JC Leyendecker: The Iconic Gay Artist We ALMOST Forgot

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  • @KazRowe
    @KazRowe  3 роки тому +2660

    Hey folks, someone kindly brought up that I should have talked a bit about some issues in Leyendecker's paintings in this video. I didn't go into this because, since there are already so many artistic analyses of his artwork out there, I wanted to focus wholly on his biography (I also planned on talking about this in a future video I'm working on, but I'd like it noted here as well). But in hindsight I do feel I should have talked about this in the video. As with nearly every Golden Age illustrator, Leyendecker's work for the Saturday Evening Post (a pointedly conservative publication of the time) suffers from a racial standpoint. Back then, the Post had a rule stating that all black people in the illustrations could only be portrayed performing acts of service. In several of the Post covers there are also Native Americans portrayed in a stereotypical and offensive manner. It's completely abhorrent. A few scholars have said that Leyendecker disliked this rule and tried to get back at it by placing these figures as the focal point of the composition. I think we'll never know for sure what his feelings were, but placing them as the focal point doesn't change the harmful stereotypes these paintings still employed. If anything, the whole focal point thing may have backfired by instead emphasizing the issues. But regardless these paintings are a problem and can't be ignored when analyzing Leyendecker's body of work. Anyway, I regret not including this in the video and I appreciate that someone brought this up to me. I was mistaken in deciding a biography video doesn't also necessitate a conversation on what an artist's work says too. But, thanks for reading!!

    • @rejan5163
      @rejan5163 3 роки тому +46

      Love these artist bio type of videos. Pls do more. Especially Walter Everette. i think he's kinda underrated even though his works are great.

    • @lasofi5510
      @lasofi5510 3 роки тому +11

      tysm 4 this video, very interesting, I love the history of our comunity 🤗🤗

    • @Sentientmatter8
      @Sentientmatter8 3 роки тому +67

      @Kaz Rowe
      From your video, it sounds to me like Frank had ADHD. Starting but failing to finish projects, impulsive spending, substance abuse and lifelong problems with depression are all markers of ADHD. I can imagine how hard it must have been to be just as talented as his neurotypical brother, but somehow unable to complete and achieve things the way he did. Especially since mental and performative problems where so moralizes in the 20th century - Lazy, Selfish, immature... I'm sure he heard all of those

    • @rd6203
      @rd6203 3 роки тому +38

      I feel like there is so much packed in here that it would have just muddied it. I also feel like you were pretty clear that the video is about his life, not his art. I really don't think it would have been truly relevant to this video and support your original decision

    • @aleksbakman7562
      @aleksbakman7562 3 роки тому +14

      We can all agree that this is your first attempt to bring our beloved artist to our lives. The first attempt was great. Looking forward to the next one.

  • @azaleaamethyst4236
    @azaleaamethyst4236 3 роки тому +3334

    Kind of iconic that the only demonstrably straight kid was the family disappointment

    • @ThisGuy76
      @ThisGuy76 3 роки тому +84

      I think you meant "ironic".

    • @scary.stegosaurus
      @scary.stegosaurus 3 роки тому +261

      @@ThisGuy76 both work

    • @barbara_LL
      @barbara_LL 3 роки тому +12

      I kinda of love it too honestly 🤣🤣🤣

    • @RockstarKisses13
      @RockstarKisses13 3 роки тому +147

      I kinda feel bad that they didn’t bury him with the rest of his family though that’s harsh

    • @barbara_LL
      @barbara_LL 3 роки тому +16

      @@RockstarKisses13 I mean yeah, I would feel bad If it was me, I think

  • @popoumu
    @popoumu 3 роки тому +1774

    29:47 the guy really said "all female born after 1993 can't cook... all they know is mcdonald's, charge they phone, twerk, be bisexual, eat hot chip and lie"

  • @m.f.hopkins8728
    @m.f.hopkins8728 3 роки тому +1675

    Now I see why Leyendecker's illustrated men were so good-looking. He definitely had a type.
    This is a great biographical work!

    • @Alexis-nd9kw
      @Alexis-nd9kw 3 роки тому +76

      it was literally his bf wasn't it

    • @superkayou7199
      @superkayou7199 2 роки тому +3

      @@Alexis-nd9kw Joseph was not a homosexual, so no.

    • @flowercities
      @flowercities 2 роки тому +100

      @@superkayou7199 have you watched the video

    • @superkayou7199
      @superkayou7199 2 роки тому

      @@flowercities Yes. Is that all you've watched? There is not a single piece of evidence that Joseph was a homosexual. None. Every allusion to his sexuality is inferred by the author of the video, which is a disgraceful projection of his sexuality posthumously.

    • @shalinitiwariscorner5210
      @shalinitiwariscorner5210 2 роки тому +3

      @@superkayou7199 What kind of evidence do you homophobes need to believe????? A sex tape or public making out pictures????
      The love of J.C. and Charles Beach is clearly projected in their whole lifetime, their landlord's accounts, Frank's accounts, Augusta & Robert's accounts and even their neighbours' accounts.
      Even heterosexual couples those days, never used to take pictures while making out or being naked together on beaches. Love of that era will never fit in your standards.

  • @ievadee
    @ievadee 3 роки тому +1448

    That scandalous tale about Adolf, oh my! Your narration and visual accompaniments were hilarious!

    • @Th3Ch3rryM00n
      @Th3Ch3rryM00n 3 роки тому +69

      They were great. The Scooby -Slippers killed me with laughter

    • @sphinxwidget
      @sphinxwidget 3 роки тому +44

      The pasta necklace got me first XD

    • @L0rdOfThePies
      @L0rdOfThePies 3 роки тому +15

      The gazelle thing got me

    • @sleepysartorialist
      @sleepysartorialist 3 роки тому +9

      I audibly guffawed at that part

    • @Hollie0981
      @Hollie0981 2 роки тому +3

      Legit howled at those 😂

  • @katelynbowers2985
    @katelynbowers2985 3 роки тому +344

    “Like a great ship with the bottom dropped out” ok time to cry...

  • @aba4055
    @aba4055 3 роки тому +1310

    this was fire, the extent of my previous research was wikipedia which basically says "mmmm he drew some guys and such, he had this bestest friend named charles who was his best friend for life and that is all we have to say on the matter" like ok thank you mrs.homosexual erasure

    • @lasofi5510
      @lasofi5510 3 роки тому +36

      "Wikipedia is my enemy"

    • @jpgextinction
      @jpgextinction 2 роки тому +57

      Sometimes I wonder if gay erasure is motivated by heterosexual people being jealous

    • @cronchybo
      @cronchybo 2 роки тому +58

      anytime you see "best friend" in a wikipedia article, they were most likely lovers.

    • @c.w.8200
      @c.w.8200 Рік тому +4

      @@jpgextinction I think it's just lack of imagination mostly.

    • @davidkonevky7372
      @davidkonevky7372 Рік тому +3

      This! Literally just watch any other youtube video on him and no one talks ablut his sexuality

  • @Dandelia
    @Dandelia 3 роки тому +222

    Common people usually don’t know who Leyendecker is, but if you ask an artist, illustrator or an art major, they probably will know. He’s a legend, nobody can ever draws like him.

    • @damianBTSot7
      @damianBTSot7 Рік тому +20

      "Common people?" Oh my.

    • @somethingsomethingsomethin9009
      @somethingsomethingsomethin9009 Рік тому +2

      Theres always a next one. Noone can ever draw exactly like someone else. But noone is forever unique. Someone out there, even right this very time, is probably drawing like him.

  • @MYSTERIOMUSIK
    @MYSTERIOMUSIK 3 роки тому +466

    .... Honestly as a gay artist myself (not just a musician) this is heart warming and tragic. I've always used my most serious lovers as my muses, even calling my first serious boyfriend my "young James Dean". I like to think that everyone probably knew about J.C and Charles but were endeared enough by their love to keep it a secret.... Maybe not... But it's happier to think of it that way.

  • @meepMepp
    @meepMepp 3 роки тому +792

    I really loved this video! Gay history is one of my favorite topics (for i too am gay history) so a 45 minute video about gay artists is exactly what i needed today

    • @lasofi5510
      @lasofi5510 3 роки тому +3

      X2 😍

    • @WillowTDog
      @WillowTDog 3 роки тому +3

      Same!

    • @Alexis-nd9kw
      @Alexis-nd9kw 3 роки тому +6

      "i am too gay for history" iconic

    • @ceciliastrakna-dhs-baltimo3780
      @ceciliastrakna-dhs-baltimo3780 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm cis/hetero but Gay history is everybody's history - and it's been ignored for waaaaay too long. I love Kaz's videos!

  • @leighthomp
    @leighthomp 3 роки тому +607

    We definitely need a biopic of him and his family. I'd never heard of him until watching your videos, and I'm glad you're keeping his story alive.

    • @WillowTDog
      @WillowTDog 3 роки тому +17

      I completely agree! Love gay historical biopics! But I hadn't heard of him either.

    • @Hollie0981
      @Hollie0981 2 роки тому +4

      That's what I thought too. Where's his film?

  • @xavierrodriguez1370
    @xavierrodriguez1370 3 роки тому +1113

    According to my grandfather, all the important cultural trendsetters, artists, philosophers, scientists, like Leonardo da Vinci and Sophocles were gay. I thought it might be appropriate to mention.

    • @lasofi5510
      @lasofi5510 3 роки тому +4

      UwU

    • @pankakotakismegalomavropou3355
      @pankakotakismegalomavropou3355 3 роки тому +116

      Many. Disproportionately so, but not all. Gays or men of the sexual avant garde are behind a lot of culture. That and children of the upper middle class or bourgeoisie. My favorite is Yukio Mishima.

    • @dcaouki
      @dcaouki 3 роки тому +43

      @@pankakotakismegalomavropou3355 not to be reductive, but wasn’t Mishima a fascist who led a failed military coup and then had to ritualistically himself

    • @speedycube3239
      @speedycube3239 3 роки тому +11

      everyone is gay, nobody would admit it

    • @goosegoose5361
      @goosegoose5361 3 роки тому +29

      @@dcaouki not quite a fascist, he believed that the Emperor should have had their absoloute power restored while disolving the government. He stormed into a military base with his lover and after making a speech to troops that laughed him off committed ritual suicide, the act of seppuku in japan

  • @annitendo
    @annitendo 3 роки тому +212

    Don't worry the art community has not forgotten this icon! We still worship him!

  • @audiovisual1943
    @audiovisual1943 3 роки тому +238

    I'm a big fan of JC Leyendecker. I grew up in lower Westchester County and never knew he existed until about 2012. His art is amazing. His brother's art was so good too. So unfortunate that he couldn't clean up his act and have done more with his talent.
    I currently live in a town very close to New Rochelle. I often drive by the Leyendecker mansion to pay tribute. When I looked online for photos of JC Leyendecker and of his New Rochelle home I was saddened that there didn't appear to be a lot. I'm glad you showed them. I wish his mansion and the grounds were made into a museum. At least the home still exists.
    Discovering JC Leyendecker's art and his story was so magical for me. Your video on him and his brother is great!! I am so happy you made it and feel the same way about him, his work, and his place as a prominent artist. Thank you.

    • @KazRowe
      @KazRowe  3 роки тому +50

      Thank you! Yes, when I took my tour I was so happy to see there was very minimal renovation/changes made to the mansion. Its original beauty is still there and the school cares a lot about the legacy of the home. I do wish there was a Leyendecker museum, but the Haggin Museum is probably as close as we'll get.

    • @audiovisual1943
      @audiovisual1943 3 роки тому +17

      @@KazRowe Sorry for the delay in responding. I didn't know until now. I have been dealing with the craziness (like the world) of adapting to the major changes at work from COVID. After I originally saw your video on Leyendecker I thought; wow you got to go on a tour of his home, how extraordinarily mega cool!!! I had wished I had thought of asking. But knowing that it may be possible I felt so happy. Of course COVID was around so I put everything in the back of my mind. But inspired by your adventure I contacted the day school this past August and after about a month of waiting I was granted a tour. It was everything you said! I couldn't believe I was in the building and on the grounds; which were far more extensive then I had imagined. I soaked in evey sight and moment. Thank you so much! It was all because you shared your love of Leyendecker, art, and your videos!!! I love the Woodlawn Cemetery and have been there so many times. I had no idea Leyendecker was buried there with his family that ventured to NY. That will be my next trip. Btw, I rewatched your Leyendecker video after going to his home and it is so incredibly well done. I loved all the info and research you did for it. When I watched your F. Scott Fitzgerald video I loved something you mentioned that was a complete surprise to me, that Leyendecker & Beach may have been the inspiration for the two main characters in the Great Gatsby. After you mentioned it I thought omg it makes so much sense! Lol. I am a big fan. You are doing such a great job with you videos. Stay well, safe, and most of all happy!!!

    • @rj3892
      @rj3892 2 роки тому +3

      @@audiovisual1943 that is amazing!! I'm so jealous that you got a tour!

  • @bethanl2213
    @bethanl2213 3 роки тому +143

    The British accent that comes and goes is... so Gatsby :O

  • @mercedes4202
    @mercedes4202 3 роки тому +269

    i started crying at the end this is so good

    • @TheDarkfireMoon
      @TheDarkfireMoon 3 роки тому +24

      Same and I can't quite pinpoint why I am still crying. I guess it just seems like such a lonely existence even though he had his lover.

    • @MissMisnomer_
      @MissMisnomer_ 3 роки тому +25

      Same. It's just the idea that this man and his true love deserved to be so much happier than society allowed them to be, and the life they never truly got to lead because of it. I'm so glad we were graced with his art. And as an artist myself, his pain at becoming irrelevant in a changing world, of technology removing the need for artists with every year that goes by, is something that's just as real today as it was yesterday and something I can truly relate to.

    • @rd6203
      @rd6203 3 роки тому +6

      Oh, good... I thought for a moment that I had gotten soft

    • @someidiotjayce5618
      @someidiotjayce5618 3 роки тому +3

      Same🤧

    • @jinxingxuelang
      @jinxingxuelang 3 роки тому +3

      well I am glad I am not the only one

  • @oops383
    @oops383 3 роки тому +201

    About the “memories going up in flames”, Racgel Carson was a prominent figure at my former university. People believe she was a lesbian. I looked more into it and found that she had her letters to her “best friends” burned. Its quite sad that queer people in history had to do that, i cant imagine how hard all of this would be

  • @helohalo3106
    @helohalo3106 3 роки тому +91

    It’s a shame that this is not turned into a movie, so fascinating

  • @kimd7300
    @kimd7300 Рік тому +20

    I feel sorry for Charles at the end. After almost 50 years with someone he loved and losing him, seems like he was just waiting to die. I knew of a relative who lived like that for many years before she finally passed.

  • @yvonnezimmer7246
    @yvonnezimmer7246 3 роки тому +119

    I'd be so interested in a video detailing the parallels between Gatsby and Leyendecker. I had the long standing theory that there is homoerotic (sub)text in several places in Gatsby and the book drawing inspiration from a gay man just further helps with that theory.

  • @clarandie
    @clarandie 3 роки тому +285

    The fabled Leyendecker video!!!!! It's finally here!!!!!
    This was a beautiful video - I loved the costume and location changes, and the editing was incredible as always.
    My favourite bit has to be the Adolf scandal comic - finally the gamer chair/scooby slippers picture makes sense.... (also wow what good comic panels! as expected of the creator of super cool webcomic Cunning Fire)
    I already knew how much you love JC, his work and his story, but it really did show in this video. Thank you for sharing your research (and this story!) with us.

    • @KazRowe
      @KazRowe  3 роки тому +37

      Thank you so much!! haha yeah I had a lot of fun with the Adolph story :'D

  • @dandelion473
    @dandelion473 3 роки тому +216

    Not sure if you're open to suggestions, but Erik Satie (the French pianist from the late 1800s) was a very quirky dude and might make for a fun video. I wrote an essay on his life for school and I had a lot of fun researching his oddball responses to critics and whatnot.

    • @sarahnor
      @sarahnor 3 роки тому +16

      i'm an erik satie fan but have always focused on his music more than his biography. would love to read the essay you wrote!

    • @Acrylara
      @Acrylara 3 роки тому +3

      Yes! That would be great

    • @Liessssssssssss
      @Liessssssssssss 3 роки тому +9

      he was a shitposter avant la lettre, I love him

  • @greenjadey8976
    @greenjadey8976 3 роки тому +86

    I'm so fucking glad it watched this video. A couple of years ago, I found out JC was gay and when i tried to look up historical information about it, I couldn't find any. JC is probably one of my favorite artists and I want to say that your video made me cry a couple of times. I am so so happy thank you for this.

    • @normanduke8855
      @normanduke8855 Рік тому

      You are showing a poor upbringing by swearing in a public space.

  • @qualityegg
    @qualityegg Рік тому +5

    Thank you for making this video!
    I'm a queer artist and had no idea Leyendecker was gay. It's wonderful yet tragic to hear how he found love, yet could never live openly and confidently. How wonderful it would be if we lived in a world where all those letters and sketches remained so we might have some glimps into how their shared life looked like.
    Wonderful work as always, Kaz!

  • @vysov
    @vysov 3 роки тому +68

    were it not for my state of being one of the accused "dehydrated clowns," i would have been openly weeping by the end of this... beautiful delivery, the passion i've witnessed you growing and nurturing for years really shines forth here! if my history of illustration professor was still with us, i believe she may well have flown across the continent to personally thank you for such amazing work (global pandemic be damned). honestly, if i had the means, i would do the same - for this, and for all the excellent things you gift to the world.
    thank you!

  • @roelantverhoeven371
    @roelantverhoeven371 Рік тому +7

    his style was also one of my main inspirations of how I draw figures... he was a genius, one of the greatest artists of the 20th century.

  • @Mallowolf
    @Mallowolf 3 роки тому +89

    I love Leyendecker’s work, but I didn’t know anything about his life. Great video, I really enjoyed it.

  • @richardwilson1234
    @richardwilson1234 Рік тому +3

    I hadn't heard of JC Leyendecker before but am a fan of Norman Rockwell. Thanks for pointing me in Leyendeckers direction. I'm off to find more of his work and his brother Frank. Your videos are so interesting, compelling and informative. Thanks.x

  • @leamubiu
    @leamubiu 3 роки тому +29

    I thank you for this. I'm floored that Leyendecker isn't more celebrated. I first saw his work only this year, but it's so strikingly recognizable and beautiful that he instantly became an inspiration for me-i.e. I memorized his name. Thank you for fleshing out his story :)

    • @heinoustentacles5719
      @heinoustentacles5719 3 роки тому +3

      Yes I remember searching about the "Golden Age of Illustration", and among many great works, his gripped me the most

  • @PropheticAnomaly
    @PropheticAnomaly 3 роки тому +76

    When you said that Charles destroyed some of JC’s work after his death I audibly screamed NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @meltystar_ii
      @meltystar_ii 2 роки тому +25

      im not mad about it, tbh. charles only did what jc asked him to. after all, we already have his paintings, which jc clearly wanted to share. is it a bummer that we'll never get to see those sketches? yeah, i'd say so. but i dont think anybody is entitled to the private work he did, especially not if he explicitly asked for it to never see the light of day.

  • @joshuachapman4280
    @joshuachapman4280 8 місяців тому +2

    Leyendecker is one of my greatest loves, as a person obsessed with vintage tailoring, and a queer with a thing for dandies, I've been obsessed with Leyendecker's work for a long time, particularly his ads for Kuppenheimer. This was a fantastic video as always, Kaz. Thank you for this incredible, well researched and in depth video.

  • @ChrisHutchison-l2l
    @ChrisHutchison-l2l 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you so much for your amazing video and all of your research! Charles Allwood BEACH was my 2nd cousin 3x removed. What a life!

  • @Antaios632
    @Antaios632 3 роки тому +43

    I am so happy that you made this! I was 49 years old when I first learned of Leyendecker, but you went into more detail about his life than I'd discovered. It's so great to see a young person continuing to pass on our gay history. ♥️🏳️‍🌈♥️

  • @sophroniel
    @sophroniel 3 роки тому +26

    I don't know if Kaz will see this comment but I HAVE to share....
    So, I am a kiwi born and raises in NZ, but my maternal grandmother was American (I never met her as she died 5 days before I was born) but *her* mother (my maternal great-grandmother) was a professional artist and, once she had children, she went on to be an art teacher in Seattle.
    I never met her either but our house is full of her art; I have an uncl who is an artist/works on peter jackson films, but no one else in my (large) family is remotely interested in art, so my great grandmother has always been interesting to me. She painted rather large oil portrait of her daughter (my grandmother) when she was about 14 (late 1940's), and it's always hung in my family's house. I've always been facinated with the way she painted the brushstrokes; they're very angular but defined, detailed but expressive at the same time.
    Fast forward to when I started getting more into art as a young teenager, and I developed this very specific, defined style that--much to my teacher's chagrin, especially once I started winning prizes--I could never explain or show an artist model for... I think I knew it was something like my grandmother's portrait style, but it was *also* like this falling-apart old, hand-bound art book that had no title and was just page after page of colour plates.... plate of which I learned, as an adult, were all JC's works. Of course I had no way of google image searching this stuff as a 14 year old in New Zealand, back almost 15 years ago now (yikes, me gettin old!), and no one around me (like my art teachers) talked about commercial work (they were all classically trained european artists) so raised the flag as to who Lydecker was, but it clicked for me recently when I found that book again; one of the plates had come loose, and I realised that there was a black and white image under it that clearly been cut out of a book..... looking much closer at all the images, I realised a good half of them weren't colour plates at all: they were hand sketched, etched and watercolour copies my grandmother had made of his work when she studied at the Chicago Insitute of Art. She had clearly studied him and, once I saw it I couldn't un-see it. She was a portraitist, and everything from the textured background to the way she built up skin tones... it's all Leyendecker. It's different enough to be unique, of course, but I just geeked tf out because it was so clear, and her copies were so good I hadn't even noticed as a kid.

    • @bobwatson1552
      @bobwatson1552 2 роки тому +1

      Katz, you are amazing!!! I thought that I was the only Leyendecker out there. I have beautiful prints of his work all over my house. No one who visits me has ever heard of him and does not understand my obsession with him. I have tried to research him with very little success. THEN you come out with a wonderful video.
      You mentioned a thin paperback that may be purchased. How do I get a copy?
      Thanks, Bob Watson

    • @sophroniel
      @sophroniel 2 роки тому

      @@bobwatson1552 i don't think you meant to reply to me, sorry! But I agree with you, Kaz' art and videos are awesome!

  • @crispychaos6768
    @crispychaos6768 3 роки тому +46

    Hollywood needs to make a movie about Leyendecker and Beach. Maybe a small cameo of Rockwell since they were friends. Also how did you get these photos of Charles Beach? I've looked through the internet years ago and nada. I've even wondered where he was buried because the book I read, J.C. Leyendecker by the Cutlers mentioned Beached died but not where he was buried. Kudos to you for finding this info. I was really sad that Beach was alone and drank himself to death and to kick it off no one mentioned where he was buried or who was there for his funeral.

  • @MrMikeTauber
    @MrMikeTauber 10 місяців тому +3

    Fascinating bio - really personalizes the artist! I saw a Leyendecker exhibit at Fullerton Museum Center (CA) a few years back, truly spectacular. I knew he and Rockwell knew each other, but now realize they were closer than many reports. Incredible research, and well presented THANK YOU @kazrowe you are a great historian! 😍🌈💯

  • @thediktatortot9645
    @thediktatortot9645 3 роки тому +27

    These sorts of stories really give me hope that as a fellow queer person I might find happiness regardless of the worlds expectations of me. I'm still crying over this ending! JC has been a inspiration for me for years and I didn't know the full history of his end life. Thank you for this video!

  • @Jamie-gg4nd
    @Jamie-gg4nd Місяць тому +2

    this video might be a bit old but i need to thank you for it! im currently an illustration major and doing a portrait of leyendecker/charles for an assignment where we need to also somehow incorporate information about the subjects live into the work, and have been struggling to find credible information. this is well explained, the perfect amount of detail, and also really entertaining to consume! Also so excited to give your comic a read, as i am mainly a comics based illustrator!!

  • @joancurran4897
    @joancurran4897 7 місяців тому +1

    Geez, this was one of the most beautiful biographical tributes to a much loved/admired artist of mine. The news of the gay mistreatments of the times and their ripple effect saddens me.
    I am glad he & his lover, Charles Beach found each other & led loving devoted lives.
    Never knew his sad family backstory & history & am grateful for your research. Never knew his brother painted close work. Wish everyone had a more harmonis lifetime.
    I, for one, will never forget his body of exquisite work. It is easily reconizable & love does show through all his work.
    Great work you did here. Keep up the Good Work. It sure is appreciated. ❤

  • @mochibunnyan6556
    @mochibunnyan6556 3 роки тому +40

    I remember once seeing an image of Leyendecker’s paintings on Pinterest and I thought it was made by a digital artist, and it wasn’t till i watched this video that i learned otherwise lolol

  • @hungrytroodontid
    @hungrytroodontid 6 місяців тому +2

    The images for the Adolf scandal were hilarious, and Charles’s words at the end had me cry. What a beautiful video. And the pinned comment is appreciated.

  • @bernardkealey6449
    @bernardkealey6449 Рік тому +2

    Occasionally the YT algorithm bounces me a total winner. Today was such a day.
    Many thanks for such a wonderful lesson. I’ve binged on about 5 of your vids this evening. And now… Subscribed

  • @dacuzbuzz
    @dacuzbuzz 11 місяців тому +2

    Great documentary and appreciate you keeping the Leyendecker legacy alive!

  • @stratovolcano7813
    @stratovolcano7813 3 роки тому +19

    I loved this video so much!!! I remember the first time I looked up leyendecker, before I knew he was a gay artist I had the strong feeling he was gay from his paintings. It was very interesting to hear such a direct story about how homosexuality was viewed in the 18/1900s. I look up to leyendecker a lot!

  • @Nicoleisswole
    @Nicoleisswole 3 роки тому +56

    Also, just wanted to add that you’re officially my new favorite channel. The way you tell stories is so interesting and heartfelt; I can tell you really, really love what you’re talking about. You’re gonna go far!!! :)

  • @ardentlines814
    @ardentlines814 3 роки тому +17

    I have an arrow tuxedo shirt and arrow collar poster from the mid-30’s, I never knew the story behind it!

  • @coriolix
    @coriolix 2 роки тому +4

    I've seen J. C. Leyendecker's advertisement illustrations for a long time and knew they had to all be from the same person. But I didn't learn of his name until a few years ago. The confident way he uses shapes and color contrasts is amazing. Thank you so much for this comprehensive and thoughtful biography.

  • @HiddenDarkHM
    @HiddenDarkHM 10 місяців тому +3

    Though not perfect by any extent it is still nice to see a story of a historical gay couple who managed to live their lives together until an old age and natural causes. It's so painfully rare and that part is heartwarming.

  • @foxesofautumn
    @foxesofautumn 3 роки тому +10

    I didn't really know this story. I'm not American and I feel like this poor chap is even poorly known outside the US but I have seen his work before and I love it. Thank you for sharing his story and keeping the torch alive.

  • @angiemaestre638
    @angiemaestre638 3 роки тому +10

    In my art school in Paris Leyendecker was studied for his accuracy in anatomy and posing and also for his stylized technique that is now used in modern videogame 3D art. Blizzard acknowledged that he is the main inspiration for the character design in overwatch. and as usual everyone is imitating that style therefore unconsciously imitating Leyendecker. So he is slowly coming back. Don't worry, a legend like this will get recognized at some point, they always do.

  • @HeyItsNovalee
    @HeyItsNovalee 3 роки тому +12

    I managed to escape tears all the way until the very end, when you mentioned how he had a great fear of being forgotten.
    I’m not sure why that got me, maybe because I’m also a queer artist and the idea of, not so much never achieving fame but more so all the things I love and care about being erased definitely saddens me.
    Or maybe it’s just because it makes me happy to think that out of so many queer people in history with vibrant and often tragic lives steeped in shadow and secrecy, so often forgotten or misrepresented, just the fact that I know about him means his story won’t be completely lost. And that made me tear up.

  • @cherstain
    @cherstain 2 роки тому +7

    As a current queer School of the art Institute Of Chicago student, hearing the close to home-ness of this particular history story warmed my heart. Thank you for sharing Kaz!!

  • @olivw
    @olivw 2 роки тому +5

    I used this video for a school project a couple months ago, and I got an 100! I showed my teacher this video (She wanted to see where I got most of my information) and she was amazed by your talent! Keep up the good work :)

  • @lasciamidasolo
    @lasciamidasolo Рік тому +6

    "Can't have a gay man defining American culture, can you? The big secret is they always have." Well-said!
    I've always been interested in the work of Norman Rockwell, and through him I began to look into J.C. Leyendecker's as well. Never knew his life was this interesting! Thank you for all the wonderful research and work that you've done into ensuring J.C. (and Charles)'s legacy remains known. You just gained another subscriber.

  • @RosieTheMushrum
    @RosieTheMushrum 2 роки тому +6

    oooh boy I didn't expect the last part with Charles interview to straight up make me sob... god this video was honestly wonderful and Kaz your seriously a wonderful storyteller and your one of the most handsome and beautiful people I've ever seen, keep it up and rock on.

  • @lisahoffman5846
    @lisahoffman5846 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful presentation. I've loved JC for years and was so happy to see this. Well done......

  • @AllenFreemanMediaGuru
    @AllenFreemanMediaGuru 3 роки тому +11

    Bravo! Excellently done! I got a BFA in 1978, started working for a large advertisting agency that summer. They had huge clip art files for art refence and I discovered J. C. work as covers and ads of his from magazines were in thise folders! Of all of the other artists of the 20s-40s besides Norman Rockwell, JCL was the one who’s style I never forgot!

  • @clovis9125
    @clovis9125 3 роки тому +8

    As a tailor the work of leyndecker has always been a great source of insperation for me. Thanks fr sharing his story!

  • @sophroniel
    @sophroniel 3 роки тому +9

    "He saw what he saw!" 👀
    *this is fine art and no one can convince me it isn't*

  • @SturgeonPilot
    @SturgeonPilot 3 роки тому +4

    This reminded me that growing up my grandmother had a few copies of Leyendecker's work and how I was always so captivated by how much movement it had (specifically his illustrations of children which was most of what she had) and how warm it felt. Thanks for helping to bring this memory back and help me appreciate the man who made them!

  • @sophiafrederick673
    @sophiafrederick673 11 місяців тому +2

    I know this is an old video but I LOVE Leyendecker’s work! Some of his paintings are on display in a museum in my hometown.

  • @gigatoob
    @gigatoob 2 роки тому +9

    Thank you. I thought I knew all about the brothers but heard some new info here. I have never been fond of Rockwell but it seems he was very good to Frank. His art being more traditional he became more well known over JC. I have collected both brothers' art for years from magazines and I sell on ebay. It's much harder to find many of the best pieces at reasonable prices anymore. Very different than when I started collecting 20 years ago or so. I especially like Frank's work. Thank you for your passion!

  • @drapershreeve4409
    @drapershreeve4409 Рік тому +3

    Having just seen "Under Cover: J.C. Leyendecker and American Masculinity" at the New-York Historical Society, I stumbled across this quirky, highly-informative video by Kaz Rowe. What a find -- kudos to Kaz!

  • @jimjohngirard
    @jimjohngirard Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for this detailed biography of J.C. You were so thorough, as you carried several narratives at once, in parallel, explaining Family interactions and external pressures on J.C and Frank. What an engrossing, revealing and empathetic presentation of the humanity of this skilled and unique artist. Definitely up there with N.C. Wyeth, Maxfied Parish, Howard Pyle, Norman Rockwell and Frank Schoonover. Thank you for this gift, it was indeed a pleasure.

  • @kelseycoca
    @kelseycoca 2 роки тому +8

    I recently read the great Gatsby for the first time and immediately thought of Gatsby when you mentioned the parties. this was excellently done and warmed my heart 💕 the part about his home becoming a school made me tear up a little

  • @toomiepal
    @toomiepal Рік тому +2

    Thank you. I have loved Leyendecker's work and it is very good to have your podcast about his art and his life. Best wishes.

  • @splendidcyan
    @splendidcyan 2 роки тому +5

    JC Leyendecker is one of my favorite artists, one of my inspirations for markmaking and composition. Even so, I didn't expect to get emotional as I watched this video. Sure, he's a great artist and he's queer, which is incredibly important to me as a queer artist. But knowing who he was is different from simply analyzing his work, and I'm so happy to have been able to see this. Thank you for this!

  • @nowherels64
    @nowherels64 2 роки тому +4

    This was an excellently researched and put-together video. I teared up when you showed how the studio at the mansion looks now; the thought of those kids' art being painted and hung up in that studio where J.C. painted too is just so... Seeing as he loved kids so much, I bet he'd love to see that too!

  • @МарияКозлова-ч4ы
    @МарияКозлова-ч4ы 3 роки тому +10

    That is literally brilliant! JC is one of my favorite artists and I always wanted to know more about his biography. But sadly, there is very little information about him, so I’m grateful to you for making this wonderful research and video!

  • @Hollie0981
    @Hollie0981 2 роки тому +3

    Damn that was emotional. Thank you for sharing J C. with us. My jaw kept dropping at how incredible his work is. All I ever knew about was Rockwell, and would have assumed those pieces were Norman's. This is probably my favorite episode because you gave him a place in our minds and hearts. Now if you'll excuse me (sob)

  • @jewleeborrasca6924
    @jewleeborrasca6924 Рік тому +3

    This is truly brilliant, you've done a great justice to these artists and their families. I'm so glad I found this channel. 🌈💜

  • @alinamhensley
    @alinamhensley 3 роки тому +4

    I'm from the Collar City and it's awesome to learn more about the artist behind the Arrow ads. Little bits of hidden history right under my feet, thank you so much for everything you do.

  • @-K_J-
    @-K_J- 3 роки тому +28

    I've heard Leyendecker's art was inspiration, or at least part of it, for Team Fortress 2 and have been kinda fascinated with him since

  • @felipeleoni
    @felipeleoni 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you so much for this video. I’m a fan of Leyendecker’s work but had no information about his life. Learning that he was gay made me like his work even more, and it’s something I can definitely relate to.

  • @kathj2972
    @kathj2972 3 роки тому +8

    this needs to be made into a Netflix original series with the best costuming team seen yet.

  • @giff6346
    @giff6346 2 роки тому +6

    I found your video by accident but have always loved Leyendecker's art, and wrote about him in my dissertation years ago. You've done your research! and explain more than I ever knew. It's striking, isn't it, that so few photos of Beach exist. I guess we're to assume we see him in Leyendecker's work--and that has to be true--but it'd be great if some photos survived to show us indeed how striking a figure he was. It's an incredible thing to contrast all the great parties they threw along with their reclusivity. Talk about a house of divergent psychologies!--as you make clear indeed. Thanks for this video.

  • @maddiehennessy1795
    @maddiehennessy1795 11 місяців тому +1

    I am obsessed with your videos and the level of research that goes into them! Sending love from London xx

  • @nathanhittle9457
    @nathanhittle9457 2 роки тому +10

    I'm absolutely struck by the tragedy of Charles Beach's life. Likely disowned in youth and widowed in old age. It must have been so horrible to return to loneliness in that way when J.C. died...

  • @m.entera3196
    @m.entera3196 2 роки тому +4

    I learned about Leyendecker from my classical teacher back in the early 1980's. I'm happy that his work is being celebrated now, an rise that's especially due to his discovery by the gay community.

  • @annieanshor9968
    @annieanshor9968 3 роки тому +10

    dang, this was incredible!! i feel honored to have watched something brimming with this much passion. thanks for sharing

  • @yaboiaintshit4045
    @yaboiaintshit4045 3 роки тому +7

    THIS VIDEO WAS SO BEAUTIFUL I SOBBED AT THE END
    It’s such a wonderful video about and amazing artist. I wanted to know a little bit more about the guy before studying his work because I’ve always loved it, now I’m more motivated than ever to tribute him to the best of my abilities and never forget him. Keep being awesome

  • @evelyn3832
    @evelyn3832 3 роки тому +19

    i love this so much! ive wanted to look into leyendeckers biography a little more closely for a while now for gay reasons but never got around to it so i’m really glad i found this video (and your channel in general) :)

  • @leigheaux928
    @leigheaux928 3 роки тому +12

    Omg you deserve WAY more followers and views on this video. Leyendecker is suchhh a huge inspiration to me and others of course. Thank you for this!!!

  • @giminib4876
    @giminib4876 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for the video! It helped me greatly in writing a report for uni. JC Leyendecker is one of my most beloved artists, and it's nice to see you talk about him with such love. That intro is quite touching as well

  • @DSG851
    @DSG851 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for putting so much effort into you research and sharing all the stories wich should be told. You are a pearl.

  • @tomvalveede6808
    @tomvalveede6808 2 роки тому +6

    Great video!
    His Santas inspired the Coke a
    Cola Santa! And has never been given the credit.
    Your bio would make a great TV series! Going through the eras and changes in fashions would be awesome! Thank you! ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

  • @Tram235
    @Tram235 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for another wonderful video. I read a lot of history, but so many historians don’t spend the time or effort in the little nooks and crannies of cultural history. Keep up the good work, and I’ll keep watching.

  • @moonyasnow36
    @moonyasnow36 3 роки тому +2

    How dare you make me cry over an early 20th century advertisement painter

  • @trevorkelley7485
    @trevorkelley7485 2 роки тому +3

    Wow! I’m so happy I came across your video! I’m down a rabbit hole of vintage homoerotic art and photography. Thank you for all of your efforts into this bio! Now the original arrows ads I have added to my collection are even more valuable that that I have the backstory.

  • @SuperLarrythompson
    @SuperLarrythompson 2 роки тому +4

    Love this guy's art. Loved the bio on Netflix. And I love this vid. Thanks kaz.

  • @HecmarJayam
    @HecmarJayam 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for making and sharing this video. You narration at the end made me cry a little. As you rightly pointed out, Leyendecker rightly deserves so much more. Thanks!

  • @cuucnsbfl9913
    @cuucnsbfl9913 2 роки тому +2

    Joe WolfArth says: THANK YOU - Kaz - for the terrific videos that you have been creating and sharing with the world! I had seen the work of this artist before and I recognized it as homoerotic (gaydar?) but despite being an alumnus of the School of the Art Institute of Chicago Myself [BFA 1992] I have never seen the mural you highlighted in the Fine Arts Building... now I have a very good reason to seek it out on my next trip to the "Queen City of the Great Lakes" (a Real Descriptive term from history) - a place which holds so many powerful memories for me (and fine friends!)... THANK YOU for unveiling truths about our LGBTQIA history that so many people still, unfortunately, want never to be shared with the world (so much homophobia, STILL)... Blessings to you! 😃

  • @Sewstine
    @Sewstine Рік тому

    Just wanted to say I m absolutely obsessed with his art and he has influenced me greatly in mine and I so appreciate you taking the time to talk about his life as well!! ❤

  • @flyingcucumber
    @flyingcucumber 2 роки тому +1

    I hope too you and JC get more attention that you deserve. I'm in tears. Thank you.

  • @juliacheneyillustration3928
    @juliacheneyillustration3928 2 роки тому +3

    Beautiful video! I’ve always loved JC Leyendecker’s art style, and I’m glad I could learn more about his story.

  • @Tronipule
    @Tronipule 2 роки тому +2

    Brava! this was amazing. I saw a little documentary "Coded" on Amazon. it pails in comparison to this master class. I have the feeling when Charles burned JC's work, he burned all pictures of himself. It's a shame there's no picture of him in his glory. Once again, thank you

  • @gingercat
    @gingercat 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this!

  • @damianBTSot7
    @damianBTSot7 Рік тому

    As a painter I have an open heart to most other artists. I'm not a huge fan of "Pop/modern" art but I can appreciate it as an expression (sometimes) of the artists inner self. J. C. Leyendecker has always been an inspiration to me. His skill, taste & sometimes humor, are
    to be admired. Thank you for helping to keep the flame of his memory alive.

  • @MrTatiiin
    @MrTatiiin 2 роки тому +1

    Such a sad story. I just cryied with the end. Thanks for this video Kaz!! You're amazing.

  • @kibblemom
    @kibblemom 3 роки тому +4

    Wonderful video! Always loved Leyendecker's art but knew nothing about him. So glad to know he was "family" although it obviously made life difficult for him. Thank you for listing your sources at the end! I now have several new books on my TBR pile!