I recently got a commuter kit installed on my 3500 2021 and i'm running the same ko2 tires as this truck.
My truck is now pulling to the right a bit.. How many psi do you have in your carli steering stabilizer to work with these tires?
Any special alignment specs or just oem specs?
Thanks!
With this tire we recommend 80 PSI in the stabilizer. Caster should be around three degrees, and toe should be at about 1/16 of an inch!
So no high mount stabilizer is needed with these tires then? Thanks for the info, appreciated it
Just wish I had $10k to throw at my Super Duty to make it ride nice 🙂
nice job, ...if you could just get a PW with a Cummins.
My 3500 would have thrown you onto the dash over those empty lol but load her down and it's a dodge Cadillac
Higher payload? Legal change? Tell me more, definitely need more payload for my PW with my family of 5 and the pup pulling a TT!
Updated: finished the video and you touched on my above inquiry. Is there a way to get the sticker changed? If so I bet that’s a high price tag.
Guess I’ll be upgrading to a 3500, love my PW though.
There is no way, since the frame, axles, hubs etc etc would all need to be changed. It’s important to be realistic with your goals, and plan your setup accordingly!
I noticed that the caril fabricated raduis arms were not part of the package installed. Could that have made a difference in making the truck better absorb pot holes etc or even make it ride significantly better?
I don't think you can put those in the power wagon. If I remember right.
The Carli bar will work on the PW, but the PW already has special radius arms with like a double hinge that articulates more than the standard 2500. So the Carli arms aren’t really needed.
The factory Power Wagon arms feature an extra joint for added articulation, which makes them absolutely worth keeping if you enjoy low speed crawling. However that joint does increase front end wander/vagueness in the steering at highway speed and frequently fails/tears with high speed off road driving, so there’s an application for both the factory arms and Carli arms on these trucks depending on how you use them. Since Brad has no plans to smash through whoops in his truck, the factory arms made sense!
@@CJCOffRoad how about the 2500 Cummins HD, do you think the carli radius arms is a must with pintop package? And can it be done later down the road since lead times are 6 months last time I checked.
@@ahmadm.3296 I believe the height of the kit determines if the radius arm drop brackets are needed, but have not heard of a case where the replacement arms would be necessary. With the drop brackets installed, the factory arms are more exposed and look "tinny," cheap, or thin (I.M.O.), and I imagine aesthetics have a lot more to do with the installation of them than any benefits to rigidity or stiffness etc
Does this kit improve payload and towing capacity?
It does, but remember that you still can't exceed your GVWR!
Can you give us a ballpark figure for that job. Does this system work on the 2010 PW?
Thank you
We have specific systems for those trucks. Here's a link to see parts pricing and options: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/10-13-carli-systems
I installed an rear airlift bags with cradles for weight in on my 17 PW. With this exact same set up work for me? If so I’d like to order please.
Yes, although you’ll need Daystar cradles to go with those bags to maintain travel.
@@CJCOffRoad I currently have Daystars installed.
@@CJCOffRoad can you please send a link as to the equivalent as this exact same kit bit for my 2017 please. Thank you from Hawaii! I can't wait to see what the cost to ship this kit will be.....
Have you guys done anything with an F450?
Absolutely! We offer a whole suspension line for them! www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/f450-suspension-systems
@@CJCOffRoad which would you suggest for someone not looking to loose and towing capability, but trying to get the best ride quality possible?
Now all you need are some 22” rims!!! Jk jk screw those people
Why do all trucks that you guys do sit high in the front? Is that a cali thing? I’ve never met anyone who actually wants that look? How do you haul anything if your already high in front as any weight in the back would make it look horrible and handle even worse with the nose high like that..
This truck is two inches rear high in the video.
Too bad a kit doesn't ACTUALLY increase your payload. Go over the weight on the sticker and get in a wreck. Guess who is at fault....smh
We discuss it in the video, but there's no way to legally increase the GVWR on a vehicle. If you need more than the PW offers, it's time to step up to a 3500.
Why does EVERY UA-cam video have the same shit background music.......
No availability time to install regular pee on customer that has been loyal previous customer before trailrecon jeep guy. All about the views.
This job was booked on March 5th and installed on June 25. Brad waited just like every other customer!
Thanks, got my complete pintop with all the extras from 8 Lug Truck Gear in 2 weeks 👍🏼