PSA: I’ve owned this mouse for about a year and I’ve owned multiple steelseries products for several years now and I’ve owned a couple cheap sub no name $40 ‘MMO’ mice that are very similar to this aerox 9 with multiple programmable buttons etc. This and one of my steelseries headphones (Arctis 7 I believe) which I also bought about a year ago are by far the most problematic computer peripherals I’ve ever owned. The scroll wheel on this mouse ‘broke’ within a month or two and will scroll in random directions randomly and what I mean by that is that if you scroll up it’ll scroll both up and down simultaneously or rather alternate up and down every couple scroll ‘actions’ but then if you mash it down and move it around and basically act like you’re trying to break it then it’ll temporarily fix it sometimes but it’ll mess up again the same day and it’s a constant back and forth and it’s a wide spread issue if you read reviews which are now low 3 stars and seem to indicate that steelseries still hasn’t fixed the issue even on new production units. My headphones are mostly just having issues disconnecting and reconnecting and stuff like that but I don’t have that issue on my other wireless steelseries headphones that I’ve owned for years. I’m done buying steelseries products for now, I like their products and software but the quality seems to be going downhill. Also I think some of the issues could have something to do with the firmware because since I was out of warranty period anyway I took the mouse apart and inspected the scroll wheel and electronics (I’m decent at fixing stuff) and the design of the scroll wheel assembly is just asking for problems but with that said I couldn’t find anything blatantly wrong but inside the potentiometer (thing that senses scrolling) it look like it’s internals are plastic and when scrolling almost feels like the plastic ’teeth’ inside it are worn down but once you smash it and all that then it doesn’t feel mushy and worn down and also usually temporary fixes the issue but if the plastic teeth were worn down then mashing it down would theoretically make it worse not fix it so it just doesn’t make any sense from what I’m able to test without something like an oscilloscope unless the software/firmware is misreading inputs or something which **could** account for both the headphone and mouse issues since the mouse is also having connection issues just not as bad as the headphones. I just bought a redragon m913 wireless as a $40 replacement and it’s coming in today so what I’m going to do is get it set up then take apart my aerox 9 and a cheap steelseries mouse I also have and see if they use a similar scroll wheel set up and if they do then I’m going desolder each of them and swap them then test each of them out and I’ll take a video of all of it and if it works then I’ll post it whenever I get time.
I have the exact same scroll wheel issue with my Corsair Scimitar, which I wanted to replace ... . So thanks for the heads up, that would royaly piss me off, if I had the same issue with the replacement mouse :D
These day I prefer less buttons on a mouse and mapping the modifier keys (shift, control, alt) onto the mouse to make my keybinds. When 12 button mice were new you couldn't program modifier buttons onto mice so the more buttons the better.
After having two Razer Naga Pro failures in like 6-7 months, and the scimitar scroll wheel plastic just breaking, I was hoping that this would be it in terms of a wireless MMO mouse solution. I'm back with the G600 for the time being.
my naga pro v1 mmo attachment, the 4 button wouldn't register all the time and if it did i had to press the button in a specific spot was extremely frustrating as i love the mice
I tried to like MMO mice. I tried several of them. Controller is just more comfortable to me and cramps my hands less, and I have less missed inputs. My favorite of the ones I tried though was the razer naga x, the size/weight/position of the side buttons felt best to me. Other ones I tried were the aerox 9 (honestly hated it), logitech g600 (2nd favorite), corsair scimitar elite (had problems tracking, randomly jumped around although looking back it may not have liked my mouse pad), redragon m908 was not bad, but naga x was better. I used to use a dualshock 4 controller on pc but now I'm using the 8bitdo ultimate and I love it. I still use a standard mouse and keyboard a lot though for inventory and market board.
Yeah I am kind of thinking the same. And I could get 3 (and a half ish) red dragon mice for the price of one Aerox. And the red dragon comes in white! I wish my Logitech would just live forever!
Thanks. My Logitech g600 lasted 15 years but has been discontinued. I'm swearing off all Logitech gear until they bring it back. 6 years, good sign. Any issues with software?
Reddragon is terrible, heavy and very big overall. And the biggest downside is how big latency is when u press buttons. Its very noticable when you compre it with any mouse nowdays
In the search for *THE* mmo mouse I bought one of these. I hated the lightweight design, it makes it feel cheap and I just enjoy a weighted mouse. The biggest issue though was the side buttons being sized for a 7yr old, there was no way I could push one button without pressing others. Wireless is also an immediate negative for me, having to stop what you're doing to charge something sucks.
My search stopped with the Scimitar Wireless. Full charge lasts a couple of days of constant use for me. So I just plug it in every other night before bed and all good.
yeah, I have no idea why they make these so small. every single one of these MMO mouses are ridiculously tiny. razer naga is trash too. it's absurd how small and fragile the buttons are. why won't anyone make a man-sized mouse?
I've mained this mouse for a couple of years now and only use up to 7 of the 12 side buttons. I still think Aerox 9 is the closest we get to endgame in the MMO segment right now, but it is not perfect. Hoping for a v2 soon.
To put my two cents in, I would avoid Razer like the plague nowadays. I've recently been testing out alternatives because I've had *four* Nagas fail in the past two years and I just cannot look past a failure rate like that, even if they've all been replaced under warranty. It is unfortunate that this doesn't sound like a contender, but hopefully SteelSeries can fix the issues.
I bought this mouse because I had wanted to go wireless from the Naga X I was using and wanted to try giving Steelseries a try. Honestly couldn't use it, the side buttons were way too stiff and as someone with big hands, I could not find any position where I could comfortably hit every button reliably. Any spot where I could at least reach them all, made some of them hard to press in without significant force. Overall hated it, returned it for a Naga Pro V2 and love it. I swap out the 12 button side when I'm not playing FFXIV to have a lighter feel. I've also tried the Scimitar but wasn't personally a fan. I wanted to avoid Razer because their stuff breaks easy, but unfortunately I just haven't found anything else as comfortable to use. Too bad most companies don't seem too interested in being competitive or innovative with MMO mice.
I wish there were more MMO mice to choose from, or at least more varied options. MMOs being such a stagnant genre, demand must be pretty low. I have had quite a few different ones over the years, with my favorites being some of the original nagas. They were smaller, had the index finger buttons for mouse 4 and 5, and seemed to have better build quality than modern ones too. Currently, I seldom use an MMO mouse because I only dabble in GW2 here and there, but when I do, I use my Roccat Nyth. I don't even think they sell those anymore, but honestly, that feels like my best option currently. Very unique mouse, that is highly customizable versus the rest, I wish it were wireless and not so heavy though. Ideally, I want a mouse on the small side, lightweight, wireless, with mouse buttons 4 and 5 like the old nagas, or the nyth, which has a 2 button switch that sits between your index and middle finger. Nothing seems to meet that criteria. Was hoping the "glorious PC gaming" company would make one eventually, so I could at least get the same form factor as my current (non MMO) mouse, the Model D.
I've owned several glorious mice, currently have a gravastar aliminum shell mouse. They don't get as dirty as you think. Not gonna lie I think these mice are made for people with carpal tunnel. I can tell the difference between my heavy corsair scimitar and a light mouse. Hand hurts alot less after hours of use.
I picked one up a replacement for a scimitar elite. I wanted to go wireless. It was packed back up and marked for return within 2 hours of unboxing. I feel the side buttons are in an uncomfortable position, weirdly angled and unnecessarily stiff. Incredibly uncomfortable design. Not too long after this couple of months maybe, Corsair dropped the Scimitar Wireless. While iCUE is shite, the mouse is fantastic.
@Manchild_Gaming The side panel buttons on the Scimitar models can be slid further forward or backward, allowing you to customize it to your hand size and mouse grip. The panel is tightened or loosened by tightening or loosening a nut on the bottom of the mouse with an included alan key. The Scimitar RGB Elite is my go to and I cannot recommend it enough
Out of curiosity, which MMO mouse is your favorite? I've owned multiples of both the Razer Naga and the Logitech G600 - all of which had varying durability problems after a year or so of use. My latest is the Corsair Scimitar; which has started having scroll wheel problems after about six months of use.
If not for the wierd random disconnect i think i like the Aerox the most. I havent used the scimitar and its been forever since ive laid hands on a g600
I prefer heavier Mice. But in all honesty I have yet to come across a better mouse for MMO's than the Logitech G600. That extra mouse button for binding to ctrl/shift or useing it as their G-shift key just makes things just so much easier. Sadly there is no wireless version cause having logitech airplay tech with this mouse be amazing.
@@Manchild_Gaming that mouse also looks fantastic I was considering that one as well as the Aerox 9 and the scimitar pro wireless. The Aerox 9 checks all the boxes especially with the weight differences between all three but hearing about the random d/c’s kind of scares me from trying it out.
@@Manchild_Gaming I’m gonna pick one up today and if I experience the same issues I’ll return it for a Naga but unfortunately last night my scroll wheel died on my Scimitar Pro randomly in M1S and we still have prog tonight x.x. Ty for the recommendation I’ll let you know how it goes by tomorrow if I end up returning it or keeping it.
@@Predator0113m Its a shame the battery actually lasts forever too i feel like compared to the naga. I assume you switched it back to factory and had good results?
@@Manchild_Gaming You cannot switch it back after you do a firmware update. I ended up sending it back to warranty and they sent me a new one. I haven't done the firmware update and it has been flawless since. Zero disconnects or weird stuff.
@@Predator0113m haha crazy, Yeah thats wonky AF. Im tempted to give it a third try because i really hate the weight and recharge time, but im past my return window for the naga so we shall see. Thx for shareing your experience with it.
@@Manchild_Gaming First one the mouse wheel crapped out within a few weeks, the second one the left clicker started to stick. I havent had a chance to RMA the second one yet. I mean its a SUPER good mouse when it works but both of these I got at a local best buy. I cleaned and did can of airs on both of them but no dice.
I actually think the holes help keep your hand cooler. There is supposedly some moister deterring technology, which is probably BS, but their website boasts it keeps moister and dust out.
Ouchy, this mouse seems like trash tier if you take it for what it is. Disconnection issue is a non-starter for even a $2 mouse. You don't want to be in an intense raid and BAM, you disconnect, you die -- or even stop being able to act for 5 seconds critical failure unless you keep to all 'easy/normal" content in FFXIV. Even if you are sticking to that, any peripheral that locks up, freezes, or stop working for any perceievable period of time that disrupts my sensation that the thing is working smoothly is a massive problem, especially when it's intermittent. Moving onto other things is still pretty sad for this mouse, even if you assume no disconnect issues: Lightweight is simply not useful for a mouse. People who have wrist issues with mice is because of their form factor that forces you to have ulnar deviation (rotated arm because your wrist is at a angle). Even though based on physics, you are doing "more work" to start and stop a heavier mouse as you move it, the weight any mouse that isn't made of heavy medals is well within any person or child operating with perfect control, and low effort all day. What matters is how smooth the slide is --- the skates and your own hand, arm, or fingers that touch the mouse pad or other surface. Those can be the cause of a massive difference between the amount of force (effort) it takes to move your mouse from being still compared to keeping it moving and cause unstable and jittery movement. The button layout is also horrible: although it is an unfortunate "standard" when it comes to MMO mice I have personal experience with the layout via the Corsair Scimitar. Your thumb is a crucial part of controlling mouse movement and you do so only when you have confident grip with it. If you put that many buttons on the side with a reasonable size, it'll mean reaching the back/rear row makes your thumb grip kind of "crunched in" and to reach the forward row you are stretching. There's even an annoying variance around the top and bottom row vertically. It's trivial to feel this out and you easily find the buttons your thumb feels comfortable pressing quickly and confidently and it'll likely be 2-3 at most, and the other buttons, you'll have to hunt. Yes, you can learn it over time but I still know the layout is the problem. You should really check out the SwiftpointZ. No, I don't work for them, just an extremely happy owner for 5+ years, and just upgraded to the Z2. Virtually nothing changed; I just wanted it new and cleaner. The mouse has more buttons, and more functions (force sensitive deep click threholds on 4 of the most easy buttons), all in very separate and intuitive places to access them -- all without forcing you into awkward stretches or grips that are counter to your thumb being where it needs to be to control the mouse movement 100% of the time. The only reason this mouse doesn't seem to be the stupidly clear choice is brand recognition, price, the mouse does so much some reviewers hammer it thinking they need to try to use some of it's more unique features to the fullest. Also, minor suggestion for your usage of any MMO mouse: I think you have greater gains when you dedicate shifting over modifier keys entirely to the mouse -- before moving any direct hotkeys there. Most people find it really easy to hit 4-7 keys around WASD movement, but when you also have to hit a modifier with them, far less trivial. Putting the modifier on your right hand syncs up really nice and gives you back a lot better movement because you're dropping the pinky stretches and feeling so much more confident around all keypresses even when modifiers are pressed. Think about it this way: every modifier you can put on the mouse, multiplies the number of keys you have access to on your left hand.
@@Manchild_Gaming Yeah, I was surprised to hear "lightweight" being pitched as such a pro, since I'm used to mice with adjustable weight kits 😅 But to your point, different preferences for different people. Nowadays I think I'd love a lightweight mouse, especially if it offered some extra airflow to my sweaty gamer hands
Horrific quality. First wheel started misbehaving in couple of months. Though I was the one at fault. Bought a second one...in 2 months, same issue. NEVER again.
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PSA: I’ve owned this mouse for about a year and I’ve owned multiple steelseries products for several years now and I’ve owned a couple cheap sub no name $40 ‘MMO’ mice that are very similar to this aerox 9 with multiple programmable buttons etc. This and one of my steelseries headphones (Arctis 7 I believe) which I also bought about a year ago are by far the most problematic computer peripherals I’ve ever owned.
The scroll wheel on this mouse ‘broke’ within a month or two and will scroll in random directions randomly and what I mean by that is that if you scroll up it’ll scroll both up and down simultaneously or rather alternate up and down every couple scroll ‘actions’ but then if you mash it down and move it around and basically act like you’re trying to break it then it’ll temporarily fix it sometimes but it’ll mess up again the same day and it’s a constant back and forth and it’s a wide spread issue if you read reviews which are now low 3 stars and seem to indicate that steelseries still hasn’t fixed the issue even on new production units.
My headphones are mostly just having issues disconnecting and reconnecting and stuff like that but I don’t have that issue on my other wireless steelseries headphones that I’ve owned for years.
I’m done buying steelseries products for now, I like their products and software but the quality seems to be going downhill.
Also I think some of the issues could have something to do with the firmware because since I was out of warranty period anyway I took the mouse apart and inspected the scroll wheel and electronics (I’m decent at fixing stuff) and the design of the scroll wheel assembly is just asking for problems but with that said I couldn’t find anything blatantly wrong but inside the potentiometer (thing that senses scrolling) it look like it’s internals are plastic and when scrolling almost feels like the plastic ’teeth’ inside it are worn down but once you smash it and all that then it doesn’t feel mushy and worn down and also usually temporary fixes the issue but if the plastic teeth were worn down then mashing it down would theoretically make it worse not fix it so it just doesn’t make any sense from what I’m able to test without something like an oscilloscope unless the software/firmware is misreading inputs or something which **could** account for both the headphone and mouse issues since the mouse is also having connection issues just not as bad as the headphones.
I just bought a redragon m913 wireless as a $40 replacement and it’s coming in today so what I’m going to do is get it set up then take apart my aerox 9 and a cheap steelseries mouse I also have and see if they use a similar scroll wheel set up and if they do then I’m going desolder each of them and swap them then test each of them out and I’ll take a video of all of it and if it works then I’ll post it whenever I get time.
I have the exact same scroll wheel issue with my Corsair Scimitar, which I wanted to replace ... . So thanks for the heads up, that would royaly piss me off, if I had the same issue with the replacement mouse :D
These day I prefer less buttons on a mouse and mapping the modifier keys (shift, control, alt) onto the mouse to make my keybinds. When 12 button mice were new you couldn't program modifier buttons onto mice so the more buttons the better.
After having two Razer Naga Pro failures in like 6-7 months, and the scimitar scroll wheel plastic just breaking, I was hoping that this would be it in terms of a wireless MMO mouse solution. I'm back with the G600 for the time being.
My scroll wheel scrolls 2 down and then one up on the Corsair one too.
my naga pro v1 mmo attachment, the 4 button wouldn't register all the time and if it did i had to press the button in a specific spot was extremely frustrating as i love the mice
the random d/c saddens me you were the chosen one AEROX 9! ! !
I was also heart broken it was my favorite mouse so far. The weight difference is huuuggeee. But you may not have that problem. You could give it a go
18 button is 2 less than my very old g600 which is on its last legs. I did look at this one, thanks for the review.
Same here G600 is a true Warriors
I tried to like MMO mice. I tried several of them. Controller is just more comfortable to me and cramps my hands less, and I have less missed inputs. My favorite of the ones I tried though was the razer naga x, the size/weight/position of the side buttons felt best to me. Other ones I tried were the aerox 9 (honestly hated it), logitech g600 (2nd favorite), corsair scimitar elite (had problems tracking, randomly jumped around although looking back it may not have liked my mouse pad), redragon m908 was not bad, but naga x was better. I used to use a dualshock 4 controller on pc but now I'm using the 8bitdo ultimate and I love it. I still use a standard mouse and keyboard a lot though for inventory and market board.
Just get the Redragon MMO mouse. It's cheap, and it's still going strong for me 6 years later.
Yeah I am kind of thinking the same. And I could get 3 (and a half ish) red dragon mice for the price of one Aerox. And the red dragon comes in white! I wish my Logitech would just live forever!
Thanks. My Logitech g600 lasted 15 years but has been discontinued. I'm swearing off all Logitech gear until they bring it back.
6 years, good sign. Any issues with software?
this is how i find out the g600 has been discontinued
Reddragon is terrible, heavy and very big overall. And the biggest downside is how big latency is when u press buttons. Its very noticable when you compre it with any mouse nowdays
@@lowdetails I just got one and it feels fine to me. If it doesn't break in 1-2 years, it's infinitely better than a Razer by default.
I really miss the Logitech G6. It was large and heavy but I've got really big hands so it fit and worked perfectly.
In the search for *THE* mmo mouse I bought one of these. I hated the lightweight design, it makes it feel cheap and I just enjoy a weighted mouse. The biggest issue though was the side buttons being sized for a 7yr old, there was no way I could push one button without pressing others. Wireless is also an immediate negative for me, having to stop what you're doing to charge something sucks.
My search stopped with the Scimitar Wireless. Full charge lasts a couple of days of constant use for me. So I just plug it in every other night before bed and all good.
yeah, I have no idea why they make these so small. every single one of these MMO mouses are ridiculously tiny. razer naga is trash too. it's absurd how small and fragile the buttons are. why won't anyone make a man-sized mouse?
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol if they are bigger, how they can fit so many buttons?
I've mained this mouse for a couple of years now and only use up to 7 of the 12 side buttons. I still think Aerox 9 is the closest we get to endgame in the MMO segment right now, but it is not perfect. Hoping for a v2 soon.
I have 3 of these and have never had disconnection issues. But the mouse needs to stay directly in line with the dongle at all time.
Take a look at the new wow edition of it!
To put my two cents in, I would avoid Razer like the plague nowadays. I've recently been testing out alternatives because I've had *four* Nagas fail in the past two years and I just cannot look past a failure rate like that, even if they've all been replaced under warranty.
It is unfortunate that this doesn't sound like a contender, but hopefully SteelSeries can fix the issues.
I bought this mouse because I had wanted to go wireless from the Naga X I was using and wanted to try giving Steelseries a try. Honestly couldn't use it, the side buttons were way too stiff and as someone with big hands, I could not find any position where I could comfortably hit every button reliably. Any spot where I could at least reach them all, made some of them hard to press in without significant force.
Overall hated it, returned it for a Naga Pro V2 and love it. I swap out the 12 button side when I'm not playing FFXIV to have a lighter feel. I've also tried the Scimitar but wasn't personally a fan. I wanted to avoid Razer because their stuff breaks easy, but unfortunately I just haven't found anything else as comfortable to use. Too bad most companies don't seem too interested in being competitive or innovative with MMO mice.
I wish there were more MMO mice to choose from, or at least more varied options. MMOs being such a stagnant genre, demand must be pretty low. I have had quite a few different ones over the years, with my favorites being some of the original nagas. They were smaller, had the index finger buttons for mouse 4 and 5, and seemed to have better build quality than modern ones too. Currently, I seldom use an MMO mouse because I only dabble in GW2 here and there, but when I do, I use my Roccat Nyth. I don't even think they sell those anymore, but honestly, that feels like my best option currently. Very unique mouse, that is highly customizable versus the rest, I wish it were wireless and not so heavy though.
Ideally, I want a mouse on the small side, lightweight, wireless, with mouse buttons 4 and 5 like the old nagas, or the nyth, which has a 2 button switch that sits between your index and middle finger. Nothing seems to meet that criteria. Was hoping the "glorious PC gaming" company would make one eventually, so I could at least get the same form factor as my current (non MMO) mouse, the Model D.
What about all the dirt and dust that will accumulate pretty fast inside the mouse over not so long period of time?
Exactly my thought aswell. And due how the casing looks, it will be super hard to clean aswell..
Yeah, overtime that could be a thing. Unless you have a real good air compressor, I think it'll be nasty inside
I've owned several glorious mice, currently have a gravastar aliminum shell mouse. They don't get as dirty as you think. Not gonna lie I think these mice are made for people with carpal tunnel. I can tell the difference between my heavy corsair scimitar and a light mouse. Hand hurts alot less after hours of use.
@@wolffmanjack4743 good to know, never had one like that for an extended period of time
I picked one up a replacement for a scimitar elite. I wanted to go wireless. It was packed back up and marked for return within 2 hours of unboxing.
I feel the side buttons are in an uncomfortable position, weirdly angled and unnecessarily stiff. Incredibly uncomfortable design.
Not too long after this couple of months maybe, Corsair dropped the Scimitar Wireless. While iCUE is shite, the mouse is fantastic.
I may take a look at their wireless model as well the side panel looks kinda far back but I won't know till I use it.
@Manchild_Gaming The side panel buttons on the Scimitar models can be slid further forward or backward, allowing you to customize it to your hand size and mouse grip. The panel is tightened or loosened by tightening or loosening a nut on the bottom of the mouse with an included alan key.
The Scimitar RGB Elite is my go to and I cannot recommend it enough
Have you noticed any issues with the optical sensor and surfaces with the Corsair Scimitar wireless?
Out of curiosity, which MMO mouse is your favorite? I've owned multiples of both the Razer Naga and the Logitech G600 - all of which had varying durability problems after a year or so of use. My latest is the Corsair Scimitar; which has started having scroll wheel problems after about six months of use.
If not for the wierd random disconnect i think i like the Aerox the most. I havent used the scimitar and its been forever since ive laid hands on a g600
I prefer heavier Mice. But in all honesty I have yet to come across a better mouse for MMO's than the Logitech G600. That extra mouse button for binding to ctrl/shift or useing it as their G-shift key just makes things just so much easier. Sadly there is no wireless version cause having logitech airplay tech with this mouse be amazing.
I'm going for wireless myself just to eliminate wire clutter. I'd love to give that a try if they ever make one
Too bad after 50million years Logitech just refuse to make an updated model for no real reason
What other options are there to consider if you want something as light with mmo buttons?
It's the lightest mouse on the market, I believe. Your alternatives will be heavier.
How well does this mouse work with M-series Macs?
I unfortunately cannot speak to that, as i only use PC.
I too found that the 1-2-3 buttons were too far forward and small. I found myself going back to the Naga...
What mouse are you using now currently?
Currently using the razer Naga wireless I believe it's called. Which is nice but quite heavy in comparison.
@@Manchild_Gaming that mouse also looks fantastic I was considering that one as well as the Aerox 9 and the scimitar pro wireless. The Aerox 9 checks all the boxes especially with the weight differences between all three but hearing about the random d/c’s kind of scares me from trying it out.
@@Sl0th150 yeah i tend to place reliability very high, and maybe it was just bad luck. I do miss it and may give it another shot at some point.
@@Manchild_Gaming I’m gonna pick one up today and if I experience the same issues I’ll return it for a Naga but unfortunately last night my scroll wheel died on my Scimitar Pro randomly in M1S and we still have prog tonight x.x. Ty for the recommendation I’ll let you know how it goes by tomorrow if I end up returning it or keeping it.
Sounds good best of luck till then
g600 for me, I just cant let go of the g-shift
This is a good mouse made for people with long hands. I have 17cm hand span and this mouse was just way too long for me to actually be able to use.
Yeah as I said I felt like my thumb was a little short for this one. I wish they'd had a slide able thumb pad like the corsair scimitar
If it wasn't 160€ I might consider it. Maybe a wired non rgb version
You have disconnecting issues because you updated the firmware thinking that's a good idea.
I updated the firmware because of the disconnecting issues.
@@Manchild_Gaming Weird, mine started getting massive disconnecting issues after I updated the firmware.
@@Predator0113m Its a shame the battery actually lasts forever too i feel like compared to the naga.
I assume you switched it back to factory and had good results?
@@Manchild_Gaming You cannot switch it back after you do a firmware update. I ended up sending it back to warranty and they sent me a new one. I haven't done the firmware update and it has been flawless since. Zero disconnects or weird stuff.
@@Predator0113m haha crazy, Yeah thats wonky AF. Im tempted to give it a third try because i really hate the weight and recharge time, but im past my return window for the naga so we shall see. Thx for shareing your experience with it.
Excellent mouse but I have had two break on me so I keep defaulting back to my Corsair mmo mouse.
Same issue with disconnect or something else?
good\excellent design or idea maybe - but considering You alrdy had 2 of them break - it's definitely not an excellent mouse... ^ ^'
@@Manchild_Gaming First one the mouse wheel crapped out within a few weeks, the second one the left clicker started to stick. I havent had a chance to RMA the second one yet. I mean its a SUPER good mouse when it works but both of these I got at a local best buy. I cleaned and did can of airs on both of them but no dice.
@@delaran6243 dannggg
@@Manchild_Gaming Yeah, and I really like it as a mouse. I just hope the third one doesnt have the same issue.
My buttons dont always register its ssuper annoying
The holes are weird. What if you are a heavy sweater and all your sweat drops right inside lol.
I actually think the holes help keep your hand cooler. There is supposedly some moister deterring technology, which is probably BS, but their website boasts it keeps moister and dust out.
Ouchy, this mouse seems like trash tier if you take it for what it is. Disconnection issue is a non-starter for even a $2 mouse. You don't want to be in an intense raid and BAM, you disconnect, you die -- or even stop being able to act for 5 seconds critical failure unless you keep to all 'easy/normal" content in FFXIV. Even if you are sticking to that, any peripheral that locks up, freezes, or stop working for any perceievable period of time that disrupts my sensation that the thing is working smoothly is a massive problem, especially when it's intermittent.
Moving onto other things is still pretty sad for this mouse, even if you assume no disconnect issues:
Lightweight is simply not useful for a mouse. People who have wrist issues with mice is because of their form factor that forces you to have ulnar deviation (rotated arm because your wrist is at a angle). Even though based on physics, you are doing "more work" to start and stop a heavier mouse as you move it, the weight any mouse that isn't made of heavy medals is well within any person or child operating with perfect control, and low effort all day. What matters is how smooth the slide is --- the skates and your own hand, arm, or fingers that touch the mouse pad or other surface. Those can be the cause of a massive difference between the amount of force (effort) it takes to move your mouse from being still compared to keeping it moving and cause unstable and jittery movement.
The button layout is also horrible: although it is an unfortunate "standard" when it comes to MMO mice I have personal experience with the layout via the Corsair Scimitar. Your thumb is a crucial part of controlling mouse movement and you do so only when you have confident grip with it. If you put that many buttons on the side with a reasonable size, it'll mean reaching the back/rear row makes your thumb grip kind of "crunched in" and to reach the forward row you are stretching. There's even an annoying variance around the top and bottom row vertically. It's trivial to feel this out and you easily find the buttons your thumb feels comfortable pressing quickly and confidently and it'll likely be 2-3 at most, and the other buttons, you'll have to hunt. Yes, you can learn it over time but I still know the layout is the problem.
You should really check out the SwiftpointZ. No, I don't work for them, just an extremely happy owner for 5+ years, and just upgraded to the Z2. Virtually nothing changed; I just wanted it new and cleaner. The mouse has more buttons, and more functions (force sensitive deep click threholds on 4 of the most easy buttons), all in very separate and intuitive places to access them -- all without forcing you into awkward stretches or grips that are counter to your thumb being where it needs to be to control the mouse movement 100% of the time. The only reason this mouse doesn't seem to be the stupidly clear choice is brand recognition, price, the mouse does so much some reviewers hammer it thinking they need to try to use some of it's more unique features to the fullest.
Also, minor suggestion for your usage of any MMO mouse: I think you have greater gains when you dedicate shifting over modifier keys entirely to the mouse -- before moving any direct hotkeys there. Most people find it really easy to hit 4-7 keys around WASD movement, but when you also have to hit a modifier with them, far less trivial. Putting the modifier on your right hand syncs up really nice and gives you back a lot better movement because you're dropping the pinky stretches and feeling so much more confident around all keypresses even when modifiers are pressed. Think about it this way: every modifier you can put on the mouse, multiplies the number of keys you have access to on your left hand.
wireless is an anti-feature for me. Anything that can disconnect will disconnect at the most inconvenient time.
It's too lightweight, mouses need a bit of weight to not feel cheap.
Saw another comment who feels thr same way. I spose it comes down to preference. But using a Naga now and it's too heavy
@@Manchild_Gaming Yeah, I was surprised to hear "lightweight" being pitched as such a pro, since I'm used to mice with adjustable weight kits 😅 But to your point, different preferences for different people. Nowadays I think I'd love a lightweight mouse, especially if it offered some extra airflow to my sweaty gamer hands
Naga powa!
A mouse that doesn't mouse very well? No thanks
Yeah the disconnection issues were it for me. Reliability > Most everything else
this mouse ain't it chief
If not for the reliability, I really did like it
Horrific quality. First wheel started misbehaving in couple of months. Though I was the one at fault. Bought a second one...in 2 months, same issue. NEVER again.
Might look into this, the Naga Pro is starting to become bothersome.
Naga pro is insanely heavy.
V2?
@@WilXliFY yeah working a V2 Pro wireless review right now, but yeah V2 Pro is super heavy, but seems like a good mouse none the less