I think this is the most accurate comment. When we make such comments, we are labeled as “EF Fan” they think. No, we only want vehicles with real values.
because the real thing are like this the rafale is indeed a lot better than almost any other plane actually the Game was not ready to give the Rafale C F3 a proper balance. they should had go with another variant which offer a bit lower performance. such as the Rafale M
@@uriellima9193 Rafale M is just the Navy variant, they also use the same upgrades as the C (and same for the B), like F1, F2, F3, F3R like ingame, F4 and more. Rafale M, C and B have all the same basic capability, the B is just a dual seat Rafale and the M got some modification for carrier landing and catapult takeoff, but they all can do the same things outside thoses big letter. What define what they can do/their upgrades is the "Fx" that come after the name, that are like the block for F-16s. And even if the M has a little more weight, especially thanks to the reinforced front gear, it's not going to change much in the game if it come also as a modern upgrade like the F3R.
The EF will probably still win the dogfight due to the advantage in terms of t2w but instead of buffing and nerfing flight models that pretty much only require fine tuning they should allocate their ressources towards fixing the Radar systems: the EF has a worse Radar than several cold war jets whilst the Rafale is still stuck with basically a mechanical Radar...
@@warthundershowcasing8905 It does because the Rafale engines and air intakes are designed for subsonic and low supersonic speeds. EJ 200 only reaches its full potential at high mach speeds. Static thrust is not a good indicator. The Mirage 2000 has a better power to weight ration than the JAS 39 Gripen and F16A but it accelerates slower below mach because the M53 is an engine design to give its full potential at high mach. IRL Rafale never lost to an Eurofighter in a dogfight at low alt because the engines of the rafale are design to give their best at low alt and moderate speeds
@ it would have amazing first turn for sure better than anyone, but this is air rb bleeding a bunch of speed on a flashy first turn just gets you killed.
Ofc gajin is gonna buff an already over performing aircraft while aircraft like the midphoon, mig29, and flanker are underperforming and have other issues
MiG-29 and Su-27 underperforming i agreed. But Midphoon, i disagree asf, the Typhoon still the Best fighter in the game, Rafale is just turning more by a little margen
Lmao. These things were already physics destroyers. And apparently the buff is accurate to irl cus they used provided video evidence analysis on degrees per second
@@Zx17OPv57i Only at Sea-Low level. Mid-High level, Eurofighter wins. Also EF acceleration and top speed are under performing compared to real life. Also, max possible flight ceiling is 54,000 and 42,000 sustained in game for Eurofighter... IRL it's FC is 65,000 and sustained 55,000. Also, IRL Eurofighter Started with AIM-120C/4 and RAF EF Started with AIM-120C/5 and ASRAAMs. Also, Captor is not working correctly. Also, PIRATE is not working correctly.
Question to Sim players. I bought Rafale a few days ago and from start facing situation in which I'm lock on target, pull the trigger but my MICAs not firing. What's the point?
@@asuchanowo But prev Mirage 5000 could! Seeker of MICA? I'm firing it from TWS radar mode. And what I have to do? Should I go direct to enemy? I'm trying to fire MICAs when target is almost on the side of my radar screen.
Every content creator: THE AMRAAM IS THE UNDISPUTED FOX3 KING (because it can do BVR slightly better than competition) *everybody likes that* Everybody when they realize the MICA EM is far better suited to the current meta, and it appears on a capable platform: fuck no we can't have that!
Can't wait for eurofighter get another nerf and rafale get another buff bc why not, rafale already has better missiles, more radar missiles, better radar, doesn't rip its wings, better high speed turn rate. What's next?
Hi sometimes the radar of the rafale stay stuck on acq mode it happens more frequently on the sides it makes the use of radar msl impossible since he can’t lock any targets like that . M I the only one with that issue?
That’s just a common issue I have in a lot of radars It can be easily fixed by just simply turning the radar off and then on again, then you will be in the normal mode again (like SRC PD, TWS, TWS HD, …) Same with the HMD sometimes, if you spam the lock button too often when trying to lock sth with HMD, it gets stuck in the HMD mode But then again, just turn off the radar and turn it on again
Good I was getting sick of guy hopping in custom battles in the eurofighter with their inflated egos calling people trash while they spawn kill in a jet far better than others.
@exonys3838 That's why wt will never be realistic with any fbw plane. And when they add it, these planes are losing to 3rd gens because there is also no airframe stress damage, so things like mig19 are not damaged by pulling sustained 9g. Also, the pilot would instantly pass out at 15g turn
So the Rafale is undisputedly the best plane in game. Literally better than the Eurofighter in any way. Short range, UFO Mica-EM, and it can carry 8 of them. Long range, the Eurofighter's Captor M is so useless good luck locking anything with TWS. The F-15E beats the eurofighter and rafale at long range, but the moment it gets close to either of them its just over
No, Rafale > EF2000 > F-15E/C Rafale = 4.5 gen but closer to a 5 gen , AESA radar (turns better than an F-22 for now), MICA missiles can engage at long range thanks to the Rafale's performance and has semi-stealth design. EF2000 = 4.5 gen, one of the most modern PD radars, capable of doing everything, should be semi-stealth like other 4.5 gens. F-15E = 4 gen, has a very very bad radar but excellent engines, weak in dogfighting capabilities as it was designed primarily for airstrikes.
😂😂 really these new aircraft just keep on getting buffed and still you cannot run a f-15e with cfts Plus missiles with extra fuel oh and by the way your your helmet mounted display only works if you have a heat seeker active ugh really can we fix the aircraft that you added before the new aircraft gets buffed please😂 although it sounds pretty cool because I'm almost to the refall and instead of it being nerfed before I get to it it gets buffed so I don't know how to act about that it's kind of weird😅
@@patriotic-panda No they wont, if they not add Su-37 premium, F-2A, Su-30SM, J-11B, J-16, F/A-18E, ARM's, AIM-9X, Meteor, ASRAAM, Indian subtree with Rafale, Su-30MKI, HAL Tejas in UK tree next update = they run out of money..
imagine a world where gaijin releases planes with their actual flight perf instead of fixing them bit by bit weeks after the updates
Well no more 15g turns, which I'm all for. Give all planes their limits
@iboopy-fl2icit's a good idea to add the g-limiter, but like in real life we should be able to remove the limiter
@@adrienadamczyk8129 only for a short time, and the longer u remove the limited wing spars get damaged or sum
Buff is Wrong Word more like a fix
_I understand it now_
"Fix" Eurofighter -> nerf Eurofighter
"Fix" Rafael -> buff Rafael
I think this is the most accurate comment. When we make such comments, we are labeled as “EF Fan” they think. No, we only want vehicles with real values.
Wow and they still havent fixed captor m radar. we gotta love it
as the RBE2 AESA...
@blindshoot3344at least the damn radar works
yeah sure Gaijin, fix every other vehicle apart from the Eurofighter.
Bro, they literally buffed the rafael twice and nerfed the eurofighter twice
Why does gaijin hate Germany and Italy so much??
because the real thing are like this
the rafale is indeed a lot better than almost any other plane
actually the Game was not ready to give the Rafale C F3 a proper balance. they should had go with another variant which offer a bit lower performance. such as the Rafale M
@@uriellima9193 Rafale M is just the Navy variant, they also use the same upgrades as the C (and same for the B), like F1, F2, F3, F3R like ingame, F4 and more.
Rafale M, C and B have all the same basic capability, the B is just a dual seat Rafale and the M got some modification for carrier landing and catapult takeoff, but they all can do the same things outside thoses big letter.
What define what they can do/their upgrades is the "Fx" that come after the name, that are like the block for F-16s.
And even if the M has a little more weight, especially thanks to the reinforced front gear, it's not going to change much in the game if it come also as a modern upgrade like the F3R.
The EF will probably still win the dogfight due to the advantage in terms of t2w but instead of buffing and nerfing flight models that pretty much only require fine tuning they should allocate their ressources towards fixing the Radar systems: the EF has a worse Radar than several cold war jets whilst the Rafale is still stuck with basically a mechanical Radar...
No the rafale can just get a lock and have the MICA-EM do all the work for it
Go check, the Rafale has the higher TWR after they nerfed EF's thrust.
@@warthundershowcasing8905 It does because the Rafale engines and air intakes are designed for subsonic and low supersonic speeds. EJ 200 only reaches its full potential at high mach speeds. Static thrust is not a good indicator. The Mirage 2000 has a better power to weight ration than the JAS 39 Gripen and F16A but it accelerates slower below mach because the M53 is an engine design to give its full potential at high mach. IRL Rafale never lost to an Eurofighter in a dogfight at low alt because the engines of the rafale are design to give their best at low alt and moderate speeds
@ Neither has a eurofighter lost to a rafale...
Now the Eurofighter needs it’s radar and thrust/weight buffed
Bullshit
@@sanmiguel4774I’m going to steal your television
@@sanmiguel4774have you seen how schizo that radar is? HMS doesn't lock half the time either.
@@sanmiguel4774not “bullshit” It’s way underperforming and the Captor-M has half the scan speed of its radar than a Tornado F.3
Yeah and the rafale needs to get its micas fixed so they can go further without shaking in air and get a real aesa radar
Buff to the Rafale?
Okay, nice.
Buff the F-15E again.
And buff the EF. Stop nerfing it.
Then everyone can be happy.
F15E doesn’t need a buff and the eurofighter only needs its radar and 2 circle performance fixed
Tbh i watched the video submitted its realistic💀
Still nothing for the Eurofighters radar, thrust, and supercruise ability
Rafale has better radar?
the eurofighter can supercruise in game
@@taj2332 Eurofighter still feels like it has a placeholder, the scanning rate is shite, and it locks primarily on chaff at any angle
@Jhunter2007 I know... that's why I said the rafale has a better radar
its kinda funny that the su30sm could be in the game rn and still not be top 3 in Air rb
If the fm is accurate it will be
Mechanical PESA, Thrust Vectoring
It’ll be a monster up close.
@ it would have amazing first turn for sure better than anyone, but this is air rb bleeding a bunch of speed on a flashy first turn just gets you killed.
@ even with an accurate fm air rb meta is based on reach dogfights are a last resort for most
@@keno5839They really could give it the r77-1 but then we would need better fox3 since it is reported to have similar range to an aim120C
Noice it reduces the risk of sekrit documents leak
Now reduce the energy loss of those damn MICAs, they barely reach 20 km.
Let's make more nerf for eurofighter for fix....
Ofc gajin is gonna buff an already over performing aircraft while aircraft like the midphoon, mig29, and flanker are underperforming and have other issues
midphoon? Like the literally best jet FM in the game right now?
Wah wah wah
MiG-29 and Su-27 underperforming i agreed.
But Midphoon, i disagree asf, the Typhoon still the Best fighter in the game, Rafale is just turning more by a little margen
@ yea but its radar is still bugged and it could turn a tab bit better tbh
@@F-14-W even better how? 19G not enough?
Lmao. These things were already physics destroyers. And apparently the buff is accurate to irl cus they used provided video evidence analysis on degrees per second
I just want my beloved Su-30SM
Yeaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Better nerf the Eurofighter more, just to be safe
everyone knew Rafale destroy eurofighter in manoeuvrability, it's no surprise
@@Zx17OPv57i but not in acceleration, plus both the Rafale and Eurofighter desperately need their radars buffed
@@Zx17OPv57i Only at Sea-Low level. Mid-High level, Eurofighter wins.
Also EF acceleration and top speed are under performing compared to real life.
Also, max possible flight ceiling is 54,000 and 42,000 sustained in game for Eurofighter... IRL it's FC is 65,000 and sustained 55,000.
Also, IRL Eurofighter Started with AIM-120C/4 and RAF EF Started with AIM-120C/5 and ASRAAMs.
Also, Captor is not working correctly.
Also, PIRATE is not working correctly.
@@Zx17OPv57i Tell me you're french without telling me you're french
@ it's just facts, rafale is more agile, not my problem if you cant deal with it and your are not happy with that
now i feel less bad first grinding out the rafale, although i now lost a lot of motivation to open the ef although i have 190k xp left
rafale turn better than 5gen like f22
Maybe that's accurate because the Rafale beat the F-22, there's a video that exists.
@@warthundershowcasing8905 i know
Question to Sim players. I bought Rafale a few days ago and from start facing situation in which I'm lock on target, pull the trigger but my MICAs not firing. What's the point?
Not a sim issue but a rafale issue the seeker doesnt turn on thus you cannot fire :3
@@asuchanowo But prev Mirage 5000 could! Seeker of MICA? I'm firing it from TWS radar mode.
And what I have to do? Should I go direct to enemy? I'm trying to fire MICAs when target is almost on the side of my radar screen.
I have the same issue
Your radar is likely turning on IRST automatically to maintain the lock which is an absolute pain in the ass
@@Null24 No, I'm using IRST only on MiG-23ML, but thanks for suggestion and will to help.
Every content creator: THE AMRAAM IS THE UNDISPUTED FOX3 KING (because it can do BVR slightly better than competition)
*everybody likes that*
Everybody when they realize the MICA EM is far better suited to the current meta, and it appears on a capable platform: fuck no we can't have that!
Can't wait for eurofighter get another nerf and rafale get another buff bc why not, rafale already has better missiles, more radar missiles, better radar, doesn't rip its wings, better high speed turn rate. What's next?
Not much difference, eurofighter still turns much better at any speed, IF you use full controls. And better energy retention ofcourse.
Brother in Christ at this rate if just get the Rafale now and leave my EF2000 in the hangar then
That's what Nations IRL do. They get the Rafale instead of the Eurofighter most of the time when the two types are not turbo outcast by the F35
You playing on ps5 right ?
Hi sometimes the radar of the rafale stay stuck on acq mode it happens more frequently on the sides it makes the use of radar msl impossible since he can’t lock any targets like that .
M I the only one with that issue?
That’s just a common issue I have in a lot of radars
It can be easily fixed by just simply turning the radar off and then on again, then you will be in the normal mode again (like SRC PD, TWS, TWS HD, …)
Same with the HMD sometimes, if you spam the lock button too often when trying to lock sth with HMD, it gets stuck in the HMD mode
But then again, just turn off the radar and turn it on again
This is a joke? Rafale again get buff?
would take more rip speed than more G turns.
That is why you were not consulted
Good I was getting sick of guy hopping in custom battles in the eurofighter with their inflated egos calling people trash while they spawn kill in a jet far better than others.
Yes another rafale buff, as if it wasent batshit unrealistic now its literraly an ac7 plane
German detected
Finally he is realistic
Yeah, "realistic" 15g pull xD
@ yeah because there is no limitator in WT
@exonys3838 That's why wt will never be realistic with any fbw plane. And when they add it, these planes are losing to 3rd gens because there is also no airframe stress damage, so things like mig19 are not damaged by pulling sustained 9g. Also, the pilot would instantly pass out at 15g turn
Is wing rip speed still messed up?
@ I think so sadly
So the Rafale is undisputedly the best plane in game. Literally better than the Eurofighter in any way. Short range, UFO Mica-EM, and it can carry 8 of them. Long range, the Eurofighter's Captor M is so useless good luck locking anything with TWS. The F-15E beats the eurofighter and rafale at long range, but the moment it gets close to either of them its just over
No, Rafale > EF2000 > F-15E/C
Rafale = 4.5 gen but closer to a 5 gen , AESA radar (turns better than an F-22 for now), MICA missiles can engage at long range thanks to the Rafale's performance and has semi-stealth design.
EF2000 = 4.5 gen, one of the most modern PD radars, capable of doing everything, should be semi-stealth like other 4.5 gens.
F-15E = 4 gen, has a very very bad radar but excellent engines, weak in dogfighting capabilities as it was designed primarily for airstrikes.
This is what happens when a minor nation is being treated somewhat fairly
@ There's no way you call the rafale fair....
@iboopy-fl2ic If it was accurate you would be crying even harder
@ In what way is the rafale fair and balanced? UFO missiles, best flight performance in game, best radar in game.
ok now give it 15.3 😂 just to be sure that's only rafals in battle
>Delta wing
>Energy retention ia a turn
HAHAHAHA, oh my, how they love NATO equipment.
when pure delta wings sustain energy much better than su27/mig29/f-16 💀
And nerf the captor m
Germany suffers, yet again
they gotta buff the eurofighter now PS: SNAIL GIVE ME MY MEOTEORS!
Then give them to the Rafale too, with iris-t, Mica IR and Mica NG
Meteors and IRIS-T
Why do they do this stuff
😂😂 really these new aircraft just keep on getting buffed and still you cannot run a f-15e with cfts Plus missiles with extra fuel oh and by the way your your helmet mounted display only works if you have a heat seeker active ugh really can we fix the aircraft that you added before the new aircraft gets buffed please😂 although it sounds pretty cool because I'm almost to the refall and instead of it being nerfed before I get to it it gets buffed so I don't know how to act about that it's kind of weird😅
We need Mig-25. It had a great history. How can gaijin avoid this plane?
It’s too fast for the snail
Its just fixed lol
as if it needs a buff.
F-35 was announced yesterday but... In DCS. Wake up Gaijin, you're fucked🤡🤣
Gaijin will be completely fine.
@@patriotic-panda No they wont, if they not add Su-37 premium, F-2A, Su-30SM, J-11B, J-16, F/A-18E, ARM's, AIM-9X, Meteor, ASRAAM, Indian subtree with Rafale, Su-30MKI, HAL Tejas in UK tree next update = they run out of money..
So? There's F22 in DCS as well. Having a more advanced and newer plane is not the criteria for determining the success of a game lmao
@@Lulzwhat Do you have proof of this
@@Keep3r1438 Proof of what? If you mean F-35 announce in DCS - check the last video on Eagle Dynamics channel.
First (pin please)