This is the BRIGHTEST 27-inch 240Hz OLED Monitor (Asus PG27AQDM Review)

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  • @GFClocked
    @GFClocked Рік тому +180

    The heatsink is on the driver chip, has almost no effect on the panel temp. The heatsink+venting holes have both combined 5% lower temperatures. The reason why it's brighter is because asus is less cautious, not because of the heatsink. Eotf is an issue with the 42" asus oled also, they haven't fixed eotf for half a year on that. I wouldn't hold my breath on asus fixing eotf
    Edit: also no burn in warranty and no BFI (it is after all aimed at competitive gamers) - it boggles my mind.

    • @spewp
      @spewp Рік тому +17

      Given the generally poor quality of bios/firmware updates that Asus puts out for its other products, I'm not hopeful. Asus is not going to fix issues like this which matter to us. Johnny e-sports gamer isn't going to care about such things. :(

    • @GFClocked
      @GFClocked Рік тому +18

      @@spewp as someone that likes quake, unreal, and the like... I wouldn't mind playing at 1 nit if i got crt level motion persistence. That fact that BFI is not being talked even on a 240hz competitive monitor review is just sad for me. We exist, we want BFI. Please please I'll pay double just gimme good motion.

    • @xm3405
      @xm3405 Рік тому +9

      Bold assumption that it has no effect on panel temp.

    • @GFClocked
      @GFClocked Рік тому +15

      @@xm3405 i mean, i said the heatsink and vents have 5% lower temps. That's not from me, that's official asus number.

    • @marcel1463
      @marcel1463 Рік тому +5

      @@GFClocked Exactly what i thought! I still miss my CRT 😢

  • @Great_America
    @Great_America Рік тому +16

    A firmware update has been released that addresses the HDR color calibration and gamma issues that were noted in this review. Version MCM104 dated 31 May 2023. The firmware update is posted on the Asus website support page for this monitor. Good luck!

  • @-Fenix
    @-Fenix Рік тому +101

    Great review! But is a shame that Asus drop support of their last year's OLED-monitor model ASUS PG42UQ (which cost 1600$!). Asus made firmware with broken and washed out HDR. doesn't seem to want to fix it. It is a very shameful decision of Asus and please be aware.

    • @iwilltouchyourtoes
      @iwilltouchyourtoes Рік тому +19

      They are rubbish all round company you should be careful buying anything asus

    • @-Fenix
      @-Fenix Рік тому

      @@iwilltouchyourtoes yeah. btw @hdtvtest do you have a chance to look at this monitor?

    • @wewillrockyou1986
      @wewillrockyou1986 Рік тому +8

      Never been at all impressed by Asus' products in categories like laptops and monitors, it's very common that they are broken or poorly supported through their lifetime.

    • @or1on89
      @or1on89 Рік тому

      @@iwilltouchyourtoes It depends, their support for their routers is commendable, I can't say the same for monitors and PC peripherals though...

    • @iwilltouchyourtoes
      @iwilltouchyourtoes Рік тому

      @@or1on89 oh yeah forgot they did network stuff

  • @0x8badbeef
    @0x8badbeef Рік тому +7

    10:45 One way to tone down the bright red color of the OSD is to crank up the transparency slider for the OSD.

  • @BSEUNHIR
    @BSEUNHIR Рік тому +9

    This is a proper HDR calibration and cleartype support away from me picking up an oled. We are getting closer.

  • @HegoDamaskII
    @HegoDamaskII Рік тому +16

    I went with the LG model for the HDMI 2.1 support.

    • @drizzlydr4ke
      @drizzlydr4ke 10 місяців тому

      how is it?

    • @ramzi5455
      @ramzi5455 8 місяців тому

      ​@@drizzlydr4kedimmmmmm! I had the LG for one month until Yesterday, i loved my LG for the design, the amazing picture quality, the response time combined with the 240hz but bro... Its fucking dimmmmmmm, tried my best to get used to the LG brightness only to keep the HDMI 2.1 as i have a PC and a PS5 in my setup but its really too dimm for me knowing that i play in a Dark room (i used the LG for competitive games, i play solo games on an 55 inch LG C2 Oled) , i sold it and took an Asus (which arrive tomorrow).

  • @madpistol
    @madpistol Рік тому +33

    As soon as you said the Asus monitor doesn't support HDMI 2.1, that was the end of it for me. The LG 27 OLED has 2 HDMI 2.1 ports, and both support 1440p 240hz AND 4K120 natively (it downscales the 4K image to 1440p). Asus might have the brighter monitor, but LG is winning on the feature and versatility front.

    • @phantom498
      @phantom498 Рік тому

      is that realistically that big of a deal and make that big of difference in picture quality though?

    • @macberg5806
      @macberg5806 Рік тому +5

      Why do you even need 2.1?? Most people are using display port anyways. 2.1 is most useful for console gamers and let’s be honest, if you’re spending this much on just a monitor odds are you aren’t gaming on a console

    • @toner8486
      @toner8486 Рік тому +5

      @@macberg5806 what happens if you own both console and pc? cmon gamers play both most likely, so 2.1 is kinda of a must to take advantage of both worlds

    • @TheEnd0117
      @TheEnd0117 Рік тому +2

      @@toner8486 This exactly. I have a great gaming PC but I also have PS5 and Series X so 2.1 is a must. Its a shame that the LG isnt as bright as this one. Guess I'm waiting till next year for an OLED.

    • @toner8486
      @toner8486 Рік тому

      @@TheEnd0117 i know but it seems its a great monitor, thats the bad side it dont get bright enough,

  • @Keivz
    @Keivz 9 місяців тому +1

    Get the LG service remote if you have the LG monitor to get rid of the vignetting which greatly improves the perceived brightness. There's a setting there that will give a slight boost in peak brightness as well. It can be found for

  • @hugevibez
    @hugevibez Рік тому +4

    Great point on the UI colors at the tail end of the video. On my, now 7-year old, LG E6 OLED the first signs of burn-in were absolutely the WebOS UI elements. In the version of WebOS that TV uses UI navigation uses the colored mutli-function buttons and leaves the UI elements on the screen and will you know it, the only part of that that has burned in is the red button which incidentally was on the screen most of the time. After that, the UA-cam logo started to appear (oddly enough I've been spared the Netflix logo).
    First time this appeared was 3 years ago, now the display uniformity is starting to fall apart as well, which is the real issue of burn-in and not logos since this can't be mitigated quite as easily as some parts of the screen just get used more in the framing and have to output a higher average luminance level than other parts. Most of the pixels affected by this are situated around the rule of thirds/golden ratio. Something you can clearly demonstrate by displaying full-screen magenta, showing horizontal lines of pixels around the 1/3rd and 2/3rd mark, that are no longer outputting the same luminance as the other pixels on this panel and this shows a drop off on the far edges of the display (that get used less often). You can also see more of these dead pixels in the center of the display and some spots along the vertical slices of the rule of third. Basically, displaying the aformentioned full-screen magenta shows you a heatmap of which parts of the panel have been outputting most of the light.
    Note however, that this TV doesn't employ any static logo dimming algorithm and maybe that alleviates some of those problems. It does have pixel shift, which was supposed to mitigate this issue, but it seems that LG realized the issue with bright logos as they introduces the static logo dimming algorithm in the following year.

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp Рік тому

      Obviously running the pixel refresh process doesn't help these issues as the burn in is permanent right?

    • @hugevibez
      @hugevibez Рік тому

      @@djayjp If only it was that easy, I have tried many times. I purchased this TV for around 4000 euros and to have these issues initially show up after only 3/4 years was painful to say the least.

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp Рік тому

      @@hugevibez Argh that really really sucks. I hope my BX holds up a little better.

    • @wombat5252
      @wombat5252 Рік тому +1

      @@djayjp Yeah older OLED's were more prone of course. They've gotten far better of course but can still get burn it. I bet the new OLED TV's will last at least 5-8 years now before it happens. If I got at least 5 years, I'd be perfectly happy. I just bought the LG C2 few months back. Got it at the time for $1700 65 inch version so if I get 5 years, I Can;t complain.

    • @hugevibez
      @hugevibez Рік тому

      @@wombat5252 I think you don't have those UI elements constantly on the screen anymore, plus there's the logo luminance adjustment algorithm saving your display from the youtube logo. The uniformity issues you can only see on full screen with certain colors and a trained eye. Maybe I can see it in other scenes too or it's just placebo. Hell in a lot of scenes even the logo burn in doesn't show up clearly*. At any rate it's not quite as big an issue as it might read. Sadly I don't think OLEDs are gonna last a very long time either.
      *It looks different than I imagined it would look. It's not an image burned in to the panel per sé, it's more like the exact spot and shape of the logo doesn't get the same brightness as the rest of the panel. For the uniformity now imagine just an organic detoration of the panel where certain parts are just darker, you can't really see it in normal scenes. Only with very bright colors it becomes an issue. Still for the price of mine and the time it lasted certainly unacceptable, but for a lower price and a longer time without quite as intrusive logo burn in certainly much less of an issue. I know I paid early adopter fee, and I did enjoy having an oled tv many years before it became the norm. It was worth it in the end, since I had waited for OLED technology in TVs for so long.

  • @Goose093
    @Goose093 Рік тому +4

    Got the LG 27GR95QE, Totally worth it

  • @grimdicer152
    @grimdicer152 Рік тому +169

    And the wait for the perfect monitor continues...

    • @walker2006au
      @walker2006au Рік тому +10

      Pretty close for my needs. Just tossing up between this and the QD-OLED ultrawides

    • @InnuendoXP
      @InnuendoXP Рік тому +15

      at least this market is being catered to at all. Though I still can't bring myself to spend more than 700 on a 27 inch screen. Maybe we'll get some disaster stories about the ASUS monitor having burn-in in 6 months so we can scoop some up for cheap

    • @walker2006au
      @walker2006au Рік тому

      ​@@InnuendoXP won't see burn in the WOLED's are too mature. Only QD-OLED seem to burn in now as they don't have white sub pixel and less mature, but it's even hard to burn them in.

    • @maegnificant
      @maegnificant Рік тому +31

      5000 Nits, 1000hz, QD-WOLED Monitor coming in 2054

    • @InnuendoXP
      @InnuendoXP Рік тому

      @@maegnificant honestly I'd settle for this monitor with USB Upstream + charging & no burn-in risk for $600 or less as a 'perfect' display.
      So in 2048 when mini-LED arrives at this market & price point probably.

  • @zefanjaf
    @zefanjaf Рік тому +4

    There is a firmware update (21-04-2023) on the asus site that optimizes HDR color performance

  • @MHRav3n
    @MHRav3n Рік тому +4

    Monitor got another update(mcm104), would love to hear what you think about it now. It def really improved the hdr imo. Could onLy get better if we could remove the matt coating and ad a glossy to it :D

  • @TheSlex666
    @TheSlex666 Рік тому +1

    This was super helpful. I would love to see a review of the Corsair 27QHD240 if possible - it's another MLA OLED monitor, but includes DP-alt mode/USB-C and a KVM

  • @marrow94
    @marrow94 Рік тому +74

    No HDMI 2.1, absolutely incredible.

    • @ethanortiz5249
      @ethanortiz5249 Рік тому +9

      Probably did this to get it the same price as the LG OLED. But why is my question, I can't imagine HDMI 2.1 raising the price more then $150 or $200

    • @nc33228
      @nc33228 Рік тому +11

      It’s so funny. Glad I went with LG, can’t even get native 1440x240 with the asus without compression through the 2.0 port

    • @fernandoguzman8201
      @fernandoguzman8201 Рік тому

      Can the ps5 be connected to displayport to get less input lag?

    • @gettcouped
      @gettcouped Рік тому +2

      Question I did have is do you need hdmi 2.1 on console when the max res is only 1440p? What are the advantages that a 2.1 port can bring in this application?

    • @fernandoguzman8201
      @fernandoguzman8201 Рік тому +1

      @@gettcouped afaik hdmi 2.1 would render 4k and the screen would downscale to 1440p

  • @R0ZZAY
    @R0ZZAY Рік тому +11

    I would love for you to test against a proper high end LED LCD gaming monitor such as the PG27AQN I've seen videos of the LCD refreshing faster than an OLED when using a slow motion camera at 6500fps perhaps your testing will bear different results but I'd love to know for certain if OLED is truly better for competitive gaming then the very best LCD monitors

  • @Terrobility
    @Terrobility Рік тому +4

    I wonder what Vincent thinks about going back to matte panels. It seems both LG and Samsung aren't doing glossy panels like they used to do.

    • @jaimem1788
      @jaimem1788 Рік тому

      He kinda mentioned it @0:25 matte coating mutes reflections in bright room at expense of screen clarity. Pretty sure he talks about it more in some older videos pretty sure he is all for glossy since he uses his OLED displays as intended in dark room with no lights LOL. Personally I prefer matte since I used multiple displays and reflections from other displays annoying not even about bright lights.

    • @Terrobility
      @Terrobility Рік тому

      @@jaimem1788 The glossy panels aren't reflective glossy though. They have some sort of anti-glare stuff that dampens reflections. Try shining a light on an LG OLED and you'll see that it's not reflecting light fully.

  • @eenie9
    @eenie9 5 місяців тому

    I trust your reviews. I'm getting this monitor

  • @ogremair803
    @ogremair803 Рік тому +2

    I got the Alienware AW3423DW and a friend recently brought this new Asus Oled 27. It's my first glossy screen and my god, how different it is and much better than the Matte of the Asus, I can't believe it's not offered. Spectrum (now dough), having a glossy option is much better, if they managed to deliver to customers on time.

    • @jw3384
      @jw3384 Рік тому

      Besides the matte finish does the alienware look way better being qdoled? And is the brightness pretty close? I'm stuck on the 2

    • @ogremair803
      @ogremair803 Рік тому

      @@jw3384 Honestly looks way better on the Alienware, even the brightness is higher especially on HDR content. Samsung's version of QD Oled is good too, but the lack of fans in it stops it from achieving higher brightness. I suggest looking at both before making a purchase, otherwise go for the Alienware. BTW, DW also has slightly more brightness than the DWF.

  • @WilliamSmith-hf8um
    @WilliamSmith-hf8um Рік тому +1

    Do either of them have black frame insertion? Black frame insertion combined with 240 FPS should look incredible

  • @VENAXIS
    @VENAXIS 10 місяців тому

    Can you do a quick review video with Asus' new firmware? Apparently they fixed the issues you mentioned in their latest December firmware updates. Thank you!!

  • @lukashavel7690
    @lukashavel7690 Рік тому +4

    I am still sad, that you did not test miniled Samsung Odyssey Neo G7/G8. Granted, you would have to view it more for general PC work. But it works well with Xbox-series-x as well. Although there is no dolby vision there. Samsung is still about HDR10+. And XSX does not have that one.

  • @SteveSmith-cm1hx
    @SteveSmith-cm1hx Рік тому +1

    Great review Vince. But as soon as I heard no HDMI 2.1 it was a hard pass for me.

  • @lrmcatspaw1
    @lrmcatspaw1 Рік тому +1

    I have a question.
    You mention that the matt coating sacrifices outright clarity in a bright environment.
    Does it NOT sacrifice clarity (or basically how is the grain/clarity) in a dark or pitch black environment?

  • @aaronwalker5493
    @aaronwalker5493 Рік тому

    Vincent,
    With the recent price drops S95B is very popular and , could you do a ideal TV settings video for movies and PS5 HDR settings as well? There are other such videos on S95B but not sure if they actually know what they tweak.

  • @dysnXO
    @dysnXO Рік тому +1

    can you comparison in brightness between LG 27inch OLED 240hz and LG 45inch ultrawide OLED 240hz? Or LG C2 42 vs LG 45 ultrawide OLED 240hz ?

  • @DevilRoom360
    @DevilRoom360 Рік тому +3

    is there a risk of burn-in both monitors? I'm trying to pick one, scared when it comes to burning. or should I wait? my current monitor is a 2k Asus monitor I bought years back, maybe 7 years... still works wonders. but not as good as an OLED monitor.

    • @HonorableMrRager
      @HonorableMrRager Рік тому

      im typing this on the lg ultra gear... i was scared about the brightness when i first started using it even after calibrating it but... idk. it seems to be very nice so far. I havent tested a game yet. just hdr content on youtube. ill try it for a bit, if it doesnt wow me in 3 days its going back to best buy and im going back to my acer nitro 144hz 1080p.. lol

    • @aviownzlol
      @aviownzlol Рік тому

      @@HonorableMrRagerdid you keep it

  • @toddpeterson5904
    @toddpeterson5904 Рік тому +1

    Can you give us a rundown on the new Sony BVM-HX3110. I know that it will be insanely expensive, but will this be what post houses use to grade 4000 nit HDR?

  • @maegnificant
    @maegnificant Рік тому +12

    Can you test the Samsung g8 oled please?

  • @saydji
    @saydji Рік тому

    Will you cover the neo g8 oled ? Superb video !

  • @r4iv3n_ITA
    @r4iv3n_ITA Рік тому

    Can't wait to see the MZ2000-1500 TV from Panasonic with MLA and their great heatsink system... Talking with an insider him would suggest that some models of the new lineup, will be equipped with 4 hdmi 2.1 full bandwidth, I hope for an MZ1500 with MLA 4 HDMI 2.1!

  • @iflankgxd6559
    @iflankgxd6559 Рік тому +5

    The LG just came out with a firmware update for the brightness so it’s not that bad anymore

    • @n.erdbeer
      @n.erdbeer Рік тому +3

      The brightness increase in SDR was 5% only.

    • @hdtvtest
      @hdtvtest  Рік тому +18

      @iFlank Gxd: Our comparison was based upon the LG having been updated to the latest firmware version.

  • @Delt4Brav0
    @Delt4Brav0 Рік тому

    Hey, Vincent! Thanks for your reviews. Is there any chance you can review new Philips Envia 42 monitor? ❤

  • @TheRuiner0987
    @TheRuiner0987 Рік тому +1

    Is there any reason that everybody is not using Auto HDR with the HDR calibration tool to combat the brightness problem

  • @brightbluesmurf
    @brightbluesmurf Рік тому +2

    Wondering did you use the latest firmware on the LG Vincent that increases brightness by around 5%?

    • @hdtvtest
      @hdtvtest  Рік тому +7

      @brightbluesmurf: Yes we did. Any increase was genuinely negligible.

  • @RealSeth
    @RealSeth Рік тому +1

    @hdtvtest Did you use the newest firmware (MCM103) from Asus, released on 2023/04/10? Since it does "Optimize HDR color performance".

    • @alexfernandez8083
      @alexfernandez8083 Рік тому

      Yes

    • @RealSeth
      @RealSeth Рік тому

      @@alexfernandez8083 Thx, i saw i was not the first one to ask that ;-)

  • @wewillrockyou1986
    @wewillrockyou1986 Рік тому

    Shadow boost is probably just there to exaggerate shadow detail in SDR modes, it's called black equaliser on benq and some other monitor vendors and it's intended to provide better clarity in games not better colour accuracy.

  • @SteffonLove
    @SteffonLove Рік тому +1

    I noticed ASUS added a firmware update on their website addressing the HDR color issue. Has anyone confirmed this fixed it?

  • @NoverianSnowCone
    @NoverianSnowCone Рік тому +6

    See, I'm still kind of siding with the LG model. By the time I get an opportunity to game on the PC, it's always evening anyways so I don't mind that it's not as bright. Plus, I think I'd be very routine with the pixel refresh etc.

  • @splindizzle5413
    @splindizzle5413 Рік тому +1

    please show us what settings to use

  • @shmookins
    @shmookins Рік тому

    4:54 This may be a small thing, but why with such high end monitors and tech don't these monitors have smooth text showing in their menu settings? The text is so pixelated it looks like what's on those old phones from the 90's.

  • @markkelsall6324
    @markkelsall6324 Рік тому +1

    Hello, I really appreciate the detail you go into with your videos. Please could you do a video explaining the 'real cinema' setting in LG TVs? I see so much contradictory information on forum pages and I trust you would provide all the information necessary for understanding it. My main question regarding it currently would be, should I have real cinema on along with the match frame rate setting on apple TV, or one off and the other on, or even both off? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX Рік тому

      HDR is a gadget 90% of content looks worse than without it dolby vision is garbage real cinema is random in the end only what pleases your eyes matter and certainly not "presets" you have to take 35min in the settings and tweak things yourself bot on the monitor and in windows/console settings the only people who should care about consistant colors are editors who actually plan to publish or print content and they don't buy those monitors

  • @abavariannormiepleb9470
    @abavariannormiepleb9470 Рік тому

    Could LG please just release a version of their G3 MLA TV models with DisplayPort inputs?

  • @johnsiayor4437
    @johnsiayor4437 Рік тому +1

    Best monitor I've ever had. Make sure to update the firmware (and have a functional displayport cable).

    • @spookyman9994
      @spookyman9994 Рік тому

      care to tell me , how to update the firmware ?

    • @andynonimuss6298
      @andynonimuss6298 Рік тому

      If the PG27AQDM had an Nvidia Reflex Analyzer, I would have already bought it.

  • @anan7s294
    @anan7s294 Рік тому

    Can u make a review on 42” ASUS ROG OLED monitor?

  • @Weaver_Games
    @Weaver_Games Рік тому +2

    Please make a gloss option

  • @Sapca1111
    @Sapca1111 Рік тому +1

    Great video, I was really wishing to get this but I will hold back either for the QD OLED 2 monitors that should appear next year or in 2025.
    Any chance you can review the Samsung Gaming Odyssey G8 G85SB?
    I was also wishing to get that one. But if they all are not that great will definitely skip to the next generation. I already have a Samsung 28 4k 144hz HDMI 2.1. monitor, S28AG700.

  • @hermanhilling7702
    @hermanhilling7702 Рік тому

    Hello HDTV test, I need to talk to you, it's very important, how do we go about that, in the safest way.

  • @fernandoguzman8201
    @fernandoguzman8201 Рік тому

    Am I missing something? Didn’t see the actual hdr measurements.

  • @jvritola4191
    @jvritola4191 11 місяців тому

    Just ordered Asus 27 Oled👌

  • @walker2006au
    @walker2006au Рік тому +2

    Monitors unboxed got in trouble for releasing their video too early.. Asus gave them two dates.. Hope you aren't the same.

  • @AndyS2K76
    @AndyS2K76 Рік тому

    yesterday the lg comes and i'm very happy. Using 2.1 hdmi with 3090 seems better than display port. Also windows has a built in hdr setup and now the screen seems to me so bright that i don't need more...

    • @bee1445
      @bee1445 Рік тому +3

      3090 only has 2.0 hdmi tho

  • @aliessa8515
    @aliessa8515 Рік тому

    Have you not gotten the QD OLEDS ?

  • @wafer2582
    @wafer2582 Рік тому

    Have you try the windows 11 HDR calibrator with the monitors? I pre-order the LG (20% off $600 cheaper then the Asus) and am wondering if I made the right decision

    • @BOLOYOO
      @BOLOYOO Рік тому +3

      20% off and you're still bitching? Man, just enjoy it. It's superior to any LED monitor and you bought it for relatively cheap. Cause there is no perfect monitor on the market, once again, just enjoy it, cause it's a great screen. I wish I will get my one soon.

  • @davethebulb
    @davethebulb Рік тому +18

    Asus have a poor track record when it comes to fixing issues/updating FW. Therefore, I wouldn't hold your breath when it comes to waiting for an HDR fix. I'm hoping that LG come up with an improved 27" OLED monitor in terms of brightness and text clarity.

    • @1337SoTTicK
      @1337SoTTicK Рік тому

      Would you recommend giving up the max brightness for better HDR and buying the LG counterpart instead? That is if I have understood the problem correctly. New to monitor technology. 😅

    • @matthewrezuke8130
      @matthewrezuke8130 Рік тому

      @@1337SoTTicK Don't hold your breath.. they released a firmware update to improve the brightness, and it barely did anything.

    • @E-danger47
      @E-danger47 Рік тому +2

      @@1337SoTTicK Dude trust me I bought my LG OLED the first day it dropped and was heavily disappointed by the brightness. But I’ve been using it this whole time and it’s great. You get used to it and it doesn’t bother you anymore. I have no regret buying it.

    • @Shikogi1
      @Shikogi1 Рік тому +2

      ​@E13T Feel exactly the same way, was not super thrilled at first but now after 1 month of ownership I'm loving it!

    • @davethebulb
      @davethebulb Рік тому

      ​@@1337SoTTicK No. However, If LG could implement a heatsink, increase both SDR & HDR brightness & fix the annoying text fringing issue, then they would have a winner on their hands IMHO.

  • @MrVader97
    @MrVader97 Рік тому +1

    Has anyone experienced some of the more typical issues related to OLEDs, like the near black overshoot or banding when looking/playing games that have quite dark scenes? I was noticing many videos of Oled TVs having this known issues, which is quite noticeable and was curious if anyone has had some info. It seems that in the reviews these aspects have never been explored

    • @Drack_077
      @Drack_077 Рік тому

      I didn't experience any near-black overshoot. No banding either, except ofc while looking at compressed videos (UA-cam/Twitch/etc) or in-game cinematic using compressed videos.
      But... HDR on this monitor is still broken. People need to know this.

  • @StevoHDA
    @StevoHDA Рік тому

    yay, thsnks Vincent

  • @Dx-so7jm
    @Dx-so7jm Рік тому +1

    Why mention not being able to play 4k 120 on console ? Its a 1440p monitor

  • @schrotty
    @schrotty Рік тому

    Which settings are recommend?

  • @MotoCat91
    @MotoCat91 Рік тому

    Curious how some new 2023 OLEDs + MLA + heatsink displays have a maximum brightness value of..... the same as my 2019 LG B9, a 4 year old midrange OLED that when new was considered to be pretty average in terms of HDR brightness

    • @DasAntiNaziBroetchen
      @DasAntiNaziBroetchen Рік тому +1

      Your LG B9 is likely 55" and above. The pixel density is lower, and heat dissipation is greater. This is my understanding of the issue.

  • @R0ZZAY
    @R0ZZAY Рік тому

    Did you test using the latest firmware I'm pretty sure there was one released a day or two ago

    • @hdtvtest
      @hdtvtest  Рік тому +2

      @R0ZZAY: Yes, we tested on the latest firmware of MCM103.

  • @lukerestlessstudios
    @lukerestlessstudios Рік тому

    And I can’t seem to find it anywhere to order.

  • @bobwood4304
    @bobwood4304 Рік тому

    Does Firmware update solve the issues? 'Optimize HDR color accuracy and 30% color saturation improvement'

  • @MM.MischiefManaged
    @MM.MischiefManaged Рік тому

    Please review the Corsair next.

  • @saerosowns6961
    @saerosowns6961 Рік тому

    i wonder if this monitor review was made with the new firmware asus recently made available on their website made available april 10th? can u confirm firmware update u made the review with sir ?
    this is the new one just made available on the 10th of april.
    Optimize HDR color performance
    Version MCM103

  • @JTCPingas
    @JTCPingas Рік тому +1

    Stupid question, but does anyone know if the PG27AQDM runs the pixel cleaning when it goes to standby, or do you have to run it manually?

  • @nfugitt89
    @nfugitt89 Рік тому

    Good start, better than LG, but numerous flaws such as warranty, HDMI 2.0, and the brightness is still just way too low. Probably going to take a few years to get to the ideal.

  • @-gg8342
    @-gg8342 Рік тому

    Hey, do you think a 27inch 1440p 144hz oled be sold?

  • @ricardoosegueda9286
    @ricardoosegueda9286 Рік тому +2

    I've been debating if I should get the LG or wait for the Asus to the point that I had order the LG, but decided to cancel it to wait for the Asus reviews. I have to say that while the Asus has higher highs (brightness), it also seems more inconsistent in HDR content. It's also a tough choice since LG has a better track record with OLED and burn-in and I probably prefer their design over the ASUS.

    • @rayenwoomed5323
      @rayenwoomed5323 Рік тому

      My suggestion would be to wait for Corsair's version to release next month. They claim it will have 1000 nit brightness, with HDMI 2.1, PLUS a 3 year burn-in warranty.

    • @MM.MischiefManaged
      @MM.MischiefManaged Рік тому +1

      @@rayenwoomed5323 I got the Corsair and its absolute garbage when it comes to HDR. Washed out colors with locked settings.

    • @rayenwoomed5323
      @rayenwoomed5323 Рік тому

      @@MM.MischiefManaged Damn thanks for giving me the heads up.

    • @christianrosado8838
      @christianrosado8838 Рік тому +1

      @@rayenwoomed5323 Their brightness claim was bullshit

    • @rayenwoomed5323
      @rayenwoomed5323 Рік тому +1

      @@christianrosado8838 Yup. Now that reviews are out, we know that their brightness claim was untrue.

  • @EndoV2
    @EndoV2 Рік тому

    Does the Asus support 1440p 120hz w/ VRR & HDR on the PS5?

  • @andynonimuss6298
    @andynonimuss6298 Рік тому

    If the PG27AQDM had an Nvidia Reflex Analyzer, I would have already bought it.

  • @amariel3310
    @amariel3310 Рік тому +4

    The reason the Asus monitor gets up to 250 nits isn't because Asus added better cooling. In fact, the extra cooling doesn't do anything for the panel, and overall is only a 5% increase in cooling performance.
    Asus is simply running the panel HARD, while LG is running it at it's normal operating brightness. The reason QD-OLED can run up to 250 nits full-white screen easier than LG's WOLED is because it simply has less layers through which brightness must penetrate, and is easier and more efficient than WOLED. Essentially, while the pixels provide up to 250 nits brightness, that brightness is easier to produce, requires less voltage and generates less heat compared to 250 nits on a WOLED display.
    If you want brighter OLED panels, you will simply have to wait. The 2024 variants will not only be better as they're next gen, the WOLED version will also reach up to 275 nits full white panel brightness and peak 1300 nits. QD-OLED will be brighter, but the details aren't known yet. We may possibly see 350-400 nits full white QD-OLED by 2024 to 2025.

    • @BangSkeeet
      @BangSkeeet Рік тому +2

      OLED tech has had 10 entire years to mature. If it isn't figured out by now, it never will be. The thing holding it back is too much brightness will cause burn-in, no matter what. No matter the heatsink. No matter if W or QD OLED. Next year nothing will change.
      The answer is MicroLED or just miniLED if you want true HDR with bright objects larger than 10% windows without aggressive ABL. Both Tech still 5-10yrs away from actually being optimized and perfect. But QDOLED has peaked sadly.

    • @andrewmorris3479
      @andrewmorris3479 Рік тому

      My 15.6” QHD 240Hz Samsung OLED hits just just shy of 400 nits full field white but they are power hogs with 100% APL so it’ll be hard to hit that figure on a 34” ultrawide but I’m sure they’ll figure it out.

    • @ameserich
      @ameserich Рік тому

      Akctually 🤓 the reason QD-OLED is brighter is because they use QuantumDot Color Converter instead of WOLEDs which use conventional Color Filter

    • @ameserich
      @ameserich Рік тому

      @@BangSkeeet QD-OLED is the latest development on OLEDs and even this new tech couldnt fix the problem, the only remaining upgrade for OLED is to use Phospor Blue which should be able to push full screen brightness to 400nits but it wont fix the problem. ABL would still kick in possibly dropping upto 200-300nits. Hehe OLED is still OLED
      In the case of MicroLED im also kinda not convinced. Since the LED are too small they will be less efficient and because they are small they will have shorter life span right?
      On the LCD/MiniLED front. Upgrades such as use of QuantumDot Color Filter and OD-Zero may be needed to improve translucense to completely eliminate blooming. Yknow less backlight light not only means efficiency it also means higher native contrast ratio and less off-angle blooming, but all of this comes at a cost and i mean literally money wise. While this could become way cheaper than OLED and MicroLED, they will need to make changes on how they manufacture LCDs and initial adoption of this tech for mass market will be expensive

    • @BangSkeeet
      @BangSkeeet Рік тому +1

      @@andrewmorris3479 The best OLED display right now is the iPhone's 14 ProMax OLED. Can sustain 2300 nits outside and its fullscreen is something like a uniform 1000 nits. Doubt the burn-in is any better (might be worse) and the rec2020 may not be as good as QD-OLED, but it still packs a great punch in contrast/highlights in HDR content. It's also extremely accurate, especially SDR reference.
      Still not as good as a flagship miniLED HDR showcases like a Samsung or Hisense U8H when playing it side by side - especially watching things that has higher APL and explosions.
      OLED has its specific dark room dark content niche which it has mastered. miniLED in 2023 is a jack of all trades, a brown belt in ever HDR spec needed for the full HDR experience. OLED has peaked.

  • @pirx9798
    @pirx9798 Рік тому +3

    0:25 gaming monitors for gamers who apparently can't turn off the light...

  • @babochee
    @babochee Рік тому

    Corsair 27QHD240 review when??

  • @jaimem1788
    @jaimem1788 Рік тому

    @8:33 Deal breaker if you plan on using this on console can't even do 4k@120Hz (Also no Dolby Vision support I see)! Anyways, the more OLED displays they come out with the issues remain the same: random color tints and black banding at low brightness @7:25 Near black handling with flashing artifacts and black crush near black @3:07 Desaturated colors @3:41 and finally fuzzy text and color fringing @9:46. But yeah main reason I wouldn't buy is lack of console compatibility making this mainly a PC monitor but isn't even the best for that due to text issues I mention above so who is this monitor really aimed at?

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 Рік тому

    I just wish someone would build a glossy OLED monitor already.

  • @HDRGamingHub
    @HDRGamingHub Рік тому

    Vincent...they already issued firmware update to fix the hdr color but it looks like it doesnt do much.

    • @hdtvtest
      @hdtvtest  Рік тому +3

      @ACFUN: Our HDR colour measurement is done on the latest firmware update of MCM103 at the time we filmed this video in April 2023.

    • @HDRGamingHub
      @HDRGamingHub Рік тому

      @@hdtvtest That is good to know. So by the looks of it they still didn't fix the HDR colours .... Do you think is still worth buying this monitor over the LG variant ?

    • @HDRGamingHub
      @HDRGamingHub Рік тому

      @@thomasshears4236 I had pre order last week for the LG but after i asked them ETA for the order i was being told by them that they have no ETA and i can cancel the pre order if i want. So i canceled.... I think i am going to wait another year or two for something better. The Asus one is bright but has 2 important flaws. They are pushing the brightness really hard ...hence the bad hdr colours and has some black crushing also.

  • @bilalcemal
    @bilalcemal 10 місяців тому

    I have color blindness, I am playing Pubg and I cannot see the enemies dressed in black next to me. Which panel monitor should I buy? IPS panel, Va panel or OLED? I want it to be the monitor that shows black best. I want the problem of not being able to see the enemy while playing Pubg to be eliminated.

  • @emilianoescobar1015
    @emilianoescobar1015 Рік тому

    Dear Teo, I am an avid follower of your site. 27 months ago I suscribed to Surfshark per your recommendations and to support the channel. As you are listened by LG and other companies after telling them whats wrong with the producst and thanks to you we have firmwares updated, please: ask Surfshark to allow the user to turn off the auto-renewal. The slider is there but it wont work.

  • @ouki4925
    @ouki4925 Рік тому +4

    42 inch needs an MLA and heatsink…

  • @bobbydrake8965
    @bobbydrake8965 Рік тому +1

    But I don't get it, can't you just calibrate the display to accuracy without having to wait for ASUS firmware update?

    • @GFClocked
      @GFClocked Рік тому +4

      How are you going to calibrate eotf tracking though?

    • @Nicholas_Steel
      @Nicholas_Steel Рік тому +4

      Most of the settings are disabled in HDR mode, did you not watch the video?

    • @bobbydrake8965
      @bobbydrake8965 Рік тому

      @@Nicholas_Steel but when you use a calibration software, doesn't it take you into it's own software say if you hook it up to a PC that allows you to communicate and embed a LUT or profile after calibration?

  • @barrybondz4483
    @barrybondz4483 Рік тому

    Nobody talks about peak nit brightness with uniform mode on to combat sdr brightness flicker.

  • @gigantoad3261
    @gigantoad3261 Рік тому

    I wonder why these OLEDS don't have black frame insertion.

  • @fernandoguzman8201
    @fernandoguzman8201 Рік тому

    Its probably not possible to fix the hdr cause of the white subpixel, all other woled screens are less bright thus more accurate in hdr

  • @HDRGamingHub
    @HDRGamingHub Рік тому

    Should i get this monitor even with the hdr color issues ?! Is it going to be that bad ? I really want to order this monitor but i don't know how big of a problem is the hdr color innacuracy .

    • @FatedVion
      @FatedVion Рік тому

      They fixed it, there was an update for the monitor

    • @HDRGamingHub
      @HDRGamingHub Рік тому

      @@FatedVion No they didn't fix it . Vincent just replied that the review is done with the latest firmware.... If you watch the review you can see that is still having bad colors in HDR and some black crushing aswell.

    • @akn1510
      @akn1510 Рік тому

      @@HDRGamingHubWhat monitor asus or lg?

    • @HDRGamingHub
      @HDRGamingHub Рік тому

      @@akn1510 The Asus. I preordered the Asus one . I should have it by 3rd may .

    • @bledarrm7976
      @bledarrm7976 Рік тому

      @@HDRGamingHub be aware the hdr is so shit and completely washed out.

  • @ando7020
    @ando7020 Рік тому

    I wanted to warn everyone that the hidden menu can be accessed with the in-start button on the factory remote control. yesterday I updated the firmware and the only value that has changed is "mem count" (before it was [user 200] [fac 109] now it's [user 366] [fac 295] ). Does anyone know what this means? finally my lg 27 in hdr with "gamer 1" mode does not turn off all the pixels but needs to be calibrated with the windows 11 app

  • @comgeturs
    @comgeturs Рік тому

    I just want a glossy OLED 240hz 4k monitor. How long must I wait.

    • @chy.0190
      @chy.0190 Рік тому

      end of next year apparently

  • @x32i77
    @x32i77 Рік тому +1

    I hope there will be 4k 144hz at 27 or 31.5 inch

  • @rolly084
    @rolly084 4 місяці тому

    I think you need to test with new firmware mcm107, near perfect

  • @753test
    @753test Рік тому

    did this video take the firmware update from ASUS addressing hdr in account?

    • @hdtvtest
      @hdtvtest  Рік тому

      @Quen.95: Yes, this review is based on firmware MCM103, the latest at the time we published this video in April 2023.

  • @theconsolekiller7113
    @theconsolekiller7113 Рік тому

    Almost purchased but wont fuck with that matte screen. Ill wait

  • @gohanpcgamer
    @gohanpcgamer Рік тому

    Is that ASUS Monitor using a mediatek chipset?

  • @keijidan2276
    @keijidan2276 Рік тому

    hello problem inputlag, monitor unboxer and rtings 3 ms 240 hz ?

  • @matthewrezuke8130
    @matthewrezuke8130 Рік тому

    I really hope the new C3 will be better than the C2 (42") going to use it as a monitor..

  • @StaySic4Ever
    @StaySic4Ever Рік тому

    Still yet to see how these fair long term with longer per day desktop use and in game with static UIs too. Also I always remember phone displays being able to hit near 2000nits on OLED is insane and even on battery and small thin device. But yeah, still waiting for those next gen panels we know.

    • @rahb2096
      @rahb2096 Рік тому

      Phones turn off these displays don’t get turned off for long periods of time

    • @StaySic4Ever
      @StaySic4Ever Рік тому

      @@rahb2096 true, though still you could have a phone on when outside on sun when it boosts to max, so really you could use them for longer then. but I meant for monitors for peaks too, also the full screen brightness generally kinda low.

    • @rahb2096
      @rahb2096 Рік тому

      @@StaySic4Ever phones def do get burn in after years but a lot of people replace their phone more frequently then a monitor. Phones also have billions more put into r&d since they’re far more profitable and far more people are buying phones vs monitors.

    • @StaySic4Ever
      @StaySic4Ever Рік тому

      I have near decade old phone and only burn in is slightly on notification bar for stats. but yeah I don't use it much. samsung making oled phone displays and other, they have experience, so we'll see how much they can improve for next gen displays

  • @lukario223
    @lukario223 4 місяці тому

    Hey, anyone knows which gen this display is?

  • @g.e.o.r.g.e...
    @g.e.o.r.g.e... Рік тому +1

    Apple had the right idea, an all aluminum frame that acts as a giant heatsink.

  • @PCMonitors
    @PCMonitors Рік тому +1

    Although there is overprovision of pixels (an 'active area'), the "screen move" feature absolutely causes the image to crop even with the mildest setting. It runs off the screen, beyond that active area. It's very annoying even for such a feature and it's good you can disable it.

    • @hdtvtest
      @hdtvtest  Рік тому +6

      @PC Monitors: Strange, we've just retested for 30 minutes on all [Screen Move] intensities after reading your comment, and there's definitely no cropping on our review sample loaded with firmware MCM103.

    • @davidmartinek5257
      @davidmartinek5257 Рік тому

      @@hdtvtest Did you use the MCM103 version in the video? Supposedly the HDR performance got improved, but many users claim it didn't do anything compered to previous versions. I cannot verify this so it would be nice if you let us know.

    • @PCMonitors
      @PCMonitors Рік тому +1

      ​@@hdtvtest Very weird! My unit also has MCM103, does this on 'Light' setting - pcmonitors.info/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/PG27AQDM-screen-move.jpg

    • @hdtvtest
      @hdtvtest  Рік тому +4

      @David Martinek: Yes, our review is based on MCM103.

    • @davidmartinek5257
      @davidmartinek5257 Рік тому

      @@hdtvtest Great, thanks!

  • @Jordy242
    @Jordy242 Рік тому

    Is the LG eco mode off in this comparison?

  • @reignjuste
    @reignjuste Рік тому

    If it’s not 21:9 ratio not interested.
    I bought the elienware qd oled which is 21:9