Tony Randall told the story about Jayne and her fans. When the tourist bus would pull up to her house in Hollywood, instead of hiding she would run down the driveway to the street and shout, "Hey! It's me! It's Jayne!". Then she would sign autographs for the tourists. She loved her fans.
Jayne Mansfield was well-known for being one of Hollywood's nicest celebrities. She'd leave her Pink Palace, run down to the gate, and greet the tourists with a cherry, "Hi! Here I am! Yes, I am Jayne Mansfield!"
I remember those tour buses. Once one stopped to look at a star's house and Doris Day was riding by on her bicycle. She stopped and pointed out several houses up and down the streets to the fans looking out the bus window. I was there, saw her do this. She was so nice.
@@allenjones3130 If she'd lived longer?? Seriously? You speak as if she committed suicide!! Jayne was in a horrible car accident! She doesn't compare to Marilyn at all! Jayne was phenomenal!
Sad that Jayne would die in less than a year. Look how much fun she seems to be having here. Especially her banter with Bennett, after he identity was guessed. It was like she hadn't had this much fun in years.
Such a beautiful woman with a great personality too. Jayne looks absolutely stunning here. I agree, its very sad. Jayne didn't deserve to meet such a tragic end but at least there is some small comfort in that she didn't have to suffer the possible ignominy and obscurity that may come with old age.
@@mikebarnard7957 This idolizing of celebrities is unfortunately part of our culture What happened to JM is certainly sad, tragic as it would be for anyone else at such a young age.
@@robertsvorinich890 I agree to some extent but having said that my former comments would still apply to a non celebrity who had similar attributes and died under similar tragic circumstances. It's because of her fame that it came to the public's attention.
@@robertsvorinich890 Unfortunately, some people like to be jealous of someone, who passed tragically 53 years ago.He simply mentioned she died tragically and you had to turn it into something else.
Jayne Mansfield was a cartoon act from what I’ve seen and didn’t know how to change with the time. In fact these sex kittens from the 50s found it hard to change when this is all they were remembered for. Out of all of them Marilyn was the profitable one but she too had to live off of that sexy act till her death. All of them were plagued with issues and leeches in the business and personal life. Mix that with drugs and alcohol they were left floundering trying to find some sanity in their life.
She was indeed very intelligent and a violin player, but so far as I know her formal education didn’t extend much beyond high school. She graduated from high school at age 17 in 1950. After that she enrolled and attended several universities in Texas and California, studying no More than a year at each, given her peripatetic life as an aspiring actor.
Jayne Mansfield, Phyllis Newman, and Arlene Francis were all beautiful women. Linda the last contestant was also gorgeous. Jayne Mansfield in her earlier appearance as the mystery guest was quite different from this Jayne Mansfield. She was more herself the first time and this time seemed to portray the image that people had of her at the time.
I was 11 when Jayne Mansfield died in that car wreck in Louisiana. I remember it clearly. My family was on vacation and it was front page news in the newspapers in Colorado and at home when we returned later that week. A more morbid piece of news you never saw. The reports were full of details about either scalping or decapitation, though, as it turns out, neither quite happened.
Decapitated, no. But, I think whoever fixed her up for her coffin said there was some scalping which of course he corrected and was hidden under her ever present wig.
@@neildickson5394 Yes, a documentary said her skull was crushed, but no decapitation. So happy her kids survived. Sad that her dogs died in that horrific crash. The documentary also stated that Jayne sat in the back seat for the first part of the Louisiana trip, but had stopped and exchanged seats along the way, putting the children in the back seat and Jayne taking the front middle seat. This action probably saved the children's lives.
Jayne seemed to be so kind and warm and funny. She was a talent gone way too soon. Her charisma is on full display. She knew how to make people feel comfortable.
Beautiful Mother. Her love for children and animals was her legacy. Wonderful human. Thank you Jayne aka Mother as you preferred to be called you have my admiration and respect. RIP Vera Jayne Palmer Mansfield. 💖
RIP Jayne Mansfield (born Vera Jayne Palmer (April 19, 1933 - June 29, 1967)(aged 34) you will truly be missed and you're an amazing and talented actress.
One of Jayne Mansfield's last television appearances. Tragically, in just 347 days, her life was all over at only 34 years of age. After performing at a nightclub in Biloxi, Mississippi, she rode in a car to New Orleans, Louisiana. The car she was riding in slammed into the back of a semi-tractor trailer truck that had stopped due to a truck in front of the tractor trailer that was spraying for bugs, and the car in which she was riding went under the truck at nearly 80 miles per hour along with boyfriend Samuel Brody and their driver Ronnie Harrison. They died instantly. Contrary to popular belief, Jayne was NOT decapitated.
Zachary Dunlap-Tunnage Severely scalped; cracked/sliced skull which was missing a sizeable chunk [skull] - this accident helped create & enforcement of the "Mansfield bar" (the bar equipped under tractor trailer, etc)
+Zachary Dunlap-Tunnage The decapitation story is false. The story started when a police photo of the car accident showed what appeared to be a blond head dangling in the windshield, but in actuality it was her blond wig and perhaps some of her real hair. She did die of head trauma.
Contestant two: Plastic really took over straws. I remember plenty of paper straws as a kid from that era, but I haven’t seen a paper straw in utter ages.
I think it gives the first contestant's line away a little bit when it is said that she uses an animal that is not normally found in or near the water, indeed in her case, in or near the water.
Just moments prior to her death, Jayne made sure that three of her five children that were with her that night (she had five children before she died), Zoltan, Milkos, and Marisaka were in the back. It was a good thing she made sure, because had they been in the front, they, too would have been history.
To think less than a year Jane Died!!! Mariska is Mariska Hartigay from Law and Order. . A whats My Line Panelist, Dorothy Killagen Died in 1965, I always thought She was a Really Beautiful Woman.
What a ridiculous line of work. Forcing a horse to jump 40 feet into 10 feet of water. It could be injured or worse. Amazing how in the 60's no thought was ever given to the welfare of animals in entertainment. 😕😕
In 1955, Jayne Mansfield made one of her earliest film appearances, in a dramatic role, in "The Burglar," which took place in part in Atlantic City. At the end of the movie, Jayne and Dan Duryea are watching an acrobatic show at the Steel Pier. At the end of show, for just a few minutes, there is shown a woman jumping a horse into the pool, but it is from a much lower height than 40 feet.
He was running for the seat held by US Senator Claire Engel, who had become partially paralyzed from a brain tumor, and lost his capacity for speech. Engel tried to run for re-election but his health was deteriorating so rapidly that he withdrew in April. Salinger won the Democratic primary against State Controller Alan Cranston, but then Engel died and in August Governor Pat Brown appointed Salinger to the seat. He lost the November general election to Republican George Murphy (a former actor and dancer), and was the only Democratic seat to go Republican in LBJ's Democratic landslide of 1964.
Female drummers are rare and it seems to me that there's a simple reason for it. It isn't a matter of prejudice. Rather it's a matter of not wanting to hide the most attractive member of the band behind a drum kit. That's a major reason why Karen Carpenter eventually stopped drumming and concentrated on singing.
I highly doubt it was 160, that would put her at Einstein's IQ level. I don't doubt she's an intelligent lady, she was playing a part here really, but not many have that IQ level.
From what I could discover online, it appears that sometimes Jayne told people her IQ was in the 160’s, while on other occasions she said it was in the high 140’s. From watching her converse on this show, neither seems likely. But online sources and my own superficial impressions can be faulty. And does IQ really matter? Clearly she was a charming person, hard working, motivated to improve and succeed, all of which are signs of intelligence.
A man (don’t know his name) bought the wrecked car that Jayne died in. His idea was to mount it in his garden as some kind of trophy that people would to see. This idea created such a furore that he had to cancel this plan. The last I heard was he was trying to restore it but that was a long time ago
@Michael Naisbitt Scott Michaels from Dearly Departed has that car now and it was displayed at his museum in Hollywood for years which has now closed, but it can be seen on his youtube channel Dearly Departed Tours. Also he has lots of info on Janye Mansfield.
Nice to hear Dorothy's favorite old question about walking down the street with a product and would people stare coming from Phyllis, who is beyond pro as a game player here and in of late.
I noticed Phyllis using "Dorothy's question" too. It actually gave me a pang of sadness for Dorothy all over again. Although Phyllis played the game particularly well with the first contestant in this episode, I could never think of her in Dorothy's league as a game player.
SaveThe TPC So far, I have to say, highly enjoyable as these episodes are, I've only confirmed my prior memory that I stopped actively watching the reruns when they got to the shows after Dorothy's passing. It's just not the same for me. I keep trying to pretend she's just off covering a murder trial somewhere. :( I did finally get my hands on the one remaining missing episode that's available, 1/6/63 with Bert Lahr, so i will post that after the final episode. I didn't plan it this way, but it will be nice to have one more Dorothy episode to end the series with, and I think this is one a lot of folks never saw, since it appears to have aired on GSN only twice, and one of those times was all the way back in the 1990s (which is why it was so hard to find a copy.)
What's My Line? Congratulations on getting that previously missing, rare episode and thanks, as always, for your efforts in bringing all these classic WML episodes to all of us fans! It's nice to have something to look forward to after the last episode, but I have to say I'm getting a little sad at the prospect of coming to the end of the series at all. All good things must come to an end, as they say, but I'm glad you've found a way to stretch this one out a little further. Are you still planning to post the "WML at 25" special too -- and if so, would that be after the Bert Lahr episode? Also, I know you've been thinking about posting some other shows after you've added all the WML episodes. Have you made any definite decisions about that yet?
It was not just Jayne Mansfield who tragically died in a car accident during the last week of June 1967. Earlier that same week, on Monday June 26, French actress Françoise Dorléac (older sister of Catherine Deneuve, known for the likes of "That Man from Rio", "The Manhunt", "Cul-de-sac", "The Young Girls of Rochefort", and "Billion Dollar Brain"), was killed in a car accident in Nice, France.
I wonder whatever happened to all of those black and white tv cameras that became useless after about 1967. I think the news departments used black and white film for a little longer.
Joe Postove A few B&W cameras lived on for 10-15 years, donated to school or college training studios, or became museum pieces. Some of the lenses could be transferred to color cameras, but I'm sure the rest of the B&W stuff went to metal/electronic recyclers. It all had to go to make room for the even-bulkier color stuff. News film cameras could shoot color film, so they lived on into the '70s until practical electronic videotape editing arrived. I went to work for a TV station in '79, just as they finally ripped out their film lab.
***** It's hard to tell, but at about 19:19, he is clearly blushing at Miss Mansfield's description of him! Actually, after Phyllis's intro, I'm surprised neither she nor anyone else on the panel repeated, in response to Jayne's game, that he was a pussycat. ;)
Joe Postove I have in the past seen local sportscasts in many cases done in Black & White as late as 1970 with a Bulls-Warriors game that took place at the old Cow Palace in Daly City, CA (outside San Francisco).
And that September 4, 1966 episode was the last Black & White episode of "WML?" The show would the following Sunday (September 11, 1966) begin its only season in its original form airing in color.
The last contestant was a true natural beauty. I think Bennett "Pussycat" Cerf enjoyed his kiss with Jayne a bit too much. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when he got home to Phyllis. 😉
@@joeambrose3260 geez, just Google it. It’s a part of well known American history. He was JFKs press secretary. Rozelle had known Salinger from the U of San Francisco classmates and Rozelle contacted Salinger and was told JFK would not want the games canceled.
Interesting pronunciation of "demoniacal" by the learned Bennett Cerf at the 2:17 mark--the emphasis is typically placed on the 3rd syllable, but if it's Bennett stressing the 2nd syllable I'll go with it...
Notable here is Jayne Mansfield, who also is the mother of Mariska Hargitay, whom since 1999 has played the much-beloved Det. Olivia Benson on "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit," a series that may very well do what the original series could not: Break the record of 20 seasons the original series is tied with Gunsmoke for longest-running non-animated or non-news prime-time series ("The Simpsons" is the actual non-news prime-time record-holder at 25 seasons and counting). When Dorothy passed away, Phyllis Newman should have been made her full-time replacement. That might have kept the original version on past it's ending a little over a year after this episode aired.
It was a top attraction at steel peir NJ since the 1920s . Also in Atlantic City , also Revere beach Mass. Often called the " flying horses " popularity of the act waned in the late 60s and died by the 70s .
DebbieFaubion SaveThe TPC I just posted a clip of it to the Facebook group, I find this so hilarious. :) There's a moment in a 4th season episode of Burns and Allen just like this, which I also posted there. But you'll have to be on FB to see it. :)
Guys, cut the crap. Jayne was not decapitated. It was the wig on the hood. At one time, her autopsy photo was on - line. Her head was attached but banged up pretty bad
She was extremely smart but i never saw the physical attraction. She uses same voice everytime she was on the show lol So sad Dorothy was gone by this time... why there hasn't been a movie on her life.... Also, she picked up Marilyns soft voice while filming Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.
Jayne only did Gentleman prefer blondes on stage. There is a movie called the Jayne Mansfield story from 1982. Loni Anderson plays Jayne and Arnold Schwarzenegger plays her husband Mickey.
Jayne Mansfield in post-game interview. Speechless. What was she on?? She must have been something. It's a little disconcerting to see Jayne Mansfield here in 1966. First, her career was sort of in decline. And she is in the count down to her final day in Louisiana, though nobody knows it. Jayne Mansfield walking out. Speechless.
soulierinvestments It always makes me sad to see Jayne Mansfield doing her "ditzy blonde" routine. Remember how articulate she was in her first WML appearance? In reality, she was a brilliant woman. Had she lived longer, I wonder whether she would ever have gone back to showing her intelligence, or if she would have been trapped in that sex symbol image until she aged out of it and was forgotten? Sadly, we'll never know...
sort of in decline..her career was in decline for years now... she was only a top attraction for literally a couple of years from 1957 to 1959 or so... soon the public and the studio (20th century fox) realized she was a cheap coarse over the top too blatant too obvious poor man's monroe" without the talent, wit, or empathy from audience, nor was she as beautiful as monroe.... by the time of this tv appearance, she was already for years doing b and c level movies, lowly cabaret and nightclub shows, and regional play work, she was a "has been" and a "joke".. getting work anywhere she could.... don't mean to offend mansfield fans, but the truth is the truth...
So, Mariska Hargitay was two years old at the time of her mother's death and survived the crash? I'm watching WML and studying all of these old actors, watching their movies etc. technically living in 2022, but really living in the 50s and 60s. I live in New Orleans and I'm going to get on the highway and find the spot where JM stopped and had dinner, before she drove to New Orleans and met her untimely death.
If you looked carefully, you could see that she is unhappy. She manages to fake a smile. That day was the day she annouces her separation from Mat Cimber. All hell broke lose when she then soon travelled South America.
In 1958, a huge bunch of Democrats were elected to the U S Senate, including a new senator in California by the name of Clare Engel. He was scheduled for reelection in 1964, but died in summer 1964 of a brain tumor. California Governor Edmund Brown [who appeared on WML in 1958 as a Mr. X contestant] appointed Salinger senator. The idea was to get him on the campaign trail to be elected senator for his own term. In Johnson's huge 1964 Democratic landslide, California elected a Republican senator by the name of George Murphy. Murphy had been an actor.
There is a current actress by the name of Lynne Jordan (same as the first challenger) who lists herself as being from Long Island (NY) and playing in the age range 35-45. She is 5'7" and it would appear that she didn't start to get (large or small) screen roles until she was in her 30's. I admit that I'm not the world's best person on facial recognition, but it seems to me she looks a lot like the Lynne Jordan who appeared on the first round of this episode. Since the 1966 Lynne Jordan would be in her early-mid 70's or older, I doubt it could be the same person. But perhaps a daughter or niece? A web profile of the current actress. www.backstage.com/u/lynnejordan/
there was a movie made about a horse jumper and I can't remember it, I'm sure it was inspired by one of WML contestants, but I may have missed the show,
Those WML names defined in full (continued) Daly - (i) An extremely verbose fellow. (ii) Mildly creepy, especially around beautiful young women (iii) A corn merchant.
Yes. The summer stock circuit was sometimes divvied up into different geographical sections; in 1966, Jayne was touring the East Coast with GPB, while Carroll Baker was doing, I think, the Mid- and Southwest. Mamie Van Doren was also doing a truncated dinner theater production of it at the same time.
I think Eisenhower's press secretary appeared as a Mr. X to a blindfolded panel. I think he might have also been a guest panelist as well. Sometime in the late 1950s.
Presidential Pilot (Flies President Eisenhower's Plane 'The Columbine'): ua-cam.com/video/w2rlJ1_A3BI/v-deo.html Golf Caddy (Caddies for President Eisenhower): ua-cam.com/video/tyul09DVyNo/v-deo.html Chief House Painter at White House (Washington D.C.): ua-cam.com/video/jvEV8zGMNRo/v-deo.html Secret Service Agent (Guarded President Eisenhower on Recent Trip): ua-cam.com/video/sso3PL-sLbk/v-deo.html I don't recall Eisenhower's press secretary being a contestant, and I can't find any record of it at tv.com, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
+What's My Line? James Hagerty was Eisenhower's Press Secretary. He has the distinction of being the only person to serve the entire two terms as a President's Press Secretary. He was a mystery challenger (along with Charles Boyer) on 3/10/57. James Michener was the guest panelist that episode. He and Martin Gabel were both guest panelists on 6/23/57.
RE: Pierre Salinger. On Thursday 21 November 1963, President Kennedy, Vice President Johnson started a political tour of Texas. On Friday morning, 22 November 1963, Salinger, who was President Kennedy's press secretary, and 6 members of the Kennedy cabinet left Honolulu for a political summit with the Japanese government in Tokyo. About 900 miles west of Honolulu when its Associate Press machine started printing out bulletins about President Kennedy being shot in Dallas. Salinger's assistant, Malcolm Kilduff, was with the presidential-vice presidential entourage in Dallas. The senior official on the plane, secretary of state Dean Rusk, ordered the plane turned around. Salinger, half the cabinet, and that plane returned to Washington arriving that Friday night hours after Air Force One with President Johnson and John Kennedy's body arrived in Washington from Dallas.
Two interesting facts about Mr John Charles Patrick Croghan Daly: he was born in South Africa and he died in Chevy Chase. The place in Maryland, not the star of Fletch.
+ToddSF 94109 Groan. That pun was almost so bad you should be banished to Bennett Cerfdom. And my admonishment (itself a pun) of your pun was about equally bad.
One of the joys of the guests panelists is seeing them completely out of their element sometimes. Some of the GP's are very funny, some play the game very well, and if we're lucky, both. But sometimes you get men and women who, otherwise in life have achieved great things and seem to have their wits very much about them. Yet, put them on the What's My Line panel, and they sometimes, seem like teenagers trying their best to complete an oral exam. Just all a tither.
![What's My Line? - Jayne Mansfield; Don Ameche [panel] (Aug 4, 1957)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nsc1TfqbstM/mqdefault.jpg)
Tony Randall told the story about Jayne and her fans. When the tourist bus would pull up to her house in Hollywood, instead of hiding she would run down the driveway to the street and shout, "Hey! It's me! It's Jayne!". Then she would sign autographs for the tourists. She loved her fans.
That was so sweet of Jayne Mansfield and she's a talented actress.
Jayne Mansfield was well-known for being one of Hollywood's nicest celebrities. She'd leave her Pink Palace, run down to the gate, and greet the tourists with a cherry, "Hi! Here I am! Yes, I am Jayne Mansfield!"
I remember those tour buses. Once one stopped to look at a star's house and Doris Day was riding by on her bicycle. She stopped and pointed out several houses up and down the streets to the fans looking out the bus window. I was there, saw her do this. She was so nice.
As with Marilyn Monroe, one can only wonder what Jayne Mansfield might have gone on to accomplish if she'd lived longer. Rest in peace, Jayne.
@@allenjones3130 If she'd lived longer?? Seriously? You speak as if she committed suicide!! Jayne was in a horrible car accident! She doesn't compare to Marilyn at all! Jayne was phenomenal!
Hard to believe that Jayne had less than a year to live! She was gone too soon!
I'm so happy that Mariska can watch her in old movies and tv
@Kiran Rana I didn't know she had other children!
@Kiran Rana oh cool
@@shelbygates2958 she had 5 children Jayne Marie,miklos Jr,zoltan miriska,and Anthony
Mother and daughter have the same dazzling smile.
I love Jayne's hairstyle here
im 31 but my gosh these women are just knockouts, Arlene's smile, and phyllis wow, but jayne is my dream woman
She's really beautiful
I love how Jane acknowledged the audience. Tragic ending. She’s got a very talented daughter who I watch on Law and Order SVU on a regular basis.
I love watching her daughter too. Good show as well.
Love how courteous everyone is on this show! So refreshing in these times!
Jayne was such a beautiful young lady. No cosmetic surgery on her
Just takes your breath away....RIP pretty lady
Sad that Jayne would die in less than a year. Look how much fun she seems to be having here. Especially her banter with Bennett, after he identity was guessed.
It was like she hadn't had this much fun in years.
Such a beautiful woman with a great personality too. Jayne looks absolutely stunning here. I agree, its very sad. Jayne didn't deserve to meet such a tragic end but at least there is some small comfort in that she didn't have to suffer the possible ignominy and obscurity that may come with old age.
@@mikebarnard7957 This idolizing of celebrities is unfortunately part of our culture
What happened to JM is certainly sad, tragic as it would be for anyone else at such a young age.
@@robertsvorinich890 I agree to some extent but having said that my former comments would still apply to a non celebrity who had similar attributes and died under similar tragic circumstances. It's because of her fame that it came to the public's attention.
@@robertsvorinich890 Unfortunately, some people like to be jealous of someone, who passed tragically 53 years ago.He simply mentioned she died tragically and you had to turn it into something else.
Jayne Mansfield was a cartoon act from what I’ve seen and didn’t know how to change with the time. In fact these sex kittens from the 50s found it hard to change when this is all they were remembered for. Out of all of them Marilyn was the profitable one but she too had to live off of that sexy act till her death. All of them were plagued with issues and leeches in the business and personal life. Mix that with drugs and alcohol they were left floundering trying to find some sanity in their life.
Jayne was very smart and well educated, Piano and violin player beautiful woman. It just Hollywood gave her the wrong image to some audiences.
I truly wish she could have played more serious roles, and not been type cast.
I read she had a genius IQ.
Piano and violin? I didn’t know that.
She was indeed very intelligent and a violin player, but so far as I know her formal education didn’t extend much beyond high school. She graduated from high school at age 17 in 1950. After that she enrolled and attended several universities in Texas and California, studying no
More than a year at each, given her peripatetic life as an aspiring actor.
@@honkymonkey9568 And she spoke five languages.
Jayne Mansfield, Phyllis Newman, and Arlene Francis were all beautiful women. Linda the last contestant was also gorgeous. Jayne Mansfield in her earlier appearance as the mystery guest was quite different from this Jayne Mansfield. She was more herself the first time and this time seemed to portray the image that people had of her at the time.
Including made up accent
this is my 1st seeing Jane up close ..wow Mariska really looks like her mom
I think she looks more like her father.
@@leesher1845 me too.
@@leesher1845 Yea, as she is getting older she looks more like her father, but when younger ages more like her Mom. Jayne Mansfield was cool.
Not in a million years.
she doesn't look anything like her, what a dopey comment
Jayne looks fantastic here! Showing no skin but skintight sequins from head to toe! WOW!
I was 11 when Jayne Mansfield died in that car wreck in Louisiana. I remember it clearly. My family was on vacation and it was front page news in the newspapers in Colorado and at home when we returned later that week. A more morbid piece of news you never saw. The reports were full of details about either scalping or decapitation, though, as it turns out, neither quite happened.
Decapitated, no. But, I think whoever fixed her up for her coffin said there was some scalping which of course he corrected and was hidden under her ever present wig.
Her child already came out publicly and said it was her wig.
@@neildickson5394 Yes, a documentary said her skull was crushed, but no decapitation. So happy her kids survived. Sad that her dogs died in that horrific crash. The documentary also stated that Jayne sat in the back seat for the first part of the Louisiana trip, but had stopped and exchanged seats along the way, putting the children in the back seat and Jayne taking the front middle seat. This action probably saved the children's lives.
Jayne seemed to be so kind and warm and funny. She was a talent gone way too soon. Her charisma is on full display. She knew how to make people feel comfortable.
Also, tho she played dumb, she was actually really smart.
Phyllis Newman was smart and asked a lot of very good questions.
Beautiful Mother. Her love for children and animals was her legacy. Wonderful human. Thank you Jayne aka Mother as you preferred to be called you have my admiration and respect. RIP Vera Jayne Palmer Mansfield. 💖
She was also a brain .it was said she had a very high IQ . how sad that she had to portray her self as a sex bomb. Rip peace ms Mansfield
I Agree With All Of That!! Rest In Peace, Jayne!!
That evening Jayne was more beautiful, and charming than ever...
Such a lady !!!
Wow, Jayne was a beaut!!!! So, so sorry to know of her untimely death at such a young age. . .
RIP Jayne Mansfield (born Vera Jayne Palmer (April 19, 1933 - June 29, 1967)(aged 34) you will truly be missed and you're an amazing and talented actress.
Thank God her children survived, and with no memory.
Jayne Mansfield was so gifted!
Yes and from all the right places.
Few people know that she invented milk duds!
Joe Postove she was well-gifted to supply milk
Joe Postove reminds me of Connie stevens
Joe Postove ur a filthy perverted pig! I think u mean ur mother, grandma and daughter and sister!
Bless her heart. So sad that she had to go so untimely and tragic.
One of Jayne Mansfield's last television appearances.
Tragically, in just 347 days, her life was all over at only 34 years of age. After performing at a nightclub in Biloxi, Mississippi, she rode in a car to New Orleans, Louisiana.
The car she was riding in slammed into the back of a semi-tractor trailer truck that had stopped due to a truck in front of the tractor trailer that was spraying for bugs, and the car in which she was riding went under the truck at nearly 80 miles per hour along with boyfriend Samuel Brody and their driver Ronnie Harrison. They died instantly.
Contrary to popular belief, Jayne was NOT decapitated.
She (Jayne) was NOT decapitated? Then, what really happened to her?
Zachary Dunlap-Tunnage
Severely scalped; cracked/sliced skull which was missing a sizeable chunk [skull] - this accident helped create & enforcement of the "Mansfield bar" (the bar equipped under tractor trailer, etc)
Typo .... enforced*
MsG. Just hearing all of that makes me queasy.
+Zachary Dunlap-Tunnage The decapitation story is false. The story started when a police photo
of the car accident showed what appeared to be a blond head dangling in
the windshield, but in actuality it was her blond wig and perhaps some
of her real hair. She did die of head trauma.
Contestant two: Plastic really took over straws. I remember plenty of paper straws as a kid from that era, but I haven’t seen a paper straw in utter ages.
50 years plus later plastic straws are an environmental abomination.
it doesn't leak through the paper?
Now, you can't get away from waxed paper straws.
Now there are hardly anything but. They are at least recyclable.
The last contestant, Linda Biederman (Rock & Roll Drummer for the Blooming Lot Band in Cincinnati back in 1966) looks lovely indeed.
Those shoulders are making me nervous
I think it gives the first contestant's line away a little bit when it is said that she uses an animal that is not normally found in or near the water, indeed in her case, in or near the water.
Jayne was brilliant.
Just moments prior to her death, Jayne made sure that three of her five children that were with her that night (she had five children before she died), Zoltan, Milkos, and Marisaka were in the back.
It was a good thing she made sure, because had they been in the front, they, too would have been history.
I didn't know that Mariska and her brothers were in the car. I 'm happy they were not seriously hurt. I love her on Law and Order SVU.
Ikr. Three adults & a dog were sitting up front
MsG. IKR? What does that mean?
To think less than a year Jane Died!!! Mariska is Mariska Hartigay from Law and Order. . A whats My Line Panelist, Dorothy Killagen Died in 1965, I always thought She was a Really Beautiful Woman.
MsG. And did they ALL die
Old eagle eyed Dorothy Killgallen would have picked up on John's "drumming motion" at about 23:00 in referring to the apparatus.
I did, too.
I saw that too and it always bothered me that John did that.
Dorothy Kilgallen was a genius.
Jane Mansfield is so unreal it’s like outer space
What a ridiculous line of work. Forcing a horse to jump 40 feet into 10 feet of water. It could be injured or worse. Amazing how in the 60's no thought was ever given to the welfare of animals in entertainment. 😕😕
Jane was a very smart lady who just played a dumb blond and is so sad that she died so tragically and so young.
In 1955, Jayne Mansfield made one of her earliest film appearances, in a dramatic role, in "The Burglar," which took place in part in Atlantic City. At the end of the movie, Jayne and Dan Duryea are watching an acrobatic show at the Steel Pier. At the end of show, for just a few minutes, there is shown a woman jumping a horse into the pool, but it is from a much lower height than 40 feet.
Pierre Salinger was also briefly a senator from California in 1964.
He was running for the seat held by US Senator Claire Engel, who had become partially paralyzed from a brain tumor, and lost his capacity for speech. Engel tried to run for re-election but his health was deteriorating so rapidly that he withdrew in April. Salinger won the Democratic primary against State Controller Alan Cranston, but then Engel died and in August Governor Pat Brown appointed Salinger to the seat. He lost the November general election to Republican George Murphy (a former actor and dancer), and was the only Democratic seat to go Republican in LBJ's Democratic landslide of 1964.
The last contestant: Wow!! What a beautiful woman! :)
and her hair would look very modern & appropriate even today.......
She seems to be tall. Im 6'0 and its always the first thing i notice abiut other women lol
+Storie Smith : Jayne was 5 feet six inches tall and weighed 118 pounds.
@@wiguy3 It's a wig.
Lovely.
She was very beautiful and loveable. RIP
The rock and roll drummer is my cup of tea!!!
Very pretty!
Female drummers are rare and it seems to me that there's a simple reason for it. It isn't a matter of prejudice. Rather it's a matter of not wanting to hide the most attractive member of the band behind a drum kit. That's a major reason why Karen Carpenter eventually stopped drumming and concentrated on singing.
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Phyllis Newman looks gorgeous.
WML is just not the same without Dorothy
Daisy Cassidy, I also am disliking these shows without Dorothy Kilgallen. So I'm going to troll around a bit to find her old shows. She is so missed!
Honey, she died almost 60 years ago ... time to get over it. She has.
It's strange that Jayne seemed to talk in a somewhat ditzy fashion. I've heard she could speak five languages and had an I.Q. of over 160.
I highly doubt it was 160, that would put her at Einstein's IQ level. I don't doubt she's an intelligent lady, she was playing a part here really, but not many have that IQ level.
@Kiran Rana Do you believe I'm writing this from a Penthouse Apt, on Park Avenue, overlooking Central Park?
From what I could discover online, it appears that sometimes Jayne told people her IQ was in the 160’s, while on other occasions she said it was in the high 140’s. From watching her converse on this show, neither seems likely. But online sources and my own superficial impressions can be faulty. And does IQ really matter? Clearly she was a charming person, hard working, motivated to improve and succeed, all of which are signs of intelligence.
@@Theyralltakenfu yes.
@@Patrick3183 When in the City, look up and wave 🙂
A man (don’t know his name) bought the wrecked car that Jayne died in. His idea was to mount it in his garden as some kind of trophy that people would to see. This idea created such a furore that he had to cancel this plan. The last I heard was he was trying to restore it but that was a long time ago
@Michael Naisbitt Scott Michaels from Dearly Departed has that car now and it was displayed at his museum in Hollywood for years which has now closed, but it can be seen on his youtube channel Dearly Departed Tours. Also he has lots of info on Janye Mansfield.
Nice to hear Dorothy's favorite old question about walking down the street with a product and would people stare coming from Phyllis, who is beyond pro as a game player here and in of late.
I noticed Phyllis using "Dorothy's question" too. It actually gave me a pang of sadness for Dorothy all over again. Although Phyllis played the game particularly well with the first contestant in this episode, I could never think of her in Dorothy's league as a game player.
SaveThe TPC So far, I have to say, highly enjoyable as these episodes are, I've only confirmed my prior memory that I stopped actively watching the reruns when they got to the shows after Dorothy's passing. It's just not the same for me. I keep trying to pretend she's just off covering a murder trial somewhere. :(
I did finally get my hands on the one remaining missing episode that's available, 1/6/63 with Bert Lahr, so i will post that after the final episode. I didn't plan it this way, but it will be nice to have one more Dorothy episode to end the series with, and I think this is one a lot of folks never saw, since it appears to have aired on GSN only twice, and one of those times was all the way back in the 1990s (which is why it was so hard to find a copy.)
What's My Line? Thanks Gary.
thanks Gary
What's My Line?
Congratulations on getting that previously missing, rare episode and thanks, as always, for your efforts in bringing all these classic WML episodes to all of us fans! It's nice to have something to look forward to after the last episode, but I have to say I'm getting a little sad at the prospect of coming to the end of the series at all. All good things must come to an end, as they say, but I'm glad you've found a way to stretch this one out a little further.
Are you still planning to post the "WML at 25" special too -- and if so, would that be after the Bert Lahr episode? Also, I know you've been thinking about posting some other shows after you've added all the WML episodes. Have you made any definite decisions about that yet?
Wow, Jayne Mansfield is absolutely gorgeous 😍😍😍😍
Jayne was the most beautiful lady ever to appear on the show, 4 times I believe.
It was not just Jayne Mansfield who tragically died in a car accident during the last week of June 1967.
Earlier that same week, on Monday June 26, French actress Françoise Dorléac (older sister of Catherine Deneuve, known for the likes of "That Man from Rio", "The Manhunt", "Cul-de-sac", "The Young Girls of Rochefort", and "Billion Dollar Brain"), was killed in a car accident in Nice, France.
Please post proof pronto, pics preferred
wow she's gorgeous!
And Mariska Hargity looks a lot like her...
Done live, right after the taping of the September 4, 1966 episode.
Love Bennet's reaction to Phyllis' introduction!
I wonder whatever happened to all of those black and white tv cameras that became useless after about 1967. I think the news departments used black and white film for a little longer.
Joe Postove
A few B&W cameras lived on for 10-15 years, donated to school or college training studios, or became museum pieces. Some of the lenses could be transferred to color cameras, but I'm sure the rest of the B&W stuff went to metal/electronic recyclers. It all had to go to make room for the even-bulkier color stuff. News film cameras could shoot color film, so they lived on into the '70s until practical electronic videotape editing arrived. I went to work for a TV station in '79, just as they finally ripped out their film lab.
*****
It's hard to tell, but at about 19:19, he is clearly blushing at Miss Mansfield's description of him! Actually, after Phyllis's intro, I'm surprised neither she nor anyone else on the panel repeated, in response to Jayne's game, that he was a pussycat. ;)
Joe Postove I have in the past seen local sportscasts in many cases done in Black & White as late as 1970 with a Bulls-Warriors game that took place at the old Cow Palace in Daly City, CA (outside San Francisco).
And that September 4, 1966 episode was the last Black & White episode of "WML?" The show would the following Sunday (September 11, 1966) begin its only season in its original form airing in color.
This would have been Jayne Mansfield last appearance on this show. She died in June 1967.
Female drummer is a knockout
The last contestant was a true natural beauty. I think Bennett "Pussycat" Cerf enjoyed his kiss with Jayne a bit too much. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when he got home to Phyllis. 😉
This was like her third appearance on this show, and each time they guessed her immediately.......so popular , and so stunning...!
Pierre Salinger told Pete Rozelle not to cancel NFL games the Sunday after JFK was shot. Rozelle said it was the biggest mistake he ever made.
Please post proof pronto
@@joeambrose3260 geez, just Google it. It’s a part of well known American history. He was JFKs press secretary. Rozelle had known Salinger from the U of San Francisco classmates and Rozelle contacted Salinger and was told JFK would not want the games canceled.
@@countalucard4226 Then what would the people with no life do ?
Jane Mansfield always and forever ❤️
I wonder what happened to Linda Biederman and The Blooming Lot...
Interesting pronunciation of "demoniacal" by the learned Bennett Cerf at the 2:17 mark--the emphasis is typically placed on the 3rd syllable, but if it's Bennett stressing the 2nd syllable I'll go with it...
Notable here is Jayne Mansfield, who also is the mother of Mariska Hargitay, whom since 1999 has played the much-beloved Det. Olivia Benson on "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit," a series that may very well do what the original series could not: Break the record of 20 seasons the original series is tied with Gunsmoke for longest-running non-animated or non-news prime-time series ("The Simpsons" is the actual non-news prime-time record-holder at 25 seasons and counting).
When Dorothy passed away, Phyllis Newman should have been made her full-time replacement. That might have kept the original version on past it's ending a little over a year after this episode aired.
Dec 02, 2021 SVU is in Season 23
@@tapper701 Yes it is. Obviously that was not the case at the time I wrote my original comment.
WML production staff adored this horse diving into a tank act in Atlantic City. Jordan is like the fourth to appear on WML since the late 1950s.
It was a top attraction at steel peir NJ since the 1920s . Also in Atlantic City , also Revere beach Mass. Often called the " flying horses " popularity of the act waned in the late 60s and died by the 70s .
God bles her soul.
She was a Satanist that hung out with Anton Lavey.
I wish the audience wouldn't clap if they mentioned it. They were bad to give things away.
Bennett actually referred to John by his full name! John was undoubtedly flattered.
Bennett's bow tie at 19:20 cracks me up...maybe I'm just a dork. ;-)
DebbieFaubion
I didn't notice it before you pointed it out, but it does seem to take on a life of its own there, doesn't it?! :)
That's really funny. :) Good eye, DebbieFaublon!
I'm not gonna lie - I rewound it several times because I just kept laughing. It just hit me so funny!
DebbieFaubion
I watched it several times too after you pointed it out! :-)
DebbieFaubion SaveThe TPC I just posted a clip of it to the Facebook group, I find this so hilarious. :) There's a moment in a 4th season episode of Burns and Allen just like this, which I also posted there. But you'll have to be on FB to see it. :)
Guys, cut the crap. Jayne was not decapitated. It was the wig on the hood. At one time, her autopsy photo was on - line. Her head was attached but banged up pretty bad
She was extremely smart but i never saw the physical attraction. She uses same voice everytime she was on the show lol So sad Dorothy was gone by this time... why there hasn't been a movie on her life.... Also, she picked up Marilyns soft voice while filming Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.
Jayne only did Gentleman prefer blondes on stage. There is a movie called the Jayne Mansfield story from 1982. Loni Anderson plays Jayne and Arnold Schwarzenegger plays her husband Mickey.
Jayne Mansfield in post-game interview. Speechless. What was she on?? She must have been something. It's a little disconcerting to see Jayne Mansfield here in 1966. First, her career was sort of in decline. And she is in the count down to her final day in Louisiana, though nobody knows it.
Jayne Mansfield walking out. Speechless.
soulierinvestments
It always makes me sad to see Jayne Mansfield doing her "ditzy blonde" routine. Remember how articulate she was in her first WML appearance? In reality, she was a brilliant woman. Had she lived longer, I wonder whether she would ever have gone back to showing her intelligence, or if she would have been trapped in that sex symbol image until she aged out of it and was forgotten? Sadly, we'll never know...
sort of in decline..her career was in decline for years now... she was only a top attraction for literally a couple of years from 1957 to 1959 or so... soon the public and the studio (20th century fox) realized she was a cheap coarse over the top too blatant too obvious poor man's monroe" without the talent, wit, or empathy from audience, nor was she as beautiful as monroe.... by the time of this tv appearance, she was already for years doing b and c level movies, lowly cabaret and nightclub shows, and regional play work, she was a "has been" and a "joke".. getting work anywhere she could.... don't mean to offend mansfield fans, but the truth is the truth...
The truth is that she was known all over the world.
true, but a curiosity piece.. nothing more...
Don't be a hater. I hate haters
She is the mother of Olivia Benson from Law and Order SVU.
Please post proof pronto
@@razorback9926 I would, but I have a life
@@razorback9926 Thanks, now order me some shrimp egg foo young
I believe this is the fourth horseback diver they've had on the program. A more absurd profession and form of entertainment I cannot think of.
Sounds rather cruel to me.
Watched the diving horse many summers in Atlantic City’s Steel Pier growing up.
Was this ever considered as animal cruelty?
@@LANCSKID I don’t know.
Show was never quite as good once we lost Dorothy but still very good.
So, Mariska Hargitay was two years old at the time of her mother's death and survived the crash? I'm watching WML and studying all of these old actors, watching their movies etc. technically living in 2022, but really living in the 50s and 60s. I live in New Orleans and I'm going to get on the highway and find the spot where JM stopped and had dinner, before she drove to New Orleans and met her untimely death.
Jayne was no dumb blondie. Far from it. Jumping into water upon a horse sounds so cruel.
Being a Satanist IS dumb.
Almost as cruel as making a horse run around a race track.
*_DIVES 40 FEET INTO TANK ON HORSEBACK_*
*_MAKES SODA STRAWS_*
*_ROCK AND ROLL DRUMMER_*
What a terrible fate to await Miss Mansfield.
Step 1. Don't be a Satanist and hang out with Anton Lavey.
Monroe also did
She talked just like a happy version of Jackie Kennedy.
Jayne Mansfield's daughter would go on to become one of the top New York detectives in the Special Victims Unit.
If you looked carefully, you could see that she is unhappy. She manages to fake a smile. That day was the day she annouces her separation from Mat Cimber. All hell broke lose when she then soon travelled South America.
Good television
Corny shite.
All the ladies in this episode are very good looking
In 1958, a huge bunch of Democrats were elected to the U S Senate, including a new senator in California by the name of Clare Engel. He was scheduled for reelection in 1964, but died in summer 1964 of a brain tumor. California Governor Edmund Brown [who appeared on WML in 1958 as a Mr. X contestant] appointed Salinger senator. The idea was to get him on the campaign trail to be elected senator for his own term. In Johnson's huge 1964 Democratic landslide, California elected a Republican senator by the name of George Murphy. Murphy had been an actor.
There is a current actress by the name of Lynne Jordan (same as the first challenger) who lists herself as being from Long Island (NY) and playing in the age range 35-45. She is 5'7" and it would appear that she didn't start to get (large or small) screen roles until she was in her 30's.
I admit that I'm not the world's best person on facial recognition, but it seems to me she looks a lot like the Lynne Jordan who appeared on the first round of this episode. Since the 1966 Lynne Jordan would be in her early-mid 70's or older, I doubt it could be the same person. But perhaps a daughter or niece?
A web profile of the current actress. www.backstage.com/u/lynnejordan/
sorry, they look nothing alike.
Do you really give a squat ?
there was a movie made about a horse jumper and I can't remember it, I'm sure it was inspired by one of WML contestants, but I may have missed the show,
daly was 1 of the best tv host all time top 3 he's just always on it calm funny clear smart
*TV hosts of all time
Those WML names defined in full (continued)
Daly - (i) An extremely verbose fellow. (ii) Mildly creepy, especially around beautiful young women (iii) A corn merchant.
I was married 5 days later in St George Utah! I was almost 16...
Barbara Mowrey I was 17 then
The medals are in the mail
Whoa how
Old was ur husband
Sadly, Jayne had less than a year to live here.
Jayne's daughter Mariska Hargitay that has been on Law & Order for over decade looks a lot like her Mama.
Arlene's dress!
Phyllis Newman was a darn good looking woman!
Were there different productions of "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" at the same time? Just 3 weeks ago, Carroll Baker said that she was gonna star in one.
Good question!
Yes. The summer stock circuit was sometimes divvied up into different geographical sections; in 1966, Jayne was touring the East Coast with GPB, while Carroll Baker was doing, I think, the Mid- and Southwest. Mamie Van Doren was also doing a truncated dinner theater production of it at the same time.
Carroll- the witty and of stunning beauty lady is of Polish ancestors !!! Good for Her !!!
I think that Carroll said that she would be playing in GPB in Indianapolis and in Dallas.
jmccracken1963 GPB?
I think Eisenhower's press secretary appeared as a Mr. X to a blindfolded panel. I think he might have also been a guest panelist as well. Sometime in the late 1950s.
Eisenhower's pilot and golf caddy were also on the show.
Yes. I remember those broadcasts, too. The caddy was one of those employed boys for which WML had such an affinity.
soulierinvestments Especially in the early days of WML, well late 50s.
Presidential Pilot (Flies President Eisenhower's Plane 'The Columbine'): ua-cam.com/video/w2rlJ1_A3BI/v-deo.html
Golf Caddy (Caddies for President Eisenhower): ua-cam.com/video/tyul09DVyNo/v-deo.html
Chief House Painter at White House (Washington D.C.): ua-cam.com/video/jvEV8zGMNRo/v-deo.html
Secret Service Agent (Guarded President Eisenhower on Recent Trip): ua-cam.com/video/sso3PL-sLbk/v-deo.html
I don't recall Eisenhower's press secretary being a contestant, and I can't find any record of it at tv.com, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
+What's My Line?
James Hagerty was Eisenhower's Press Secretary. He has the distinction of being the only person to serve the entire two terms as a President's Press Secretary.
He was a mystery challenger (along with Charles Boyer) on 3/10/57. James Michener was the guest panelist that episode.
He and Martin Gabel were both guest panelists on 6/23/57.
It’s interesting that John has no noticeable accent .
I think Bennett looks like a badger and JCD. A seal per the game they were playing.
Is your product metal? Who knew that drinking straws would one day be made of metal? And the answer would be Yes.
RE: Pierre Salinger. On Thursday 21 November 1963, President Kennedy, Vice President Johnson started a political tour of Texas. On Friday morning, 22 November 1963, Salinger, who was President Kennedy's press secretary, and 6 members of the Kennedy cabinet left Honolulu for a political summit with the Japanese government in Tokyo. About 900 miles west of Honolulu when its Associate Press machine started printing out bulletins about President Kennedy being shot in Dallas. Salinger's assistant, Malcolm Kilduff, was with the presidential-vice presidential entourage in Dallas. The senior official on the plane, secretary of state Dean Rusk, ordered the plane turned around. Salinger, half the cabinet, and that plane returned to Washington arriving that Friday night hours after Air Force One with President Johnson and John Kennedy's body arrived in Washington from Dallas.
hair is beautifull
Two interesting facts about Mr John Charles Patrick Croghan Daly: he was born in South Africa and he died in Chevy Chase. The place in Maryland, not the star of Fletch.
It would be even more interesting if he'd actually died inside of the star of Fletch.
What's My Line? LOL!
Also not the Chevy Chase my dog engages in when a certain type of General Motors car drives by my house.
+ToddSF 94109 Groan. That pun was almost so bad you should be banished to Bennett Cerfdom.
And my admonishment (itself a pun) of your pun was about equally bad.
What's My Line? Nice comment for you here from gcjerryusc!
Bennet I'm sure turn ten shades of red when Jane kissed him .😁
The thumbnail looks like Joey Heatherton
Looks like Connie Stephens.⭐️
One of the joys of the guests panelists is seeing them completely out of their element sometimes.
Some of the GP's are very funny, some play the game very well, and if we're lucky, both.
But sometimes you get men and women who, otherwise in life have achieved great things and seem to have their wits very much about them.
Yet, put them on the What's My Line panel, and they sometimes, seem like teenagers trying their best to complete an oral exam.
Just all a tither.