I Tried Building $6000 Custom Wheels
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- I try building my own set of 3-piece custom wheels for my BMW E30.
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James looks way healthier and happier lately, love to see it 🫡
Looks like he's lost a good bit of weight
@@LongDaysVideo He had a heart attack? Damn.
@@dallebull like 2 years ago I think, maybe 3. now that I think about it I'm not sure because 2020 feels like a long time ago but I remember it happening around the pandemic
Edit: it happened in November 2019, which was when donut was releasing videos nearly everyday of the week, including all the shows everyone likes. I find it hard to believe its already been 4 years
Was thinking the same thing, looking great brother!
Svelt horse
James makes me feel comfortable to be a "car person" with minimal car mechanical knowledge and experience lmao
I agree. Half my family grew up on farms building olld mopars and restos. I grew up in the city but ended up being a millwright. Everyone i worked with works on cars, I can build machines and love cars and know about them but never got around to tearing apart and going for it. Seeing these guys do it makes me feel like I can do it no problem if I have the balls n money.
Then you’re not a car person. You’re just a poser.
You and James ain't car people, yous guys are more car enthusiasts cause if you can't fix them you ain't car people, and if you say different that's exactly what a car enthusiasts would say
@@MrTruehoustonian same thing bruh so negative for what
There's no purity test to be a car guy. Do you like cars? Welcome to the club. I can't do much beyond changing my oil and spark plugs or basic wiring but I'm still a car guy.
6k for filled and drilled is wild. Especially when the redrill didn't line up with the original chamfers.
Bullshit prices. If he paid that much for them, he got taken advantage of.
They mentioned they used a 3rd party company, and it still took 5 months. I get your point completely, but it like ordering a big Mac combo with a drink and fries through a delivery app. The 10$ meal shows up somewhat cold, and by the end cost 32$ if anything is messed up now you have to contact the 3rd party, ask them to tell the restaurant and ever step points the finger somewhere else until you give up.
This is what would happen if they tried to get it fixed.
Instead, they understand the cost of replacing vs fixing. They also have the caps to hide the clearancing.
Again it took 5 months to show up. For donut it makes sense to modify. If this is your dream car you spent 15 years slowly building then it might be worth the time/effort
it was done based off of measurements, so not the companies fault, it was a simple mistake by james.
James was a prominent member of the VW community in the "baller wheel" era of fitment and style. Dude is more than qualified to walk us through this. Also, James certainly knows his way around 3 piece wheels more than he's letting on here. Anyone from the VWVortex pre-server change community knows this.
Damn I’d love to know more about that
Tomquade7686 gives us an Up2Speed on James?? Edit: they should definitely do an up to speed on all the hosts and their journey with cars
this is a great idea @@joe_lucid00
@@joe_lucid00they should do an up to speed about james andw also about donut itself. I think a lot of people would love to know how it came to be and when james came into the mix and what exactly he does. I think most people assume James is the creator of donut but that isn't true.
I can attest to this, being in the Louisville VW scene for over 25 years.
It's so refreshing to have James as a solo presenter, loved it, reminds me why I started watching the channel at first!
The wheels turned out amazing!
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Slight correction. Forged wheels aren't cut from metal. They're made from compacting hot metal into a shape, kinda like making a snowball. Billet is where it's cut from a single block, like the Pagani Huayra wheels. 🫱🏾🫲🏻
Yeah, I caught that too 😅
Ditto. I mean, they're still finished on a CNC (or a lathe and/or mill, if you're feeling old school), but that's not what defines them as "forged." 👍
Came here to say this. Glad someone caught it before me
Yeah the right term i think would be that the wheels are machined, not forged. Striking and reshaping hot metal is what makes it forging.
In my teens, circa 1980-83, I worked at Jongbloed Modular Wheels aka Jongbloed Racing Wheels. We manufactured 3-piece wheels for racing and street applications. Expensive, but worth it. This was a great job and I learned many skills to help me through life.
At 8:01 you mentioned "forged", that is a process in which the aluminum is hit so hard it becomes elastic (almost liquid) but without melting as shown at 8:13, but technically cut out of a forging as opposed to being "cut out of a single piece of metal" which implies billet. Forging is waaay better.
What you didn't show is how the inner and outer (barrel and lip in Donut terms) are made.
We started with a square flat sheet of soft aluminum and stretched it around a die on a lathe. By hand, with a steel pipe with a steel wheel on the end...not easy! Then cut the corners and center off and sent it out to be hardened. It comes back ugly but hard and rigid. We checked for cracks then it would then get put in another lathe where we would do the precise machining. Finally, it would be put in a jig with hardened inserts for drilling the bolt holes.
It's still ugly, and that won't do. We did all our own polishing, and if you've never had a 10 inch wheel inner (barrel) get away from you at 100 MPH you don't know what exciting is! I don't recommend it. A 2 HP 3 phase buffer-grinder can throw a wheel pretty damn far.
That being said, I can say "Building Custom Wheels" is EASY! Manufacturing them is quite challenging.
Adam died a little when he heard the cost lol!
Was just gonna comment on his reaction to the $6k price tag 😅
$6k for the exact same rims in a different color, hilarious
@@bananasInpajamas358exactly, weren't the wheels he already had on also 3 piece wheels that look almost the same?!
@@Niraol absolutely xD
It physically hurts me to think about such spendy wheels. My last set of muscle car wheels only cost me $600
I gotta say, the editing on this episode is top notch.
Also, James looks really good.
after a heart attack , anyone would take care of themselves moren
No they wouldn't, many fat positive people remain fat. Dieting is fatphobic
@@riostv7497what’s “moren”
@@riostv7497 counter-point...why do so many people have repeat heart attacks?
@@EPiQ_cRnot taking care of themselves, some people it’s hereditary
Glad to see James looking well. I gotta be honest, it's hard for me to see a big enough difference in the wheels to care, but I'm all about sleepers anyway.
If you see real wheels compared to reps in person, you’ll definitely notice a difference. It’s the same thing as seeing te37 reps compared to the real thing. You noticed the craftsmanship, even the finish more, and refined design. Makes the car look way better compared to a rep.
Seeing James back in a car and building it makes me so happy. He looks so happy🥹
Pumphrey is dropping some weight! Looking good brother. I actually helped my neighbors dad build wheels for his race car when I was like 8 years old, waaay back in the 80's. I remember doing something that really stunk, and later was told that it was highly toxic and I should not have inhaled it. It was the 80's, so it makes sense, and come to think of it, it actually answers a lot of questions today.....
I did not realize I am almost 3 years old in Donut Underground years. Love you guys!
Car looks so sick. That being said, the final side by side was a little like the office “it’s the same picture”. It’s more like a “I’m you, but stronger”
You’re not wrong. They could’ve got the old ones a good polish and it would be identical
When you apply the silicone you have to put some tape on both sides so you have a straight line of silicone when you remove the tape
Love these videos - fun, educational, and easy to follow. Keep up the good work guys!
This might be 50 year old tech but the style is 10 years ahead.
10 yrs ahead of 90's?
Then ok.
@@nikostalk5730 Yeah, gonna say. I feel like I saw these everywhere growing up, only they weren't split rims.
its timeless
you what
The style works because it's an older car that fits the look. If someone spent 6k on rims for most vehicles after 2005 it would be ridiculous. That was the entire point of a "3 peice wheel" video.
“I can’t wait till I run these into a curb.” 😂😂😂😂
I did not expect these wheels to look THAT good!! Bravo. Loved this episode and learned so much.
Forged whells do use CNC but the part that makes them sturdier is the actual forging part where the metal is hammered into shape while red hot. Then CNCd to finish it.
Bingo. They conflated forged and billet.
The darker contrast of the old ones honestly looked a little better...
The tiniest bump is going to rub those tires right into the inner wheel well especially when turning😂😂
at least it will look good rubbing the fender. there shouldnt be many times where he will hit a big bump while turning for that to happen tho
@@cr-x7344 Dang where do you live that the roads are that smooth?
@@drunkenhobo8020 southern mountains
I like how the gold reflects off the chrome. Very nice!
really digging the solo presentation in this video, it reminds me a lot more of old donut and I love it
I love watching donut, they teach you tons of car information while making it fun and educational.
Day 421 of asking James to do and Up to Speed on his Dad
Dude. I think his dad has passed away. Shut up
Shut up lil bro
Give the guy some privacy.
@@entic432no
Day idk of asking for a redo of up to speed on the turbo buicks
14:07 "Good things come to those who wait" like banana bread at work.
Worth the wait for classic bbs goodness. Suit the car perfectly
I feel like been a while since James hosted a video, forgot how much I missed it.
Those center caps are way too cool, love them
We love you James, top notch editing and episode!
Those are some of the nicest rims I've ever seen, I'm not a fan of that design but rethinking now because the chrome and gold bolts make it pop! BBS center floaters is also a nice touch.
@Donutmedia777carz
That fitment is to die for. Beautiful James.
Watching James do car stuff is so 👌
To each their own, but 6k to look almost the same with no performance upgrade is crazy.
Rebuilding some OZ Mito Type 2’s this week, just the video I needed for motivation ❤
Those wheels look sick. Great work.
Can't believe how similar they look to the original
That ish came out CLEAN!!!
I just love seeing James healthier than ever in recent videos, I think it's pretty chad to take care of your own physical health while also taking care of your cars physical health! just love to see it
Such a beautiful car, truly deserving of a bespoke set of wheels
Love the channel guys ! So lucky you guys get to do that you guys do. !
This video reminds me of the excitement I had when sourcing a set of genuine gunmetal Volk TE37s with carbon fibre centre caps for my s13 back in the mid 2000s
aren't the previous wheels were like 99% the exact same wheels?
I like how they look exactly the same as the old ones
Can we do a video of him cleaning the brake dust off those?! That should be hilarious/painful
It’s actually a non event now with a ceramic coating, and a proper brush. It’s not the 90’s anymore dude.
James killing it in every aspect of life. Love the videos!!
Those wheels are dope af James. Beautiful job putting them together.
I've never understood why people would leave the tire stickers on. Other than that, looks good. Nice vid.
bc they wear off on the first drive. No need to spend the extra time getting them off. Unless u care abt the environment
for me its an indicator for when the tire is worn in
Tell us you've never driven a car without telling us you've never driven a car
So you can demount and return them if the fit isn't good
so old tire plebs can see your fresh rubbers.
14:16 maybe I’m missing something but I barely see a difference? Not worth $6K to me anyways? They look nice dude but, you could’ve dropped in an 600-800hp engine for that price.
If you want custom fitment (especially with an old school spec wheel that has to be sourced from parts), that’s what it costs. Fitment isn’t just how the vehicle looks, it ultimately affects how much traction your vehicle is capable of producing on a given set of tires; in short it’s the largest factor with regards to how much cornering traction you’re capable of producing, and how much stopping power you have, it’s also a major factor with how much grip the vehicle has for acceleration (although not the as important as mass and horsepower).
My car for example with 500hp has a factory fitment of 245mm wide rubber, most 1 piece wheels can be a maximum of 275mm rubber or 285 with a rolled fender, but with custom wheels you can fit a 315mm rear tire ->that’s an incredible difference in terms of drag or road racing, and the lip goes from like 1/2in from factory to like 5in with a custom 3 piece ->they look #$*)ing sick.
Ultimately the biggest change you can make to the way your car handles and brakes is the wheels and tires (and the size of them), you put on.
funny thing is those are completely diffrent wheels, first one is a set of 2 piece RC090 second ones are redrilled RS
Hell yeah! 3-piece BBS rims are dope
Those came out way better looking then I thought they would. GJ!
Next video:
"Wheel theft is getting out of hand!"
Whoa, this is kinda insane price for BBS RS. In Poland you can get these for like $2k less. I’ve actually owned a set of 16 to 18 5x114.3 with wider slants than yours and sold them recently for like 3.5k, and rotors haven’t been redrilled lol
Thats what i said lol, i can find these wheels on offerup in mint condition for 2k non redrilled, 6 month wait on top too is crazy. Dude definitely got ripped off to the moon
Well yeah, wheels can be built for much cheaper had he sourced everything separately. Here it seems that he went directly to a well renown builder here in the US, @ewheelworks and simply purchased a fully refinished set of wheels without being rebuilt for the sake of building them himself for the channel.
any reputable builder would know that you should drill 4x100 in a big center bore face, there is a reason 4x100 BBS RS came with smaller center bore@@michaelurena7324
They look great! They bring back memories, I had similar looking wheels on my ‘88 Mustang!
I'm surprised there weren't pages upon pages in the forums talking about perfect fitment specs for this car
If I spend 6k on a set or wheels and they aren't assembled. I'm sending them back lol
Nice job. Although I prefer the old wheels, suits the car better somehow :)
i love old school bbs mesh. i had a set back before the scene started in '93. bucky lasig and i had the first 2 custom honda civics in baltimore. i found some silver mesh single pc. bbs. it eas awesome. memories. i actually was posting to say you look great. much more healthy than before. keep it up.!! its hard A.F.!
James taste in cars is so good, bro does not miss
Ngl, they look pretty much just like the old wheels, just newer, even though they probably aren't
Are we all pretending the old wheels don't look the same as the new wheels 😮😮
Fkn love the Emporer's new wheels 😂
Love videos with James, we need more James and jobe videos
Car looks crazy, always loved these BMW's as a kid and as a result you got me to order for the first time ever from a UA-cam channels product store! White/Blue Donut cap coming to Dover UK from LA. Can't wait! Love the channel keep up the good work all you guys
Well, at least we know it's worth it less than 30 seconds into the video because we know he's not getting a Tesla.😂
This is called class love you donut media
james is looking really good! we need more of him solo hosting
The center caps are pretty sick
The new wheels are sick. But seeing the side by side for 6 grand.
Wouldn't refurbing and cleaning up the old wheels give the same result but for a fraction of the cost.
As in a lip swap and colour is all youd need. Plus the centre caps and 50 quid on floaters.
Sick flex those new wheels are though.
$6K for *almost* identical wheels to the old ones 😂
Nice to know Donut has money to spend.
Although, I think it would be better a Hi and Low Motorcycle series
If you don't get it then you're not a car person and I don't understand what you're doing here on this channel.
Y’all should do a low Supra and a high Supra
Easy way to cut time on the building tires is use a low power impact.
I used one that was 10ftlbs and it sped up my time when I was a tire tech
I like the old rims better.
Cool wheels but the old ones had a better pattern.
1st time seeing a floater centre cap. That's cool AF
Perfect timing! Just bought my winter wheels project to build a 3 piece wheel of 👌🏼
Love you guys, but for real, $6K on Wheels only to hog them out manually at each lug hole? It seems like that would wheels to potentially be off balance? Curious how that worked out
They look great and should last about 3 days in LA before they are stolen, good luck.
We need more videos of that beautiful E30!!
Absolutely stunning complements the car perfectly
Skinnier lug nuts do exist. I wonder if they would work instead of cutting your rims.
19mm is 19mm….
Just sayin…
He’s using an impact socket which is probably not great, but it looked too tight for even a snap on or Mac socket to fit. Also, never tighten lugs on a car you like with an impact, ever, for any reason; only do this to a truck or something you hate if you’ve got a torque stick.
original 4x100 BBS RS come with a smaller center thread bore exactly because of this problem, whoever redrilled these lacks knowledge
6k on redrilled wheels? It's a joke, right?
yes
Watching this on my lunch break while sitting in my E30 just feels right
Paul redrilled and refinished my OG Work Emitz. I got them as an already redrilled 5x114>5x120. I can confidently say I was one of his hardest jobs. He COMPLETELY rebuilt the hubs to make them a single 5x110 drill. They were for my Pontiac G6.
Start buying toothbrushes in bulk
James is like a completely different person! Its nice to see cos for so long he looked miserable like he didn't want to be there filming. Hope to see more episodes like this one it really makes it great to watch
When? 5 years ago before I started watching?
@@cenciende9401 read the comments buddy everyone's noticed how he has changed. Everyone apart from you.
Absolutely gorgeous work
Those wheels look so sick! Great job, man!
Absolutely love that build!
Keep us up to date with how those tires perform
You guys should also try building some truck split rims! Use a cage though when you air em up though lol
james dude you’re looking so dang good dude. your health journey is super inspiring
I love the color combo
Those wheels looks SICK! 🔥 Good to see you James happy and healthy! ❤
we would love to see your transformation journey !
James that hole spec wheels, colours and all are perfect Mate.
Gorgeous E30 Coupe and Very classy choice of wheels!
Excellent choice. Looks sick. I never knew wheels could be so involved (or expensive).
Yeah imagine them throwing some real wire wheels on there which these simulate from a distance.
And this is only a 6000 set of wheels imagine a 10 or 15,000 set of wheels with wire spokes that have to be trued and set by hand up to 144 times then bolts nipples Wing nuts center caps Etc and hand engraved by some master engraver for a lowrider build...
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Make ‘em fit take your crown 😂
Those bbs floater caps look soooooo sick dude