I did some tests today. IMPACT GUNS SPEEDS 4215rpm with I/M style and Automotive Style fittings 5725rpm with V-Style fittings amzn.to/2UcKuTu DIE GRINDER SPEEDS 3000-5000rpm increase with V-style(tested by ear as the speeds exceed my meters 20,000rpm capacity) TIP HOLE SIZE FLOW .031sq inches to flow air with I/M and Automotive fittings .040sq inches to flow air with hand DRILLED out I/M fittings (backyard high flow) .071sq inches to flow air with V-Style fittings amzn.to/2UcKuTu
I can't believe it took me so long. I have drilled them out in the past but didn't feel any improvement as you can only go a tiny bit. The standard M fittings has a hole with the surface area of .031sqaure inches; where the V style are .071 square inches. Drilling may get you up to .040 but the V style still flows twice the air.
these fittings are 100% the way to go. Never going back! High flow V-style for life. Tremendously better in every way compared to the standard ones. easier to use as well. My air compressor is fully upgraded with high flow everything and larger 3/8 hose. only a 6 gallon 4.2cfm but still can run anything I throw at it. the bigger stuff can work well in short bursts still too. impact wrenches work well when used in short bursts. doesnt suck too much air.
Good to know as I only have 6 gallon Makita for homeowner type garage and woodworking pneumatic nail punch on hardwood pallets. He made me feel as if I’d need a 60/80 gallon tank. Thank you for sharing.
When I first got my "800 ft. lbs" impact, I tried it with 1/4 coiled air hose and it would not remove any lug-nut. I thought it was defective. Changed to a 3/8 hose and now the same impact has removed every lug-nut I've tried. I look forward to trying the Milton's Hi Flows.
@@sixtyfiveford I won't ruin it for everyone else , but years ago I got the husky ones at the depot. I could tell right away because the ol ir2131 barely needed a brap on the lugnuts. Dual stage at a shop it was awesome , but after I left there I kept it at my (play) shop. I was bummed about it's performance on a single stage compressor , but the high flow fittings made me feel about 70% better 😆 What I mean is the fittings gave me back what I felt was close to 70% of the performance of running it on a dual stage.
I'm running half inch hose with the milton high flow fittings and it is a huge gap between the 3/8s hose with their fittings to the half inch hose with their fittings
Gotta love it, man and his best friend. He was so dissapointed in himself for letting you down. That is great. I'm gonna get me a set of those high flow miltons. Thanks man for sharing.
When I was visiting a friend's street rod shop (shout out to Big Oak Garage) I noticed that even with air hoses everywhere there were no audible leaks. I asked and he said he used Milton. My Chinese connectors leak all the time even when new. Just got a new compressor and went with the Milton brass V couplers and steel plugs. If I gain some performance that's a bonus. Although I have a generous collection of air tools I mostly blow away chips/sawdust and drive small brads/nails. The main reason I went with the V system is the ease of connecting and disconnecting.
@@sixtyfiveford I made an adapter with a regular connector on one end for the occasion that I use a tool that doesn't have a hi flo end. Although I converted all mine you never know maybe someone loans you a tool without a hi flo.
I used ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell
Miltons are the only brand I've used that don't leak or have excess play. Your filter on your compressor will catch some dirt and oil but will need to be downstream at least 50 ft to catch water. The air exiting the xompressor needs time to cool down which then condensate so the filter will not catch water. This doesn't matter too much if you're not painting but if you want really clean air running through your all your tools then you should relocate the filter and maybe think about a 3 stage. Thanks for the heads up on the v style. Your vids are always super informative!
For the most part here in Utah we have such low humidity it's not a major concern. But painting definitely needs a better dryer system than the tiny one I have.
Not sold on the test methodolgy, but the difference in sound alone is clear. P.S., if you like air tools, buy the harbor frieght extended 4" cutoff tool. Best air I've ever used.
I purchases the same kit from The Home Depot app back in March for $20.82. I bought them along with a brand new air compressor and F.R.L. Upon receiving the couplers, the absolute first thing I noticed was the huge holes! This was the first time seeing them and I do have to say that the airflow is great! Maybe not the full 70% that Milton claims but it's pretty close. I can most definitely tell the difference like you did when you go and use an older coupler. This "V style" purple colored high flow set is the way to go. You won't be disappointed. Many of us have purchased and love em!!!
The high flow fittings is all we use in our paint booths at work. There is a huge difference when we use an adapter in order to spray a small piece out in the shop floor... But you are right that it wont benefit all air tools. Good vid!
Went over to 3/8 hoses and Milton Hi-flo "V" style a year ago. Never looked back. The plugs are cheap enough when you buy a pack of 20, to change everything over, the sockets are a bit more expensive but, in my opinion, worth every penny.
I have that same IR 3/4" gun, it's power ratings are with 1/2" air line at 95 psi. So no doubt would greatly benefit from more air flow over the 1/4" fittings. I got a set in my Amazon cart! Thanks
Thanks for making this video I work for an abrasive and tool company. As you showed with the cut off tool, these high flow fittings are excellent on cut off tools and 4.5” grinders. They will even make a big difference on your little roloc die grinder too!
Thanks for great vid! I noticed your old "M" style plug seemed to work in the new "V" style socket. Conversely I have had instances where the "V" style plug will not even go into an "M" style socket. If you look carefully and measure, there IS a difference in the "V" and the "M" styles. I saw a vid by some guy that showed a dangerous situation with fittings blowing apart because these 2 slyles don't fit perfectly. Just eyeball them side by side. You can see the difference! Be careful mixing "V" and "M"!
Oh no. First I'll change out the V fittings, then the compressor won't keep up, so I'll need an extra tank or maybe another compressor. Little projects like this have a way of escalating. I like the 1/4" style, so at least you can change out only those devices that need the extra flow. Going to 3/8 will likely work better but would need a broader switch. On the other hand, maybe one could use 3/8 for proximal line, then swap out a distal line with 1/4 V style fittings....
The V style fittings have been since the 90s, I believe. That's how log I've been using them anyhow. My local farm store had run out of M type and a guy I knew said these were the same but with a larger passage. There was no marketing for them, then. Actually, I saw them at the same farm store with normal Milton packaging last week. The Mac Tools guy even told me thats what is used to spec their impact wrenches.
v style are a high maintenance option. The couplers constantly cook off and continuously blast air out until you replace them. They are also a royal pain to connect especially when you use them a bit. I used them for 3 years in my shop and finally had enough to switched to "P" Style fittings and couplers thru out the entire shop and they flow more than the v style and have never had one leak or wear out in over a year now. We run 160gallons of air at 180 psi unregulated for what its worth.
I just switched over to the HF branded high flow fittings and I absolutely love them and swear by them. The increased flow is very noticeable. Thanks for posting this my Friend! Cheers Moe! Zip~
Not alot of people know it but you can install the V style couplers on you're compressor and hoses and still use the M style fittings in them if you don't have all you're tools changed over yet
Awww your pup at the end was adorable, I felt so bad for him/her! Wanted to give him/her a big hug AND another sandwich hahaha. Great video, thanks for the indepth info and comparison!
i used calcium chloride pellets for moisture removal and after 10 years it rottec all of my air tools and all of my lines in a 400 sq foot home shop...I now use tags in a flanged pressure container and it works perfectly...I replaced the tools, switched ($3000) over to plastic lines and high flow fitting, all so that I could do pinion nuts and other high torque fasteners...God bless...doug
@@sixtyfivefordthey use calcium choride on the grid toads in front of peoples yards when the dust gets bad up here it holds the moisture until it gets very hot(rots the body metal as fast as all the salt they use, dadgummit)... I meant to say I used rags , a friend uses an old pair of coveralls and he paints a lot with no probs...I m actually using a stack of paint booth air filters now ...sure enjoy your vids...prepare for the worst and expect the best friend...doug (kanada)
I can tell you from years of working on class 8 trucks hi flow fittings make a big difference.Also that 3/4 impact should have a 1.0 inch hose and a bigger qd.fitting
I did have 1" hose a few years ago. What a pain to drag that around, but dang the gun had power. The hose ended up getting shelved as I mainly only use it for cars so it takes everything off even with the restriction. From time to time I need to pull out the big hose and fittings though.
I too use the Milton Hi-Flow fittings and I can hear and see a performance difference on my air tools. I had to laugh that your dog did not eat the pickle, but everything else was completely gone. Pretty funny
Question for you so I just got new little 175psi compressor but the hose leaks at the end where fitting is tired airing up tire wouldn’t even put 10 psi in tire The tank fills up fine I can feel the air in the hose ain’t got a clue is wrong with it do you?
I’ve seen people drill out the tool port itself to gain more power but this is such a simple solution. Although I’ve been getting away from air going to cordless, I still run a 60 gallon with a 21 reserve tank in line so for twenty bux to change over my shop, it’s done deal! Thanks for the heads up! Ginger should get a second chicken sangy based on that cuteness overload alone! 😍✌🏼
I have drilled them out in the past but didn't feel any improvement as you can only go a tiny bit. I have also done the same inside the coupler but you can't do much in those without compromising the integrity. The standard M fittings has a hole with the surface area of .031sqaure inches; where the V style are .071 square inches. Drilling may get you up to .040 but the V style still flows twice the air. I actually sold off my small 3/8 Snap ON and 1/2 Mid Size impact a few months ago as I replaced them with cordless. My biggest complaint with cordless is they do not feel as solid and vibrate, rattle all over the place to do the same job an air impact does with nice solid hits. Air is like riding in a Cadillac, the cordless is like riding in a covered wagon down a dirt road. Both do the same job, one just beats you up more. I'm keeping the 3/4 Ingersoll and won't replace it with cordless.
sixtyfiveford: I don’t blame you one bit. That 3/4 is a beast and I love that 80 gallon endless supply tank you have too! I had an opportunity to get one of those for free a few years ago while I was hauling steel to a work shop they were renovating, but there was no way I could get that sucker off the trailer if they would’ve put it on with a forklift like they wanted to, oh well my loss. I kinda made up for it grabbing this 60gal Craftsman for pennies cause the owner said “it just stopped working” lol. A new ring kit and it’s building pressure like a champ so an $800 compressor for $40 works for me! Besides, I’m mainly keeping air these days for filling tires and blowing dust dirt and grime off of stuff but also for the wood shop for my brad, finish and framing nailer‘s because who the heck can afford to drop $400 for a new cordless nailer?! (I do have a pasload cordless 6v gas framer that I really like.) The newest dewalt and metabo/hitachi cordless nailers are really sweet too, meh, maybe someday... For now I have to do a complete accountability on all of my air tools so I can get a good count on what I need for connectors to include all the splice points and shut off’s everywhere in the shops and for the outside ports too. Last count was up to $60, but that’s still pretty cheap to ensure all that extra ooomph lol. Enjoy your day brother.✌🏼
I changed all my fittings over to high flow fittings going on 2 yrs ago , they are great specially on older tools , the only draw back is they at that time they didnt make a pressure relief coupler ,the high flow males dont work well with push button releases .i miss pushing the button and waiting just a second for the die grinder to pop off with no pressure behind it or the 50' air hose just falling off without bleeding the pressure off..
I don't know I feel like the easiest way to test this would be to tighten them with the height flow fittings and see if the low flow fittings can loosen them and if not then that means the high flow fitting makes the impact more powerful
That's been one of the greatest features. When ordering this I forgot how many odds and ends(tire chucks etc) I had that have the smaller fittings. They really don't need high flow and have no issue working with the Milton V style.
I just use what ever fitting matches the internal diameter of the hose it’s connected to. My 10mm internal hose has the 10mm internal “euro” style fittings and my bigger 13mm internal hose uses the bigger 3 hole fitting. Once the fittings internal size is at least the size of the hose that’s as good as it gets, bigger than the hose and the hose is still the biggest restricter.
Keep in mind the restriction is in the coupling where the air has to go through turns and passages. I've seen at least 2 completely different V-style couplers (Milton and ???). I know all the paint shops moved from the V to a $28 coupler system (I think Provost is one) - I don't know anything about these $$$ coupler/plug systems.
Would have been interesting to see a comparison of the tool hard lined onto the hose too. My buddy has a shop with a few hose reels with tools permanently installed on them.
Hi. Do you think Flexzilla rubber hybrid air hose is a better hose than your Goodyear rubber in this video? Also, I see some WYNNsky amd JACO high flow air fittings on Amazon. Any good? Comparable quality to Milton, or stay away? Thank you very much.
Try torquing the nuts with the high flow fittings, and see if you can can get them off with the regular fittings. My thought is that more air flow allows it to hit harder, therefore tighter. Lower flow shouldn’t be able to break it free.
The only problem with that logic is that the break away reverse torque hits differently than the forward torque. It would not work, trust me. For example on a 2235TiMax, forward torque is 870 ft. lbs, but reverse busting torque is 1760 ft. lbs. He even said the same thing in the video 9:00.
I had always wondered since You lead hose from the compressor, air hose itself the opening is standard. Should the inlets and outlets be drilled out to match the high flow fitting diameter to get the most out of it?
They come in brass and steel as well. The one in my air hammer is beat up as it takes so much vibration but the others are all good. I haven't had to replace any yet, but I did buy a 3 pack of brass for $4 to swap the air hammer.
I just picked up a compressor recently and didn't know what fittings and what size to go with it being a ridgid tristack 5 gallon I think but could be wrong on that wanna go with 3/8 but whats on there i don't know if the couplers leak so I may go ahead and replace them with brand new ones im gonna have to see what size it has on it
Loved the video! Great dog! and truck!! It looks like these fittings are just far to soft. Lots of failures when used on impact tools, such as hammers, scalers, impact wrenches, etc. Its the same issue as using brass, and Milton knows this!!! These fittings should be made of steel. For a hobbyist that only uses a impact 1-2 times per month this might be sufficient. But if your in a shop setting, just get the 3/8 steel fittings.
The Ting is you have still a big hose and the good fittings on your tank... inmagin the difference with all standart parts... I live in germany and have the standart NW 7,2... (7,2mm inside ) i dont know if it is compatibile but i reely would like to use them. Now i only have a big hose (12mm/ 1/2 inch inner diameter) connected to the 1/2 inch port to my compressor... and only that make a difference over 1 Bar at the end of the hose vs the 6mm hose.
So when using my 1200 ft lb impact gun I have to have high flow all the way from the tank to every fitting all the way to the tool.. I have a 3-way manifold connected to a regular low-flow connector at the tank and 350 ft sections of hose in the manifold everything is low-flow connector.. if I want to use one of the hoses strictly for my impact gun can I just put a high-flow male on one end and a high-flow quick connect on the other end and a high-flow mail in my impact gun? Or will the manifold and the low-flow Quick Connect that the manifold is plugged into at the tank reduce my air flow? I only use my gun when I rotate my tires or do my brakes I am no kind of mechanic.. no I do use my die grinder to sharpen my riding tractor blades
If i get the hi flow fittings on the coupler can i mix and match? Or do i have to have high flow with high flow? Also do they just press in easy or do i have to press the collar down on the coupler to get it to fit?
I have a 20 gallon tank and cannot remove my 150 lb torque lug nut on f150. I might try buying the high velocity coupling but cannot imagine it working. But u never know.
Alright, my question is do the hi flow fittings hold up as well as the OG fittings, I know the cheap aluminum hi flow fittings that come on an impact from the tool truck that come in all the fun colors brake in a week of use swap it to a Milton and you’re good for a decent amount of time.
They're close but still not as good. They have a smaller hole opening .031sq inches to flow air with I/M and Automotive fittings .071sq inches to flow air with Milton V-Style fittings .069sq inches to flow air with Flexzilla. That's only the male fitting. The coupler is a whole different story. Most of the Chinese knock offs have a plug that covers the inlet when a fitting is plugged in. So they are worse than a regular IM fitting. I bought a few other brands after the video to just see and they all are worse(Amazon Basics, Harbor Freight Hi Flow, and two others). Just go with Milton and you won't be disappointed.
Ya we had an air hose that i gues was collapsed or had some restriction in the hose you could tell the inpact hit hard at first then it calms down in a few seconds so make sure everything else is right is all im saying
I can tell by the sound which one is slower but it's not enough to swap them out. My fittings dont pop off when I pull back the coupler. I want it to be like the cool duds, how is that done?
How have the aluminum plugs been holding up. I have read where some people have had problems with the aluminum plugs popping loose on their own. I have the high flow V-style myself but have the brass version.
The couplers have been holding up excellent with no leaking or wear whatsoever. A few of the air tools to have extreme vibration I noticed the fittings do have some wear. Like my air hammer for example the steel balls of the coupler start digging in to the retaining ring on the male fitting. I haven't had to change it out since I put it on but if I used the air hammer on a daily / weekly basis I would probably only get a few months. Things like my air check that I use on a daily basis show virtually no wear along with my die grinder etc all look great. The impact gun does show a little bit of wear and would likely only last a few months in a heavy shop environment. I definitely think brass is the way to go but I'm really impressed how will the aluminum ones are holding up.
Thanks for this...wow, yeah a noticeable speed and sound difference. Ok, but why not go right to a H style with the 3/8" body and 1/4" npt threads? Wouldn't that flow even better because not only is the opening larger, but the body as well. Anyway, that is what I am leaning towards doing. WYNNsky has a nice 9 piece kit for under 20 bucks. You could still use your low flow tools with M style couplers with this setup by adding a H plug to a M coupler in front of the line coupler. What do you think?
Milton says 74cfm max for V-Style and 67cfm max for H-Style. Compare that to IM at 40cfm or T at 40cfm as well. I bought some off brand V-Style from Amazon and they had a way smaller drilled hole in the fittings and the coupler was probably 1/2 the internal size holes as the genuine Milton.
Back in the late 70s, A, L, & T were all that were available around here. Ts cost 3 times what the other 2 did, so I went with A. We never saw Ms until Campbell Hasenpfeffer started pushing their crap cheap, so I've always had a bias against M style, too bad, I'll bet that kit isn't $20 up here...
If the restriction is at the tank end, the effect of the friction in the air flow through the length of the hose should have a greater effect on the tool end, even with the high flow fitting on the tool end.
I think with the impact you would notice a difference with the small fittings if they couldn’t bust a nut loose you could with the high flow fittings. I couldn’t get the 33 mm lug nuts off my freight liner with my half inch impact gun but I have a long hose with tiny fittings. Came right off with a nut buster tool
That's pretty cool they offer these. I actually use all Milton M style as well and I just put the male ends in the dril press and open them up a bit. Is the female side a larger diameter as well?
Yes, the Female couple is completely redesigned inside and has tons more flow than a standard coupler. I have drilled them out in the past but didn't feel any improvement as you can only go a tiny bit. I have also done the same inside the coupler but you can't do much in those without compromising the integrity. The standard M fittings has a hole with the surface area of .031sqaure inches; where the V style are .071 square inches. Drilling may get you up to .040 but the V style still flows twice the air.
The problem is the 3/8 hose has a 1/4 ID barb... so whatever the airflow fitting or not, the 1/4 barb is the limit. So it's pretty obvious that even if the coupler after the barb is 70% bigger, it doesn't mean anything. IMO those airflow fittings are most worth it with a 1/2 air line for higher airflow tools. So I'll keep a 1/2 line for high airflow tools and my other 3/8 lines for regular flow. Can all use those V fittings though why not, but I also kept a 3/8 hose with the regular M style coupler just because I have some random low airflow tools that are on it and I,m not changing the coupler of all tools to high airflow for no reason. But I changed the inlet to the V fitting so I can connect to my main compressor hose. Also need to keep a regular hose. So imo those airflow fittings have a purpose only on a 1/2 line with high airflow tools.
You have your measurements all wrong. A 1/4" npt fitting has an internal size of approx 5/16". A standard I/M fitting has an outlet size of around 3/16". So you choke down a 3/8" hose to 3/16". A "V" high flow fitting has an outlet size of 5/16" The same as inlet. So you only choke down a 3/8 hose to 5/16. Which is .071" vs .030 (standard), so more than double the airflow area.
I picked that up for $100 because it was not working. It had oil residue crusted all over the top of it like something had been dripping for years on it. The story was the electric motor shorted out(likely whatever had been dripping on it) and it was retired. They removed this compressor and replaced it with a new one. But they bought a new 3phase motor for it so they could have a backup(but never installed the motor). It just sat for years and finally an employee took it home for a personal shop compressor but couldn't figure out 3phase or what it even was so gave up. He put it up for sale after having it for years for $100. I picked up a used/noisy 7.5hp single phase water pump motor off Ebay for around $300 and replaced the front bearing. I sold the new 7.5hp 3phase motor I bought with the compressor for $400. So other than a little labor I got a compressor for free.
That’s an awesome deal. A deal of a century. The motor was another great find. I checked every 7.5HP water pump motor on Ebay and they are all 3 phase and have prohibitive shipping. I suppose you have 200A service. Can both compressors at the same time? Will one start if the other is running?
@@jheissjr It would be big drain to try and run both at the same time for sure. That Curtis can handle anything I throw at it and doesn't get fired up very often. The 60 gallon Quincy handles most of what I need.
@@jheissjr There was a lot of dumb luck that went into this one. I bought the compressor with the idea is might only be good for a secondary air tank. It took probably 9months to scrounge everything up to put it together.
Been using the high flow fittings for such a long time that I can't remember what the normal fittings are like. Maybe I need to go back for a little bit to experience some disappointment that'll make the hi-flows seem even better
She tried so hard. I came out after 5 minutes and she hadn't touched it so I went back away. 10minutes was just too much time alone with the chicken sandwich.
Hey Moe, I just recently bought that same set from Amazon. The female coupler didn't last for me. They're aluminum right? I think some of my tools have steel fittings that work with the V couplers but wear the couplers out more quickly. I also found that the coupler isn't rebuildable.....well I couldn't get it apart anyway to try to repair it.
They do sell all steel versions of this that would outlast these aluminum. I prefer brass and I'm sure they sell that as well. I took the couplers apart the first day I got them. They were tightly fastened but a 6 point socket on top and a wrench got them apart. These use a simple round oring for sealing to the male half of the coupler. Should be much easier to rebuild these with of the shelf orings vs the special flat washers in typical Milton M couplers.
Your hose acts as a tank and takes a certain amount of time to fill so having an hi-flo fitting will make a substantially larger gain in performance than having the hi-flo at the tool.
Ok great video but I have some questions I'm hoping someone can help with. Apologies for my ignorance but these are the 1/4 plugs how are you using 3/8 hose? I have a mac5200 with a 1/4 quick connect body and 3/8 body coming out of the compressor. So I figured I would use the 3/8 primarily. I figured I would need 3/8 to 3/8 connectors with 3/8 hose but this is proving harder to figure out and find since everything seems to be 3/8 to 1/4 not. 3/8 hose on 1/4 connector is hurting my head 😂 Is the ID of 3/8 hose 1/4 or am I misunderstanding everything?
Lol! She just couldn't stand it, but give her credit, she did wait until you left... Great video and testing Moe, thank you! I like the better flow rate, but the thinner walls of the fittings worries me. I had a fitting break on me while under a car once and the hose end smacked me in the head, leaving a goose egg for a day or three. I'd be even more concerned about that happening again with thinner walled fittings. I think I'll stick with the old heavier walled fittings and just use my 3/8" hose hooked up direct with no couplings when I need the flow. Yours truly, Knothead... P.S. However, thinking about it some more, I bet they are made of better metal these days and you can't beat the price.
That doesn't sound fun. These purple ones are aluminum and though I don't think they would break they will likely ding/nick pretty easily. They do sell the same style in steel for higher strength.
8:00, the spin time is small percentage of the overall work time. So a small increase in efficiency will show as even smaller. The sound and apparent rpm was noticeably less using the standared coupler.
I live in Sweden and can't get these without $30 shipping. I'd pay $100 in shipping, trust me. Sanders and cutters are just different tools with these on and I'm pretty sure I could use my Mirka sander as a planer with 60 grit and some aluminium rails.
I did some tests today.
IMPACT GUNS SPEEDS
4215rpm with I/M style and Automotive Style fittings
5725rpm with V-Style fittings amzn.to/2UcKuTu
DIE GRINDER SPEEDS
3000-5000rpm increase with V-style(tested by ear as the speeds exceed my meters 20,000rpm capacity)
TIP HOLE SIZE FLOW
.031sq inches to flow air with I/M and Automotive fittings
.040sq inches to flow air with hand DRILLED out I/M fittings (backyard high flow)
.071sq inches to flow air with V-Style fittings amzn.to/2UcKuTu
Won't make much of a difference for air blow guns
I've been using the same fittings on all my air tools and have experienced similar results. You can actually hear and feel a vast difference.
I can't believe it took me so long. I have drilled them out in the past but didn't feel any improvement as you can only go a tiny bit. The standard M fittings has a hole with the surface area of .031sqaure inches; where the V style are .071 square inches. Drilling may get you up to .040 but the V style still flows twice the air.
I appreciate you saving everyone's ears by turning down the volume during the impact gun use! 👍
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
The problem is when I bought the red ones before I saw the purple ones
Makes a HUGE difference when painting with a high end HVLP Spray gun, glad I purchased these, for the price, really good value.
these fittings are 100% the way to go. Never going back!
High flow V-style for life. Tremendously better in every way compared to the standard ones. easier to use as well.
My air compressor is fully upgraded with high flow everything and larger 3/8 hose. only a 6 gallon 4.2cfm but still can run anything I throw at it. the bigger stuff can work well in short bursts still too. impact wrenches work well when used in short bursts. doesnt suck too much air.
Good to know as I only have 6 gallon Makita for homeowner type garage and woodworking pneumatic nail punch on hardwood pallets. He made me feel as if I’d need a 60/80 gallon tank. Thank you for sharing.
When I first got my "800 ft. lbs" impact, I tried it with 1/4 coiled air
hose and it would not remove any lug-nut. I thought it was defective.
Changed to a 3/8 hose and now the same impact has removed every lug-nut
I've tried. I look forward to trying the Milton's Hi Flows.
When I first set up my shop I had those 1/4" coils. They're handy but really kill the air flow.
@@sixtyfiveford
I won't ruin it for everyone else , but years ago I got the husky ones at the depot.
I could tell right away because the ol ir2131 barely needed a brap on the lugnuts.
Dual stage at a shop it was awesome , but after I left there I kept it at my (play) shop.
I was bummed about it's performance on a single stage compressor , but the high flow fittings made me feel about 70% better 😆
What I mean is the fittings gave me back what I felt was close to 70% of the performance of running it on a dual stage.
I'm running half inch hose with the milton high flow fittings and it is a huge gap between the 3/8s hose with their fittings to the half inch hose with their fittings
Gotta love it, man and his best friend. He was so dissapointed in himself for letting you down. That is great. I'm gonna get me a set of those high flow miltons. Thanks man for sharing.
It's impressive the difference it made.
When I was visiting a friend's street rod shop (shout out to Big Oak Garage) I noticed that even with air hoses everywhere there were no audible leaks. I asked and he said he used Milton. My Chinese connectors leak all the time even when new. Just got a new compressor and went with the Milton brass V couplers and steel plugs. If I gain some performance that's a bonus. Although I have a generous collection of air tools I mostly blow away chips/sawdust and drive small brads/nails. The main reason I went with the V system is the ease of connecting and disconnecting.
I've been using Milton Hi Flo for over a year now and they are amazing.
I can't believe it took me so long to buy them.
@@sixtyfiveford I made an adapter with a regular connector on one end for the occasion that I use a tool that doesn't have a hi flo end. Although I converted all mine you never know maybe someone loans you a tool without a hi flo.
WOW you're workshop is looking great! And as always you put out a great video. You remain one of the best content putter outers! 😆 🤣
@@sixtyfiveford what's the difference between the M, V, etc?
I used ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell
Miltons are the only brand I've used that don't leak or have excess play. Your filter on your compressor will catch some dirt and oil but will need to be downstream at least 50 ft to catch water. The air exiting the xompressor needs time to cool down which then condensate so the filter will not catch water. This doesn't matter too much if you're not painting but if you want really clean air running through your all your tools then you should relocate the filter and maybe think about a 3 stage. Thanks for the heads up on the v style. Your vids are always super informative!
For the most part here in Utah we have such low humidity it's not a major concern. But painting definitely needs a better dryer system than the tiny one I have.
Not sold on the test methodolgy, but the difference in sound alone is clear. P.S., if you like air tools, buy the harbor frieght extended 4" cutoff tool. Best air I've ever used.
I purchases the same kit from The Home Depot app back in March for $20.82. I bought them along with a brand new air compressor and F.R.L. Upon receiving the couplers, the absolute first thing I noticed was the huge holes! This was the first time seeing them and I do have to say that the airflow is great! Maybe not the full 70% that Milton claims but it's pretty close. I can most definitely tell the difference like you did when you go and use an older coupler. This "V style" purple colored high flow set is the way to go. You won't be disappointed. Many of us have purchased and love em!!!
The high flow fittings is all we use in our paint booths at work. There is a huge difference when we use an adapter in order to spray a small piece out in the shop floor...
But you are right that it wont benefit all air tools.
Good vid!
10/4 on the Miltons and you can HEAR the difference between the regular and Hi-flow. LOTS more power on the hi-flow! Good job!
Such a difference.
@@sixtyfiveford TRUE! I sure like those compressors especially the bigger one. That is a COMPRESSOR!
Went over to 3/8 hoses and Milton Hi-flo "V" style a year ago. Never looked back. The plugs are cheap enough when you buy a pack of 20, to change everything over, the sockets are a bit more expensive but, in my opinion, worth every penny.
I have that same IR 3/4" gun, it's power ratings are with 1/2" air line at 95 psi.
So no doubt would greatly benefit from more air flow over the 1/4" fittings.
I got a set in my Amazon cart!
Thanks
I ran it with a large hose when I got it. It just isn't fun dragging that 1/2" hose around.
Glad you are making money but one reason I liked your videos so much was your relatable junky messy shop. Keep up the great work 💪
Thanks for making this video I work for an abrasive and tool company. As you showed with the cut off tool, these high flow fittings are excellent on cut off tools and 4.5” grinders. They will even make a big difference on your little roloc die grinder too!
LOL, I love the dog scene at the end. The dog puts on such a show of remorse and tries get your sympathy. Hilarious.
Performance never goes out of style...Great video.
Well Said.
Thanks for great vid! I noticed your old "M" style plug seemed to work in the new "V" style socket. Conversely I have had instances where the "V" style plug will not even go into an "M" style socket. If you look carefully and measure, there IS a difference in the "V" and the "M" styles. I saw a vid by some guy that showed a dangerous situation with fittings blowing apart because these 2 slyles don't fit perfectly. Just eyeball them side by side. You can see the difference! Be careful mixing "V" and "M"!
I just ran into this today, high flow doesn't fit normal flow
The Pup was the best part, the hell with the fiitings..
Oh no. First I'll change out the V fittings, then the compressor won't keep up, so I'll need an extra tank or maybe another compressor. Little projects like this have a way of escalating. I like the 1/4" style, so at least you can change out only those devices that need the extra flow. Going to 3/8 will likely work better but would need a broader switch. On the other hand, maybe one could use 3/8 for proximal line, then swap out a distal line with 1/4 V style fittings....
The V style fittings have been since the 90s, I believe. That's how log I've been using them anyhow. My local farm store had run out of M type and a guy I knew said these were the same but with a larger passage. There was no marketing for them, then. Actually, I saw them at the same farm store with normal Milton packaging last week.
The Mac Tools guy even told me thats what is used to spec their impact wrenches.
I had no idea these existed since the 90's
Good to know...
v style are a high maintenance option. The couplers constantly cook off and continuously blast air out until you replace them. They are also a royal pain to connect especially when you use them a bit. I used them for 3 years in my shop and finally had enough to switched to "P" Style fittings and couplers thru out the entire shop and they flow more than the v style and have never had one leak or wear out in over a year now.
We run 160gallons of air at 180 psi unregulated for what its worth.
I've always wondered if they were better, I now know. Great vid.
It's a noticeable improvement.
I just switched over to the HF branded high flow fittings and I absolutely love them and swear by them. The increased flow is very noticeable. Thanks for posting this my Friend! Cheers Moe! Zip~
Not alot of people know it but you can install the V style couplers on you're compressor and hoses and still use the M style fittings in them if you don't have all you're tools changed over yet
Awww your pup at the end was adorable, I felt so bad for him/her! Wanted to give him/her a big hug AND another sandwich hahaha. Great video, thanks for the indepth info and comparison!
She got some fries for her great show.
i used calcium chloride pellets for moisture removal and after 10 years it rottec all of my air tools and all of my lines in a 400 sq foot home shop...I now use tags in a flanged pressure container and it works perfectly...I replaced the tools, switched ($3000) over to plastic lines and high flow fitting, all so that I could do pinion nuts and other high torque fasteners...God bless...doug
I've never heard of Calcium Chloride being used as a desiccant. Luckily we have such low humidity hear it's never a big issue.
@@sixtyfivefordthey use calcium choride on the grid toads in front of peoples yards when the dust gets bad up here it holds the moisture until it gets very hot(rots the body metal as fast as all the salt they use, dadgummit)... I meant to say I used rags , a friend uses an old pair of coveralls and he paints a lot with no probs...I m actually using a stack of paint booth air filters now ...sure enjoy your vids...prepare for the worst and expect the best friend...doug (kanada)
I can tell you from years of working on class 8 trucks hi flow fittings make a big difference.Also that 3/4 impact should have a 1.0 inch hose and a bigger qd.fitting
I did have 1" hose a few years ago. What a pain to drag that around, but dang the gun had power. The hose ended up getting shelved as I mainly only use it for cars so it takes everything off even with the restriction. From time to time I need to pull out the big hose and fittings though.
@@sixtyfiveford Yep for cars and pick ups 1/2 will do. ....and a torch!
I too use the Milton Hi-Flow fittings and I can hear and see a performance difference on my air tools.
I had to laugh that your dog did not eat the pickle, but everything else was completely gone. Pretty funny
Hey Thanks. I have upgraded all but a few non crucial things to the Milton Hi-Flow.
Question for you so I just got new little 175psi compressor but the hose leaks at the end where fitting is tired airing up tire wouldn’t even put 10 psi in tire The tank fills up fine I can feel the air in the hose ain’t got a clue is wrong with it do you?
They work best for high flow applications like sand blasters, and you can really see the difference if you use it for painting cars.
I was also under the impression these were mainly for use with HVLP spray guns. Nice to see they have a little benefit to other tools, as well.
I’ve seen people drill out the tool port itself to gain more power but this is such a simple solution. Although I’ve been getting away from air going to cordless, I still run a 60 gallon with a 21 reserve tank in line so for twenty bux to change over my shop, it’s done deal! Thanks for the heads up! Ginger should get a second chicken sangy based on that cuteness overload alone! 😍✌🏼
I have drilled them out in the past but didn't feel any improvement as you can only go a tiny bit. I have also done the same inside the coupler but you can't do much in those without compromising the integrity. The standard M fittings has a hole with the surface area of .031sqaure inches; where the V style are .071 square inches. Drilling may get you up to .040 but the V style still flows twice the air.
I actually sold off my small 3/8 Snap ON and 1/2 Mid Size impact a few months ago as I replaced them with cordless. My biggest complaint with cordless is they do not feel as solid and vibrate, rattle all over the place to do the same job an air impact does with nice solid hits. Air is like riding in a Cadillac, the cordless is like riding in a covered wagon down a dirt road. Both do the same job, one just beats you up more. I'm keeping the 3/4 Ingersoll and won't replace it with cordless.
sixtyfiveford: I don’t blame you one bit. That 3/4 is a beast and I love that 80 gallon endless supply tank you have too! I had an opportunity to get one of those for free a few years ago while I was hauling steel to a work shop they were renovating, but there was no way I could get that sucker off the trailer if they would’ve put it on with a forklift like they wanted to, oh well my loss. I kinda made up for it grabbing this 60gal Craftsman for pennies cause the owner said “it just stopped working” lol. A new ring kit and it’s building pressure like a champ so an $800 compressor for $40 works for me! Besides, I’m mainly keeping air these days for filling tires and blowing dust dirt and grime off of stuff but also for the wood shop for my brad, finish and framing nailer‘s because who the heck can afford to drop $400 for a new cordless nailer?! (I do have a pasload cordless 6v gas framer that I really like.) The newest dewalt and metabo/hitachi cordless nailers are really sweet too, meh, maybe someday... For now I have to do a complete accountability on all of my air tools so I can get a good count on what I need for connectors to include all the splice points and shut off’s everywhere in the shops and for the outside ports too. Last count was up to $60, but that’s still pretty cheap to ensure all that extra ooomph lol. Enjoy your day brother.✌🏼
I changed all my fittings over to high flow fittings going on 2 yrs ago , they are great specially on older tools , the only draw back is they at that time they didnt make a pressure relief coupler ,the high flow males dont work well with push button releases .i miss pushing the button and waiting just a second for the die grinder to pop off with no pressure behind it or the 50' air hose just falling off without bleeding the pressure off..
I don't know I feel like the easiest way to test this would be to tighten them with the height flow fittings and see if the low flow fittings can loosen them and if not then that means the high flow fitting makes the impact more powerful
these seem to be great...and i like how you can still use standard 1/4 fittings with them also...
That's been one of the greatest features. When ordering this I forgot how many odds and ends(tire chucks etc) I had that have the smaller fittings. They really don't need high flow and have no issue working with the Milton V style.
I just use what ever fitting matches the internal diameter of the hose it’s connected to. My 10mm internal hose has the 10mm internal “euro” style fittings and my bigger 13mm internal hose uses the bigger 3 hole fitting. Once the fittings internal size is at least the size of the hose that’s as good as it gets, bigger than the hose and the hose is still the biggest restricter.
Hose size is very important.
That's what she said... Lol!
Keep in mind the restriction is in the coupling where the air has to go through turns and passages. I've seen at least 2 completely different V-style couplers (Milton and ???). I know all the paint shops moved from the V to a $28 coupler system (I think Provost is one) - I don't know anything about these $$$ coupler/plug systems.
Wonder if it would make a difference if compressor is only rated at 5 cfm
Would have been interesting to see a comparison of the tool hard lined onto the hose too. My buddy has a shop with a few hose reels with tools permanently installed on them.
I ordered some of those they should be here today my impact gun will not remove lug nuts off of my truck hoping this will help
I just want ones that don't leak, I think I have a mish mash of connectors. Your Shop looks so clean and cool.
Thanks, I've been trying to clean up the shop. Leaking couplers drive me nuts. Miltons are the only ones that seam to last.
I can commiserate with Ginger.
I would have ate that chicken sandwich too.
would have EATEN that sandwich ...
@@ericleger8158 You have fulfilled the purpose of your life.
You have no reason to continue to live.
Although you never really had one either.
Chicken sandwich? Nope no chicken sandwich to see here. LOL
#metoo
@@ericleger8158 I would of went or gone, ate that chicken sandwich myself too.
Are these fittings required at all points along the line or just at the end of the line? Would love to hear your input. Thanks!
Hi. Do you think Flexzilla rubber hybrid air hose is a better hose than your Goodyear rubber in this video? Also, I see some WYNNsky amd JACO high flow air fittings on Amazon. Any good? Comparable quality to Milton, or stay away? Thank you very much.
Try torquing the nuts with the high flow fittings, and see if you can can get them off with the regular fittings. My thought is that more air flow allows it to hit harder, therefore tighter. Lower flow shouldn’t be able to break it free.
The only problem with that logic is that the break away reverse torque hits differently than the forward torque. It would not work, trust me. For example on a 2235TiMax, forward torque is 870 ft. lbs, but reverse busting torque is 1760 ft. lbs. He even said the same thing in the video 9:00.
I had always wondered since You lead hose from the compressor, air hose itself the opening is standard. Should the inlets and outlets be drilled out to match the high flow fitting diameter to get the most out of it?
I'm using the type of quick couplers that have a button on the side to release them, Then the ones on the wall I use the regular old style ones.
I almost bought the Prevost style couplers a few times. The push button is very handy.
I was going to comment about the subject at hand but as soon as I saw that "I'm sorry I ate the sandwich" face I forget what just happened.
She tried so hard. After 5 minutes she hadn't touched it but 10 minutes was just too long to wait.
How are the high flow holding out.? Being Aluminum body.
They come in brass and steel as well. The one in my air hammer is beat up as it takes so much vibration but the others are all good. I haven't had to replace any yet, but I did buy a 3 pack of brass for $4 to swap the air hammer.
I just picked up a compressor recently and didn't know what fittings and what size to go with it being a ridgid tristack 5 gallon I think but could be wrong on that wanna go with 3/8 but whats on there i don't know if the couplers leak so I may go ahead and replace them with brand new ones im gonna have to see what size it has on it
Loved the video! Great dog! and truck!!
It looks like these fittings are just far to soft. Lots of failures when used on impact tools, such as hammers, scalers, impact wrenches, etc.
Its the same issue as using brass, and Milton knows this!!! These fittings should be made of steel.
For a hobbyist that only uses a impact 1-2 times per month this might be sufficient. But if your in a shop setting, just get the 3/8 steel fittings.
They make these exact style fittings in brass and steel as well. I put a steel on my impact hammer.
The Ting is you have still a big hose and the good fittings on your tank... inmagin the difference with all standart parts...
I live in germany and have the standart NW 7,2... (7,2mm inside ) i dont know if it is compatibile but i reely would like to use them.
Now i only have a big hose (12mm/ 1/2 inch inner diameter) connected to the 1/2 inch port to my compressor... and only that make a difference over 1 Bar at the end of the hose vs the 6mm hose.
Great info, thanks! Looks like I will be switching over . You always have such awesome ends to your videos, but this one tops the cake! Stay well!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Thank you for the video. good comparisons and glad you listed everything you used in the test.
Glad it was helpful! These are awesome.
So when using my 1200 ft lb impact gun I have to have high flow all the way from the tank to every fitting all the way to the tool.. I have a 3-way manifold connected to a regular low-flow connector at the tank and 350 ft sections of hose in the manifold everything is low-flow connector.. if I want to use one of the hoses strictly for my impact gun can I just put a high-flow male on one end and a high-flow quick connect on the other end and a high-flow mail in my impact gun? Or will the manifold and the low-flow Quick Connect that the manifold is plugged into at the tank reduce my air flow? I only use my gun when I rotate my tires or do my brakes I am no kind of mechanic.. no I do use my die grinder to sharpen my riding tractor blades
If i get the hi flow fittings on the coupler can i mix and match? Or do i have to have high flow with high flow? Also do they just press in easy or do i have to press the collar down on the coupler to get it to fit?
I think I might need some of these connectors. Good test and quite convincing, especially on the cutoff wheel. Thanks Moe
My cheap cutoff die grinder has never spun so fast.
I have a 20 gallon tank and cannot remove my 150 lb torque lug nut on f150. I might try buying the high velocity coupling but cannot imagine it working. But u never know.
Alright, my question is do the hi flow fittings hold up as well as the OG fittings, I know the cheap aluminum hi flow fittings that come on an impact from the tool truck that come in all the fun colors brake in a week of use swap it to a Milton and you’re good for a decent amount of time.
Its all about CFM. How much air is your tool using
Do I need to change the female coupler that came installed on the tank from the manufacture?
I'm going to make up a gauge I can put at the end of my line and watch presure drop.
How do those compare against Flexzilla high flow fittings?
They're close but still not as good. They have a smaller hole opening
.031sq inches to flow air with I/M and Automotive fittings
.071sq inches to flow air with Milton V-Style fittings
.069sq inches to flow air with Flexzilla.
That's only the male fitting. The coupler is a whole different story. Most of the Chinese knock offs have a plug that covers the inlet when a fitting is plugged in. So they are worse than a regular IM fitting. I bought a few other brands after the video to just see and they all are worse(Amazon Basics, Harbor Freight Hi Flow, and two others). Just go with Milton and you won't be disappointed.
Bought some by mistake. Guess I'll give them a try.
I bought 2 of those purple kits that you bought. I love them.
Ya we had an air hose that i gues was collapsed or had some restriction in the hose you could tell the inpact hit hard at first then it calms down in a few seconds so make sure everything else is right is all im saying
When most of the comments are about the dog at the end. This friggin year man.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Good video and info. No dog is going to hold back from chicken when the coast is clear.
I can tell by the sound which one is slower but it's not enough to swap them out.
My fittings dont pop off when I pull back the coupler. I want it to be like the cool duds, how is that done?
At least he left you the pickle.
Great video as always
Nothing like a seat pickle.
How have the aluminum plugs been holding up. I have read where some people have had problems with the aluminum plugs popping loose on their own. I have the high flow V-style myself but have the brass version.
The couplers have been holding up excellent with no leaking or wear whatsoever. A few of the air tools to have extreme vibration I noticed the fittings do have some wear. Like my air hammer for example the steel balls of the coupler start digging in to the retaining ring on the male fitting. I haven't had to change it out since I put it on but if I used the air hammer on a daily / weekly basis I would probably only get a few months. Things like my air check that I use on a daily basis show virtually no wear along with my die grinder etc all look great. The impact gun does show a little bit of wear and would likely only last a few months in a heavy shop environment. I definitely think brass is the way to go but I'm really impressed how will the aluminum ones are holding up.
So can you put high flow coupler directly on your compressor? Can they be metal or do they have to be brass?
I have high flo on my compressor
Thanks for this...wow, yeah a noticeable speed and sound difference. Ok, but why not go right to a H style with the 3/8" body and 1/4" npt threads? Wouldn't that flow even better because not only is the opening larger, but the body as well. Anyway, that is what I am leaning towards doing. WYNNsky has a nice 9 piece kit for under 20 bucks. You could still use your low flow tools with M style couplers with this setup by adding a H plug to a M coupler in front of the line coupler. What do you think?
Milton says 74cfm max for V-Style and 67cfm max for H-Style. Compare that to IM at 40cfm or T at 40cfm as well. I bought some off brand V-Style from Amazon and they had a way smaller drilled hole in the fittings and the coupler was probably 1/2 the internal size holes as the genuine Milton.
can you use the v's on a universal or m type
Oh, the guilt on his face! I love it! 💖😁. And by the way, good video!
The guilt was hilarious. Poor Ginger.
More important than the size of your tank is how many stages does the compressor have.
Back in the late 70s, A, L, & T were all that were available around here. Ts cost 3 times what the other 2 did, so I went with A. We never saw Ms until Campbell Hasenpfeffer started pushing their crap cheap, so I've always had a bias against M style, too bad, I'll bet that kit isn't $20 up here...
If the restriction is at the tank end, the effect of the friction in the air flow through the length of the hose should have a greater effect on the tool end, even with the high flow fitting on the tool end.
True.
brand or color air compressors
Ive beem using Milton hi flow purple coupler dor sometime now ant i haven't amd wont ever look back
I think with the impact you would notice a difference with the small fittings if they couldn’t bust a nut loose you could with the high flow fittings. I couldn’t get the 33 mm lug nuts off my freight liner with my half inch impact gun but I have a long hose with tiny fittings. Came right off with a nut buster tool
You're playing with big lug nuts.
That's pretty cool they offer these. I actually use all Milton M style as well and I just put the male ends in the dril press and open them up a bit. Is the female side a larger diameter as well?
Yes, the Female couple is completely redesigned inside and has tons more flow than a standard coupler. I have drilled them out in the past but didn't feel any improvement as you can only go a tiny bit. I have also done the same inside the coupler but you can't do much in those without compromising the integrity. The standard M fittings has a hole with the surface area of .031sqaure inches; where the V style are .071 square inches. Drilling may get you up to .040 but the V style still flows twice the air.
The problem is the 3/8 hose has a 1/4 ID barb... so whatever the airflow fitting or not, the 1/4 barb is the limit. So it's pretty obvious that even if the coupler after the barb is 70% bigger, it doesn't mean anything.
IMO those airflow fittings are most worth it with a 1/2 air line for higher airflow tools. So I'll keep a 1/2 line for high airflow tools and my other 3/8 lines for regular flow. Can all use those V fittings though why not, but I also kept a 3/8 hose with the regular M style coupler just because I have some random low airflow tools that are on it and I,m not changing the coupler of all tools to high airflow for no reason. But I changed the inlet to the V fitting so I can connect to my main compressor hose. Also need to keep a regular hose.
So imo those airflow fittings have a purpose only on a 1/2 line with high airflow tools.
You have your measurements all wrong. A 1/4" npt fitting has an internal size of approx 5/16". A standard I/M fitting has an outlet size of around 3/16". So you choke down a 3/8" hose to 3/16". A "V" high flow fitting has an outlet size of 5/16" The same as inlet. So you only choke down a 3/8 hose to 5/16. Which is .071" vs .030 (standard), so more than double the airflow area.
The Curtis compressor is awesome. What is the history of the machine? Where did you find the single phase 7.5 HP motor?
I picked that up for $100 because it was not working. It had oil residue crusted all over the top of it like something had been dripping for years on it. The story was the electric motor shorted out(likely whatever had been dripping on it) and it was retired. They removed this compressor and replaced it with a new one. But they bought a new 3phase motor for it so they could have a backup(but never installed the motor). It just sat for years and finally an employee took it home for a personal shop compressor but couldn't figure out 3phase or what it even was so gave up. He put it up for sale after having it for years for $100. I picked up a used/noisy 7.5hp single phase water pump motor off Ebay for around $300 and replaced the front bearing. I sold the new 7.5hp 3phase motor I bought with the compressor for $400. So other than a little labor I got a compressor for free.
That’s an awesome deal. A deal of a century. The motor was another great find. I checked every 7.5HP water pump motor on Ebay and they are all 3 phase and have prohibitive shipping. I suppose you have 200A service. Can both compressors at the same time? Will one start if the other is running?
@@jheissjr It would be big drain to try and run both at the same time for sure. That Curtis can handle anything I throw at it and doesn't get fired up very often. The 60 gallon Quincy handles most of what I need.
Thanks!
@@jheissjr There was a lot of dumb luck that went into this one. I bought the compressor with the idea is might only be good for a secondary air tank. It took probably 9months to scrounge everything up to put it together.
Been using the high flow fittings for such a long time that I can't remember what the normal fittings are like. Maybe I need to go back for a little bit to experience some disappointment that'll make the hi-flows seem even better
Thanks for the info and Heelers just can't help themselves.
Are these 1/4in threads or 3/8in?
Ginger couldn't resist. I don't blame her. 🤣🤣🤣
She tried so hard. I came out after 5 minutes and she hadn't touched it so I went back away. 10minutes was just too much time alone with the chicken sandwich.
Hey Moe, I just recently bought that same set from Amazon. The female coupler didn't last for me. They're aluminum right? I think some of my tools have steel fittings that work with the V couplers but wear the couplers out more quickly. I also found that the coupler isn't rebuildable.....well I couldn't get it apart anyway to try to repair it.
They do sell all steel versions of this that would outlast these aluminum. I prefer brass and I'm sure they sell that as well. I took the couplers apart the first day I got them. They were tightly fastened but a 6 point socket on top and a wrench got them apart. These use a simple round oring for sealing to the male half of the coupler. Should be much easier to rebuild these with of the shelf orings vs the special flat washers in typical Milton M couplers.
Your hose acts as a tank and takes a certain amount of time to fill so having an hi-flo fitting will make a substantially larger gain in performance than having the hi-flo at the tool.
Can I just drill out my regular fittings
Interesting, I would imagine that you can, but I would check online first for first hand reader's accounts to see if it worked well for them 😊🌎✨
You need to start a new channel...call it Mo'Ginger...all about the pup!
Ok great video but I have some questions I'm hoping someone can help with. Apologies for my ignorance but these are the 1/4 plugs how are you using 3/8 hose?
I have a mac5200 with a 1/4 quick connect body and 3/8 body coming out of the compressor. So I figured I would use the 3/8 primarily.
I figured I would need 3/8 to 3/8 connectors with 3/8 hose but this is proving harder to figure out and find since everything seems to be 3/8 to 1/4 not. 3/8 hose on 1/4 connector is hurting my head 😂
Is the ID of 3/8 hose 1/4 or am I misunderstanding everything?
3/8" hose is the inside diameter. 1/4" npt fitting is the thread size and has an actual external size of around 1/2" and an approx ID of 1/4".
@@sixtyfiveford thanks, I thought using 3/8 hose with 1/4 plugs seemed odd. I guess it doesn't introduce any bottleneck?
I think I'd go for the brass over aluminum.
Lol! She just couldn't stand it, but give her credit, she did wait until you left...
Great video and testing Moe, thank you!
I like the better flow rate, but the thinner walls of the fittings worries me. I had a fitting break on me while under a car once and the hose end smacked me in the head, leaving a goose egg for a day or three. I'd be even more concerned about that happening again with thinner walled fittings. I think I'll stick with the old heavier walled fittings and just use my 3/8" hose hooked up direct with no couplings when I need the flow.
Yours truly, Knothead...
P.S. However, thinking about it some more, I bet they are made of better metal these days and you can't beat the price.
That doesn't sound fun. These purple ones are aluminum and though I don't think they would break they will likely ding/nick pretty easily. They do sell the same style in steel for higher strength.
It depends on the tool. You will notice night and day difference with a sand blaster cabinet.
8:00, the spin time is small percentage of the overall work time. So a small increase in efficiency will show as even smaller. The sound and apparent rpm was noticeably less using the standared coupler.
The feel in your hand while using the tool shows an impressive difference.
I live in Sweden and can't get these without $30 shipping.
I'd pay $100 in shipping, trust me. Sanders and cutters are just different tools with these on and I'm pretty sure I could use my Mirka sander as a planer with 60 grit and some aluminium rails.
Now we know facts. Thanks