I bought both the 700 Pro X and the 770 Pro 80 ohm. Here are my thoughts: - The 700 doesn't just have lower treble than the 770, it feels like there is no treble at all. All of the air and detail we enjoy in music, gone. Yes, the 770's treble can get a little excessive at times but it's still better than having almost zero treble in my opinion. - The 700 has better sub-bass extension which is great but the mid-bass has a higher bump than on the 770 which makes kick drums annoyingly overpowered. They've replaced the treble spike of the 770 with a mid-bass spike instead. Pick your poison. - The 700 sounds a bit muffled compared to the 770. Maybe it's the new thick filter fabric they put over the drivers, but the 770 sounds a little clearer and it's not just the higher treble giving off that impression. I've heard other reports of the 700 and 900 Pro X sounding like there is a veil over the music. - The 700 has a narrower soundstage than the 770. Not by much, but it's noticeable. - The 700 has a much higher clamp force which makes it way less comfortable than the 770, despite having deeper earpads. And I don't have a very big head. In conclusion, I'd go for the 770 Pro as it has a clearer sound, a wider soundstage, is more comfortable and cheaper. The treble spike and lower sub-bass can easily be fixed with EQ and the 770 Pro can easily be modded to have a detachable cable (just look at a UA-cam tutorial). The 80 ohm version has just enough volume when driven by a phone but the 32 ohm version and 700 Pro X can get louder. Hope that helps some people make a more informed decision. Peace!
@@NintenPizza I tried them in the shop where I bought the 700 Pro X (which I later returned). I personally wouldn't switch from 770 to 900. The soundstage won't get any better (even though 900 is open back), sound will leak out, it suffers from the same "muffled" sound that is found on the 700 and has a painfully high clamp force. I also struggled to get a decently high volume from my phone with the 900 compared to the 700. Advantages of 900 Pro X are it measures flatter (though EQ can fix any headphone) and has a detachable cable. At the end of the day, you should try them for yourself to see if they fit your needs. All good retailers have a free return policy.
I'm definitely going for the dt770 but i dont know which one, im planning to use it for my phone and pc (no amp or dac) the 32, 80 and 250 ohm are all the same price, which one should i get?
@@woro. I'd say the 32 should be better suited for your needs since it'll be louder and has a shorter cable which is handy with a phone, but the 80 might be good too since it has a longer cable which is good for a pc, and people say it has a little more bass and a little less of a treble spike. Try both if you can.
Great comment! I'm definitely hearing that slightly muffled veil-like effect with my DT900 Pro X's after doing numerous comparisons between them and my DT770(250ohm's) paired with a DAC. Sure, the 900's sound a bit more open and offer a wider soundstage , which in return sounds a little warmer and more natural, but that natural sound instantly becomes compromised from that annoying veil which slathers all over the clarity. the 900's imo, have a harsher clamping force and the ear cup fabric just feels weird. Thinking of just opting for the 770(80ohm) over my 250ohm specifically for the straight cable AND ditching the DT900 Pro X's and getting a pair of DT1990's. I need both closed and open back, and based on what I'm hearing the DT900 and based on what you've said about the 700's wont do the trick.
I use the dt770 with 32 ohm for 2 years now, they are fantastic. I tamed the highs a bit and upped the bass a tick on the usb dac i use on my pc (from my old logitech g pro x). The cable is not curled and relatively short, perfect for me. I bought these in good condition used with fresh grey pads for 60 euros on ebay kleinanzeigen in germany, cant get more value than that i think.
Bought a pair of the DT 900 Pro Xs about a month ago and they really blew my mind for mixing. I'm considering picking up the 700 Pro Xs for recording now.
I'm getting rid of mine and going for the DT1990's instead. that Filtered, almost muffled Veil-like effect masking the clarity is a deal breaker for me personally. This isn't an issue at all with the DT770(250) Plus, the 900's aren't that much more spacious and open sounding Vs the 770's. There IS a difference, don't get me wrong but it's not night and day or that substantial or anything.
Thanks, great comparison. We use DT 770 Pros for tracking and are very happy although they can get a little warm if worn for long periods and we spend a lot of time getting tangles out of those curly leads! I wish they'd upgrade the 770s with detachable cables. Maybe we'll try these new 7700 Pro X for some bass player's tracking cans next time. Quite a big price difference though....
Good job as always, Mike. I'll give it a go some day, still loyal to my DT 770 Pro 250 Ω, but it could well be a quite steep turn to get used to such difference in its lower ends.
I also found the top end of the 700 Pro X a bit more subdued compared to other headphones. I mainly use them for DJ studio mixes. It took a bit of getting use to however I've found it suites my mixing style by prioritising in my ear the other frequency's to balance in the mix.
I've noticed BD headphones have a boominess to them. My 990 Pros are the same. Threw me off at first when mixing. But no doubting their quality and comfort. Nice comparison!
No they don't have, maybe the DT770 but the 880 definitely not it's the opposite, and 990 also not that much, but maybe everyone is different and hears different
Thank you, excellent review and you answered all my questions. My normal headphones, 64 Audio A12t's are in the shop for maintenance for a month, and I need a set headphones to cover some mixes in the meantime. The EQ curve on both 770 and 770x kind of freaked me out. It seems really "scooped" in the mids. But you and other have mentioned that the top end is les strident so that's a good thing. You helped me make an informed decision.
Post script. Having purchased the 700 Pro X I'll add and confirm many of your comments on the sound stage. Yes, they are lacking a little in the sub bass, and the actual bass I would describe as not exactly tight. It's not bad and by no means a deal killer, just a bit flabby. As for the highs, the EQ bump at 10K is noticeable especially on vocals, shakers, high hats etc. At higher volumes it can be a bit strident. I noticed this on some of my tracks and not others so that's something to be aware. In the end I could mix with these headphones no problem. The isolation and comfort is excellent. I'll keep them and do a few mixes and see how they translate to other speakers. They are a good tool to have in your studio set up especially if you do any mixes on the road from hotel rooms, HOWEVER, they should not be your only monitors. Combined with a good pair of monitors they will serve a mixer well.
I have the 700 ProX, which I love everything about, build, sound, looks, replaceable everything! Here in Australia, the 700s are about 25% more than the 770s, which I think isn't much to pay for the upgrades!
Which Version from the DT 770 you compared? I have the 32 Ohm version and highs and bass are on a sweet Spot. The 80 Ohm was too much for me in the highs.
would always prefer Better sound then a detachable cable plus you can buy even better earpads for DT770 then what DT700 has from Dekoni for ppl that want headphones for gaming and music DT 770 Pro 80ohm are the Best don't even look at DT 700 or DT1770 those two are Only Good for mixing and stuff
Have you tried the 250ohm 770’s? I’m looking to upgrade from those to the 900 Pro X. I want a more open wider soundstage while almost maintaining the same level of bass
I already have the 770 pro 32 ohm for basic listening on my phone and tablet which sound fantastic Is it worth the upgrade to 700 PRO X for a much better listening experience with the new driver & will they deliver more bass.
So I have both of those. The weight is just too big a difference. Yes the 700 PRO X earpads are outstanding, but that's not enough to make them more comfortable than the 770 pro, after a while you have them on you definitely notice it a lot more, at least that's my experience. Ah and I have the 770pro 80 ohm version with a straight cable which doesn't add much weight to the cans like a coiled cable often does
Is it better to use open-back headphones like the DT 990 and 900 for mixing and leave the closed-backs for recording/monitoring/tracking? That is how the headphones are sold by Beyer, but I've never quite understood because you do have more bass in a closed-back (as well as in IEMs). There's a sense that sound is more focused or concentrated at the ear, as well, in a closed back. I understand that you don't want sound leakage when recording, but at the same time I'm not sure if open-backs always represent sound more truthfully, especially if what you're hearing originated as electronic (synth), rather than live acoustic music.
I'm looking for pretty much the exact same specs comfort etc...on the DT 770's 80ohm version but with a detachable cable for the same price range of $160. Any suggestions? the non detachable cable is a big deal breaker for me but from what I've heard the DT 770 are amazing.
everything you want you can get from Custom Cans uk DT770 with detachable cable even Balanced if you want but it's around 180 pounds well worth it trust me much better then DT 700 or DT1770
@@CreativeSauce I'd would kindly ask for a review for the M70x. I am a music producer/Mixing and for one week been looking for closed headphones, M70x in mind but some other options. Could you please review it Mike!
Personally I use 2 headphones when producing. I use DT990s and HD25s (only use HD25s as a compact and lighter headphone while maintaining good frequency response when I’m working away from the studio). In my opinion the 250Ω DT990s are great regarding you can access a quiet space and if you are only mixing. Obviously never use open backs for recording - if you are recording 770s are the way to go in my opinion. In my setup I also use a Microamp just because I like having a wider volume control.
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I bought both the 700 Pro X and the 770 Pro 80 ohm. Here are my thoughts:
- The 700 doesn't just have lower treble than the 770, it feels like there is no treble at all. All of the air and detail we enjoy in music, gone. Yes, the 770's treble can get a little excessive at times but it's still better than having almost zero treble in my opinion.
- The 700 has better sub-bass extension which is great but the mid-bass has a higher bump than on the 770 which makes kick drums annoyingly overpowered. They've replaced the treble spike of the 770 with a mid-bass spike instead. Pick your poison.
- The 700 sounds a bit muffled compared to the 770. Maybe it's the new thick filter fabric they put over the drivers, but the 770 sounds a little clearer and it's not just the higher treble giving off that impression. I've heard other reports of the 700 and 900 Pro X sounding like there is a veil over the music.
- The 700 has a narrower soundstage than the 770. Not by much, but it's noticeable.
- The 700 has a much higher clamp force which makes it way less comfortable than the 770, despite having deeper earpads. And I don't have a very big head.
In conclusion, I'd go for the 770 Pro as it has a clearer sound, a wider soundstage, is more comfortable and cheaper.
The treble spike and lower sub-bass can easily be fixed with EQ and the 770 Pro can easily be modded to have a detachable cable (just look at a UA-cam tutorial).
The 80 ohm version has just enough volume when driven by a phone but the 32 ohm version and 700 Pro X can get louder.
Hope that helps some people make a more informed decision. Peace!
I’ve got the DT770(250ohm) and am looking to switch over to the DT900 Pro X’s. Have you tried them out by any chance?
@@NintenPizza I tried them in the shop where I bought the 700 Pro X (which I later returned).
I personally wouldn't switch from 770 to 900. The soundstage won't get any better (even though 900 is open back), sound will leak out, it suffers from the same "muffled" sound that is found on the 700 and has a painfully high clamp force. I also struggled to get a decently high volume from my phone with the 900 compared to the 700.
Advantages of 900 Pro X are it measures flatter (though EQ can fix any headphone) and has a detachable cable.
At the end of the day, you should try them for yourself to see if they fit your needs. All good retailers have a free return policy.
I'm definitely going for the dt770 but i dont know which one, im planning to use it for my phone and pc (no amp or dac) the 32, 80 and 250 ohm are all the same price, which one should i get?
@@woro. I'd say the 32 should be better suited for your needs since it'll be louder and has a shorter cable which is handy with a phone, but the 80 might be good too since it has a longer cable which is good for a pc, and people say it has a little more bass and a little less of a treble spike. Try both if you can.
Great comment! I'm definitely hearing that slightly muffled veil-like effect with my DT900 Pro X's after doing numerous comparisons between them and my DT770(250ohm's) paired with a DAC. Sure, the 900's sound a bit more open and offer a wider soundstage , which in return sounds a little warmer and more natural, but that natural sound instantly becomes compromised from that annoying veil which slathers all over the clarity. the 900's imo, have a harsher clamping force and the ear cup fabric just feels weird.
Thinking of just opting for the 770(80ohm) over my 250ohm specifically for the straight cable AND ditching the DT900 Pro X's and getting a pair of DT1990's. I need both closed and open back, and based on what I'm hearing the DT900 and based on what you've said about the 700's wont do the trick.
I use the dt770 with 32 ohm for 2 years now, they are fantastic. I tamed the highs a bit and upped the bass a tick on the usb dac i use on my pc (from my old logitech g pro x). The cable is not curled and relatively short, perfect for me. I bought these in good condition used with fresh grey pads for 60 euros on ebay kleinanzeigen in germany, cant get more value than that i think.
Bought a pair of the DT 900 Pro Xs about a month ago and they really blew my mind for mixing. I'm considering picking up the 700 Pro Xs for recording now.
I'm getting rid of mine and going for the DT1990's instead. that Filtered, almost muffled Veil-like effect masking the clarity is a deal breaker for me personally. This isn't an issue at all with the DT770(250) Plus, the 900's aren't that much more spacious and open sounding Vs the 770's. There IS a difference, don't get me wrong but it's not night and day or that substantial or anything.
Thanks, great comparison. We use DT 770 Pros for tracking and are very happy although they can get a little warm if worn for long periods and we spend a lot of time getting tangles out of those curly leads! I wish they'd upgrade the 770s with detachable cables. Maybe we'll try these new 7700 Pro X for some bass player's tracking cans next time. Quite a big price difference though....
You're about to get your wish. Beyerdynamic has a DT770 Pro X Limited Edition dropping. ua-cam.com/video/rKseqtJIGkg/v-deo.html
Good job as always, Mike. I'll give it a go some day, still loyal to my DT 770 Pro 250 Ω,
but it could well be a quite steep turn to get used to such difference in its lower ends.
I also found the top end of the 700 Pro X a bit more subdued compared to other headphones. I mainly use them for DJ studio mixes. It took a bit of getting use to however I've found it suites my mixing style by prioritising in my ear the other frequency's to balance in the mix.
I've noticed BD headphones have a boominess to them. My 990 Pros are the same. Threw me off at first when mixing. But no doubting their quality and comfort. Nice comparison!
No they don't have, maybe the DT770 but the 880 definitely not it's the opposite, and 990 also not that much, but maybe everyone is different and hears different
Well, most listeners speakers/room setups are VERY boomy, maybe not the worst thing to have in a mixing set of cans.
Thank you, excellent review and you answered all my questions. My normal headphones, 64 Audio A12t's are in the shop for maintenance for a month, and I need a set headphones to cover some mixes in the meantime. The EQ curve on both 770 and 770x kind of freaked me out. It seems really "scooped" in the mids. But you and other have mentioned that the top end is les strident so that's a good thing. You helped me make an informed decision.
Post script. Having purchased the 700 Pro X I'll add and confirm many of your comments on the sound stage. Yes, they are lacking a little in the sub bass, and the actual bass I would describe as not exactly tight. It's not bad and by no means a deal killer, just a bit flabby. As for the highs, the EQ bump at 10K is noticeable especially on vocals, shakers, high hats etc. At higher volumes it can be a bit strident. I noticed this on some of my tracks and not others so that's something to be aware. In the end I could mix with these headphones no problem. The isolation and comfort is excellent. I'll keep them and do a few mixes and see how they translate to other speakers. They are a good tool to have in your studio set up especially if you do any mixes on the road from hotel rooms, HOWEVER, they should not be your only monitors. Combined with a good pair of monitors they will serve a mixer well.
I have the 700 ProX, which I love everything about, build, sound, looks, replaceable everything! Here in Australia, the 700s are about 25% more than the 770s, which I think isn't much to pay for the upgrades!
ou damn for me the 700X Pro were around 100$ more expensive
How do treble and mids sound? Clear and detailed? I'm looking for closed back headphones which can give me as much fun possible as my Hifiman Sundara.
Thanks for the review! The DT 700 Pro X seem very interesting. I'll certainly try a listening test on them whenever I can safely go outside again.
Have u tried em?
@@TheItalianDude96 Not yet, I don't go out much :D
@@mimojapan me neither LOL. no places around here where I could test headphones like these. 😭
Which Version from the DT 770 you compared? I have the 32 Ohm version and highs and bass are on a sweet Spot. The 80 Ohm was too much for me in the highs.
Headband in DT700 Pro X is terrible in terms of durability. Leather is glued too thin and it peels off after a few months
Nonsense
@@EdwinDekker71 not nonsense. He put this negative comment because he can't even afford to buy a DT 700 pro X.
would always prefer Better sound then a detachable cable plus you can buy even better earpads for DT770 then what DT700 has from Dekoni
for ppl that want headphones for gaming and music DT 770 Pro 80ohm are the Best don't even look at DT 700 or DT1770 those two are Only Good for mixing and stuff
I was looking at the 770 and I’ve heard great things about it… However I think I’ll get the 770 due to the detachable wire.
Have you tried the 250ohm 770’s? I’m looking to upgrade from those to the 900 Pro X. I want a more open wider soundstage while almost maintaining the same level of bass
Nice review. Thanks
My pleasure.
May have to upgrade to the 700's then. Cheers for that.
I already have the 770 pro 32 ohm for basic listening on my phone and tablet which sound fantastic
Is it worth the upgrade to 700 PRO X for a much better listening experience with the new driver & will they deliver more bass.
DT 700 Pro X .
All I’ll ever need for home Hifi listening in gorgeous Stereo.
If anything they’ve told me I need a new integrated amp.
So I have both of those. The weight is just too big a difference. Yes the 700 PRO X earpads are outstanding, but that's not enough to make them more comfortable than the 770 pro, after a while you have them on you definitely notice it a lot more, at least that's my experience. Ah and I have the 770pro 80 ohm version with a straight cable which doesn't add much weight to the cans like a coiled cable often does
Thanks for the info
My pleasure
I use the 900 (OG - 250Ω) myself 😁
Is it better to use open-back headphones like the DT 990 and 900 for mixing and leave the closed-backs for recording/monitoring/tracking? That is how the headphones are sold by Beyer, but I've never quite understood because you do have more bass in a closed-back (as well as in IEMs). There's a sense that sound is more focused or concentrated at the ear, as well, in a closed back.
I understand that you don't want sound leakage when recording, but at the same time I'm not sure if open-backs always represent sound more truthfully, especially if what you're hearing originated as electronic (synth), rather than live acoustic music.
Is it worth it to almost 2x price when buying dt 700 pro x instead of 770 pro? For (trap) beats production purposes
Thank you for sharing 🙏
What measurement rig was used for the measurements? Other sources show massive differences in treble levels in favor of the DT 700 Pro X.
I'm looking for pretty much the exact same specs comfort etc...on the DT 770's 80ohm version but with a detachable cable for the same price range of $160. Any suggestions? the non detachable cable is a big deal breaker for me but from what I've heard the DT 770 are amazing.
everything you want you can get from Custom Cans uk DT770 with detachable cable even Balanced if you want but it's around 180 pounds well worth it trust me much better then DT 700 or DT1770
@@LyuboA Ok thanks 👍
Please do a review of the audio technical headphones 🙏
Any particular model?
@@CreativeSauce personally I'd say they're all worth looking at to see what's best overall and at each budget
@@CreativeSauce I'd would kindly ask for a review for the M70x. I am a music producer/Mixing and for one week been looking for closed headphones, M70x in mind but some other options. Could you please review it Mike!
I have the Audo-technica MX30.. which would be a good upgrade for my bedroom studio ?
What is your opinion on gaming for these headphones?
Do you have a review of the 1770
which of DT 770 pro is better for use with FLStudio 80 ohm or 250 ohm?
Depends what your looking for. 80 ohms will give you more volume
My dt770 pros didn't come with a coiled cable 🤨
me neither, i guess it only comes with the 250 ohm
@@georgenino9011 Yup, I have the 250 ohms, there the only ones coiled
Personally I use 2 headphones when producing. I use DT990s and HD25s (only use HD25s as a compact and lighter headphone while maintaining good frequency response when I’m working away from the studio). In my opinion the 250Ω DT990s are great regarding you can access a quiet space and if you are only mixing. Obviously never use open backs for recording - if you are recording 770s are the way to go in my opinion. In my setup I also use a Microamp just because I like having a wider volume control.
Para jugar competitivo y escuchar música además de conectarlo en móvil para también escuchar música, cuál versión me recomiendas? la 32 o 80? Y si me compro la 80, tendré problemas en el audio? dt700pro
@@leonjambondior ?
@@leonjambondior Hola?
Coiled cables, for me it's a definite NO!
My 770pros didn't come with a coiled cable
250 ohms are coiled while 80 ohms are not
😎 Thank You !!
this or the 990 pro x or akg 371 ?
371 except their questionable durability
@@clickbaitpro and why ? better sound quality ?
What was your choice George please :). I have the same question
0:06 didnt know that 770 pro was open-back
DT 900 Pro X
Hey the headphone you mentioned is open back and this video is about close back headphones. Don't give people false information.
DT 880 are best 😂😂 but are half open so don't for monitoring while singing or something like that