Everything runs great and looks pretty Brand new. what me and everyone should be thinking about is, is longevity and repair cost even more so with companies john deere
8:11 could you do a video on using the wash port? I see a lot of riding mower videos with people saying the wash port is worthless, doesn't clean the deck very well. I've even seen small engine mechanics saying don't use the wash port, it'll cause the deck to rust faster, or it's not good for the bearings in the spindles. I think they're probably all full of crap, or they're just not using it right, or they didn't RTFM. Or maybe the instructions in the manual aren't very good, I don't know. What do you think of the wash port?
I have a quick question. When are the new 2024 lawn tractors coming out? Especially the S180 54 inch cut? Thanks for the great video on how to operate the lawn tractor. Thanks, John...🙂
you mention that there are only 3 grease points on the front of the S170. The 2023 S170 I looked at from Lowes also had 1 on each front wheel bearing. Are there difference in the same model???
Sorry, I wasn't very clear in my question. You state/show 3 on the front of your S170. 1 on each side axle spindle hub and 1 on the axle pivot point. My S170 has 5 on the front. The 3 you show and then 1 on each front wheel hub itself. It looked like your S170 was missing the wheel hub zerts. That's what has me confused@@WesternEquipment
@@kelh9329 I can tell you from experience, the X350 is WAY better in every category, so if I were you I would get the X350, and if that's too much then the S170 or S160 is way more bang for your buck then the S240.
ours is falling apart - first we modded the deck so it doesn't cut the belt - e brake handle came off in my hand - fuel ga. shows I don't what it means - rear mow thing failed too - junk
Random comment but I would be interested in the significance of any of the John Deere labels engine. Does it have an impact on replacement parts? Warranty? Why don’t other mower manufacturers relabel the Kawasaki, Briggs, or Koehler engines? Is this worth a video? What are pros and cons of the labeling if any?
I'm look at this or the S180. The only real difference I can see is the HP and deck size. Looks as if all the features are the same / similar. Anything I am missing? Thank you.
Brent, looking at the s240 versus s170. I like the feel and looks of 170 but I know the scuttle talk between Briggs and Kawasaki So, extend life Briggs what does that mean? What did they do to extend its life? If I order a 170 the first option I’m buying is the kit to convert it back to a normal oil change, which I’m sure that change alone will help extend its life 😊. Im not sure how a filled used oil filter can be recycled or can you dump the oil from the filter once removed. Appreciate your advice and you definitely know your product well. Lastly do you have or can you produce a video about the edge and accel decks pros and cons. Thanks.
Prices being almost equal I'd take the s240 with the smaller 42" deck. If you've got another $300 then get the s240 48". The s240 gets better gripping tires,and the accel deep deck leaves a beautiful cut at a higher speed so you can get done faster. You can also buy the mulch control kit that allows you to switch from mulching to side discharge at the flip of a lever. The Kawasaki is a fair bit more reliable than most engines. From what I understand the extended life Briggs engines have better air filtration and better valves and valve seats. I wish briggs and Stratton spent some time deciphering their engine stuff for the public
@@peyote777 watch a video review/ walkaround of the s240 by western equipment on UA-cam. The seat is adjustable and the panel that's in the way of the oil change simply flips up out if the way to change the oil. Wish youd of talked to a salesman,they're actually pretty good machines
I've broken 5...yes 5 of the orange brake levers so far on my 100 series since I've bought it new in 2021. It's plastic with a little tap attached to metal. It will literally snap and pull right off. I expect better from American made.
Kaleb, that’s a stupid question. I expected it to be a better tractor with better implements than other less expensive brands. I made the mistake of buying it while shopping for other stuff at Lowes and just went with what I thought was the best brand and the top model they had. After the problems, i went and looked at a cub cadet for the same price and it was way nicer. And im not going to spend 5-10k to cut grass on my little lot. No brand especially a Premium brand should ever put a plastic impeller in a snow blower. Ive had 3 no name push blowers that were steel. Jd wants something like $2000 for that pos? Like i said they are resting on their laurels and taking advantage of people’s trust in their name. That’s why I posted this to make people aware. So now if I want a tractor with a decent snowblower i have to sell my JD at a loss and start over. This Premium brand is inferior to other entry level tractors by other brands. Oh not only that, but you have to buy a kit and tear stuff apart in order to do an oil change! What the?? What did i expect buying the S170? Way more than this.
I would not call it an 'all in one' oil change system when 3/4 rs of the old oil is left behind and unchanged with the quick change system. Convert it to a real oil change if you don't want to buy a new mower must sooner because the old oil is never really changed. Conversion kit costs less than just one of those 'quick change' filters.
I have a 2023 JD S170 and it has 15.7 hrs on it. So far cheap plastic steering wheel cracked and took weeks to get in. Now the belt to the lawn mower deck broke and I have to pay $100 for the service center to pick it up and they seem unsure if it will be covered by warranty! Less than 16 hours of cutting my flat 1/3 acre grass in the suburbs. The hood has no support to stop the wind from catching it and breaking it, just plastic junk. I was going to get a snow blower but found out the impeller is made of plastic! Are you kidding me?! The dealership said this is entry level so they’re plastic. Total junk. My neighbor has a cheap tractor with a snow blower and it has a steel impeller, so does my push snow blower. JD Is greedy and resting on their laurels and ripping us off. I thought JD was top of the line and just bought the best one they had at Lowes. I’m going to sell it this spring and look at the competition.
Lost a whole Hp going from the E to the S also the quick change oil is way over priced a conversion kit with 2qt of JD oil and filter is $10 less and the savings get better with every oil change there after plus the engine will last longer because you get a complete oil change not a third of an oil change
Just my opinion, but don't buy this mower. The air filters don't seal tight a lot of the time and the quick change oil change filter and oil system cost $50 and only replaces less than half the oil in the engine.
I shared your review to my
Neighbor. He is looking for an upgrade 👍
Awesome! Thanks for that. Is this the one he is looking for?
Nice to see the rear axle with grease on it. I just cut a rear rim off my D140. It’s been on it 13 years lol.
Everything runs great and looks pretty Brand new. what me and everyone should be thinking about is, is longevity and repair cost even more so with companies john deere
Yes, anytime you are looking into a purchase like this i would be keeping those things in consideration.
Would be a lot better with the Kawasaki engine. Thank you for mentioning that the Easy Change stuff can be removed.
That would mean a technical decrease in HP and increase in price, there is an option for Kawasaki on the s2 and x3-x5 mowers
This is true, but good thing is you do have that option in just a step above in the S200's.
Good thing for opinions
I wish there was a tractor lug tire option on the 170, I have tractor lugs on my 20 yo L110 and it’s a beast
Great review. Very detailed. My x590 doesn’t have a lumbar seat😢
I think I would still prefer the seat on the X590 over this one, lumbar support or not. Thanks for watching!
What is the difference between the k46 and the k46HD
Two letters “H and D”
@@murd777 haha good one lol
@@wellhmm1193 😉
8:11 could you do a video on using the wash port? I see a lot of riding mower videos with people saying the wash port is worthless, doesn't clean the deck very well. I've even seen small engine mechanics saying don't use the wash port, it'll cause the deck to rust faster, or it's not good for the bearings in the spindles. I think they're probably all full of crap, or they're just not using it right, or they didn't RTFM. Or maybe the instructions in the manual aren't very good, I don't know. What do you think of the wash port?
It works if you do it right.
X534 has wash port, didn't work well at all. I did follow instructions. Clean mine with garden hose, does job just fine.
@@richardb9779 That works too
Stay tuned, one is coming!
When you take the old easy change filter off, isn’t there some old oil still left in the crank case?
@user-gz7kb7yq9p Jesus. This easy change oil system is stupid.
Just convert it back to the old drain pipe and use regular filters again. Easy.
I have a quick question. When are the new 2024 lawn tractors coming out? Especially the S180 54 inch cut? Thanks for the great video on how to operate the lawn tractor. Thanks, John...🙂
What is the part number for taking out the 30 second oil change to normal oil change?
Very well prepared video, and a lot of information was shared by you. I am looking at Craftsman garden tractors.
hello, have a question is there a way to add front weights on this one.
No, not from the factory anyway. There are only wheel weight and rear weight options.
Why does it now have the cool lever to turn on the pto like my s100
Are the headlight bulbs l.e.d. or conventional incandescent?
Conventional
you mention that there are only 3 grease points on the front of the S170. The 2023 S170 I looked at from Lowes also had 1 on each front wheel bearing. Are there difference in the same model???
Yes, one by each wheel and then one in the center pivot point of the front axle. They are the same on every same model.
Sorry, I wasn't very clear in my question. You state/show 3 on the front of your S170. 1 on each side axle spindle hub and 1 on the axle pivot point. My S170 has 5 on the front. The 3 you show and then 1 on each front wheel hub itself. It looked like your S170 was missing the wheel hub zerts. That's what has me confused@@WesternEquipment
Awesome video is there a hard cab enclosure available for this Lawn Tractor?
No there is a soft cab though
No, just a soft cab option from John Deere. There could be a hard cab option out there from an outside source but I do not know of one right off hand.
@@WesternEquipmentOkay Awesome!
@@WesternEquipmentJohn Deere should offer one!
Can you do a video on s240 vs x350?
He has done ones on both
Yes but not the reason to choose one over the other. Side by side comparison
@@kelh9329 I can tell you from experience, the X350 is WAY better in every category, so if I were you I would get the X350, and if that's too much then the S170 or S160 is way more bang for your buck then the S240.
I will see what I can do. Thanks for the idea!
ours is falling apart - first we modded the deck so it doesn't cut the belt - e brake handle came off in my hand - fuel ga. shows I don't what it means - rear mow thing failed too - junk
Is the K 46 serviceable?
No, it is a sealed transaxle.
In Switzerland we Pay m 22:10 ore than the double for a x167 7540 Swiss Francs. WISCH i live in the USA.
I wonder why it costs so much over there?
Random comment but I would be interested in the significance of any of the John Deere labels engine. Does it have an impact on replacement parts? Warranty? Why don’t other mower manufacturers relabel the Kawasaki, Briggs, or Koehler engines? Is this worth a video?
What are pros and cons of the labeling if any?
These are good questions and I think this may be worth a video. I will do some research and see what I can find out. Thanks!
Y would I have to grease sealed bearings??
I'm look at this or the S180. The only real difference I can see is the HP and deck size. Looks as if all the features are the same / similar. Anything I am missing? Thank you.
Wouldn't give up my T240 for any John deere you can keep your John Deere's
Lmao😂 yeah you're welcome to keep your red cub cadet.
@@ciphercode2298it’s “scrub cadet” not cub cadet
@@Sweston24 lol,I watch taryl too!🤣👍
@@ciphercode2298 🤣
Yay! Thank you
Hope you liked it!
Brent, looking at the s240 versus s170. I like the feel and looks of 170 but I know the scuttle talk between Briggs and Kawasaki So, extend life Briggs what does that mean? What did they do to extend its life? If I order a 170 the first option I’m buying is the kit to convert it back to a normal oil change, which I’m sure that change alone will help extend its life 😊. Im not sure how a filled used oil filter can be recycled or can you dump the oil from the filter once removed. Appreciate your advice and you definitely know your product well. Lastly do you have or can you produce a video about the edge and accel decks pros and cons. Thanks.
Prices being almost equal I'd take the s240 with the smaller 42" deck. If you've got another $300 then get the s240 48". The s240 gets better gripping tires,and the accel deep deck leaves a beautiful cut at a higher speed so you can get done faster. You can also buy the mulch control kit that allows you to switch from mulching to side discharge at the flip of a lever. The Kawasaki is a fair bit more reliable than most engines. From what I understand the extended life Briggs engines have better air filtration and better valves and valve seats. I wish briggs and Stratton spent some time deciphering their engine stuff for the public
@@ciphercode2298 I looked at the S240, but seat didn't adjust and oil change is a pain with a panel in the way of the drain system.
@@peyote777 watch a video review/ walkaround of the s240 by western equipment on UA-cam. The seat is adjustable and the panel that's in the way of the oil change simply flips up out if the way to change the oil. Wish youd of talked to a salesman,they're actually pretty good machines
@ Spoke with JD dealership manager! He couldn’t get the seat to move up and back
@@peyote777 idk,theres just a small lever you lift up on under the right side of the seat,then you shift your weight. May just need a shot of wd40
Military/ veterans can get a discount at Lowe's, HD, and on JD directly...
You are correct! John Deere is a supporter of our troops for sure!
I'll stay with my Craftsman Turn tight tractor..
I've broken 5...yes 5 of the orange brake levers so far on my 100 series since I've bought it new in 2021. It's plastic with a little tap attached to metal. It will literally snap and pull right off. I expect better from American made.
Kaleb, that’s a stupid question. I expected it to be a better tractor with better implements than other less expensive brands. I made the mistake of buying it while shopping for other stuff at Lowes and just went with what I thought was the best brand and the top model they had. After the problems, i went and looked at a cub cadet for the same price and it was way nicer. And im not going to spend 5-10k to cut grass on my little lot. No brand especially a Premium brand should ever put a plastic impeller in a snow blower. Ive had 3 no name push blowers that were steel. Jd wants something like $2000 for that pos? Like i said they are resting on their laurels and taking advantage of people’s trust in their name. That’s why I posted this to make people aware. So now if I want a tractor with a decent snowblower i have to sell my JD at a loss and start over. This Premium brand is inferior to other entry level tractors by other brands. Oh not only that, but you have to buy a kit and tear stuff apart in order to do an oil change! What the?? What did i expect buying the S170? Way more than this.
Just bought a 160. So happy with it. Looks like the tires are the only diff.
Yeah the tiers are the only difference
Nice! I am glad you're enjoying it! Where did you buy it?
I would not call it an 'all in one' oil change system when 3/4 rs of the old oil is left behind and unchanged with the quick change system. Convert it to a real oil change if you don't want to buy a new mower must sooner because the old oil is never really changed. Conversion kit costs less than just one of those 'quick change' filters.
If you find a lower hour 300 or 400 series buy it, by lower meaning under 500 hours, it will outlast the junk of the past 20 years
John Deere should be paying you for making these videos.
Say it louder for the people in the back! 😂😂 But in all seriousness, thank you!
16:56 cool, it has a fartpilot!
😂 Don't think I've ever heard this one!
@@WesternEquipment I tried to reply to this twice but your youtube account settings deleted both replies. do you see them?
If it doesn't have a Kohler, it's crap. Mine's been running for 25 years.
I have a 2023 JD S170 and it has 15.7 hrs on it. So far cheap plastic steering wheel cracked and took weeks to get in. Now the belt to the lawn mower deck broke and I have to pay $100 for the service center to pick it up and they seem unsure if it will be covered by warranty! Less than 16 hours of cutting my flat 1/3 acre grass in the suburbs. The hood has no support to stop the wind from catching it and breaking it, just plastic junk. I was going to get a snow blower but found out the impeller is made of plastic! Are you kidding me?! The dealership said this is entry level so they’re plastic. Total junk. My neighbor has a cheap tractor with a snow blower and it has a steel impeller, so does my push snow blower. JD Is greedy and resting on their laurels and ripping us off. I thought JD was top of the line and just bought the best one they had at Lowes. I’m going to sell it this spring and look at the competition.
You bough a 100 series. What did you expect?
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Lost a whole Hp going from the E to the S also the quick change oil is way over priced a conversion kit with 2qt of JD oil and filter is $10 less and the savings get better with every oil change there after plus the engine will last longer because you get a complete oil change not a third of an oil change
Just my opinion, but don't buy this mower. The air filters don't seal tight a lot of the time and the quick change oil change filter and oil system cost $50 and only replaces less than half the oil in the engine.
Yes the oil thing is stupid,
But it can be solved with a $25 part and that way you can get a regular oil filter.
You got the wrong maintenance kit
Machine weighs 500 lbs and towing capacity is 500 lbs, including the mower. . . HUH? Also, Mulch kit?