It's always nice to do a simple mod to something you've made, which then improves the original immensely ... excellent 👍 My solution is to always have a thick layer😁 of shavings and dust on the floor, which means you don't notice the new dust/shavings
Your method seems to be much more effective at eliminating the need for dust collection altogether Barry. LOL. Thanks for tuning in and for the chuckle.
That original video was approx a year ago and i enjoyed it back then, just as much as i enjoyed this one. I'm still amazed that no company has come along and made something like this. Stay Safe, Barry (ENG)
@@acutabove_woodworkings Since watching this second video on the magnetic dust collection, every Tom, Dick and Harry are making them now with a tweak here and there and claiming it as their own idea. Barry.
Kenny, a simple solution. I think that the problem is solved. Funny how the strength of magnets can be so different depending on the direction. Good fix.
Glad that you liked it Paul. I've been very happy with the fix so far and it has made the dust collection a joy to hook up and unhook. Thanks for tuning in to the show this week.
4 years ago I made similar dust collection system. However my system I use 5 inch hoses, I also made my flanges from water closet or toilet flanges. The most labor intensive part was sanding down the raised lettering on the flange face by taping 150 grit sand paper on a sheet of glass and sliding the flange forward and aft until the flange was flat. Then I recessed 1/2 diameter 4 N54 neodymium magnets in each flange. I have never had a flange separate unless I wanted it to. 🤣🛫
That's a very creative way to get dust collection fittings. I never thought of using something like a toilet flange. Well done. Thanks for tuning in and for chiming in with your story. I love it.
@@acutabove_woodworkings Kenny one of the reasons I always watch your videos is that they are informative and enjoyable to watch and you are good at explaining the details. The best part you take the time to acknowledge your viewers. That means a lot to me. Other high profile UA-camrs that do not respond to the very people that made them what they are today and do not respond. They get an unsubscribe from me. Thank you sir! 😁🛫
@@TheFalconJetDriver People are busy these days and my thoughts are that if someone takes the time out of their busy day to watch and comment on my show, the least I can do is respond to them. I do miss some comments from time to time but it isn't very often.
Great idea, You can also use this design as an adapter too. Lets say you want to connect to a 2" hose, like from a miter saw. Take the plywood piece, and instead of cutting the internal hole to be 4", make it the diameter of the miter saw hose. The hole doesn't have to be centered, most people put it on the bottom. You can now connect your hose to your miter saw because your magnetic fittings for both sides is the same size, just the internal hole is different.
Hi Kenny, very attracted by this video for some reason! but I think us down under are poles apart 🤣always amused when you Canadians and Americans go to your scrap stock and pull out a bit of walnut and maybe a sheet of ebony to make a jig, we would get some pine 🤣🤣 good jigs though. This is were your 3d printer will come in handy. I know you probably didn't have it then.
I've been contemplating using my 3D printer and making magnetic dust collections for the shop Philip. It's all a matter of figuring out the design. Believe me when I say, it's in the very front of my mind and we may just see something come out of this yet. Even possibly a shared file for those who have 3D printers. Either way, thanks for tuning in this week and for taking the time to leave your comment.
Great Update! Adding the flange is the best way to keep them from sliding off. I learned recently that stacking magnets improve their pull strength. Do you just have one Magnet in each Hole? Or are they stacked? Wondering how many around the hole are really needed, now that the flange helps keep it in place? I see so many people only use (4) around the hole and not hearing about any of them falling off, but they also stack them? And how many Stacked? I know the more, the better. I know it depends on how thick and what type each individual Magnet is. I guess it's just a lot of trial and error? My Luck, of course, I just got done making about 12 circles. Both inner & Outer. Wish I woud have seen your video sooner. I guess I can still modify mine with some sort of flange. It just won't be continuous. Just a circle with flat sides since i can only cut so far into them. Don't want to completely start over....lol
I might have tried pins. Drive about three lag screws into the stationary piece, cut off the heads, smooth the cuts, drill holes in the hose end to match.
If that's the method that works for you Bob, then by all means, do it that way. I appreciate you tuning in and chiming in with your suggestion. Thanks.
Great modification! I'm making my Octagonal fittings right now and think I'm gonna go for 2, maybe 3 magnets in all 8 positions on both the tool and hose fittings. I love the flange idea, especially for something like the Dewalt Planer. But a much simpler "fix" IMO, to solve just the shear force would seem to be drilling a hole through all the tool fittings and putting in a piece of wooden dowel that sticks up 1/2" and drilling a matching hole on all the hose fittings. Might take an extra second to line them up, but should completely solve the surprise shear problem and be a whole lot easier to modify. Maybe.... Or maybe not, since on yours all you have to modify is the hose side. Shit, what do I know. Think I'm gonna shuddup now.
LOL. You have to do what you think is best for your dust collection system Don. If the dowel idea works for you, then that's just great and I say go for it. The flange was also added to prevent the blowout from more powerful tools like the planer. I don't think the dowel will correct that issue. Let me know how you make out. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
I think it will all depend on what magnets you are using Mathieu. Give it a try and see how one magnet works out. Hopefully the framework around the flange will compensate for the sheer force and allow less magnets to be used. Thanks for tuning in.
The maths to work out the angle required is pretty simple. It’s 360 (as in 360 degrees) divided by the number of sides and then divide that number by 2 again. Example: for a square it’s 360/4/2
Originally you put the larger number of magnets in the hose end, increasing its weight. Adding the flange added to that weight and increased its bulk. I'd suggest putting that weight and bulk on the tool side.
I would love to do this for my shop but I have a hard enough time with 45 degree miters let alone 22.5. Any reason you went with the octagon shape? I could probably do round fairly easy, would there be any issues with that? I’m still dealing with the $2 miter gauge sawstop gives you lol
You can make it any shape you'd like Randy. I went with an octagon and making it on the table saw to make the project accessible to the major majority of tool owners but if you are able to make them round, then by all means, make them round. I hope this helps. Thanks for tuning in this week and for chiming in with your comment. Good luck with your $2 mitre gauge. (why are the supplied mitre gauges always such junk?)
That is pretty slick! I`m also always tickled to see a Busy Bee Tool make an appearance in someones video and it sure doesn`t happen often; only in the Canadian content. Is it the CT 053? I have the Hepa filter on mine. Great video. Thanks for sharing
This is a much older model that I have had for many years. I think it is the generation before the CT line came out but I'm not exactly sure. Thanks for tuning in Glenn and for taking the time to leave your comment. It's appreciated.
Man Glitter is awesome. I made a Christmas ornament years ago where I filled a clear ball with smaller maple wood chips. My wife them used her Cricut cutter to cut out the vinyl letters that say "Sawdust is Man Glitter". It's an awesome ornament. Thanks for tuning in Brian.
@@acutabove_woodworkings lol concrete plant... Biggest vacuum I've ever had and I wish the 4 inch lines could go together like this! Very clever mod!
I'm not sure what brand it is Christian. I live in Canada and there is a store where I live called Busy Bee Tools. I think it might be their house brand. Here's a link. www.busybeetools.com/products/pvc-hose-4in-grey-10-feet.html I hope it helps. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
It's always nice to do a simple mod to something you've made, which then improves the original immensely ... excellent 👍
My solution is to always have a thick layer😁 of shavings and dust on the floor, which means you don't notice the new dust/shavings
Your method seems to be much more effective at eliminating the need for dust collection altogether Barry. LOL. Thanks for tuning in and for the chuckle.
I'm headed to the shop to modify mine! 2.0.... I like it!
Thanks Ken, and your followers!
I modified this quite a while ago and it has been an amazing improvement. Good luck with your modification and thanks for tuning in to the show.
Yep good one kenny, I am never disappointed when watching your videos.
Glad to hear that you enjoy the show William. Thanks for tuning in and for taking the time to leave your comment.
That looks awesome. I wish I had room for a dust collection unit in my shed.
Glad that you liked it Mark. Thanks for tuning in. (they make dust collectors now that mount up on the wall for those with less space in the shop)
Great simple upgrade to your previous design 🤠
Glad that you liked it Randy. Thanks for tuning in.
That original video was approx a year ago and i enjoyed it back then, just as much as i enjoyed this one.
I'm still amazed that no company has come along and made something like this.
Stay Safe,
Barry (ENG)
Don't say that too loud Barry or they will and charge a fortune for something that we just fabricated out of scrap. Thanks for tuning in this week.
@@acutabove_woodworkings Since watching this second video on the magnetic dust collection, every Tom, Dick and Harry are making them now with a tweak here and there and claiming it as their own idea.
Barry.
Kenny, a simple solution. I think that the problem is solved. Funny how the strength of magnets can be so different depending on the direction. Good fix.
Glad that you liked it Paul. I've been very happy with the fix so far and it has made the dust collection a joy to hook up and unhook. Thanks for tuning in to the show this week.
4 years ago I made similar dust collection system. However my system I use 5 inch hoses, I also made my flanges from water closet or toilet flanges. The most labor intensive part was sanding down the raised lettering on the flange face by taping 150 grit sand paper on a sheet of glass and sliding the flange forward and aft until the flange was flat. Then I recessed 1/2 diameter 4 N54 neodymium magnets in each flange. I have never had a flange separate unless I wanted it to. 🤣🛫
That's a very creative way to get dust collection fittings. I never thought of using something like a toilet flange. Well done. Thanks for tuning in and for chiming in with your story. I love it.
@@acutabove_woodworkings Kenny one of the reasons I always watch your videos is that they are informative and enjoyable to watch and you are good at explaining the details. The best part you take the time to acknowledge your viewers. That means a lot to me. Other high profile UA-camrs that do not respond to the very people that made them what they are today and do not respond. They get an unsubscribe from me. Thank you sir! 😁🛫
@@TheFalconJetDriver People are busy these days and my thoughts are that if someone takes the time out of their busy day to watch and comment on my show, the least I can do is respond to them. I do miss some comments from time to time but it isn't very often.
Great idea, You can also use this design as an adapter too. Lets say you want to connect to a 2" hose, like from a miter saw. Take the plywood piece, and instead of cutting the internal hole to be 4", make it the diameter of the miter saw hose. The hole doesn't have to be centered, most people put it on the bottom. You can now connect your hose to your miter saw because your magnetic fittings for both sides is the same size, just the internal hole is different.
A great idea Scott and another fantastic modification or use for this project. Thanks for tuning in this week and for chiming in with your suggestion.
Great upgrade. Fun video.
Glad that you liked it. Thanks for tuning in.
Hi Kenny, very attracted by this video for some reason! but I think us down under are poles apart 🤣always amused when you Canadians and Americans go to your scrap stock and pull out a bit of walnut and maybe a sheet of ebony to make a jig, we would get some pine 🤣🤣 good jigs though. This is were your 3d printer will come in handy. I know you probably didn't have it then.
I've been contemplating using my 3D printer and making magnetic dust collections for the shop Philip. It's all a matter of figuring out the design. Believe me when I say, it's in the very front of my mind and we may just see something come out of this yet. Even possibly a shared file for those who have 3D printers. Either way, thanks for tuning in this week and for taking the time to leave your comment.
Great Update!
Adding the flange is the best way to keep them from sliding off.
I learned recently that stacking magnets improve their pull strength.
Do you just have one Magnet in each Hole? Or are they stacked?
Wondering how many around the hole are really needed, now that the flange helps keep it in place?
I see so many people only use (4) around the hole and not hearing about any of them falling off, but they also stack them?
And how many Stacked?
I know the more, the better.
I know it depends on how thick and what type each individual Magnet is.
I guess it's just a lot of trial and error?
My Luck, of course, I just got done making about 12 circles. Both inner & Outer.
Wish I woud have seen your video sooner.
I guess I can still modify mine with some sort of flange.
It just won't be continuous.
Just a circle with flat sides since i can only cut so far into them.
Don't want to completely start over....lol
The magnets were stacked. 2 in each hole. I hope this helps. Thanks for tuning in
Thats neat Kenny.
Glad that you liked it Karl. Thanks for tuning in to the show this week.
Excellent!
Glad that you liked it Bryan. Thanks for tuning in to the show
I might have tried pins. Drive about three lag screws into the stationary piece, cut off the heads, smooth the cuts, drill holes in the hose end to match.
If that's the method that works for you Bob, then by all means, do it that way. I appreciate you tuning in and chiming in with your suggestion. Thanks.
Great modification! I'm making my Octagonal fittings right now and think I'm gonna go for 2, maybe 3 magnets in all 8 positions on both the tool and hose fittings. I love the flange idea, especially for something like the Dewalt Planer. But a much simpler "fix" IMO, to solve just the shear force would seem to be drilling a hole through all the tool fittings and putting in a piece of wooden dowel that sticks up 1/2" and drilling a matching hole on all the hose fittings. Might take an extra second to line them up, but should completely solve the surprise shear problem and be a whole lot easier to modify. Maybe.... Or maybe not, since on yours all you have to modify is the hose side. Shit, what do I know. Think I'm gonna shuddup now.
LOL. You have to do what you think is best for your dust collection system Don. If the dowel idea works for you, then that's just great and I say go for it. The flange was also added to prevent the blowout from more powerful tools like the planer. I don't think the dowel will correct that issue. Let me know how you make out. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
Great idea. With this latest upgrade, do you think it's still necessary to use a stack of 5 magnets on the flange on the collector side ?
I think it will all depend on what magnets you are using Mathieu. Give it a try and see how one magnet works out. Hopefully the framework around the flange will compensate for the sheer force and allow less magnets to be used. Thanks for tuning in.
The maths to work out the angle required is pretty simple. It’s 360 (as in 360 degrees) divided by the number of sides and then divide that number by 2 again.
Example: for a square it’s 360/4/2
Thanks for tuning in and for chiming in with the math for the angles Dean. It's appreciated.
Originally you put the larger number of magnets in the hose end, increasing its weight. Adding the flange added to that weight and increased its bulk. I'd suggest putting that weight and bulk on the tool side.
Great suggestion Bob. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
I would love to do this for my shop but I have a hard enough time with 45 degree miters let alone 22.5. Any reason you went with the octagon shape? I could probably do round fairly easy, would there be any issues with that? I’m still dealing with the $2 miter gauge sawstop gives you lol
You can make it any shape you'd like Randy. I went with an octagon and making it on the table saw to make the project accessible to the major majority of tool owners but if you are able to make them round, then by all means, make them round. I hope this helps. Thanks for tuning in this week and for chiming in with your comment. Good luck with your $2 mitre gauge. (why are the supplied mitre gauges always such junk?)
That is pretty slick! I`m also always tickled to see a Busy Bee Tool make an appearance in someones video and it sure doesn`t happen often; only in the Canadian content. Is it the CT 053? I have the Hepa filter on mine. Great video. Thanks for sharing
This is a much older model that I have had for many years. I think it is the generation before the CT line came out but I'm not exactly sure. Thanks for tuning in Glenn and for taking the time to leave your comment. It's appreciated.
I like to refer to sawdust as Man Glitter, lol
WD 40 is man cologne
Man Glitter is awesome. I made a Christmas ornament years ago where I filled a clear ball with smaller maple wood chips. My wife them used her Cricut cutter to cut out the vinyl letters that say "Sawdust is Man Glitter". It's an awesome ornament. Thanks for tuning in Brian.
I have 124 bags on my bag house and a 15hp blower... Sucks good
Glad to hear it. Thanks for tuning in this week.
@@acutabove_woodworkings lol concrete plant... Biggest vacuum I've ever had and I wish the 4 inch lines could go together like this! Very clever mod!
Which brand flex hose do you have?
I'm not sure what brand it is Christian. I live in Canada and there is a store where I live called Busy Bee Tools. I think it might be their house brand. Here's a link. www.busybeetools.com/products/pvc-hose-4in-grey-10-feet.html
I hope it helps. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
@@acutabove_woodworkings thanks