Matt Taibbi On Malcolm Gladwell: "He Insinuated I was Racist"
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Best part of the debate was Gladwell’s self-reflection on why he lost.
Great example of someone who can’t accept that they’ve made a mistake. Look it up.
Even easier for you: ua-cam.com/video/cGGCe2DlV88/v-deo.htmlsi=QpdRCuwddgy3SrVO
I did look it up quite a while ago.
His cluelessness shone through to me most in his failing to note during his analysis that one of the reasons that he fared badly was that he was supporting a position that wasn't true. He went on at length about how he could have performed better, never once reflecting on the idea that the world's best debater would have a difficult time defending that the world is flat. Malcolm's position was to defend a position with about the same credibility as the world being flat.
@@samdg1234 You're giving him too much credit. A ham sandwich could have put forward better arguments than Gladwell did.
As if I could lose any more respect for Gladwell...his podcast episode reflecting on the debate was enlightening and maddening. He never respected his opponents and he now chalks up the loss to tactics/techniques. Oh brother. He still doesn't get it...
Lol at thinking commie matt taibbi ever wins debates. Sorry your ideology failed Karl Marx. Love that taibbi hasn't changed America like he has been trying for 20 years to do. I remember the tantrum he threw when bush beat kerry
Matt Taibi has the one thing Malcolm Gladwell sorely lacks - humility!
And integrity
He has zero integrity is mostly wrong and his left wing ideology is a joke. Him and Bernie Sanders should both move to Cuba if they want to steal my money so bad.
He has no integrity and has a g&rbage ideology. Taibbi never had any credilbity to begin with. Total s0cialist hack.
Taibbi has no integrity and has a g&rbage ideology. He has no credilbity to begin with. Total s0cialist hack.
Taibbi has no integrity and has a g&rbage ideology. He has no credilbity to begin with. Total s0cialist hack.
I lost ALL respect for Malcolm Gladwell. I had seen/read his books and never seen him speak. Watching him speak was like seeing the twitter profile of a journalist, you go "holy crap, you look and act like THAT? Why did I ever trust your words." Him intentionally getting his opponents names wrong was straight out of highschool and unbecoming of any adult of repute.
And his own follow up to the debate sealed it, not that anyone was surprised. He refused to grow, accept defeat, or change in any way. Instead, he dug in further to try and pretend to his followers that he won.
How did he follow it up? If it's on UA-cam could you post the link?
@@isaacalexander5286i think he is referring to the end of the debate where the moderator approaches Gladwell and asks what he thought about it.
@@isaacalexander5286he went on a podcast and completely dismissed his entire behavior with "Douglas Murray is Cambridge trained, white privileged male" excuse. It really was just as pathetic and embarrassing as his behavior on the Munk debate.
@@Marymackthequeenofwack Do you know what podcast?
@@isaacalexander5286 it won't let me link it. Just search Malcolm Gladwell goes to debate school
“People who think they’re celebrities..” lmao. 😂👍
I had really enjoyed Gladwell's books when I was younger.....but I saw that "debate" and chucked his books into the trash. I just can't respect someone who just tosses out unfounded racism accusations because they know they're losing the argument. Showed his real character and who Gladwell truly is at the core.
It's like losing a fencing match and then just pulling the pin on a grenade. "Well, if I can't win then no one else will either...."
If Matt had said that some colors of skins are racist, but other colors of skins cannot be racist, then that would have been racist.
Gladwell destroyed any credibility he had left in that debate. Showed himself for the snake he is
100%
I agree. I really like his books, but he completely destroyed his own reputation in that debate. You mention his name in passing now and people puff their cheeks out and roll their eyes.
Leftist taibbi never had any credibility to begin with. Is he going to cry again about there being guns in America? Still remember his tears when bush ended the "assaultweapon" ban.
Taibbi never had credibility to begin with. Total s0cialist clown.
Taibbi never had any credilbity to begin with. Total s0cialist hack.
You know the person you're debating with has no substance to their rebuttal when they have to resort to ad hominem attacks and baseless slander.
It’s called the Ace Ventura reflex, “…and you’re ugly”.
Lol taibbi has never had any substance in his life. Total s0cialistclown who cried when Kerry lost to Bush. If he was in charge he would raise your taxes, take your guns and shut down small business.
If the "legacy media" showed even a shred of humility, and an indication that they would work to do better, I think almost everyone would give them a chance.
The arrogance, the hubris.... it just rubs me wrong.
I gave left wing media hack Taibbi a chance, but it was all s0cialist garbage. He's a disgrace to America.
Malcolm Gladwell seems like someone who ends up finding out that his ancestors owned slaves
well he is a biracial so that's not exactly so mind blowing
At least he isn't a commie like taibbi. Taibbi has been trying to turn America communist for 20 years. He cried when bush beat kerry lol
Probably does
Attacking the person and not the argument is not likely to earn you many points in contests like this.
Don't sell yourself short Matt. Sure Douglas is a great debate performer, but your humbleness in presenting factual arguments really cemented your side of the debate. You guys made an outstanding team in presenting your side of the issue.
Completely agree. I love Douglas, but I found Matt’s complete confusion at ‘Malc’s’ underhand tactics to be as disarming as Douglas’ wit.
@@tchai91 Taibbi has no integrity and has a g&rbage ideology. He has no credilbity to begin with. Total s0cialist hack.
Taibbi has no integrity and has a g&rbage ideology. He has no credilbity to begin with. Total s0cialist hack.
You just say that because you want Walter Cronkite to whisper sweet nothings in your shell like ears about all the slurs he shouted at Malc's mum when she lived in London.
...or something.
Gladwell demonstrated "The person who is high on the smell of their own farts" ...
Explain taibbithesocialist quite well.
He did NOT insinuate that Matt was racist, he flat out stated that he was.
Have you ever seen Old Whitey (J P) interview a black, chinee or latino. He barely interview a woman
@peznino1 You shouldn’t have voting rights or access to the internet.
@@peznino1
Keep reaching , buddy 😂
Matt Taibbi is unnecessarily humble. He is a genuinely heroic reporter. The debate itself was epic.
I'm sure that being on the same team, as the famous Douglas Murray, would have added to his humility. I like his humble manner. He says what he means to say calmly, rationally and succinctly. It's the only way for a decent human being to act.
Agreed. Of course Douglas destroyed everyone, but Matt kept up with him extremely well. Gladwell came out looking like a whiney baby.
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He's not. He's a racist and a bigot.
The truth always comes out.
Gladwell's performance at that debate was his Cathy Newman moment - so embarrassingly bad that he may never wash the stink off.
One thing you have to understand is, Gladwell and people like him will always have power and status with people who think like him. These people tend to fail upwards
I had a bunch of Gladwell's books on my reading list. After seeing that debate, I removed the books. Clearly this is a man who has no regard at all for intellectual honesty. How can I possibly trust anything at all that he says?
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“Ok, Malc.” -Dougie Murray 😂
By and large Canadians are not racists. We believe in fairness, everyone pulling their own load, and being accountable.
To the left that is racist
All well and fine. Just hope you're not insinuating that Americans are. IMO, they fit your descr. of Canadians. FOr all the claims of racist this and that, your eyes and ears will tell you different if you get around enough.
I saw that debate and was astonished at what Gladwell was saying. I think most people who witnessed it felt similar.
Are we morally better as people? I would argue that acting nicer is not the same as having a strong moral character.
You are correct
We are in an era where putting on a 'nice' front is imperative. I am not a Trump guy but all of that BS is drummed by the Democrats. They are all about salutation over substance.
Malcolm was just terrible at the debate. He kept beating the whole white male privilege and couldn’t let go.
It's Marxism. Shows his red colour and his propensity for great evil.
He seems to have long since run out of ideas- and that seems true of most of the liberal-left.
Whenever the left are losing a debate they always try and use the race card
Roughly, he was an asshole .
Legacy Media - Just take a look at who owns them
Legacy media is like legacy admissions to university or college institutions: you're more likely to be mediocre (or less) if you're riding the coattails of people who were actually deserving.
Michelle Goldberg is a lightweight with a unearned reputation. Could not say anything intelligent in Munk debate with Peterson and Stephen Fry. It wasn’t a fair fight. I would have more satisfaction doing the laundry. As for Gladwell, didn’t he write a book about scissors, or something?
That debate with fry and peterson was fabulous.. they won hands down
To deserve trust one must be trustworthy.
Forty years ago anyone I spoke to who had personal knowledge of some story in the newspaper complained that the story got important details wrong.
Another great interview
I watch the legacy media to get a gist of what's going on in the world. Then, I scour the internet to find out what really happened.
I'd love to know if positions are assigned or asked for. If assigned, having the opposite debate would be awesome.
Malcolm was just being a mocking ass. Douglas had facts and Malcolm chose ad hominems as debate tactics. Douglas Murray is excellent debater. Matt writes very well but speaking is still harder.
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These AirPods read as earrings here for some reason. Lol
The go-to position in any debate now is the race angle. Everything is about race. When Malcolm turns on Matt and his reflections on the Walter Cronkite days framing him as a white dude for only white news is absurd.
In the mometn I could not believe he was actually dishing out that garbage.
Gladwell was insanely insincere and dishonest and the audience noticed
When this happened way back -- I was shocked to see that so many on a YT ch were still heaping praise on Gladwell after he clearly got smoked. Some people...
Too few around today understand what happened to the media or when it happened. I am old so I know. It was the early 70s...I think 1972...when Roone Arledge had CBS put the news division under the entertainment division and made it be profitable. The other networks followed afterwards. Once you are worried about listing sponsors and your ratings, you can't tell bad stories about sponsors (hearing a lot about the vegan twins study on mainstream media lately and have you heard as much as you heard when the Egg Board published a study saying eggs don't raise cholesterol?) The negative predictions all came true. Add in consolidation of media and the mainstream becomes more profitable and less trustworthy.
Or the BiCentennial year when all of the newsrooms and broadcasts went all bright and shiny with smiley news-babes and such. Plus they started adding all of those lame-o cooking tips segments and how to care for your cat's paws, how to talk to your goldfish etc. Point being is that hard news began to take a backseat to this type of BS and weather report and funny sports guy. All for the hope of more $$$$.
@@xaspirate8060 It's worse now. How many times do you watch local news only to find the story is a commercial for a local business?
You are correct. I would also add that it had to do with Roger Aisles, CEO of Fox News who understood that the kind of civilized debates, like the Munk debates could get much better ratings, if they were eviscerated and changed into 30 second yelling matches with the most drama one could muster before the commercial break. Proved wildly popular...
Rooney Arledge was the president and essentially the founder of ABC sports. He later used his considerable management skills to transform the ABC news division into a powerhouse on par with CBS and NBC. Through innovative sports and news production (wide world of sports, NFL Monday night football, world news tonight, nightline). Arledge put the entire ABC television network on the map. He also was the television executive who unleashed Howard Cosell on to an unsuspecting public.
Yet, as I examine his career, it was ABC's coverage of the Olympics that changed television forever. Arledge was the executive in charge during 1972 Munich games massacre of the Israeli athletes. Arledge and his team's coverage of that event was truly exceptional.
ABC was singularly effective in displaying to the television audience the human dimension of the athetes(the segments were called "up close and personal "). And that is especially true about promoting the athletes from the eastern bloc countries. Arledge doubled the size of the viewing audience by promoting sports women cared about. Coverage of Figure skating and women's gymnastics brought millions of female viewers to the Olympics. There is no way to overstate how visionary Roone Arledge's contributions were to television production.
gladwell went so low as to mispronounce Matts name wrong continually.
Matt is cool af!
Gladwell writes the intellectual equivalent of rock 'n roll. Goldberg is an abortion-obsessed lightweight.
He uses "mien" so smoothly, so naturally.
Gladwell is a small mind. Why he would throw the race card at Taibbi who does real work, not just simplistic formula books. Matt who is very likeable. It just showed poor judgement, not to mention a nasty streak.
Jordan said, "You mess with Douglas (Murray) at your peril.
Sam Harris should be aware of it but Sam is too dug in to his delusions.
Sam is way smarter than that ego maniac
@@tammilicious3724
And equally relevant, Sam may have larger feet.
😂👉@@tammilicious3724
I like his books for an interesting perspective but I saw that debate and it made me question everything he ever wrote.
"He insinuated I was Racist", I said to Jordan Peterson with dismay, unironically.
You did well on that debate too Matt. 👍🏼
❤
A bit surprised Gladwell played that card. Seem to recall a similar tactic being used against him a few years ago, someone reading sexism or racism into a claim he made.
Malc 🤣😂😆😁
At least the Greeks defined the aim of the game of dialogue before having it. The body of every game are rules. Todays body of discussion is a hecatoncheires. Not in Logos
Philo Nikia is done by the genius surrounded by fools. Philo Sophia is done by the fool surrounded by geniuses.
Nikia aims down while Sophia aims up.
Nikia aims to win. Sophia aims to improve.
Nikia is for speed unbounded by rules but finite. Sophia is for distance, bounded by rules and infinite.
Nikia sees an adversary while Sophia sees a beneficial adversary.
Nikia sees the destination over the journey. Sophia sees the journey over the destination.
Nikia cares about what it knows. Sophia cares about what it doesn’t.
Nikia doesn’t have to outrun a bear. It just has to outrun you. Sophia has nothing to run from. It aims at the bear.
Wonderfully insightful commentary. Thank you
People like you make me realize how deficient my education is.
Peterson if you read this
The only story that can defeat the maker of stories is the one the teller cannot say. Tell it Peterson. It begins with the word clemency. Cain sacrifices potential for the present but Abel sacrificed potential for the destination. Only the journey above both absent moments in time exists across time as judged by time the only judge of truth
Nothing has changed for the better since the 40's.
GOD commands all nations, tribes and tongues to repentance 🙌ALLELUIA 🙌 A-men' 🌿
2:58 Once upon a time a middle-income person could buy a house. Not any more.
Ask Poe AI app ‘is Malcolm Gladwell a white man?”
Watched the debate sometime ago. Malcom was disgraceful to say the least. Childish argumenrs and the lady was not even making any points. Fekt embarassedfor them.
have to disagree with peterson saying " canadian audiences arent big on the racist card" being pulled. they are big on it.
Gladwell's books, especially the earlier ones, always always injected racism against blacks into his arguments. His books were interesting, but the racial victimization tended to get in the way of his theses.
I don't know Jordan, there was a pretty far gap between you and Michael Eric Dyson.
Walter Cronikite...was a trusted news anchor.. weather or not he deserved it is irrelevant.. he was.. its not racist to point this out.. historical fact i remember it
Let Matt finish his thoughts.
Why is Malcolm still in the picture. He needs to retire...go away. Every dam time I see him he gets bulldozed! Used to respect Michelle but she felt the need to play the Game.
Matt seriously needs to see a vocal coach to work on his vocal fry. He sounds like some early 2000s SoCal socialite.
find a fucking hobby
Matt ya gota change earring those ugly
Perhaps its deserved, bit Malcolm Gladwell can be the author of his own downfall; to pretend to forget his name is amusing, but i feel you are falling into his underhand world.
Taibbi’s vocal fry is so distracting.
I am someone firmly planted in the center so my ability to remain objective and reserved is quite capable, that being said, I just watched that debate, it was not one sided at all, in fact I would have given the win to Malcolm far more than Douglas or Matt. Michelle was not exceptionally strong and seemed a bit scatter brained at times but I think the Nay side argument was far more cogent.
Malcolm is awful
bla bla bla waste of time bye!...
Kudos to Matt for admitting that Douglas Murray won the debate. Actually, I think Malcolm Gladwell won the debate... for the opposite side. Matt is not a good speaker, and certainly not a great debater, but he had help from both his debating partner, as well as his opponents.
😂😂😂
if Mr. Peterson meant money printing by saying capitalisim he would have been correct in how it has affected the poor which by its affects on the country has been a negative
Douglas Murray does not impress ME.
Douglas Murray is a good debater, but he’s wrong about Israel and he’s proven that unequivocally.
Jordan peterson cannot interview a guest without interrupting him far more than is necessary. Jordan peterson just likes to talk and likes to hear himself talk.
Dude breaks his rules regularly lol
You think he interjected too much here?
It was a discussion not an interview. JP’s contributions were all informative.
Someone has penis envy
He's got a lot to say, and seems to be listening well enough to interrupt with a coherent response to what the guests are saying. But yeah he's still interrupting. Not Dennis Prager level but enough to notice.
Juden Peterstein
Is Peterson interviewing someone else or giving a sermon? The man is constitutionally unable to shut his mouth...
In a recent debate between Douglas Murray and Cenk Uygur on the Piers Morgan show, Murray bragged about being employed by mainstream newspapers while sneering that Uygur was only a UA-camr. That's how much of a grifter Murray is.
Why always wear 🧢? He sensitive about his alopecia. Just shave it off.
3:25 Sorry JP, I just can't support your defense of capitalism/corporatism. You claim capitalism has lifted X number of people out of poverty, but what put them there in the first place? And where in capitalism's doctrine is it stated to lift people out of poverty?
Say hi to Camarade Staline for me!😂
Capitalism and corporatism are not the same thing. Suggesting capitalism put poor people there in the first place is suggesting that they were all much better off financially before and then capitalism came in and wiped them out economically, which is not the case. Government intervention into the marketplace, along with corporate collusion with the state, has caused a lot of problems for those who are struggling financially. This however is the antithesis of capitalism, and is being done by design to make poor people reliant upon government "benevolence", thus working against their own best interests. This is where the race-baiting and anti-white rhetoric is useful in making people complacent as victims because they feel that it's impossible for them to advance in life financially. Which again, is not the case at all.
I remember when MT was a credible journalist. JP has never been a respected figure even in his own field.
By legacy media meaning people with actual credentials, fact checker and oversight vs social media nonsense.
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