So with this tournament we have categorically, statistically and indisputably proven that Jet Synchron is the most broken card ever and should be move from banned to -1
Synchron clearly showed that is is by far the best deck with it's signature ability to make your opponent brick 6/8 times and drawing droll almost every time going second.
holy so it's not just me, that was some of the most BULLSHIT pharaoh power tournament cause of the shit amount of bad luck and brick, opponent activated dark dealings? draw nibiru. Your opponent only has one starter? Draw 3 droll and lock. Can't win going second? Just pray that your opponent draw full dark in a 2 attribute deck. I do not have words to this tournament
@@danielhertz1984 TBH running dark world dealings in an FTK deck seems like asking for trouble. And chaos' main issue with staying/becoming meta IS this, there is no good ratio that prevents brick hands where its a single attribute. Still some serious plot armor BS though
@@danielhertz1984 at the end of the day it's a card game, sometimes you're just lucky or unlucky. I do agree that probably making the tournament 32 players would make it much harder to sack your way into a win, but still this was entertaining and the synchron player played really good
the sheer sequence of watching "why are you playing zefraath in lunalights?" "it's a small world bridge" to actually pend summoning zefranui in lunas to then their foe following up with INVOCATION FOR DPE is honestly the most insane sequence of plays i've ever seen two duelists make, and that's not even going into half of the other shit from this tournament. Everyone in this is a mad genius and I salute them
The CEO of Konami literally wakes up sweating every night after a recurring nightmare: A glassed twink cutting the banlist in half, using his pronounced muscles, wearing a Hawaiian tank top.
I was the Zefra player in round 1, this was an awesome tournament and I loved being a part of it. Even if I bricked and misplayed, lol. Thank you for having me!
SPOILERS: Who would win: some of the biggest titans in YGO's history, including Grass, Master Peace, and Metamorphosis, that would inevitably break the format irrevocably and ruin the game once and for all? ...or one Jet boi? REV IT UP BAYBEEEEEE Thanks for hosting this tournament, was the most fun one yet! Shoutouts to the other competitors for piloting really sick lists, and to Keira in particular with her excellent display of the (basically currently legal) Synchron list. Glad to have at least lost to the tournament winner! (Shameless plug: if you'd like to see more from the Lunalight player's perspective, I uploaded a very detailed video earlier today, including a tournament report and a serious discussion on whether Tiger can make a return)
This was a really fun tournament, honestly it has me considering picking up Synchron despite the lack of Jet being legal, but after looking up o37wolf's channel, it seems really dope even without out. HOWEVER I really would love if the next tournament would be so that people didn't know other people's decklists. I dunno how to figure that out, other than maybe choosing the decks off-stream and having people personally send decklists via DMs. Fantastic stuff though, always love these.
From playing a stardust synchron and then actual synchron deck on edopro synchron has a lot of potential but can have issues with just being incredibly difficult to play. It might be a bit bricky but if there was a jet synchron like card that locked you into synchros and was once per duel it would still be great
Mav was the anime villain locking down every deck by knowing the decklists in advance and Keira was the protag beating him with the rogue deck in the finals
I've always thought 16 decks are not nearly enough for a tournament like this. 32 might be too much for a stream or a video, but would show to a better extent the potential impact of the unbanned cards, especially bc there'd be way more variety.
@@stardust8797 then you’d have to have by-rounds which means you’d have to determine seeding somehow and it starts to get confusing. It’s either 16 or 32 decks unfortunately, there’s no middle ground without having a more advanced tournament structure.
It genuinely surprised me how many people just did not know about Invocation being able to summon fusions outside of invoked (albeit only using the hand)
@@darununya7048 one of the reasons early Invoked Shaddoll (right before the Shaddoll structure deck) was playing triple Invocation was as another Fusion Spell to get into Doll combos earlier if you didn't open any Invoked combo pieces because it could fusion summon Dolls if using material from hand.
"To prove a point to konami *and God* ". Well, I'm not sure about that last part, because, after watching this live, I can only tell He can't hear you, considering where you are headed to.
yo, Been disassociating, really needed an hour or longer video to just listen to and pull me away from myself. You uploaded this right when I needed it. Thank you.
I for once think that Moron Banlist could be a live tournament with hundreds of attendants to have MBT and friends comment the most interesting matches and then stream the top 16. ...it's a logistics and money nightmare, so it's never going to happen, but it would be based.
@@kotkafer2292 Tuning and the new searcher (I think it's called Ready! Set! Duel!) means that even at 1 Jet can basically be played at 4-7 copies per deck. You can also use One for One or Foolish Burial if the situation calls for it. Jet is crazy.
@@kotkafer2292 I remember Dark Synchro in 2016 I think playing Jet Synchron as a combo enabler, sending it with Accel Synchron to make Accel a level 4 to go into Denglong with any Level 1 Non-Tuner.
This was really fun to watch and I'm glad my two favourite decks out of the bunch managed to make it to finals. I think a big reason synchrons took the crown was because they are probably the most consistent deck out of the bunch that can play through a variety of handtraps without running out of steam and the pilot is likely quite experienced with the deck.
33:01 as i've recently discovered, redoer is one of the only xyz monsters that detatches at _resolution_ instead of as a cost, meaning it does actually trigger lunalight effects
Your opponent activate dark dealing? Draw nibiru. Only have one starter and no extender in hand? Draw 3 droll. Your deck can't win going second? Draw droll or make your opponent draw full dark with the power of friendship in deck of two attributes. Deck can't acess floodgate easily? Draw it everytime while also knowing information from the opponent's deck. Seriously so many cool decks and none could stand a chance against the mighty god emperor Edo pro shuffler
The two most standout cards of the tournament imo had to be Jet Synchron ass just a fantastic extender. And the other being Droll which was game determinative.
The dragon link deck looked super cool but it sucks that it did so well because the player knew what is opponents were playing. A blind archnemesis wouldn't have been nearly as effective.
@@Altergeist saying it depends on the format doesn't mean anything. The format for this tournament was everyone playing different decks. Most decks could do well if you arbitrarily place it in preferential circumstances.
Been playing it in Dino combo with the flag because the flag can shuffle back your misc and search the archnemesis, then if you are in game 2 or 3 the Dino link will help you with any type, it won me a game against DL in one format by calling dragon going 2nd
Pot of greed isn't broken, the reason it's banned is that it would be played in every single deck due to being an easy generic way of forming card advantage. Konami since the dawn of the limited (and then later on ban list) has always slapped cards that are universally good.
This was insane. I barely even play yugioh yet i just spent over an hour watching these duels while MBT announced play by play like a sports match. Awesome tourney and great video. Lol yugioh
Ok so, I am here to explain my horrible misplay game 1. The original plan of action was to search punishment off ecclesia and i break some of emanon's board. HOWEVER, I went oh shit if i dont use ecclesia i can make verte and break the entire board easy. I forgot i used nadhir. And um game 3 i didnt read lunaligh tiger but that game was a lost cause cuz i had no way to get rid of ariel in my hand.
The Zefraath in Lunalights actually did a completely different line than I was expecting. There were some OCG lunalight lists that popped up a couple years ago that used Gallant Granite to get to Zefraath, then used Zefraath to add Shaddoll Zefranaga to the extra deck, giving a 1-5 scale for a pendulum summon of all the random lunalights still in hand as well as the Zefranaga, which would bounce tiger again for yet another extra use.
Honestly I just want to see the despair in twitch chat when dragon ruler link is shown as a thought experiment and proceeds to end on like, double baronne de fleur, borreload savage dragon, and god knows what else
I think we need to try this on a grander tournament scale. These videos are very fun and I do see the vision, but I think we need to get a full on actual tournament under the MBT banlist to see some fuller implications.
that was the hypest iteration of dragon link I have ever seen! and all of that without agarpain and elpy! and that synchron build was also really cool and skillful. this was awesome to watch
As a Magic the gathering player , who played Yu-Gi-Oh in High school very casualy. this looks like ais playing by the speed and complexity of the lines
@@AltergeistThey aren't interchangable. Protos is a Wyrm, so you can't search it with Melody like Eschatos, and Level 10, which means Chaos Space isn't useful with it either. If you sub out Eschatos for Protos, you're just adding a card that you won't access in 99% of your games, and since you need to banish 3 different Attributes for it, you're forced into commiting to an Extra Deck play or hoping you've used a handtrap before it, since you're playing almost exclusively Light and Dark monsters.
I love these videos. This format is awesome. If you want to do another one where calamities is legal I'd love to play. Which will never happen but hey I'm gonna happily watch all of your future vids like this. MBT your my favorite UA-camr at the moment.
Honestly, while I think grass is an extremely powerful card, I think it is 1 of the cards on the list that could be experimented with. It's a card that you really have to build a deck around. While the Dragon deck was strong, it didn't really need grass all that much. I'm not saying Grass should come back, but it could be interesting if it did. Also Harp to 1.
@Skullo Dream I kinda think grass is that the type of card that should either be at zero or three. Building a deck around a one of doesn't really work that well unless the card is extremely searchable. Plus the difference between 1 and 3 is negligible. All that creates are consistency issues. And if grass was legal, everyone would know that if someone is playing a 60-card deck, hold the ash for the grass. I'd be curious to see a tournament where the only change would be grass to three.
@@astercat49 I would find it incredibly funny if that happened as I played Generaider at 60 cards for a while to reduce my risk of drawing the bosses and playing more generic interruptions and ways to get to my engine. If they held the Ash for the Grass I wouldn't play, I'd be able to Loptr without ever being threatened by the Ash.
@@michaelgrey1503 or end on the Generaiders xyz and another rank 9 (probably the negate since VFD is banned) and a hand loop from harr, if you open loptr monstrosity in 60 cards lol
I haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh since the Zexal era and... uh... I don't know how I got here. I didn't even understand the game *then* well enough to win in casual games... I don't know what's happening. Mom, come pick me up, I'm scared.
You know, the more I watch these tournaments, the less interesting they get. For so many cards off the banlist you'd think that more decks would experiment, but every successive tournament has had less and less alteration to both the meta decks and the rouge strategies. Grass Roots Dragon Link was pretty cool, but outside of that, everything else was pretty standard with very few alterations.
That's the issue with doing these as small tourneys with short notice, I think. If they were able to test for like two weeks or so, then do a prelim tourney to determine contestants and decks, I think it would be more interesting. But then it would be a huge undertaking every banlist season and I doubt there's time in Joseph's schedule for that.
@@NJoCaulfield Issue is that MBT is basically cursed so that the official banlist comes out almost instantly after he does these toruneys. So to keep the gimmick accurate, he needs to have them done ASAP. Although with the Masochist version I think he could afford to allow more time now
To be fair that is kind of the point. The whole idea behind the tournament is that the ban list has a lot of bloat on it. If anything I think this makes a pretty good case that MBT is onto something.
@@AzureAetherXx Honestly, that's the reason why I'm not a big fan of MBT. A tournament like this should encourage creativity not flaunt the power of the status quo
@@munchrai6396 If cards ever came off the ban list on this level, this is exactly what would happen. The creativity you're asking for wouldn't happen because most Yu-Gi-Oh archetypes already have analogue cards similar to most of the generic cards that are banned. There are very few actual cards that would do anything to the format. And that's because these are all just tried and true strategies. Maybe you'd get some rogue stuff, but in a tournament consisting of a thousand players, you'd probably see very little rogue at the top. That's just statistics. That's also just meta, it would eventually just settle.
God the amount of plays in this tourny that just had me being like "wait what? Holy shit you can do that?!" Was incredible. These are all mad geniuses and to you I salute. And to the synchron player: hope that decklist isn't a NFT cause I'm screenshotting it since it looks awesome as heck
You know there's a lot of interesting discussions about the format of Yugituber videos where small scale tournaments are used to prove points in all ignorance of the law of large numbers. However, who the fuck cares, Synchron best deck it is the actual best timeline let's unban more shit while we're at it that deck is literally invincible.
Honestly, probably what Konami should do is have a second format where it starts with every card unbanned. And let it organically figure itself out. Give it like four months for the meta to settle, and you'd figure out what should remain banned. Then every two years, do it again. Unban everything and watch the meta settle.
Game 1 round 1 he literally blind calls dinosaur because he has knowledge of his opponent's deck. Very disappointing way to lose from an otherwise broken hand in a powerful deck.
@@EpicKingofFail i mean tbf he couldve guessed it decently based on his opponent. with eschatos you dont really need a ton of knowledge of your opponents deck to make the right call so even in a normal tournament setting he wouldnt be that much worse off, especially later in the tournament when your more likely to have an idea what ppl are playing based on knowing the player, the meta, or just hearing/seeing things during the tournament
We don't deserve content of this sheer entertainment value. Haven't played real yugioh in years, but just watching these over-meta monstrosities duking eachother out of a bracket is peak content man. Absolute props to your commentatorship, and you did it all live! I will never unsubscribe from this channel as long as I live 💖
for a lot of the decks that have either multiple attributes or multiple types or involve banishing Golden Nova has been recommending if you want the deck it's best chance at semi-rogue playability running the archnemesis or a nemesis package is probably a good choice since they are kind of game enders.
I haven't actually watched the video yet but judging from the title: I have no idea how MBT is surprised that unbanning more tham half the list actually changes the game
The banlist is not about balancing the game, it's about making money. - Banning cards to make the current top decks less relevant than whatever new stuff is coming out, to entice people to buy the new stuff - Unbanning old cards that are about to be reprinted, so that people will buy the reprint sets - Avoiding an abysmally unfun format (like the Wind-up / Inzektor / Dino-Rabbit format) to keep the game alive
There is zero way you can say that point 3 is not also about balancing the game. An illusion of a somewhat balanced game makes more money than a game even babies can see is all about sacking and stacking.
That is kind of a reductive way of thinking. Remember how long sky strikers was meta and everyone hated it? Konami wants to make money but honestly the fan base wants old decks to be cycled out for new shit. Just look at the fan base when a format goes on a little to long
Also unbanning old cards after they are below rogue tier power level is a good enough incentive sometimes to bring people back in the game, get some new cards for their old deck or even invest in something new because they can't really compete with the new shit
@@michaelgrey1503 but my striker comparison is apt. People wanted engage dead, and they got that. The result is striker basically fell from competitive play for a pretty long time and still is only marginally rogue. Same thing happened to VW with King
So your channel just got randomly suggest to me. Your commentary is super good. Even with the speed I can keep up with what you're announcing as your have very good enunciation. Please, take my like.
So with this tournament we have categorically, statistically and indisputably proven that Jet Synchron is the most broken card ever and should be move from banned to -1
How the fuck did you watch the whole vid in 13 min?
@@averageguy7620 Caught the stream
Just have to burn a copy every duel.
So I have to bring a guy with me to every tournament who can verify undeniably that I am 100% not running a copy of Jet Synchron?
-1 means that if you have one anywhere in your collection, you are obliged to sell it on Amazon.
Synchron clearly showed that is is by far the best deck with it's signature ability to make your opponent brick 6/8 times and drawing droll almost every time going second.
that's protag energy bby
holy so it's not just me, that was some of the most BULLSHIT pharaoh power tournament cause of the shit amount of bad luck and brick, opponent activated dark dealings? draw nibiru. Your opponent only has one starter? Draw 3 droll and lock. Can't win going second? Just pray that your opponent draw full dark in a 2 attribute deck. I do not have words to this tournament
I mean, get fucked? Shit happens in card games lmao
@@danielhertz1984 TBH running dark world dealings in an FTK deck seems like asking for trouble.
And chaos' main issue with staying/becoming meta IS this, there is no good ratio that prevents brick hands where its a single attribute.
Still some serious plot armor BS though
@@danielhertz1984 at the end of the day it's a card game, sometimes you're just lucky or unlucky.
I do agree that probably making the tournament 32 players would make it much harder to sack your way into a win, but still this was entertaining and the synchron player played really good
The dark world dealings into nibiru was the saddest thing I've ever seen
yeah. True heartbreak.
Been there buddy, used Gossip Shadow to block a monster effect, only to give them Forbidden Dropplet.
Yup, the moment I activated Dealings I had a "what if they draw into a handtrap" moment and sure enough it was the most killer one lol.
From my POV it was the funniest
Which programme are they using?
Oh shit that's me!
GGs everyone this was super fun. Thanks for all the love after the win 💜 REV IT UP!!
:3
REV IT UP!
REV IT UP!!!!
GOING FAST MAKES ME FEEL ALIVE! MY HEARTBEAT...IN HYPERDRIVE!
@@fatestarne2694 :3
the sheer sequence of watching "why are you playing zefraath in lunalights?" "it's a small world bridge" to actually pend summoning zefranui in lunas to then their foe following up with INVOCATION FOR DPE is honestly the most insane sequence of plays i've ever seen two duelists make, and that's not even going into half of the other shit from this tournament. Everyone in this is a mad genius and I salute them
Invocation for DPE was my favorite moment! That was so hype.
Around what time was that match?
Time of summon is 38:00
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The CEO of Konami literally wakes up sweating every night after a recurring nightmare: A glassed twink cutting the banlist in half, using his pronounced muscles, wearing a Hawaiian tank top.
Yes, Cimo
Of course his muscles have blue hair and pronouns
Don’t forget his very pichable waist
The fact that the swordsoul player had to stare down the other Archnemisis is the best feeling in the world
>:(
Wyrm best deck
It was so deserved, it was perfect
Chxiao negate protos call Light and he would have won...
@@MrSpako13 that player had multiple lines to victory and missed all of them
@@EpicKingofFail YEP thats why its deserved KEKW
Seeing synchrons win is enough to make a 5D's fan cry, and that's ok.
Keep on driving Keira, keep on driving.
o7
@@gavinschaber3578 Yessir
I was the Zefra player in round 1, this was an awesome tournament and I loved being a part of it. Even if I bricked and misplayed, lol. Thank you for having me!
Thanks for representing Denglong.
Your deck lost to basicly todays meta pendulum deck (they didn’t really use amything banned) so we have proven denglong should be unbanned.
Choked
Hope u being in the next one mbt announcement
SPOILERS:
Who would win: some of the biggest titans in YGO's history, including Grass, Master Peace, and Metamorphosis, that would inevitably break the format irrevocably and ruin the game once and for all?
...or one Jet boi?
REV IT UP BAYBEEEEEE
Thanks for hosting this tournament, was the most fun one yet! Shoutouts to the other competitors for piloting really sick lists, and to Keira in particular with her excellent display of the (basically currently legal) Synchron list. Glad to have at least lost to the tournament winner!
(Shameless plug: if you'd like to see more from the Lunalight player's perspective, I uploaded a very detailed video earlier today, including a tournament report and a serious discussion on whether Tiger can make a return)
spoilers:
WHITE
Can't wait to watch your breakdowns. GGs
@@Ahamkeira GG's!
A funny thing about this is that Keira has never watched 5D's and was utterly confused at the Clear Mind spam in chat
lmao true
@@Ahamkeira why you no watch 5ds
DELTA ACCEL SYNCHRO
This was a really fun tournament, honestly it has me considering picking up Synchron despite the lack of Jet being legal, but after looking up o37wolf's channel, it seems really dope even without out.
HOWEVER
I really would love if the next tournament would be so that people didn't know other people's decklists. I dunno how to figure that out, other than maybe choosing the decks off-stream and having people personally send decklists via DMs. Fantastic stuff though, always love these.
From playing a stardust synchron and then actual synchron deck on edopro synchron has a lot of potential but can have issues with just being incredibly difficult to play. It might be a bit bricky but if there was a jet synchron like card that locked you into synchros and was once per duel it would still be great
Yeah I was a little sad when they "blind" called Dino in game 1 with eschatos, seemed a little cheesy to me.
Mav was the anime villain locking down every deck by knowing the decklists in advance and Keira was the protag beating him with the rogue deck in the finals
@@silfarion10 I mean to be fair what other deck would Don be playing
He said the thing
Ah yes, bring back some of the most ignorant cards in the game so synchron can be the best deck
Ah yes
yes.
it's very based
synchron is just based
Omar
Yusei best protag, he deserves it
Average yugioh player: "Yeah, but what do you do when you draw your DPE bricks?"
Invoked player: "?????"
I find that a hilarious turn of events
I've always thought 16 decks are not nearly enough for a tournament like this. 32 might be too much for a stream or a video, but would show to a better extent the potential impact of the unbanned cards, especially bc there'd be way more variety.
24 decks?
@@stardust8797 then you’d have to have by-rounds which means you’d have to determine seeding somehow and it starts to get confusing. It’s either 16 or 32 decks unfortunately, there’s no middle ground without having a more advanced tournament structure.
True
@@stardust8797 Unfortunately, what VIII AXEL VIII said.
@@kammerer396
Crap
No one not a single soul playing this banlist … Keira “This is the power I have obtained … CLEAR MIND!!!”
Funny that you mentioned that, Keira didn't Accel Synchro even once.
Probably needed the clear mind to prevent mental overload lol
Someone play masted duel here?
You mean "Brick mind"
@@yubelious5584 They played Accel Synchron, close enough
It genuinely surprised me how many people just did not know about Invocation being able to summon fusions outside of invoked (albeit only using the hand)
It's the first line of text on the card. "fusion summon 1 monster using materials from your hand"
@@EpicKingofFail I guess everyone just assumed that it would be restricted to its archetype fusions and only pay attention to the recycling effect lol
Yugioh players and not reading, name a more iconic duo.
I'm one of those people xD
@@darununya7048 one of the reasons early Invoked Shaddoll (right before the Shaddoll structure deck) was playing triple Invocation was as another Fusion Spell to get into Doll combos earlier if you didn't open any Invoked combo pieces because it could fusion summon Dolls if using material from hand.
Really, the only thing I learned from this video was that in a hyper-diverse format, the deck that loses is the one that bricks the hardest.
Sir Emanon's r1 match is simultaneously the best and worst match of yugioh i've ever seen, I love it
"To prove a point to konami *and God* ". Well, I'm not sure about that last part, because, after watching this live, I can only tell He can't hear you, considering where you are headed to.
yo, Been disassociating, really needed an hour or longer video to just listen to and pull me away from myself. You uploaded this right when I needed it. Thank you.
I for once think that Moron Banlist could be a live tournament with hundreds of attendants to have MBT and friends comment the most interesting matches and then stream the top 16.
...it's a logistics and money nightmare, so it's never going to happen, but it would be based.
Jet Synchron really is the greatest generic extender this game has ever seen huh
Not even close lmao if halq didnt exist youd need to hard draw it for Mill it
@@kotkafer2292 or search with tuning
even if it locked you into synchros for the entire term it would still be one of if not the best extender in the game.
@@kotkafer2292 Tuning and the new searcher (I think it's called Ready! Set! Duel!) means that even at 1 Jet can basically be played at 4-7 copies per deck. You can also use One for One or Foolish Burial if the situation calls for it.
Jet is crazy.
@@kotkafer2292 I remember Dark Synchro in 2016 I think playing Jet Synchron as a combo enabler, sending it with Accel Synchron to make Accel a level 4 to go into Denglong with any Level 1 Non-Tuner.
This tournament proved how strong/weak droll is and how much I enjoy MBT's reaction to literally anything.
This was really fun to watch and I'm glad my two favourite decks out of the bunch managed to make it to finals. I think a big reason synchrons took the crown was because they are probably the most consistent deck out of the bunch that can play through a variety of handtraps without running out of steam and the pilot is likely quite experienced with the deck.
How do you go trough a negation of junk speeder?
As someone who just purchased the entire synchron deck in paper last week, this result is pleasing
33:01 as i've recently discovered, redoer is one of the only xyz monsters that detatches at _resolution_ instead of as a cost, meaning it does actually trigger lunalight effects
GOING FAST MAKES ME FEEL ALIVE - hyper librarian is just white RML and seeing it resolve literally 15 times has put the fear of god in me
I've never thought I'll see the day were a Yu-Gi-Oh match would be narrated like a Football (Soccer) match, but here we are and I LOVE IT.
Have you never watched a ycs?
Your opponent activate dark dealing? Draw nibiru. Only have one starter and no extender in hand? Draw 3 droll. Your deck can't win going second? Draw droll or make your opponent draw full dark with the power of friendship in deck of two attributes. Deck can't acess floodgate easily? Draw it everytime while also knowing information from the opponent's deck. Seriously so many cool decks and none could stand a chance against the mighty god emperor Edo pro shuffler
That first burn list is based though. No mine, no cell phones, just duelists living in the moment
god this was such a rollercoaster to watch live
looking forward to the next one!
I feel like pre knowledge of eschatos won a lot of the dragons games and not the deck itself.
What I learned from this one is that our format would actually be substantially more fun and interesting with all these cards off.
🤷 So Traditional, then.
@@iBloodxHunter This format is not even close to the degeneracy of traditional format.
@@iBloodxHunter half ≠ all lmao
@@jadegrace1312 hehe fine.
Some of that shit needs to stay there
Sad we couldn’t see a Spellbook deck add 5 summon jowgen with Judgment and still lose
The two most standout cards of the tournament imo had to be Jet Synchron ass just a fantastic extender. And the other being Droll which was game determinative.
I know nothing about Yugioh and clicked this purely based off the title, and watched the whole thing. Good video. Great title.
The dragon link deck looked super cool but it sucks that it did so well because the player knew what is opponents were playing. A blind archnemesis wouldn't have been nearly as effective.
Yes and no I think depending on the format u go Protos and then the other one in game 2/3
@@Altergeist saying it depends on the format doesn't mean anything. The format for this tournament was everyone playing different decks. Most decks could do well if you arbitrarily place it in preferential circumstances.
It wouldn't have changed much IMO. Maybe game 1 would have gone Dino's way, but 2 and 3 are won by D-Link easy
The tri list was really sub optimal and the player got punished for it. Overral the archnemesis for types is fucking crazy good lord
Been playing it in Dino combo with the flag because the flag can shuffle back your misc and search the archnemesis, then if you are in game 2 or 3 the Dino link will help you with any type, it won me a game against DL in one format by calling dragon going 2nd
Note to self: jet synchron is more broken than pot of greed
Pot of greed isn't broken, the reason it's banned is that it would be played in every single deck due to being an easy generic way of forming card advantage. Konami since the dawn of the limited (and then later on ban list) has always slapped cards that are universally good.
@@trappyboi8678 I comment this as a joke...
@@shokudiablo6716 it is worth saying though as a lot of people don't seem to understand why Pot of Greed is banned.
@@trappyboi8678 nice joke
@@trappyboi8678Funny man😂😂
i enjoy the chaos MBT brings in every video. looking forward to my hour long brain turn off session
That thumbnail genuinely made me laugh for a solid 5 minutes. Every yugituber had their ups and downs but MBT is absolute peak Yugioh comedy
Keira: You fool! **Masaaki Endoh "Clear Mind"** I HAVE THE POWER OF OUR BOUNDS!!! OUR BOUNDS OF SYNCHRO SHOKAN!!!
So what we learned is Jet Synchron broken and SYNCHRON BEST DECK LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Love the fact that Grass resolved maybe like once and the deck still made it as far as it did
MBT apologizing non-stop to the Lunalight player had me in stitches lmao
Those hands were as bricky as I was hard watching Synchron and Pendulums in finals
Can't wait for snow and masterplan to come back next banlist
1:18:36, that zoom in got me. that is the look of a man who had full confidence, and proved he was right
With grass back and reasoning to 3 i'm kinda sad the tournament didn't have an infernoid deck. But mav grass dragons was everything i needed.
The thing is, everyone was having fun watching this. It was damn fun. You need to do more of these. :D
This was insane. I barely even play yugioh yet i just spent over an hour watching these duels while MBT announced play by play like a sports match. Awesome tourney and great video. Lol yugioh
6:45
"You can see that we've got a Dang Long in here with a sizeable package"
Ok so, I am here to explain my horrible misplay game 1. The original plan of action was to search punishment off ecclesia and i break some of emanon's board. HOWEVER, I went oh shit if i dont use ecclesia i can make verte and break the entire board easy. I forgot i used nadhir. And um game 3 i didnt read lunaligh tiger but that game was a lost cause cuz i had no way to get rid of ariel in my hand.
The Zefraath in Lunalights actually did a completely different line than I was expecting. There were some OCG lunalight lists that popped up a couple years ago that used Gallant Granite to get to Zefraath, then used Zefraath to add Shaddoll Zefranaga to the extra deck, giving a 1-5 scale for a pendulum summon of all the random lunalights still in hand as well as the Zefranaga, which would bounce tiger again for yet another extra use.
I’d like to see Infernity with 3 Archfiend and 2 Launcher in the next iteration!
That would actually be really funny lol
Kinda scary with that new support sounds fun
Im so glade jet synchron got unbanned since that synchro deck looks super fun
Yo next time you should unban all the dragon rulers to 3 since reddit thinks they’re ok
Honestly I just want to see the despair in twitch chat when dragon ruler link is shown as a thought experiment and proceeds to end on like, double baronne de fleur, borreload savage dragon, and god knows what else
Joseph you're an inspiration to everyone that can't read, I love you
Came back after today's banlist. Playing this in locals
Wow never thought that synchrons can go that far n to think I loved them bc they looked cool n seeing them just dominating the meta is so awesome
I think we need to try this on a grander tournament scale. These videos are very fun and I do see the vision, but I think we need to get a full on actual tournament under the MBT banlist to see some fuller implications.
fun fact the last duel last around 1 min and incedentally the 5ds intro is also 1min long....
coincidence i think not
This was sooooo much fun
"Alright well I guess we have found the weakness to sword soul; you just make blue-eyes white dragon"
Why did I laugh so hard at this?! LOL.
Well, it turned out more interesting that farfa's no negate tournament where the winners were just meta decls with the cards that say negate removed
Eh, that tournament wasn't decided by coin toss or hope they brick like this one.
that was the hypest iteration of dragon link I have ever seen! and all of that without agarpain and elpy!
and that synchron build was also really cool and skillful.
this was awesome to watch
8:07 this just straight uo shows that that guy has never played wind-ups and I’m getting pretty angry
As a Magic the gathering player , who played Yu-Gi-Oh in High school very casualy. this looks like ais playing by the speed and complexity of the lines
Sir Emanon's side deck zefraath play was so based, then the synchron game. Holy shit. RIP
51:42 "oh my god you can get celestial with monkeyboard, you cant take monkeyboard off"
konami: about that...
Feels like the eschatos carried it alot wonder Howd it go without knowing what he was playing against
Ud then change it for Protos no?
@@AltergeistThey aren't interchangable. Protos is a Wyrm, so you can't search it with Melody like Eschatos, and Level 10, which means Chaos Space isn't useful with it either. If you sub out Eschatos for Protos, you're just adding a card that you won't access in 99% of your games, and since you need to banish 3 different Attributes for it, you're forced into commiting to an Extra Deck play or hoping you've used a handtrap before it, since you're playing almost exclusively Light and Dark monsters.
@@NJoCaulfield I thought he was using small world and stuff yo find it thought ya I'd prob would need a different combo line
1:05:37 They went for Doppel instead of Ascator because Ascator is Earth and Chaos Ruler can only grab light/darks.
I'm down with making synchron the best deck
After seeing him play with cimmo, i was quite surprised to see how fast he could talk and keep up with all those plays.
It hurt to see how many matches in this were decided by one of the players just hard bricking
Most of these lists sucked tbh
I love these videos. This format is awesome. If you want to do another one where calamities is legal I'd love to play. Which will never happen but hey I'm gonna happily watch all of your future vids like this. MBT your my favorite UA-camr at the moment.
Honestly, while I think grass is an extremely powerful card, I think it is 1 of the cards on the list that could be experimented with. It's a card that you really have to build a deck around. While the Dragon deck was strong, it didn't really need grass all that much. I'm not saying Grass should come back, but it could be interesting if it did. Also Harp to 1.
Play 60 cards or die against a single grass. Very fun card.
@@SkullOfDreams But you would have a good chance of winning when they don't draw it because they play 60 cards.
@Skullo Dream I kinda think grass is that the type of card that should either be at zero or three. Building a deck around a one of doesn't really work that well unless the card is extremely searchable. Plus the difference between 1 and 3 is negligible. All that creates are consistency issues. And if grass was legal, everyone would know that if someone is playing a 60-card deck, hold the ash for the grass. I'd be curious to see a tournament where the only change would be grass to three.
@@astercat49 I would find it incredibly funny if that happened as I played Generaider at 60 cards for a while to reduce my risk of drawing the bosses and playing more generic interruptions and ways to get to my engine. If they held the Ash for the Grass I wouldn't play, I'd be able to Loptr without ever being threatened by the Ash.
@@michaelgrey1503 or end on the Generaiders xyz and another rank 9 (probably the negate since VFD is banned) and a hand loop from harr, if you open loptr monstrosity in 60 cards lol
The thumbnail is pure genius.
The synchron player just had ungodly luck
I haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh since the Zexal era and... uh... I don't know how I got here. I didn't even understand the game *then* well enough to win in casual games... I don't know what's happening. Mom, come pick me up, I'm scared.
apparently jet synchron is just too strong for the meta game
Synchro spamming is the only playstyle that will persevere on and on. Keep driving Keira, you were amazing
You know, the more I watch these tournaments, the less interesting they get. For so many cards off the banlist you'd think that more decks would experiment, but every successive tournament has had less and less alteration to both the meta decks and the rouge strategies. Grass Roots Dragon Link was pretty cool, but outside of that, everything else was pretty standard with very few alterations.
That's the issue with doing these as small tourneys with short notice, I think. If they were able to test for like two weeks or so, then do a prelim tourney to determine contestants and decks, I think it would be more interesting. But then it would be a huge undertaking every banlist season and I doubt there's time in Joseph's schedule for that.
@@NJoCaulfield
Issue is that MBT is basically cursed so that the official banlist comes out almost instantly after he does these toruneys. So to keep the gimmick accurate, he needs to have them done ASAP. Although with the Masochist version I think he could afford to allow more time now
To be fair that is kind of the point. The whole idea behind the tournament is that the ban list has a lot of bloat on it. If anything I think this makes a pretty good case that MBT is onto something.
@@AzureAetherXx Honestly, that's the reason why I'm not a big fan of MBT. A tournament like this should encourage creativity not flaunt the power of the status quo
@@munchrai6396
If cards ever came off the ban list on this level, this is exactly what would happen. The creativity you're asking for wouldn't happen because most Yu-Gi-Oh archetypes already have analogue cards similar to most of the generic cards that are banned. There are very few actual cards that would do anything to the format. And that's because these are all just tried and true strategies. Maybe you'd get some rogue stuff, but in a tournament consisting of a thousand players, you'd probably see very little rogue at the top. That's just statistics. That's also just meta, it would eventually just settle.
God the amount of plays in this tourny that just had me being like "wait what? Holy shit you can do that?!" Was incredible. These are all mad geniuses and to you I salute.
And to the synchron player: hope that decklist isn't a NFT cause I'm screenshotting it since it looks awesome as heck
If my list was an NFT, you better screen shot it. Rev it up, fuck NFTs
@@Ahamkeira true that
Was literally just watching the vod for this lol
I think this would be more accurate if there was rounds of swiss before the top 16. That way the decks that actually do stuff get to the top.
You know there's a lot of interesting discussions about the format of Yugituber videos where small scale tournaments are used to prove points in all ignorance of the law of large numbers.
However, who the fuck cares, Synchron best deck it is the actual best timeline let's unban more shit while we're at it that deck is literally invincible.
This doesn’t even qualify as a small scale tournament. Some locals have top cuts; this one isn’t even big enough for that.
Honestly, probably what Konami should do is have a second format where it starts with every card unbanned. And let it organically figure itself out. Give it like four months for the meta to settle, and you'd figure out what should remain banned. Then every two years, do it again. Unban everything and watch the meta settle.
@@ArcDragoon something like that's called traditional, but no one cares about that
41:06 has to be the best thing I’ve seen in a while
Jet synchron was the problem
not really synchron is just that good
I hope MBT becomes an official konami commentator during tournaments! I like his style!
Dino sucks
“Ok, you can’t take Monkeyboard off.”
Uh oh
So Maverick just won most of his games because he went first literally every time and knew which decks his opponents were playing
Game 1 round 1 he literally blind calls dinosaur because he has knowledge of his opponent's deck. Very disappointing way to lose from an otherwise broken hand in a powerful deck.
@@EpicKingofFail i mean tbf he couldve guessed it decently based on his opponent. with eschatos you dont really need a ton of knowledge of your opponents deck to make the right call so even in a normal tournament setting he wouldnt be that much worse off, especially later in the tournament when your more likely to have an idea what ppl are playing based on knowing the player, the meta, or just hearing/seeing things during the tournament
@@radioatlast still scummy to win just because you know what you’re Opponent plays beforehand.
We don't deserve content of this sheer entertainment value.
Haven't played real yugioh in years, but just watching these over-meta monstrosities duking eachother out of a bracket is peak content man.
Absolute props to your commentatorship, and you did it all live! I will never unsubscribe from this channel as long as I live 💖
The real lesson here is that the archnemisis cards will be a problem for a while. Using it with the Dino link 2 is pretty big brain
these ones knew their opponent ahead of time but still yea
@@fortidogi8620 tbh, u can prob change it for Protos when u don't know and get similar results
for a lot of the decks that have either multiple attributes or multiple types or involve banishing Golden Nova has been recommending if you want the deck it's best chance at semi-rogue playability running the archnemesis or a nemesis package is probably a good choice since they are kind of game enders.
Going fast
Makes me feel alive
It's a blur as I speed by
If I bait ASH BLOSSOMS, I won't lose
Time to jet all of these rubes
I haven't actually watched the video yet but judging from the title: I have no idea how MBT is surprised that unbanning more tham half the list actually changes the game
what are your thoughts now?
Props to Joseph, I don't understand yugioh, but was super entertained.
The banlist is not about balancing the game, it's about making money.
- Banning cards to make the current top decks less relevant than whatever new stuff is coming out, to entice people to buy the new stuff
- Unbanning old cards that are about to be reprinted, so that people will buy the reprint sets
- Avoiding an abysmally unfun format (like the Wind-up / Inzektor / Dino-Rabbit format) to keep the game alive
There is zero way you can say that point 3 is not also about balancing the game. An illusion of a somewhat balanced game makes more money than a game even babies can see is all about sacking and stacking.
That is kind of a reductive way of thinking. Remember how long sky strikers was meta and everyone hated it?
Konami wants to make money but honestly the fan base wants old decks to be cycled out for new shit.
Just look at the fan base when a format goes on a little to long
Also unbanning old cards after they are below rogue tier power level is a good enough incentive sometimes to bring people back in the game, get some new cards for their old deck or even invest in something new because they can't really compete with the new shit
@@geiseric222 sure, but unless a deck is aggressively unfun, no one wants a deck slaughtered. Just brough down to size so other decks can compete.
@@michaelgrey1503 but my striker comparison is apt. People wanted engage dead, and they got that. The result is striker basically fell from competitive play for a pretty long time and still is only marginally rogue.
Same thing happened to VW with King
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