Tank Damage Mechanics & Ballistics - Devlog 2
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- The second devlog documenting our progress on the damage mechanics, ballistics, and realtime simulation of the shrapnel, progress on the interior of the tank, and various other developments.
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Looks really good Alex. Hopefully you aren’t assassinated by Gajin
👀
@@AcesandArmour gaijin = the immortal snail
He might get kidnapped so watch out
It’s been so much fun working on this with you guys, can’t wait for the play tests!!
what?!?132.7turkishliraexchangeratetounitedstatesdollar?!!
Shit hi eta!
Yooo
based af
If Eta helped making this then this shit must be a banger
i would say this is very ambitious, but it has been done before, there is GHPC and the tanks in Red Orchestra 2, and if you could, attempting to get in to contact with the GHPC devs could be very insightful, and the devs at operation harsh doorstop could also be beneficial for the infantry and weapons side of things.
That's not a bad idea! GHPC was a bit of an inspiration going in, they're also completely community funded
in a few years time i hope this will be a fully fledged game, im so excited to see how this project evolves forward!
Glad to hear it!
im glad to be in such a little known upcoming game
Hopefully it won't stay little known for long 🙂
True that @@AcesandArmour
One thing id really love to see, that no other game has done afaik, is when a shellhole is created, to actually be able to see through it. Ie, if a 50mm round goes through a plate, being able to then look out of said hole. Would be really cool
That would be sick good idea
Closest we have to that is War Thunder. But of course no detail to see
thats because it would require a lot more performance or generic holes that don't match the vehicle.
So either make it transparent where the bullet hit, in real time, or have a switch with generic dmg.
Something to keep in mind is that the difference between WWII projectiles like APCR/APHE is VASTLY different from APFSDS. Whereas the APHE might ricochet in one piece on the UFP of an Abrams, APFSDS will shred itself and tumble into ineffectivity. Also, depending on the round in WWII, capped shells will have better penetration angles than non capped shells.
This looks pretty great so far though, and I'm rootin' for y'all!
Seeing eta was quite the surprise but reassures me that this game will be great
8:18 don't forget for course smoke shells as they are really useful for tank and infantry alike
Very true!
Let's goo! Amazing devlog once again.
Cool and advance features. Amazing? 👍 Wanna know how you guys handle optimization.
Go go A&A!
On some of my tests with lead plates (for down scaled physics reasons) the bullet would loose most of its velocity and stop but it would have torn out a chunk of lead in its place of impact that would be roughly the same size. This chunk would then be thrown into the back board with considerable speed
Oh yeah and I had a little thought. In other games (you know the one) flame throwers did practically nothing to tanks. However. I heard that Russian soldiers would be able to kill German tank crews with Molotov cocktails because the heat of the flame would cook them from the outside like a Dutch oven. Not to mention the oxygen starvation
Suggestion shrapnel does not fly straight at then arc down it is almost always a weird shardy shape it would really Tumble and roll in the air but still be mostly straight at high speed
I'm very excited to see this game develop, one feature I want to be added, which I don't know if it is already being worked on or not, is that instead of having a generic HP system for each of the soldiers/tank crew etc, there would be individual hit points for each of the limbs, providing certain nerfs, when lost, sometimes being detrimental, such as losing your arms as a gunner would make it so you couldn't fire the cannon.
sounds like a massive scope for a small studio but good luck
Realistic mechanical issues such as engine breakdown and random fire would be cool to see
Looks very promising, good luck to you guys!
Try not to get trapped by feature creep. Get the base mechanics you want to add done, then add more details as future updates. If you so wish of course.
This gets me more excited, than some flashy UE5 trailer.
Glad to hear it!
I Love this game! Can't wait to play it.
rain water dripping down the slopes of the armor is crazy detailed simulation. Good job!
I am very interested to see where this is going. Best of luck to you!
so you are making Enlisted...but not biased, fair and not greedy. Love it...cant wait to play
I'm am so happy youtube recommended me this lol. I am excited to see where it goes!
that panzer 4 model is really crisp! especially the interior, lots of little details that add so much to the model, not to mention the textures! all the streaks and grime, the weld beads, so good. well done!
A suggestion for the damage model pertaining to HE shells (if this hasn't been thought of or considered already). It would be cool if HE still did damage to the tank even though it didn't perforate the armor plate. While I cant with authority say exactly what kind of damage HE would do. But I imagine getting hit with something heavy going really quick and then exploding would impart a lot of force. and that force would probably bulge, or crack the armor plate, or knock things loose inside the tank. or mybe even jam the turret or elevation mechanism.
Oh wow, this game sounds incredible
Great concepts you guys got, I've been wanting to see a tank game with infantry for a long time, I especially want to just try modern tanks against older ones just to see how devastating they can be lol.
A very interesting project. I'll be following this. Godspeed!
Finally, a devlog I'm early to. Can't wait to see where this goes, this looks amazing. Even though I've never really been a fan of battlefield or warthunder styled games this legitimately looks like it could be the next big thing and fun af
Im glad this video appeared. I am impatient to see how this will turn out. I wish u the best. 🔥🔥🔥
A good part to model would be the firing controls like the hand crank for manual turrets.
This is an excellent in the works game and we will watch your careers with great interest!
This just bounce to me on youtube. Anyway looks great. Good luck.
being able to switch shell types without firing what's in the gun would be neat too.
carius wasn't commanding at this time, he was a loader
heard of this game through eta and i am very excited for it! hope to play it when it comes out!
amazing work 👌
FINALLY someone making a good tank game using Unreal Engine! Can’t wait what this will become. And all the real time shrapnel stuff is sick. PLEASE try making the shell penetration mechanics as realistic as possible, so there’s no funny business like in war thunder. Like a simple version of a simulated bullet penetration simulation. Idk how hard that’d be though…
This looks really impressive
Not really sure how much value you guys would get from this since the engines are so vastly different but I would suggest messing around with the TABS mod for teardown for ideas of satisfying visual damage. You can physically see the holes shells make and whole parts will come off with some explosions. Again I know being that teardown was built with destruction in mind and it's systems cannot be replicated in this game that it wouldn't be exact but I think it could work for reference to model some damaged tanks
Really excited to see how this game will turn out to be!
This reminds me alot of Steel Armor Blaze of War but multiplayer, can't wait for it to come out in the future.
Nice to see warthunder finally get some competition, cant wait to see what unique things you guys bring to the table!
Algorithm has blessed me with such an interesting game!
I've been waiting for an fps game to have tanks with modeled interiors, where the player getting into the tank is still modeled and in first person view, and can be hurt by penetrating rounds and overpressure.
Looks like such a cool game, I can't wait until it releases or open alpha/beta begins
great stuff!!
Crazy potential here guys please keep up the good work, I really want a more popular and better game than WT those greedy goblins have held the top for too long and some fresh new faces with bright ideas and the realistic mechanics you are planning will blow away any competition in the MP realistic tank combat. Rooting for you boys.
My biggest gripe with War Thunder is the suspension "simulation" where it looks super artificial.
I'm looking forward to this
I would love to see a system of the armor getting progressively weakenend in one spot if it got shot multiple times and if your armour got pened it would leave a hole even cooler would be you could shoot through the hole i dont know how pheasable it is but would be so cool to see and how different armour like cast and welding would handle differently because of hardness and how brittle it would be
Question: (this is the first video about this game i came across)
Are tanks going to be controlled by one player or a crew of a few players?
Edit: I just saw your first video and it answered my question in the first minute xD
This is so damn cool
It would be very funny if you add boiling vessel damage model in some British tanks if you guys are planning to add one, you can boil tea with it until it gets damaged -and the British crews starts to scream in horror-
But in order to give people a reason to drink tea we need to make it so that every time the crew is tea all modules of the tank starts regenerating /j
Excited!
Looking amazing! If I find a way to support the patreon definitely will, kinda' broke though but happy to see the progress on the game. Will the weather have more gameplay additions than just the visuals of like rain and snow?
Appreciate that! Yeah weather will definitely have physical impacts on the game. E.g. heavy wind will affect ballistics, snow will effect traction and speed... etc
Looks cool
I was ready to suggest that the spall and shrapnel maybe can be handled by RT cores doing some work, but it's not that easy, since even I don't have a GPU with RT capabilities.
I know that this game will never be finished and playable, but still fun video
Don't forget optimisation, almost all successful games have good optimisation
For the damage model, I think it would be a lot more interesting (and difficult) to model individual subcomponents, such as the fuel lines for tanks/engines or for the crew members their torsos vs their legs so a shell hitting their legs isnt lethal.
Additionly, I am a meteorology student and storm chaser and if you need more help with the weather system (idk how experienced the guy you have if theyre a meteorologist ignore this bit) I'm def up to give some advice if you wish to go more in depth there
"We are going to eat the snail with this game 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!!!!!"
To be completely honest - I have very little faith in this project at the current moment, but just hope I'll eat my words someday. With the current state of the gaming industry there's not much left but hope that someone will pull off something new and interesting.
Impressive
Very minor detail but i do have an eye for it: if it is snowing the tank should indeed be covered in snow. but wouldn't it melt on the armor around the engine, the barrel after a shot, the muffler, etc.?
that's knitpicking on the highest level but it'd be awesome
the YT algorythm recommended me this and this sounds very good
its interesting youre aiming for realism even when it comes to repairing the tanks, as in not every tank is capable of repairing the same things, as this is the first game ive heard of doing this
tho im wondering what your source for the "Kanonegranate rot panzer" is as ive only hear the terms "PzGr rot" and "Panzergranate rot"
It looks like it will be a more realistic war thunder/squad? Just hopefully without the grind and pay to win. Regardless, what you currently have and especially the Panzer IV model looks very impressive. Excited to see more.
I’m just three days you’ve close to tripled in size subscriber wise
I'm so glad everyone's had such a positive response 😄
I think it would be cool if amour could get damaged so if you can’t pen a specific plate the more you shoot it the closer you get to penning it.
That's a planned feature
thats will be pretty good game
I feel like this is going to be War Thunder's rival
I wish I could join the patron, but at least I can kinda support the development in other ways
Heroes & Generals The Sequel? Oh man, i'm waiting 🤤😋
Wt but better!👍👍
Having just watched both devlogs the predatory snail is now the hunted…. Looking forward to it. If the full historical campaign mode shakes out you will have won wargaming because not even the “small family company” does that. 😂
Out of curiosity, how will the damage look? For example, will there just be a small decal where a tank was penetrated/hit? Or will it be a bit more detailed? Will there be variations similar to war thunder such as ricochette marks or different types of hit decals depending on what type of shell was used? I'm looking forward to this!
We plan for the damage visualisation to be fairly in-depth. We want to ideally add actual holes where shells have penetrated, along with 3D decals of hit marks for large and small calibre weapons, and scratches for ricochets... etc
@@AcesandArmour That's awesome, man. Can't wait to hear and see more
That looks awesome ngl, also will the tanks be multicrew?
Yes, it'll be multicrew.
@@AcesandArmour Awesome!!
Maybe you can add even a campaign when the game is finished up, like that one story from Battlefield 5 about the "Last Tiger".u
That Panzer IV F1
Nope, it's not, it's an Ausf. E 💀
@@endi3386 nah nvm
@@endi3386 looks same
@@FirlimainWTthe Panzer IV Ausf E was the last model to have the asymmetric front hull, where the F goes back to the flat front plate and also increases the armor to 50mm at the front.
This is definitely an Ausf E. (I also know because the dev team asked me to help them model it)
@@eta320 Eta ur so real for that
It would definitely be something if the Bri'ish tankers will react and could attempt to repair... their shot tea kettle.
While I hope you can do all you are planning, a focus on ww2 and post war seems a lot of work
WW2 Steel alone differs from early war geman to late war german "suprise" quality steel, Different Soviet Plants had different methods, early t-34s lacking sights or gun adjustable optics ,air vents only being added later etc, shermans going from cast to weld etc
And Modern stuff has the problen with classification of materials, meaning aproximations are used.
Hey I’m just curious, but what is the idea on a bailed out crew. What i mean is what happens to player crew members after bailing out of a destroyed tank?
(Btw gonna be a patreon i love the idea of this game.)
That's great to hear! Players control their own characters in first person, so they can do whatever they want. They could pick up a gun and fight alongside the infantry, hitch a ride back to a supply depot to get a new tank, or really whatever they want. It's a mix of a big online battlefield and an open world.
I know it's early days, but are you intending to use a more accurate Dunkelgrau or keeping the typical lighter grey tone everyone uses instead?
Will plugging be simulated in the armor?
Удачи с разработкой. Привет из России)
I'm likely somewhat wrong, but I'm getting some Enlisted vibes coming from this, but if the game was less arcadey and had properly fleshed-out tanks.
Will you be able to machinegun the crew trough holes left by shells?
what scale of warfare are you looking at representing? squad level or platoon level or company level? imo combined arms is at it's best at the largest possible scale
This makes war thunder look like a small indie game in comparison
Holy sh15t keep cooking bro
A game to surpass war tbinder
this amazing, already looking to be better than warthunder or anything Gaijin could greedly scrap together
I have a question: are view port and periscopes modelled (in the sense that you have to look through them)? and if yes would it be in consideration that if the get hit, that you could still "look through" them but since they got hit there would be cracketd glass or even pitch black if it got destroyed compleatly? And also the addition of weather effects like raindrops on the sights
Yes, everything you mentioned is planned.
@@AcesandArmour Splendid. I hope that this whole operation becomes a success
Cant wait! Also, how much do you think the game will cost?
Plan is $15 USD
@@AcesandArmour wow, so cheap for such a high detailed game, just saying, I'd pay 60 for it
You got me.
I dont know if you know about WW2 online but maybe you can get in contact with the guys at CRS to maybe do something with them?
Guys ….. this isn’t going to be a game …….this is another tech demo
No, it's not a tech demo. Being wary of game projects is fine, but don't spread misinformation.
@@AcesandArmour until a game is released or something resembling it, it is an amalgamation of cool tech show casing what the developers are capable of doing. Since there’s no clear path or direction but just armour and ballistic physics it’s a tech demonstration with the facade of it potentially being apart of a game.
Hence why I labeled this a tech demo.
There are a plethora of games that suck off the desires of a open world combat simulation that really are just”check out how cool our gunsmith system is” and that’s all it is
Anyway it would be a dam shame if you guys developed a fkn beautiful game to prove me wrong
Bcs all I see atm
Is hopes and dreams and foundations of what could be.
Prove me wrong and develop a game
I don't think my potato computer can handle this level of details
Sad :(
Don't worry about performance, it's a serious consideration for us, and has been from the beginning of development. Technologies like Nanite in UE5 make the amount of polygons far less from a performance factor than previously, and even then this model is very well optimised, it has less than 300K polygons. For context, that would mean a PS3 from 2006 could run over 50 of them simultaneously.
@@AcesandArmour Nice!
THIS IS THE GAME WHAT I EVER WANTED!
Is the area around a shell hit on armour (blocked or ricocheted) going to be weakened like on a real tank? It would make for interesting battles between small cannons and medium or heavy tanks.
Yes, armour degradation is a planned feature.
@@AcesandArmour Awesome!
How do you guys optimize things