Porsche GT3 First Wash & Drive
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- We compare the differences and similarities between 3 Porsche 991.2 GT3's that were built and delivered within 2 weeks of each other from the factory. Why is one paint job better than another? Answer: I don't know. They each had pluses and minuses...so no clear winner. But the real question is why are there differences? If you have an idea why, leave a comment below. We also discuss a few tips for cleaning interior glass, applying decals, removing headlights, and how to inspect your job before delivery. Hope you enjoy! -L
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Hey guys, interested to hear your thoughts on why cars built as the same time (within a few days/week) of each other would have these variances in overall finish quality. The paint thickness and coverage was almost exactly the same on all 3 cars, but wonder why the finish or refinement was unique to each color. I hope one day I get to go to the factory and see if for myself. This "finishing" inconsistency is common amongst most brands and most likely why the cars are detailed at the dealership before the customers picks it up. Thought it would be fun to compare 3 "non-detailed" paint jobs, same car, same (appox) build time, and delivery date. Best paint was green. Best wing was blue. Best overall paint + wing was white. Hope you enjoy the episode as much as I do working on these cars. AMAZING!
take one part human error, one part time deadlines, combined with quality control's acceptable variances and staff hours limits and i'd think we get little differences in each and still not a prefect product. I'd imagine that every automaker would like to spend the time to make these prefect but unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you see it) it's just not feasible.
I work in the manufacturing industry and can say with certainty that not all assembly lines are created equal. To elaborate more on this statement, personnel, equipment and, sometimes, even process will vary. No two detailers will polish the exact same to give an analogy.
I don't think the factory is to blame for the differences you found. It can be really difficult to isolate these defects when there are so many variables involved. Their entire supply chain has to be on the same page as far as handling and that is usually the most difficult thing to accomplish. It is impressive that the paint thickness is that close on all three cars within a tenth of a mil. When the car leaves the factory, it's usually mishandled by freight and LTL shipping companies, or dealers. They are usually not trained on special handling practices, or they are simply in a rush. On a car this expensive, they should just use a protective film prior to leaving the factory.
I've worked at a Porsche dealer in Germany for a year, only the most expensive (GT3 RS, 911 R...) models arrive with a full cover on because the don't have to travel far from the factory to the dealer, and they don't sit around for long because of the small distance. I'm now working at a Volkswagen dealer in Germany, and some of the new models (Tiguan Allspace) get built in Mexico. Because of the huge distance and the long time they take to get here they all have a comlete cover on them.
I think the specific differences on these cars came from different Guys doing the refinement and or final inspection. Or maybe the dealer did interfere with the paint finish even though they didn't detail it. (The likes of "Oh here's a fingerprint, let's remove that with some spray wax") We used to do that alot at the Porsche dealer.
Different workers, different shifts, different experience levels, fatigue issues, time constraints, machine tolerances get sloppy where operations are automated, dust (every factory has dust problems), etc. etc. -- all play a part in quality control issues at factories.
This guy takes the wheel to a whole different level.
J-DAWG!
AINT NO WAY
the gray with yellow is an amazing combo
It's chalk white & yeah it's looks awesome
I am never was & never will be it’s grey
craze09 chalk white
@@Bruce6001 actually the color name is Crayon
@@javieralfocea1014 it’s chalk white
The end was inspiring. I hope you get a gt3
Legend has it that Larry is still staring at that GT3 badge to this day.
lmfao
That's funny.
You folks think it is funny. It is actually quite mentally painful on all the thought and worry that goes into it.
@@spooler7828 it's just banter
He followed the customer home just to make sure.
pretty sure those 3 marks you found were from the factory tooling.
usually suction cups to grab/install parts
the suction cups are rarely cleaned off
-Aerospace worker
3rd Gen Guy that makes sense.
Thats the first thing I thought of, especially seeing where they were all placed
The guy dancing in the backround at 8:38 is gold😂
The chalk white one is my favorite, although all three were gorgeous. Awesome job Larry, as usual.
Favorite deteailer by far. Thank you for all the videos and hard work, and as a fellow GT3 dreamer, I hope you'll own one soon!
Ronnie Myers can i get my gt2 rs also?
That is insane. I felt the paint would come better from factory. Great job at explaining and providing awesome content. Need to look at my paint a little closer now lol.
The OEM only makes the paint acceptable on a macro level. To satisfy a detailing nut's OCD (I'm included in this), further refinement is required.
Larry is an inspiration / role model, the amount of hard work he puts on each project is astonishing. Will use his idea of "cars for the future wall" to help me concentrate on achieving my dreams. Great work and keep it up!!
Love these "long" vids! Keep them coming!
I’m very surprised how many defects and swirls were in the paint from factory. I would have expected perfection given how much these cars cost.
I was thinking the same. I guess to some factory workers, it's just another car.
@@pwrshots It is easy to say this when you're not in an actual factory. You have to consider that they are probably seeing 2 cars every minute pass through their process. This means you will likely have 10+ people inspecting the car in various locations and if one has considerable defects that may mean they rush to catch up on the next.
@@richardschmidt2761 granted but these are not just some cheap daily driver you are buying. let's be honest, they figure it will be part of dealer prep.On the upside, It's great for AMMONYC's business. :)
Maybe from the delivery? People who see a an exotic car for everyone to touch mostly touch on the wing maybe thats where the defects are coming from
Sure, but look at the time it took for just these three cars. That desired perfection would likely tack on an extra $5k to $10k for something the average car enthusiast can't even appreciate. Most aren't going to be as educated in the type of detailing a guy like Larry is capable of, so they just won't see the value. They may look for scratches and swirls, and that's about it. So they won't see why the car could cost up to $10k more for what they perceived to be a flawless finish to begin with.
The obssesive amount of detail this guy goes into on these videos is astounding. Much respect!
This is probably one of my favourite videos, as this car is also my dream car. I watched the entire thing, you were thorough and covered a lot of detail. It was cool your buddy let you drive the car. Also thank you for always responding to my quick questions by email over the years. You've never become "too big" to help the little guys.
Larry your videos are super enjoyable not only because you are a genuine craftsman but because your focus and humility come through in each video. I always walk away thinking Larry seems like a great guy.
I love that Larry uses the same type of towel for almost everything.. so many people are using 8 dollar fluffy edgeless towels. Claiming the edges scratch paint etc. this guy works on the nicest cars in the world and keeps it simple.
Larry, you deserve your success! You possess top notch work ethic, conscientiousness, thoroughness and mad attention to detail. Most of all, you never forget what it's like to be a customer and that kind of empathy is what true 'customer service' is all about. Well done, mate!
I'm not a car enthusiast but maybe I'm a "beautiful, shiny and clean" enthusiast! I just love the content, knowledge, expertise and perfection of detail you give! It's so satisfying and one day when I get my dream car, I might find it watching your channel, then I'll know what to do to keep it in great condition!!! You're so inspirational in the sense that you inspire perfection for everything!
What a professional job and video, I truly enjoy watching your work, IMMACULATE!
I've cleaned airplanes for about two years now, and the subtle things you pick up from these videos are super helpful and interesting. The quality of work is astounding.
Who the hell has given this video a thumbs down?!?! Once again Larry you soothed my OCD, the gt3's looked insane, how was the drive? #AMMO
Robert Chalmers Porsche Management, because they've been exposed for selling crappy paint
Corvette fanboys at it again :)
Its probably the clown that bashes Larry and his company and does cheap vs. expensive videos on UA-cam, a real winner he is and if your reading this, crawl back under the rock in which you came from and stay there, THANK YOU!
Robert Chalmers I suspect the thumbs down came for a Ford owner that as we all know, could not possibly understand the underlying grace of a GTS3 lol
People who think a $25 automatic car wash is all a car truly needs would give a thumbs down. Granted, it's all my 18 year old car needs, but if I ever came into the money for cars like this, Larry would definitely be my first stop to have him inspect the cars before purchase and detail them afterwards.
This channel, Chris Fix and Scotty Kilmer, the three greatest automotive channels on the net. I know you do high end cars and all and I enjoy every single video ( I know you did your Subaru once). I would love to see you surprise a regular everyday Joe with a paint restoration for their daily driven Corolla, Civic etc. Regardless, keep up the great work.
With that work ethic and ethics in general you’ll have the GT3 in no time.
You got a sub and like from me. :)
Fascinating stuff. Could I suggest you get with Porsche of America and use this as an opportunity to go shoot a series in the 911 factory on paint and final prep before delivery?
The framed window sticker is such a wonderful touch that I’ve never thought about!
For some reason, its refreshing to see factory blemishes on what we ordinarily would like to believe are flawless cars. I guess there something to be said about hand crafted vehicles. Great video, Larry.
Man, this level of attention to detail is both a gift and curse! Personification of passion.
you are inspiring Larry. Been following this channel for 3 years now and next week our detail garage is opening. I feel as though I have you sitting on my shoulder everytime I go near a car which has doubled my confidence. Thanks Larry.
AMMO love this video! I love how manage to fit so much content into 20mins - rather than stretching it like some youtubers. Great content mate love it.
Sanding a brand new car ... and my family calls me crazy already for saying if I were to get a brand new car I wouldn't allow them to wash the car prior to delivery xD
André Carvalho good call! You wouldn’t believe how little the dealerships care about the paint or the interior for that matter
Brandon Keithley I went to a delivery of a brand new car with a friend who could careless about detailing.
Man the car had 10km on the clock. And was all scratched up with swirl marks. My car is from 2011 and has 1% of those scratches 😅 he asked “can you see anything wrong?” And I’m “ it’s great ....”. he was extra happy why create a problem that he can’t notice
Brandon Keithley I mean I worked as a detailer as well but pay was basically minimum wage you can try and take care with it but you won’t make enough money. Dealerships cheap out on detailing no matter how expensive the car.
@@brads3104 Yep - I WORKED in a dealership and tried to get them to change their approach and attitude. Actually its the MANAGEMENT that doesn't care most of the time and don' t give the wash and prep guys the proper tools and training to not reck a car before its even in the show room or the keys are handed over to the new car client, let alone the "courtesy" washes when the cars are in for service. I went to a detailing school and the owner INSISTS on taking delivery of his new car WITH all the shipping wrap on it and that his new car is not TOUCHED by the prep guys. Unfortunately even if the prep guys WANTED to do a proper paint saving prep, the management would nix that idea by saying its too time consuming and costly - not true if they knew what they were talking about.
Amen to that
Love your attention to detail and how fussy you are. Just the kind of guy I'd love to detail my car.
Man this guys attention to detail is mind boggling. We can all learn from him and improve ourselves at our work. Good for you.
The framed window sticker is one of the coolest touches I've seen. Nice one!
My favorite bits are the parts that you side track to tell us the nerdy details. Phenomenal video and so awesome of him to let you drive the new GT3!
A true craftsman at work
Holy cow didnt even realize AMMO is almost at 650k!! wow
Larry, you and your team fell down from the Heavens and landed on this rock to use your craft on Porsche 911s. The manual 991.2 GT3 is also my dream car. I have a 997.2 C2S in meteorite gray.
One thing I know for sure is, in the event I get enough money to purchase my dream car, I'll make sure I also have enough money to seek out Larry's services...UBERTHOROUGH JOB!!!!!! I also like the "vision wall"...very smart!!! Great job as usual Larry!!!!
Framing that window sticker is really a nice touch - I really would have appreciated it! Especially as you you hand it over personally together with really presenting that car to the owner.
talk about commitment to his craft... I love this guy.... well done..
This is Linus's older cool brother that is into detailing cars rather than electronics lol. Best detailer on UA-cam hands down! I hope you get more recognition and all your dream cars bud
20 minutes of mouth watering Porsches
Sick on so many levels of sick car nerdness, and beautiful to boot...forgot to mention the awesome detailing and attention to the smallest detail. Awesome to see people whom take their job(any job) seriously. Thanks
It’s simple. Larry uploads a video, I watch video.
one of the most down to earth, easy to understand detailing channels. Great
I mean look at this guy, he is a true professional. If more people did this kind of a quality at whatever they do, everyone would be a rockstar. Dude is dialed in.
this guy is definitely the most meticulous detailer I think I have ever seen, shame the entire trade didn't treat your pride and joy this way when you pay good money, great videos
I think this is the best video of yours that I have watched.
One of the best if not the best detailing channels in youtube. Thumbs up to you Larry 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
thank you!
AMMO NYC and thumbs up to your crews as well!
Would love to see a video just about you, your story, your vision wall, the businesses you've had. I know you've touched on all of this but something longer and in greater depth would be fascinating. You're an inspiring guy.
Hope you get your GT3 asap! You deserve it so much! Beautiful work of art.
Thanks. Maybe one day
Wow u r a hardworking man u care about the level of detail put on a car
This man is an artist. He'll have that GT3.💯
Amazing as always Larry. I love that Chalk White colour.
I never knew about the bad luck with folding window stickers... but I know about bananas are bad luck on a boat :)
yOU MAKE BRAND NEW CARS LOOK brand NEW
Make it happen bro, you deserve it. I have some Porsche dreams of my own...[GT4]
The chalk white one is sick! Awesome job!
Karcher make a window vacuum that works perfect I use one whilst doing my car. Quick buff after and it works a treat 👌🏼
I dont know why you dont have more suscribers . This channel is amazing .
THE EXAMPLE OF PERFECTION!!
You are my inspiration on detailing vehicles. I start my mobile detailing next month and hope to one day detail beautiful cars like those Porsche 😍
Love you videos, and being given the chance to be the first to drive a brand new car, by its owner is surely something special and it proves how much he enjoys your work!
I just wanted to say I've watched 2 videos now and have become quite a fan. Shame that when you pay for a Porche GT3 the paint doesn't come from the factory the way it should. Keep up the good work. :)
i’m down in Florida. my initial thought was “why the hell would someone ship a car to you for some paint correction and paint protection film”. plenty of local places to do this. 20 minutes later i can honestly say you make my local guy seem sloppy in comparison. he should be ashamed. my gt3 was riddled with bubbles and the interior was a total mess when he was done. kudos, great job.
The reach n clean tool Can also use a microfiber towel as well and the foam that it comes with, helps hold the microfiber towel given if you wash it properly it doesn’t lose that grip that it has
Nice touch with those frames for the window stickers, Larry!
I like that he is very passionate about what he do .
I got mine detailed and coating from new, well worth it and it's looks FAR better than straight out of the showroom :D
That dream will come... you deserve another beauty to care for and detail out of this world!
I'm always impressed with your level of attention to detail and exactness. People generally not dot attain this, they are born with it. I am glad you are putting it to work and following your passion! It shows.
I am shocked however that Porsche allows these cars to leave the factory with paint blemishes. That's unacceptable. At least you were able to correct it.
we recently had a very similar blue GT3 in our shop here in Portland. We saw several very similar sanding marks on the passenger. It almost looked like a Tesla panel there was so much sanding!
I got to thank you again for all you do! I finally clayed my black truck and I am so happy with the outcome of it. I had been so depressed with the way it was looking after I would wash it and the clay totally makes it look like new. Thank you very much for all the information and your products are great!
this was amazing, Larry, please more videos, i am sure a lot of you subscribers dont mind watching you do the same thing over and over
Today I learned a lot for your video. Can't wait to see what's next.
Tip for the glass Larry. Try Autoglym professional glass polish ( any high quality glass polish should work ) and add a little tar and adhesive remover. I no it sounds odd but trust me it works haha. Mix it 10% adhesive remover and 90& polish Mic really well and use a polishing sponge or hard applicator and give the glass a good scrub then leave to dry and remove as normal. Works a treat every time.
Great video Larry as always even though I quit detailing and have started my youtube channel I watch every video, and cant wait to see your gt3rs that we all know you will work towards and acquire!
Great video Larry! It was super interesting to see and compare the different state of the three cars. Shout to chris for letting you drive, he’s the real mvp
He is one of the best detailers I have ever seen
Wow.. framing the sticker. That’s just next level detail. Gotta love it. Awesome job, yet again!
That before and after is absolutely breathtaking...... 6:14 - 6:45
Best detailer hands down !
The Effort, the gestures ... So great! This is true passion! I wanna get a GT3 from you :)
Incredible! This is one of my favorite videos of yours, Larry. Thanks.
Dude! You are so cool!
I love your VLOGS!
I learn so much!
I'm proud to be a detailing nerd!
Rhode Island okay!!! We bringing the heat baby
I worked at an OEM, and I can 99% guarantee you those cars are not sanded/polished before leaving the factory. The paint process uses base and clear coats that attempt to mitigate the need for what you would consider proper finishing.
More than likely, any defects that you see are due to handling after it was completed. Employees drive cars out of the factory/around the lot, onto the boats that ship them to the US, etc. They go through a lot of hands and pass by a lot of people before they get to you.
Also, different paints typically run through the same paint robots with a changeover process, so the quality of the changeover and the ambient setting in the room plays a huge role in how the paint finish comes out. Then they go through final inspections where the goal is to identify defects but of course can introduce new ones depending on who the inspector is. To be honest, Almost no one will call a car for repair due to swirls and buff marks. Unless there are actual hairs or other physical defects in the paint that could cause it to flake and rust, it'll pass QA.
Wrong. There are plenty of videos of the entire manufacturing process at Porsche on these cars and they are sanded/polished by hand by the people on the production line.
kern417 I took Euro Delivery of my 2008 CARRERA WHITE/Gun Metal GT3 RS & I watchedthe paint jobs which are very much hand applied as well as getting SOME cut/buffing...It all seemed to depend on the colour..
pretty sure those 3 marks were from the suction tooling used in the factory.
i work in aerospace ans we use em to hold sheets up, but NO ONE ever wipes off the suction cups on the tool.
Literally the first video if you search "porsche manufacturing process" shows a 2018 Turbo being painted by a robot. The link is z3zuPyjFTsk. Feel free to post a link of cars getting hand painted but it's not going to happen.
Not hand painted. But after they are painted by robots, workers do sand and buff them by hand. First few minutes of this video you can see robots painting the car. Then a guy HAND PAINTING the hood. Then someone buffing the paint with a hand-held wheel. ua-cam.com/video/z3zuPyjFTsk/v-deo.html Yes, this is an Exclusive Series car. But the regular production cars and the GT cars are 100% touched by some dude with a buffer wheel too.
Larry...Not sure if your knees are protected as you polish but I remember my doctor saying its the worst thing you can do to your knees because all of your weight is focused there. Just food for thought. Love your videos. You ROCK!
With window cleaning, I've found that mixing IPA with distilled water, rather than ordinary tap water, helps to reduce water staining. Distilled water is cheap for what's required, so there's no reason not to use it. Even when using distilled water, I find it difficult to remove all traces of water staining, so that's a current area of research.
damn that vision wall of cars is inspiring. made me think. I guess I do sort of that with the model cars I build. I just give them a special spot. I put the same ammount of attention to detail into that as you put into your detailing. In fact I use the method explained for your 964, which is my dream car and I recently built it for my collection, to ensure a perfect result of the paint. Detailing with machines is a bit hard on this scale because it's really hard to get deeper scratches out of the paint so I shoot for the best result possible straight after clear coating the second time.
anyways this is inspiring, keep doing it please
Another awesome vid Larry, and what an amazing job opportunity (I could watch these all day)... Can't wait to see the new GT3 in your driveway!
A shop in NYC is teaching a mayor german manufacturer how treat paint... Interesting. Great job!
Love the attention to detail, makes me so happy!
My day is complete! Thanks Larry! Now just get me some reflex and life will be good!
For any UK viewers watching, When Larry says the car has "6 mil of paint" it's not 6 millimetres, the clear bra is defiantly not 6 millimetres, it's also known as a "thou" so the cars had 6 thousandth of an inch (0.006 inch)
Keep up the great content and I’m sure you will get your dream Porsche
Just like that 20 mins gone. Amazing job Larry!
I love this channel,but I don't know if I'd let you be the first to drive my new 911...however,I would let you borrow it for the weekend..lol! Thank you for sharing. Take care.
What are friends for ;)
you dont have one so dont worry
I wasn’t aware they made this car in a manual! Definitely my dream car now
Awesome detail job! The GT3 and RS variant are amazing Beasts! The Chalk White looks fantastic!