Peter Zeihan: Mapping the Collapse of Globalization

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  • Опубліковано 4 гру 2022
  • Was 2019 the last great year for the world economy? For generations, everything has been getting faster, better and cheaper. Complex, innovative industries were created to satisfy consumers, but are we at the brink of not being able to sustain ongoing demand?
    Geopolitical strategist Peter Zeihan asserts it is only a matter of time before major changes will start to unfold that will affect how we manufacture goods, grow food and produce energy. Additionally, the list of countries able to sustain this model is much smaller than you might think.
    Zeihan issues an urgent call to avoid what he sees as a catastrophic ending and maps out what the “next” world will look like.
    Notes
    This program is supported by the Ken & Jaclyn Broad Family Fund.
    Photo by Barton Wilder.
    December 2, 2022
    Speakers
    Peter Zeihan
    Author, The End of the World Is Just the Beginning: Mapping the Collapse of Globalization; Twitter @PeterZeihan
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  • @briano9397
    @briano9397 Рік тому +11

    Why do organizations insist on having 7 introductions before getting to the point

  • @vl8962
    @vl8962 Рік тому +357

    The world is starving for non-political and non-narrative creating content and information. Thank you!

    • @Kid_Ikaris
      @Kid_Ikaris Рік тому +8

      Interesting way of looking at things

    • @aristocraticrebel
      @aristocraticrebel Рік тому +26

      Everything is political.

    • @vl8962
      @vl8962 Рік тому +9

      @Aristocratic Rebel except politics, which is manipulation and force

    • @subcitizen2012
      @subcitizen2012 Рік тому +15

      Non political politics, non narrative narratives, and non content content.
      Don't quit your day job Einstein.

    • @muriccampbell9184
      @muriccampbell9184 Рік тому

      Non - narrative? Russia and China are about to collapse and the USA is fantastic? Sounds like a narrative to me..

  • @metameta1427
    @metameta1427 10 місяців тому +10

    I like how Peter puts all these pieces together. I've heard about many of these issues repeatedly since the early 2000s, but they way he weaves them together and his almost "story teller" type analysis and outlook is quite captivating and interesting. Enjoy his lectures immensely.

    • @BladeRunner21577
      @BladeRunner21577 4 місяці тому

      If what Peter is saying is true about the end of the cold war why was NATO always intent on advancing closer and closer to Russia? Why was the number one threat to NATO Russia? Why was Russia, who according to Peter was no longer a threat, not allowed entry into NATO? That one act in itself proves Peter is wrong. And because of that all other theories must be questionable at the very least.
      He does a really good job of convincing people that certain things are linked because he doesnt tell the whole story.

  • @ryanmullaney9791
    @ryanmullaney9791 Рік тому +23

    Interview starts at 4:00

    • @justin_lee_
      @justin_lee_ Рік тому +3

      ☝️ the hero we don't deserve

    • @DJK-cq2uy
      @DJK-cq2uy Рік тому +1

      Thanks. What an insight

  • @a1webguy
    @a1webguy Рік тому +18

    GHW Bush wasn't voted out of for wanting a conversation on the "New World Order", it was "Read my lips , No new taxes" and then going back on his word and Ross Perot as a third party candidate.

    • @landontesar3070
      @landontesar3070 Рік тому

      I think Peter could have made the point differently, Bush's message was not well received, though the neocon agenda continued

    • @casteretpollux
      @casteretpollux Рік тому +1

      Bush promoted disaggregation of Europe - the current proxy war in Ukraine is directed in part at economic weakening of Europe.

    • @landontesar3070
      @landontesar3070 Рік тому

      @@casteretpollux hi Cass..thanks.. did not know that..I will check it out!

    • @bluewaters3100
      @bluewaters3100 Рік тому

      Bill Clinton was backed heavily by the Democratic party and he had a crazy charisma that I believe is what got him elected. The man lied under oath during questioning about his affair with M.L. and he talked his way out of it and then was voted in for a second term. It was absolutely unbelievable. Hillary Clinton and Obama ruined the Democratic party and now Biden is doing the same.

    • @cooldudecs
      @cooldudecs Рік тому

      It was 2008.

  • @danielfirestine9414
    @danielfirestine9414 Рік тому +3

    We need people like him more than ever

  • @imnotanalien7839
    @imnotanalien7839 Рік тому +26

    Great information… Peter Ziehan
    is like an macro encyclopedia. Really interesting discussion.

  • @dougmanzo9648
    @dougmanzo9648 Рік тому +1

    Dude don’t have to interrupt because Peter is a perfect interview. He will keep topics very brief.

  • @conniegee8664
    @conniegee8664 Рік тому +50

    Mr Zeihan explains the global economy very well.

    • @2Question-Everything
      @2Question-Everything Рік тому

      Perhaps-but he can't see any other paradigm outside of capitalism or ones already tried. I mean, if the system failed globally its going to fail locally.

  • @sirchris999
    @sirchris999 Рік тому +7

    Love the Middles Ages , Renaissance and Enlightenment connections. He is right.

  • @philip48230
    @philip48230 Рік тому +14

    One of Peters better interview presentations

    • @8vI
      @8vI Рік тому

      He was great on joe Rogan

  • @victoriameyers5870
    @victoriameyers5870 Рік тому +59

    Peter Ziehan is the genius who explains life in the 21st centruy to all of us!

    • @johnsmith1474
      @johnsmith1474 Рік тому +9

      He's a pop culture analyst.

    • @mattfinleylive
      @mattfinleylive Рік тому +5

      @@johnsmith1474 That's good, because we're not lookin' for arcane culture analysis.

    • @santiflipinago
      @santiflipinago Рік тому

      you spelled "schiff" wrong

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 Рік тому +5

      Zeihan tells the story that America will always come out on top. It's a fantasy

    • @JesusChrist5000
      @JesusChrist5000 Рік тому +1

      I like the analysis, but he does not take into account the recent innovation in Hot Fusion power that has been disclosed by the mainstream media. Cold fusion is also a reality as well which the media does not disclose, but I know for a fact that the US navy has an actual patent for a cold fusion reactor. This will make dependency on fossil fuels unnecessary. Fusion power alone has huge beneficial implications for the future.

  • @thomasbarrack1384
    @thomasbarrack1384 Рік тому +9

    Peter needs to go on lex Friedman or Joe Rogan podcast. More people need to hear this stuff.

    • @mysterioanonymous3206
      @mysterioanonymous3206 Рік тому +4

      Like what? He's talks about exploding gas prices in EU for example. Ok. But since this interview they have fallen to pre war levels. So basically he was wrong. We could in fact replace Russian gas with LNG and it's not 6x pricier...
      Hes an entertaining man and he brings a unique perspective, but one shouldn't be too naive. He sells books and speeches. And he does that well. That the EU, a millenia old civilization, or China a multiple millenia old civilization, just collapse into nothingness is unlikely to happen.

    • @ravenconnolly5368
      @ravenconnolly5368 Рік тому +1

      He was just on Joe Rogan this week!

    • @thomasbarrack1384
      @thomasbarrack1384 Рік тому

      @@ravenconnolly5368 i know, I saw! I was stoked!

  • @cyrilignatiuskendrick6663
    @cyrilignatiuskendrick6663 Рік тому +26

    Such a nice discussion! We need much more of this today!

  • @peredavi
    @peredavi Рік тому +35

    “We’re not going to suffer as much as the others” Never mind the drug addiction epidemic, homelessness ( from drug addiction and mental illness), broken families, “culture war”, poor education, lack of young people going into trades and vocations instead of getting college degrees with no good career path…….

    • @BooBat1960
      @BooBat1960 Рік тому +17

      Still better than others. Sad but true.

    • @cooldudecs
      @cooldudecs Рік тому +7

      We have unlimited food and oil. They can manage 😊

    • @peredavi
      @peredavi Рік тому +6

      @@cooldudecs We have first world problems, but some politicians are trying to kill the golden goose.

    • @rrussell39
      @rrussell39 Рік тому +3

      And at any one point in U.S. history, we could replace each of those listed problems and issues with something of equal societal importance and impact. But still...would likely be better than the other countries in comparison. I guess having 'some' problems is better than 'all' problems.

    • @christopherbelanger6612
      @christopherbelanger6612 Рік тому +2

      Yet, still doing better than anyone historically. Good but not perfect, nobody is

  • @waelben2000
    @waelben2000 Рік тому +72

    Thank you guys. This was brilliant. We need more of this.

    • @eirikmagnuslarssen4242
      @eirikmagnuslarssen4242 Рік тому +2

      Seconded. Excellent discussion.

    • @brentmcgee1534
      @brentmcgee1534 Рік тому +3

      More of what ? Fantasies ? Like men get pregnant? Lol ? These guys are so full of BS

    • @donaleigh2352
      @donaleigh2352 Рік тому

      @@brentmcgee1534 I wonder what Biden has done that he is praisig him for? I cant think of anything

  • @ParcelOfRogue
    @ParcelOfRogue Рік тому +25

    A fact on early globalisation and empire. The colourful clap board houses of St. John's Newfoundland which were in the British Empire, briefly independent, then Canada from '49 were built with coal shutes to take the stuff tipped down to basements with small fire places built for coal, not the local wood, with coal shipped from English Lancashire coal mines and Newcastle across the Atlantic. Yet they had pine and birch trees in millions on their doorsteps.

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 Рік тому +1

      That's hilarious

    • @randacnam7321
      @randacnam7321 Рік тому +12

      Birch can be good firewood. Pine is a one way ticket to a chimney fire.

    • @bulutturok7322
      @bulutturok7322 Рік тому +2

      Here beginneth the lesson on how to sell fridges to eskimos and coal to Canadians who live in pine and Birch tree forests.

    • @peredavi
      @peredavi Рік тому +7

      Coal has far more energy per kilo. The stove can be stoked in the morning and burn all day. People were struggling to stay warm and alive. I burn spruce and pine in my wood/ cookstove. It doesn’t burn long before needing to be fe. It will not burn all night. If I lived off grid, i would have a coal stove.

    • @Mike-fx4nu
      @Mike-fx4nu Рік тому +3

      My parents' house in New York State has a coal chute. Coal and wood are not equal. When I was a kid, we had a wood stove. Much of rural America still has wood stoves.

  • @Stewart5225
    @Stewart5225 Рік тому +3

    Fantastic interview Quinton!! Peter was an awesome guest!

  • @marcusbryant2690
    @marcusbryant2690 Рік тому +2

    There aren't windy places in Europe? Dude, there is a reason the windmill is a national symbol of the Netherlands.

  • @toddinde
    @toddinde Рік тому +112

    I never get tired of hearing Peter’s insights. Very solid analysis.

    • @sebastianwrites
      @sebastianwrites Рік тому +6

      You like Peter's insight, I've only listened to a few minutes and it is nonsense. His criticism of Obama, and Obama thinking he knows best... is in accurate analyses.

    • @toddinde
      @toddinde Рік тому

      @@sebastianwrites Well, there are certainly things I take issue with like Russia needing to control the gateways. Is that really important in an age of nukes? I’m not sure.

    • @DJK-cq2uy
      @DJK-cq2uy Рік тому

      Relieved you feel that way!!!

    • @jeffhicks8428
      @jeffhicks8428 Рік тому +1

      high school drop outs love this guy

    • @hosoiarchives4858
      @hosoiarchives4858 Рік тому

      Peter is like a stopped clock being read by captain obvious

  • @springerlowell2745
    @springerlowell2745 Рік тому +5

    BASF is investing $780 million in Louisiana and $10 billion in Guangdong, China.

  • @77goanywhere
    @77goanywhere Рік тому +4

    The conversations around tables this Christmas were going to be interesting in most parts of the world anyway. Peter Zeihan is talking about the end of Christmas as we currently know it!

  • @georgeflitzer7160
    @georgeflitzer7160 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for these insights!❤

  • @magellan500
    @magellan500 Рік тому +4

    Many thanks for hosting Mr. Zeihan. His comments are always worth listening to.

  • @wheelmanjosh1982
    @wheelmanjosh1982 Рік тому +13

    Bravo, Peter Z! The future looks like a positive place. Justice is coming for a lot of people.

  • @isildursbane2758
    @isildursbane2758 Рік тому +5

    Me zeihan should be a Disney script writer

  • @earljohnson2113
    @earljohnson2113 Рік тому +32

    What a fantastic discussion..I rolled my eyes at a hours time but found this to be a fantastic, informative ,educational discussion. Thanks guys for a great show.

    • @ericb6048
      @ericb6048 Рік тому +1

      Don't take too much faith into what he discussed. There's reasons to be skeptical. Also, the interviewer was not apt.

    • @earljohnson2113
      @earljohnson2113 Рік тому +1

      @@ericb6048 What reasons? True,all that they say will happen may not pan out. Esp if nuclear Weapons are brought out.

    • @christopherbelanger6612
      @christopherbelanger6612 Рік тому +1

      @@earljohnson2113 Peter spoke about nuclear weapons in a different interview and has definitely thought about it a great deal, eve within the context of the was conflict in Ukraine. It's not an oversight.
      I tend to think that nuclear weapons wont be an issue. Nothing indicates it would be. Not unless someone invades Russia. Russia wont use them offensively and nobody is threatening to invade Russia, and likely wont.

    • @earljohnson2113
      @earljohnson2113 Рік тому

      @@christopherbelanger6612 How do you know that ? You don't know what Russia will really do. Neither does Pete.

    • @earljohnson2113
      @earljohnson2113 Рік тому

      @P A I rolled my eyes at an hours time to watch the show. Duh

  • @heleneelong3679
    @heleneelong3679 Рік тому

    Great interview!
    Shows how important it is to do our own research and educate ourselves.
    This is looking at the situation without taking all aspects into consideration.

  • @FaithfulObjectivist
    @FaithfulObjectivist Рік тому +22

    Outstanding program this year by The Commonwealth Club. Hard to imagine better closer than Mr. Zeihan.

  • @dougnorthcote3420
    @dougnorthcote3420 Рік тому +12

    Been watching Zeihan just about every day from his daily blog and catching presentations like this online, and my question is what he see's world population stabilizing at.
    Quote from him on a Chris Williamson podcast (Pretty sure it was that) "If I'm right, we've already peaked in population."

    • @bullfrog5037
      @bullfrog5037 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, the world's population from here on out will only shrink.

    • @spacemonkey9000
      @spacemonkey9000 Рік тому +3

      -2B from what we are now

    • @judithmackay7158
      @judithmackay7158 Рік тому +4

      Definitely, both birth rates and fertility are falling rapidly, Scotland is already below sustainable level.

    • @dougnorthcote3420
      @dougnorthcote3420 Рік тому

      @@judithmackay7158 Agreed. but you hit too low, having read all his books etc, roughly first world countries are healthy demographics (if I remember right)
      US
      France
      Sweden
      New Zealand
      (not first but) Argentina.
      ALL of the rest of the European countries are well below sustain, Most are in massive decline. And the list above... most of the rest of the world is way past decline

    • @Mike-fx4nu
      @Mike-fx4nu Рік тому

      $60k median income across the board requires we drop to 1.5 billion. 80% decline.

  • @ericgibson2079
    @ericgibson2079 Рік тому

    Thank You for your service and hard work. Merry Christmas! Glad I found you...

  • @dragonflydroneservices1021
    @dragonflydroneservices1021 Рік тому

    Good questions. Fascinating answers…
    Gratitude

  • @SueFerreira75
    @SueFerreira75 Рік тому +44

    Excellent discussion and great moderation - thank you both.

    • @eirikmagnuslarssen4242
      @eirikmagnuslarssen4242 Рік тому +2

      Peter's take on these complex issues is very clarifying. Recommended viewing.

  • @steverowland1898
    @steverowland1898 Рік тому +12

    Thank you for this thought provoking interview.

  • @jerrystephenson1172
    @jerrystephenson1172 Рік тому

    this is the kind of info. we need & not available on ANY national or international media, thanks

  • @michaelh7770
    @michaelh7770 Рік тому +2

    I find it fascinating, that Peter essentially never discusses India. A country, with a larger population than China, growing at a faster rate, and yet it never makes any of his presentations.

    • @RoxyFredstun-tq3bc
      @RoxyFredstun-tq3bc 11 місяців тому

      India is very nationalistic and old Soros hates that

  • @billdavis5483
    @billdavis5483 Рік тому +12

    every time I listen to Peter Ziehan I cannot stop listening and now Quentin Hardy is great for feeding the discussion.

  • @antonleimbach648
    @antonleimbach648 Рік тому +5

    How do you see the disparity of ship building capacity in the USA Vs China? We used to be a shipbuilding nation but now we cannot even build enough ships for our own Navy and have to get them from Italy (Constellation Frigates)

    • @cooldudecs
      @cooldudecs Рік тому

      Block the straits and China does

  • @8vI
    @8vI Рік тому +1

    Love the content. Thanks Peter

  • @arktseytlin
    @arktseytlin 10 місяців тому +2

    English-speaking technical capacity in Mexico and South America is an absolute great thing, and it is already happening. It would be a shame for those countries to leave such a great market as IT outsourcing on the table, and I am glad they are not. It is so much easier to work with people in your own time zone or close to it.

  • @mremington8
    @mremington8 Рік тому +7

    the self aggrandizing stops and the actual interview starts at 5.21

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke3869 Рік тому +8

    Why does Google Cloud have an "editorial director"?
    I thought cloud services were supposed to be a platform, not a publisher.

  • @joelnicholson8781
    @joelnicholson8781 Рік тому

    I cannot think of anyone who has a better read on geopolitical reality. Superb!

  • @myronanderson9534
    @myronanderson9534 Рік тому

    Thanks for your thoughts, I don’t always agree with your opinion but I do appreciate your logic!

  • @rottenrick1969
    @rottenrick1969 Рік тому +4

    This guy is the perfect example of someone who LOVES listening to himself talk.

  • @christophermills9289
    @christophermills9289 Рік тому +26

    I have read and listened to Peter Ziehen based on the advise of a friend I respect. While he does say some interesting things he seems to be geared towards telling a American business audience what they want to hear. That they will come out on top without any effort based on geographic factors.

    • @hlim431
      @hlim431 Рік тому

      How would most Americans discern if this was true or false! It does NOT pay to be the harbinger of bad news... An economic blockade is an ACT of War --- the way USA is going will most likely cause WW3 which is what USA is begging for anyway inorder to avert an end of USD hegemony. The problem with this is that nuclear escalation is inevitable & China is unlikely to allow USA to attack (nuclear) first. Those who accept Peter Zeihan's comments on Russia & Ukraine I highly recommend Scott Ritter & Doug McGregor (just 5 mins) will expose JUST how strong Russia is & how weak USA is in reality! Ritter & McGregor are American patriots NOT being paid to speak they do not how to lie!

    • @dol3980
      @dol3980 Рік тому +10

      His narrative is based on the selected audience that pays for his biased viewpoints - which are not supported by reality. U picked this up but most sheeple listening won't, and believe he is a guru (LOL).

    • @christophermills9289
      @christophermills9289 Рік тому +1

      @@hlim431 Scott Ritter has two guily pleas in regards sex related offenses with what he thought were underage girls and served both probabation for the first offense and prison sentence for the second offense.
      Douglas McGregor was rejected as amabassador to Germany by the US senate over numerous racist remarks and other unwise statements.

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 Рік тому

      @@christophermills9289 Ritter was the guy who called out fake WMDs way before the Iraq invasion even happened.
      He testified in the senate regarding these assertions. Senator Joe Biden told Ritter that he was making accusations against people far above his pay grade. Ritter was later proven to be absolutely correct. The establishment despises him for that.
      Ritter was set up, tried on false charges with no witnesses. The American justice system is built to support the American establishment and the superempire hegemony. Any means necessary will be used against those viewed as threats.
      At least Ritter is free, unlike others like Assange and Snowden.
      As you noticed, zeihan is not a threat. He's contracted to team America. MacGregor as a free agent, is also somewhat threatening to the establishment. But Ritter actually challenged, beat and made a mockery of the establishment in its most hallowed hall. Think about that....

    • @xrxs1020
      @xrxs1020 Рік тому +1

      ​@@christophermills9289 Scott Ritter was likely punished for being a truth-teller. Ritter's original sin was that he told us Saddam had no WMD. If global elites don't like someone's message, it's a simple matter to conjure charges against them, and every person on the planet will probably be guilty of something. This is how control is sustained. Fear works, and every nation-state knows this. Similarly, now that Elon Musk is bringing free speech to Twitter, suddenly charges against him are appearing. Same with Trump or anyone who breaks the mold of go-along-to-get-along leaders.

  • @theknifedude1881
    @theknifedude1881 Рік тому

    Thank you. I really appreciated the program. I’m subscribed.

  • @BBQDad463
    @BBQDad463 Рік тому

    Thank you for this video. Mr. Zeihan is truly a wonder.
    Subscribed.

  • @malcolmmirage4204
    @malcolmmirage4204 Рік тому +20

    Super interview with Peter Zeihan. He’s a shot of black coffee when it comes to the political spin drunkin news we get from all our media no matter what country. What a lot of commenters miss is the man has written three diff books. And he’s been off the mark a few times but the reason he’s so in demand is because his analysis of the geo political situation is on more often than off.

  • @foraquid
    @foraquid Рік тому +7

    I have watched a lot of Peter's interviews. They are really interesting but I couldn't get rid of a nagging feeling that there is something missing or something warping the truths which he states.
    Then I realized what was missing: the biggest danger are not the changing physical conditions which Peter points out, but the inability of us, collectively, to react such changes rationally.
    Politics, culture, and the way people socialize and interact has become so deranged and polarized that I can't see anyway that we can predict the crazy things people are persuaded to believe in order for people who want power to maintain it.
    For example, when various global systems collapse, will Americans accept closer relations with Mexico despite the obvious advantages or necessity, or - more likely - will opportunistic politicians trying to cling to power continue to encourage them to burn the house down, and then double down by blaming the following damage as further "evidence" that they they need to keep on burning?

    • @MarcinKryszak
      @MarcinKryszak Рік тому

      Good point. Also one more element is missing. The "elite". What I mean, is deep state + few of those elite clubs, like wef.

  • @daviddwyer2588
    @daviddwyer2588 Рік тому

    Intelligent open conversation. Thank you

  • @tvtothepoint
    @tvtothepoint Рік тому

    56:22 From this minute forward he is spot on!

  • @NayokeHenji
    @NayokeHenji Рік тому +9

    So much of this goes so far over my head, and it's exciting. I have a lot to learn and am enjoying every second.

    • @toddinde
      @toddinde Рік тому

      It helps to listen to counter arguments. However, Peter’s analysis almost always comes out on top. We’ve been raised on a diet of China is ten feet tall which isn’t the case.

    • @toddinde
      @toddinde Рік тому +1

      @@jerryjessup9192 Ray Dalio. I don’t find him persuasive. But then I’ve come to the conclusion that part of the Pivot to Asia/China is ten feet tall argument is a resource grab by the Air Force and Navy. I’m not saying China isn’t a threat, but I think it’s overblown.

  • @gomerpyle7721
    @gomerpyle7721 Рік тому +9

    I recognize that Peter indicates that cheap (low-interest) capital is going to be limited. But I think you have to seriously consider AI and automation will make a big difference. I look at 80’s Japan, but with computing power, as an example.

    • @Mike-fx4nu
      @Mike-fx4nu Рік тому +1

      Social ills be damned.

    • @cooldudecs
      @cooldudecs Рік тому

      You need young people

    • @TokyoTaisu
      @TokyoTaisu Рік тому

      Gomer Pyle valid point. Elon Musk mentioned that if you can spawn robots as human beings then your cap on GDP is basically unlimited. So for that matter as long as GDP per capita grows, whether that is robots or humans, then you still have economic growth, which allows investments, which allows current systems to continue.

    • @Mike-fx4nu
      @Mike-fx4nu Рік тому

      @@TokyoTaisu It won't cost anything to build robots. Lithium and cobalt will magically appear on the Earth.

    • @TokyoTaisu
      @TokyoTaisu Рік тому

      @@Mike-fx4nu I'm not well read into the systems that enable robot production. Same as EV? Lithium and Cobalt? Afghanistan and Congo?

  • @jeromebarry1741
    @jeromebarry1741 Рік тому

    Mr. Hardy, thank you. While Mr Zeihan repeats himself charmingly, it is the occasional interviewer who helps also with shining a light on particularly interesting areas of his chiaroscuro musings.

  • @randallsmith5631
    @randallsmith5631 Рік тому +2

    Strange how politicians & business leaders don't understand the change from post-World War Two to post-Cold War

  • @teresacantrell9468
    @teresacantrell9468 Рік тому +3

    The need for a certain amount of profit for the top, reinvestment and profit for the shareholders model continues to leave out so many that get removed, laid off or underpaid
    This sad model continues though.

  • @sedrickemery668
    @sedrickemery668 Рік тому +5

    Very thought provoking book. He definitely had a very different perspective than Ray Dalio in his new book. Mr Dalio makes the argument about China's rise and the US decline while this author gives very compelling arguments that that may not be the case.

    • @TokyoTaisu
      @TokyoTaisu Рік тому +1

      I know right. I love reading Ray Dalio as well. It's so interesting both Peter and Ray are so smart and intellectual and yet have such divergent thought on China.

    • @danli5771
      @danli5771 Рік тому +1

      Well, only one is being paid by CCP

  • @carolyngarman1422
    @carolyngarman1422 Рік тому

    Very informative.

  • @pmcllc1
    @pmcllc1 Рік тому

    awesome point of views!

  • @gericbabcock7145
    @gericbabcock7145 Рік тому +4

    Very interesting presentation, one of the most interesting I've heard. When Peter says China will be unable to run any economic system we know of, what does that mean on the ground? Massive population die-off until it's balanced? Would that event be enough to change the Chinese Gov., or would not even that be enough to change how the country is run?

    • @Ufthak
      @Ufthak Рік тому +2

      Even assuming Peter’s apocalyptic scenario plays out as he predicts, which is by no means certain or even likely, it probably won’t end up in hundreds of millions of casualties - humans are mobile after all and other countries won’t just stand by and do nothing.
      As for your question, the party may as well survive even the most nightmarish scenario, as it’s just too deeply entrenched in its power base in Chinese interior - if you’re baffled at the way rural Russians support the Ukraine war, you’ll be even more dumbfounded by the blind devotion rural Chinese have for their rulers.
      However, I don’t see coastal regions remaining under centralized control of the party in that scenario. They are educated and thus don’t really share the mindset of the people of the interior, are fickle and dependent on economic growth and as such may secede or become totally autonomous in all but name.
      Most likely though they’ll double down on fanaticism and militarization of the whole society just as they’ve done in 1960s and 70s. Culturally, the Chinese are not likely to revolt unless the economic realities are awful to the point of mass starvation, and even then it may not be enough - see the Great Leap Forward.

  • @dianedean4170
    @dianedean4170 Рік тому +6

    Peter, thank you so much for your continuity of care in your discussions of global dynamics. Thank you, Quentin, for your insightful questions and comments. My best wishes to you both for this discussion. Stay safe and be healthy. Diane Dean

  • @cliftontorrence839
    @cliftontorrence839 Рік тому

    So Good, Thanks too much, Top Drawer !

  • @SpaceExplorer
    @SpaceExplorer Рік тому

    thanks

  • @colinkelley6493
    @colinkelley6493 Рік тому +7

    I came to the same conclusions about six months ago. It is nice to hear some confirmation. But I do think I would add to Peter's vision of the future. I think our "re industrialization" of the US economy is going to usher in greater change than we experienced with the Industrial Revolution. The only solution (it may be chaotic) that is realistic and possible that will help us to deal with the demographic inverse age problem -- that would be new technology, AI and robotics.

    • @kerryaggen6346
      @kerryaggen6346 Рік тому

      NO... we do NOT need more AI and robotics... We need MORE JOBS FOR PEOPLE, NOT the opposite. Wake up.

    • @colinkelley6493
      @colinkelley6493 Рік тому

      @@kerryaggen6346 Dear John Henry: Think of the Tesla Bot as enabling you to start a business and it will help you get the job done better, cheaper, quicker -- think of it as a tool that will make YOU more productive (and profitable). There are two different world visions. 1) All robots work for Bill Gates and we are all out of work and are slaves. Or 2) we all buy our own robots and compete with each other and get more done for less costs while making more money -- and we do it better. Overall more stuff gets made and done. It is like, 3D printing undoes the centralization of the Industrial Revolution. After all, the national GDP mostly measures what we buy from each other. I am buying an Aptera car with a 1000 mile range, a solar roof for my house, and a powerwall. That gives me a lot more freedom. I can give the finger to the "big oil" companies. With robotics more people will be growing their own much healthier food -- the robots will take the drudgery out of it. I am going to chose door two.

    • @kerryaggen6346
      @kerryaggen6346 Рік тому

      @@colinkelley6493 My point is that unemployment is high now, and will continue to rise as the US$ finally dies, which will be soon. Plus, with millions of new illegal aliens in our country, they are taking the lower paying jobs, thus making even fewer jobs available for Citizens/Legal Residents, exacerbating unemployment issues. Therefore, it makes no sense to increase automation, as that decimates jobs even further. AND, increases the numbers of people who cannot afford to buy stuff, or even pay rent or feed themselves. Thus, it can be argued that FURTHER AUTOMATION (and illegal aliens) MAY ACTUALLY DECREASE GDP...
      BTW, GDP is just a number... There are many factors that play into it that cannot be easily measured or calculated. Thus, GDP is NOT the best "measure" of the "health" of a nation's economy, or the health of a nation. Another BTW - according to your emphasis re. GDP, your example results in LOWER GDP, as you're not continually purchasing hydrocarbons...

    • @colinkelley6493
      @colinkelley6493 Рік тому

      @@kerryaggen6346 OK. This may surprise you. I actually do not argue with ANY of your bullet points, this is what has been happening -- except I think they may be a little bit behind the times. I too am both saddened and disgusted with the homelessness in blue state big cities -- the crime, the drugs, the constant agitation to mob anger. But I think there is more going on overall. And I have a different take about our immediate future -- the next ten years. Recently, in the last quarter, there have been a lot fewer people falling into unemployment and lot more new hires. Employment is going up? Why? I think there is a trend and a reason behind it. The globalists who control the FED and banking system and much more -- have lost the war in Ukraine with Russia and they have lost their control over China. They are moving into a new kind of war -- an economic war. They are currently moving most of Germany's industry to the US. They are quietly moving the industry they shipped off to China twelve years ago back to Mexico and the US. Mexican laborers are more skilled than Chinese and they work for 1/3 the pay. It looks to me like the "powers that be" have come to the conclusion that to keep our "American Hegemony" going we have to out manufacture and out produce China -- we have to compete with China on a global scale exporting food and goods around the world. We are currently lowering the value of the dollar to help us become a much bigger manufacturing and exporting nation and to give us a positive balance of trade --. which will also help to pay off our national debt. I predict there will be no unemployment in less than a year in America, and no recession. Let the good times roll.

  • @jorgeespinoza3150
    @jorgeespinoza3150 Рік тому +4

    Why would he say we haven't had a president for 12 years?
    Seems now would be the time we truly don't have a functioning president.

  • @ivantsanov3650
    @ivantsanov3650 Рік тому

    Peter is OUTSTANDING

  • @timalexander4434
    @timalexander4434 Рік тому +1

    Who makes the machinery that produces the silicon chip and is the machinery of various refinement and manufacturers?

  • @susank4878
    @susank4878 Рік тому +20

    It might be hard to get incredible improvements in transportation costs by using water if the Mississippi becomes too dry to float a barge a lot of the time.

    • @brianboggs7455
      @brianboggs7455 Рік тому +9

      Occasionally we have droughts. Occasionally we have floods. Stick around, it'll get better.

    • @donstoneman451
      @donstoneman451 Рік тому

      @@brianboggs7455 Climate change is changing everything. Stick around MAYBE it will get better.

    • @adamking6005
      @adamking6005 Рік тому +1

      If, Ifs and Buts were fruits and nuts...
      Well you know, the thing...

    • @JizzBlaster
      @JizzBlaster Рік тому +2

      Lol I think you've been watching a little too much CNN. It's been only a month since your comment and now we have way too much water.

  • @nffremote
    @nffremote Рік тому +36

    What a fabulous interview. Congratulations to you both.

    • @dannytadashi4235
      @dannytadashi4235 Рік тому +1

      FABULOUS MY A$* HAHAHAHAHA LOL 😂😂👍👍👍

    • @xadion6866
      @xadion6866 Рік тому +1

      @@dannytadashi4235 just 2 men lost in life talking and providing negative solutions. the guy on the right is smiling while saying "hey things are getting worse"... "wow look how interesting it is that things go badly"... "smile"... sick reality we live in. very lost with no direction.

    • @dannytadashi4235
      @dannytadashi4235 Рік тому

      @@xadion6866 agreed 😃👍

    • @dannytadashi4235
      @dannytadashi4235 Рік тому

      @@xadion6866 agreed 😃👍

  • @keithkaosHarv
    @keithkaosHarv Рік тому

    Zeihan is a genius.

  • @williamnutile2929
    @williamnutile2929 Рік тому

    For the common wealth !

  • @javiertorres9114
    @javiertorres9114 Рік тому +7

    Despite the national debt, the dollar is basically the cleanest dirty shirt in the laundry basket.
    There just is no other options.

    • @kenlawson554
      @kenlawson554 Рік тому

      BRICS is busy creating other options.

    • @Mike-fx4nu
      @Mike-fx4nu Рік тому

      And starving is the best choice when stacked against cyanide.

  • @abdelra7man87
    @abdelra7man87 Рік тому +4

    I am listening to Peter for a while now, he tends to be unrealistically biased when it comes to China or Russia.

    • @abdelra7man87
      @abdelra7man87 Рік тому +3

      @David Moody i am not saying that China and Russia are flawless countries. All countries have flaws in their system. So I don't strongly disagree with you. My point is, Peter tend to ridicule and mostly underestimate, I believe intentionally, others. This make his views in my opinion less objective. What I am saying is, take his opinions with a grain of salt!

    • @tonytan6547
      @tonytan6547 Рік тому +1

      @David Moody keep dreaming

    • @Mike-fx4nu
      @Mike-fx4nu Рік тому

      His ideas are primarily based on demographics.

  • @tapex2
    @tapex2 Рік тому

    Yay Peter!

  • @tommiller3017
    @tommiller3017 Рік тому +1

    We don't get enough high-level assessments like this. Unfortunately, with the education levels, it seems most people can't understand it.

  • @jjohnston7837
    @jjohnston7837 Рік тому +8

    This was good. Dunning Kruger always gives the best interviews. 👍

  • @OddawallWood
    @OddawallWood Рік тому +4

    Globalization should mean things like Egyptians making bronze with tin from Cornwall, not Egyptians having a military alliance the Hittites.

    • @spacemonkey9000
      @spacemonkey9000 Рік тому

      Military more profitable and unfortunately those in power are corrupted with greed. :/

    • @Mike-fx4nu
      @Mike-fx4nu Рік тому

      Egyptians carry metal swords into battle, manufactured.

  • @johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555

    I agree it's not the high end fabs that need building out. It's the mid level technical fabs. The fabs that put out shit ton of chips but those chips aren't massively complicated. But then again they aren't big $$ products either.

  • @mphase7575
    @mphase7575 10 місяців тому

    I enjoyed his appearance on Joe rogan so much, I decided to search out more of this guy. Good stuff

  • @cmleibenguth
    @cmleibenguth Рік тому +8

    So long as the U.S. is distracted at home, I don't think there is going to be a soft landing
    In fact, I think the distractions at home are going to make the landing very hard

    • @listener523
      @listener523 Рік тому +4

      Home is the only matter we should be concerned with. We cannot solve this situation.
      The one asset that could put things together after the collapse is a strong and healthy US.

    • @Mike-fx4nu
      @Mike-fx4nu Рік тому

      Simply digitize civil wars.

    • @angusmullins511
      @angusmullins511 Рік тому

      We are so far from a strong and healthy USA however

  • @andrewbobb3170
    @andrewbobb3170 Рік тому +20

    For all his many great insights, Zeihan seems to have a blind spot: he is incapable of seeing people as individuals. They are components of systems and centers, driven by pressures and forces outside of their control. But in the real world, sometimes an individual just says, "no." Sometimes a whole lot of individuals, without coaxing or coordination, say, "no." And that can change everything.

    • @tomburroughes9834
      @tomburroughes9834 Рік тому +1

      As an addition to @Andrew Bobb's point, there is very little place for philosophy and ideas in his worldview, although maybe he ought to be asked this by interviewers.

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Рік тому

      He sees some Americans as individuals, and most people behaving in blocs, because that’s reality. The US is a fairytale compared to the rest of the world. If someone has a solidified American experience into their adulthood, it’s extremely difficult to even begin to understand the world, let alone the United States itself.

    • @DJK-cq2uy
      @DJK-cq2uy Рік тому

      Wow. Thsnks

    • @mangonut
      @mangonut Рік тому

      For the most part people behave predictably. That’s what Zeihan is tapping into.

    • @DryFieri
      @DryFieri Рік тому +1

      @@mangonut exactly, you can’t predict what any one person will do in certain circumstances, but you can pretty reliably predict what large numbers of people will do in those circumstances

  • @barbarafrost1364
    @barbarafrost1364 Рік тому +2

    Every high school student should be made to read his book or attend several lectures so they can see for themselves the world as it will soon become.

  • @alfredotto7525
    @alfredotto7525 Рік тому +2

    I would be interested to hear if someone has a countering point of view.

  • @Makitafan
    @Makitafan Рік тому +8

    Every time Peter speaks he always points out how well the USA is positioned for the future, economically, demographically, etc.

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 Рік тому +10

      Have to keep in mind it's also usually comparatively to the rest of the world. The US is still I'm sure in for some amount of pain and certainly turmoil, but is positioned to do alot better than everyone else.

    • @obtuseangler768
      @obtuseangler768 Рік тому +6

      @@chickenfishhybrid44 yes, both the US and Canada are energy and food secure countries. We have a much better chance of survival.
      He's also a proud American.

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 Рік тому +2

      @@obtuseangler768 indeed.

    • @ZFPAkula
      @ZFPAkula Рік тому +1

      It's not just the USA, but North America in general. The rest of the world can rip its guts out in the chaos of the next 20 years, but North America will be just fine.

    • @kevinkyzer6149
      @kevinkyzer6149 Рік тому +1

      @@obtuseangler768 This, plus Mexico, and probably plus much of Latin and South American because of their proximity to the US and Canada. Look forward to a very strong trade alliances between these countries in the nearish future.

  • @MrHARRYGOODNIGHT
    @MrHARRYGOODNIGHT Рік тому

    Superb

  • @seamuscharles9028
    @seamuscharles9028 Рік тому +2

    Fabulous Comedy hope there is a sequel

    • @AndrewCharnley
      @AndrewCharnley Рік тому +3

      Exactly and what is worrisome is the people who will, with little resistance, lap it up as my cat does with her milk bowel...

    • @heleneelong3679
      @heleneelong3679 Рік тому

      👏

  • @PierceSexingtonIV
    @PierceSexingtonIV Рік тому +25

    I was laughing out loud at how "Europeans are innovative about restricting migration". We are in the middle of the largest single spike of external migration into Europe in recorded history. Does Peter not read the papers?

    • @xrxs1020
      @xrxs1020 Рік тому +7

      Thanks for noticing. As a denizen of comment sections, I notice most comments end up fawning over the program. I appreciate kindness, but notice there's not much critical thinking.

    • @AsianDudeX01
      @AsianDudeX01 Рік тому +2

      Refugee flows and by-the-book immigration are different things. For someone from say a country like Mexico to be able to immigrate to Germany is very difficult.

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Рік тому +7

      I challenge you too look at overall immigration rates and rates into specific areas, relative to other regions. When he makes comments like that, it’s based on data analyses and extensive study of the subject matter with people throughout Europe. Headlines are often at odds with reality or trends, and like to cherry-pick alarmist tones for ad revenue.

    • @ianshaver8954
      @ianshaver8954 Рік тому +3

      No, he’s right. It is because of the vast numbers of migrants moving into Europe that Europe is getting innovative about restricting migration.

    • @bluewaters3100
      @bluewaters3100 Рік тому

      @@AsianDudeX01 He really bypassed discussing what will happen now that we have a wide open southern U.S. border that allows terrorists, drugs, thieves, and totally broke people unvetted into the U.S. It is rediculous that he did not eleborate on what it will do in the immediate future to our economy. Is this Joe Biden's America?? Remember it was Democrats who fought for slavery back in the civil war and after.

  • @brucerobtoy2888
    @brucerobtoy2888 Рік тому +5

    To Peter all I have to say is FJB !

  • @mcollins630
    @mcollins630 Рік тому +2

    Maybe businesses could invest their record profits into manufacturing instead of stock buybacks?
    Maybe workers could get higher wages and first world healrhcare.

  • @theeffectiveprogressive
    @theeffectiveprogressive Рік тому

    Right on with First past the post which creates the two party system.

  • @whatacrazyride1658
    @whatacrazyride1658 Рік тому +13

    Well, In my mind, the jury has been out regarding Peter’s presentations that I have watched over the last year. Is he someone who actually is what he is made out to be, a prognosticator of the near and medium term who brings in demographics, industry, energy, and geopolitical insights to tell a compelling tale? The very fact that he is doing this on this UA-cam Channel, tips the balance for me to be skeptical of his predictions. I have never seen a particularly believable guest on this channel. His tendency to present his predictions as if the were a metaphysical certitude to occur is where my skepticism in Peter was seeded, but it is upsetting to no longer feel that he is a good source for info, because his schtick and his charisma is a hard pair to match for sheer entertaining world events.

    • @johnon1785
      @johnon1785 Рік тому +1

      Troll much ?

    • @Texas75023
      @Texas75023 Рік тому

      Well said, and I agree with much of it. I think he does miss the diversity of human response to changing pressures. But then that is a problem with all simulations or speculations about the future. The more one wishes to model a system, the finer the granularity must be. And I don't think he is even modelling his predictions. I think he is generalizing his observations into behaviors that seem obvious to him.
      For example, while he is predicting the death of globalization, he completely ignore the rise of globalist organizations, such as the WEF that is training state leaders to behave in non local manners. That alone is a wild card influencing nation state behavior in a non-democratic way, and with not accountability or responsibility. We have yet to see the damage the WEF, under the auspices of a new climate religion to save the planet, will cause while claiming to save the planet . . . No one is asking "For Whom?"

    • @JizzBlaster
      @JizzBlaster Рік тому

      Couldn't have said it better myself. I hope he is correct as he is incredibly entertaining to watch, but his certainty is unsettling.

    • @mdgeroy
      @mdgeroy Рік тому +1

      He tipped his hand when he claimed Biden is a good president. Ha ha ha .

    • @Texas75023
      @Texas75023 Рік тому +1

      @@mdgeroy Yeah. That goes a *LONG LONG* way to destroy he credibility in general . . .

  • @higginswallop5009
    @higginswallop5009 Рік тому +3

    The guy from Google added in the bit about problematic future for "the unvaccinated" WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.

  • @rijs4303
    @rijs4303 Рік тому

    Shortsightedness is underestimated

  • @cruisesailing
    @cruisesailing Рік тому

    I don't remember which of our Generals was at a military equipment show but, when he was asked by one of his Chinese counterparts 'What type of military would he most want to battle with?' The general basically described the Chinese military, saying. '...a military that has practiced war games for years but, has no actual battlefield experience.' The Chinese soldier cowered away

  • @Anubis-hm7ro
    @Anubis-hm7ro Рік тому +4

    Wow. Thank you

  • @RichardFarmbrough
    @RichardFarmbrough Рік тому +4

    There are plenty of sunny and windy places in Europe.

    • @_morgoth_
      @_morgoth_ Рік тому

      Do you know what latitude is and it's effect of the strength of sunlight is in a given area?

    • @RichardFarmbrough
      @RichardFarmbrough Рік тому +1

      @@_morgoth_ Yes indeed, and San Francisco is the same latitude as southern Spain, not northern Norway. So while a lot of Europe receives less insolation than the lower 48, there are, as I said, plenty of sunny places. Even in the UK, with latitudes corresponding to parts of Canada, solar power is still cheaper than fossil fuel. EU installed solar power is about twice that of the US.
      Similarly Europe's wind power base is 237 GW, compared with 133 GW for the US. (2021 figures.) There are plenty of windy places in Europe too.

  • @hififlipper
    @hififlipper Рік тому

    loved how he pronounced "Austria". At least Germany has harbours.

  • @wch7251
    @wch7251 Рік тому +1

    I can tell you that most major US REITs have moved to industrial

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance Рік тому +3

    Who provoked the potential collapse of the German industrial model? What's the difference between being reliant on Russian gas or being reliant on US expensive LNG... The US can't compete on price so they blow-up NordStream2?