@@Nikole36sp i'd assume that it was trained in case someone got into the temple of the black egg and tried to release the radience from him so he could fight back That kinda leaves me to wonder how the other vessels learned how to use nails
I love how when the hollow knight screams, you can hear the radiance scream, but when the pure vessel screams there is no sound, truly representing "no voice to cry suffering"
@@hollownora2818 Yup it is a real pure vessel doesnt actually exist the truth was that pale king was just some idiot because every vessel that even moves already has some sort of will
@@PrizMatex I remember when i finished the game for the first time without knowing the lore and the hollow knight still manage to effect me from sound track to the atmosphere and them stabbing themselves and the pure vessel fight make the fight even sadder seeing how the Rediance made them weaker
@@thereisnoacounthere489 yeah I remember beating the hollow knight in my second try and the moment they stabbed themselves I know there's something going on
"Empty vessel" Ehud haber Born of god. Born of void. Devoid of soul. Now lost to fog. Hear him scream . Hear him yell. No mind to think. No voice to tell. No will to break. No soul to want. No heart to yearn. Now forced to haunt. Do not think. Do not sink. Do not speak. Do not weep. Show no pain. Show no fear. For the king. You must adhere. No voice to scream. No tears to cry. Drawing closer to the light. With nothing in its empty eye. Way up above. sleeps the chosen "pure knight". The only one spared, Was the one with no mind. Insides glow bright. With chains shut tight. For now you fight. The hollow knight. For the kingdom. All shall hail. You are the vessel. Do not fail.
Pure Vessel might be my favourite fight in the entire game. The fast-paced action and clear indicators for each attack mixed with the spacing of the arena and the general aesthetic easily make it a candidate for my favourite boss fight in any video game.
@@PrizMatex imagine the other vessels they was thrown away cuz they had emotions! They was sent to death because they didnt born like how their father wanted them!
@@octoegg1936 Hollow knight was close to not have them he pressurized his emotion with will! The only thing made him have an emotion is his love for his father...
The Hollow Knight was so close to becoming the perfect vessel that, ironically, his undoing was the very thought/emotion of wanting to become a perfect vessel to make their Dad proud. Damn, HK has one of the most tragic ironies in video game history.
Agree ,The guy needs therapy and a hug imagine stuck in isolation for years and a angry goddess is in your head using you as a puppet, i just hope the hollow knight is alive in silksong if the god master ending is canon
Once I was playing the boss fight and my friend was looking the fight (but mainly playing clash Royale) and then he just looked the screen in the moment tat the hollow knight started stabbing himself and he was like “what the hell is going on here!?”
The boss is even sadder when you realize you can't save it,you dream nail it, it doesnt give soul or dream dialog, showing the hollow knight is a bubble, just waiting to burst like an infection filled balloon.
It’s really cool that when the pure vessel screams there is no sound but when the hollow knight screams it is a deafening roar symbolizing that the hollow knight is not the perfect vessel
No Cost Too Great... No Mind to Think... No Will to Break... No Voice to Cry Suffering... Born of God and Void... Do not Think... Do not Hope... Do not...
One thing I love about the hollow knight is that your technically not fighting the pure vessel, your fighting the radiance controlling the pure vessel, whenever the hollow knight gets the oppurtunity to, he stabs himself, it just shows the trust he has in you, Although he is "hollow" he still has feelings, like trust.
It’s sad that it was the Hollow Knight’s love for his father that the events of Hollow Knight happened. It’s the cutscene at the end of Path of Pain that caused the events of Hollow Knight to happen. The Pale King showed his son the slight bit of love, and the Hollow Knight wanted to do all it could to do what its father wanted.
The ghost steped back from the hollow knight. The radiences corruption vanished. What stood as the ghost was something far more frightening. It was a body of living shadow. Bearing a nail seething in energy,with 2 eyes...one white. One orange. Light and shadow in one being. Neither overtaking. "What...did you do?" Hornet asked the ghost. The ghost turned to her. "We ended our brothers pain." The ghost spoke at last. Tho it was more like sevral voices speaking at once...the broken vessels and ghost. The creature went to the hollow knight,and shadow engulfed his missing arm,creating an arm of pure void. "...What happens now then?" "I want to end my siblings pain. Its long time for us to rest. Theres no more constant light and no more constant dark. Do what you will...and take care of him..." The ghost said alone,its voice almost cracking. Hornet nodded. "You have my word. Though i dont know how much of this place still remains.." The knight vanished into the shadows...leaving the 2 siblings alone. Alive. Free... Hollow knight ending:Dusk.
Imagine if this is how it went down (Taking down radiance via dream nailing sealed vessel), you took down base vessel and did godhome up to the second to last pantheon (not doing 5th pantheon) and you have to go through and fight sealed and pure vessel to get more lore around pale king and vessel's relationship only to fight a semi godhome radiance with a more emotional version of the radiance fight with a more emotional theme (maybe through in some sealed vessel/pure vessel melodies in there)
Ningún costo es demasiado alto No Importa pensar No hay voluntad de romper No hay voz para llorar de sufrmiento Nacido de un dios y el vacio Sellaras la luz cegadora qué pagla tus sueños Tu eres el recipiente Eres el Hollow Knight.
IS THE HOLLOW KNIGHTS BOSSS BATTLE SYNCED TO THE MUSIC, CUS EVERTIME I FIGHT IT OR SOMEONE ELSE DOES, WHEN THE MUSIC GETS SAD IT STARTS STABBING ITSELF
The pale king's plan was perfect but he was too soft with The hollow knight, making him create a bond with his fathercall it cruel, but if he did want this plan to succed he shouldve never knew him
A shell, no longer the perfect mindless vessel father had wanted. Even before his passing, father couldn’t stop the corruption bound to come when he had defied the radiance. What a pathetic waste. All. My. Siblings. Fallen at father’s hands. Some lost to the Radiance’s might. God, all of us, defied and thrown to the abyss. We were wasted. It takes all my might to stop me from giving in to anger and sending this “Hollow Knight” to the abyss himself to see how we felt. Let the shades of the fallen take him. Show him what had come of his siblings. What could have come of them.
that seems to be so little time ago, I subscribed shortly before that, and then FNF happened. I love that game, but I still hope you'll make some HK content again. it was really nice
Until now I had no idea that he was stabbing himself to rid him of the infection. I thought he was farting to be honest and it was a joke by TeamCherry. 😂
The hollow knight, the Knight and every other vessel had a will, the will to carry the burden of the hollownest, their sacrifice alone could not save hollownest, but a weak Knight, he who crawled out of the abyss to the unknown, fought the failed champion, The White defender, the lost kin, the mantis Lords and any other being that stood in his way, no being could stop him, not the lord's of the mantis, no the leader of the mad mantis, not the tyrant that lived in the soul sanctum, not even the hollow knight itself , the Knight raises his blade against a god, a god that caused all this, a god he and his fallen brethren slayed. The dreamers , the Pale king and every vessel and many more, through their sacrafice Hollownest lasts eternal
Instead of having called him "father?" I would have called the final fight "brother?" since the Pure Vessel or the Hollow Knight is the brother, so to speak, of the protagonist and the father of the two is the Pale King, xddd piece of history but it was a good fight against the Pure Vessel
@@marielosvindas1247 I know but it's weird that one of your siblings is bigger then your father and also the game's lore is kinda depressing even if little Ghost doesn't talk at all. The cutscenes tell you everything
When the infection was spreading in the simple bugs of hallownest, the pale king came up with a solution that could contain the virus. In the abyss it was full of complete void. A being that had no feeling, no mind, no voice and didn’t serve a god. Him and the white lady had millions of hollow knights. But he threw them all into the abyss. When one could climb out and prove that it was completely hollow and devoid of any emotion, it would be raised in royalty, trained with a nail and eventually sealed away in the black egg to writhe with the infection for all eternity. It is very much a sad story. So to answer your question, the hollow knight is your brother, but it isn’t technically older or younger.
I never realized this until now but the handle-like decorations on his armor’s shoulders are actually attachments to tie the chains on him
Holy sh
Huh, me either good find
It’s not armor it’s more so restraints that’s why pure vessel breaks them as soon as possible
I like that detail because it makes you understand that the hollow knight was trained only to be chained up and contain the radiance
@@Nikole36sp i'd assume that it was trained in case someone got into the temple of the black egg and tried to release the radience from him so he could fight back
That kinda leaves me to wonder how the other vessels learned how to use nails
I love how when the hollow knight screams, you can hear the radiance scream, but when the pure vessel screams there is no sound, truly representing "no voice to cry suffering"
@@pichu7856 But isn’t Pure Vessel just THK before having the radiance sealed in it?
@@hollownora2818 yea it's like in its prime years
@@hollownora2818 Yup it is
a real pure vessel doesnt actually exist the truth was that pale king was just some idiot because every vessel that even moves already has some sort of will
nah it's the one singing the theme.
@@blossomnosleep I’m pretty sure Pure Vessel was actually pure until it started to have a bond with its father
The hollow knight / pure vessel is the perfect example of how to make a tragic boss fight without saying a single word
IKR. From the music and the stabbing you can tell he has been through nothing more than pain and suffering.
@@PrizMatex I remember when i finished the game for the first time without knowing the lore and the hollow knight still manage to effect me from sound track to the atmosphere and them stabbing themselves and the pure vessel fight make the fight even sadder seeing how the Rediance made them weaker
Yes because its even a bit easy compares to other bossfights, at least for me
@@thereisnoacounthere489 yeah I remember beating the hollow knight in my second try and the moment they stabbed themselves I know there's something going on
@@mohamednail1707 gwyn
“...Father?” that one line makes this even sadder
The hollow knight fight was so god damn sad and depressing, they failed for loving their father and wanting to make him proud
he’s big brother, don’t father
"Empty vessel"
Ehud haber
Born of god.
Born of void.
Devoid of soul.
Now lost to fog.
Hear him scream .
Hear him yell.
No mind to think.
No voice to tell.
No will to break.
No soul to want.
No heart to yearn.
Now forced to haunt.
Do not think.
Do not sink.
Do not speak.
Do not weep.
Show no pain.
Show no fear.
For the king.
You must adhere.
No voice to scream.
No tears to cry.
Drawing closer to the light.
With nothing in its empty eye.
Way up above.
sleeps the chosen "pure knight".
The only one spared,
Was the one with no mind.
Insides glow bright.
With chains shut tight.
For now you fight.
The hollow knight.
For the kingdom.
All shall hail.
You are the vessel.
Do not fail.
Post-Pure Vessel fight cutscene: "This one's all yours, little brother. Do what we never could, for all our sakes... and destroy her."
I like to think that when Pure Vessel "says" do not he was about to say "do not love" since he wants to make his father proud
I’ve also heard the theory that it was about to say “Do not fail” but stopped itself because that drive to succeed wouldn’t make it hollow
Thats will be secret, forever!
@@the711devin4 Or… just literally “do not”. As in do nothing. Get infected? Just don’t? Sneeze? Just don’t. Want to do something? Just don’t.
3:24
“Ahhh… you were by my side all along… my true brother. My soul’s guiding light!”
Ludwig, the accursed?
@@guru_do_estilo7902 No, Ludwig, The Holy Blade.
@@Kent_D_Nur nice one
Goosebumps, truly a sad tale of the hollow knight
Nice editing also
Thank You! I appreciate the kind comment.
Pure Vessel might be my favourite fight in the entire game. The fast-paced action and clear indicators for each attack mixed with the spacing of the arena and the general aesthetic easily make it a candidate for my favourite boss fight in any video game.
Fun fact: Pure vessel has two arms while hollow knight has one
How did I never notice the missing arm 😂
I believe what Hollow Knight/Pure Vessel this inspired in Dark Souls, more specifly in Artorias, why the 2 characters have alone a arm
@@Divuru I don’t think anyone wants to praise the sun here…
How did i never notice that?
I like how when hitting him it doesn’t spew infection since he’s pure and the radiance is unable to influence him
It is a Memory/Dream
He's not actually pure.
That's because he is not infected... Yet...
The hollow knight has the saddest story of all time hands down
So true. It's bad enough he was raised to be a cage his whole life but failed because of the ounce of emotion he has for his father dreams.
@@PrizMatex imagine the other vessels they was thrown away cuz they had emotions! They was sent to death because they didnt born like how their father wanted them!
@@dr.universeman5348 the hollow knight also has emotions
I think
@@octoegg1936 Hollow knight was close to not have them he pressurized his emotion with will! The only thing made him have an emotion is his love for his father...
The Hollow Knight was so close to becoming the perfect vessel that, ironically, his undoing was the very thought/emotion of wanting to become a perfect vessel to make their Dad proud.
Damn, HK has one of the most tragic ironies in video game history.
Poor HK ;; just let me give him a hug
Agree ,The guy needs therapy and a hug imagine stuck in isolation for years and a angry goddess is in your head using you as a puppet, i just hope the hollow knight is alive in silksong if the god master ending is canon
My man needs therapy with a combination of a long LONG vacation plus lots of hugs.
@@PrizMatex a great youtuber like you also deserves a vacation whenever they need ;)
@@quintusthefifth2232 Thanks! ;)
@@mohamednail1707 it might be cannon or not. Who the heck knows. But I doubt they might put him in HK Silk Song. Could be very wrong
Is it just me or y'all also wanna cry every time the Sealed Vessel theme switches to the sad violin and they stab themself? Q-Q
Once I was playing the boss fight and my friend was looking the fight (but mainly playing clash Royale) and then he just looked the screen in the moment tat the hollow knight started stabbing himself and he was like “what the hell is going on here!?”
This man just did hitless pure vessel 👌
Yeah
;-;
Yea bro did it radiant
I beat him only once in my life on radiant and this guy made it look like a cake walk
The boss is even sadder when you realize you can't save it,you dream nail it, it doesnt give soul or dream dialog, showing the hollow knight is a bubble, just waiting to burst like an infection filled balloon.
God i always get chills whenever I hear pure vessel’s theme
It’s really cool that when the pure vessel screams there is no sound but when the hollow knight screams it is a deafening roar symbolizing that the hollow knight is not the perfect vessel
The hollow knight and the radiance are like oil and water
Too bad we had little water to contain that oil.
@@PrizMatex Step one: cover yourself in oil
@@VineThuWiz Lol.
@@VineThuWiz step two: wait for it to rain
@@quintusthefifth2232 step three: fly
You can see that when the Hollow Knight teleports around he looks like a shady Radiance, pretty cool detail
No, that’s just their shade
@@AshenDust_ His eyes go the same colour as the the radiance...
@@orthranus3352 that’s just the infection, which is created by the radiance, but any infected vessel would look like that
@@AshenDust_ Broken Vessel really doesn't have the same kind of look.
@@orthranus3352 that’s because it’s just a reanimated corpse, you never see it’s shade
4:47 I love the timing put on the "Born of God and Void" line, on the last stagger before the Void Tendril phase begins
"Born of God and Void" (stagger)
pale blades come up from the ground (god)
void tendrils from inner shade (void)
perfect timing
@@DecoyOnYT yeeees
I played through this game fully my first time this year and I’m glad I did this game is a masterpiece
Hornet came out of no where and said to vessel "get good"
Shut up, please...
Then immediately dies because the player fucked around from shock.
No Cost Too Great...
No Mind to Think...
No Will to Break...
No Voice to Cry Suffering...
Born of God and Void...
Do not Think...
Do not Hope...
Do not...
The series of nail-syncs to the music, from 0:52 to 0:58 is so so beautiful and I want everyone to notice.
Omg i love it. It looks so cool great job.
Thank you! 😊
hess like saying: kill me im out of controll
Pretty much sums up Hollow Knight in a nutshell.
One thing I love about the hollow knight is that your technically not fighting the pure vessel, your fighting the radiance controlling the pure vessel, whenever the hollow knight gets the oppurtunity to, he stabs himself, it just shows the trust he has in you, Although he is "hollow" he still has feelings, like trust.
Hollow Knight as Sealed Vessel: cry of suffering
as Pure Vessel: UUUUU
I just feel bad for the Hollow knight he was the chosen pure vessel and never chose to be infected
Yea :,(
THE BOW TO PV IS WHAT GOT MEEE….
It’s sad that it was the Hollow Knight’s love for his father that the events of Hollow Knight happened. It’s the cutscene at the end of Path of Pain that caused the events of Hollow Knight to happen. The Pale King showed his son the slight bit of love, and the Hollow Knight wanted to do all it could to do what its father wanted.
For me, the hardest part of defeating the hollow knight is tat I feel bad for him
Damn this was super good
Thank You! ;)
Personally, to me, the Hollow Knight is what Gwyn is to Dark Souls fans
His story is more like the pale king but at the end the ashen one and gwyn is like the ghost and the hollow knight
Simple but beautiful
Thank you! 😊
why must you hit me right in the feels
I don't know how you made this even better but you did
The ghost steped back from the hollow knight. The radiences corruption vanished. What stood as the ghost was something far more frightening. It was a body of living shadow. Bearing a nail seething in energy,with 2 eyes...one white. One orange. Light and shadow in one being. Neither overtaking.
"What...did you do?" Hornet asked the ghost. The ghost turned to her.
"We ended our brothers pain." The ghost spoke at last. Tho it was more like sevral voices speaking at once...the broken vessels and ghost. The creature went to the hollow knight,and shadow engulfed his missing arm,creating an arm of pure void.
"...What happens now then?"
"I want to end my siblings pain. Its long time for us to rest. Theres no more constant light and no more constant dark. Do what you will...and take care of him..." The ghost said alone,its voice almost cracking. Hornet nodded.
"You have my word. Though i dont know how much of this place still remains.."
The knight vanished into the shadows...leaving the 2 siblings alone. Alive. Free...
Hollow knight ending:Dusk.
Amo como mesmo sem saber o contexto por trás dessa luta ela ainda consegue ser extremamente boa só pela trilha sonora
Imagine if this is how it went down (Taking down radiance via dream nailing sealed vessel), you took down base vessel and did godhome up to the second to last pantheon (not doing 5th pantheon) and you have to go through and fight sealed and pure vessel to get more lore around pale king and vessel's relationship only to fight a semi godhome radiance with a more emotional version of the radiance fight with a more emotional theme (maybe through in some sealed vessel/pure vessel melodies in there)
Speedrun
Ningún costo es demasiado alto
No Importa pensar
No hay voluntad de romper
No hay voz para llorar de sufrmiento
Nacido de un dios y el vacio
Sellaras la luz cegadora qué pagla tus sueños
Tu eres el recipiente
Eres el Hollow Knight.
This is amazing. Keep up your work on the Hollow Knight community :)
this is so sad knowing that i have whooped his sorry ass at least 10 times after getting destroyed by radiance again and again
IS THE HOLLOW KNIGHTS BOSSS BATTLE SYNCED TO THE MUSIC, CUS EVERTIME I FIGHT IT OR SOMEONE ELSE DOES, WHEN THE MUSIC GETS SAD IT STARTS STABBING ITSELF
The pale king's plan was perfect but he was too soft with The hollow knight, making him create a bond with his fathercall it cruel, but if he did want this plan to succed he shouldve never knew him
this game is a true work of art uwu
and great work it looks amazing
Through its sacrifice, hollownest lests eternal
The knight 5 secs into the intro: nuh uh
It would be neat if there was a mod that added Hollow's cut dream nail dialogue
0:44 - 3:30
The hollow knight is shorter than the pure vessel, im right, i mean, its probably by a few milimeters but im right
2:07 you have the pale champion mod ?
JUST PERFECT
I think the hollow knight is overshadowed by the radiance too much. Because it truly is an amazing and tragic boss.
A shell, no longer the perfect mindless vessel father had wanted. Even before his passing, father couldn’t stop the corruption bound to come when he had defied the radiance. What a pathetic waste. All. My. Siblings. Fallen at father’s hands. Some lost to the Radiance’s might. God, all of us, defied and thrown to the abyss. We were wasted. It takes all my might to stop me from giving in to anger and sending this “Hollow Knight” to the abyss himself to see how we felt. Let the shades of the fallen take him. Show him what had come of his siblings. What could have come of them.
0 dislikes. You deserve that :)
Ohh that won't last long XD
@@PrizMatex well now we'll never know
Amazing!
Damn this is so good
The first fight is really you and the hollow knight vs the radiance
Phenominal
that seems to be so little time ago, I subscribed shortly before that, and then FNF happened. I love that game, but I still hope you'll make some HK content again. it was really nice
Until now I had no idea that he was stabbing himself to rid him of the infection. I thought he was farting to be honest and it was a joke by TeamCherry. 😂
Why does the hollow knight stab himself? Is it because he is not fully controlled by the infection?
he is trying to help the knight
he is still trying to kill radiance thinking there is hope, or at least that's how i see it
Oh shit only just I’ve noticed that you can see radiance at 0:45
pure work
The people who havnt played this game are gonna be so confused with the transition between songs 😂😂😂
Pog
-spike
This is so cool can you do a speedrun
that would be great if this battle will look like this,
I may be wrong but when the Hollow Knight begins stabbing themselves I imagine they are trying to help you defeat the Radiance.
Dude at the 3:14 it says father?
The hollow knight, the Knight and every other vessel had a will, the will to carry the burden of the hollownest, their sacrifice alone could not save hollownest, but a weak Knight, he who crawled out of the abyss to the unknown, fought the failed champion, The White defender, the lost kin, the mantis Lords and any other being that stood in his way, no being could stop him, not the lord's of the mantis, no the leader of the mad mantis, not the tyrant that lived in the soul sanctum, not even the hollow knight itself , the Knight raises his blade against a god, a god that caused all this, a god he and his fallen brethren slayed.
The dreamers , the Pale king and every vessel and many more, through their sacrafice Hollownest lasts eternal
Proof that the infection makes you weaker
I got something in my eye
1:27 -3.000 aura moment
1:29 -6.000 aura moment
1:30 -9.000 aura moment
Wtf how did i not notice that hollow knigtht has only one arm? At what point he did lose the other one?
how to download a video without an interface, please tell me
Olhando assim faz paracer que o receptáculo puro é fácil de enfrentar,mau sabem o quão difícil é merda é kk
Pior q eu aprendi os padrões dessa luta vendo esse vídeo várias vezes,adotei todas as técnicas q ele usa e percebi nessa luta o quão útil é o Parry
3 of The Radiance pressed the dislike button.
Instead of having called him "father?" I would have called the final fight "brother?" since the Pure Vessel or the Hollow Knight is the brother, so to speak, of the protagonist and the father of the two is the Pale King, xddd piece of history but it was a good fight against the Pure Vessel
Yeah during the making of this video I was going of the dialogue lines so I didn't even think about it too much. But that does make sense.
Tengo un efecto canela pero en un vídeo creo que escuche que en unos dialogos eliminados El Primer Hollow Knight confundía al segundo con su padre
Could you image figthing Pure Vessel as the Ghost with the apareance of PV
Pure Vessal is big brother or am I wrong
No, youre not wrong the Pure Vessel ( and other vessels) are brother’s
@@marielosvindas1247 I know but it's weird that one of your siblings is bigger then your father and also the game's lore is kinda depressing even if little Ghost doesn't talk at all. The cutscenes tell you everything
I think younger.
Im lanky brother
When the infection was spreading in the simple bugs of hallownest, the pale king came up with a solution that could contain the virus. In the abyss it was full of complete void. A being that had no feeling, no mind, no voice and didn’t serve a god. Him and the white lady had millions of hollow knights. But he threw them all into the abyss. When one could climb out and prove that it was completely hollow and devoid of any emotion, it would be raised in royalty, trained with a nail and eventually sealed away in the black egg to writhe with the infection for all eternity. It is very much a sad story. So to answer your question, the hollow knight is your brother, but it isn’t technically older or younger.
You are not the father!🎉
Nice mate
To reveal both an ending and the radiance in THK fight is kinda dumb but PV was amaizing
GIT GUD
0:43 OUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
funfact the hollow knight only has 1 hand
*arm*
How can i fight pure vessel
Go to Godhome and beat P4
@@gasterthemaster6490 easier said than done
@@Anxmaly666 use maxed Grimmchild, Gathering Swarm and Defender's crest.
@@gasterthemaster6490 gathering swarm?
@@Anxmaly666 I meant that one that creates minions from soul.
then we fight with radiance
I'm really hoping that the Pure Vessel fight was on Radiant difficulty or that no-hit would've somewhat been wasted. Good job, though.
Can you edit out the godseeker? Imo they shouldn't be there.
Bruh that would take so much time and things would look messy in the background.
@@PrizMatex it would probs take about 1 majillion years to make the godseeker not there and the whole background not messy
Sadness
WAIT, THE KINGS SON IS THE HOLLOW KNIGHT? There's no way I saw that until now. I am right tho right?
Bro our character(the knight),Hornet and hollow knight are pk's son hollow knight and the knight are real blood brothers and step brothers with hornet
To be honest i beat the last boss in my 2nd try its not even harf
bro has 999k subs 😭
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999,999 subs
This boss is easier than soul twisters (these things arent even bosses)