No way is this boring! Every moment spent with a horse is a learning/teaching/bonding opportunity. Groundwork is never wasted. Please. continue to share!
This horse has had a bad deal with his relationship with humans. No wonder his mind doesn't want to connect. Big change in a few minutes with Pat. I love watching this. Nice horse just wants some peace in his life.
I'm half Spanish and half American. Every time I watch here I feel like I offer my horses a better deal, so thanks. My mom was from Cordoba and I've had a chance to ask a few older horse people in the south about history of Andalusians (Cordoba is in the southern state of Andalusia). They say, that the Andalusian is essentially a cross between their native heavier warmblood (think native French and German horses) and the North African barb that was brought in by the moors (AD 711) when the reconquista ended in 1492 there was essentially no warmblood pureblood left but a smaller, nimble, intelligent horse that had been created by 700+ years of warfare. That mutt horse turned into a national breed and one of the finest cavalry mounts known to man.
Native breed such as the Sorraia? I know they say some kiger mustangs blood carry the same gene as the conquistadors horses.. I’ve read this gene is only found in Sorraia mustangs from the Iberian peninsula of which there is less than 200 registered in the world. Not sure how true this all is or if I screwed up regurgitating because I probably did lol. But I’ve read a whole lot on the Sorraia and have even contacted Hardy who is the head of the registry for further info he’s got some cool books too!
@@BigLoopHorsemanship Hi Manuel, The Sorraia horse is a small horse native to the Iberian penninsula that carries Dun factor. Like many ancient breeds do. Andalusians were bred for ease of color uniformity in breeding. That's why we see a lot of gray, chestnut, bay and black with no spotted and few dilutes or dun factored. That is changing though with modern breeding for color in the US. The thing that separates Andalusians/PREs from any other breed is that they naturally are built to lift themselves off the front end. Creating that conformation is a lesson in physics (angles of hind limb as a lever to lift the front- something the Sorraia doesn't have, nor the kiger mustang). Sadly, there are many breeding here in the US who select for characteristics that end up with horses heavy on the forehand, can travel flat, and not suitable for anything but perpetual second level dressage.
Just discovered you Pat and I’m so enjoying what I see. I desire a deeper connection with my horse and watching your videos will be another step towards better communication with him. My goal is to learn to be a good leader.
I tried this technique yesterday with a horse we have from a friend that hasn't been a trustworthy horse but isn't mean. He just hasn't known how to be around humans. I took the slower approach rather than just sticking him in the round pen and making him run off, I took more time built up some trust first then started him slowly. It worked like a charm.
Thank you for showing the time that it can take or might take or even longer take - not about the clock - about the horse!!! clouds going north a good mental place to go while waiting for the horse to find a place of peace in its mind - -the beauty of the missing link snaffle - take care!
Seriously Pat you’ve stepped it up, how wonderful this is. There’s so much to learn, this information is one of my favorites sooo much to take in ! Time for a BOOK. Great to see you enjoying your passion. God Bless
Pat I can’t thank you enough for all you’ve taught me. I feel so blessed to have found your videos. I provide equine therapy for women with Down syndrome . I was attacked by a client when I worked psych hospital. She left me disabled in my spine. Your teachings have allowed me to give therapy with my horses and even ride them again myself. I can’t thank you enough for all you teach us! Praying for your speedy recovery and continued blessings
Thank you Pat. A great presentation and explanation of the fine points of how you present your body to the horse. I have never seen anybody take the time to do this so thoroughly. When you explain this way the small picture light goes on for me so instead of "yelling" at my horse I may someday learn to "whisper" to it as it deserves.
I love what I am seeing. So often I work with horses who do the “mindless wandering”. You are offering a conversation based on the language of energy. This taps into the horses awareness, and from what I understand of Tom Dorrance’s teachings, this captures his mind. The way into the mind is through the feet. When the horse takes off in its mindless wander, you offer in this sequence : 1. Quietness and relaxation ( in your mind and body), then a step in front of his eye as a reminder that we are no longer wanting to move forward. The horse would prefer that you not block it , so eventually it beats you to the punch and meets you at the stop. I love it.
This IS fascinating! This is communication with a horse and education, not traditional horse slavery. Thank you for understanding that you have information that needs to be shared. You are elevating horsemanship and YOU have created a ripple that will improved the way people train and treat their horses for generations to come. Thank you ( from us in North Texas) and please keep talking.
I am working with an OTTB 14 years old. He also has a chunk of his tongue missing on the same side. Thank you for telling me what this horse is thinking. Often times they check out mentally. I have had my horse for 2 years and have worked with him on the ground. He has given me some of his trust, but I would like to work with him off my hand instead of a flag. I will be watching. I need your help. From Iowa.
Wow Pat you are amazing. Tough old cowboy is an understatement. This world does not have enough people like you. Glad to see you are doing good. I have a small ranch in Eastern Utah Love you channel
thank you so much for sharing your wisdom, lots of humans will be so mcu more gentle and observing with their horses and the horses will be better understood
Hi Patt, Watched this , you commented this is the next level. Possibly the first time I disagree with you. This should be the first level. Understanding the horse and being a fair leader. How many people including me have got a new horse and the first thing they do is run it around in circles on the end of a rope trying to dominate the animal developing fear and resentment from day one . Doing what you are doing in this video is a foundation. It should be a light bulb moment for any horse owner that sees this. Well on the way to a willing partner here. Great video great work.
May God continue to Bless you as you keep healing. I love being able to watch videos and keep learning and adding to my horsemanship. Was such a delight to have met you in Tucson and been able to learn from you in the clinic. Thank you so much for all you share with us about horses and the how and why’s so helpful 🥰
Outstanding. The parallel logic ground to saddle with the absolute minimal action for reaction to make the connections necessary to relate and respond and ultimately partner is just perfect in this language and confidence build.
Have always loved my thoroughbred crosses. I look forward to this new training series / chapter! We enjoyed and been using your methods and bit for a year now on our good quarter horse geldings who we thought were well trained until we began to work them your way. We now have relationships and understanding and much more response from them thanks to you.
Hi Pat. Been following you for a while and enjoy your channel . the Morgan horse came from Quebec . That Quebec horse is the “Canadien Horse” of today (Canadien French spelling ) also known as the little iron horse. Take care. John Hodgson. Apple Hill Ontario, Canada.
Glad to see your injury has not slowed you down and that your recovery is going well! Thanks for the insightful video, and it sure wasn’t boring if a person wants to know more about communicating with a horse in a more effective way.
Hey sorry about your neck, I have no idea what happened but I have to tell ya, after coming across this video seeing a man in a training video with a horse in a neck brace. I nearly choked on my soda it struck me so funny!!! Really hope you’re ok!
This was like watching a dance. The development of communication between horse and "rider". Simply enjoyable to be able to observe this basic but ever so important process. Thank you
I always learn so much from your videos. I’m always trying to improve my horsemanship to do right by the horses I work with and the horses I own. Thank you so much & god bless
This is a great presentation, I can see how lunging can lead to resentment and a dullness in the horse and trainers mind. What we see here is a more calculated way to communicate. I enjoy this video and listening of the cricket work. Andres from vaca
Pat, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. Its awesome to watch how you are guiding him to allow himself to be more relaxed. I liked the comment about a good work horse will reach for the bit. My horse Sugar does exactly that... so that's good know. Thx again - Rick.
Pat made my trip out to NM for branding week a success. From knowing the rules while in the saddle and on the ground to asking the ranch boss where to sit for meals. I have a question. Where can I find a cricket bit for my horse and my daughter's pony? Snaffles both. Thanks for the teaching, both the mode and the information. C
I have a horse that is horrible about taking a bit. I had him since he was 2. 7 now even some issues about putting a Hackamore on till he was rode down some. He is a thorobred also. Going to try your bit on him from now on.
I didn’t know what you were referring to when you and Pat talked about crickets. In a recent video about bits I saw a barrel on the cross piece of the bit. I believe this is the crickets?
@@ronaldbrunker7288 Here's a link to our website: www.thedisciplinedride.com/store/missing-link-snaffle And a playlist on the Missing Link Snaffle: ua-cam.com/play/PLqolZu7D-bMOITvf8dN1RmjpcHec_a_3a.html&si=m1LxRN_au01e7cg3
I have been wondering for a couple of years now since I got this horse the best way to help them get over cut tongue I discovered a bad scar on her tongue after I got her I had been using a snaffle on her at first but she was a little fussy so I switched to a hackamore and that's what I've been using since I discovered the scar any advice would be helpful thank you
Yes you're probably right I'm just scared to put anything in her mouth because when I discovered it I had a cow on the end of my rope and I was pulling away and she came over backwards
My horse is 13 she was a barrel horse for the last owner I have had her for 1 year just trail riding but recently she has bucked me off once and tear me off both times going up a hill if you have any ideas that my help me
As far as i know « andalusian » horses nowadays are quite different from the one in the 16th century. Today Andalusian is much bigger because of the amount of German blood due to the influence of Charles Quint - Germain Guy that became king of Spain 😅 in the 16th century Spain was just getting out of 800 years of présence and influence of the People from North Africa - the Maures, and Arabian. The Maures’s culture spread all over Spain and further in Europe like in France. This time was a great time of exchanges in the culture matters and others many things, such as horses. So the Maures brought to Spain and Europe great horses from North Africa: barbs horses. As far as I know “barb” means barbarian or stranger. Those horses then may have melted with local Spanish horses and then traveled to America with the conquistadores. In Spanish “horse rider” is called “jinete”. As a matter of fact, one of the biggest tribes of North Africa “invaders “ in the 6th century were the “zinete”… so I guess it shows that the world we are living in is just a big turning wheel that goes on …
People who breed Canadian horses like to claim that Morgans came from Canada. People who breed Welsh Section D Cobs like to claim that there's evidence of a Welsh Cob stallion going to Vermont at exactly the right time in history. Having owned and bred both Morgans and Welsh, I can see a strong resemblance between them. The famous statue of the original Morgan looks exactly like a Cob. But I wasn't in Vermont back then, so I don't actually know.
That is one version of the Morgan horse. The original Morgan was a foal believed to have been by True Briton a thoroughbred stallion and out of a (possibly) Arabian mare. The foal, which was taken in by the school master, Justin Morgan, after the death of a relative was a genetic sport and called Figure. He was able to produce horses that looked and acted like him no matter the mare he was bred to. He was later admired for his great disposition, hardy great soundness and health, speed and endurance. His three most famous sons, Blackhawk, Sherman and Bulrush are the foundation of much of the breed today. The Morgan is used for just about anything you want to do with them, from great working horses to fancy show horses. A number of World Champion Carriage Driving and Combined Driving horses are Morgans. My husband uses them in the feedlot and working cattle here at home. We have also showed in nearly every division at the Grand National and World Championship Show in OKC. This with the horses from our own Greentree Ranch Morgans breeding program started in 1963. More information is easily available at www.Morganhorse.com
I will add my thoughts on morgans. The Québécois settlements were farther along than the NE states. Today we forget about ships, ice and movement of goods including horses. Pretty easy trip of good traveling down lake Champlain in Vermont to the St Lawrence. Movement of good on ice in winter is easy and fast. People who live in border towns care little for the king or queen of the day. Work Trade marriage church socials all go on with little regard for border. Border used to be a little fuzzy. If you wanted a horse in colonial times in New England you could pay for one from across the pond (Europe) or get one from the St Lawrence farms. St Lawrence horse would still be cheaper today. Canadian chunks have twitched a lot of wood and made by furrows in New England ground. Justin Morgan the stallion as CeCe above described crossed well with local stock which likely contained a high percentage of Canadian blood. Horses from both breeds can look very similar Keep in mind in later year Canadians (breed of Horse ) some effort were made to increase size for work. Review timelines in Wikipedia. Many coastal people in Maine, Nova Scotia, St Lawrence were not opposed to smuggling to help ends meet. Horses Oxen were high value trade goods. One item to not is the civil war and westward expansion decimated local stock VermontNew England and St Lawrence stock. Not earlier writers of the Morgan horse seemed opposed to any Canadian influence. New nation like to think they developed everything. In the world of horses every breed is a blend of some type. Throw your saddle or harness on the the soundest, best trained, suitable for the work you do for the money you can spend on it. 🙂 Humans have been doing this for all of recorded history. Personally, I like a good Morgan, Canadian, or Polish Arabian as horses of a type that please me. We each Get to chose our Horse Pat keep one leg on either side of the horse.
No way is this boring! Every moment spent with a horse is a learning/teaching/bonding opportunity.
Groundwork is never wasted. Please. continue to share!
Videos like this give me so much motivation to keep doing what I'm doing. Speaking horse is no joke and this guy is fluent
Thank you for your generosity to teach us who did not grow up with horses. You are your wife are so kind.
This horse has had a bad deal with his relationship with humans. No wonder his mind doesn't want to connect. Big change in a few minutes with Pat. I love watching this. Nice horse just wants some peace in his life.
Wow, Pat and Deb always amaze with their knowledge and willingness to share with everybody.
I'm half Spanish and half American. Every time I watch here I feel like I offer my horses a better deal, so thanks. My mom was from Cordoba and I've had a chance to ask a few older horse people in the south about history of Andalusians (Cordoba is in the southern state of Andalusia). They say, that the Andalusian is essentially a cross between their native heavier warmblood (think native French and German horses) and the North African barb that was brought in by the moors (AD 711) when the reconquista ended in 1492 there was essentially no warmblood pureblood left but a smaller, nimble, intelligent horse that had been created by 700+ years of warfare. That mutt horse turned into a national breed and one of the finest cavalry mounts known to man.
Native breed such as the Sorraia? I know they say some kiger mustangs blood carry the same gene as the conquistadors horses.. I’ve read this gene is only found in Sorraia mustangs from the Iberian peninsula of which there is less than 200 registered in the world. Not sure how true this all is or if I screwed up regurgitating because I probably did lol. But I’ve read a whole lot on the Sorraia and have even contacted Hardy who is the head of the registry for further info he’s got some cool books too!
@@BigLoopHorsemanship Hi Manuel, The Sorraia horse is a small horse native to the Iberian penninsula that carries Dun factor. Like many ancient breeds do. Andalusians were bred for ease of color uniformity in breeding. That's why we see a lot of gray, chestnut, bay and black with no spotted and few dilutes or dun factored. That is changing though with modern breeding for color in the US. The thing that separates Andalusians/PREs from any other breed is that they naturally are built to lift themselves off the front end. Creating that conformation is a lesson in physics (angles of hind limb as a lever to lift the front- something the Sorraia doesn't have, nor the kiger mustang). Sadly, there are many breeding here in the US who select for characteristics that end up with horses heavy on the forehand, can travel flat, and not suitable for anything but perpetual second level dressage.
Pat I’m sure glad to see you up and working. I sure hope you’re healing well and doing good.
Pat is one of the best horseman, period!
Just discovered you Pat and I’m so enjoying what I see. I desire a deeper connection with my horse and watching your videos will be another step towards better communication with him. My goal is to learn to be a good leader.
I tried this technique yesterday with a horse we have from a friend that hasn't been a trustworthy horse but isn't mean. He just hasn't known how to be around humans. I took the slower approach rather than just sticking him in the round pen and making him run off, I took more time built up some trust first then started him slowly. It worked like a charm.
Smooth & relaxed. I love watching you work Pat and I'm improving because of what you show us. Thanks!
Thank you for showing the time that it can take or might take or even longer take - not about the clock - about the horse!!! clouds going north a good mental place to go while waiting for the horse to find a place of peace in its mind - -the beauty of the missing link snaffle - take care!
Put you to sleep?! Not likely! Great stuff and a beautiful process to watch. Thanks Pat as always!
Seriously Pat you’ve stepped it up, how wonderful this is. There’s so much to learn, this information is one of my favorites sooo much to take in ! Time for a BOOK. Great to see you enjoying your passion. God Bless
Pat I can’t thank you enough for all you’ve taught me. I feel so blessed to have found your videos. I provide equine therapy for women with Down syndrome . I was attacked by a client when I worked psych hospital. She left me disabled in my spine. Your teachings have allowed me to give therapy with my horses and even ride them again myself. I can’t thank you enough for all you teach us! Praying for your speedy recovery and continued blessings
This is probably one of the most informative video you've done, tying feet movement to mind to ears to you. Thanks.
Had a extra GREAT day today on/with my horse because what you teach works!
Please keep sharing "every little thing"!
Glad you are doing it. Your the only one who can explain and will explain it. Most make it a god like experience. You give us the how and why.
Thank you Pat. A great presentation and explanation of the fine points of how you present your body to the horse. I have never seen anybody take the time to do this so thoroughly. When you explain this way the small picture light goes on for me so instead of "yelling" at my horse I may someday learn to "whisper" to it as it deserves.
I love what I am seeing. So often I work with horses who do the “mindless wandering”. You are offering a conversation based on the language of energy. This taps into the horses awareness, and from what I understand of Tom Dorrance’s teachings, this captures his mind. The way into the mind is through the feet. When the horse takes off in its mindless wander, you offer in this sequence : 1. Quietness and relaxation ( in your mind and body), then a step in front of his eye as a reminder that we are no longer wanting to move forward. The horse would prefer that you not block it , so eventually it beats you to the punch and meets you at the stop. I love it.
Excellent video! I’m excited about this new series and you sharing all of your wonderful knowledge! You’re the best!
This IS fascinating! This is communication with a horse and education, not traditional horse slavery. Thank you for understanding that you have information that needs to be shared. You are elevating horsemanship and YOU have created a ripple that will improved the way people train and treat their horses for generations to come. Thank you ( from us in North Texas) and please keep talking.
I am working with an OTTB 14 years old. He also has a chunk of his tongue missing on the same side. Thank you for telling me what this horse is thinking. Often times they check out mentally.
I have had my horse for 2 years and have worked with him on the ground. He has given me some of his trust, but I would like to work with him off my hand instead of a flag. I will be watching. I need your help. From Iowa.
We are glad you are still with us and able to pass on your knowledge.
Actually this is keeping me awake 🤠 Yee Haw!
Wow Pat you are amazing. Tough old cowboy is an understatement. This world does not have enough people like you. Glad to see you are doing good. I have a small ranch in Eastern Utah Love you channel
thank you so much for sharing your wisdom, lots of humans will be so mcu more gentle and observing with their horses and the horses will be better understood
Hi Patt,
Watched this , you commented this is the next level. Possibly the first time I disagree with you. This should be the first level. Understanding the horse and being a fair leader. How many people including me have got a new horse and the first thing they do is run it around in circles on the end of a rope trying to dominate the animal developing fear and resentment from day one . Doing what you are doing in this video is a foundation. It should be a light bulb moment for any horse owner that sees this. Well on the way to a willing partner here. Great video great work.
My brother , doc hammill, from Montana, texted me to let me know that you had been injured, I hope you have a complete recovery. Kal
Not putting me to sleep.
Keep it on Pat!
from BC Canada.
Another great video full of good information. Thank you Pat.
My horse is very calm in the round pen and respectful thanks to this video
Your knowledge and wisdom is amazing. I'm learning so much listening to you. I am grateful!!
Very very nice, keep going, please, we will follow you!!!
Half way through it and this is so Excellent.. Thank you! This is a great gift for me and others.
Just got all the way through it. It gets even better. Thanks again and speedy recovery to you.
May God continue to Bless you as you keep healing.
I love being able to watch videos and keep learning and adding to my horsemanship. Was such a delight to have met you in Tucson and been able to learn from you in the clinic. Thank you so much for all you share with us about horses and the how and why’s so helpful 🥰
It's so good to see you up and about, and I also really enjoy watching you work with Handsome. You are a true craftsman, sir.
This might be the most informative and educational video you’ve ever done ,bravo pat
Outstanding. The parallel logic ground to saddle with the absolute minimal action for reaction to make the connections necessary to relate and respond and ultimately partner is just perfect in this language and confidence build.
Have always loved my thoroughbred crosses. I look forward to this new training series / chapter! We enjoyed and been using your methods and bit for a year now on our good quarter horse geldings who we thought were well trained until we began to work them your way. We now have relationships and understanding and much more response from them thanks to you.
Pat thanks for caring I want to know ~ this is the kindest gift.
Very interesting. This is a whole new idea of groundwork for me and I’m trying my best to learn it.
Thank you for putting words to it
Hi Pat. Been following you for a while and enjoy your channel . the Morgan horse came from Quebec . That Quebec horse is the “Canadien Horse” of today (Canadien French spelling ) also known as the little iron horse. Take care. John Hodgson. Apple Hill Ontario, Canada.
Glad to see your injury has not slowed you down and that your recovery is going well! Thanks for the insightful video, and it sure wasn’t boring if a person wants to know more about communicating with a horse in a more effective way.
Brilliant! Thank you so much for sharing tjis process!
Perfect Friday night with a video from y'all. Thanks!!
Nicely done, sir. Well presented. Thank you.
Love watching a Master…. thanks
Cool 😎
The mountains ⛰😍❤
Hey sorry about your neck, I have no idea what happened but I have to tell ya, after coming across this video seeing a man in a training video with a horse in a neck brace. I nearly choked on my soda it struck me so funny!!! Really hope you’re ok!
I'm interested, keep going, good stuff
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. The horses thank you too :)
This was like watching a dance. The development of communication between horse and "rider". Simply enjoyable to be able to observe this basic but ever so important process. Thank you
Just needs someone to hear it ❤️
I always learn so much from your videos. I’m always trying to improve my horsemanship to do right by the horses I work with and the horses I own. Thank you so much & god bless
Thank you so much!!
This is a great presentation, I can see how lunging can lead to resentment and a dullness in the horse and trainers mind. What we see here is a more calculated way to communicate. I enjoy this video and listening of the cricket work. Andres from vaca
Another nice video, Pat. Thanks for the information and the demonstration of your techniques.
Thank you for sharing and have a nice safe day!!
Pat, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. Its awesome to watch how you are guiding him to allow himself to be more relaxed. I liked the comment about a good work horse will reach for the bit. My horse Sugar does exactly that... so that's good know. Thx again - Rick.
mighty fine job.
If this information doesn't interest you, you will never be a horseman/woman. This is where it all starts. Thanks Pat and Deb.
Pat made my trip out to NM for branding week a success. From knowing the rules while in the saddle and on the ground to asking the ranch boss where to sit for meals. I have a question. Where can I find a cricket bit for my horse and my daughter's pony? Snaffles both. Thanks for the teaching, both the mode and the information. C
Here’s the link to our online store:
www.thedisciplinedride.com/store
I have a horse that is horrible about taking a bit. I had him since he was 2. 7 now even some issues about putting a Hackamore on till he was rode down some. He is a thorobred also. Going to try your bit on him from now on.
So glad you are still here. ❤
Make sure to salt the bit first. It will help him want to take the bit.
I am fairly new to watching your videos, and I would like some more info on the cricket.
You’re going to have to be more specific. Are you talking about the bit or the cricket itself?
I didn’t know what you were referring to when you and Pat talked about crickets. In a recent video about bits I saw a barrel on the cross piece of the bit. I believe this is the crickets?
@@ronaldbrunker7288 Here's a link to our website:
www.thedisciplinedride.com/store/missing-link-snaffle
And a playlist on the Missing Link Snaffle:
ua-cam.com/play/PLqolZu7D-bMOITvf8dN1RmjpcHec_a_3a.html&si=m1LxRN_au01e7cg3
I have been wondering for a couple of years now since I got this horse the best way to help them get over cut tongue I discovered a bad scar on her tongue after I got her I had been using a snaffle on her at first but she was a little fussy so I switched to a hackamore and that's what I've been using since I discovered the scar any advice would be helpful thank you
We are using our Missing Link Snaffle on Handsome. It was likely a broken Snaffle that cut the horse’s tongue in the first place.
Yes you're probably right I'm just scared to put anything in her mouth because when I discovered it I had a cow on the end of my rope and I was pulling away and she came over backwards
She has been working fine with the Hackamore and I've been using her treating cows out on the lease
I forgot to tell you I think you want to know I live Southern Alberta Canada
We who care care more than words .
My horse is 13 she was a barrel horse for the last owner I have had her for 1 year just trail riding but recently she has bucked me off once and tear me off both times going up a hill if you have any ideas that my help me
Teach your horse the one rein stop and never let her get out of a walk when going up a hill:
ua-cam.com/video/ECyhsfW6lDk/v-deo.html
Looks like he may have been in some sort of wreck, left shoulder area.. might also be a reason for low confidence when he's outside...
As far as i know « andalusian » horses nowadays are quite different from the one in the 16th century. Today Andalusian is much bigger because of the amount of German blood due to the influence of Charles Quint - Germain Guy that became king of Spain 😅 in the 16th century Spain was just getting out of 800 years of présence and influence of the People from North Africa - the Maures, and Arabian. The Maures’s culture spread all over Spain and further in Europe like in France. This time was a great time of exchanges in the culture matters and others many things, such as horses. So the Maures brought to Spain and Europe great horses from North Africa: barbs horses. As far as I know “barb” means barbarian or stranger. Those horses then may have melted with local Spanish horses and then traveled to America with the conquistadores. In Spanish “horse rider” is called “jinete”. As a matter of fact, one of the biggest tribes of North Africa “invaders “ in the 6th century were the “zinete”… so I guess it shows that the world we are living in is just a big turning wheel that goes on …
Botswana is just north of Dallas? lolwut?
If this is an off the track TB, communication isn't given much emphasis. They're not taught the finer points.
People who breed Canadian horses like to claim that Morgans came from Canada.
People who breed Welsh Section D Cobs like to claim that there's evidence of a Welsh Cob stallion going to Vermont at exactly the right time in history. Having owned and bred both Morgans and Welsh, I can see a strong resemblance between them. The famous statue of the original Morgan looks exactly like a Cob. But I wasn't in Vermont back then, so I don't actually know.
That is one version of the Morgan horse. The original Morgan was a foal believed to have been by True Briton a thoroughbred stallion and out of a (possibly) Arabian mare. The foal, which was taken in by the school master, Justin Morgan, after the death of a relative was a genetic sport and called Figure. He was able to produce horses that looked and acted like him no matter the mare he was bred to. He was later admired for his great disposition, hardy great soundness and health, speed and endurance. His three most famous sons, Blackhawk, Sherman and Bulrush are the foundation of much of the breed today. The Morgan is used for just about anything you want to do with them, from great working horses to fancy show horses. A number of World Champion Carriage Driving and Combined Driving horses are Morgans. My husband uses them in the feedlot and working cattle here at home. We have also showed in nearly every division at the Grand National and World Championship Show in OKC. This with the horses from our own Greentree Ranch Morgans breeding program started in 1963. More information is easily available at www.Morganhorse.com
Cece is correct. On this version.
I will add my thoughts on morgans. The Québécois settlements were farther along than the NE states. Today we forget about ships, ice and movement of goods including horses. Pretty easy trip of good traveling down lake Champlain in Vermont to the St Lawrence. Movement of good on ice in winter is easy and fast. People who live in border towns care little for the king or queen of the day. Work Trade marriage church socials all go on with little regard for border. Border used to be a little fuzzy. If you wanted a horse in colonial times in New England you could pay for one from across the pond (Europe) or get one from the St Lawrence farms. St Lawrence horse would still be cheaper today. Canadian chunks have twitched a lot of wood and made by furrows in New England ground. Justin Morgan the stallion as CeCe above described crossed well with local stock which likely contained a high percentage of Canadian blood. Horses from both breeds can look very similar Keep in mind in later year Canadians (breed of Horse ) some effort were made to increase size for work. Review timelines in Wikipedia. Many coastal people in Maine, Nova Scotia, St Lawrence were not opposed to smuggling to help ends meet. Horses Oxen were high value trade goods.
One item to not is the civil war and westward expansion decimated local stock VermontNew England and St Lawrence stock. Not earlier writers of the Morgan horse seemed opposed to any Canadian influence. New nation like to think they developed everything. In the world of horses every breed is a blend of some type.
Throw your saddle or harness on the the soundest, best trained, suitable for the work you do for the money you can spend on it. 🙂
Humans have been doing this for all of recorded history.
Personally, I like a good Morgan, Canadian, or Polish Arabian as horses of a type that please me.
We each Get to chose our Horse
Pat keep one leg on either side of the horse.