DispleasedEskimo Interestingly enough, Sansa stands at the tower where Bran was thrown, then she meets Theon who says the exact line the cutthroat who was hired to kill Bran says.
Ray Oham yeap, where it all started....imagine....if bran wasn't thrown from that tower.....Eddard wouldn't have had more of an investment in finding out what the Lannisters were hiding.......wouldn't have investigated Cersi and her bastards.......wouldn't have threatened/confronted Cersi.....Cersi wouldn't have had her husband pork-bellied....(at least not then).....War wouldn't have broken out over the throne......Aarya wouldn't be the kickass young woman that she is.....Sansa would still be a stupid naive brat........bran wouldn't be off to save the world....The Starks would be all alive & the only thing we would have to talk about would be Dany approaching the 7 Kingdoms with her locked up out of control Dragons..... THANKS JAMIE FOR BEING A SISTER-FUCKER AND HAVING NO REGARD FOR THE LIFE OF ONE CHILD OVER YOUR TREACHEROUS SECRET LOL. Without that one action of throwing bran from that tower, this show would barely be worth watching haha.
Logan Cox As opposed to one that makes more sense. Littlefinger is supposed to be this great schemer, Sansa is supposed to be his apprentice. But he keeps screwing up and now marrying her to a monster? Great move, Baelish, great move. What's your next step? What's the metal on a maester's chain for psychotherapy? And if he's so sure Stannis is going to win, why not bring Sansa directly to him? Why risk Sansa turning into a second Reek when she's the only person in the world he has some actual feelings for? It ... just. Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense!
Penny Lane You underestimate how much of a sociopath Baelish is. He loved the hell out of Catelyn. Didn't stop him from destroying BOTH of her families and ruining her life and ultimately causing her death. He cares about Sansa, but not as much as he cares about staying alive and on top. Still, he's trying to keep her and his power, and even admits that what he is doing is a risky gamble. This alterations that have been made show that LF is a great schemer, but he is not all knowing. He knows they won't kill her, but not that they won't abuse her once she's theirs. And he can't bring her to Stannis, because he doesn't trust LF. Sansa has pretty much been his apprentice for the past three seasons already. Not that I don't love GRRM's writing, but the fact that Sansa (after spending three books with him) is only starting to get to this Kid Littlefinger stage by book freaking six is a little aggravating.
Logan Cox Well, it might be a bit harder for show Littlefinger to figure out Ramsay as his father is less of a psychopath in the show than he is in the book and therefore there isn't _that_ much of a reputation preceding the family. But I still refuse to believe he could be oblivious to all the shit Ramsay did to so many people and in front of so many people. Plus, Sansa now knows that Ramsay is not right in the head with the stunt he pulled over dinner so given that she has learned so much, what's she gonna do? I bet you she isn't going to do anything. Sure, I would have liked to see book Sansa get own her own two feet sooner, too. But at least I'm pretty confident that it's going to happen eventually. In the show, they seem hell-bent on destroying her before she even started. Alternatively, they are going to subject her to horrible torture and then act as if that has as much of an effect on her as a rainy day. Either way, I don't see any way they are going to get Sansa's storyline out of the corner they maneuvered themselves into.
Haha, right? Especially when she 'helped' Sansa bathe. With her voice and movements, I would be too relaxed to care I'd probably end up in several mason jars, lol.
"Hi I am a creepy stranger youve met in the home of one of your numerous enemies. Please naively accept my friendship and go down this dark and dimly lit hallway while I disappear. Also, if you have any secrets that will lead to the death of random few of your equally dumb relatives I'd happy to convey them to your enemies" Sansa: "Sounds good. Nothing in my past experience has taught me to worry about strangers or surprises!"
I think it takes a pretty special actor to be able to portray Ramsay and do it convincingly. That's why I enjoy watching Iwan so much, for the same reasons I loved watching Jack as Joff. They're absolutely nothing like their characters in real life, but boy, they can sure pull it off. Both Alfie and Sophie are just naturally talented, so no surprise there.
I love their relationship, I love it's very dynamic and you never forget it. She hates him, at least she hates Theon, but she pities Reek and it's a constant struggle of finding him as her only ally in hostile territory and seeing him as the reason for losing Winterfell in the first place
I've got to say, I was skeptical about this plot at first, but I kept an open mind; after all, throughout the entire books, I've been waiting for Reek to reunite with a living Stark and it never happened. The acting in this scene is incredible, you can hear the masked pain in Sophie's voice as she sees Theon/Reek, and it's so believable, because Sansa's been masking her emotions for so long but it'd be impossible for her to see Theon, knowing what he's done, without showing anything whatsoever. And Theon... Poor Theon, I felt for him. While his life is a living hell, at least he had consistency; he'd settled in as Reek, but now he has Sansa, a constant reminder of the man he'd forgotten. I'm just hoping Theon is reborn by the experience and they can save each other.
SayThat2MyMain It's beyond me why people feel sorry for Theon. He got exactly what was coming to him. Killed two little boys just to prove a point, Betrayed the Starks. I get that he's been brainwashed in an extremely cruel manner, but sorry if I'm not shedding any tears for Theon.....I mean Reek lol
Jen Tuesday I'm optimistic that few people side with the opinion that you endorsed. Let's break this down, what Theon did was unacceptable, his actions unjustifiable. Now in light of this, it isn't unreasonable to pity Theons situation (being taken from his home as a boy and feeling an outsider) and it isn't unreasonable to pity what Ramsay did to him. Logically torturing Theon won't undo his actions, nor bring back the dead boys. He should have been executed and that punishment would'nt warrant pity...... but torture and mutilation is too far. Anyway if he could potentially help an innocent, that is worth something. I hope Theon dies out of pity now, not punishment as he has suffered and is now unlikely to be the danger that he once was.
Theons actions WERE evil but Ramsay IS evil. Theon did some bad things but he took no pleasure in that and he got tortured until he was a broken, Weak, a walking Ghost. Ramsay takes pleasure in being cruel and making others lives a living hell. Theon deserved to die, Not to be put through that sick shit.
SayThat2MyMain It seems to me that that's how the Game of Thrones works, at first they start out with some revelations, information, and build up the story for the season......some significant events here and there but nothing too heart shattering......until a couple episodes in they hook you.....with kickass scenes like how Dany obtained her army, the main characters (or new characters) begin to win your heart & you're dying to find out what's gonna happen next (which is about where we're at now with season 5)...and then you become a GOT lover for life when the climax of the season comes around.....they surprise you with an epic event that is gut wrenching, surprising, and epic by all accounts...(ie The red wedding - Ed Stark, favorite character of many, beheaded)...and then they begin to set up for the next season at the end.......lol at least that's how I see it....When someone first told me about this Awesome show called the Game of Thrones......I'm like I'll check it out....watched most of the first episode and I'm like "this is what he was raving about?? This shit looks boring and confusing as hell" .......and I went on ignoring the show for like another season or two....by the time season 3 was halfway through airing....the media was in an uproar about the show so I'm like "eh, I'll give it another chance, try to find out what everyone is so crazy about that show for"......Watched the first few episodes and now I think it's one of the best shows that ever existed lol.
Elmo9001 Yea, because then he would've only betrayed her brother Rob when he was the King in the North.......taken her home for himself and his washed out family......murdered two innocent children......no biggie.
Jen Tuesday Theon is by no means a saint but you could easily name a dozen characters in the show who are worse than him. And I don't think anyone can name a character in the show who suffered more for their mistakes than Theon. The better part of a year in a torture chamber with Ramsay Bolton does that to a guy.
Elmo9001 Before you guys start to mound against my earlier comment, I'm not saying that I wouldn't like for Reek to be able to tell Sansa that her brothers are alive....I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens......but just saying, realistically, I doubt they'll become best buds or that she'll forgive him for the things he actually did do.....even if she has pitty for him.
meandmySTARS I think she will be! The chances are in her favor! King Stannis is launching an attack, Wildlings can join him just like that out of the blue (not confirmed but possible) , Stark house supporters in Winterfell, Brienne of Tarth... I think she'll be just fine :)
***** Haha as you can see neither of those variations I wrote in my first comment happened. Theon helped her. Wow... so unpredictable! You're right mate!
As much as I hate Sansa being given the Jeyne Poole arc, I'm really glad we get to see this side of her. In King's Landing, she was too afraid to be angry at the Lannisters for the deaths of her family, so all we saw was her either groveling meekly to gain their favor or crying when they weren't around because she couldn't do it in front of them in order to survive. But here, it's like all that anger is coming to the surface and she is beyond fed up. She's absolutely pissed off, and it's refreshing to see her being put into situations where she's able to express herself more freely and start to come into her own.
Now everyone, it's MYRANDA. With a "y". Like Petyr instead of Peter, Joffrey instead of Geoffrey, and Robyn instead of Robin. They like to use strange spellings to familiar names.
Imagine how scary that would be. Seeing someone that you grew up with that was a cocky, confident personality type. Completely reduced to a broken and meek person
Ah, those were the days. When a commoner could just casually engage a highborn lady into an uncomfortable conversation and send her past a row of bloodhounds.
***** How do you come to this conclusion? I also emphasize the things I really like. Those have been few and far between in recent times though. And the Sansa storyline in particular won't be saved by "oh it's just fiction" handwaving.
Penny Lane In Sansa's particular situation, she is pretty much alone in Winterfell, so why is it so odd that a commoner should approach her? She's surrounded by the Boltons who murdered half her family. I highly doubt they have high regard for her safety.
***** "I like your dress." Really? What modern day smalltalk line is next? "Wonderful winter day, isn't it?" Oh no, right. She goes on to talk about her dead mother. In that universe, with the wrong lord or lady she'd be dead at that point, if she ever got so far. Good thing Sansa's not the wrong lady. She's not even the new Sansa who's learned so much from Littlefinger. No, she not only endures this uncomfortable situation forced onto her by someone who doesn't even address her properly, no, she also lets herself be sent off into what might as well be a trap and clearly makes her even more uncomfortable. Why? What's her motivation? Are you saying she needs a friend so dearly that she's willing to trust that insolent woman she just met after all the talk about trusting no-one?
***** actually they do, or should. It's not that obvious in the series but the Boltons NEED Sansa to have the last Stark on their side and win the other northern lords allegiances. Politically they are fucked without her.
Harry Morris It's all sorts of complicated emotions at the same time. Anger, fear, grief, pity, disgust, long-lost attachment; all rolled into one amazingly delivered "Theon..." by Sophie Turner. It's usually Alfie Allen that gets me making appraisals in comments sections, but I have to say she's utterly incredible.
Think part of her is mostly just mad at littlefinger forgetting her into this position. If they're willing to do this to theon what are they willing to do to her. But I'm sure it's a whole jumble of mixed emotion
Lord Bolton True Warden Of The North It is one of my favourite storylines, actually. I know a book reader who think it's awful, because she hates Ramsay (I don't like him that much either, but I think I'm used to him now), but she can, unlike the other book readers, still enjoy the show.
Who would have thought that the Bolton's killed it with amazing acting, Roose dropping the Bomb, and characters being themselves. This is one of the best episodes in my opinion.
This whole situation is fucked up beyond belief. Littlefinger gives Sansa to the family who betrayed and murdered the Starks, and who are known throughout Westeros as the most vicious and brutal people in the North. We don't know yet if he genuinely cares about her or his suggested plan to seek revenge, or if she's just another part of his overall plan. She's being married to Ramsay, who is without a doubt even more evil and sadistic than Joffrey at his worst. He also happens to have Theon, who she believes killed her little brothers, on a leash. He's already using him to torment her. He also happens to have a crazy girlfriend who would probably kill Sansa at a moment's notice. She's already started the innocent act with Sansa, and she may be trying to lead her into making mistakes, like killing Theon. Ramsay's father will have a legitimate heir now, so he's going to be fighting even harder to remain Roose's first choice. God only knows what that will mean for Sansa. On top of all of that, Stannis marches on Winterfell with an army, and the people in the North who are hearing about Sansa from Brienne may start a rebellion against the Boltons!
Jonathan Parker It's really complicated! In a captivating sort of way, not something that goes too far. What will be bad though, I think, is if there are any more episodes this season where Winterfell gets missed out. There is just so much stuff that needs to happen. That's not a book spoiler; you can plainly see how many factors there are at work here. This episode was great. I'd really like it if this series that started very light on Winterfell/The North became deeply embroiled in it by the end. I mean Winter is coming, right?
DispleasedEskimo That's why I love this series so much. It makes you think, and they give you so many factors to consider. Winterfell has now become my focus for speculation. I can't wait to see what happens.
Jonathan Parker If Sansa didn't know it already....seeing Theon as "Reek" should give her a big clue just how sadistic Ramsay is. The Starks would have hung Theon for his crimes. The Boltons completely break him and keep him as a pet. Sick. Sansa must realize she's dealing with Joffrey 2.0. I thought Roose made Ramsay a legitimate heir?
Elonna R The Boltons would have flayed him alive, like the rest of the Ironborn that occupied Winterfell. Like Roose said to Walder Fray, Ramsay has his own way of doing things. If Sansa doesn't realize that she's dealing with the worst of the bunch now, I don't know when she will. Roose did make Ramsay a true Bolton, making him a legitimate heir. However, Ramsay's worried that he now has a natural born son that could surpass him one day. I think Roose just pulled the rug out from under him at that dinner because he was being a prick, but I'm not sure what his overall plan is. Maybe it was just a way to reel him in a little, maybe it was a plan to replace him, who knows?
capt. Slygor you are wrong, a crazy psycho like him who lets people suffer in life is worse than one who kill them, joffrey and ramsay are both bastard really crazy but now ramsay is crazier
LCNighthawk But of course now Ramsay is crazier cause Joffrey is dead :) So you think that torturing, beating and humiliating an innocent and sweet girl in front of the whole capital city citizens is a little better than torturing and humiliating a man (who actually deserve it) in front of the small Bolton army in Winterfell? Just stop looking who is crazy and who is evil and things like that! Start looking who did more harm! If Joffrey was still alive Ramsay can never beat him! I repeat: Ramsay does not have such power to terrorize many people at once!
LCNighthawk We all know man... none of this is right! The better thing was to kill him but he made him a toy and a servant! Just imagine if Lannisters weren't around Joffrey what would've happened! He would've kill many people. He would've torture many people. Cutting tongues and fingers just for his amusement! Sansa would've be dead by now! Queen Cersei was worried about what he did with lord Stark also she shared with Tyrion that she can't control him... and even after Joffrey died she told to Margaery that he was a monster! Ramsay... kind of know his limits! Joffrey don't have limits!
Hard to see Sansa marry Ramsay. I honestly thought something would happen to stop the wedding. Now the most hated guy has to be Littlefinger for giving her to those bastards. love it.
So Sansa is married to the most sadistic house in the realm, also the ones who betrayed and killed Robb, and then there's a jealous crazy girl who introduces her to Theon, who betrayed Robb and thinks had killed 2 other brothers, also showing how inhumane the Boltons are with their treatment of Theon. This was a true introduction to hell
Anybody get the impression that she was thinking about flayed skin when she was complementing sansa on her stitching... "Oh, you make your own clothes? I do that as well. "
@@hexagonoctogon3140 I think that was the episode after this one. Anyways, her virginity lasted as long as it did because Joffrey - for all his sadistic cruelty - had no real interest in sex. And because Tyrion was an exceptionally good man for these times. The Hound, come to think of it, also saved her from being raped at one point.
It took a massive amount of courage for Sansa to walk away from Theon. I might have killed him right then and there. Also A+++ acting from Sophie. The range of emotions on her face when she saw Theon was brilliant.
Good times! Good acting! Beautiful costumes, and sets lit up enough that we can actually see everything, even if shot in an underground dog kennel. I miss GoT.
We all know how ruthless the Boltons are and we also know Myranda is jealous of Sansa but I am curious how she will die. You can see in Myranda's body language wishing she had a knife right now. I wish this week would hurry up.
Theon was a horrible person. But i cant but too help but to feel sorry for him. Even tho he deserve it. Glad he turn around and prove himself to the stark
Could HBO not post spoilers in the title, the vast majority of the rest of the world will see this episode in a few hours time. The solution of hide in your cupboard and sever your connection to the outside world until you've seen it isn't a good one. It's nice to keep up with the channel and see the interviews but clips for the handfull of people who have seen it seen it, I'm sure they can wait over 24 hours to see the clips that spoil it for people who've not had it broadcast yet.
Logan Cox Yeah but it was nice to get the suspence from not quite knowing what she'd find then he was there, now for a bunch of people that haven't had it broadcast it's ruined.
I'm really confused... what's the point of the whole Myranda-Sansa scene? Is it meant to build tension for later interaction between them? I'm a little confused. Really like this episode though, not much happened but a lot of context in terms of depth of the world.
LaughterInportable Myranda is passive-aggressively trying to upset Sansa, letting her see the guy who supposedly killed her brothers. But all she did is let Sansa see exactly how twisted the Bolton's are.
Of all of D&D's fuckups, this one is the worst. It makes no sense that Sansa could publicly exist as Sansa without Cersei finding out, and she's still legally married to Tyrion? Littlefinger also wouldn't leave Sansa, who he wants to protect--though selfishly--in the hands of the most sadistic person in Westeros. Both Petyr and Roose have been portrayed to be some of the most calculating, intelligent players in the Game, so something this dumb is completely out of character. I guess D&D are willing to sacrifice plot lines and character development for the sake of sensationalized, sexually violent torture scenes because they think they're provocative. If Ramsay touches her, I am done with this trash show.
+casey she Oh Boo Hoo No one cares, I have read the books and this storyline is Good but you give us book readers a bad name, the show is the show and the books is the books, if you can't handle that then don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Well.....I hope WatchMojo does a "Top 10" one day on TV Antagonists who got what was coming to them....because my bet is that Reek would be in the #1 Spot lol.
meest up theon how long is theon toture bij ramsley ??? and how long is he now with ramsly just wonder because is finger is cut off but lookt heald sorry for my bad engels Stockholm syndrome ???
I just finished reading the books and was shocked to know it wasn't Sansa who married Ramsay instead it was Jeyne Poole ( Sansa's best friend) acting as fake Arya so he can claim winterfell ( North). Oh my goodness noone suffered as much as this poor girl forced to work in littlefinger's brothel and Ramsay is even worse in the books🥺
Such an awesome "Welcome to Hell" kind of moment.
Theon's first line of the series turned out to be incredibly haunting.
DispleasedEskimo Interestingly enough, Sansa stands at the tower where Bran was thrown, then she meets Theon who says the exact line the cutthroat who was hired to kill Bran says.
Ray Oham I love that! I recognised the tower but didn't realise there was the call back in the dialogue. Both scenes are so horrifying, great link.
Ray Oham yeap, where it all started....imagine....if bran wasn't thrown from that tower.....Eddard wouldn't have had more of an investment in finding out what the Lannisters were hiding.......wouldn't have investigated Cersi and her bastards.......wouldn't have threatened/confronted Cersi.....Cersi wouldn't have had her husband pork-bellied....(at least not then).....War wouldn't have broken out over the throne......Aarya wouldn't be the kickass young woman that she is.....Sansa would still be a stupid naive brat........bran wouldn't be off to save the world....The Starks would be all alive & the only thing we would have to talk about would be Dany approaching the 7 Kingdoms with her locked up out of control Dragons.....
THANKS JAMIE FOR BEING A SISTER-FUCKER AND HAVING NO REGARD FOR THE LIFE OF ONE CHILD OVER YOUR TREACHEROUS SECRET LOL. Without that one action of throwing bran from that tower, this show would barely be worth watching haha.
Ray Oham He also said what was on many book reader's minds. :P
Steven Bierman Ahaha yes. Where's my Wyman?
Sophie Turner and Alfie Allen are both terrific actors. I love this storyline so much....
Ozymandias Sophie Turner and Alfie Allen _are_ both terrific actors. It breaks my heart to see them wasted on such a nonsensical storyline.
Penny Lane As opposed to what?
Logan Cox As opposed to one that makes more sense. Littlefinger is supposed to be this great schemer, Sansa is supposed to be his apprentice. But he keeps screwing up and now marrying her to a monster? Great move, Baelish, great move. What's your next step? What's the metal on a maester's chain for psychotherapy?
And if he's so sure Stannis is going to win, why not bring Sansa directly to him? Why risk Sansa turning into a second Reek when she's the only person in the world he has some actual feelings for? It ... just. Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense!
Penny Lane You underestimate how much of a sociopath Baelish is. He loved the hell out of Catelyn. Didn't stop him from destroying BOTH of her families and ruining her life and ultimately causing her death. He cares about Sansa, but not as much as he cares about staying alive and on top. Still, he's trying to keep her and his power, and even admits that what he is doing is a risky gamble.
This alterations that have been made show that LF is a great schemer, but he is not all knowing. He knows they won't kill her, but not that they won't abuse her once she's theirs. And he can't bring her to Stannis, because he doesn't trust LF.
Sansa has pretty much been his apprentice for the past three seasons already. Not that I don't love GRRM's writing, but the fact that Sansa (after spending three books with him) is only starting to get to this Kid Littlefinger stage by book freaking six is a little aggravating.
Logan Cox Well, it might be a bit harder for show Littlefinger to figure out Ramsay as his father is less of a psychopath in the show than he is in the book and therefore there isn't _that_ much of a reputation preceding the family. But I still refuse to believe he could be oblivious to all the shit Ramsay did to so many people and in front of so many people. Plus, Sansa now knows that Ramsay is not right in the head with the stunt he pulled over dinner so given that she has learned so much, what's she gonna do? I bet you she isn't going to do anything.
Sure, I would have liked to see book Sansa get own her own two feet sooner, too. But at least I'm pretty confident that it's going to happen eventually. In the show, they seem hell-bent on destroying her before she even started. Alternatively, they are going to subject her to horrible torture and then act as if that has as much of an effect on her as a rainy day. Either way, I don't see any way they are going to get Sansa's storyline out of the corner they maneuvered themselves into.
She goes from shock to sadness to anger when seeing Theon. Lovely acting
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"You won't believe it when you see it"
Sansa cleary couldn't resist the clickbait.
Myranda seemed so nice and the beginning
Myranda's voice is ASMR quality
I thought the same thing!! 😂
Like I really can’t stand her but she makes all the cruel things she says sound so soothing 😭
Absolutely 😂
This.
Haha, right? Especially when she 'helped' Sansa bathe. With her voice and movements, I would be too relaxed to care I'd probably end up in several mason jars, lol.
Myrandas voice is so nice I feel tingles when. She speaks
"Hi I am a creepy stranger youve met in the home of one of your numerous enemies. Please naively accept my friendship and go down this dark and dimly lit hallway while I disappear. Also, if you have any secrets that will lead to the death of random few of your equally dumb relatives I'd happy to convey them to your enemies"
Sansa: "Sounds good. Nothing in my past experience has taught me to worry about strangers or surprises!"
she obviously seems worried tho
@@turtel65And then proceeded to not listen to that feeling and go along with her anyway lol.
well, i mean what would happen? Sansa is very valuable hostage don't really want them dead...
Iwan Rheon, Alfie Allen and Sophie Turner so freaking good actors... well almost the whole GoT cast is doing such a good job:p
TheTripol
Ikr! Those three are some of my favourite actors in the show.
TheTripol Agreed, though Micheal Mcelhatton deserves a name drop aswell as Roose is one of my favourite characters.
***** Yeah, Micheal's performance is really impressive as well.. don't think they could have found a better Roose.
I think it takes a pretty special actor to be able to portray Ramsay and do it convincingly. That's why I enjoy watching Iwan so much, for the same reasons I loved watching Jack as Joff. They're absolutely nothing like their characters in real life, but boy, they can sure pull it off. Both Alfie and Sophie are just naturally talented, so no surprise there.
Drew Sharp
Then you haven't seen many terrible actresses. I think you only write that because you don't like the character she's playing.
I love their relationship, I love it's very dynamic and you never forget it.
She hates him, at least she hates Theon, but she pities Reek and it's a constant struggle of finding him as her only ally in hostile territory and seeing him as the reason for losing Winterfell in the first place
Did anyone else think Miranda was going to set the dogs on Sansa during that long, slow walk to the end of the kennel?
I honestly thought she going to
Yeah definitely
Miranda is the medieval Harley Quinn
That’s an awesome comparison 😂
Oh wow. Now I can’t unsee it!
Lmao, no. She's just a little bit of nothing, born to nothing and arrives to nothing.
Myranda tried to play nice, but in her head she was probably picturing Sansa getting ripped apart by Ramsay's dogs.
I've got to say, I was skeptical about this plot at first, but I kept an open mind; after all, throughout the entire books, I've been waiting for Reek to reunite with a living Stark and it never happened.
The acting in this scene is incredible, you can hear the masked pain in Sophie's voice as she sees Theon/Reek, and it's so believable, because Sansa's been masking her emotions for so long but it'd be impossible for her to see Theon, knowing what he's done, without showing anything whatsoever.
And Theon... Poor Theon, I felt for him. While his life is a living hell, at least he had consistency; he'd settled in as Reek, but now he has Sansa, a constant reminder of the man he'd forgotten. I'm just hoping Theon is reborn by the experience and they can save each other.
SayThat2MyMain It's beyond me why people feel sorry for Theon. He got exactly what was coming to him. Killed two little boys just to prove a point, Betrayed the Starks. I get that he's been brainwashed in an extremely cruel manner, but sorry if I'm not shedding any tears for Theon.....I mean Reek lol
Jen Tuesday I'm optimistic that few people side with the opinion that you endorsed. Let's break this down, what Theon did was unacceptable, his actions unjustifiable. Now in light of this, it isn't unreasonable to pity Theons situation (being taken from his home as a boy and feeling an outsider) and it isn't unreasonable to pity what Ramsay did to him. Logically torturing Theon won't undo his actions, nor bring back the dead boys. He should have been executed and that punishment would'nt warrant pity...... but torture and mutilation is too far. Anyway if he could potentially help an innocent, that is worth something. I hope Theon dies out of pity now, not punishment as he has suffered and is now unlikely to be the danger that he once was.
Theons actions WERE evil but Ramsay IS evil.
Theon did some bad things but he took no pleasure in that and he got tortured until he was a broken, Weak, a walking Ghost.
Ramsay takes pleasure in being cruel and making others lives a living hell.
Theon deserved to die, Not to be put through that sick shit.
Lord Bolton True Warden Of The North Never thought i'ed agree with a Bolton :S
SayThat2MyMain It seems to me that that's how the Game of Thrones works, at first they start out with some revelations, information, and build up the story for the season......some significant events here and there but nothing too heart shattering......until a couple episodes in they hook you.....with kickass scenes like how Dany obtained her army, the main characters (or new characters) begin to win your heart & you're dying to find out what's gonna happen next (which is about where we're at now with season 5)...and then you become a GOT lover for life when the climax of the season comes around.....they surprise you with an epic event that is gut wrenching, surprising, and epic by all accounts...(ie The red wedding - Ed Stark, favorite character of many, beheaded)...and then they begin to set up for the next season at the end.......lol at least that's how I see it....When someone first told me about this Awesome show called the Game of Thrones......I'm like I'll check it out....watched most of the first episode and I'm like "this is what he was raving about?? This shit looks boring and confusing as hell" .......and I went on ignoring the show for like another season or two....by the time season 3 was halfway through airing....the media was in an uproar about the show so I'm like "eh, I'll give it another chance, try to find out what everyone is so crazy about that show for"......Watched the first few episodes and now I think it's one of the best shows that ever existed lol.
I hope Reek gets to tell Sansa her brothers are alive... I feel like she'd be able to see him as an ally if she knew he didn't kill Bran and Rickon.
Elmo9001 Yea, because then he would've only betrayed her brother Rob when he was the King in the North.......taken her home for himself and his washed out family......murdered two innocent children......no biggie.
Jen Tuesday Theon is by no means a saint but you could easily name a dozen characters in the show who are worse than him.
And I don't think anyone can name a character in the show who suffered more for their mistakes than Theon. The better part of a year in a torture chamber with Ramsay Bolton does that to a guy.
Elmo9001 Before you guys start to mound against my earlier comment, I'm not saying that I wouldn't like for Reek to be able to tell Sansa that her brothers are alive....I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens......but just saying, realistically, I doubt they'll become best buds or that she'll forgive him for the things he actually did do.....even if she has pitty for him.
Jen Tuesday A man can dream...
Elmo9001 He didn't kill them cause they escaped! He was ready to search for them and to kill them!
i am loving sansa's scenes too much...........hope she will be safe
meandmySTARS I think she will be! The chances are in her favor! King Stannis is launching an attack, Wildlings can join him just like that out of the blue (not confirmed but possible) , Stark house supporters in Winterfell, Brienne of Tarth... I think she'll be just fine :)
........... Hah........
meandmySTARS Well... not so safe but still alive thought...
***** Haha as you can see neither of those variations I wrote in my first comment happened. Theon helped her. Wow... so unpredictable! You're right mate!
I’m from the future it’s good for now
As much as I hate Sansa being given the Jeyne Poole arc, I'm really glad we get to see this side of her. In King's Landing, she was too afraid to be angry at the Lannisters for the deaths of her family, so all we saw was her either groveling meekly to gain their favor or crying when they weren't around because she couldn't do it in front of them in order to survive. But here, it's like all that anger is coming to the surface and she is beyond fed up. She's absolutely pissed off, and it's refreshing to see her being put into situations where she's able to express herself more freely and start to come into her own.
I love how Sansa right from the bat is keeping her distance from that psycho
But Sansa is still very foolish ; how will she agree to go down that dark dungeon on the words of a creepy stranger
Theon better help Sansa against the Boltons. And I'm hoping Pod and Brienne team up with him to help. Save the last (known) living Stark!
Noel Aranda Arya will revenge the shit heads :D
Noel Aranda Arya will revenge the shit heads :D
Reuben Chandler-Wall yes yes
Noel Aranda Reek will join to rape Sansa along with Ramsay after Ramsay flayed her :3
Noel Aranda Reek is too brave. He will always follow me !! Haha this naive pretty girl doesn't even know she is my new toy !
I know Myranda was a psycopath, but she was so beautiful...
Myranda reminds me shelia eddie
Not more beautiful than Sansa herself. ESPECIALLY with the latter dying her red hair black and becoming Severe and Majestic as Icy hell.
Got an ass to write home about too
Not really. She’s pretty plain I think especially compared to Sansa or Daenerys who was even more beautiful than Sansa.
Fucking crazy and sexy bitch.... I liked her.
Now everyone, it's MYRANDA. With a "y". Like Petyr instead of Peter, Joffrey instead of Geoffrey, and Robyn instead of Robin. They like to use strange spellings to familiar names.
Fuck u
It’s old English version of the names.
hugemagoo what pissed on your cereal?
Joffrey isn’t the same name as Geoffrey
Go home nerd
and then she turned super sansa 2, special beam cannoned myranda in the face, and then spirit bombed the entirety of Winterfell
the end
daiselol dude spoilers, not everyone's read the books
daiselol All of that storyline will take 100+ episodes to show. Game of Thrones is doing 10 episodes per season....1 season per year....oh my.
"Kill the girl, Sansa Stark. And let the Pissed-Off Woman be born!!"
roundedges2 I love this
I can't tell if she's angry because of what Theon did or because of what the Boltons did to him
Maybe both?
Both. Theon is pretty much her brother.
This is the first season in game of thrones i like the north part more than the other parts
Imagine how scary that would be. Seeing someone that you grew up with that was a cocky, confident personality type. Completely reduced to a broken and meek person
great scene nails the dynamic between a commoner and a noble woman.
The actress who plays Myranda… would be amazing at asmr. ❤
Sophie Turner 😍😍
Know man!
Bradley Beckett yeah, this Sophie is really turning me ;D
Roughnegg turning you huh... dont you mean turning you on...
I pitched a tent looking at her.
The bit at 1:21 sums up how I felt deciding to start watching game of Thrones the same week everybody decided they hate it
This was the best episode of the season (so far). Especially this part XD Great acting!
Myranda and Ramsey were like a Bonnie and Clyde version in medieval times
More like a medieval Joker and Harley Quinn
More like the medieval Myra Hindley and Ian Brady.
0:13 when a random person starts talking to me xD
Ah, those were the days. When a commoner could just casually engage a highborn lady into an uncomfortable conversation and send her past a row of bloodhounds.
Penny Lane Nobody said Game of Thrones was nonfiction...Stop lurking among these videos just for a pathetic attempt to bash them.
***** How do you come to this conclusion? I also emphasize the things I really like. Those have been few and far between in recent times though. And the Sansa storyline in particular won't be saved by "oh it's just fiction" handwaving.
Penny Lane In Sansa's particular situation, she is pretty much alone in Winterfell, so why is it so odd that a commoner should approach her? She's surrounded by the Boltons who murdered half her family. I highly doubt they have high regard for her safety.
***** "I like your dress." Really? What modern day smalltalk line is next? "Wonderful winter day, isn't it?" Oh no, right. She goes on to talk about her dead mother. In that universe, with the wrong lord or lady she'd be dead at that point, if she ever got so far. Good thing Sansa's not the wrong lady. She's not even the new Sansa who's learned so much from Littlefinger. No, she not only endures this uncomfortable situation forced onto her by someone who doesn't even address her properly, no, she also lets herself be sent off into what might as well be a trap and clearly makes her even more uncomfortable. Why? What's her motivation? Are you saying she needs a friend so dearly that she's willing to trust that insolent woman she just met after all the talk about trusting no-one?
***** actually they do, or should. It's not that obvious in the series but the Boltons NEED Sansa to have the last Stark on their side and win the other northern lords allegiances. Politically they are fucked without her.
I can't work out if Sansa is mad at Theon for 'murdering' Rickon and Bran or if she feels bad for him
Harry Morris It's all sorts of complicated emotions at the same time. Anger, fear, grief, pity, disgust, long-lost attachment; all rolled into one amazingly delivered "Theon..." by Sophie Turner. It's usually Alfie Allen that gets me making appraisals in comments sections, but I have to say she's utterly incredible.
Think part of her is mostly just mad at littlefinger forgetting her into this position. If they're willing to do this to theon what are they willing to do to her. But I'm sure it's a whole jumble of mixed emotion
I just love her smile at 0:22
Benioff & Weiss, I love you for this storyline!
MadamPluto I love them for some things, despise them for others, but this episode was great
All the book readers moaned and moaned about this storyline.
This storyline is amazing and entertaining.
Lord Bolton True Warden Of The North
It is one of my favourite storylines, actually. I know a book reader who think it's awful, because she hates Ramsay (I don't like him that much either, but I think I'm used to him now), but she can, unlike the other book readers, still enjoy the show.
Who would have thought that the Bolton's killed it with amazing acting, Roose dropping the Bomb, and characters being themselves. This is one of the best episodes in my opinion.
MadamPluto As long as they don't kill Jorah or make him suffer, I love them :)
This whole situation is fucked up beyond belief.
Littlefinger gives Sansa to the family who betrayed and murdered the Starks, and who are known throughout Westeros as the most vicious and brutal people in the North. We don't know yet if he genuinely cares about her or his suggested plan to seek revenge, or if she's just another part of his overall plan. She's being married to Ramsay, who is without a doubt even more evil and sadistic than Joffrey at his worst. He also happens to have Theon, who she believes killed her little brothers, on a leash. He's already using him to torment her. He also happens to have a crazy girlfriend who would probably kill Sansa at a moment's notice. She's already started the innocent act with Sansa, and she may be trying to lead her into making mistakes, like killing Theon. Ramsay's father will have a legitimate heir now, so he's going to be fighting even harder to remain Roose's first choice. God only knows what that will mean for Sansa. On top of all of that, Stannis marches on Winterfell with an army, and the people in the North who are hearing about Sansa from Brienne may start a rebellion against the Boltons!
Jonathan Parker It's really complicated! In a captivating sort of way, not something that goes too far. What will be bad though, I think, is if there are any more episodes this season where Winterfell gets missed out. There is just so much stuff that needs to happen. That's not a book spoiler; you can plainly see how many factors there are at work here.
This episode was great. I'd really like it if this series that started very light on Winterfell/The North became deeply embroiled in it by the end. I mean Winter is coming, right?
DispleasedEskimo That's why I love this series so much. It makes you think, and they give you so many factors to consider. Winterfell has now become my focus for speculation. I can't wait to see what happens.
Jonathan Parker If Sansa didn't know it already....seeing Theon as "Reek" should give her a big clue just how sadistic Ramsay is. The Starks would have hung Theon for his crimes. The Boltons completely break him and keep him as a pet. Sick. Sansa must realize she's dealing with Joffrey 2.0. I thought Roose made Ramsay a legitimate heir?
Elonna R The Boltons would have flayed him alive, like the rest of the Ironborn that occupied Winterfell. Like Roose said to Walder Fray, Ramsay has his own way of doing things. If Sansa doesn't realize that she's dealing with the worst of the bunch now, I don't know when she will.
Roose did make Ramsay a true Bolton, making him a legitimate heir. However, Ramsay's worried that he now has a natural born son that could surpass him one day. I think Roose just pulled the rug out from under him at that dinner because he was being a prick, but I'm not sure what his overall plan is. Maybe it was just a way to reel him in a little, maybe it was a plan to replace him, who knows?
Jonathan Parker
I think sansa is already used to cruel and sadistic bastards
Sansa, i think you found out that you commited a big mistake trusting Baelish, she agreeded to marry you with a pycho worse than joffrey
capt. Slygor you are wrong, a crazy psycho like him who lets people suffer in life is worse than one who kill them, joffrey and ramsay are both bastard really crazy but now ramsay is crazier
LCNighthawk But of course now Ramsay is crazier cause Joffrey is dead :) So you think that torturing, beating and humiliating an innocent and sweet girl in front of the whole capital city citizens is a little better than torturing and humiliating a man (who actually deserve it) in front of the small Bolton army in Winterfell? Just stop looking who is crazy and who is evil and things like that! Start looking who did more harm! If Joffrey was still alive Ramsay can never beat him! I repeat: Ramsay does not have such power to terrorize many people at once!
capt. Slygor but soon will have it unless he isnt stop, and even when theon deserved it, that doenst make it right to do it
LCNighthawk We all know man... none of this is right! The better thing was to kill him but he made him a toy and a servant! Just imagine if Lannisters weren't around Joffrey what would've happened! He would've kill many people. He would've torture many people. Cutting tongues and fingers just for his amusement! Sansa would've be dead by now! Queen Cersei was worried about what he did with lord Stark also she shared with Tyrion that she can't control him... and even after Joffrey died she told to Margaery that he was a monster! Ramsay... kind of know his limits! Joffrey don't have limits!
capt. Slygor crazy people dont have limits, but they are still kids in front of the joker
This is the first scene where I have seen a glimpse of actual Theon in "Reek."
I started sobbing the moment she stepped into the kennels.
Duscha Pendragon You should probably get that checked out.
Jacob Harrison Nah, it's just the fact I get up at 2am so I'm overly emotional, but thanks for the concern!
Hard to see Sansa marry Ramsay. I honestly thought something would happen to stop the wedding. Now the most hated guy has to be Littlefinger for giving her to those bastards. love it.
Myranda seems almost nice, talking to Sansa about her dress and mom, if you didn't know any better......
nah. it smells fake and sneaky straight away
The beginning of this clip gives me mean girls vibes “ I love your dress.. where did you get it?” 😂
Myranda acts like a typical kennel-master’s daughter who got used to witnessing lives extinguished in the most gruesome ways by her dad’s dogs.
I swear the woman who played Myranda should do ASMR videos on youtube...lol.
I need an audiobook narrated by myranda😍
Oh boy, such a incredyble episode:) Soooooooo excited for the next one!
So Sansa is married to the most sadistic house in the realm, also the ones who betrayed and killed Robb, and then there's a jealous crazy girl who introduces her to Theon, who betrayed Robb and thinks had killed 2 other brothers, also showing how inhumane the Boltons are with their treatment of Theon. This was a true introduction to hell
Anybody get the impression that she was thinking about flayed skin when she was complementing sansa on her stitching...
"Oh, you make your own clothes? I do that as well. "
I am SHOCKED that Sansa has been able to keep her virginity for this long.
Wasnt she raped by Bolton with theon watching?
@@hexagonoctogon3140 I think that was the episode after this one. Anyways, her virginity lasted as long as it did because Joffrey - for all his sadistic cruelty - had no real interest in sex. And because Tyrion was an exceptionally good man for these times. The Hound, come to think of it, also saved her from being raped at one point.
Oh man
We gotta thank the Hound and Tyrion for that!
i was so upset when she got r@ped by ramsay
It took a massive amount of courage for Sansa to walk away from Theon. I might have killed him right then and there.
Also A+++ acting from Sophie. The range of emotions on her face when she saw Theon was brilliant.
Gotta love that "Pay the Iron Price" remix
Myrandas death is one of the most hilarious ones
Good times! Good acting! Beautiful costumes, and sets lit up enough that we can actually see everything, even if shot in an underground dog kennel. I miss GoT.
GREAT scene
omg I watched 1 minute of the video and Miranda seems like such a nice and considerate person, surely she and Sansa will make great friends☺
See this would’ve been the perfect time for Sansa to use her warg abilities GRRM said that she has.
At 1st: aw she’s so nice!
Later: this Witch!
The "I'd rather have a mother" line was so epic 😂😂
We all know how ruthless the Boltons are and we also know Myranda is jealous of Sansa but I am curious how she will die. You can see in Myranda's body language wishing she had a knife right now. I wish this week would hurry up.
FLY AWAY LITTLE STARLING!
I LOVE! myranda sooooo much
myranda is so damn fine
Anyone else thinking Sansa will kill Myranda in that same spot where they met? Maybe pushing her just like Jaime pushed Bran.
OMG, Miranda is so beautiful!
Myranda is so beautiful
Is it just me or does she look really PISSED walking out?
roundedges2 oh she should have been. At that point he was one of the last people she ever wanted to see again.
Those jiggles were everything 😍😍
Theon was a horrible person. But i cant but too help but to feel sorry for him. Even tho he deserve it. Glad he turn around and prove himself to the stark
Horrible? Na. Misguided? Yeah.
Charlotte Hope speaks like she's singing, she should be a singer or do asmr.
Who else thinks Charlotte Hope is amazing actress
It’s very unsettling how everyone even associated with House Bolton is a complete sadist, who can act as if they are compassionate & good people.
Except for Walda
Was Theon hiding his finger ? ... Damn .. 2:48
I remember seeing a scene where myranda bathes sansa and here they meet for the first time?😅 I'm confused
Could HBO not post spoilers in the title, the vast majority of the rest of the world will see this episode in a few hours time. The solution of hide in your cupboard and sever your connection to the outside world until you've seen it isn't a good one. It's nice to keep up with the channel and see the interviews but clips for the handfull of people who have seen it seen it, I'm sure they can wait over 24 hours to see the clips that spoil it for people who've not had it broadcast yet.
y05077 welcome to the internet.
y05077 Kind of a foregone conclusion that these two would run into each other, but I get what you mean.
Logan Cox
Yeah but it was nice to get the suspence from not quite knowing what she'd find then he was there, now for a bunch of people that haven't had it broadcast it's ruined.
y05077 just unsub
ihavenousernamelol2
That's not really a solution though because the interviews and such I quite like.
Damn. Katherine of Aragon was a psycho!!
I'm really confused... what's the point of the whole Myranda-Sansa scene? Is it meant to build tension for later interaction between them? I'm a little confused. Really like this episode though, not much happened but a lot of context in terms of depth of the world.
LaughterInportable yup, I think Myranda is just trying to create as much chaos as she can, now that Ramsay and Sansa are engaged...
LaughterInportable Myranda is passive-aggressively trying to upset Sansa, letting her see the guy who supposedly killed her brothers. But all she did is let Sansa see exactly how twisted the Bolton's are.
"You shouldn't be here!"
Yeah, you're right Theon/Reek...Jeyne Poole should...
Myranda is SOOO beautiful! :)
Of all of D&D's fuckups, this one is the worst. It makes no sense that Sansa could publicly exist as Sansa without Cersei finding out, and she's still legally married to Tyrion? Littlefinger also wouldn't leave Sansa, who he wants to protect--though selfishly--in the hands of the most sadistic person in Westeros. Both Petyr and Roose have been portrayed to be some of the most calculating, intelligent players in the Game, so something this dumb is completely out of character. I guess D&D are willing to sacrifice plot lines and character development for the sake of sensationalized, sexually violent torture scenes because they think they're provocative. If Ramsay touches her, I am done with this trash show.
casey she The books and show are different
GET OVER IT
Shut up, you'll watch it anyways.
casey she
Whine more
+casey she
Oh Boo Hoo No one cares, I have read the books and this storyline is Good but you give us book readers a bad name, the show is the show and the books is the books, if you can't handle that then don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Littlefinger in the show anyway is a complete sociopath he doesn't care about Sansa or Catelyn or anyone else
Well.....I hope WatchMojo does a "Top 10" one day on TV Antagonists who got what was coming to them....because my bet is that Reek would be in the #1 Spot lol.
Welcome to Hell
Bark bark growl
Don't know who's worst joffery or Ramsey
Sansa was being such an unreasonable b**ch to someone she didnt know almost makes me not feel bad for what happened to her..
That says a lot about you und your bad character.
Poor me.
Don't worry I'll keep you safe my lady.
I look forward to it.
I protected you just like when I dropped the bomb on Ramsay at dinner, that shut him up
True. But you should watch your back. The North remembers.
Yes of course "The North Remembers" for what Theon did to your brother's.
What does she do after?
Ok guys thats offical now! Myranda is the hottest bitch on game of thrones
She's not even remotely comparable with Margaery, Melisandre or Dany.
But Margaery though
Charlotte Hope ❤️❤️
meest up theon
how long is theon toture bij ramsley ???
and how long is he now with ramsly
just wonder because is finger is cut off but lookt heald
sorry for my bad engels
Stockholm syndrome ???
I just finished reading the books and was shocked to know it wasn't Sansa who married Ramsay instead it was Jeyne Poole ( Sansa's best friend) acting as fake Arya so he can claim winterfell ( North). Oh my goodness noone suffered as much as this poor girl forced to work in littlefinger's brothel and Ramsay is even worse in the books🥺
silence of the lambs
Wonder what Myranda's mother taught her daughter.
I like Myranda
sansa is growing...(on me)
Myranda is very beautiful!
Myranda should have said "Time to wake up the Gimp"
Where is bran?
Asmr vibes 🥴
At first i thought in the dungeon there could be Nymeria...i know its not in the books but they do messed up everytjing so i had a liztle hope