Why the Villain of Eden was a Serpent
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I've studied this for a long time, and yet I am torn as to whether or not the Nachash in Genesis 3 is the same as Lucifer (Satan, The Adversary, who rebelled, etc.) who tempted Eve. Is it that Lucifer, HIMSELF, is a Nachash class of being or was it he, HIMSELF, who did the tempting/smooth-talking of Eve in the Garden, or is it that the Adversary/Lucifer/whatever "possessed" or somehow "coaxed" this "Serpent" (nachash) into tempting Eve. So, in essence, is it literally Satan who's doing the tempting, or is it a conspirator of Satan's who did the tempting FOR Satan? And if it's the latter, why would Lucifer do it that way, and not just do it himself? Your thoughts?
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This is a fine complementary presentation to Heiser's lectures on this subject. Wonderful graphics, excellent narration. Thank you!
I'm impressed. You've done a great job. You took what Heiser presented to us in 30 minutes, and explained it in half the time just as well.
Tell me, was this a project for an advanced degree?
Well put! The best breakdown I've come across yet.
Almost right. My guess is the serpent could both walk and maybe fly and then was cursed to it's belly... but it's a guess.
feathers and scales are just different modifications of the same anatomical feature ..hood of a cobra was also referred to as wings. serpent vs seraphim is comparable to naga vs Garuda
The Luminous Numinous indeed.
Thank you Ben.
Nachash means copper, not brass. Zafon (actually: Tzafon) means north (from where evil gets it strength) thus the evil nation that comes from the north. It can also means 'hidden'. It is not a divine fortress. In Isiaih 14 it refers to a mountain in the north or a hidden mountain, or a hidden mountain in the north.
What do you mean by divine being? I don't think Genesis is talking about divine beings per se. I don't even think the ANE lit. was talking about divine beings either. The famous summerian and egyptian gods were not divine beings at all, though some of them indeed wanted to be worshipped as gods, but they were physical beings, not gods. It's just that they were bigger in size than us and had a more advanced culture than primitive humans. Only in later books such as Deuteronomy and of course Isaiah, YHVH becomes the name the Israelites used for God, and so YHVH started to be worshipped as God at a later time, much later than the events described in Genesis to Exodus. What Ezekiel writes are visions, not facts, and by his time YHVH had become the name of God; so, it has little bearing on Genesis.
Basically Eve knew it was a divine being and assumed that he meant no harm.
@@MysteriousApocalypseMan like moses who burned acacai til the tent was full of smoke? oh yeah you guys follow jesus who says ignore the propehts and God
@@michael.1517 its in the torah, that thing christains like to twist
@@michael.1517 it was satire but matthew 11 14 contradicts malachai 4 5, and dumdums like you will google an answere different from the 20 questions not knowing i read the prophecies you ignore
@@michael.1517 Leviticus chapter 6. exodus 30:1 the verse to shorten it for the lazy minded now go cry about moses being a shaman and jesus a false messiah
@@michael.1517 i dont sppeak autisktktkttkktkt
Imagine snakes with wings thats why it is called a dragon a seraphin...
Angels are part of the Unseen World which only God knows the secrets of...
The Serpent was not a snake. It was the Nachash, a Seraphim angel which was possessed by Lucifer who was a Cherubim. The Seraphs are upright walking and talking beings, not literal "snakes."
@@Rotisiv you can see angels...people in the bible did
I have wondered if the eating of dust refers to the destruction of mankind because Adam was made from the dust, snakes don't eat dust but the serpent destroys humans made of dust. Just a thought.
The only thing holding the dust together is God, The Truth, in the soul. Add a bit of deception(ego) to the mix and the dust comes apart.
Insightful
Adam and Eve
caroline graystone You're reading between the lines! Back off with the wacky tobaccy and read Genesis 1 - 3 again.
Yes, the dust refers to man. Satan is a man, not the cherubim.
I love Dr. Heiser's teachings. He really opened my eyes to a lot of things the modern church does not talk about. May he rest in peace.
There is a reference to the snake crawling on the earth and eating the dust of the earth.
Over the years this has made me ponder what this meant;well a few years ago I found out that snakes tastes small particles of dust in the air every time they flick their tongues;they take these dust particles into your body to help them identify threats food surroundings and more they store the dust like a map for future reference. So they literally eat dust.
Maybe God did curse snakes. I mean I find it is pretty interesting and hard to believe that a writer thousands of years ago could have figured that out with just looking at a snake. It’s either that or all metaphorical of Satan, or both idk. I’m not God, I wasn’t there, so I can’t be a reliable source.
Amazing video!
InspiringPhilosophy Oh, Michael, such a coincidence that we follow the same channel. How are you going?
@@awhimoke3262 rabbi tovia singer is shit.
Moschiach & nachash the hebrew words contain a numeral value of 358, messiah & serpent from these hebrew words both mean the exact same thing in gematria, messiah also means christos, what do you think you been worshipping the entire time when you we're always getting defensive over the baal sun worship christian theology made by man over nothing? The creator & our savior never associated themselves to christianity for a reason because of how it symbolized baal, the sun & the serpent, historians & bible scholars have been lying to us about everything. You're no better than satan & the evil within him if you attempt to conceal the truth about original christianity's pagan roots. You can't win against the creator with satan's christian religion you think you can by lying to everyone but you can't, you can't conceal the truth from the world with darkness. He'll judge you for your actions when you leave this world Michael. False prophets will never enter into the kingdom of the creator.
I'm glad to c more and more people stepping outside of the evangelical box. Dr. Heiser is with the bizness!
Bizness? Anthony, can you expand please? Thank you sir, Christopher
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@@christophecrist2171 hey Christophe forgive me, I wasn't doing a grammar police thing.
In comments I sometimes miss meanings, Anthony may have just been given the Dr. H some props.
My request for expanded thought was just me trying to find out if there was some slang I was unfamiliar with or some other meaning. I hope you understand it was not an attempt to start a throw down or just be a jerk. Thanks, greetings from the Midwest Christopher
"If you read Gilgamesh in high school..." but wait a second... they actually teach that in school?
They do
The Bible says he is the evil one. Why the world is like it is - this present evil age - with the knowledge of good and evil. I long for the new heavens and new earth - or the renewed earth. The new earth the home of righteousness. No more sin, rebellion and corruption. To have glorified bodies putting on incorruption. The earth covered with God’s glory.
This is why it drives me NUTS when natural materialistic modern people say nonsense about the snake being an evolutionary symbol of predation. Like that doesn’t even make sense that Israelites would fear garden snakes above everything else never mind the fact that the snake symbolizes an angel.
Quite interesting Ben, excellent exegesis. Now, my questions are, when God said that the serpent was more crafty than any beast. If the serpent was Lucifer and not a disguise, if he showed himself as what he is, why is he compared to beasts? which beasts is God referring to?
And Gen 3:1 says "the serpent became cunning from all living (chay חית translated 'beasts') of the field made Yahweh God . . .." This excludes Satan from being the serpent because he was not a living being of the field made by Yahweh.
@@solitairecat1 Actually such a translation isn't inherent within the verse. InspiringPhilosphy actually has a video where he addresses this very objection:
1. Genesis 3A: The Serpent (Timestamp - 5 minutes 30 seconds)
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I also dug around and found that serpent had the different meanings in Hebrew, one being divination. Definition of divination can mean "teacher of forbidden knowledge". And thats why I concluded it was used as serpent.
I also did some studying and it seems to me that all men and women from beginning to end of time was as one in Adam. before God placed Adam in the Garden he told him to be fruitful and multiply, and it was so. This was before the seperation of eve as well.
Meaning we all made the decision together as mankind to learn the knowledge of good and evil, Adam being all men and Eve all women together as one. Giving us all full accountability for our knowledge and punishment in this life. (Dying). Ive never heard this preached by anyone either. I read Genesis so many times b4 without understanding it the way I began to during that study in a camper that day alone. Tell me what u think about that.
From what Ive studied... Adam prounouced Adom means mankind....
@luis garcia Elohim with a Capital E in Hebrew translates into "He that is the Power over powers". The Angels are alot Like us in we are both a creation from The Most High or Elohim.
elohim small e, just means gods or powers. So angels played no part in creation. Also the word rib is actually more commonly translated as womb, and can even be translated in that verse as rib and womb, which is pretty amazing.
My Mom got a cat and just called it Kitten for a few years until one day she named it Fluff. Adam just called her Woman until Genesis 3:20 . . ." After this" Adam called his wife’s name Eve, "because" she had to become the mother of everyone living. . .
seems to me, to be
Jesse Clinton God told the sixth day creation to be fruitful and multiply. That’s all the races. Seventh day God rests. Eighth day He makes Adam. Then , later Eve. He does not tell them to be fruitful. He tests them. If they would of passed the test, God would have overshadowed Eve with His Spirit and Christ would of come through her and then eventually go be the savior to the sixth day creation. But Eve had sex with Satan, for he wanted to taint the seed, knowing Christ was to come through the genealogy of Adam. So, Gods backup plan was to follow the seed of Adam ( the tribe of Judah) and when an obedient couple came, overshadow her.( Mary and Joseph) they both are from the tribe of Judah. Hope this helped. Reread Genesis one and two. Peace be with you
Jesse Clinton don’t take my word, reread it. He never tells Adam and Eve to procreate
Saraphim remind me somewhat of dragons.
Exactly, they look reptiloid
Answers in Genesis thinks that they are pterosaurs.
Very good video. Its a bit problematic that you refer to this being as "Lucifer" however, considering this association with the Roman deity was made very late, and only based on a single line from Isaiah in which he is applying a metaphor about the movement of the planet Venus aka the morning star ⭐(known to the Romans as Lucifer) to the king of Babylon's fall from grace.
Beautiful. Heiser's book is going on my reading list.
It makes sense, given how the Devil was spoken to be the highest of all the angels and capable of deception in the most brilliant disguises.
Who's here after watching Lil Nas X Call me by your name? Satanic symbolism is so strong in popular music these days...
Well at the End of days that Serpent became a great red Dragon soooo.....
Yes it was a growing nature in him...
A dragon is simply a flying serpent..
@@Airdhem111 Evolved to hellish proportions.
Given that the Genesis narrative is closely tied to Mesopotamian mythology, it's not a stretch to connect the serpent of Eden (Nāḥāš - נחש) with the Sumerian deity Ningishzida whose symbol was that of a snake. A ruler of the underworld (the dust), he was also known as the "Lord of the Good Tree".
I've studied this for a long time, and yet I am torn as to whether or not the Nachash in Genesis 3 is the same as Lucifer (Satan, The Adversary, who rebelled, etc.) who tempted Eve. Is it that Lucifer, HIMSELF, is a Nachash class of being or was it he, HIMSELF, who did the tempting/smooth-talking of Eve in the Garden, or is it that the Adversary/Lucifer/whatever "possessed" or somehow "coaxed" this "Serpent" (nachash) into tempting Eve. So, in essence, is it literally Satan who's doing the tempting, or is it a conspirator of Satan's who did the tempting FOR Satan? And if it's the latter, why would Lucifer do it that way, and not just do it himself? Your thoughts?
I really dont think so.There is little similiarity between Ningishzida and Nachas aside from the fact that they are both serpentine and associated with earthen elements;their roles could not be more different.(Lord of the good tree in Ningishzida's case is more of the fact that he was associated with vegetation)
It is more reasonable to infer that both near east cultures venerated serpents as divine or semi-divine beings
A fresh new take on Biblical research! (at least for me).
Thanks so much Brother, loved it.
All "speculations" and "possibilities"..., I guess I'll look for truth somewhere else smh
Well done!
I also made some studies on the subject, except that I don't have any book written.
First: lucifer it is not the name of anything like what we know as being Lucifer (the archangel, or cereb/Cherubim). Heilel ben Shahar (in short - the morning star), in the literal context of Isaiah, it refers to the king of Babylon. But lucifer is just a word, a calling (I think you should have make it clear), a Latin translation of the word heilel. Heilel ben Shahar can be translated in a few ways (we exclude the meaning of the word lucifer - light bringer). "Heilel" can be "helel" and "shahar" cand be "saharon". Heilel - refers to a bright/shining star. Helel - to shine, also to boast. Shahar - dawn, morning, east (can refer to the crescent moon). Saharon - moon or crescent moon. So, "Heilel ben Shahar" - Shining star son of Dawn or simply a shining star and the crescent moon (removing the word "son"/ben).
Now. If you read "The Epics of Baal", you will find that it can very well be what it's written in Isaiah (Heilel ben Shahar is Baal)(star and crescent being the symbol of Ba'al).
The other thing that I have find about "Cherubim"(kerubhim) or singular Cherub(kerubh): Caleb/Kaleb (used as a name) or keleb The Bible's common word for dog. Also, insn't it "keleb" the same with Cerberus/Kerberos? (this may very well be far-fetched)
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I think you mean the devil ?. There is a Lucifer, his name is Ea . Yet there is a Satan too. His name is Marduk. All of the Elohim are the devils !
Yes studying that one book really shows how much you don`t know about the subject ! Ken Harris !
Interesting, the symbol of Islam is also star and crescent moon. Any commonalities between Babylonian baal and Arab Islam?
@@emil_king8237 More commonalities are the Kaaba ! The Kaaba had 365 idols in it before Islam was founded by Muhammed. The last Idol in the Kaaba was Hubal. HU is a god from Egypt that personifies the spoken word. Then there is the Bal which is really Baal. Baal is Marduk Ra. Marduk may very well be Allah ! Although I have been told that title went to Nannar Suen !
" Snake ", " serpent " and " dragon " are common titles for priests/kings in Mesopotamian literature. ........................smh, you guys need to hit the books
Phenomenal video. I have really been enjoying your intense treatment of the Hebrew and the Ancient Culture. I'm currently a Biblical Studies student in Seminary and you're driving me in the direction of an Old Testament Studies Ph.D. I do have a question for you though, how do you treat the beginning of Job then if the rebellion of Lucifer was in the Garden (if that is indeed what you are arguing)? In Job, the Accuser is still allowed access to the throne room with the Sons of God, yet Job, though written earlier than Genesis, came Chronologically later than Adam (barring a pre-adamic creation and humanity).
While I believe some of your presentation, I believe you go off the rails with some of your work.
What is your view of the Nephilim? Do you agree with Heiser as well on this?
I have plans to tackle that subject in queue. I think the evidence for the supernaturalist interpretation is overwhelming, especially after reading Amar Annus' paper. I also found Heiser's argument compelling in Unseen Realm.
See, I read both his books on the issue and I was thoroughly unconvinced it is referring to supernatural beings. I take John Walton's view that they are just human rulers. Heiser never addressed my specific objections to his view or the reasons I think nothing supernatural is happening in Genesis 6:1-4. I don't think we can thrust a supernatural interpretation onto this small text unless we read it through the lens of the book of Enoch, which I believe to be a much later attempt to re-interpret this small passage. I can't see any reason to interpret Nephilim to mean anything else than 'men or renown.'
It's been a couple years, and my recollection of the arguments are clouded, so I will have to reassess the literature if I do a video on it.
Annus discovered uncatalogued Mesopotamian inscriptions that point-blank call the Apkallu "Watchers." This is significant because Daniel 4 refers to the heavenly Watchers as קדשין--a title for the heavenly sons of God in Israelite and Ugaritic religion. Since Genesis 6 is full of Mesopotamianisms, these inscriptions would seem to therefore give us direct cultural interface.
I agree that those who interpret the Old Testament with Enoch are using poor methodology, however, I think there are good arguments that the *New Testament* authors make allusions to Enoch in manners that imply *they* took the same supernaturalist interpretation of Genesis 6. For example, the Greek word translated “hell” in II Peter 2:4 is not the expected Hades but the anomalous tartarus. Bremmer notes, “Virtually all passages in which the verb (kata)tartaroo occurs refers to Greek myths which have giants contained to chains in an event similar to the Watcher interpretation of Gen. 6,” and we know first century Jews were drawing that connection (E.g. Josephus Ant. 1.73) Jan N. Bremmer, “Remember the Titans,” in The Fall of the Angels, (Netherlands: Brill, 2004), 58.
I'm anticipating, however, that these arguments are old news to you, so I offer them merely as examples of why I currently land where I do on the issue.
I think you need to bury your head in the sand to explain away the Jude reference.
I'm not dogmatic about Genesis 6. However I think that the Usage of the term 'sons of God' in Ugarit gives strong evidence that those in Genesis 6 and Deut 32 were divine.
Micheal Heisner explains it good!👍
That is easily one of the most interesting things I have ever listened to.
Inspiring philosophy brought me here!
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Eve is the villain. Eve does not follow god rules.
I've heard it was Osiris and Isis that we call Adam and Eve. Can anyone answer if you know or think you know??
The child of Eve to crush Lucifer’s head is the Lord Jesus Christ who restored the relationship between God and man.
The Book of Revelation describes four angelic beings near the throne of god, one having the face of a man, one being like a lion, another like an ox, and one like an eagle. So we see that there are angels with animalistic features around the throne in that book. Perhaps Satan belonged to this group in the past and he was the one that was like a serpent.
I also kind of wonder if this actually more of a case where the animals look like these angels, not the angels looking like the animals. I mean that the animals were made to look like these angels in order to honor them.
Interesting. I today came to the conclusion that the serpent was Lucifer using a real life Serpent in Leviathan. It was the crooked serpent who was the tool of satan to deceive eve. So the curse affected both the literal serpent and the spiritual serpent.
That's been my conclusion as well. The two worlds - spiritual and physical - effect and REflect each other, the spiritual being predominant and causative. What occurs in the spiritual realm will always effect the physical.
*2:50** ALPHA-DRACONIANS!*
And I just realized cherubim and seraphim resemble UFO's. Flying, shining metal beings.
Very good we are getting close
if the evil ones can appear as a UFO, to lead people astray, in to false belief in space aliens, and no belief in cherubs and angels... Meanwhile, the angels, cherubs, spirits, God, gods. its all real and they are not space ships. That is the way non believers choose to imagine a description. why they can believe in green space men in UFO that can travel faster than the speed of light and go undetected by global defense... but they cant believe in angels and etc...
voidremoved I encourage you to read The Birth of Satan by T.J. Wray and Gregory Mobley. It is a summary of many scholarly works (cited in the book) that helps show the evolution of the serpent character in the Torah all the way to the English Christian belief in Satan. There are multiple tracks and influences from surrounding culture and earlier written works that have influenced these characters. In summary. An adversary that is the opposite of God did not exist until after the 1st century C.E.
Exactly, and what do ppl that have been abducted say ? They took fluids and such from or made women pregnant and then came and took the child. Sounds correct to me...
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You headed too far, there is no way those beings can turn into physical spacecrafts which literally took people for a ride across the universe. UFO's are physical but the aliens in them are a whole new dilemma. Also there are other much friendlier aliens that want nothing but peace with humans
I am not in the Heiser fan club. Most of what he wrote about “The Divine Council” has been known for at least 150 years, and that just the latest wave of interpretation. Heiser put just enough spin on it to make it sound “profound new insight”. He has a lot of error mixed with truth. I earnestly tried to see something good enough to be more than something for another Frank Peretti to write a fascinating piece of fiction from. Obviously, people are jumping to conclusions that sound scholarship had to overrule in the past due to obvious scriptural contradictions and anomalies it would cause.
I was hopeful once when Heiser brought up 1 Peter 3, the preaching to the spirits in prison. He was laughing at those who avoided the subject but he had no answer either. And, he totally overlooked chapter 4 which clearly continues the story.
He was an interesting, but overrated flash in the pan. I sure hope no one starts a cult over him.
I know it’s like turning a sacred cow in tonight’s barbecue in India, but somebody has to say it.
This guy knows nothing about the parable teachings of Jesus or the allegories in the Bible.
When we are in the sexual act, that is the field where we find that subtle force, the force of the serpent in action. This serpent is what in Latin is named Lucifer: Lux is “fire” and Fer is “ferry, carrier.” “The carrier of the light-force” is the meaning of Lucifer. The carrier of the life force of God is the carrier of “Shaddai-El-Chai.” Lucifer is the most subtle force that manifests in our physical body, our own “Adamah,” but in the field of Yesod, that is, in “Shaddai.”
When that serpent is lifted we then have Jehovah within. Therefore when we state that the prophet is a prophet of Jahavah - who is not a person outside in the clouds of heaven as people think - but a fire, it is “Chai” life inside of you. To lift up the serpent in the wilderness is a process in which you have to raise Shaddai-El-Chai, the life of the field of Yesod, which is God, up to the brain, in order to become a true witness of Jehovah.
They have preserved this knowledge in the East with Raising the Chi and Kundalini. The people in the west have been completely shunned from this ancient teaching and have fallen for literal meanings and indifference instead of the intended meaning of the scriptures. This is the great Vatican deception so that they could control you.
Proverbs 25:2
Do you have the material in the description on a new blog?
Interesting view of the topic, know of Dr Michael Heiser and his view on Psalm 82, very presented video as this first I seen of this channel and I even seen a comment from IP a year old below. Allways test everything.
I have a question, how is it a curse to tell a snake it will crawl on its belly? It already crawls on its belly.
I guess they used to have legs
Um....because the reformers wanted to deny their ancestral spirituality and get rid of the idea of Kundalini and woman power?
the dust thing is really interesting. I had been kicking around this idea, i had been listening to the bible project and some stuff like this came up, and i had in my head the thought that maybe he wasn't cast to his belly because he lost his feet, but if he was angelic than maybe he lost his wings. but this idea that the dust is attatched to the idea of the underworld is actually way more illuminating. this makes alot of sense, really fascinating.
Amazing, the best video I have seen explaining the snake. Congratulations from argentina.
Where can I find this picture of snake seraphim featured in your video?
All the Egyptian line images and line Judean seals are from Othmar Keel's book Jahwe-Visionen und Siegelkunst, which he collected from Egyptological 20th century public domain works. The ink art is original to me.
Beautiful brother, truly stunning art!
Essentially Dragons
@bens7686 Thank you. I've come back to this because of something that has struck me concerning Revelation ch 17 and 18. The spirit of this Mystery Babylon seems to be in line with the serpent in Genesis (man being his own god). While the Dragon on the other hand wants to be worshipped as god. In short there seems to be two distinct personalities at work here. The Dragon is more in line with the devil tempting Jesus in the NT offering all the kingdoms of the earth in exchange for worship. In Rev 17 and 18 the 10 kingdoms of the Dragon hate Babylon and burn her with fire. One is a destroyer and the other is a perverter/corrupter. The dragon appears to be the one with the authority over "this world" and choses to dispatch with the rival anti-god empire/system where in times past they co-existed (Murdoch/ Ishtar for example).
KJ, Prov25:2 "It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, but the glory of kings is to search out a matter." Seminaries and pastors have built a box around themselves, fearing to search out God's concealed matter. In this, they fear being rejected by the others in that box. Thus, they fear man more than they fear God. Rev1:6 says we saved ones are kings, and we should be examining deeper hidden matter. But 2Tim3-7 describes today's (last days context) teachers; "...always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of truth." There is so much more in the Bible waiting for kings to find it. Come on! Get out of your box!
So When I saw your comment, I just couldnt help but challenge you with my favorite Bible mystery. Have fun! Mark 3:24-27; with emphasis on 3:26 and 3:27. Numbers 21:5-9. Luke 15:11-32. Those first three are the meat of the matter. But for full understanding you should also compare Malachi 4:5; Luke 1:17; Matthew 11:14. Now, the final piece is the most important, because if you have been taught bad doctrine you wont have even a chance of understanding. Compare Revelation 20:10 look at it in the interlinear on Bible Hub or check the Youngs Literal Translation or Berean Literal Bible. Leave a comment so I know if you are a king or not.
@@shanebuelna7138 Hello, Shane......... I'm willing to send you my book, but I need an address to send it free smailmail. I'm not going to get into a verse versus verse tussle online. My book will let you know if I'm a king or not. My email addy to send an address is DavWms777@aol.co m (eliminate space. ) I will send booklet free to any who send addy. Dave
Wow! great work! But I cant get past....so...serephim and and cheribum are the same thing? I think we are missing something, here. Cheribum are always called living ones. I have never thought of Adamah (beings are often named after their dominion) as a cherub until now.
Nachash was coppery and seraphs are firey...same as elohim are shiny and melachim are firey.
Amazingly deceiving video .....
Just like in the garden the serpent twisted the truth , this video does the same ....
Be careful
Please elaborate.
Adam did not disobey God!
God told Adam - "do not eat of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, for you will die".
God did not tell Adam - "obey me, or you will die". No. "you will die" is not a threat, a punishment from God.
God gave Adam information "if you go with that hooker, you will get crabs".
"Good and Evil" is Duality. Dimension. By eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam died.
Death is 'mem-tav', while Truth is 'alef-mem-tav'. Thus, 'death' is 'without truth', 'without God', 'without beginning'
So God prevents Adam from eating from the Tree of Life, and live forever in death.
Also, watch 'Symbols of an Alien Sky' by David Talbot, the Father is Saturn, Mary is Venus, Adam/Jesus is Mars
Saturn (shamash, chiun, remphan, moloch) fell, Venus fell, Mars fell. So "the fall" is applied to 3 entities. Jesus for example, is the Bright Morning Star (Lucifer) too! He is the stone that was rejected, became the chief cornerstone! Jesus is the last Adam.
Heiser taught me a lot but he doesn’t seem to understand Yahweh is not God. Even someone that studies the text can’t see past the veil
Adam IS NOT SATAN. IF Adam was Satan, why go through the trouble of transforming yourself into a snake...? Would it not be easier to just give Eve "the apple" IF Adam was Satan...? lol
Also, that was one of the main reasons why Satan was cast down. It is because Father YAHuwah Sent Satan the memo that Satan was to serve Adam; and Satan didn't want to do it because Satan feels mankind is beneath him...
Fun fact: there is a 900 km Seraphim mudfossil in Morocco desert.
I see some parallel between Lucifer and Prometheus from Greek myth. Both figures who rebelled against the authorities and gave humans forbidden knowledge and were punished and cast down. In this case he gave humans fire.
The thing to remember is that the Word of God is the Word of God... do you not understand that one need not break it all down by trying to make it say anything other than what any normal person who reads His Word would easily understand. If you did this with say Jn 3:16 you would essentially corrupt God’s Word by your intellectual pondering’s. IT SAYS WHAT IT SAYS. Stop reading into His Word what it does not say, just read it and believe it!😊😊
Seems like most of the references are from late Hebrew writings commenting on early Hebrew writings and Deuteurocanonical works to justify this opinion. Doesn't seem very convincing regarding early Israelite views of the serpent.
Adam is Israel and the serpent is a false prophet (Pss 140-1).
What do know about the four headed beast in Ezekiel?
I tremendously miss Dr Heiser. Most likely he's lining out the divine council, telling them how to do their job!
Someone get this man a girlfriend... or two.. or five... er something...
The constant negative draining tone. The constant slowing of speech on the last few syllables of a sentence. The constant unnecessary downward inflection. The low dragging vocal tonality. Mother of God please kill me now and send my soul to hell, that i might be free from this man's endless onslaught of hopeless abysmal tonal quality. ugh. Golden illustrious information like this should not be shrouded with such blackened intonations, it should be a crime.
I need more. Give me more info please.
Very well put if i must say
What if the Jews made the serpent into Satan and then Christians and Muslims followed ??!! ..what if this Seraph being is the true creator but only for this World but not the entire Universe , like a sub creator ..metaphor for serpent but serpents can be also good and evil even real serpents care for young and kill with venom
The child of Eve is Jesus Christ, who came through the woman and notice that God didnt say a child of Adam because the male was not required to bring Jesus the Word of God to Earth. The snake striking his hill, refers to the crucifixion of Jesus on the cross. And the crushing of the head of the serpent refers to the victory of Jesus over death and rising from the grave to save humanity and make a way back to God hence delivering the biggest blow to the Devil
Great job! I have an idea I’d love to talk to you about... is that possible?
I wonder about taxonomy, if they would see snakes and worms as related. The worm eats dirt and us and is always an embodiment of death. In ancient thinking you could carry all the ideas of both without division
Leviathan is identified as Nachash.
Jewish legend says that there is an Angel named Rahab, angel of the Sea who rebelled
i guess im going to be the only one to provide some constructive criticism.
you moved a little to fast.
the sub font was too light in color to see
a good portion of the time it was difficult to follow you, because there was no clear marker, no follow the bouncing ball. lol and even if there was, the mustard yellow font color was difficult to read.
thats the end of my criticism, now a question
did you notice the red cherub out line at the 9:15 mark? i know that serpents are used to describe Satan, but im sure you are aware that goats, and to be more specific, the goat of mendes also known as the baphomet is symbolic of him, right? so again, this might just be a coincidence but look at that cherub symbol with the outstretched wings, it looks like it creates the form of a bloody goat head, and the 5 point star, just saying, im sure its nothing but just wanted to point it out
Enoch כוח Thank you! I was looking for this kind of comment. He has a verbal diarrhea. Talking too fast. Couldn't follow through.
@@sunreds Pause, think, rewind if necessary.
Hotel CharliHill Talking too fast is not that charming... bad presentation.
@@sunreds Alrighty then.
Satan is from the Djinn race , they lived on earth 1000 years before Adam was created ! they're not angels , Satan was righteous in the beginning so that's why god ascended him to the heavens & that's why he knows a lot about human & life
Do you think that is why we find them every where 🐍 s in mexico china japan Greek Roman etc
Excuse me can I send you some info on who this snake is or represents in the bible?
I have more biblical scripture to prove your video correct.
I can also prove what the tree of knowledge is and its fruit.
There's another one of these beings here now.
14:20 Ezekiel 28:12-17 Refers to Adam!? That makes no sense whatsoever.
This is a fine example of how looking at scripture in the original languages reveals a multi-dimensional meaning that we are oblivious to when reading it in English. That being said, Mr. Heiser does misinterpret a few things to support his conclusion that the villain of Eden was a serpent which I would like to draw your attention to.
I agree that the word serpent and brass are the same in Hebrew, however a person describing an angel as “like polished brass” in appearance doesn’t mean they are brass. Brass contains impurities/dross that will melt before God Ezek 22:18 - 22, who is a fire Daniel 7: 9 - 11, that we must be pure to stand before Zech 13:9.
The garden of Eden is NOT God’s holy mountain. God’s holy mountain is where Christ was installed as king Psalms 2:6, the holy city, Jerusalem, that comes down out of heaven from God after the final judgment Rev 20:11 - 15 & 21: 2 & 10. It is Zion where YHVH dwells on high, which is filled with justice and righteousness Isaiah 33:5. Eden, God’s garden (Hebrew gan) sounds like paradise, but a better word for it is enclosure. The Hebrew gan is from the verb ganan which means to cover, surround, defend. Eden is where we are tested by fire Joel 2:3, in the furnace of affliction Isaiah 48:10, which destroys 2/3, and 1/3 are refined as silver, tested as gold, and call on God and he will answer them Zech 13:8 & 9.
In Ezekiel 31, trees are used as an analogy for mighty ones who rule the earth. He describes one like Pharaoh in greatness v2, Assyria was a very high cedar tree with its top among the clouds, the waters made it grow and the deep made it high, that became haughty in its loftiness, and all the birds, beasts and great nations lived under its shade, the cedars in God’s enclosure could not match it, could not compare with its beauty, and all the trees of Eden in the garden of God were jealous of it v3 - 10. God gave into the hand of the mighty one, for his wickedness, driven him out v11, and all the trees were given over to death, to the earth beneath, among the sons of men, with those who go down to the pit v14. This aligns with Ezek 28: 1 to 10 and is referring to Adam when he was driven out of Eden in Gen 3:24, given into Satan’s hand, who became the ruler of the world John 12:31.
The ‘man’ (adam) created in God’s image in Genesis 1: 26 & 27 was both male and female, like the angels, like we will be if we are resurrected Matthew 22: 24 to 30. It was this male and female man (adam) that God formed from the dust of the ground, gave the breath of life, became a living being and was placed in the garden of Eden Gen 2:7 & 8. This is when the man became flesh, as Paul reveals in contrasting the first man Adam becoming a living being, with Christ, the last Adam, a life-giving spirit, the first man of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven in 1 Cor 15:45 & 47, revealing their opposite nature.
Adam is identified as a mighty one (Hebrew ish) in Gen 2:23, 3:6 & 16. In Strong’s Concordance, ‘ish’ #376, means “god, god-like one, mighty one”, but is translated mostly as ‘man’, ‘men’, or in this case ‘husband’. It becomes evident when we look at the Hebrew text, that ‘man’ (adam’s) and ‘mighty ones’ (ish’s) are not the same Jer 49:18, ‘ish’ lie and ‘adam’ repents Numbers 23:19, ‘ish’ language is evil Psalm 140:11, ‘ish’ devise mischief and give wicked counsel Ezek 11:2, ‘ish’ set up idols Ezek 8:11 & 14:3, and it is no coincidence that Adam and Cain were both ‘mighty ones’ (ish) and both had the ground cursed for murder in Gen 3 & 4.
Thus I conclude that Adam was the serpent who deceived Eve in the garden of Eden. As Paul stated “Since by a man came death, by a man came resurrection of the dead, for as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive” 1 Cor 15: 21 & 22. Jesus was born a male child Rev 12:5 to recoup rule of the earth that Adam had lost to Satan. Jesus, became a fiery serpent, that when lifted up healed the nations Numbers 21:8 & 9 & John 3:14.
Wow that's intense lol I'm gonna have to mow that over for awhile. Thanks for sharing 😊
Apart from the text from religious books saying God is God what proof is there that he should be considered God, apart from the threat the religious or religion threatens of violence, punishment for anyone who asks
Isaiah talk about the seraph 3 times, they are winged flying snakes who burn without a doubt also call the dragon in the book of revelation
Genesis never speak about the Satan.Genesis talk about the serpent,intelligent animal capabile to talk .God curse the serpent because lay Eva and Adam not the Satan !
Spirochette why do u think the earth burns water brings them alive. Cold also freezes them. Can change the hearts and minds of men foolish ways think all little out of the triangle
Very cool video!
/claps energetically
Is not Heiser one of those who claims the " Nephilim ( fallen ones not giants ) were the result of the union between fallen angels and human women? When the text clearly tells you the Nephilim were on the earth both before and after the alleged nefarious union ?
Be careful of self proclaimed Biblical scholars. You may have noticed that there is A LOT of them.....and very few agree with each other on almost any Biblical point. What these people do is begin to pull understandings of other ancient texts. They use these understandings of non Biblical texts to help solidify their theories. It cannot be stressed enough that everything you need to know is found in the KJV Bible. Listen to God's Words.....NOT MANS. The cherubim are described in the Bible. We do not need to jump into other sources to get a physical description of them. God Yells us that humans were made.....in the image of God and the angels. That means we look like God and the angels.....which means They look like us. Angels do not resemble serpents. Satan is an angel. A shining enchanter. He appeared that way in the Garden as well. He was created by God superior to the rest of God's creations. This means that he is smarter and more physically perfect than the rest of God's creations. He is a physically beautiful enchanter who appeared before Eve and used his charisma good looks and deviant brain to seduce her physically. Both Adam and Satan impregnated Eve. Satan's son was Cain. Cain carried on Satan's DNA through his bloodline which survived the flood. His children are called kenites and they rule today's world by lying about being jews.
Blesses, it is very interesting subject but the Bible is very specific about our Father God business and the Bible said Lucifer was a Cherub not a |Seraph. Dr. MH also is in the group of Theologians that believe in The Gap theory all these are half truth and half lies. We need to re-read The Bible with The Guidance of The Holy Spirit. Blesses
Yes but Seraph are a sub-set of the Cherubin
says who?@@alonzoc537
What verse do you find lucifer and cherub mentioned together?
Short answer. They are constellations that rotate in the sky. Hydra, the snake is on the horizon. They all rotate to west eventually hitting the horizon and going to the “sheol”. The ancients thinking the earth was flat. In reality just going out of site to the other side of the earth.
Is this footage yours or IP's?
I've seen the same video in his channel. Just wondering.
0:31 serpentine divine being? why would it be compared only to the beasts of the field in craftiness and not with other spirit beings?
God wants us to obey his word but puts his wprds in code. Read ALL the bible and not just the “Pretty” bits and you will see it’s bullshit.
it represent him in God s throne as an amphibians
Funny, all this from Heiser sounds like something that could be incorporated without too much difficulty and mental gymnastics also into the ancient astronaut theory. Especially the part about the serpent in Eden being an actual serpentine being. And yet Heiser as we know is fanatically against the ancient astronaut theory. Or does he do the whole "ancient astronaut debunker" schtick on purpose just to be a pain in the rear or just to get attention for himself?
Why would anyone dislike this? 😂
How the fuck am i supposed to remember all this, repeat it so it makes sense to normies & impress people i meet when im drunk using some other smart persons research?
WTF dude
If the villan was a serpent then why was it cursed to go on its belly?
Satan is just walking around on earth he no longer welcomed in heaven .that is the meaning of eating the dust.he is dwella now .stars falling as shorting stars