Something Is Happening To Emo (Not Just Twink Death)
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2023
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my chemical romance were so funny for how they handled the when we were young festival 💀 old sfx makeup, only playing their greatest hits (as opposed to more obscure songs like they’d been doing for the rest of their 2022-23 tour), selling t-shirts that just said “MERCH”. no one is doing it like them truly.
they know what's up fr
Goats, Mcr my Beloved
they're my favorite band for a reason
Not necessarily my favorite band, but man I respect the hell out of them, and this is one more reason why.
Emo Gen Z is basically you got bullied for being emo in middle school but in high school everyone wants/wanted to be emo
no one wants to be emo in high school bruh stop trying to make yourself feel better
I'm older genz/younger millenial so it went backwards for me. I was emo, and it was so cool to people until emo died and then they thought it was so weird that was my subculture. And then I made emo rap beats until that became a thing and then said "wait... "
Yeah it's fucking crazy what changes and doesn't change
@@TheBananamonger I went to a highschool that allowed me to specialize in art so i enjoy it, you are jumping into conclusions, im not even trad catholic
I mean I was emo in my highschool that was full of alternative people, but I was a total outcast compared to them, i had no friends there.
@@jonhard1049I was friends with everyone except the most preppy rich kids that were really cliquish. I would have befriended you gang
ishowspeed’s entire life changed in that moment you can see it in his eyes
chat is this real
jarvis, create me a new personality
not really lol he didnt seem to give af about it at all
Metal fan understand a joke challenge
@@StzaCrizzackdid you actually think this comment was serious?
Go outside.
all the girls who got groomed by OG emo bands are in their 30s now man that's crazy
Thats not og emo it’s poser emo real emo bands never groomed anyone they were diy and queer not just Rich white men ran by companies
@@catonyoutooblmao yeah keep telling yourself that. Every scene since the beginning of rock music has been infested with groomers and abusers.
@@Jeremy-hx7zj since you know so much about the emo scene, give me a list of abusers that are “infesting” the actual emo scene. not the rich white men who cashed in on it with annoying whiny pop punk music in the 2000s, but an actual emo band that has it’s roots in actual legitimate emotional hardcore, a scene created by queer people in the punk DC scene. if you know how it’s “infested” with abusers, then please give me a few at least. rock music is infested with abusers, yes, but the emotional hardcore scene is not even close to being as shitty as the fake emo bands that destroyed emo’s reputation as a whole. real emo is diy, queer, and leftist, and disassociates itself from abusers as much as possible; unlike the bands that stole the label “emo” in the 2000s, which are not at all associated with the scene.
@@catonyoutoob every community, no matter how queer and POC it is, has abusers. I've NEVER encountered any kind of community, in or out of music, that wasn't infested with abusers. The burden of proof is on you.
@Jeremy-hx7zj it's not on me to find the abusers in this scene. they exist, but saying it's infested is insane when you clearly aren't in the emocore scene. it is very rare that someone is outed as an abuser in this community because it's small and not full of rich white men with huge power imbalances like most rock communities.
As a 42 year old guy that was part of this "scene" its a bit surreal hearing how a younger generation imagines the history. In the 80s to mid 90s emo was an insult. It was a word zines used to mock bands. Hardline straight edge groups were called emo if they were "crying about eating cows". Grouping bands into micro-genres is kind of a new thing, and its understandable because in the past we described bands by location, fashion or record label. Since these DIY bands didn't do large, frequent tours or have records carried in every city, music styles were very localized. And pre-internet fashion was much more tied to locations/subcultures. We would describe the sounds of bands by it's a "Spock hair" hardcore band or "gym shorts" hardcore band (again, used for mockery vs self-description). Large indie labels tended to focus on groups with a similar sound/style, and since you often had to buy records without hearing them, people would buy based on the "genre" of the label. Now, since a band's location, fashion and who released their record is pretty much irrelevant, those descriptors are gone. If you look back, compilations were based around cities or labels and today many playlists are about these new micro-genres. It's pretty funny that people think that there was ever a "real emo" or that the E.I.C. started recently.
Spock hair vs gym shorts was accurate
Note about Emo Nite. It was started as a meme event like the Shrek rave or the rival LA night, Brandon Wardell's "Teen Party" (that would have sets with a Tyler the Creator track bookended with Sugar Ray and a Home Improvement theme song). It was a joke to play "cringe" mall kid music at a "cool" LA party.
@@whoatemyteethall I know is gen alpha are into nonsense humor like ski skibidi toilet😂
This is actually really interesting as a teenager who’s recently gotten into emo, its so interesting how the internet has changed things
THIS
TwinkxDeath would make a great powerviolence band name.
Twink Obliterator is pretty close
My username lmao
I was once told Punk died because of Capitalism's autoimmune system, when something becomes popular enough it becomes commodified, and once done, it is killed.
What you’re describing is called “capitalist recuperation”
There is a term for this btw. What you’re describing is known as “recuperation,” when a genuinely radical movement gets folded back into the system and defanged so that it is now effectively neutralized. It is a term taken directly from the recovery from illness too.
It’s actually due to Punk’s inherent fakeness,
lack of moral values,
and total corniness.
Nothing to do with Capitalism.
(Not to mention it was a CIA intelligence operation in the first place )
That’s why the underground has to always keep digging! 💪⚒️
Punk was never actually subversive be fr that idea is just mythmaking for annoying people
Not to be an old guy, but a bit of a history lesson. "Emo" originates from "emotional punk", especially "emotional hardcore". Skramz isn't mixing emo and hardcore together, it's literally just a continuation of what emo was in the early to mid 90's. The split happened when what most people think of as emo happened in the early 2000's, which was really just slightly aggressive pop-punk.
@@diydylana3151 cool explanation
Real emo only consists of
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Real emo only consists of
I remember when we started to label ourselves as "melodic hardcore", because we didn't want to get seen as one of those emo pop punk kids... good times
yes exactly, props to you
what i miss from this time period of punk/hardcore was the amount of people willing to put on local shows. then the "fests" took over.
not really, local shows are stronger than ever. get involved in your local scene bruh
@@sillygoober698i dont have one bruh
@@fabtasy that’s fucked uppppp
@@fabtasy are you in a small town?
@@sillygoober698depends on if their city government hasn't shut down all the local venues which they've been doing in my city
This is so strange to me because the internet is a vastly different place than real life. Where I live listening music that isnt classic rock, country or pop will immediately get you classified as emo and you *will* get made fun of.
Good! It builds character.
Once again capitalism ruins something I love, womp womp.
And once again hardcore is there to save it.
TRUEEEEEEEEE
not muh heckin' capitalism zomg bruh
never ending cycle of punk against the norm until it becomes profitable norm for losers falling for it, creating even more punk against the norm
yessir
Absolutely correct, comrade
No mention of Saetia or Circle Takes the Square should be a prosecutable offense.
no mention of my stinky buttcheeks an fat nuts should be a prosecutable offense
Insert true emo copypasta here
So true
I don’t think they actually know what emo music is. They listed paramore and blink……… oh and just about every band The EIC(hot topic) made famous. 😂 these kids need to sit down
Circle takes the square were awful
It’s hard for ppl who’s brains and working memory evolved around the internet to imagine pre internet, disparate, localized scenes which is why pop culture pre early 00s is oversimplified and obtusely generalized and why today’s scenes will never really be as weird or distinct as they think it is. Skramz doesn’t outrank anything. It’s not a pissing contest. It just is. Enjoy yourselves and your moment and quit looking back. You’re okay.
This was so well said
i was there for it and remember the days before the EIC. also you guys fucking nail it every time. thank you for understanding and explaining this shit so well. and shout out to everyone who traded their pg99 & orchid records for blow.
shill
Hard
i'm not like most teens, i'm in my 40's is funny u cant even deny
DAMN DID SOMEONE MENTIONED SKRAMZ⁉⁉ ⁉#SKRAMZGANG 👹👹👹#SKRAMNATION👹👹👹
#ROPEMAXX
the glitchcore influence on the emo scene is kinda wild because its the least marketable shit you can possibly make while still being a nod to the scene. i love it
that sounds terrible
Actual glitchcore producer, i hate emo blending glitchcore in
@@atzonestudios3331 glitchcore always had emo influence, what are you talking about?
@@atzonestudios3331 glitchcore wouldn't exist without emo, it's pretty much baked in honestly...It's basically an evolved version of scene music from myspace days
@@atzonestudios3331 honestly, a lot of "glitchcore" is tryna bring back 3rd wave scene aesthetic (The reason people think emo is for cringe kids who cut themselves)
I'm personally glad that there's a younger generation carrying the torch of punk and doing their own thing with it. It shouldn't belong to the gatekeepers or geezers who were "there when it happened." Music should be allowed to evolve and be embraced by anyone who has a passion for it.
i miss being emo in 2007, even though people got bullied for it, it felt so much more raw and real.
Just started getting into more hardcore music and now I learn its just the algorithm manipulating my need to feel special 😭😭
Start listening to 80's pop to throw a wrench in the algorithm. Become ungovernable.
Lmao
my favorite emo discourse is whenever people make videos about emo, they never talk about any actual emo bands that were pivotal to the music and scene. also the proper evolution of emo music never gets discussed a lot of the time, as evident by focus of this video. glad you guys at least talked about 90's and 2000's skramz, that's a start.
Bands like Alesana amirite? Most pivotal emo band ever.
The only good emo band is Brand New
Literally just listen to whatever music pleases your ears. Simple as.
And if the band gets revealed as horrible people, piracys always there
B-b-b-but muh gatekeeping and uniqueness!!!
I simply can't, I hate the music I listent to, it sounds awful, but I listen to it because no one else I know does, I am indeed very unique because of this.
Theres culture surrounding music, it effects your experience of it, and things can ruin the music you like for you, that happens
I am insular to the opinions of other fans when it comes to the music I like; it is peaceful this way.
nirvana is my favorite emo t shirt brand tbh
That's it, I've reached that point in life where you don't care about selling out anymore and start listening to cheesy soft rock and 'fake' punk. It took third wave emo pulling a Freedom Rock, sure, but I've reached that point.
Not to bring up TOOL on an emo video, but I will and “Hooker With a Penis” is a very empowering little diddy that talks about not caring about being called a sellout. Many songs like that I know, but it’s one of my favorites.
Yeah man now that I'm older all the posturing about what music is better because of arbitrations has become something I give not a single fuck about, it can be industry produced plant shlock, if it's good, I don't care lol. Music is just fun, listening and finding more good music I didn't give the chance as a kid is endlessly enjoyable.
I'm 34, never listened to Dave Matthews Band because it was "soft music" growing up and I only wanted "authentic", raw, and heavy stuff - but now you can catch me on the weekends singing Satellites at the top of my lungs because life is too short to not enjoy good things.
Mall Emo was always marketable. MCR,Paramore,FOB and their contemporaries were always supposed to be part of the “emo industrial complex” there was nothing niche and safe about it. It was Britney Spears for kids that didnt fit in. Yall are just witnessing the second coming of it. FYI, i grew up when these bands cane out, i love these bands to death and im not tryna diss them at all. Just tryna be real
Nailed it. Although this video rocks as does most of what they do. The bands you mentioned were mainstream as fuck and the emo look was co-opted relentlessly by the girls at the time. Nothing wrong with that, just like you said - the EIC was alive and well back in the mid 2000's.
bullets and three cheers era mcr will always have my heart idc
Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
in 2006 that alternative look was mainstream taking back sunday was on the radio, i think there was alot of self loathing and aside from undeveloped corners of the country, emo kids werent bullied for being emo, they were bullied for being weird
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
2:07 sophies floorboard enjoyers
thanks for highlighting this awesome scene and for using my footage ❤️🔥❤️🔥
What's weird to me is that people seem to think that Midwest emo and skramz have ever been separate. Like sure there's plenty of Midwest that doesn't have screaming but most skramz uses Midwest riffs, and if you go back and listen to some of the earliest skramz bands like Indian summer and hoover their sounds sit right at the intersection of emocore, Midwest and skramz. The term Midwest screamo feels really redundant to me
You know Moss Icon is the goat cuz they dropped like half an EP and an 8 track, laid the foundation for an entire genre, then broke up forever
Pianos becoming teeth is old AF at this point in comparison to newer groups
I'm 28 and I was listening to them in high school. Definitely not 'new'.
@@Anyontm I remember hearing about them around 2010-2011 opening for La dispute and defeater
Was surprised they got a mention but they were a big band in the new wave of screamo/skramz at the time. They left that genre completely behind with "Keep You" and while that change didn't go over well for many it ended up being my favorite of theirs. Everything after that has been pretty lackluster though :(
@@spoonermcgee Keep You is a great album if you listen to it as what it is and not the style that they previously recorded. It's a great written album as a whole with strong highs and lows and I think the vocals on Say Nothing are a testament to that. I really wanted to like their new album, but every time I go back to it I hate it even more, so I stopped trying. lol
with bands like Jerome's Dream playing Fest you KNOW skramz is coming back
Shit for a sec I thought you meant like top two rows; still rad. I saw them at ZBR fest and they're still rockin & rollin B-) New record is everything I had hoped for the comeback.
i thought it WAS twink death so thank you for clarifying in the title. 🤓
Profesional yappers
if we are your age? 18-24? man emo was dying by then. lol i graduated in 2012. im almost 30. lived and participated during the peak of emo/scene. But those same kids started transitioning into more rap and indie stuff after highschool. and that’s a major reason i think that people my age, along with the younger generation, liked Lil Peep, Tracy, and all that Pop/punk/emo rap scene. Because it was for us, a blast from the past, a reference to our younger days.. and for the youth of the time, it was new and fresh compared to the heavily Trap influenced music, and 808s that dominated for over a decade.
Wtf gen z shut up and take your garbage music
Agreed
Agreed (2)
Came here to see this. Good to hear that something was still there but in mid 00's was the shit
@@hilfdsgfuiw for sure
I will say being Emo feels odd today, especially me being Black and Gen Z. Like If I dont have dyed dreads, where all black with the occasional colored striped undertee, then I'm "not emo". I don't care about mainstream, I just want to talk bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, Dinosaur Jr, Cap'n Jazz and the like, yknow? I absolutely can, but It's just weird to see people who objectively don't like the music, made fun of people who did/do, then be the same to hype the corporate fests.
Certified 'poorly wrote suicide note' fan here
shoutout pwsn
@@hotstuff666hi gram
Yeah I was an emo kid in the mid to late 2000s. That was a rough time. But there was so much new music at that time, it was awesome.
On another note: "the emo industrial complex" lmao that was hililarious and accurate.
Dog I would NEVER expect I hate Sex to be mentioned among w/ shinguard and other bands. I discovered them in like 2020 and gave them a listen bc the name sounded kinda funny, shared with a friend of mine and it accidentally became one of our favorite records. There were so little recordings of their shows in yt at the time I thought NOBODY gave a fuck abt this Canadian band
1:15 "For millenials with kids who can't go to real concerts anymore" oh god, as a 31 y/o mom with a 5 months old baby, this hit me so hard 😂
From the jump this video is off. "Once upon a time weird kids used to listen to emo music" shows "scene queen" Vanna Venom. Scene kids had very cartoony looks and personalities. Scene music, Millionaires (electropop), Brokencyde (crunkcore) and Jeffree Star (dance pop) was all about partying. And this anti-emo, glam-pop scene era came many years after "emo" went mainstream with bands like Dashboard Confessional and Jimmy Eat World being all over TRL, tv commercials and superhero movie soundtracks.
I played "Showdown Throwdown" on the Stevie Ryan / Adam Paranoia UA-cam series "Scene Kid Love"
Midwest emo was the pinnacle of emo for me. Some great kinda lesser known bands, albums, and songs. More of an indie math rock influence.
Asparagus
True
yes
Well said
Real
I took a class in community college called history of rock. The professor had her husband come in and play the saxophone. That was like intro to algebra and this is calculus 7 idk
your arms are my cocoon!!!! i saw them live a couple months ago holy shit genuinely one of the best shows i've been to. the raw emotion was so, idk how to explain it. it was just so good and raw and cathartic. i wish their recorded/studio music was just as good as their live performances.
i beg your pardon, but mall screamo was industry-planted wave ride back in 2002 in the first place. you can not blame the produced product being produced, hm?
Gen Z's talking about Gen Z's love of blending and mixing things, all while wearing a Sonichu shirt; i love this.
hearing you guys talking made me feel so good, thank you for creating so I can discover that some people out there are really talented and smart with a genuine interest
Homie sitting on stage right looking more serious than a Jehovah's Witness considering abortion is always gonna make the highlight reel.
Not the local house venue in my city being featured in the Neo Punk FM video
if you guys havent done it already, i would love to see yall cover the 2014-2016 "emo" era and the internet trends / pop culture that heavily influenced it
i cant belive that really hapended to mcr vocalist gerado camino
I love YAAMC. I got to see him live a few months ago and chat with him and hes so nice. Also spoke with Judy from Record Setter :)
Excellent video, wonderful understanding, marvelous topic
This channel is the only time I heard of Title Fight and they dont stop roasting them. Cool video
One time i was wearing a circle takes the square hoodie at this bar in park slope and some guy saw it and was so stoked about seeing that bands merch out in the wild that he joked that he wanted to kill me so he could have it. Cool guy
Ha! You guys are great! This my first time watching. So smart and funny!!!
Being a neopunk fm fan is like being in the middle of a gunfight in the centre of a restaurant
I knew this video was coming.
Does this apply to the Sunny Day and Dashboard Confessional fans?
Us Millennials had it good with the 2000's emo/post-hardcore bands
Escape The Fate
MCR
Saosin
Bless The Fall
Pierce The Veil
Devil Wears Parada
Underoath
Flyleaf
Attack Attack
Dance Gavin Dance
Silverstein
Hawthorne Heights
Eyes Set To Kill
The Used
Chiodos
From First To Last
Circa Survive
Emarosa
Get Scared
Asking Alexandira
Red Jumpsuit Appratus
All American Rejects
VersaEmerge (before the female singer)
The Word Alive
Linkin Park
In Feath And Faith
We Came As Romans
Oceana
LoveHateHero
A Skylit Drive
Armor For Sleep
There's many more but what a time it was for us, many great bands even if they have a good song or two, loved the time and still listen to this music along with a lot of metalcore these days.
Also Before Their Eyes, Adept, Jamie's Elsewhere, His Statue Falls, Her Demise My Rise, Parkway Drive, Papa Roach, Bring Me The Horizon, Cromwell, Black Veil Brides, etc.
It is true that a lot of those bands had weirdos in them though. It's usually the alcoholic lead singer with an ego.
Catalyst and Vs self fire🏴☠🖤🏁
I’m so happy you mentioned YAAMC, but also kinda sad we couldn’t get a Foxtails mention too. “Every Room In Alcatraz Has a View Of San Francisco” might be one of the most emotionally brutal and cathartic songs I’ve ever heard, if not the most.
real
SO TRUE. The state of the genre just a bunch of people selling nostalgia to 20 year olds who want to relive their shitty teenage years for some reason. Like we don’t need the same shit again. WE NEED INNOVATION!
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Let me introduce you to the old post hardcore and emo, when it was genuinely expiremental and transcended emo itself, like the jesus lizard or slint, innovation could only happen with experimentation and no offense I don't see any of these millennial rise label bands doing it
@@usualdosage7287I love those older, original scenes so much. There were tons of innovation, creativity, and imagination within, even in bands that nobody knows about. I gravitated towards that more than this millennial phenomenon that goes on in the genre nowadays. We need scenes like that now more than ever.
as a milliennial (born in 85) i was a hardcore and metal kid and i can assure you guys that here in italy we were a rarities since clyb music was the norm when we were 14 or more
we still have a decent scene tho, im gen z and at least in my area there are many hardcore, metal and screamo shows like Venezia Hardcore
oh finally someone knows what skramz is. your alls reasearched/video essay type videos are sooo awesome
Quality post. You guys are genius
bruh no mention of ostraca 😒 ya'll not really that tapped in
that band was super late to the scene, u don't sound very tapped in either 😆
"Skramz" sounds like a brand of swedish chips or smth
this is super widowdusk skramz pilled
absolute banger couldn't have been more on point
Hey, LoBi from LoBi here. We just toured with Alyssa who plays sax in YAAMC and filled in for our spot on sax. Just wanted to give her a shoutout. She's a rad human being! same with all the homies in YAAMC! much love! Also shout out to Reasonable Records
saw YAAMC last night in Victoria, they’re fuckin amazing. Alyssa is so so rad :-)
¸I got into Shoegaze because I stumbled upon a Spotify playlist. Shoegaze slaps. Been to 6 shoe gaze shows this year all amazing.
I’m not as chronically online as I should be I guess. I had no idea that skramz was making a comeback. Thank you, NeoPunk.
I love all of the 80s - 2000s bands you mentioned as examples of screamo bit have legitimately never heard the term "skramz" in my life lol I learned today I'm in a skramz band
BMTH being called Emo made my fucking skin crawl.
saetia and orchid some of the best music ever
bro i'm just tryin to revive the cuddlecore/downbeat/doomgaze/twee/DnB/horrorcore/postgrunge/baroquepop/pornocore/c86/deathcore/powerviolence scene
Jerome's dream is so good. It's awesome that they're still making music.
Twink death is a crazy HAHA
another great synopsis, very well informed and articulate breakdown. these 2 dont miss lol
who pullin up to that dilly dally skramz fest
The EIC existed 20 years ago. Hot Topic was commoditizing the aesthetic when I was in high school and that was two decades ago. The fact that the next generation is dealing with the same bullshit makes me feel young again, and not in a good way.
SKRAMZ MENTIONED
you guys are the best
Watching these videos and hating: the way you talk, the things you say, the annoying try-hard "autism" jokes, makes me realize why people who have jobs irl hate me. You are like a simulacrum of internet people, for people who are internet people.
amazing comment lol
this is my favorite channel
I saw your arms are my cocoon def one of the best shows I been too
The title flight joke got me. Subbed. Lol
thank you for calling out corporate emo and the E.I.C.!!!
I'm listening to a skramz mixtape now because of this video. I love it so much! I' so glad this music didn't die, and that Gen z is pushing it further!
y'all spittin
Literally went to my first concert and it was vs self and this video drops
Do talk ab the slowcore resurgence soon
i live at the house venue "It's a Kling Thing" at 2:00 of Shin Guard playing their record release show. didn't expect to see that hahaha! word uppp :)
Skramo :) is one of the forms of music I'm most passionate about. I feel that ~philosphically~ real screamo desecrates a bounday/egotistical facade separating the artist from listener. It's just a raw expression of human spirit. I've contemplated the topic before, and I'm glad that it can't be corporatized in the same way that emo pop has been (however I am glad to see bands gain recognition/financial support). Hopefully this doesnt come across as intensly pretentious haha. RIP Shin Guard (Hazing Over is also incredible) Check out Ostraca if you haven't 🌀🌀🌀
Why did shin guard end? Could you clue me in?
@@AntonioGarcia-zy5rs I don't know the situation personally; I think they're just fast-moving people. One of their guitarists decided to focus on other things and the rest of the band evolved into Hazing Over. Probably just felt they'd run their course with that sound/set of emotions and interests shifted. I remember there was an interview on the subject.
I completely agree, I think we just have the tendency to be self deprecating and make fun of stuff. Everything aside of jokes though in the music is just fucking real. It’s so easy to blow over stuff and label it as pretentious, but you see the shows that yaamc is playing and all the bedroom skramz projects popping up. You don’t get that type of crowd interaction and energy in a lot of genres of music. Plus I think it’s also a genre that’s grown to be such an important anchor for queer and trans people to feel welcome and accepted. It’s easy to make fun of stuff like this, but at its core it is unique vulnerable and legitimately impactful in life changing ways to a lot of people.
@@emilianosalazar-vazquez5525 Thanks for the reply! It's kinda difficult to articulate; on one hand, the subject matter of the music is often dire, tragic, sorrowful, but sonically it's unparalleled energy and catharsis. There's this unspoken feeling of respite in the sound. The vocalist isn't as much trying to overtly convey their metaphors of life's misfortunes, as they are shredding their throat over how fucked and absurd existence is. I think it's fine not to take ourselves too seriously all the time. I still don't know if orchid's lyrics are pretentious or mocking pretention. It seems like quite a few early bands were interested in artistic movements like dadaism, far from popular conceptions of emo misanthropy or whatever. Abstractions aside, I agree with you- I'm happy to see that it's become a pretty accepting scene and understanding of marginalization.
TRSH and Flight Patterns are my fav rn 🤘🏼
pls don't let skramz get popular I wanna be unique 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
You never were, you’re just autistic
Cope
Shut up annoying loser
we’re both guys with Scott pilgrim pfps, that’s already one element lost for you
You gotta migrate to grindcore