It depends on how you look at it. If your family is materialistic and worldly then of course a average man can't afford that. That's what wrong with family's now. Materialism!
+vohnholley I was thinking more along the lines of needs. I don't think the women in that type of marriage should work outside the home. But it's not that big of a deal because that doesn't effect me.
I personally believe it should be a choice whether to work or not to work. Unfortunately greed it the way of life here in the states.We need to be reprogrammed. Polygamy isnt for everyone but for many, it would behoove us to keep an open mind.
Well women are also liberated financially, so they can work and contribute to overall economic wealth, especially if they don't have children. Also, as vohnholley mentioned if materialism is an issue, then very few top tier men in *society* can even sustain polygynous relationship. Materialism is bad for everyone in general and contributes to corporate green and destruction of a lot of things anyway.
what are you talking about? There is no way to accept a man sleeping with other women and then coming back to me. I won't accept that and that's because it's disrespectful and it shows a lack of self control. Most of theses men in support of polygamy cant even handle their woman looking at another guy and they can't handle being faithful to one woman but think they can handle multiple ones? I'm not cool with sharing my body with everybody. Just cuz it's happening doesn't make it acceptable. You already see how much dysfunction it causes.
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR DUMBASS SAID. Polgamy is a consensual type of relationship that multiple people agree on and you just compared it to hoe ass niggas who can't keep their dicks out of other women and who hide and lie their deeds. That's how I know yall not going to be responsible enough to engage in polygamy. If any woman has an ounce of sense, she would stay away.
TBH, most women already practice polygamy but are in denial calling their sister wife terms such as side piece, jump off, baby mama, hoe, home wrecker...Everybody move in one house to cut expenses, Raise those kids together and call it a day...since y'all doing it anyway. 🤷🏿♀️
I hate when proponents of polygamy use this argument. There are many of us who are against polygamy who would not accept infidelity from their spouses. Such a weak argument, your guy is gonna cheat anyway so you might as well let him marry a second wife? 🙄 So stupid.
Polygamous marriages are more stable than monogamous marriages. Americans marry 3 or 4 times in their lifetimes but they think it's ok if they do that one at a time, which is much worse. Getting divorced and remarried multiple times is the norm and socially acceptable but it's not good especially for the children nor society in general.
The concept of romance practised by many blacks currently is European...eg..do you know on the weekends African men would spend time with other men i.e their brothers,cousins mostly and women the same but now its a must you be with your girl on the weekend and everyday other day your together .....a man will not be in a place of women if he is married but a place of men...adultery highly reduced....
Polygamy is ok but Polyandry is not ...Polyandry means marital Brothel system. If one woman mates with more than a man then she becomes gents' urinal. Because men ejaculated semen and urine drops. Thats why polygamy is acceptable but polyandry is perceived as dirty thing. Because of difference in working way of sex organs in which one discharges or pours fluid and the other one receives , gathers and ""absorbs"" that fluid , normally female virginity is given importance in real mankind. For "animals" there is no importance of female virginity. If men uses genital in public toilet and accidentally penis touches the pot , it makes very uncomfortable unless shower is taken. But it's surprising how come many men accepts and dips their dick into that vegina which has been earlier urinated by other man.
@@absmith5188 THE MOST STUPID SHIT IVE EVER HEARD! IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY?? "YOULL BE CHEATED ON.." SIMPLE MINDED TO FORCE WOMEN TO SHARE NO GOOD, CANT PROVIDE, SASSY, EGOTISTICAL, LOW VIBRATIONAL, POOKIE MEN!
The tragic part is we don’t realize it and applaud anything that begins show or give inclusion to us, which is even more delusional. For example as a young West Indian descent girl I remember telling my parents here, in America, we have a black ( Vanessa Williams) Miss America. My grandmother said to me what does that “ mean” to you? We,West Indians have always had black women win😏❤️👏🏾 Revelation moment ✅ I understood what she was trying to teach me constantly if I would listen Peace
do people realize that polygamy is not about AFFORDING women and wives? it's about men who have attained or been born in wealth. the practice polygamy as a way of keeping the wealth inside of the family and want their bloodline to grow to a size that will manage all they have. because the amount of wealth that one man has cannot be managed just by one child. this isn't about just having a shit load of wives. it's inheritance, upper class families practice this.
Rain And Petalsss 3 or more incomes should help grow familial wealth. Many people aren’t ready to deal with the social responsibility that comes with that
It not about sharing your man it about loving your sisters and helping each other raise the kid , to help Reduced load and the stress of being a single mother trying to make sure everything straight by yourself
@@aaronjohnson7619 they don't want to accept it, but women already rely on other women to help, they call them babysitters instead of just "women". Men with means attract multiple women who agree that they like the same man. Those situations look identical to polygyny.
I know a black man who had four “wives” within the span of twenty years. They all lived together. He eventually left all of them for a much younger woman- with whom he later had a child. He’s still married to this younger woman and her alone.😑
"Is this what we've come too??? Embracing a community of people who chose to live life in a adulterous type manner. I don't remember my grandparents or their parents, demeaning themselves to this magnitude in order to find a point of resolve. The outcry for what is needed and what is necessary, has already been addressed by Dr. Umar in this very episode. Me-ISM!!! ....individualist ideas individualist behavior.. Individualist thinking and rationalization; are all recipes for barriers that forgo forward progress. Polygamy is an excuse for men to do what we've always done throughout history, "indulge in ourselves" God gives man and woman free will. "What you chose to do with it is ON YOU!!!
Duane Bishop I think the men who agree with Umar, are ones who have no intentions on getting married anytime soon. They either don't value marriage or don't value themselves enough to not expose themselves to stds, out of wedlock children and a lack of self respect. It takes a self respecting, humble and mature man to write the comment that you did. Bravo
There was polygyny in the bible if you're going to take the ignorant religious route. and 85% of societies were polygynous prior to widespread monogamy. It's a more 'natural' and beneficial state for man(singular) and women(plural).
@@rainandpetalsss6244 The bible never stands _against_ it implicitly or explicitly, and you're religion aside, it's biologically the most _natural_ state of man and women. I care not for your religion, this is the real world, not a 'fairytale' book.
Yup, all I get from this is "men already cheat anyway, we might as well accept it and make it okay." "Let the men cheat in peace!" It's all bullshit. Hold these men accountable. Don't reward their behavior because we are DESPERATE!
I agree that with him on the need for more structure. But this can be dangerous if your structure is being designed by an immoral, jealous, selfish, money hungry group of people.
I don't see what the issue is with a man having one wife.. that's extremely selfish to want a woman to share something that's really not meant to share...
Says who? Who says it’s not meant to share? Cuz tbh monogamy fails quite often. Not saying everyone should be polygamous but it ain’t this horrible thing people make it out to be. Hell if I had two girlfriends and babies by both of them no one would say anything at all 😂
So not to be disrespectful. It's a question that makes more sense to me. So, the recommendation is for women to live together, and share in the care of the children, and the upkeep of the home, and we have to "work on our sisterhood." Then why share a man? Why not build a community of women, and from time to time, if the urge hits... engage with men for procreation or pleasure. Why would it make sense for a woman to be monogamous to a man? When men tell the world (quite often) that they clearly are not satisfied with being with one women. I think maybe we should scrap "marriage" all together. Because it's definitely not about holding someone sacred. It's not about pledging your love to one person. I say, let men can come and go, as they always have and we maintain our community and be responsible for ourselves? Personally, whenever I needed help, women have been way more resourceful for me. Not saying a man has never helped but the consistency and delivery is more reliable from women. In my opinion, I would rather roommate with my besties, and share goals, rather than take on cohabitation with a man. If someone can't offer the bare minimum of loyalty, why subject yourself to a lifestyle of being with someone and whatever woman/women he scraps up. Emotional devotion means a lot to me and it doesn't seem like it's a big ask. Especially, when sharing bodily fluids, living spaces, finances and feelings.
Yall need to do deep research about polygamy before jumping the guns. Practically its a disaster and failing in Africa. (I have never heard that economics is the reason for polygamy in Africa, its more about prestige for a man to have more wives and children and gratifying sexual desires. Please don't be decieved. )
Please tell them. In Nigeria it's just to boast that you have 2 or more wives. A display if wealth. And the Gold digger second etc wives. Looking for a male child. Polygammy is BS.
I would assume it’s because he felt as though this interview was beneath him. Back then, Umar was popping; he was doing a lot of seminars and speaking engagements. I’m curious as to where this interview took place and how she was able to interview him.
Amenah King I agree. I’m glad he took the time to share with us as well. Back then I really liked Dr. Umar. A friend (she was a stan) and I drove to Raleigh to go see him not knowing until 3 weeks ago that he had been in my hometown. Well I’m assuming this interview took place in my hometown because I know the interviewer and she now, or at least last I knew, lives in my hometown.
What a shock! A man trying to sell a women on the idea of accepting polygamy. This idea of polygamy is nothing more then a way for men to have a group of sex toys for his pleasure. Miss Natural, your voice and facial expressions, tipped how you feel about polygamy. Any one who watched this interview can tell you are against polygamy and that is a good thing. I always have to laugh when I watch a video where a black man is trying to explain to the black women how she should live her life. The majority of black women are smart enough and strong enough that they don't need to be told how to live their lives. Miss Natural, you spoke of how the difference in income and knowledge between black women, would cause friction in a plural black marriage. I think what you really wanted to say was, the fact is that percentage wise, African American women have a much higher education and income then African American men. Why would 2 or 3 women want to be the bread winner for one man? Let's be real here. There is no way that 3 black women are going to live under the same roof and share a man. Aint happening.
It shouldntbe forced on anyone this not slavery 😂😂💯🤦 its 2018 wake up ppl if u black man want multiple wifes find women that are ok with it problem solved and those woman who dont want to dont have to yall making it more serious than it needs to be honestly 💯
If I was in a polygamist marriage I would let that fool take care of me, pay my car note and while he with the other wife I would be with my man on the side it's no way men today can control a household with multiple wives. Lol I would take full advantage of being taken care of and in my free time I would run wild behind his back.
If you think about it. Yes “polygamy” is not an openly practiced institution (the concept of being with more than one woman). However in practice it is done within the community when you have black men sleeping with various women. Yet unfortunately NO woman is taken care of because there is nothing “binding” him responsibly to these women (and their offspring). At least in the institution of polygamy he would have to make a commitment to these relationships. Btw I’m not for or against it. I just find it interesting the example Dr. Johnson brought up with regards to it.
First of all reading through the comments made me feel sorry for those who don’t understand polygamy! Woman are more than men and a lot of the sisters are left with sons to raise and no security this is a mans job to raise the sons and protect the woman. I believe that polygamy is the answer because as i said it can secure a woman who has been left abonded to raise her children which I think no matter how much mothers think they can raise sons the unfortunate answer is no you can raise daughters but it’s a man job to raise a boy to be a man that’s why theirs lots of gay men because they don’t have a father figure ! So stop thinking about yourself and think about your child’s future in amerikkka.
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So, it's Tooooooo much to require Black Men to get an Education ... Up their standards .. do well in life ... Instead of hustling, robbing, drug dealing, killing, each other and going to Jail??? So, black men are so effed up they can't do right??? Smgdh roflmao
I would not participate in such an arrangement. I don’t see how they are beneficial. What would I gain? I also question the inability to connect with one person and bond as one. However, the important thing is for people to be upfront about what they want and expect out of relationships. If consenting adults feel that they are having their needs met in all regards, then they should act in accordance with what they can live with. Also, I don’t need an elder to protect my interest in a relationship. As a sovereign adult I can act on my behalf and advocate for myself. I would not trust another person to do that for me. In these situations it seems like women are victimized and controlled by others for the sake of community interest over their own.
I know this is an interview and the cameras are placed in front of them but where is the eye contact from Dr.Umar, he looks completely uninterested and disconnected. This actually feels and looks awkward because he isn't engaging her at all.....Am I the only one who feels this way?
No. I was saying the same thing. Its great irony here, because the conversation is about coming together as a ppl but yet visually and energetically you can see the division here!
I am not saying everything has to be sexual, but they are sitting very close to each other. As a man, I know I’d get distracted if I were sitting next to a beautiful woman and looking at her straight in the eyes.
She wanted to do most of the talking and be heard for her views instead of listening. I think Dr. Umar already knew her position on the issues BEFORE the camera was on...so he kept his approach and tone at gently informing her while maintaining his views. Lastly, no disrespect to the sister but she said that she is married which is great but there is a high likelihood that her husband is involved with "supplemental" sex. She probably wants to consider herself as not being part of what Dr. Umar is talking about.
I am not for polygamy if every black man had more than one black woman alot of black men would not have a black woman were only ahead of them by 2 million not 42 million i for one will not be apart of polygamy i would rather stay a virgin and just be alone and keep to myself i don't want to be with a man that has more than one wife or mate but i do love my beautiful sisters though im fine being alone its not as bad as most people think its not going to turn my out gay or give me this i do t need a man mind set i just don't support polygamy
@@tietearoddy exactly, and if any thing it was not called polygyny or polygamy or any of the poly "family words" it's how we as black people lived harmoniously amongst each other. And, if anything it was US, the black women, the queens, the beauty, the Goddess, being supported by multiple men and not in a what they call, "blasphemous" way or any hint of sexual but biologically our black men are MADE to provide, protect, and take care of ALL the BLACK WOMEN in the community because for us it's a matriarch not a patriarch in this wye patriarchal society or I shall say world-view. Silly of us. The opposite of love is hate. They are COMPLETE opposite of us and our communities, our tribes, our world, our EARTH. 🌍🧘🏾♀️👑✊🏾 #composed #Weblackandwegood
Man...she's not listening to him. I don't think she is grasping the idea instead it seems she is focusing on practicality. He's just saying Black people are not foreign to the idea of Polygamy because we basically practice Polygamy with our so called "Side Hoes" and "Side Niggas" So therefor if we would to embrace it, we will all be familiar with it.
I would love to split this mortgage 3 ways, im taking applications!! We have 2020 cadillacs new home, let me know!! Good credit too. Teamwork make the dream work.
You missed my entire point. I just said I don't care what the man does privately.. that's his business. he lost CREDITABILITY not because he spelt with a stripper.. but because he lied about being celibate!! why did he feel the need to lie? that's my problem. He lied about being celibate to make it seem as though he was of "good character" now everything he has worked for must be recovered. too bad.
Every polygamous relationship i know its either the men dont wanna cheat so they suggest this to their wife or gf or they start monogamous amd then all of a sudden expect the woman to be ok with the change he about to suggest in the relationship or marriage like why cant the man be single n prepare himself for this type of relationship. Why waite till u feel like u lacking from your woman to want another wife or gf why cant u be content n still want anothet wife? If men wanna be polygamous they need to be that from the jump dont just change your mind and switch up. Secondly the men and women all sex each other like thats not polygamy. The women dont lick suck and sex each other thats just straight up misguiding people.
Many men don't realize they are polygamous until after marriage because Europeans believe in one man one woman by. We have been condition to think that a man having a concubine which is a wife with lesser status as wrong. So what God made Natural and biblical Europeans said it was wrong in there opinion. It taught women how to be selfish and not work together and raise children together. It made men look like cheaters when they were only operating how God designs us. Think about it 🤔. A man can get multiple women pregnant in one day but a woman can only carry one child for 9 months. It was meant for men to procreate. And if a wife is not acting right best believe a man will look for a concubine.
I have considered this from a traditional standpoint, but I would rather maintain my own household. I would like to be in a relationship with an openly polygamous man, but our arrangement would not include cohabitation or marriage. I have given it a lot of thought, and this is what would be best for me. I would like to continue living alone with my son, and just have my one boyfriend that I only have to entertain twice a week. That would just be my ideal relationship. If the guy was openly polygamous, it wouldn't be any issue with drama n bullshit etc. Bc he's not deceiving anyone. I want to keep my son protected from having a man in his face though. I would like to just have a relationship that fits into my free time only. This man could still be there for me mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, etc. I am just able to entertain him on my own time, and maintain my real life at the same time. I am open to the idea of marriage once my son is older, but not right now.
WOMEN STOP SETTLE FOR WHAT A MAN AKA YOUR SON AND WHAT HE TAUGHT YOU AS THE ANCIENT ANCESTRAL MOTHER, YOU ARE NOT LONELY YOU JUST FORGOT YOUR MATRIARCHY CULTURAL AND SPIRITUAL CONNECTIONS. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR WHAT HE SAYS AND WHAT ABOUT WHAT OUR MOTHERS SAY, MAMA MUST GET OFF HER KNEES AND RULE AGAIN
She stopped me when she said afford smh ... u can’t( afford) motivating and living in happiness(community )to get to a all time high smh and this is speaking from a man who myself bring in 70k after taxes by myself ... u can’t buy love
Dr. Umar is right , before going in to it the women need to Oriented because if successful its in their hand. I know brother who marry two wife in Nigeria but immediately the leaves the house fight brokeup
Those on here need to be careful because this man is very crafty and deceitful was his agendas he knows that from psychological and psycho-social perspective it is detrimental to women and children within a family and the literature reflects that . His true motive is not to be financial provider to women it is more so to have sexual variety in his life . I suggest you guys go and read the literature with the problems with Polygamy and compare to its benefits and see if is a good idea.
Dr. Umar is playing into the stereotype that there is not enough good black men out there. That's totally BS. The 80/20 statistic has shown that black women are disregarding good black men for local thugs. I agree with in regards to putting in place education or a community structure for marriage and relationships. But how are you going to do that when you have black women who inherently don't respect and value black men. How are you going to do this without a patriarchy within the black community. Now he continues to take shots at black men by saying many black men are with different women. NOT TRUE. The baby mama epidemic demonstrates clearly who is sleeping around. I respect the Dr. Umar but he is on some matriarch stuff which is at the heart of destroying our culture. As an African priest I can tell you he is way off in what he is saying!
Qesankh Mae Kheperu, What you are saying is correct (in my estimation). So many black women complain about there being a "shortage of good black men" yet I challenge them..., are they even aware of what constitutes a "good black man". I don't think there is a shortage, it is just that a lot of black women have a skewed or different criteria of what constitutes a good black man. In my experience, a lot of black women don't value the attributes of a good man, they seem to be searching for something else.....
Black women are not looking for good men. They are looking for certain qualities within a man; smooth talk, tall, caters to them, bit of gangster element, spontaneous, irresponsible, and etc. The problem is most of those qualities are not inherit in good men. These qualities turn them on. This could be a result of social engineering to break up the black family unit. But even white women like rebels the difference is they have their fun then settle down with a provider who is steady and reliable. Black woman try to make a thug into a reliable man then complain there are not good men out there when they are the ones actively filtering out or disqualifying good men.
So Polygyny won’t work because the sisterhood is messed up? That doesn’t make sense to me. If black women are in competition for the men, that’s because it’s rare to find a loyal, wise man. So the solution is polygamy or “fixing the sisterhood”? The solution isn’t holding more men accountable??? Of course sisterhood needs work, just like brother hood but I don’t think that’s to mainly to blame.
A huge topic to dive into, discussing the future of the Black family and its family structure and how it impacts the Black nation. Polygamy is something on the table to help single impoverished black mothers to get back on their feet economically but also to a sense of unification and improving the Black family structure in the home for Black me are taking care of the Black Home. Now is this right, no, but the intention of Black progression and unity in our home and community might be the way, and God knows ur heart if you are doing it for the child or the children, because it is about saving and educating the Black children to have the Black Consciousness of Life, Wealth, and Identity.
SHE IS RESPECTFUL AND RESPONSIVE TO HIS POINTS BUT SHE IS STILL GOING WITH HER SELF-TAUGHT CLOSED-MINDED THINKING WHICH SERVES NO PURPOSE TO THE PROGRESS OF THE DISCUSSION. THATS WHY ISSUES LIKE THIS DONT GET ADDRESSED BECAUSE WOMEN BRING THEIR SHALLOW MINDSET BASED ON FEELINGS REALLY INTO A DISCUSSION THAT HAS ALL THE MATERIAL INFORMATION NEEDED WITHOUT HER OR ANY PERSONAL INPUT BUT THEY WOULD STILL FIND A WAY TO BRING THAT CLOSED VIEWPOINT INTO THE CONVO! AND THUS CARRYING THE CONVERSATION BACKWARDS
Polygamy might be problematic when it's not faith based.Most people assume it is the norm in Africa.,that's no longer the case.I think African Americans should embrace the African community more (African immigrants).Now that goes both sides.Africans living in America should do the same.This should help in bridging this gap.
For those if you that don't know, there is a thing called Polygamy and another thing called Polyamory... At best, Umar is a Polyamorist, but he is nothing like a Polygamist.
Life is NOT fair, let's get that out the way. Now here's some rules that will change our community for the better! 1. No kids before age 26 PERIOD. 2. No kids before being married successfully for 3 years, and having BOTH parents sign an understanding that they BOTH want to have a child and have a written up plan of how they plan to provide and care for said child. 3. Hold children to an academic standard of A-B honor roll! Blacks do not put the proper value on education which is the key to success. 4. Live well BELOW your means! No designer foolishness and fake hair and nonsense. 5. No killing black people. 6. Actually be a parent when you have children and protect their innocence and keep them from growing up so fast 7. Vote FOR black issues and support BLACK interests 8. Support Black owned businesses Follow these rules and see if their isn't a change for the BETTER
@@BittyCryp It has to be, otherwise you won't get any progress, and a lot of what he said is backed by data and sound logic. Fact of the matter is, you cant just allow anyone to do whatever they want to do and expect a certain result.
Miss Piggy no that's not even close to the same thing lol. Baby daddy is a title that isn't respectable at all and you don't get wife benefits being just a baby mama
@@sparkman1314able there are actually no similarities at all. "Baby mama" is a title that comes along with no privileges and very little respect. A baby mama in no way can be compared to a wife. I say this having a child by a man that I am no longer with so I am technically a baby mama. I don't, haven't and wouldn't sleep my my baby daddy ever again. He's with another woman but the two of us aren't "sharing" a man. He is alllllll hers lol. I'm also in a relationship and those men aren't sharing me because I know which one I belong to. He also has a baby mama that he has had no relationship ties to in years so again there is no sharing. So unless the man is still in relationships with both baby mamas and they are both aware and accepting of it and both reap benefits from him then there is no comparison at all.
That's in the old testament. Polygamy was allowed actually. But God forbiddened it because of the abuse of power males had. The focus wasn't on building a family and respecting women anymore it shifted to extreme lust and extreme want for pleasure. In the new testament it's forbidden.
@Daddy P i see you know the diff, between polygyny and polygamy, christianity cannot define nor explain true hebraic culture, which polygyny is found in and btw nowhere in the whole bible does the tmh forbid it as well , kudos to your deeper learning sir. most dont know the true meaning behind polygyny and polygamy they are not the same.
Im a straight black man who does not promote polygamy. I dont see many black men supporting and raising one family faithfully, so bringing another woman in doesn't seem right.
Thank you, I watched a docu of a family that practices it, and the first wife said that once men who are considering it realize the RESPONSIBILITY that comes with it, the decide against it. I was with somebody that tried to force that on me & ultimately decided to kick me AND his 2 children out & said he’ll just make some more babies 🤦🏾♀️ lol.... exactly why this won’t ever work
@@justxkendra OMG THE SAME EXACT THING JUST HAPPENED TO ME!!!! It happens ALOT in the Hebrew Israelite Community!! I was with my twins father for a year put through SO MUCH hell!!! He put us out to be with another woman who supports polygyny & him financially!!! I am BEYOND piss because he told me (Go ahead put me on child support I can just make more babies)
@@justxkendra that's the thing I'm all for my people, I'm all for Israel but will that make against TMH if I were to follow through? Because I need help I didn't make these boys by myself & their father who I considered my husband is forcing me to make decisions I don't want to make.... I need help $15 here & there will not help me & these camps have a way of making you feel guilty for doing what needs to be done & standing up for your self not all camps but aloot of them do especially when it comes to the woman they treat them like trash!! & It's not right, I see alot of men go into polygyny not to build a nation in the correct order as it should be, but for their own selfish reasons!! For their benefit alot these camps use these women not for the will of TMH but for their own selfish purpose....
It is very fine for a woman to seek to be financially independent. What is a great blessing for a woman too have a dependency upon her head, her leader, her husband as well.
It’s perfectly fine to create the life that you want for yourself and not the one society wishes for you. If you want a monogamous relationship or marriage, cultivate that. If you want to have a relationship with a desirable man, go for that and continue to be a desirable woman during that process. I think the real shocker that people will see over the years is more Black women entering into monogamous marriages with desirable non-Black men if the dating pool of Black men becomes too small.
Which is why polygamy would work. The men that CAN'T support themselves are put to the side, and the men that can support more than one woman will have no issue doing so. Woman aren't obligated to get into a relationship with men that can't support themselves.
I do not believe in polygamy relationships at all because my faith says it’s not right, but from a realistic stand point for the men that believe in polygamy, most of your actions don’t even equal up to you attaining the responsibility of having a polygamist relationship. You’re not faithful to a simple phone plan, how can you be faithful to two women... some of you men aren’t in your children lives and neglect the very one woman that loves you for you, but you want to add on one more woman to the equation... I call bull crap. Men, let’s be faithful to one woman and one woman only, we can not build up our community if our homes are broken, have a relationship with whatever religion god or belief higher than yourself and nature, have moral about yourself AS A MAN, stay home with your woman and treat her right love your kids and work hard to provide knowledge, wisdom, and assets for your next generation. Once we tackle our home problems, then and only then will we build up our communities. Kick this polygamy bs to the curb
It all sounds like a good idea until you bring in that 3rd or 4th person and get completely left behind. LOL Happened to me and I laugh at it now but boy ol boy the hurt. Anyone constantly looking outside of self for love is lacking something deeply within & I don't wish to be involved. Also, not looking to play a nanny to anyone's children or share my resources. If you need to pool resources you should rethink creating a family. Different stroke for different folks but never again. It all boils down to someone's selfish reasons of needing some type of help.
Polygamy - I was once against it. It’s not for me - but I understand it’s just like any relationship - there’s still the partnership, trust, honesty and respect involved, resulting in happiness and love for the entire family. It all falls apart when theirs secrecies and lies resulting in betrayal
A man in a polygamous relationship doesn't need to be able to provide for all the wives. The wives can work too. All of them can work as a team to provide for the whole family.
1400 years ago God gave you all the solutions to all of your social and individual problems but unfortunately, people choose to reject it people they say " i cannot sustain multiple wives but they are okay with sleeping with multiple women and get them pregnant and leave them not knowing who the father of that child Ask yourself this question How does a Muslim man in Afria in the desert is able to take care of 4 wives and have more than 20 kids and all of them grow to be engineers and doctors? With zero divorce My grandparent has 2 and one of them is my dad who is a teacher today and he lived in a village The one who said " get marry to 4" is the one who say " I will provide for you like i provide for the birds" Allah said " I will provide for you" and that's why people forgot about him and his guidance and today we are in this mess Look at prostitution statistics in America and Europe Look at pornography statistics Look at drugs abuse look at the divorce rate in America look at sexually transmitted diseases Look at debt( today the majority of American citizens are swimming in debt whether its a credit cards, student loans or mortgages) Look at alchool abuse!, 2-3 million die each year from alchool Look at gambling ( people are homeless today because of gambling) and people are in prison because of it should I continue Today people forgot about Allah's guidance Allah left them in this chaos but he also said " Follow my guidance and you will return back to your normal life" But people continue to refuse that message
RedIgauna Unfortunately after all was set and done those women did no good for the men and the men ended up regretting marrying so many women. Especially Solomon. He found out that the women were leading him astray from worshiping God.
@@God.sDaughter false David had no regret, and nor did Solomon. The God of the bible was angry with Solomon because he partook in the rituals and ceremonies forv the gods of his foreign wives. Solomon was the most wise BECAUSE of the knowledge attained from exposure to so many women and cultures. But the God of the Bible is a jealous God
In zimbabwe when a man is marrying a woman and goes to the court to sign the marriage certificate, he is given a choice between two types of marriages. They ask if he would want to marry more women later or is going to only marry one wife for life. If he opts for polygamy he gets a certificate which allows him to come back and add more wives therefore allowing his wives to all be legally married to him and in the event of the husbands death they are all entitled to an equal share of the inheritance
The reality is once a woman has a child, which is nearly inevitable considering biology, she is IMMEDIATELY OUT of the labor force. (Unless you want your child being raised by some outside source after the 6 weeks passes in which she has maternity leave.) So anyway, she leaves the labor force because she has to take care of her offspring. This alone shows that a man who wants multiple wives needs to be able to care for his multiple lives. And not in the projects. Why is it so hard for people to believe? I, like many black women, have a master's degree and plenty of skill sets, but if I reproduce then my first and most important skill will be daily rearing of the next generation along with my husband. I won't be going out to work for some white man. And if I do entrepreneurship, it will come secondary to raising our children and taking care of our home. So for those who think they're going to have a harem in which a whole bunch of women work and bring in the majority of income while the man sits around and keeps on having sex? Doesn't make any sense. And women who fall for that are simply thirsty and need to get their hormones in check. Men would never tolerate that from women if the tables were turned, so women should not tolerate that from men.
Sis in Transition I wholeheartedly agree with everything you stated. The man is made to provide and protect his family and his home REGARDLESS, so in polygyny, that role would certainly not change. If anything, it would increase his responsibility.
I don't believe in signing contracts for love that's clearly the economical aspect and much less be polygamous, it's seems totally non spiritual with a more carnal lower self focus, I would then prefer to just have an intellectual exchange with a man and be celibate then due to having to deal with the subtle bodies of more than one person which could be psychologically overwhelming. It's not for me.
This was very interesting. I agree black women do need to love each other and show more respect for each but I'm selfish, and no way would I share my husband with another woman. I don't think polygamy is the answer to it not being enough black men for women. The answer, I believe, lies in the fact that we as a community need more unity, better role models and a better educational system.
--- because that somehow creates more men??? There's a shortage period. So unless you want the women left out to become lesbian or nuns, good luck. P.S. You're the ones with the problem. Selfish! Destroy the whole for preservation of self!
+Gr8nessnMe070 If we had more leaders, better education, better opportunities and less people out for themselves maybe these young men would learn how to be men. Maybe alot of them wouldn't spend the majority of their youth and adult life in jail. There isn't a shortage at all, they aren't available. I don't have a problem at all, I'm not losing any sleep worrying about a women turning to women because they cant share my husband with me.
Polygamy is the definition of unity and a better education system. And better role models is a given when dealing with the maturity that it truly requires to be polygamous.
I’m just glad a few people in the comment section have mentioned that polygamy is NOT for everyone. As an individual, I personally do not agree with it and I’m not sure if on a global scale that it has had a major impact on African-Americans as a collective. In the words of lauryn hill “it could all be so simple...but you’d rather make it hard”.
Talk about sister hood and black men need to make some changes. Well what about brotherhood black men kill each other in this country so now we got sister widows just stick to one. One man and one woman. 2 flesh become 1 flesh. Can’t become 1 with 3, 4,5 and so fourth.
Brother Umar too smart his reply on polygamy shut her down but in a good way. Great dialogue with tremendous respect for one another. She had great points as well. When you take on multiple wives it means that you accept responsibility. Family continuity is the only thing that matters. Polygamy has been practiced by black people since the beginning of time.
Umar is a clown he's not a therapist first off !!! All he's doing is massaging a sort of grooming of his goals his real agenda into the Mass 's ....he's a loser just ask his abandoned daughters
Speak for you. There is no man as wonderful as the black man. Strength, loving, passion, logic. I have a helluva black husband. Strong but gentle. A leader with patience. And I know that the black man I have is so rare. And if there is a black woman that could benefit in our relationship, I am open.
Definitely SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. That's EXACTLY! What they wanted you to do hints why black men are even put in such a set up for failure system to begin with anyway. But, in the end the wypipo time is over... it is TOO LATE. 🌍🧘🏾♀️👑✊🏾
This conversation between these two went very well. The woman was not only listening and responding, but she took the time to think and retort without using emotion and they both were able to have an intellectual and thought provoking dialogue. Much respect to Dr. Johnson, and the sister.
The way y’all expect literal human beings to never use emotion is wild to me. We are not robots. Men like you are so weird. The way y’all talk about women shows how dick obsessed you are. You didn’t even use her name and you only talked about the way she responded. I’d expect someone with a pfp and name like yours to act like this tho. This is what no hugs do to a man.
@@corimoon3360 exactly! tired of these males thinking men don't use emotion. He thought he was saying something and giving a compliment. Very backhanded compliment.
Polygamy is just a way of excusing a man’s inability to have one woman the way it should be. As far as sister wives go, get some damn friends for God’s sake.
In America most black men can't financially sustain multiple wives.
It depends on how you look at it. If your family is materialistic and worldly then of course a average man can't afford that. That's what wrong with family's now. Materialism!
+vohnholley
I was thinking more along the lines of needs. I don't think the women in that type of marriage should work outside the home. But it's not that big of a deal because that doesn't effect me.
I personally believe it should be a choice whether to work or not to work. Unfortunately greed it the way of life here in the states.We need to be reprogrammed. Polygamy isnt for everyone but for many, it would behoove us to keep an open mind.
Well women are also liberated financially, so they can work and contribute to overall economic wealth, especially if they don't have children. Also, as vohnholley mentioned if materialism is an issue, then very few top tier men in *society* can even sustain polygynous relationship.
Materialism is bad for everyone in general and contributes to corporate green and destruction of a lot of things anyway.
And for those who can?
I've been saying this for a long time now. Most people are living plural relationships and don't even realize it!
and so that makes it ok?
Yeah living it and not accepting it because of how our minds are set up
what are you talking about? There is no way to accept a man sleeping with other women and then coming back to me. I won't accept that and that's because it's disrespectful and it shows a lack of self control. Most of theses men in support of polygamy cant even handle their woman looking at another guy and they can't handle being faithful to one woman but think they can handle multiple ones? I'm not cool with sharing my body with everybody. Just cuz it's happening doesn't make it acceptable. You already see how much dysfunction it causes.
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR DUMBASS SAID. Polgamy is a consensual type of relationship that multiple people agree on and you just compared it to hoe ass niggas who can't keep their dicks out of other women and who hide and lie their deeds. That's how I know yall not going to be responsible enough to engage in polygamy. If any woman has an ounce of sense, she would stay away.
There's a difference between plural relationships and being a fucking cheater and you know that
TBH, most women already practice polygamy but are in denial calling their sister wife terms such as side piece, jump off, baby mama, hoe, home wrecker...Everybody move in one house to cut expenses, Raise those kids together and call it a day...since y'all doing it anyway. 🤷🏿♀️
💯 facts...
Exactly
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@@nachemiagape9564 you laughing but many of african women. Are crazy as hell for real.
I hate when proponents of polygamy use this argument. There are many of us who are against polygamy who would not accept infidelity from their spouses. Such a weak argument, your guy is gonna cheat anyway so you might as well let him marry a second wife? 🙄 So stupid.
Polygamous marriages are more stable than monogamous marriages. Americans marry 3 or 4 times in their lifetimes but they think it's ok if they do that one at a time, which is much worse. Getting divorced and remarried multiple times is the norm and socially acceptable but it's not good especially for the children nor society in general.
I ain’t sharing!!!! No way!!! My thing is; there will be jealousy between the women. The man will definitely love and vibe with some more than others.
The concept of romance practised by many blacks currently is European...eg..do you know on the weekends African men would spend time with other men i.e their brothers,cousins mostly and women the same but now its a must you be with your girl on the weekend and everyday other day your together .....a man will not be in a place of women if he is married but a place of men...adultery highly reduced....
Love and vibe equally through Islamic balance.
Say no to polygamy
Polygamy is ok but Polyandry is not ...Polyandry means marital Brothel system.
If one woman mates with more than a man then she becomes gents' urinal. Because men ejaculated semen and urine drops. Thats why polygamy is acceptable but polyandry is perceived as dirty thing. Because of difference in working way of sex organs in which one discharges or pours fluid and the other one receives , gathers and ""absorbs"" that fluid , normally female virginity is given importance in real mankind. For "animals" there is no importance of female virginity.
If men uses genital in public toilet and accidentally penis touches the pot , it makes very uncomfortable unless shower is taken. But it's surprising how come many men accepts and dips their dick into that vegina which has been earlier urinated by other man.
Belief programs is real
Polygamy is a total no for me. Never ever in life.
You will be cheated on
@@absmith5188 THE MOST STUPID SHIT IVE EVER HEARD! IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY?? "YOULL BE CHEATED ON.." SIMPLE MINDED TO FORCE WOMEN TO SHARE NO GOOD, CANT PROVIDE, SASSY, EGOTISTICAL, LOW VIBRATIONAL, POOKIE MEN!
ON GOD!
Thank you Dr Umar, we are FULLY socialized by what we see on television and see in movies
The tragic part is we don’t realize it and applaud anything that begins show or give inclusion to us, which is even more delusional.
For example as a young West Indian descent girl I remember telling my parents here, in America, we have a black ( Vanessa Williams) Miss America. My grandmother said to me what does that “ mean” to you? We,West Indians have always had black women win😏❤️👏🏾
Revelation moment ✅
I understood what she was trying to teach me constantly if I would listen
Peace
do people realize that polygamy is not about AFFORDING women and wives? it's about men who have attained or been born in wealth. the practice polygamy as a way of keeping the wealth inside of the family and want their bloodline to grow to a size that will manage all they have. because the amount of wealth that one man has cannot be managed just by one child. this isn't about just having a shit load of wives. it's inheritance, upper class families practice this.
Nice try but you don't need multiple wives to do this smh
So black American males should not be doing it according to your comment. Thank you because these niggas aren't financially stable to do that.
Rain And Petalsss 💯💯💯💯
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Rain And Petalsss 3 or more incomes should help grow familial wealth. Many people aren’t ready to deal with the social responsibility that comes with that
Polygamy..no. Polyamory..absolutely! It's never gonna be ok with women unless we have the same freedoms in love and relationships.
Not sharing my man , perioddddd!
Me either!
It not about sharing your man it about loving your sisters and helping each other raise the kid , to help Reduced load and the stress of being a single mother trying to make sure everything straight by yourself
You going to share your man even if you like it or Not 🤷🏿
@@aaronjohnson7619 they don't want to accept it, but women already rely on other women to help, they call them babysitters instead of just "women". Men with means attract multiple women who agree that they like the same man. Those situations look identical to polygyny.
@G. C. Yes she does. We are women not rugs.
I would rather be single...than to engage in polygamy. I always say....know thyself.
I went to africa and study my history there is nothing dont is not wrong with it
Know thyself and be bitter is what you say now?
I know a black man who had four “wives” within the span of twenty years. They all lived together. He eventually left all of them for a much younger woman- with whom he later had a child. He’s still married to this younger woman and her alone.😑
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Anddddd u just made that up
@@laurenlocd3180 she's a great story teller 🤓
@@laurenlocd3180 definitely
@@laurenlocd3180 you’re naive if you think that isn’t possible
"Is this what we've come too??? Embracing a community of people who chose to live life in a adulterous type manner. I don't remember my grandparents or their parents, demeaning themselves to this magnitude in order to find a point of resolve. The outcry for what is needed and what is necessary, has already been addressed by Dr. Umar in this very episode. Me-ISM!!! ....individualist ideas individualist behavior.. Individualist thinking and rationalization; are all recipes for barriers that forgo forward progress. Polygamy is an excuse for men to do what we've always done throughout history, "indulge in ourselves" God gives man and woman free will. "What you chose to do with it is ON YOU!!!
Duane Bishop I think the men who agree with Umar, are ones who have no intentions on getting married anytime soon. They either don't value marriage or don't value themselves enough to not expose themselves to stds, out of wedlock children and a lack of self respect. It takes a self respecting, humble and mature man to write the comment that you did. Bravo
There was polygyny in the bible if you're going to take the ignorant religious route. and 85% of societies were polygynous prior to widespread monogamy. It's a more 'natural' and beneficial state for man(singular) and women(plural).
@@rainandpetalsss6244 The bible never stands _against_ it implicitly or explicitly, and you're religion aside, it's biologically the most _natural_ state of man and women. I care not for your religion, this is the real world, not a 'fairytale' book.
Mo Bishop FACTSSSSS
Yup, all I get from this is "men already cheat anyway, we might as well accept it and make it okay." "Let the men cheat in peace!" It's all bullshit. Hold these men accountable. Don't reward their behavior because we are DESPERATE!
I agree that with him on the need for more structure. But this can be dangerous if your structure is being designed by an immoral, jealous, selfish, money hungry group of people.
I don't see what the issue is with a man having one wife.. that's extremely selfish to want a woman to share something that's really not meant to share...
Las rising factssss
right
There isn't an issue however dont make polygany an issue.
Says who? Who says it’s not meant to share? Cuz tbh monogamy fails quite often. Not saying everyone should be polygamous but it ain’t this horrible thing people make it out to be. Hell if I had two girlfriends and babies by both of them no one would say anything at all 😂
So not to be disrespectful. It's a question that makes more sense to me. So, the recommendation is for women to live together, and share in the care of the children, and the upkeep of the home, and we have to "work on our sisterhood." Then why share a man? Why not build a community of women, and from time to time, if the urge hits... engage with men for procreation or pleasure. Why would it make sense for a woman to be monogamous to a man? When men tell the world (quite often) that they clearly are not satisfied with being with one women. I think maybe we should scrap "marriage" all together. Because it's definitely not about holding someone sacred. It's not about pledging your love to one person. I say, let men can come and go, as they always have and we maintain our community and be responsible for ourselves? Personally, whenever I needed help, women have been way more resourceful for me. Not saying a man has never helped but the consistency and delivery is more reliable from women. In my opinion, I would rather roommate with my besties, and share goals, rather than take on cohabitation with a man. If someone can't offer the bare minimum of loyalty, why subject yourself to a lifestyle of being with someone and whatever woman/women he scraps up. Emotional devotion means a lot to me and it doesn't seem like it's a big ask. Especially, when sharing bodily fluids, living spaces, finances and feelings.
This!!! All of this!
Yall need to do deep research about polygamy before jumping the guns. Practically its a disaster and failing in Africa. (I have never heard that economics is the reason for polygamy in Africa, its more about prestige for a man to have more wives and children and gratifying sexual desires. Please don't be decieved. )
@OriginalMan 9999 racists bitch every one does this...
Please tell them.
In Nigeria it's just to boast that you have 2 or more wives.
A display if wealth.
And the Gold digger second etc wives.
Looking for a male child.
Polygammy is BS.
seed polygamy is ok
That's all it is about it doesn't have anything to do with wealth.
@Afrikan Tresses it still doesn't take away from the truth. Culture don't save or help anybody.
Dr Umar u look so sad in this interview....however u stil managed to chat a whole lot of sense
That's Cuz the woman voice is hello anoying he's faded
I would assume it’s because he felt as though this interview was beneath him. Back then, Umar was popping; he was doing a lot of seminars and speaking engagements. I’m curious as to where this interview took place and how she was able to interview him.
@@mlbradle That's good insight. Whether I agree with him or not on this, I'm glad that he took time to share with us.
Amenah King I agree. I’m glad he took the time to share with us as well. Back then I really liked Dr. Umar. A friend (she was a stan) and I drove to Raleigh to go see him not knowing until 3 weeks ago that he had been in my hometown. Well I’m assuming this interview took place in my hometown because I know the interviewer and she now, or at least last I knew, lives in my hometown.
Tired not Sad
Umar Johnson spends the entire interview not making eye contact with the interviewer. I think he's scared of real women
I’m glad someone said something! I was thinking the same thing!
What a shock! A man trying to sell a women on the idea of accepting polygamy. This idea of polygamy is nothing more then a way for men to have a group of sex toys for his pleasure. Miss Natural, your voice and facial expressions, tipped how you feel about polygamy. Any one who watched this interview can tell you are against polygamy and that is a good thing. I always have to laugh when I watch a video where a black man is trying to explain to the black women how she should live her life. The majority of black women are smart enough and strong enough that they don't need to be told how to live their lives. Miss Natural, you spoke of how the difference in income and knowledge between black women, would cause friction in a plural black marriage. I think what you really wanted to say was, the fact is that percentage wise, African American women have a much higher education and income then African American men. Why would 2 or 3 women want to be the bread winner for one man? Let's be real here. There is no way that 3 black women are going to live under the same roof and share a man. Aint happening.
your right larry
Larry jones look at his face. He ain’t even wanna say that shit kuz he knew a nigga like you would have something to say lol
Being a polygamous male means making sure NONE of your wives have anything to worry about. So they can focus on themselves and the household pham lol
Do your research Larry because you don't no shit about it
My bad, that last comment was for Larry, not you.
It shouldntbe forced on anyone this not slavery 😂😂💯🤦 its 2018 wake up ppl if u black man want multiple wifes find women that are ok with it problem solved and those woman who dont want to dont have to yall making it more serious than it needs to be honestly 💯
Well many black men not pookie and ray ray. Actually take polygamy very serious and to heart.
If I was in a polygamist marriage I would let that fool take care of me, pay my car note and while he with the other wife I would be with my man on the side it's no way men today can control a household with multiple wives. Lol I would take full advantage of being taken care of and in my free time I would run wild behind his back.
bella657 lol 😂 u wild.
I would do the same thing just because men are that stupid
If you think about it. Yes “polygamy” is not an openly practiced institution (the concept of being with more than one woman). However in practice it is done within the community when you have black men sleeping with various women. Yet unfortunately NO woman is taken care of because there is nothing “binding” him responsibly to these women (and their offspring). At least in the institution of polygamy he would have to make a commitment to these relationships. Btw I’m not for or against it. I just find it interesting the example Dr. Johnson brought up with regards to it.
First of all reading through the comments made me feel sorry for those who don’t understand polygamy! Woman are more than men and a lot of the sisters are left with sons to raise and no security this is a mans job to raise the sons and protect the woman. I believe that polygamy is the answer because as i said it can secure a woman who has been left abonded to raise her children which I think no matter how much mothers think they can raise sons the unfortunate answer is no you can raise daughters but it’s a man job to raise a boy to be a man that’s why theirs lots of gay men because they don’t have a father figure ! So stop thinking about yourself and think about your child’s future in amerikkka.
So, it's Tooooooo much to require Black Men to get an Education ... Up their standards .. do well in life ... Instead of hustling, robbing, drug dealing, killing, each other and going to Jail??? So, black men are so effed up they can't do right??? Smgdh roflmao
I would not participate in such an arrangement. I don’t see how they are beneficial. What would I gain? I also question the inability to connect with one person and bond as one. However, the important thing is for people to be upfront about what they want and expect out of relationships. If consenting adults feel that they are having their needs met in all regards, then they should act in accordance with what they can live with. Also, I don’t need an elder to protect my interest in a relationship. As a sovereign adult I can act on my behalf and advocate for myself. I would not trust another person to do that for me. In these situations it seems like women are victimized and controlled by others for the sake of community interest over their own.
I like this comment
I know this is an interview and the cameras are placed in front of them but where is the eye contact from Dr.Umar, he looks completely uninterested and disconnected. This actually feels and looks awkward because he isn't engaging her at all.....Am I the only one who feels this way?
It seems as if he believes she isn't on the same level as he is intellectually, and he's trying his best to converse with her.
No. I was saying the same thing. Its great irony here, because the conversation is about coming together as a ppl but yet visually and energetically you can see the division here!
I am not saying everything has to be sexual, but they are sitting very close to each other. As a man, I know I’d get distracted if I were sitting next to a beautiful woman and looking at her straight in the eyes.
She wanted to do most of the talking and be heard for her views instead of listening.
I think Dr. Umar already knew her position on the issues BEFORE the camera was on...so he kept his approach and tone at gently informing her while maintaining his views.
Lastly, no disrespect to the sister but she said that she is married which is great but there is a high likelihood that her husband is involved with "supplemental" sex. She probably wants to consider herself as not being part of what Dr. Umar is talking about.
I am not for polygamy if every black man had more than one black woman alot of black men would not have a black woman were only ahead of them by 2 million not 42 million i for one will not be apart of polygamy i would rather stay a virgin and just be alone and keep to myself i don't want to be with a man that has more than one wife or mate but i do love my beautiful sisters though im fine being alone its not as bad as most people think its not going to turn my out gay or give me this i do t need a man mind set i just don't support polygamy
Those are lies there are more men than women anyway. That's a lie tactic.
@@tietearoddy exactly, and if any thing it was not called polygyny or polygamy or any of the poly "family words" it's how we as black people lived harmoniously amongst each other. And, if anything it was US, the black women, the queens, the beauty, the Goddess, being supported by multiple men and not in a what they call, "blasphemous" way or any hint of sexual but biologically our black men are MADE to provide, protect, and take care of ALL the BLACK WOMEN in the community because for us it's a matriarch not a patriarch in this wye patriarchal society or I shall say world-view. Silly of us. The opposite of love is hate. They are COMPLETE opposite of us and our communities, our tribes, our world, our EARTH. 🌍🧘🏾♀️👑✊🏾 #composed #Weblackandwegood
@@SpecialKRNB having a matriarchal society is just as bad as living in a patriarchal society hell probably worse
Dr.Umar looks like he checked out of the conversation years ago...........
Man...she's not listening to him.
I don't think she is grasping the idea instead it seems she is focusing on practicality.
He's just saying Black people are not foreign to the idea of Polygamy because we basically practice Polygamy with our so called "Side Hoes" and "Side Niggas" So therefor if we would to embrace it, we will all be familiar with it.
@@dialogical513
Explain.
Muslims are still selling Muslims in Africa in Mauritania and Mali
There is plenty of blk men to go around you can go to ethiopia and get a man
Love each other more than they love that Man?
How about unconditional love as A family unit...
Loving the Man less sounds off to me...
Riiight
LEACHISRICH I understand what you mean, but I get what he’s saying.
I would love to split this mortgage 3 ways, im taking applications!! We have 2020 cadillacs new home, let me know!! Good credit too. Teamwork make the dream work.
This man has changed in a bad way... every since he lied about the stripper and being celibate he lost my respect as a leader.
The fact that he did it wasn't an issue.. I don't care about what another man does in his private life. . but he creditability is gone.
You missed my entire point. I just said I don't care what the man does privately.. that's his business. he lost CREDITABILITY not because he spelt with a stripper.. but because he lied about being celibate!! why did he feel the need to lie? that's my problem. He lied about being celibate to make it seem as though he was of "good character" now everything he has worked for must be recovered. too bad.
Now he wants to come at the community with some relationship talk or advice?. and polygamy? stop lol. I've moved on from this man. no support from me.
Do you think most black people would be opposed to a female leader?
A9 Atleast
omg u are so on point
Im glad Umar acknowledged the lack of quality black men...young black men are dying or going to prison.
Every polygamous relationship i know its either the men dont wanna cheat so they suggest this to their wife or gf or they start monogamous amd then all of a sudden expect the woman to be ok with the change he about to suggest in the relationship or marriage like why cant the man be single n prepare himself for this type of relationship. Why waite till u feel like u lacking from your woman to want another wife or gf why cant u be content n still want anothet wife? If men wanna be polygamous they need to be that from the jump dont just change your mind and switch up. Secondly the men and women all sex each other like thats not polygamy. The women dont lick suck and sex each other thats just straight up misguiding people.
Many men don't realize they are polygamous until after marriage because Europeans believe in one man one woman by. We have been condition to think that a man having a concubine which is a wife with lesser status as wrong. So what God made Natural and biblical Europeans said it was wrong in there opinion. It taught women how to be selfish and not work together and raise children together. It made men look like cheaters when they were only operating how God designs us. Think about it 🤔. A man can get multiple women pregnant in one day but a woman can only carry one child for 9 months. It was meant for men to procreate. And if a wife is not acting right best believe a man will look for a concubine.
I have considered this from a traditional standpoint, but I would rather maintain my own household. I would like to be in a relationship with an openly polygamous man, but our arrangement would not include cohabitation or marriage. I have given it a lot of thought, and this is what would be best for me. I would like to continue living alone with my son, and just have my one boyfriend that I only have to entertain twice a week. That would just be my ideal relationship. If the guy was openly polygamous, it wouldn't be any issue with drama n bullshit etc. Bc he's not deceiving anyone. I want to keep my son protected from having a man in his face though. I would like to just have a relationship that fits into my free time only. This man could still be there for me mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, etc. I am just able to entertain him on my own time, and maintain my real life at the same time. I am open to the idea of marriage once my son is older, but not right now.
Wouldn’t it be even more financial beneficial here where the cost of living and the availability so slim?
He just used plural in place of polygamt at the end and she let it slide because it was her word. Psychology in practice is subtle
Any man that has 3 or more baby mama's is already in a polygamist relationship 😂
Imagine being faithful in a polygamist relationship and still being cheated on.
I’ve been saying this for ten years
um ...nott
I don't think he was feeling her energy. He barely even looked at her.
I believe it was out of respect. In attempt to no last after a married woman
Where is the school ⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
I would never be in a Polygamous relationship.🤮
Umar Johnson has that In the Closet Gay Reverend Vibe who you would really balk at leaving your wallet or children around unattended.
WOMEN STOP SETTLE FOR WHAT A MAN AKA YOUR SON AND WHAT HE TAUGHT YOU AS THE ANCIENT ANCESTRAL MOTHER, YOU ARE NOT LONELY YOU JUST FORGOT YOUR MATRIARCHY CULTURAL AND SPIRITUAL CONNECTIONS. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR WHAT HE SAYS AND WHAT ABOUT WHAT OUR MOTHERS SAY, MAMA MUST GET OFF HER KNEES AND RULE AGAIN
sister wives=sisterhood(balance to the dynamic)brotherhood=brothers in arms; the relativistic equanimity of vibration
a solution
I am up for this!
This is non sense pure non sense bruh
INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL NOT PAY FOR MULTIPLE PARTNERS CONTRACTS OR LEGALIZATION THEY WILL ONLY PAY FOR ONE SPOUSE!!!
She stopped me when she said afford smh ... u can’t( afford) motivating and living in happiness(community )to get to a all time high smh and this is speaking from a man who myself bring in 70k after taxes by myself ... u can’t buy love
Dr. Umar is right , before going in to it the women need to Oriented because if successful its in their hand. I know brother who marry two wife in Nigeria but immediately the leaves the house fight brokeup
Those on here need to be careful because this man is very crafty and deceitful was his agendas he knows that from psychological and psycho-social perspective it is detrimental to women and children within a family and the literature reflects that . His true motive is not to be financial provider to women it is more so to have sexual variety in his life . I suggest you guys go and read the literature with the problems with Polygamy and compare to its benefits and see if is a good idea.
Dr. Umar is playing into the stereotype that there is not enough good black men out there. That's totally BS. The 80/20 statistic has shown that black women are disregarding good black men for local thugs. I agree with in regards to putting in place education or a community structure for marriage and relationships. But how are you going to do that when you have black women who inherently don't respect and value black men. How are you going to do this without a patriarchy within the black community. Now he continues to take shots at black men by saying many black men are with different women. NOT TRUE. The baby mama epidemic demonstrates clearly who is sleeping around. I respect the Dr. Umar but he is on some matriarch stuff which is at the heart of destroying our culture. As an African priest I can tell you he is way off in what he is saying!
Qesankh Mae Kheperu,
What you are saying is correct (in my estimation). So many black women complain about there being a "shortage of good black men" yet I challenge them..., are they even aware of what constitutes a "good black man".
I don't think there is a shortage, it is just that a lot of black women have a skewed or different criteria of what constitutes a good black man. In my experience, a lot of black women don't value the attributes of a good man, they seem to be searching for something else.....
Black women are not looking for good men. They are looking for certain qualities within a man; smooth talk, tall, caters to them, bit of gangster element, spontaneous, irresponsible, and etc. The problem is most of those qualities are not inherit in good men. These qualities turn them on. This could be a result of social engineering to break up the black family unit. But even white women like rebels the difference is they have their fun then settle down with a provider who is steady and reliable. Black woman try to make a thug into a reliable man then complain there are not good men out there when they are the ones actively filtering out or disqualifying good men.
Qesankh Maa Kheperu nail in the coffin
Answer this question was there a polygamy when we in slavery ?
Dumbest question.
So Polygyny won’t work because the sisterhood is messed up? That doesn’t make sense to me. If black women are in competition for the men, that’s because it’s rare to find a loyal, wise man. So the solution is polygamy or “fixing the sisterhood”? The solution isn’t holding more men accountable??? Of course sisterhood needs work, just like brother hood but I don’t think that’s to mainly to blame.
This lady down talks polygyny and I thought she was going to suggest a solution to the issue at hand.
A huge topic to dive into, discussing the future of the Black family and its family structure and how it impacts the Black nation. Polygamy is something on the table to help single impoverished black mothers to get back on their feet economically but also to a sense of unification and improving the Black family structure in the home for Black me are taking care of the Black Home. Now is this right, no, but the intention of Black progression and unity in our home and community might be the way, and God knows ur heart if you are doing it for the child or the children, because it is about saving and educating the Black children to have the Black Consciousness of Life, Wealth, and Identity.
Miss me with the "Theres more women than men..." YAWWWWWNSSSSS!!! NOT SHARING!
i love black people who say shit like "I'm not your brother" to people like this.
SHE IS RESPECTFUL AND RESPONSIVE TO HIS POINTS BUT SHE IS STILL GOING WITH HER SELF-TAUGHT CLOSED-MINDED THINKING WHICH SERVES NO PURPOSE TO THE PROGRESS OF THE DISCUSSION. THATS WHY ISSUES LIKE THIS DONT GET ADDRESSED BECAUSE WOMEN BRING THEIR SHALLOW MINDSET BASED ON FEELINGS REALLY INTO A DISCUSSION THAT HAS ALL THE MATERIAL INFORMATION NEEDED WITHOUT HER OR ANY PERSONAL INPUT BUT THEY WOULD STILL FIND A WAY TO BRING THAT CLOSED VIEWPOINT INTO THE CONVO! AND THUS CARRYING THE CONVERSATION BACKWARDS
Polygamy might be problematic when it's not faith based.Most people assume it is the norm in Africa.,that's no longer the case.I think African Americans should embrace the African community more (African immigrants).Now that goes both sides.Africans living in America should do the same.This should help in bridging this gap.
Why does Dr. Umar seem so disinterested/annoyed with the interviewer? His energy is so off here
Thinking about his next fix 😂
Polygamy in this day and age all parties are able to contribute to the relationship financially. That's the only reason I could see a purpose for it
For those if you that don't know, there is a thing called Polygamy and another thing called Polyamory...
At best, Umar is a Polyamorist, but he is nothing like a Polygamist.
Life is NOT fair, let's get that out the way. Now here's some rules that will change our community for the better!
1. No kids before age 26 PERIOD.
2. No kids before being married successfully for 3 years, and having BOTH parents sign an understanding that they BOTH want to have a child and have a written up plan of how they plan to provide and care for said child.
3. Hold children to an academic standard of A-B honor roll! Blacks do not put the proper value on education which is the key to success.
4. Live well BELOW your means! No designer foolishness and fake hair and nonsense.
5. No killing black people.
6. Actually be a parent when you have children and protect their innocence and keep them from growing up so fast
7. Vote FOR black issues and support BLACK interests
8. Support Black owned businesses
Follow these rules and see if their isn't a change for the BETTER
Not strict enough IMO
Great proposition, but sounds one sided
@@BittyCryp idk wut you mean?
Dtreatz it’s very limiting, and not broad enough to meet all, but that’s just MY opinion.
@@BittyCryp It has to be, otherwise you won't get any progress, and a lot of what he said is backed by data and sound logic. Fact of the matter is, you cant just allow anyone to do whatever they want to do and expect a certain result.
Sharing a "baby's dad" is polygamy.
Miss Piggy no that's not even close to the same thing lol. Baby daddy is a title that isn't respectable at all and you don't get wife benefits being just a baby mama
@@NoName-nj4mw there are more similarities than differences.
@@sparkman1314able there are actually no similarities at all. "Baby mama" is a title that comes along with no privileges and very little respect. A baby mama in no way can be compared to a wife. I say this having a child by a man that I am no longer with so I am technically a baby mama. I don't, haven't and wouldn't sleep my my baby daddy ever again. He's with another woman but the two of us aren't "sharing" a man. He is alllllll hers lol. I'm also in a relationship and those men aren't sharing me because I know which one I belong to. He also has a baby mama that he has had no relationship ties to in years so again there is no sharing. So unless the man is still in relationships with both baby mamas and they are both aware and accepting of it and both reap benefits from him then there is no comparison at all.
No having a side peice
Dammmmmm🤔.....
We're living that reality in our Black community anyway.. It's just unorganized and therefore unsuccessful...
Agree
Big facts
Agreed
Most Christians don't believe in it but dang there all men in the bible had multiple wives.
Most Christians are not the best to give advices when it comes to marriage
That's in the old testament. Polygamy was allowed actually. But God forbiddened it because of the abuse of power males had. The focus wasn't on building a family and respecting women anymore it shifted to extreme lust and extreme want for pleasure. In the new testament it's forbidden.
@Daddy P okay daddy P I respect your belief in that the so-called Bible that has been constructed by humans is rubbish. No need to fight me
@Steve Jhonson nope I'm a human. I read things with insight and I only want to spread posivity no need to fight me. Kind Regards 🙏🙏🏽🙏🏿
@Daddy P i see you know the diff, between polygyny and polygamy, christianity cannot define nor explain true hebraic culture, which polygyny is found in and btw nowhere in the whole bible does the tmh forbid it as well , kudos to your deeper learning sir. most dont know the true meaning behind polygyny and polygamy they are not the same.
The comments are so interesting.
+KeenaArtist very
aren't they...
Im a straight black man who does not promote polygamy. I dont see many black men supporting and raising one family faithfully, so bringing another woman in doesn't seem right.
same, just doesnt make sense.. And that's a lot of fucking energy brothas don't wanna give and admit they lack.
Thank you, I watched a docu of a family that practices it, and the first wife said that once men who are considering it realize the RESPONSIBILITY that comes with it, the decide against it. I was with somebody that tried to force that on me & ultimately decided to kick me AND his 2 children out & said he’ll just make some more babies 🤦🏾♀️ lol.... exactly why this won’t ever work
@@justxkendra OMG THE SAME EXACT THING JUST HAPPENED TO ME!!!! It happens ALOT in the Hebrew Israelite Community!! I was with my twins father for a year put through SO MUCH hell!!! He put us out to be with another woman who supports polygyny & him financially!!! I am BEYOND piss because he told me (Go ahead put me on child support I can just make more babies)
Apple of TMH eye WOW!!! I’m so sorry to hear that, please just keep your faith and trust in Yahweh... he’ll reap what he sews... that woman will too!
@@justxkendra that's the thing I'm all for my people, I'm all for Israel but will that make against TMH if I were to follow through? Because I need help I didn't make these boys by myself & their father who I considered my husband is forcing me to make decisions I don't want to make.... I need help $15 here & there will not help me & these camps have a way of making you feel guilty for doing what needs to be done & standing up for your self not all camps but aloot of them do especially when it comes to the woman they treat them like trash!! & It's not right, I see alot of men go into polygyny not to build a nation in the correct order as it should be, but for their own selfish reasons!! For their benefit alot these camps use these women not for the will of TMH but for their own selfish purpose....
SISTERS GAIN YOUR OWN WEALTH STOP BEING DEPENDENTS. ITS YOUR TIME MAMA LET BUILD OUR SELF WORTHINESS
A man will ALWAYS write your cheques
It is very fine for a woman to seek to be financially independent. What is a great blessing for a woman too have a dependency upon her head, her leader, her husband as well.
louder
Sometimes I hate being a black woman. It is so hard! I feel like we always get the shitty end of the stick. I'm tired of this shit.
It’s perfectly fine to create the life that you want for yourself and not the one society wishes for you. If you want a monogamous relationship or marriage, cultivate that. If you want to have a relationship with a desirable man, go for that and continue to be a desirable woman during that process. I think the real shocker that people will see over the years is more Black women entering into monogamous marriages with desirable non-Black men if the dating pool of Black men becomes too small.
@@ronniacherry Yes I agree..thank you🙏
reality is we don't have to deal with it.... it's not forced it's a choice.....
in America half of these black me can't even support themselves even the ones with no kids..
You are absolutely right
#FACTS
The men who can should have multiple wives.
And the woman are responsible for choosing the man that don't want to work.
Which is why polygamy would work. The men that CAN'T support themselves are put to the side, and the men that can support more than one woman will have no issue doing so. Woman aren't obligated to get into a relationship with men that can't support themselves.
I do not believe in polygamy relationships at all because my faith says it’s not right, but from a realistic stand point for the men that believe in polygamy, most of your actions don’t even equal up to you attaining the responsibility of having a polygamist relationship. You’re not faithful to a simple phone plan, how can you be faithful to two women... some of you men aren’t in your children lives and neglect the very one woman that loves you for you, but you want to add on one more woman to the equation... I call bull crap. Men, let’s be faithful to one woman and one woman only, we can not build up our community if our homes are broken, have a relationship with whatever religion god or belief higher than yourself and nature, have moral about yourself AS A MAN, stay home with your woman and treat her right love your kids and work hard to provide knowledge, wisdom, and assets for your next generation. Once we tackle our home problems, then and only then will we build up our communities. Kick this polygamy bs to the curb
👏 Bravo!! You hit it on the nail.
The most intelligent response on the entire video. 🤗🤗
You got that right i agree with you
@@amenahking7863 Ain't it though
Perfectly stated...somebody give this person a standing ovation.
It all sounds like a good idea until you bring in that 3rd or 4th person and get completely left behind. LOL Happened to me and I laugh at it now but boy ol boy the hurt. Anyone constantly looking outside of self for love is lacking something deeply within & I don't wish to be involved. Also, not looking to play a nanny to anyone's children or share my resources. If you need to pool resources you should rethink creating a family. Different stroke for different folks but never again. It all boils down to someone's selfish reasons of needing some type of help.
Polygamy - I was once against it. It’s not for me - but I understand it’s just like any relationship - there’s still the partnership, trust, honesty and respect involved, resulting in happiness and love for the entire family. It all falls apart when theirs secrecies and lies resulting in betrayal
Shit in order for polygamy to work a man would have to be making some serious money to take care of more than one wife.
its always about money with sisters period.
+David Pitts broke dudes favorite line
A man in a polygamous relationship doesn't need to be able to provide for all the wives. The wives can work too. All of them can work as a team to provide for the whole family.
Carl Johnson then there's no point financially to this
devohnmitchell Hell most men dont take care the ONE WIFE
1400 years ago God gave you all the solutions to all of your social and individual problems but unfortunately, people choose to reject it
people they say " i cannot sustain multiple wives but they are okay with sleeping with multiple women and get them pregnant and leave them not knowing who the father of that child
Ask yourself this question
How does a Muslim man in Afria in the desert is able to take care of 4 wives and have more than 20 kids and all of them grow to be engineers and doctors?
With zero divorce
My grandparent has 2 and one of them is my dad who is a teacher today
and he lived in a village
The one who said " get marry to 4" is the one who say " I will provide for you like i provide for the birds"
Allah said " I will provide for you" and that's why people forgot about him and his guidance and today we are in this mess
Look at prostitution statistics in America and Europe
Look at pornography statistics
Look at drugs abuse
look at the divorce rate in America
look at sexually transmitted diseases
Look at debt( today the majority of American citizens are swimming in debt whether its a credit cards, student loans or mortgages)
Look at alchool abuse!, 2-3 million die each year from alchool
Look at gambling ( people are homeless today because of gambling) and people are in prison because of it
should I continue
Today people forgot about Allah's guidance Allah left them in this chaos but he also said " Follow my guidance and you will return back to your normal life"
But people continue to refuse that message
Chihab Ahmed masha Allah amazing
Jazaka Allah kher brother
I’m no longer Christian but “Let every man have his own wife and every woman her own husband “
David had like 9 wives, Solomon had like 400 concubines. Isiah "for 7 women shall cling to the robe of 1 man"... your point?
@@realchurch2693 was not directed at you. And you're correct
RedIgauna Unfortunately after all was set and done those women did no good for the men and the men ended up regretting marrying so many women. Especially Solomon. He found out that the women were leading him astray from worshiping God.
@@God.sDaughter false David had no regret, and nor did Solomon. The God of the bible was angry with Solomon because he partook in the rituals and ceremonies forv the gods of his foreign wives. Solomon was the most wise BECAUSE of the knowledge attained from exposure to so many women and cultures. But the God of the Bible is a jealous God
@@God.sDaughter it was also the type of women he married. He didnt marry women that believed in God
Can women have more than one husband?
Wow.... so as soon as its the opposite shes a sex slave or dysfunctional ? Or yall joking
In zimbabwe when a man is marrying a woman and goes to the court to sign the marriage certificate, he is given a choice between two types of marriages. They ask if he would want to marry more women later or is going to only marry one wife for life. If he opts for polygamy he gets a certificate which allows him to come back and add more wives therefore allowing his wives to all be legally married to him and in the event of the husbands death they are all entitled to an equal share of the inheritance
The reality is once a woman has a child, which is nearly inevitable considering biology, she is IMMEDIATELY OUT of the labor force. (Unless you want your child being raised by some outside source after the 6 weeks passes in which she has maternity leave.) So anyway, she leaves the labor force because she has to take care of her offspring. This alone shows that a man who wants multiple wives needs to be able to care for his multiple lives. And not in the projects. Why is it so hard for people to believe? I, like many black women, have a master's degree and plenty of skill sets, but if I reproduce then my first and most important skill will be daily rearing of the next generation along with my husband. I won't be going out to work for some white man. And if I do entrepreneurship, it will come secondary to raising our children and taking care of our home. So for those who think they're going to have a harem in which a whole bunch of women work and bring in the majority of income while the man sits around and keeps on having sex? Doesn't make any sense. And women who fall for that are simply thirsty and need to get their hormones in check. Men would never tolerate that from women if the tables were turned, so women should not tolerate that from men.
Sis in Transition I wholeheartedly agree with everything you stated. The man is made to provide and protect his family and his home REGARDLESS, so in polygyny, that role would certainly not change. If anything, it would increase his responsibility.
PREACH!
@@bigballer1399 It wouldn’t because men are lazy.
I think the Nuclear Family works fine people are just not committed or lack morals.
Stfu you dumb peckerwood
U are right,but it con only work for the westerners not in Africa
It’s not for you - that’s fine. But you cannot control judge others because you could be wrong and then....?
Who are you to decide what’s morally correct ?
Exactly
Until we start searching and living in Holiness and living right there won't be no change in the black community. Point blank.
Real talk
I don't believe in signing contracts for love that's clearly the economical aspect and much less be polygamous, it's seems totally non spiritual with a more carnal lower self focus, I would then prefer to just have an intellectual exchange with a man and be celibate then due to having to deal with the subtle bodies of more than one person which could be psychologically overwhelming. It's not for me.
This was very interesting. I agree black women do need to love each other and show more respect for each but I'm selfish, and no way would I share my husband with another woman.
I don't think polygamy is the answer to it not being enough black men for women. The answer, I believe, lies in the fact that we as a community need more unity, better role models and a better educational system.
--- because that somehow creates more men??? There's a shortage period. So unless you want the women left out to become lesbian or nuns, good luck. P.S. You're the ones with the problem. Selfish! Destroy the whole for preservation of self!
+Gr8nessnMe070 If we had more leaders, better education, better opportunities and less people out for themselves maybe these young men would learn how to be men. Maybe alot of them wouldn't spend the majority of their youth and adult life in jail. There isn't a shortage at all, they aren't available. I don't have a problem at all, I'm not losing any sleep worrying about a women turning to women because they cant share my husband with me.
Naturallyorz feminism destroyed our role models and community
zellkingpromotions zellking - I agree
Polygamy is the definition of unity and a better education system. And better role models is a given when dealing with the maturity that it truly requires to be polygamous.
I’m just glad a few people in the comment section have mentioned that polygamy is NOT for everyone. As an individual, I personally do not agree with it and I’m not sure if on a global scale that it has had a major impact on African-Americans as a collective. In the words of lauryn hill “it could all be so simple...but you’d rather make it hard”.
What nation are you from?
True it’s not for everyone, certainly not for me
Talk about sister hood and black men need to make some changes. Well what about brotherhood black men kill each other in this country so now we got sister widows just stick to one. One man and one woman. 2 flesh become 1 flesh. Can’t become 1 with 3, 4,5 and so fourth.
I agree if the men would stop the crime and violence then the prison system will be empty. Then polygyny would be obsolete.
@@tietearoddy exactly smh
Brother Umar too smart his reply on polygamy shut her down but in a good way. Great dialogue with tremendous respect for one another. She had great points as well. When you take on multiple wives it means that you accept responsibility. Family continuity is the only thing that matters. Polygamy has been practiced by black people since the beginning of time.
I didn’t see what GREAT points she made but he made some
Umar is a clown he's not a therapist first off !!! All he's doing is massaging a sort of grooming of his goals his real agenda into the Mass 's ....he's a loser just ask his abandoned daughters
I’m not against polygamy but I’m not necessarily cool with either. I would prefer to have two husbands than be a sister wife.
Exactly
Black women, you have options and that's not limited to BLACK men! Polygyny is not beneficial to you.
Black women should marry black men
@@thegigadykid1 Says who?
You don't get to decide that...and most importantly, you cannot control who anyway marries at the end of the day.
Speak for you. There is no man as wonderful as the black man. Strength, loving, passion, logic. I have a helluva black husband. Strong but gentle. A leader with patience. And I know that the black man I have is so rare. And if there is a black woman that could benefit in our relationship, I am open.
Definitely SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. That's EXACTLY! What they wanted you to do hints why black men are even put in such a set up for failure system to begin with anyway. But, in the end the wypipo time is over... it is TOO LATE. 🌍🧘🏾♀️👑✊🏾
This conversation between these two went very well. The woman was not only listening and responding, but she took the time to think and retort without using emotion and they both were able to have an intellectual and thought provoking dialogue. Much respect to Dr. Johnson, and the sister.
I wish men would learn to not use emotion but men can’t seem to think far enough to even realize that they use emotion.
The way y’all expect literal human beings to never use emotion is wild to me. We are not robots. Men like you are so weird. The way y’all talk about women shows how dick obsessed you are. You didn’t even use her name and you only talked about the way she responded. I’d expect someone with a pfp and name like yours to act like this tho. This is what no hugs do to a man.
@@corimoon3360 Folks keep forgetting anger is an emotion. 😭😭
@@corimoon3360 exactly! tired of these males thinking men don't use emotion. He thought he was saying something and giving a compliment. Very backhanded compliment.
Most women are already sharing and don’t even know it 😮
I’m not against polygamy but I don’t feel like it’s the only answer... we need to have a serious conversation about abortions and what leads to them.
nawl im good with one thats enough
I'm not
That’s what it’s about being honest with yourself and saying I’m not ready or I not deal with the responsibilities that comes with it.
@@corysimmons455 but are you ready?
That's because you broke.
Rich Sigmas love multiple women because they can afford them
Polygamy is just a way of excusing a man’s inability to have one woman the way it should be.
As far as sister wives go, get some damn friends for God’s sake.
Yessss omg finally someone finally said it
Says you people with four kids and all from different fathers.
Who or what determines “the way it should be”? Monogamy is a concept that is fairly new on the spectrum of world history.
Who determines how something should be? seriously?
@@Soul310 fr
When it come to polygamy, I noticed that the women think more about the sex circumstances more than men.
Because the women are the ones that have to share
Not true