I think so long as dodge continues to not make the same mistakes with the Hornet like they did with the Dart, it could 100% be a mainstay in the lineup for the next 10+ years.
I actually wish the opposite and that dodge would stick with a fuel-efficient sedan instead of coming up with a crossover that isn't particularly great at anything. I would totally buy another designed Dart if they learned from their mistakes.
The GT are the best ones to buy because it’s 2.0 liters and 268 HP and if you have the time and the money you can modified it with engine tuner and upgrade the turbo many modifications you could do with the GT
This vehicle is a nice package, but because its basically an Alfa Romeo I dont think I could buy one because I'd be constantly worried about it falling apart.
Cars these days are just an assembly of globally available parts. Alpha doesn’t make the car in-house. They p ly assemble and sell it. Just like A Jag is an assembly of parts; brembo, borg-Warner, BMW I6. Whatever. Stop identifying brand with quality.
@@petercharron3268but some manufacturers like the Japanese actually give quality parts to their assemble lines , not like the trash you're speaking of especially with alfa lol
@johnbeckham1483 who said that ? The car hasn't even been out long enough to determine that and after seeing so many test drive reviews and it lighting it up like a Christmas tree , I'll save my money lol
MY wife is annoyed every time I say the Hornet is related to her Maserati Levante. The reviewers remarks about its driving characteristics is so like her Maserati. Aggressive, nervous and touchy. I love the Hornet.
If you're going to keep mentioning Alfa Romeo at least get the damn car right. This car is the Tonale not the Stelvio. Who really cares about a HUD. I do not. Get over it.
HUD display. what about it? Sounds like a complaint when mentioning it's absence. How about mentioning how many hundreds of dollars you save on a non HUD windshield when it comes to replacing it. If you live any where near snow country and all the sand used on most highways in most states a pitted windshield is a common maintenance issue.
How did we ever get along with a car that had none of the technologies available today? Very well, I'd say. For a sporty car I want one with a powerful 4-banger mated to a 6-speed manual transmission. I want disc brakes, fully independent suspensions, comfortable seats with great support, just enough gages like a tach, speedo, temp and an array of idiot lights. That's all.
I tried one. No power seats!! Difficult to get in and out of without hitting your head. Unless you are a tall person and don't need to adjust the seat to get in and out every time. The hatch, because of the long sleek look, I couldn't reach up to close it without standing on my tippy toes. And no power buttons either. The 3 head rest on the back seats - one can't see out the rearview mirror. The final strqw - I opened the back door and that wing off the window/door frame knocked me in the face and knocked my glasses right off. I loved the power. The seats are comfortable. It's a stylish car but not for me. Sorry Dodge. :(
I have a GT Plus. Who needs a HUD when you can't possibly miss the Bold mph in the middle of the screen? Also, why criticize it for the size of the backseat? Look elsewhere if you need a bigger backseat! Are you an NBA player? Then don't buy it! I wanted a sporty car that fits easily in my garage. I will admit that the touchscreen has small icons and overall is very complicated. But once I get everything set for my likes I won't need to worry about it.
Don't touch my Dart! I personally own a 2014 Dodge Dart SXT that I bought used back in 2017 & I am still enjoying my Dart as it has been very dependable & reliable!
Fix it again TONY. Please. But cars today are not so much manufactured in house, but assembled everywhere from common parts; brembo brakes, borg-Warner injectors, Ford injected V6 or BMW I6. There’s no Tony.
I'm a Mopar or No car guy. But this vehicle will be a flop just like the Dodge Caliber. I had their last compact sports car, the SRT4. That was the last exciting compact car that they made. This car will be a computer nightmare.
It is a lemon. Dodge is not a tech company and the entire car is tech support dependent. My Family's hornet is at the dealership waiting for 'special' battery replacement for 2+ months. Lemon laws starting to become relevant.
Absolutely dislike my hornet crash lights stay on whenever it's foggy or raining or anything goes on outside they dony know y they said it needed update y it is brand new not happy at all with it will never own another one
@@dnice362 I ordered base GT with standard AWD, tech pack, and all weather package. Sticker is 34,330 dealer cost to me is 32,209. Ordered from Granger Motors in Iowa. You can find good deals if you special order
I’m a huge Mazda fanboy but this is a step above the CX30 for 2K less. The CX3 is slower, has a lower cost suspenion setup, slower steering rack, lower quality interior, and worse tech. This car is a fantastic bargain. The interior is very nice on these cars for a 30k price point.
@@jjchockey The CX-30 has a faster 0-60 time, pinpoint steering, and a much more quality interior than the Dodge. Don't know where you're getting your info from. Plus, this Dodge will see more of the service department than the Mazda will.
@@richardkrawczyk5606 it’s an Alfa Romeo not a dodge. The interior quality is quite good for this price point. The steering ratio is a lot quicker and it has more sophisticated dampers and suspenion design.
You live in the past time...I don't think You had an Alfa in your whole live, but I invite You to Buy a VAG car o Mercedes 🤣 You Will know what is an unreliable car...
@@mixedbyfiatcat We on a racetrack? Lol what you think the hornet is? Not fast, Subaru has incredible reliability and safety and AWD is a far superior car that hornet better get out of here with fwd costing 30k base. The screen on the Subaru is nice, it’s been updated
This vehicle is going to be a hoagie. Techs are going to be feeding their family for years fixing these things. A turbo 4cyl with a lot of power from……DODGE.😂
It's hard to comprehend how the "Alfa-ness" of this car's interior could be perceived as a negative. Dodge is a GARBAGE brand that reeks of extreme cost-cutting everywhere you look & touch. No matter how much you spend, there's no escaping the assortment of equally nasty, low-rent plastics that almost seem designed to punish & humiliate owners for poor judgment. 🤣 The more legitimate concern here is the risk of Alfa diluting their brand because of the "Dodge-ness" of the Tonale. 🫤
The chassis feels aggressive, because it's an Alfa Romeo.
$30K for this high performance AWD car and you're complaining about no HUD?!?
I think so long as dodge continues to not make the same mistakes with the Hornet like they did with the Dart, it could 100% be a mainstay in the lineup for the next 10+ years.
i could see it!
I actually wish the opposite and that dodge would stick with a fuel-efficient sedan instead of coming up with a crossover that isn't particularly great at anything. I would totally buy another designed Dart if they learned from their mistakes.
I love my 2014 Dodge Dart SXT as it has been a very reliable car indeed!
Hardly…!
This will be a sales failure just like the Dart.
You lost me at the multiple mentions of HUD. PuhLEASE.
That and the young fella can't come up with enough muscle to open the tailgate on his own. 😢 boo hoo
400 pounds extra weight for the hybrid, no thanks. All that extra pork will just make it feel like a big turd.
Who gives a damn about the heads up display?
@@paul5683 It does not feel like a big turd. It hugs the road better than the GT. It has a faster 0-60 time than the GT.
Hornets are not selling well, local dealer is giving 5k, Dodge is kicking in 7500. Looks like you can get a pretty good deal right now.
The GT are the best ones to buy because it’s 2.0 liters and 268 HP and if you have the time and the money you can modified it with engine tuner and upgrade the turbo many modifications you could do with the GT
Or you could buy a camry
You can modify the motor in the RT as well.
It would be hard for me to care LESS about having a HUD. Big deal.
THE NEW DODGE HORNET IS A EXCELLENT SUV And WELL SELL VERY WELL
I want ittttttt
Not selling atm
😂 enjoy your low qualityness
What is low quality ?@@cormaro13
Didn’t age well
This vehicle is a nice package, but because its basically an Alfa Romeo I dont think I could buy one because I'd be constantly worried about it falling apart.
Cars these days are just an assembly of globally available parts. Alpha doesn’t make the car in-house. They p ly assemble and sell it. Just like A Jag is an assembly of parts; brembo, borg-Warner, BMW I6. Whatever. Stop identifying brand with quality.
@@petercharron3268but some manufacturers like the Japanese actually give quality parts to their assemble lines , not like the trash you're speaking of especially with alfa lol
You will be just fine in the Dodge Hornet! Don't worry about its RELIABILITY as it is well engineered indeed!
@johnbeckham1483 who said that ? The car hasn't even been out long enough to determine that and after seeing so many test drive reviews and it lighting it up like a Christmas tree , I'll save my money lol
You don’t have to constantly worry about it falling apart because it’s an Alfa. You can constantly worry about it falling apart because it’s a Dodge!
Alfa Romeo Tonale, not Stelvio. It's a different platform.
I was going to get a hornet but i went with a jeep cherokee trail hawk instead.
MY wife is annoyed every time I say the Hornet is related to her Maserati Levante. The reviewers remarks about its driving characteristics is so like her Maserati. Aggressive, nervous and touchy. I love the Hornet.
It’s more a compliment to the hornet than a ding on the levante
Im loving mine truly the sport is like a Batman button it takes off when you need it most. ❤
If you're going to keep mentioning Alfa Romeo at least get the damn car right. This car is the Tonale not the Stelvio. Who really cares about a HUD. I do not. Get over it.
The GT is $26K kinda considering it. How would it handle in the snow
HUD display. what about it? Sounds like a complaint when mentioning it's absence. How about mentioning how many hundreds of dollars you save on a non HUD windshield when it comes to replacing it. If you live any where near snow country and all the sand used on most highways in most states a pitted windshield is a common maintenance issue.
To the auto technician who shoved the lift point covers in the trunk storage, thanks for the idea
I know you think that this is a dodge, but it is a Alpha Romeo!
OK. Thanks......
@Jon Richards I'm not kidding, you are selling an alpha Romeo. Should you not tell people the truth about things Jon?
*alfa romeo
@@77Arbiter77 thanks for the spelling. Big fingers and haste make for bad spelling. You are precious.
How did we ever get along with a car that had none of the technologies available today? Very well, I'd say. For a sporty car I want one with a powerful 4-banger mated to a 6-speed manual transmission. I want disc brakes, fully independent suspensions, comfortable seats with great support, just enough gages like a tach, speedo, temp and an array of idiot lights. That's all.
The performance stats sound nice, but I would be a little concerned about the reliability of a Dodge/Fiat 4 cylinder turbo.
If it is then I would say it’s an amazing deal
I never use the head up display on my Tahoe. Too distracting having that shining on my windshield
what's a head up display?
I tried one. No power seats!! Difficult to get in and out of without hitting your head. Unless you are a tall person and don't need to adjust the seat to get in and out every time. The hatch, because of the long sleek look, I couldn't reach up to close it without standing on my tippy toes. And no power buttons either. The 3 head rest on the back seats - one can't see out the rearview mirror. The final strqw - I opened the back door and that wing off the window/door frame knocked me in the face and knocked my glasses right off.
I loved the power. The seats are comfortable. It's a stylish car but not for me. Sorry Dodge. :(
I think its a cool looking car. But I hear they are not selling….are they priced to high?
I have a GT Plus. Who needs a HUD when you can't possibly miss the Bold mph in the middle of the screen? Also, why criticize it for the size of the backseat? Look elsewhere if you need a bigger backseat! Are you an NBA player? Then don't buy it! I wanted a sporty car that fits easily in my garage. I will admit that the touchscreen has small icons and overall is very complicated. But once I get everything set for my likes I won't need to worry about it.
It seems that 3 adults wouldn't feel so comfortable sitting in the back seat. This car has plenty horsepower to be wider and have a longer wheelbase.
right, the rear seat is tight
They make a bigger version if you want one. Look at the Alfa Romeo Stelvio.
don't need HUD.
HUD is the dumbbest thing ever. So irritating having stuff blocking your field of vision
Wondering who would work on those engines- alpha dealers?
It’s a car, not a spaceship. Any shop can work on it.
@@mixedbyfiatcat Not any shops around me :)
That's "Alfa".
@@Loft54 Any Dodge/Chrysler dealership should be able to work on it!
Jeep Compass engine and transmission.
Been around a few years.
Y is everybody tripping on the hornet it’s pretty dope
It will cure all disease...still no HUD.
#1 thing it sits 1 1/2 inches to high
The RT is 1 1/2 inches lower than the GT. Its also 400 lbs heavier than the GT.
Because the Dodge Dart was so chock full of quality, they cancelled it...... so let's make it a lifted blobcar.
Don't touch my Dart! I personally own a 2014 Dodge Dart SXT that I bought used back in 2017 & I am still enjoying my Dart as it has been very dependable & reliable!
Man you can’t throw no 12s in the back of that mf. I guess 8s or shadow boxes are gone have to be the move
It doesn't need any extra audio. I have the RT Plus with the Harman Kardon premium sound system and it is fantastic
The r/t phev should achieve 72 mpg.....
That's bullshit, adding 400 pounds is not going to give you higher gas mileage.
@@paul5683yes it does,if you can drive 40-50 miles on electric you could
One does NOT say 'best' and 'Dodge Hornet' in the same breath.
FIX IT AGAIN TED (Fiat). 😂
Alfa Romeo not Fiat
Fix it again TONY. Please. But cars today are not so much manufactured in house, but assembled everywhere from common parts; brembo brakes, borg-Warner injectors, Ford injected V6 or BMW I6. There’s no Tony.
@@petercharron3268 You need to stop......how many times are you going to type the same thing over and over again
I'm a Mopar or No car guy.
But this vehicle will be a flop just like the Dodge Caliber.
I had their last compact sports car, the SRT4. That was the last exciting compact car that they made.
This car will be a computer nightmare.
This junk is not even a mopar. Dodge can’t even keep its head above water. It’s a damn fiat
No heads up display. That's not a serious game changer.
pretty sure they wanted a cheaper vehicle. if you want a cheap car you getting less options ...
It is very tight in the back seats
Useless for Uber
No its really not. A 6' man can sit back there no problem
It is a lemon. Dodge is not a tech company and the entire car is tech support dependent. My Family's hornet is at the dealership waiting for 'special' battery replacement for 2+ months. Lemon laws starting to become relevant.
Dodge didn't make the Hornet so if you are going to complain at least get your information right.
@@maximus11400 So lemon laws do not apply?? It's still a POS. Just because another company wants to adopt badges doesn't make it a POS.
Oh no, missing a heads up display, trash the entire line, now
“This is Alfa not necessary a bad thing “ you have officially ruin your trust against car-nuts
lol true car nuts will know what I meant
@@dwnshft I have owned 5 Alfas and can feel that you are not a true car nut
@@doddsalfa ok 👌
Absolutely dislike my hornet crash lights stay on whenever it's foggy or raining or anything goes on outside they dony know y they said it needed update y it is brand new not happy at all with it will never own another one
No way with awd this is under 30k
All Hornets have awd....A $35,000 hornet awd is fully equipped nicely
Go price one out....Awd at this price point is why I'm buying one
@@philipwood8776 no they don’t, check again, AWD and fully equipped it will closer to 45k. Where are you getting your information from
@@dnice362 I ordered base GT with standard AWD, tech pack, and all weather package. Sticker is 34,330 dealer cost to me is 32,209. Ordered from Granger Motors in Iowa. You can find good deals if you special order
@@jc10032 congrats!
enough with the heads up display.
What a strange critique
WRX is 271 hp
And? It’s a sedan. Not a cuv.
it also breaks before 50k
My Hornet is 288 HP
Dart 2.0
Dude should complain about no paddle shifters, not a HUD. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🙄🙄🤦♂️🤦♂️
Mine has paddle shifters
Not sure I would buy a alpha Romeo based car 😢😢😢
It’s Alfa not Alpha. Still living in moms basement? 😂
Are you Dodge guys so out of touch that you don't know how to spell "Alfa"? That company has only been around for 112 years now.
And you obviously have never driven a current Alfa Giulia or Stelvio or you wouldn't be making that comment.
@@rlsedition haha-why don't you get a life--no big deal. you have nothing else to do? you must be an unemployed car dealer :)
Why they are awesome and match well with Dodge! They aren't fix it again Tony cars!
For the price it’s horrible 😭😭🤣🤣
Just because you're poor doesn't make it horrible. My Hornet was 49k....
This is still a dodge ...not a great record but this one looks good , great power ...but is is a dodge.
It's only a Dodge because they put their badge on it. It is an Alfa Romeo
A turbo CX-30 beat this in power, handling, ground clearance, and quality for around the same price.
I’m a huge Mazda fanboy but this is a step above the CX30 for 2K less. The CX3 is slower, has a lower cost suspenion setup, slower steering rack, lower quality interior, and worse tech. This car is a fantastic bargain. The interior is very nice on these cars for a 30k price point.
@@jjchockey The CX-30 has a faster 0-60 time, pinpoint steering, and a much more quality interior than the Dodge. Don't know where you're getting your info from. Plus, this Dodge will see more of the service department than the Mazda will.
@@richardkrawczyk5606 it’s an Alfa Romeo not a dodge. The interior quality is quite good for this price point. The steering ratio is a lot quicker and it has more sophisticated dampers and suspenion design.
@@jjchockey exactly why you’d want to avoid it lol
@@richardkrawczyk5606 The Dodge is half a second faster in timed runs 0-60 6.1 for the Hornet vs 6.6 for the CX30. The quality is great in mine.
So basically this is a 2023 dodge caliber srt4.
Not at all; it's an Alfa Romeo.
If that is what you see, then you really need to get some glasses.
It's basically a jeep compass. Didn't you hear him at the beginning?
@@paul5683 No, Paul, the Hornet is not a Jeep Compass, but it is an Alfa Romeo Tonale.
$40 + thousand what a joke! This is a scam mobile and not worth 20 G!
Worst things: Built in the ALFA plant in Italy. FIAT and ALFA cars have the worst reliability and quality records in the industry. Think I'll pass.
Have you owned one recently?
You live in the past time...I don't think You had an Alfa in your whole live, but I invite You to Buy a VAG car o Mercedes 🤣 You Will know what is an unreliable car...
@@davepaoletti4614don't have to own one when all the idiots around u keep buying it and ending up in the service bay 😂
You can't afford an Alfa so how the hell do you know
Alfa has a 4.5 rating do your research
why is your face. block by symbols??
For the like and subscribe 🤪🫠
Being branded a Dodge should be enough to tell anyone not to buy this overpriced pile of junk. Get a Toyota or Lexus people.
You’re loser u don’t understand car u so loser
I believe a crosstrek fully loaded with AWD is 28k that is a great deal not this
Cross trek is slow as hell though. 😆 plus interior wise. Subaru has never made nice interior. It’s like a dead seal.
@@mixedbyfiatcat We on a racetrack? Lol what you think the hornet is? Not fast, Subaru has incredible reliability and safety and AWD is a far superior car that hornet better get out of here with fwd costing 30k base. The screen on the Subaru is nice, it’s been updated
@@mixedbyfiatcat i dont think interior is that bad in Cross trek but slow as hell is right
Cross trek is hideous and not as nice
@@philipwood8776 not as nice no but also not hideous but for the money it’s excellent
Who cares about a hud lol
Hear me out:
FBO
Aggressive Tune
Wide body kit
Air suspension
And service bay 😂
Fiat🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But it’s a Dodge. Who wants to buy a Dodge if you can avoid it ?
😂
Sir, the boring car selection is over there. 👉
I guess you've been hiding since the 1950's! Dodge has built a lot of really awesome and reliable cars!
@@lisam4503 Its all relative. Ask an Acura or a Toyota owner, and he may not share your definition of reliability...
@@robertl.6919 There's more to cars than reliability, like driving fun.
Baaad quality👎👎
downgrade dodge
This vehicle is going to be a hoagie. Techs are going to be feeding their family for years fixing these things. A turbo 4cyl with a lot of power from……DODGE.😂
Say you designed a crappy car without saying you designed a crappy car.
It’s trash 🗑️
Won’t sell very many. Has nothing to do with dodge..
Cant hide the Alfa? I wouldn't know what a Alfa interior is like and I would have to say the majority of people wont lol.
Worst thing: It's a Chrysler product. Best thing: You DON'T have to buy one.
lol i chuckled at this
How about a Buick Envista?
The car is crap dodge pulled a bait and switch that's not the car they showed and promised at the auto show
It's hard to comprehend how the "Alfa-ness" of this car's interior could be perceived as a negative. Dodge is a GARBAGE brand that reeks of extreme cost-cutting everywhere you look & touch. No matter how much you spend, there's no escaping the assortment of equally nasty, low-rent plastics that almost seem designed to punish & humiliate owners for poor judgment. 🤣
The more legitimate concern here is the risk of Alfa diluting their brand because of the "Dodge-ness" of the Tonale. 🫤