The Complete Evolution of Red Mages

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    Red Mages (RDMs) were one of the original six jobs introduced within Final Fantasy I and they've been a prominent part of the franchise ever since due to their unique combination of combining Black Magic, White Magic and decent combat skills.
    In fact, such is the importance of Red Mages, that they've appeared directly or directly in almost every single mainline Final Fantasy game! Perhaps the best known though as Final Fantasy I, Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy XI and most recently, Final Fantasy XIV.
    Within this video, we'll be covering them all, detailing how the Job has changed over the years and talking about some allusions, such as Celes Chere, Freya Crescent and Lightning!
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  • @FinalFantasyUnion
    @FinalFantasyUnion  4 роки тому +141

    We hope you guys enjoy our second venture into the various Jobs that exist within the realm of Final Fantasy! Any suggestions for which one should take a look at next?

    • @kclink1579
      @kclink1579 4 роки тому +3

      Time.

    • @ace-trainer-aj
      @ace-trainer-aj 4 роки тому +7

      Summoner, which happens to be my favourite Job/Class.

    • @bigredradish
      @bigredradish 4 роки тому +8

      I feel like Dragoon is a oretty big crowd-pleaser!

    • @mordaunt3050
      @mordaunt3050 4 роки тому +3

      Onion Knight may be an interesting dive to see how by name its vanished while still being around in one way or another

    • @Esperkin272
      @Esperkin272 4 роки тому +3

      Scholar, please!

  • @ace-trainer-aj
    @ace-trainer-aj 4 роки тому +1310

    The most known feature about the Red Mage: being a Jack of All Trades, but a Master of None.
    The second most known feature about the Red Mage: having a Nice Hat.

    • @i.147
      @i.147 4 роки тому +63

      You know what the saying says : "Master of none but oftentimes better than a master of one". Take that, black mages and white mages !

    • @Qardo
      @Qardo 4 роки тому +85

      They are Masters of Style. Seriously. Red Mages figured out that Heroes can look good too.

    • @KaitoKek
      @KaitoKek 4 роки тому +9

      the second feature is enough for me to pick them

    • @SBaby
      @SBaby 4 роки тому +18

      The third most known feature about the Red Mage: Replace the hat with a red helmet and you've got a Red Power Ranger.

    • @Arcanua
      @Arcanua 4 роки тому +3

      MMM no flip those around. ;P

  • @Vidiri
    @Vidiri 4 роки тому +648

    Red mages are not a "jack of all trades but a master of none", they're masters of being fashionable.

    • @MemesToa
      @MemesToa 3 роки тому +22

      Or, to put it in a way that fits both sentiments, "I can make anything look good!"

    • @PansexualDumbass9169
      @PansexualDumbass9169 2 роки тому +9

      Except for in 12 because square caught onto us playing final fantasy series as a fashion game

    • @jayveeberido3521
      @jayveeberido3521 2 роки тому

      ffa2 red mages are so annoying but has the most fun combos like Double cast + Tranq + Sleep

    • @TJDious
      @TJDious Рік тому

      More like jackass of all trades.

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant Рік тому +3

      Lol better comment than vid 2:18 I was gonna criticize 1:55 and right after talk about no Dia. Red mage is really a budget black mage while not paying an arm and a leg for the fighter. You really don't want them to do heavy lifting healing the party while having mp needed for black magic. Took me years to learn and the novel ff1-ff3 fleshes them out but shows the thief getting massive upgrades as a ninja. You don't want a fighter nor black mage in the same party as a red mage as I suffered a lot with their overlap.
      Ff3 gives better weapons before they get power crept, and ff5 they suck (it'll take galuf forever in his last stand as they should've made him go freelancer vs exdeath if stuck with this or God forbid healing staff white mage) until you get to Phoenix tower 100 abp magic pots to trade elixirs for and master dualcast for 999 abp, which is abysmal to grind beforehand.

  • @aidenfaulk6170
    @aidenfaulk6170 4 роки тому +495

    3:09 “But they could never gain access to the bigger/flashier spells like Holy and Flare”
    Ffxiv Redmages: Allow us to VerIntroduce ourselves

    • @maximumoverstat
      @maximumoverstat 4 роки тому +52

      RDM: *VerLaughs in "the necromancer" title*

    • @TheAuron32
      @TheAuron32 4 роки тому +3

      @@maximumoverstat nice man, im chasing that myself... its fun but also brutal...

    • @maximumoverstat
      @maximumoverstat 4 роки тому +5

      @@TheAuron32 I wish I had it, but the red mage is the only job to have obtained it according to the leaderboards, good luck becoming one of the 12 other people that have it though, I wish I had the patience!

    • @TheAuron32
      @TheAuron32 4 роки тому +7

      @@maximumoverstat the first 100 floors are not TOO bad... but its really down to RNG after that...
      i see a lot of "loneyl Exploers" on my server group, Chaos but not once have i seen the necromancer title... yet.

    • @maximumoverstat
      @maximumoverstat 4 роки тому +5

      @@TheAuron32 that's primarily because nobody on our datacenter (chaos) has done it yet, the top on ours is RDM191 followed by RDM180 and GNB 180 (honestly surprising to see a gunbreaker up there)

  • @Spartanz1170
    @Spartanz1170 4 роки тому +604

    Best part of Red Mage? I can look good while doing some magic.

    • @arsetothem
      @arsetothem 4 роки тому +9

      and has better defense and can deal physical damage, than your typical mage

    • @mimmikibilly
      @mimmikibilly 4 роки тому +7

      The most flamboyant class of all.

    • @nichghost5727
      @nichghost5727 4 роки тому +2

      Doble Cast and sword

    • @yannickyoran
      @yannickyoran 4 роки тому +6

      Fashion Fantasy

    • @deathseraph3
      @deathseraph3 3 роки тому +3

      Literally the reason I'm going red mage in 14

  • @itsregal
    @itsregal 4 роки тому +253

    FFXIV's Red Mage has one of the coolest weapon designs i've seen. The Rapier+Focus Crystal combo turning into a staff when casting, then using the sword for the melee attacks is really, really neat.

    • @lune5289
      @lune5289 3 роки тому +6

      As a rdm main i prefer swords

    • @shadenox8164
      @shadenox8164 3 роки тому +13

      @@lune5289 Well you don't have to choose, you get both in one.

    • @agnosticnixie
      @agnosticnixie 2 роки тому +2

      @@lune5289 This is always the feeling whenever the fancy new RDM weapons look more like pointy canes

  • @Sylentmana
    @Sylentmana 4 роки тому +226

    We all know the real reason the Red Mage is so popular: they have style.

  • @lifrael
    @lifrael 4 роки тому +272

    The red mage ability of "dual cast" also makes an appearance in FF9 as both Vivi's and Eikos trance ability (black and white magic respectively) and I only just realised this connection ...

    • @FinalFantasyUnion
      @FinalFantasyUnion  4 роки тому +43

      Nice catch! That's also just made me think deeper into Final Fantasy X as Seymour has the ability to Double/Quadruple cast.

    • @lifrael
      @lifrael 4 роки тому +4

      @@FinalFantasyUnion Thanks! I wouldn't of made that connection with Seymour though, haven't played FFX in like 7 years after running into the Besaid dark aeon ... Really should get back to that!

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 4 роки тому +2

      The Double and Triple spells in 8 also counts

    • @rabidhellhound9714
      @rabidhellhound9714 2 роки тому

      @@FinalFantasyUnion 2x and 4x magic is also a blue material FFVII. You show a screen capture of it in your video but never address it. 4x meteor is always random gamble fun.

  • @Seedmember
    @Seedmember 4 роки тому +292

    Red Mage is pretty much half the reason I started FFXIV. I find the class VERy enjoyable.

    • @simosgaming
      @simosgaming 4 роки тому +8

      Even though my character isn't canonically a RDM, I still really love the job. I'm definitely getting it to 80 and getting it top tier gear, to use along side my DRK in raids!

    • @double2254
      @double2254 4 роки тому +5

      CloudyMrK I appreciate this pun

    • @IosLocarth
      @IosLocarth 4 роки тому +7

      Rez Mage best mage

    • @bangalgar
      @bangalgar 4 роки тому +2

      Babies first dps 🤣

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 4 роки тому

      .... really? Are you proud of that thing you just did? ;)

  • @davidmartin5483
    @davidmartin5483 2 роки тому +36

    I love how red mages in FF11 have more of an armored look to them making it clear that they are also able to meelee attack.

  • @Ricekrispy10
    @Ricekrispy10 4 роки тому +91

    Historical documentaries on Final Fantasy classes is what UA-cam was made for

  • @Sensiav703
    @Sensiav703 4 роки тому +104

    4:46 Says "Blue Mages," shows Geomancers
    *[VISIBLE CONFUSION]*

    • @elihurivera7773
      @elihurivera7773 4 роки тому +15

      Happened with Summoner and Time Mage too xD

  • @Tardisntimbits
    @Tardisntimbits 4 роки тому +62

    Chainspell in FFXI didn't just allow for two spells, it allowed you to cast as many spells as you could get in before the effect to wear off .

    • @lune5289
      @lune5289 3 роки тому +1

      Amazing !

    • @Stammer6
      @Stammer6 3 роки тому +5

      Not to mention they also earn an exclusive (for the most part) trait that plays off the same theme: Fast Cast, reducing the casting and recasting time of all magic. And now Spontaneity, which makes your next spellcast instant, allowing for two to be cast immediately back-to-back like Dualcast :)

  • @Gada101
    @Gada101 4 роки тому +26

    In my mind Red Mage will always have been at its peak in Final Fantasy XI.
    XIV has a unique take on the class with the dashing in and out and balancing the two sides of mages.

  • @charleshenri4871
    @charleshenri4871 4 роки тому +244

    "The ability to use magic has always been asociated with fantasy".
    Well, you're not wrong.

    • @guillermoolivaiii9550
      @guillermoolivaiii9550 4 роки тому +5

      Magic exist in real life too and it is difficult & dangerous to learn certain type of magical arts. Over all, if you are interested, then please be wise on what you look for and I recommend understand yourself before you decide what type of Magic you choose to be interesting, If you are not interested, then it is "ok", just do not be ignorant or treat it as a complete joke.

    • @someguy4405
      @someguy4405 4 роки тому +17

      Guillermo Oliva III
      No, magic does not exist.
      Some things are important to us, and we pay a lot of attention to them, and then we think it’s magic when explainable stuff happens in association with those things as a result of us misunderstanding them.

    • @mfgrobin9657
      @mfgrobin9657 4 роки тому +10

      ​@@guillermoolivaiii9550 Someone believes in something and has the audacity to call anyone Ignorant . Not that it is new that Humans like to believe rather then try to find the truth in the world but, spare us with your frippery. The guy you answered to never talked about it in that form or sense and this video is about a character Job in a Videogame not your Imagination.

    • @The482075
      @The482075 4 роки тому +3

      @@someguy4405 Magic does exist. Any phenomena that we don't yet understand is magic. Once we understand it, it becomes science.

    • @someguy4405
      @someguy4405 4 роки тому +5

      Bobby Ranger
      Reality doesn’t shift just because we know about it. What that’s meant to mean is that we CALL things we don’t understand magic. It doesn’t mean those things literally are.

  • @SplitFinn
    @SplitFinn 4 роки тому +84

    14:33
    Who is that snappily dressed fellow...?

  • @SlvrStryker
    @SlvrStryker 4 роки тому +32

    I feel like something needs to be clarified in the Final Fantasy XI section...
    Chainspell didn't actually allow for a Dualcast-type ability. What it did was, while it was active, allowed a Red Mage to cast any and *every* spell in their spell list instantly. It was treated as their trump card, as it had a very *long* recast timer upon usage, but it was typically considered one of the better special abilities in the game.
    Probably the closest thing to Dualcast would be the Fast Cast trait, with reduced casting times of spells and allowing the Red Mage to cast their spells much quicker than other casters like White and Black Mages.

  • @Castle_Games
    @Castle_Games 2 роки тому +11

    Red mage is probably my favorite class in final fantasy. I’ve even went as far as playing other games with the mind set of “I’m making a red mage.” And it usually goes fairly well. Also currently going through a play through of final fantasy 1 with a party full of red mages.

  • @interhistoria5632
    @interhistoria5632 2 роки тому +9

    Red Mage is possibly my second favorite class behind Blue Mage. I like how it balances things out. With the first game limitations, you could teach the Red Mage the remaining spells you couldn't with Black and White, being only 3 spells in that magic level., while also working as a decent melee fighter. I love jack of all trade types.

  • @jonh4872
    @jonh4872 4 роки тому +27

    Some tidbits you left out about FF11's RDM:
    -They also uniquely specialized in Sword Enhancement Spells. Enfire, Enthunder, etc. This allowed them to imbue their swords with additional elemental damage, not unlike a Mystic Knight. This was later expounded upon in FF Dimensions, where RDM learned Spellblade skills.
    -They did not have Dual Cast, but they had a skill called Chainspell which let them rapidly fire off spells instantly for 60 seconds.
    -They had a single skill called Spontaneity, which let them cast any spell instantly with no recast time.
    -They had MP manipulation in a skill called Convert, which swapped their HP and MP values, so a fully healed RDM with a depleted (but not 0 MP) RDM can restore all their MP instantly and then heal themselves back up.

    • @robertbeste
      @robertbeste 4 роки тому +5

      Don't forget one of their main passive attribute, quick cast, allowed them to cast their spells faster than their BLM or WHM cousins.

    • @atomiccottoncandy4161
      @atomiccottoncandy4161 3 роки тому +2

      Ya but sadly they became what was known as refresh bitc and not a first pick in party's and as more job came out much like other classes became last line pick if none of the other primes were available why i think dancers were a mistake or should have ben a class release at end made to many classes voided but still first class i pick was red

  • @maximumoverstat
    @maximumoverstat 4 роки тому +16

    There's a reason that the only job to reach floor 200 of the palace of the dead in FFXIV is the red mage, it's super powerful as a solo job, able to maintain it's strength in all aspects without going way too far into powerful strikes or huge health pools, the ability to do damage at both range and in melee, alongside self-healing abilities make it crazy powerful in most situations and dualcast obliterates any doubt that they might have trouble, sure it's still super difficult to do (i think maybe 12 characters have done it) but nobody else even comes close, I think there's like a 30 floor lead on it.
    Not that I'm saying they're super overpowered, because really this benefit only shows up in the deep dungeons, as higher-level content is balanced way differently. though they are still a favourite DPS pick I've seen, they hold no chance of resisting tankbuster attacks or out-healing massive heal-checks with only possessing a single target heal.
    I can safely say that red mages are one of my favourite jobs in the series but I'll always be a White mage at heart.
    *and they're so god damn stylish it hurts*

  • @CoopMy
    @CoopMy 4 роки тому +13

    No mention of my boy from crisis core, Genesis was totally a red mage. Great video, I really enjoyed it. All your videos are very informative and have a lot of time and effort put in them. Thank you for making these.

  • @Iriscal
    @Iriscal 4 роки тому +12

    In Final Fantasy XI, Red Mages are actually a master of two trades: Enfeebling Magic, such as Slow, Paralyze, Dia (defense down); and Enhancing Magic, such as Phalanx and En-element spells to enchant weapons.

  • @InsertEgoHere
    @InsertEgoHere 4 роки тому +27

    Oh my gosh, I have always loved the concept of the Red Mage, especially when dualcasting became a thing; Quantity over Quality. I dare say FFXIV is my favorite in style with the Rosy look from Bravely being a close second

    • @kinryuten
      @kinryuten 3 роки тому +3

      My RDM glamour is a rose hairpin with a red Yorha 51 dress on, black leggings, red heels, and black gloves. I tried to mimic the BD Red Mage with FFXIV.

    • @wakipai3D
      @wakipai3D Рік тому +2

      Bravely default?

  • @TrueJunebug
    @TrueJunebug 4 роки тому +5

    In Crisis Core SOLDIERs can be viewed as a sort of reverse Red Mage, being primarily focused on sword combat but also being able to use both black and white magic. In particular I'd point to Genesis as a candidate for Red Mage, using noticeably more magic than the other 1st class SOLDIERs as well as sporting a fashionable red outfit. Sadly no hat though.

  • @od1401
    @od1401 4 роки тому +5

    Definitely one of the coolest classes both in looks and philosophy. So much of gaming is about min maxing, versatility is a hideously underutilised gameplay route in multiplayer or roleplaying games. It's normally either not done at all or not done well. Dualcast is a perfect way of giving red mages their own strength beyond just versatility.

    • @Observer5577
      @Observer5577 4 роки тому

      That's exactly why I love jack of all trades characters in rpgs!

  • @ViscoSand
    @ViscoSand 4 роки тому +4

    An interesting theory in FFXV is that the Caelum/Fleuret families represent black and white mages respectively. But the hunter Dave and his family show magical abilities with the capacity to seal daemons and create healing potions. In addition their last name Auburnbrie roughly means "red royalty/nobility".

  • @Fishingishard
    @Fishingishard 4 роки тому +25

    Red Mage?
    More like BEST MAGE

  • @JonRON2000
    @JonRON2000 4 роки тому +55

    Red XIII is a Red Mage. Mind blown.

    • @AkaiAzul
      @AkaiAzul 4 роки тому +17

      I’ve always considered him Red Mage-y. What blew my mind was is if you consider 13 as the 13th alphabet character, he became Red M.

    • @theflashgordon193
      @theflashgordon193 4 роки тому +1

      he is more a blue mage

    • @JonRON2000
      @JonRON2000 4 роки тому +11

      @@theflashgordon193 no, he's not. Nothing about him is Blue Mage. Save for finding an Enemy Skill materia where you meet him but that seems more related to Hojo's "Specimen" as it only appears once the boss is defeated.

    • @tasselhoff1293
      @tasselhoff1293 4 роки тому

      Lol red13 is not a redmage

    • @theflashgordon193
      @theflashgordon193 4 роки тому +7

      ​@@JonRON2000 you make a point . I have alway assume that because of this fact. also Enemy Skill in French is called "sentir" wich you can translate as feel or sense.
      Red XIII is a kind of beast so I have assume that it make sense that it was relate to him for me

  • @lucasl3657
    @lucasl3657 4 роки тому +11

    One of my favorite classes, in addition to Dragoons. So stylish and useful in a variety of situations.

  • @rodneytheredmage3436
    @rodneytheredmage3436 4 роки тому +14

    "Jack-of-all-trades, master of none... ...Is oftentimes better than master of one " RedMage

  • @TazTheYellow
    @TazTheYellow 4 роки тому +8

    Veteran Red Mage of Vana'diel here. I appreciate the high-quality video thoroughly covering the history of my favorite job, as well as explaining what I love about it so much. While "Doublecast" had to be alluded to with the ridiculously powerful Chainspell for the real-time game, we did get a version as close to the original implementation as you could get within those confines with Spontaneity, an ability that sets the cast and recast time of your next spell to zero, effectively allowing you to cast it twice in a row if you so pleased.
    Something I feel that I have to defend about Final Fantasy III's implementation in particular is how awesome it still was, despite that game's blatant tiering system (disclaimer: I only played the DS version). While its magic implementation was inevitably relegated to utility spells by endgame, it still had access to some of the most powerful weapons and light armor in the game, such as Excalibur and Aegis. I defeated the Cloud of Darkness with Ingus as a Red Mage, while Luneth was a Summoner, Arc a Ninja, and Refia a Devout.

    • @kr3zycatmansperspective627
      @kr3zycatmansperspective627 6 місяців тому

      I was a ff11 bard. Had the relic flute and the empy harp. That bard made my linkshell very strong.

  • @trance1215
    @trance1215 4 роки тому +25

    RDM in FFXI is its best iteration. Chainspell stun, best at kiting and often at tanking in many situations. Critically important enfeebles. Heck yeah RDM.

    • @stevemartinez1360
      @stevemartinez1360 4 роки тому +9

      trancerchemist really FFXI’s job system was the best iteration. With the sub jobs and all the equipment variation jobs were so ridiculously versatile.

    • @ScottRobinson76
      @ScottRobinson76 3 роки тому +4

      Loved FFXI and my Red Mage

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 3 роки тому +1

      Original. He was overpowered. The only spellcaster needed. You have fast, exit, and plenty of cure. Elemental magic is just icing, the items are enough already. His ability to use silver swords and acceptable armor early on left him nearly as good as a fighter. Ninja becomes a substitute later. You gain more tanking ability, but lack cure and exit.

  • @mogiworkshop
    @mogiworkshop 4 роки тому +13

    Evolutions of Dark Knight, it's one of my favourite classes

  • @DrakonLameth
    @DrakonLameth 4 роки тому +3

    The bit about Celes and her being officially a Rune Fencer, and the FF XI section (and the bits about FF III's Scholar job) reminds me that there's basically 3 versions of the hybrid caster/melee that Red Mage represents: The middle ground of Red Mage itself, the magic focused Scholar (who trades their physical skills for extra magical might), and the physically gifted Rune Fencer (who trades a large amount of their magic for physical skills).

  • @cstaie85
    @cstaie85 4 роки тому +5

    FF14 did an amazing job exemplifying what Red Mage is. Allowing us to focus on casting then switch to melee for finishers. it is by far a great example to the Jack of all trades with it's support abilities, healing and damage.

    • @stevemartinez1360
      @stevemartinez1360 4 роки тому

      Promecia PS4 Gaming what support abilities?

    • @cstaie85
      @cstaie85 4 роки тому

      @@stevemartinez1360 Their main support ability is Embolden with the self MAG Buff and party wide Physical Damage buff. They sadly no longer have mana shift.

    • @stevemartinez1360
      @stevemartinez1360 4 роки тому

      Promecia PS4 Gaming I see, just wondered if they had added anything in shadowbringers. It’s really shitty that they took mana shift.

  • @MooseyJake
    @MooseyJake 4 роки тому +2

    Something quite common in FFXIV is the flexibility of the red mage in raid as it is quite commonly referred to as a "Res mage" due to the duelcast meaning it can pull off quicker resurrection than healers

  • @IosLocarth
    @IosLocarth 4 роки тому +4

    Also red Mage is super great for progging content in FF14 (I am a red Mage main) due to Dualcast allowing us to instantly revive fallen allies, which is especially useful when all the healers die

  • @bluejazzman
    @bluejazzman 3 роки тому +17

    Love this “evolution of” series - would you be interested in doing one about the monk class?

  • @JonFawkes
    @JonFawkes 4 роки тому +11

    Red Mage has always been my favorite class in any FF game, but FF14's red mage is so stylish there's no comparison

  • @ludofranca8884
    @ludofranca8884 4 роки тому +6

    Just an extra about Red Mage on FFTA and 2 is that although it could not cast higher spells it has an unique support skill called Magic Power+ that had no cost at all and made base level magic as good as the average ones and it still can combo with Dual/Double Cast making it SUPER USEFUL

    • @kinryuten
      @kinryuten 3 роки тому

      Red Mage/Summoner was soooo good in that game.

  • @jameswatson1576
    @jameswatson1576 4 роки тому +15

    You forgot to mention that FF9 had NPC red mages walking around.

  • @PriceAintRight
    @PriceAintRight 4 роки тому +20

    -VerSits and watches this delightful video-
    Red Mage forever.

  • @moebro101
    @moebro101 4 роки тому +2

    I think that a case can be made for Selphie being a red mage as her limit break can be used to cast both black and white magic while also having the ability to cast up to 3 times.

  • @EX7Sonic
    @EX7Sonic 4 роки тому +8

    Holy crap, the Red XIII revelation just blew my mind. How did I not see this? Also there are red mages in FFIX. It's an npc though (they're labeled as Red Mage and you run into them in Lindblum).

    • @christopheletourneau5057
      @christopheletourneau5057 3 роки тому

      Also, Red XIII does equip headdresses such as clip, pin, barrette and comb which make it an elegant character borrowing the red mage trend of being fashionistas

  • @redmage8719
    @redmage8719 3 роки тому +3

    Red Mages are versatile in addition to being the most stylish job class of all time not to mention being downright AWESOME!!! 😃😃😃

  • @MB-go8mi
    @MB-go8mi 4 роки тому +9

    If limit skills are any indication of job classes, Selphie from FF8 could definitely be considered a red mage. Though her limit skill "Slots" is based on rng, she can use her limit to cast high level white magic, such as full cure and wall, and could also cast from an array of black magic with the added feature of casting them multiple times in one turn.

  • @bathestyles6525
    @bathestyles6525 11 місяців тому +2

    As someone who’s sorta okay at a lot of things, but not really great at anything, I’ve always resonated with the Red Mage. And I’m also very glad their design is as cool as it is lol

  • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
    @shytendeakatamanoir9740 4 роки тому +8

    FFTA Red Mages are also quite close to Red XIII actually, since they are quite fast, allowing them to act more often than their White or Black counterpart (and their supporting role is expanded in FFTA2, with access to the Green Mages' support options)

  • @lysanderxx1664
    @lysanderxx1664 4 роки тому +3

    It was also interesting how you could get an accessory in FFVI that Grant's doublecast.
    Excellent history video!

  • @pierce607
    @pierce607 4 роки тому +1

    I loved Red Mage on FFXI. It was fantastic. And so versatile! Depending on your subjob, there were so many different things you were able to do in a group, and solo. Thanks for the great video!

  • @0nfir34h1m
    @0nfir34h1m 4 роки тому +2

    This breakdown is great, and very interesting as someone getting into the final fantasy series as an adult. I would love a breakdown of both A: all of the jobs In a similar format to this, and B: a breakdown of each character's job across the games where each character has a set role.

  • @TheAuron32
    @TheAuron32 4 роки тому +20

    Seeing Alisea as an RDM was a nice way to get me interested in trying the job, i've never liked casters in 14, cant stand the turret style of gameplay, but seeing her (and that SWEET sword/staff combo) made me give it a shot. its now my 3rd main job, with Warrior being 1st and Scholar 2nd, mainly because i love those two roles more.
    Lightning kind of broke the rule, her stats are actually very high, she has the highest combined total of strength and magic, add that her awesome chain building skills, mainly her unique attack Army of One, and she is pretty damn scary...

    • @LookItIsHope
      @LookItIsHope 4 роки тому +1

      The only real turret in the caster role is BLM. SMN and RDM are both very mobile, with SMN having no cast times every time it enters its trances.

    • @TheAuron32
      @TheAuron32 4 роки тому

      4NewHop3 i will give summoner a shot, i got it leveled thanks to Scholar.
      it’s just a bit of gearing up i need to do, then practice the rotation.

    • @TheAuron32
      @TheAuron32 4 роки тому

      @@LookItIsHope okay with 5.1 now out i have GOT to play SMN...

    • @Tyranastrasza
      @Tyranastrasza 4 роки тому

      @@LookItIsHope Even BLM is not that static with triple cast, swiftcast, xenoglossy and all the procs, not to mention his ability to tp all over the field.
      Movement and knowledge of the fight is in fact the way to distinguish good and bad BLMs, the DPS cycle being quite simple.

    • @TheAuron32
      @TheAuron32 3 роки тому

      @@Tyranastrasza i recently played it for shits and giggles due to no content cos the worlds on fire.... holy shit its not as turret like as i feared, you can move a fair bit now.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 4 роки тому +4

    Red mage in Bravely Default: a good intermediary class when not needing the Black and white mages for main classes. Also in Bravely Second the good measure ability unlocked by the bishop class allows for dualcast and the added subclasses allows for a really good utility casting.

  • @Luzeldon
    @Luzeldon 4 роки тому +2

    Well one thing of note is that ever since the very first iteration, support magic does not rely on your magic stats, so red mages are naturally more suited towards support. In the original game, spells from the temper, haste, and protect line are better given to red mage so your black and white mages can commit to their job full time(dps and healing), heck, they can even cast those on themselves and start being very competent at dealing damage.

  • @SimBir08
    @SimBir08 4 роки тому +12

    Chainspell wasn't technically dual cast, it allowed you to continuously cast spells for 60 seconds. Spontaneity was closer to dual cast..

  • @Alexdestiny21
    @Alexdestiny21 4 роки тому +7

    I think my favorite Red Mage would be Freya, as she seems to be the strongest thanks to her hybrid job with Dragoon.
    But this is probably cause aside of being able to change jobs, I have not interacted with other official red mages.

  • @XIV__
    @XIV__ 4 роки тому +13

    Please do Dragoon. They’re second to Red mages as my favorite class.

    • @33link333
      @33link333 4 роки тому +1

      I second this notion

  • @KainHighwind27
    @KainHighwind27 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! Red Mage is my 2nd favorite job in the series :D . I'd love to see one of these videos about Dragoons!

  • @roastpork5437
    @roastpork5437 4 роки тому +8

    Fast cast 2 hour -> raise -> raise -> raise -> raise -> raise -> convert -> raise -> raise -> raise -> raise
    Many FFXI battles have been saved by a good RDM.

    • @kaollachan
      @kaollachan 3 роки тому

      that of chainspell + stun on seiryu or other boss battle to 30 sec on lock :)

  • @Arydis4
    @Arydis4 4 роки тому +12

    Favorite incarnation is 8-bit theater’s red mage

    • @moisesmela5091
      @moisesmela5091 4 роки тому +2

      Oh yeah, I could quote 8BT's Red Mage all day long. Especially the ice cold fusion reactor part.

  • @alexanderbassett2901
    @alexanderbassett2901 4 роки тому +6

    Important note on ffxi iteration. RDM excelled at enfeebling and enhancing magic more than other classes and had enspells that were mostly unique to them, as well as dispel.

  • @zackwilson4607
    @zackwilson4607 2 роки тому +1

    In 12 I had Vaan as a knight/red mage and gave him advanced the lvl3 elemental spells so any enemies that were weak to something were getting pelted by vaan and if no weaknesses could be exploited he had his great sword to deal massive damage... he was also good support. He was my everything character.

  • @Mystrasun
    @Mystrasun 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this video! I've always loved classes that can mix magic with melee and as a relative newbie to final fantasy in general, it's great to have a resource like this to help me understand the Red Mage's role in the game series's lore :)

  • @harryclevenger4851
    @harryclevenger4851 4 роки тому +3

    RDM was by FAR my favorite job in FFXI. So much versatility. Almost any party is instantly made better by it's inclusion. And when I didn't feel like partying, or wanted to NM hunt alone, or duo with my wife, it was well suited for solo or duo play. Many times, I would solo in areas where parties of my level we working (tho at a slower rate, I admit). Still, enfeebling, buffing, healing, teleporting, dealing damage, even pulling, or backup tanking, this mage can do it all, rather than being tied down to one boring job all the time.

  • @carolinedavis8339
    @carolinedavis8339 4 роки тому +3

    About time~ Red Mage has always been my favorite class~ I have even played a version in DnD based on the FFXIV one~

  • @seanscarborough4023
    @seanscarborough4023 4 роки тому

    Can’t wait for the next one. Great job man

  • @houstonhall9529
    @houstonhall9529 3 роки тому

    I love this informative style of video. Great work. Thank you.

  • @TearDownGenesis
    @TearDownGenesis 4 роки тому +22

    Do "Evolution: Cid"

  • @panorenji
    @panorenji 4 роки тому +44

    You didn't even mention FF9's NPCs :(

    • @ErikA-yf4xw
      @ErikA-yf4xw 4 роки тому +3

      He showed the FF9 dragoon at the start and put it next to a red mage lol

    • @justinwebster8776
      @justinwebster8776 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah the Red Mage NPC in Alexandria comes to mind

    • @Wafflemage
      @Wafflemage 4 роки тому +2

      Unusual, considering they are wandering all over the world of FF9.

    • @danielhenderson9719
      @danielhenderson9719 4 роки тому +1

      I’m disappointed at how far down I had to scroll to see this comment. It’s immediately what I thought of when he got to FFIX and began comparing Freya to RDM. 🙄

  • @PregnantOrc
    @PregnantOrc 4 роки тому +2

    Selphies limit break Slot makes use of both Black and White spells as well as having some unique spells. It also casts three spells making it a Triple-cast rather than a Dual-cast but it is in the spirit of it. Her ultimate weapon also boasts excellent accuracy and while nun-chucks are not classical swords or rapiers they are very much a martial style weapon rather than a more magically themed weapon like a cane, wand or staff.
    So while only a small aspect I think its at least worth a shout-out.

  • @henrymariscal9632
    @henrymariscal9632 4 роки тому +1

    I was hoping you would do this class after Blue Mage! Red Mage is my favorite. Thank you for this!!!!

  • @Nimohtar
    @Nimohtar 4 роки тому +4

    great video on the red mage! one little side note you missed on its evolution or de-evolution, in FF11 they had a unique ability to enhance there own weapon with magic damage, allowing them to wield there weapon and also hit with elemental damage at the same time, in a sense combining the two style into one fighting style, kinda like how FF14 enhanced melee fighting is, but you get to choose which element to enhance your weapon with, in stead of simply being "enhanced"

  • @TheGunmanChannel
    @TheGunmanChannel 4 роки тому +15

    What a brilliant video

  • @jeffrapier947
    @jeffrapier947 3 роки тому +2

    Red Mage has always been my favorite FF job. I did the 4 Red Mage run through FFI (by far the easiest of the single class playthroughs), I started my FFXI play time as Red Mage (switched to White main later as it was easier to get groups and cheaper to gear and get spells), and it is also my favorite job to play in FFXIV.

  • @ptbunz2501
    @ptbunz2501 4 роки тому

    Such a great vid, hope you do one on monk/fighter next ❤

  • @Seegtease
    @Seegtease 4 роки тому +5

    I like the enfeebling and fast casting version. However, I'd say it seems like time mage kind of merged with red mage when they started getting enhancement and enfeebling as their focus, because it seems like those are staple time mage qualities. In FFXI, for example, I remember spending a lot of time casting haste and slow. Sure felt like a time mage to me. And spells like refresh, which make you get MP back faster, also feel time-magey.

  • @dcdrizzz3041
    @dcdrizzz3041 4 роки тому +9

    I essentially made one of my D&D characters into a red mage. Definitely one of my favorite classes, there's just something I love about versatility and options.

  • @jameshuynh-d1223
    @jameshuynh-d1223 4 роки тому

    Wow I never knew there was so much to a single class. I enjoyed this video a lot!

  • @kdcampo
    @kdcampo 4 роки тому

    love running red mage in ff14. its my 2nd main and i love it. great video, always love your thoughts on these kinds of subjects.

  • @retrogamerdad9621
    @retrogamerdad9621 4 роки тому +4

    Being a red mage type person, this was an enjoyable video, thank you.

  • @devilboyr85
    @devilboyr85 4 роки тому +16

    Ff11 and 14 did a good job with the RDM. I mained RDM in 11 but second in 14

    • @baez1301
      @baez1301 4 роки тому +2

      How is RDM a good incarnation in FFXIV? Is fucking horrible, the class is just a BLM in red.

    • @Jkapricorn
      @Jkapricorn 4 роки тому +2

      @@baez1301 I agree with this statement , XIV RDM is not the Best incarnation, i feel like it's the worst

  • @genesisSOC
    @genesisSOC 4 роки тому

    Great job on the video, I'm happy you referenced FF Dimensions and even showed a Dimensions 2 image, but I wish you would've showed some Dimensions 1 images too haha. If you ever need any, I'm more than happy to take them and send them to you personally as I replay that game several times a year and love it. My favorite red mage are those in FF Dimensions, because although they fall off hard late game, they're super useful early to mid game with perfect balance as you would expect them to have and even come with the super awesome magic sword ability, allowing them to use physical sword attacks imbued with spells like fire, cure, osmose and status effects like petrify. You can even one shot many weaker enemies with petrify blade, or turn your more physical heavy red mages into competent healers with cure sword. And of course, they get Dualcast at job level 20, allowing you to turn your heavier mages into even better machines like double casting Protectga then Shellga in one turn, or double Holy, or double Flare, or double Ultima. For main line games, I think FF1 is still my favorite red mage since it still remains viable late game and isn't just a stepping stone for other mages.

  • @destroyerinazuma96
    @destroyerinazuma96 4 роки тому +2

    One of my favourite classes from nds ff3 (though I forgot how badass the black belt is lol). My traditional party was a "Tank", a White Mage, a Black Mage and a Red Mage. Currently thinking about how to emulate it in DnD.

  • @Agent719
    @Agent719 4 роки тому +5

    I always liked the Red Mage class and concept, but it really seems like a lot of the games made the concept either redundant or all encompassing. With everybody being able to attack and use magic to some degree.

  • @VitaminJ7734
    @VitaminJ7734 4 роки тому +12

    No mention of Final fantasy dimensions? They had the most iconic red mage! Perhaps the one time a red mage character played a major role

    • @bladedge1996
      @bladedge1996 4 роки тому +1

      VitaminJ7734 dimensions itself was such an amazing game

    • @cheffdonty
      @cheffdonty 4 роки тому +2

      I would argue that Alisae plays a major role in XIV, though she admittedly doesn't come into the story as a red mage until you're a ways in. I always thought of Elgo as a sage but his clothes do have that red mage style.

  • @valentinosadventure
    @valentinosadventure 4 роки тому

    Love this video ! Blue mage evolution was awesome as well !

  • @brandonstansberry3111
    @brandonstansberry3111 4 роки тому

    I really enjoyed this video! Here hoping for a complete evolution of Dragoon!

  • @TheAzulupus
    @TheAzulupus 4 роки тому +16

    You seem to have misunderstood ff11s "ChainSpell" It did not allow you to cast only 2 spells. It removed the casting time of you spells for 1 minute, So it allowed the Rdm to spam spells in an Oh crap situation. and it was not a skill they could do very often as it was the red mage 2 hour ability (1 hour in future patchs) They were notably used as main healers during leveling because of refresh. Having a rdm pair up with a brd or cor in a party ment the rdm never needed to Rest to regain MP like a whm would need to (Meaning less time waiting and more killing). Rdm also had the added benifit of being the best enfeebiler in the game. So there were not a jack of all trades in that game, in some respects they were hands down better then a white mage for healing. Another fact if you were having a Smn in your party it was almost nessasery to have a RDM healer and a BRD in the party to keep up with the mana cost of keeping up a 2-3 Avatar buff rotation aswell as useing predator claws or double slap... Something i left out, If a rdm was melee attacking in a party they were a bad rdm, them auto attacking ment the monsters tp rose faster meaning you would take more damege overall from being hit by more TP moves. (Sorry for the wall of text)

    • @PedroE
      @PedroE 4 роки тому +2

      Just have to add the legendary Avesta in the zilart days soloing Genbu and other crazy stuff.

    • @aaronpop0083
      @aaronpop0083 4 роки тому +2

      It's exactly right. I was a rdm in ff11. Better name for rdm was refresh whore. Rdm/nin soloing was the best though.

    • @baez1301
      @baez1301 4 роки тому +1

      RDM/WHM was for pussies. Also if you used a dagger the TP gain on mobs was minimal.

  • @Knifeys
    @Knifeys 4 роки тому +7

    I still regret not maining rdm in XI, had a couple good rdm friends that could solo NMs you weren't meant to be able to solo, and would often duo with them. Ahh good times... beadeaux [s] Im looking at you >.> XD

  • @jeffreybutler9059
    @jeffreybutler9059 4 роки тому

    Love you class evolution series. Please do the monk class next!

  • @Lional
    @Lional 3 роки тому

    I like how you have Rua in almost all of your ffxi vids lol

  • @zergeistrush460
    @zergeistrush460 4 роки тому +4

    I don't know why, but I've always been fond of red mages. Their ability to do a bit of everything is nice even if they cant learn the strongest spells or wield the strongest weapons

  • @Jostanos
    @Jostanos 4 роки тому +5

    Of the Red mage versions I like the: Final Fantasy III DS Remake, Final Fantasy V, and the Bravely Default & Bravely Second versions.

  • @mudkinpz4682
    @mudkinpz4682 4 роки тому

    Before finishing the video, I remembered that I love playing red mage in chocobo's mystery dungeon: every buddy, I was hoping for a mention of the game, with higher SP costs, but still being able to use white and black magic, loved the video nonetheless

  • @ODUBlue
    @ODUBlue 25 днів тому +1

    Red Mages were my favorite from the moment I saw them. Christmas Morning 1999, in Final Anthology. Had just finished VII, which revolutionized to my young brain the kinds of intrigue, depth, emotion, and a story a video game could provide. I'll never forget the night I beat VII. My first RPG. It was days or weeks before V, VI, & VIII would be unwrapped, which was the perfect time to have completed it, turned out.
    V is one of the most iconic examples of how to introduce Classes ("Jobs" my TT group friends had to correct me on for months). It was the 3rd FF RPG I ever played.) and will rank in the top 5 for me unlike most of the population. 😂

  • @piedpiper1172
    @piedpiper1172 4 роки тому +3

    Lightning as RDM headcanon ACCEPTED

  • @emreoberheide1874
    @emreoberheide1874 4 роки тому +10

    I think you missed the Dimension Series so only in Dimension 1 there were Jobs and the Red mage is one of the best classes in the beginning to get fusion magic and Also the Main Charakter aigis (jeah a dude) starts relativily close to be a Red mage since He starts with both White and Black magic and the Red mage is the first class you meet with in a Charakter who joins you in the first chapter and later Returns as magus so He dived deeper in his Black mage side
    also the Red mage in Dimension learns the skill atune blade which works similar to ffvi runic
    and Also learns magic blade to work as a spell blade in which He even excells

    • @reidwallace4258
      @reidwallace4258 4 роки тому

      wat

    • @emreoberheide1874
      @emreoberheide1874 4 роки тому

      if they would have taken ff Dimensions with in this Video they would have perfect expamples for why celes is a Red mage.
      and that there are games that have Red mages as Main Charakters

    • @reidwallace4258
      @reidwallace4258 4 роки тому

      @@emreoberheide1874 isn't that the awful mobile game not even made by square..?

    • @emreoberheide1874
      @emreoberheide1874 4 роки тому

      final fantasy Dimensions 1 is Not a terrible made game and is made from square

    • @reidwallace4258
      @reidwallace4258 4 роки тому

      @@emreoberheide1874
      "This article is about the 2010 mobile game. For the unrelated 1989 Game Boy game, see The Final Fantasy Legend.
      Final Fantasy Dimensions
      Final Fantasy Legends Logo.png
      Game artwork by Yoshitaka Amano depicting Vata (left) and The Mask (right)
      Developer(s) Matrix Software
      Square Enix
      Publisher(s) Square Enix
      Director(s) Toshio Akiyama
      Producer(s) Takashi Tokita
      Artist(s) Akira Oguro
      Composer(s) Naoshi Mizuta
      Series Final Fantasy
      Platform(s) FOMA 903i, iOS, Android
      Release FOMA 903i
      JP: September 6, 2010
      au
      JP: December 9, 2010
      iOS
      WW: August 31, 2012
      Android
      JP: August 31, 2012
      WW: December 21, 2012
      Genre(s) Role-playing game
      Mode(s) Single-player
      Final Fantasy Dimensions[1] is a role-playing video game developed by Matrix Software and published by Square Enix for mobile devices."

  • @sikViduser
    @sikViduser 3 роки тому

    So I'm doing this hack in Final Fantasy Tactics where I replace the Oracle with a Red Mage job class and I've been trying to figure out how to balance it out... and this video has helped me a great deal in what spells, abilities and stats to give them. Thanks!

  • @PurpleSnake
    @PurpleSnake 4 роки тому

    Great video! If I may come with a suggestion for a future video I would personally love to see the evolution of the classic sword user, I.E. the Fighter/Warrior (depending on what game you play), the Knight, the Paladin and the Dark Knight (where the last two essentially are light and dark evolutions of the knight).