I’m so tired of seeing boards advertised as gray that are actually bluish in person, this looks like a truly gray finish, absolutely love it with dual shot! Gorgeous board, and so sweet that it can be built plateless! Makes me want to go back to my one Arisu board to see if I can get used to this layout to justify buying this beauty.
@@Nizzon.had a very similar experience with the Thera 75v2, photos (maybe renders?) looked like a dark gray, but it’s quite blue in person! First world problems I suppose, but definitely disappointing.
@riceshakes my comment is more of blanket statement on the state of budget boards. Not the neo alice thing. I think they're cool, but ultimately, I don't see chinese designers making something similar to kustom like designs
Definitely my next keyboard. Love the look and finish of this board. Could not find anything about this keyboard online, so thanks Alex for being the first to share!
Since this hobby is so much about customization and constant swapping to find that perfect build...Neo focusing on ease of building and taking apart is so clutch, i really hope other companies take notice. This is crucial to a hobby like this
Edit: Received mine today and am watching this while I build it up. Great video. On the difficult bags, try opening them with one hand using your thumb & index finger in a "snapping" motion. The friction opens the seal easily every time and you avoid tearing the bags up. I actually like these bags.
Love the design aesthetics. Also reminds me of varsity when I used a Microsoft Ergo keyboard. I'd prefer to have a function row but I think this looks so slick without the function row that it's probably better this way. Also really like how Neo series keep advancing. I hope those magnetic connection become the standard.
BEEN WAITING AND WAITING FOR YOU TO DROP THIS VIDEO ONCE I SAW ON QK’s page they sent you one to review! IN LOVE WITH THIS BOARD. Have a Qk 65, 76, and 80. And a Neo 65. No ergo in the collection and this is HANDS DOWN NOW THE Ergo I’m looking to grab when it releases later this month 👀 Another blessing for a hectic Friday for me, thanks for keeping me sane man!
I do miss the builed process of the board itself, these days it feels like you only put in stabs, switches and caps and you're done. I just wish there was a way to get these board unbuilt. Thanks for the review Alex, great video as always.
I am getting this keeb in green. Lately, I bought keychron V10 to try alice layout and, wow this keyboard will give me all the things the V10 is missing.
Sold and sold! Its gorgeous , the price is aggressive and its a super functional ergo I've seen in a while. If they offered a premium case like full PC that'd be a cool premium option but yeah.
for the comment on not getting ergo boards, i have shoulder issues and am more sensitive to when my body is getting tired. believe me there is a difference in alice/split keyboards, you can work longer at the desk. same for a vertical mouse when i had wrist issues.
When I first saw renders of this board on the QK discord, I wasn't too excited because of this type of Alice layout with a key to the right of the arrow cluster... but it's actually tented, has magnetic PCB connectors, and the ball & catch latches... gonna join the group buy once it actually launches
17:22 I type like this at around 80wpm using only 2-3 fingers on each hand. I understand it would be faster and less errores to do home row, but i have to touch probably 1500 keyboards a year(i manage hardware for a community college for over 1000 devices) so i have to make a standard keyboard ergonomic Edit My 'home row' is CDSA and MKL:
I don't know if you meant it Alex, but you linked build guide notion in the description instead of the notion with all the details and info for the board.
Man, for the price I might grab one of these just to see if I can get used to the layout again. Had one of the MS ergo KB's way back when and ended up giving it to my Mom after I got an IBM model M. That looks good enough that even if I ended up not liking the layout I wouldn't mind showing it off somewhere. Neo kind of knocking it out of the box with their 'budget' offerings.
This legits looks awesome. I have never used this kind of keyboard, but I am interested in trying it out, especially for the price. It honestly seems like it's a lot more expensive keyboard.
I came so close to buying this beautiful keyboard, but one awful issue stopped me - the up arrow key is where most of us press shift with our right hands. You have to stretch an extra key just to make this work and it's a baffling design choice. I'm glad they included arrow keys, they're important, but instead of just shifting them to the right one unit and including a couple other keys on top, they shoved it inside the lower right half and ruin the typing experience for half the people who actually use the right shift key when typing. I really hope they improve this in the next iteration, because wow was this a terrible oversight.
Ok I haven't picked up a new keyboard in like a year so I'm out of the loop ... how does one acquire this bc I really want a more ergonomic keyboard ;-;
I don't notice anything like that on my end, it may be an illusion with the tilt? The alignment is actually don't very well with the gaskets doubling as alignment areas.
i had my eye on getting gmk dualshot for a while but i was just looking for a nice grey board to come along. lo and behold neo comes out with an alice-style one. glad to see a video on this so i know what my future board will look like. for anybody experienced with typing on an alice-style keyboard, is there a bit of a learning curve and is it viable for gaming use?
So those baggies right. Don't rip them apart to open them. Just put thumb and index finger on both side of the seal and slide them the opposite direction. It will open easily and you don't have to destroy the top of the bag.
Been using my Neo Ergo for a while now, but It does have one issue. For some reason the left side sounds quite a lot more resonant/hollow compared to the right side. I've tried force braking it, and though it does help a little, it seems to be impossible to get rid of it. Interestingly enough the left side sounds more resonant/hollow even with the top case removed. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
Those guys are way ahead. Seriously. Who would spend 500 bucks on a keyboard now? Not only they make something affordable but it’s actually flawless, and much much better than a lot of more expensive keyboards.
I mean, some people have different wants and needs that have different price points. If you dig deep enough in any hobby you can find pricey items! Everyone likes different things and thats okay!
I really want to pick up this board however if its 60 USD to ship it to Canada thats a little much to ask and would be a deal breaker as thats over $80 CAD and if its DHL shipping they are going to hit you for a min $40 of handling fees.
This is better thought out and designed internally than TypeK for 1/5 of cost. Ouch. The thing I dont like are those circular dot like LED holes. They should have just done it like spring. The holes dont match the angular shape of the design.
@@pryex8565 and it sounds like wet fart and it is impossible to use without wrist rest. sure well designed. It is just hype and branding that didn't really live up to in the end.
The Type K has stupendously high thick amounts of machined parts and a lot of finish but yeah I'm so so glad I waited. I'm buying like 3 of these in different colors and will probably main these for the foreseable its just so cleanly/intelligently designed / I haven't been THIS excited to buy a board in over a year.
@@foggytypes finish is added detail, things that aren’t obvious but that would add cost , the contrast interior, dyed polycarbonate, countersunk screws, EC support, things like forged carbon fiber options. The cost to value is still debatable but yes the quality of the finish is just a smidge higher.
I’ve owned a neo65 and while it’s a great looking board the bt and 2.4ghz on this is so sporadic that for people looking at this board they should only use it wired. This is coming from a person that owns a kei v2 and a gk65v2. None of them have solid wireless connectivity.
This legit is the only Neo keyboard I'm truly interested in. Although the weight could be a dealbreake... I really don't like that design at all. Wishing they just kept it plain, or went with the same type of aesthetics they went with for the Neo65. Also glad they're not forcing people to use the Spring layout and that it's optional! I really really don't like the right shift position. It's absolutely cursed especially for someone who uses right shift very often. Kinda crazy that they initially reverted their decision to use this layout after people told them not to do it en-masse, only to go back to offering it as an option. The Neo70 was also tempting, but after owning and dailying the Cycle7 I just can't see myself using any other budget-tier FRL. From all I heard, the Neo70 can't top that. Plus I own a Pluto which is simply incredible with its o-ring mount config and an alu plate. I wish it was more fun to type on so I could use it more often.
That right Shift situation annoys the hell out of me too. When I complained about it on Reddit, the QK rep said "it's to accommodate both 60 and 65% in one case, technically this is a 60% keyboard"...which is forcing people to choose between having the arrow keys or having right Shift in its normal place, while trying to "solve" something that was never an issue to begin with. Ofcourse, I got downvoted for daring to question that design choice, lol...
My gripes with Neo are the shitty bags and the carrying case's use of the elastic bands over typical velcro. Combined with the ball catch system getting the keyboard out of the case it's so easy to accidentally pop the top case off. Overall minor problems though, the keyboards are great value and the build experience is likely the easiest in the hobby right now.
I watched so many of your videos, and I really really cannot place your voice, I have heard another youtuber with a similar voice , and I just can't seem to place it
sound tests- plateless, SWK ripple with GMK Dualshot R2
no foam - 19:26
case foam - 21:21
I’m so tired of seeing boards advertised as gray that are actually bluish in person, this looks like a truly gray finish, absolutely love it with dual shot! Gorgeous board, and so sweet that it can be built plateless! Makes me want to go back to my one Arisu board to see if I can get used to this layout to justify buying this beauty.
Yeah my Akko MOD007 that is supposed to be gray is bluish, a bit disappointing.
@@Nizzon.had a very similar experience with the Thera 75v2, photos (maybe renders?) looked like a dark gray, but it’s quite blue in person! First world problems I suppose, but definitely disappointing.
the gray colorway looks amazing. very rarely do we see gray finishes that doesn't have any to no blue tones.
I preordered a Cycle8 in Metal color and hope it will be a neutral gray or a little warm. Not bluish as you can see in many pictures where WB is off.
man neo is for real killing it even if you're more on the premium side of this hobby they're still worth picking up. def gonna get this one
Eh not entirely. I personally really like top mount medium to high angle boards. Budget china designs don't really scratch that itch for me
@@muto4330 this isn't a budget design, getting a tented alice layout is almost impossible at this price
@riceshakes I agree, this is an absolute steal for the quality Neo is delivering compared to Type-K
@riceshakes my comment is more of blanket statement on the state of budget boards. Not the neo alice thing. I think they're cool, but ultimately, I don't see chinese designers making something similar to kustom like designs
@@muto4330 why you putting such an emphasis on Chinese 😭😭
Definitely my next keyboard. Love the look and finish of this board. Could not find anything about this keyboard online, so thanks Alex for being the first to share!
Since this hobby is so much about customization and constant swapping to find that perfect build...Neo focusing on ease of building and taking apart is so clutch, i really hope other companies take notice. This is crucial to a hobby like this
Had the OW Lab Spring for 3yrs as daily driver, this seems like the perfect upgrade 😀
Fr same here
And it's half the price lol
@@lone0017 my current plan is to sell my spring and buy 2 of these bad boys
Edit: Received mine today and am watching this while I build it up. Great video.
On the difficult bags, try opening them with one hand using your thumb & index finger in a "snapping" motion. The friction opens the seal easily every time and you avoid tearing the bags up. I actually like these bags.
I was waiting for this and I still can't believe it's here.
Also, those spacebars sound so good.
Now I'm torn on which colorway to get. 🤔
It was such a fun stream, haha picking colors is no easy task.
I know for sure champagne and purple is the way for me and the red
personally going full black since tented alices remind me so much of stealth jets. black case, black kernel, black weight and black badge.
The grey finish looks so nice. Definitely grabbing this color
Just placed an order for this keyboard. It just seems really cool. Using the same keycaps. I'm quite excited to try it out.
actually one of the best sounding boards i have laid my ears upon
The smile on his face said it all this will be my first Alice layout board thanks for all the reviews buddy keep up the good work
Love the design aesthetics. Also reminds me of varsity when I used a Microsoft Ergo keyboard. I'd prefer to have a function row but I think this looks so slick without the function row that it's probably better this way.
Also really like how Neo series keep advancing. I hope those magnetic connection become the standard.
BEEN WAITING AND WAITING FOR YOU TO DROP THIS VIDEO ONCE I SAW ON QK’s page they sent you one to review! IN LOVE WITH THIS BOARD. Have a Qk 65, 76, and 80. And a Neo 65. No ergo in the collection and this is HANDS DOWN NOW THE Ergo I’m looking to grab when it releases later this month 👀 Another blessing for a hectic Friday for me, thanks for keeping me sane man!
I was already going to get this board, now I cannot freaking wait.
I do miss the builed process of the board itself, these days it feels like you only put in stabs, switches and caps and you're done. I just wish there was a way to get these board unbuilt. Thanks for the review Alex, great video as always.
I am getting this keeb in green. Lately, I bought keychron V10 to try alice layout and, wow this keyboard will give me all the things the V10 is missing.
Sold and sold! Its gorgeous , the price is aggressive and its a super functional ergo I've seen in a while. If they offered a premium case like full PC that'd be a cool premium option but yeah.
Not gonna lie I watched your vod of this a few days ago. I’m buying one.
The Neo series price points are incredible. They've single-handedly made the premium custom keyboard market more accessible.
Tbh, I think ima get this exact config. I’ve wanted a nice grey board to use Dualshot on for a while and this just looks amazing.
Why is he so good at picking keycaps!!!!!??????
Just a heads up, there's a typo in the description: "Nero Ergo" should be "Neo Ergo"
You the best
@@alexotos no worries, typos are sneaky little buggers
for the comment on not getting ergo boards, i have shoulder issues and am more sensitive to when my body is getting tired. believe me there is a difference in alice/split keyboards, you can work longer at the desk. same for a vertical mouse when i had wrist issues.
This is what I want when I dive into the hobby
I bought 2. I'm scared theyll stop making this case so I stocked up lol.
When I first saw renders of this board on the QK discord, I wasn't too excited because of this type of Alice layout with a key to the right of the arrow cluster... but it's actually tented, has magnetic PCB connectors, and the ball & catch latches... gonna join the group buy once it actually launches
I'm honestly sold on the price
Sold, I'll take two! Thanks Alex 😊
this board is such a refreshing lesson in how you shouldn't fall for fabricated FOMO
How?
@@GodOhMyGosh by skipping egregious cash grabs and waiting for good things to come, such as this board.
@@foggytypes oh ye
This board, at this price, is straight up telling you « you got scammed in the past » 😅
17:22 I type like this at around 80wpm using only 2-3 fingers on each hand. I understand it would be faster and less errores to do home row, but i have to touch probably 1500 keyboards a year(i manage hardware for a community college for over 1000 devices) so i have to make a standard keyboard ergonomic
Edit My 'home row' is CDSA and MKL:
Damn it sounds sooooo crispy beautiful
i am in love with the colours for your MX Master. How were you able to change it like that?
Maan such a cool well-built kit.
How did you get the colors on your logitech mouse in this video? Vinyl decals?
I don't know if you meant it Alex, but you linked build guide notion in the description instead of the notion with all the details and info for the board.
I type exactly like Alex. Hopefully I can force my right hand to work a little harder if I get this board
Man, I own an Original Alice, and I may pick this one up! Great review as usual bro!
Oh god.... I love this....
18:08 does anyone know what keycaps those are?
GMK Dualshot 2
Man, for the price I might grab one of these just to see if I can get used to the layout again. Had one of the MS ergo KB's way back when and ended up giving it to my Mom after I got an IBM model M. That looks good enough that even if I ended up not liking the layout I wouldn't mind showing it off somewhere. Neo kind of knocking it out of the box with their 'budget' offerings.
I was getting big fomo for not getting in on the type k but the price point was so high. Glad I waited now.
This legits looks awesome. I have never used this kind of keyboard, but I am interested in trying it out, especially for the price. It honestly seems like it's a lot more expensive keyboard.
can I ask if anyone know the name of the keycap? thanks in advance :D
Just ordered mien and will also build it plateless. Do you think it's silly to use foam?
Alex build without it sounds good
Really thinking of getting this in the ano purple with CYL Hi! Viz. I've never tried an ergo board but this one really looks and sounds fantastic!
you should do a comparison of all the neo boards with same switches and same plates :)
Can’t wait to get one.
I came so close to buying this beautiful keyboard, but one awful issue stopped me - the up arrow key is where most of us press shift with our right hands. You have to stretch an extra key just to make this work and it's a baffling design choice. I'm glad they included arrow keys, they're important, but instead of just shifting them to the right one unit and including a couple other keys on top, they shoved it inside the lower right half and ruin the typing experience for half the people who actually use the right shift key when typing. I really hope they improve this in the next iteration, because wow was this a terrible oversight.
Ok I haven't picked up a new keyboard in like a year so I'm out of the loop ... how does one acquire this bc I really want a more ergonomic keyboard ;-;
Looks really nice, except I HATE how the up arrow is left of the right shift. Gimme no arrows over that any day.
You can opt with no arrows!
Do you believe a wrist rest is necessary for this layout?
Definitely picking this one up
Where did Alex get that orange cable from?
How's the PCB alignment on plateless, though? It might be my eyes that deceive me but it looks like the PCBs are slightly shifted towards the center.
I don't notice anything like that on my end, it may be an illusion with the tilt? The alignment is actually don't very well with the gaskets doubling as alignment areas.
Is this the same grey as the qk75n? Looks so nice
=o Board seems really interesting, but as a side question what is that grey deskmat thing you got that covers your entire desk?
What’s the red cable that’s in most of the streams?
Dude we need to do our own soldering?
i had my eye on getting gmk dualshot for a while but i was just looking for a nice grey board to come along. lo and behold neo comes out with an alice-style one. glad to see a video on this so i know what my future board will look like. for anybody experienced with typing on an alice-style keyboard, is there a bit of a learning curve and is it viable for gaming use?
I use an alice layout for work and standard at home - it wasn't particularly pleasant using alice for gaming, but its definitely hot impossible lol
All this for under 200 dollars? I am definitely picking one up. I love my maja v1, it's a shame that Alice/arisu boards are not more popular.
such a nice board
where di he get the split spacebar for gmk dualshot???
hey hey, quick question can i neo ergo is customizable in VIA?
To achieve a similar sound profile but with a plate, which plate should I go for? Alu? Thanks!
So those baggies right. Don't rip them apart to open them. Just put thumb and index finger on both side of the seal and slide them the opposite direction. It will open easily and you don't have to destroy the top of the bag.
Been using my Neo Ergo for a while now, but It does have one issue. For some reason the left side sounds quite a lot more resonant/hollow compared to the right side. I've tried force braking it, and though it does help a little, it seems to be impossible to get rid of it. Interestingly enough the left side sounds more resonant/hollow even with the top case removed. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
Hmm, that right shift there is scaring me off
They layout is changable!
This looks so interesting but I am really looking forward to the 60% from the Neo series
Neo 60% confirmed?
What is the name of the mouse you use?
will alice layout add Function key row soon :(
75% alice boards exist, although they are uncommon
How this compare to the kyubi alice sir ?
when/where can i buy it????
this vs the type K?
what keycaps are those on the 65% keyboard?
GMK Classic Retro Zhuyin
what keycaps is he using for his main board/the board connected?
Looks like GMK classic retro zhuyin
Those guys are way ahead. Seriously. Who would spend 500 bucks on a keyboard now?
Not only they make something affordable but it’s actually flawless, and much much better than a lot of more expensive keyboards.
I mean, some people have different wants and needs that have different price points. If you dig deep enough in any hobby you can find pricey items! Everyone likes different things and thats okay!
what's the keyboard he used above?
Mode SixtyFive r2
I really want to pick up this board however if its 60 USD to ship it to Canada thats a little much to ask and would be a deal breaker as thats over $80 CAD and if its DHL shipping they are going to hit you for a min $40 of handling fees.
*laughs in european* oh sweet summer child
Ashkeebs is a Canadian vendor that is planning to carry the board so shipping should be much more reasonable I think
Were these ripples stock?
Yes!
@@alexotos man didn’t know these sounded so clean!
This is my next keyboard! Love it!
This is better thought out and designed internally than TypeK for 1/5 of cost. Ouch.
The thing I dont like are those circular dot like LED holes. They should have just done it like spring. The holes dont match the angular shape of the design.
I completely disagree. Type K is better designed in every way IMO
@@pryex8565 and it sounds like wet fart and it is impossible to use without wrist rest. sure well designed. It is just hype and branding that didn't really live up to in the end.
The Type K has stupendously high thick amounts of machined parts and a lot of finish but yeah I'm so so glad I waited. I'm buying like 3 of these in different colors and will probably main these for the foreseable its just so cleanly/intelligently designed / I haven't been THIS excited to buy a board in over a year.
@@_iboji lol what does even "a lot of finish" mean?
@@foggytypes finish is added detail, things that aren’t obvious but that would add cost , the contrast interior, dyed polycarbonate, countersunk screws, EC support, things like forged carbon fiber options. The cost to value is still debatable but yes the quality of the finish is just a smidge higher.
The grey is hot af
Very nice too
I’ve owned a neo65 and while it’s a great looking board the bt and 2.4ghz on this is so sporadic that for people looking at this board they should only use it wired. This is coming from a person that owns a kei v2 and a gk65v2. None of them have solid wireless connectivity.
I like the form factor a lot, just as clack enjoyer im actually not impressed at all. So does it sound good at the other end of the spectrum?
it comes with plate foam and PE foam so I'm sure you can shape it to a sound you would enjoy
plateless nofoam build with swk ripples... idk what you're hearing but there's plenty of clack in there.
6 months later, i can confirm that the little baggies still suck LOL
I need holy shit
Dang that looks great! Now...I have to figure out what color I want lol.
So these don't come with switches or keycaps? That's fine, it just wasn't totally clear to me before watching this.
would love a curved row board like the feker80 alice
This legit is the only Neo keyboard I'm truly interested in. Although the weight could be a dealbreake... I really don't like that design at all. Wishing they just kept it plain, or went with the same type of aesthetics they went with for the Neo65.
Also glad they're not forcing people to use the Spring layout and that it's optional! I really really don't like the right shift position. It's absolutely cursed especially for someone who uses right shift very often. Kinda crazy that they initially reverted their decision to use this layout after people told them not to do it en-masse, only to go back to offering it as an option.
The Neo70 was also tempting, but after owning and dailying the Cycle7 I just can't see myself using any other budget-tier FRL. From all I heard, the Neo70 can't top that. Plus I own a Pluto which is simply incredible with its o-ring mount config and an alu plate. I wish it was more fun to type on so I could use it more often.
That right Shift situation annoys the hell out of me too. When I complained about it on Reddit, the QK rep said "it's to accommodate both 60 and 65% in one case, technically this is a 60% keyboard"...which is forcing people to choose between having the arrow keys or having right Shift in its normal place, while trying to "solve" something that was never an issue to begin with.
Ofcourse, I got downvoted for daring to question that design choice, lol...
It's my time.
19:25
what do you mean you dont type like this ? my arms are in an angle even with normal keyboard... sounds like skill issue to me
They will sell a ton of these, judging by the number of views of this video
My gripes with Neo are the shitty bags and the carrying case's use of the elastic bands over typical velcro. Combined with the ball catch system getting the keyboard out of the case it's so easy to accidentally pop the top case off. Overall minor problems though, the keyboards are great value and the build experience is likely the easiest in the hobby right now.
this must be the QKrisu that has been in talks
will the goat respond to my messsage?
AYO
thanks dude
I watched so many of your videos, and I really really cannot place your voice, I have heard another youtuber with a similar voice , and I just can't seem to place it