@@oORoOFLOo I am critisism, and yes, that's what people tell me "don't say anything unless it's positive". So now that's what I tell Josh, don't be toxic with "I tOlD YOu sO!"
Underealm lich is one of those cards, that you don't realise how good it is until you actually play it. This card has gotten me around and through so much in my Nethroi deck. Getting around Stax, simply not having to pay for a smothering Tithe, etc etc. If you're a graveyard deck, at least give this card a try, it's huge!
yeah, i mean they ain´t even talking about synergies imo all these have been 2-3 card combinations that do something, my understanding of synergies is a whole bunch of cards work in a similair direction and interact with each other, like +1/+1 counter theme, proliferate super friends ect.
Seriously love Cassius' deck- if you kept losing on Game knights to Josh most times you just dream of the day you can Narset- hull breacher- wheel Josh and he saw it coming but no one believed him... lol awesome moment!
Yeah I don’t blame him. Cassius has had some rough games here in the past so it was awesome to see him pop off. And he’s obviously become a better player over the last couple of years too.
@@Matisyahuwu he didnt take the chain of vapor bait- its a trap card bc u think u get value but u actually go down a land... cass didn't take the bait, kept the momentum
@@fernandostar3507 only if he were using a deck that could have brought lands back like crucible too- but still it was early enough that down 1 land would have put him off his tempo but I see your point-
Jimmy is great and I really enjoy him but man the energy between Josh and DJ is so good! You can tell they both had a ton of fun throughout this episode and regularly hype each other up throughout. I hope DJ returns more often!
jimmy sometimes feels like josh's yesman while dj doesn't mind debating and stands by his opinion, even tho, it is sometimes annoying i think he is overall more enjoyable thanks to that.
I mean I wanted some inspiration about my group hug deck so I watched his decktec about his group hug deck... It just got out everyones lands from their deck and destroyed all lands... I didnt know how many mass land destruction spells there were until DJ's deck was shown haha. I honestly dont think he is far off Craig when DJ is in the mood for a rough game 😂
I really love these episodes with DJ. The best part of this episode was the one with replacement effects for carddraw for drawing more cards. But the rest of the episode reads more like how to break the social contract rather than how to add great synergies to your deck. So just as a little feedback. It would be nice to see more syneries that don't break the social contract :)
2 alternatives to some entries: no spells: Solemnity+ decree of silence=Infinite auto counter of every opponents spell. No permanents: sun titan+ Oblivion stone= fate counter sun titan go boom with stone swing get stone rinse repeat.
Command Zone: you do cast the first spell that goes into the knowledge pool. You should should make a disclaimer. This synergy works when you lock someone out with a card like curse of exhaustion.
Important note about the knowledge pool teferi lock that many players miss. Knowledge pool says specifically "from your HAND" you can still cast your Commander. Also importantly for decks like Karador, Muldrotha, Kess (there might be others but I can't think of them off of the top of my head) you can cast cards from your graveyard. If you have an answer in your graveyard you have access to it.
I had a mass land destruction happen last weekend. One player was able to search my library (I'm playing a Windgrace deck btw) and played Reshape the Earth for free. He had 15 lands at this point, which was like turn 5. On my turn I cycled Decree of Annihilation, because he forced my hand. However, my wife played Heroic Intervention and it was such a fantastic play. I was able to recover somewhat quicker than most with my lands matters deck. The other two players were not so lucky. My wife on the other hand took the game easily at that point. Nobody could ever catch up. It was so fun. Haha!
So I have an old Revised Nev's Disk I kept from the 90's and put in an EDH deck a couple years ago. I NEVER realized the synergy between it and things like Boros Charm. I'll be trying that out, and enjoying extra salt from my playgroup. Thanks so much.
Great Synergy Suggestion: NOTE this is for any deck with a lot of artifacts AND/OR has a lot of artifact-based ramp: Winter Orb and Clock of Omens. You can break parity with your rocks with the Winter Orb, use your artifacts that don't naturally tap to untap rocks and utility artifacts with the Clock...but when you combine them and tap the Winter Orb on the end step of the player right before you... You're off to the races.
Hey @The Command Zone There is another synergy for the Sylvan Library + Abundance and that is Sylvan Library + Teferi's Ageless Insight. You always draw keep 3 cards and can dig 5 deep every turn AND have card selection so you can decide which one you want rather than the randomness of Abundance. But both are pretty great!
Also, Bloodchief Ascension, Zur's Weirding, and Abundance are all Black Blue and Green permanents - and you know what THAT means... (MULDROTHA INTENSIFIES)
Worth noting: Karn the Great Creator's -2 works really well with the new Boros Commander deck. Exile an artifact for 2 token copies, then -2 and put the original in your hand.
One of my favorite rules for tournament play is that, if you Brainstorm during your upkeep and have Sylvan Library, you are required to call a judge to look at your hand while you do this.
How dare they mention Nev's Disk Indestructible combo and not mention combining it with Mycosynth Lattice to literally blow up everyone else's lands and essentially lock the table out of the game completely.
Point of information: Karn, the Great Creator's -2 ability does work in commander because it can also pull an artifact from out of exile. I actually play it in a colorless deck (without Mycosynth Lattice) , and that detail is often overlooked.
I don’t want to sound rude. I do enjoy josh and jimmy, but having additional views and play styles is always helpful for new ideas. I hope you guys continue to bring others onto the show.
So for the second set of synergies (TeferiPool) you can also use Possibility Storm if you happen to be in red. Additionally, if you have a method of breaking parity on-board, such as a planeswalker, a Rule of Law effect works with both Pool and P. Storm.
Once I had an opponent that locked the tables with an artifact deck using the nev disk trick. All other opponents scooped it up, but I had a stiffle effect when I needed it and still won the game with balthor the defiled. That felt pretty awesome.
I actually played in a Commander game once where one of my opponents cast Armageddon while I had both Smothering Tithe and Anointed Procession on the battlefield doubling my Treasure token output, it was great!
My favorite synergy is one that I heavily use in my Lord Windgrace and Gitrog decks and that is Splendid Reclamation for mass return or Crucible of Lands (and friends) for targeted return of lands that hit the graveyard. I've seen you Josh push this recently with Fetch lands, but there are ways to take this concept even further by playing Squandered Resources and Rain of Filth essentially doubling your mana, Constant Mists to blank everyone's combat step, Overlaid Terrain becomes the most efficient mana doubler. There's a lot of really strong effects you can get out of these synergies that I find most people aren't giving proper consideration to.
funny interaction is when hullbreacher and Narset, Parter of Veils/Spirit of the Labyrinth are on the battlefield is that your opponent just creates one treasure instead of 7 when a Wheel happens
Probably obvious to say, but the Sylvan Library trick works with any draw replacement effect. Personal favorite would have to be Underrealm Lich(4BG), replace draw with "look at top 3 cards, put 1 in hand, put 2 in grave" can also pay 4 life to give it indestructible. Works amazing in anything with grave synergies like Gitrog Monster aswell... also tiny upside for the draw replacement effects, not that it hardly ever comes up, but it does make you immune to mill death since you are no longer able to "draw" when you have no cards remaining XD
42:25 I was hoping this would have led into any of the Weirds from ravnica 54:01 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth with Kormus bell is another to animate all lands, but possible in any deck
Liked Jimmy's Sylvan Library and Alhammarret’s Archive synergy a few episodes back, where you draw 5 and keep 3. Any draw doubler would do the trick :-)
Nice to see DJ as a guest again. Notion Thief, et al. effects can synergize with Teferi's Puzzle Box that when timed right can steal your opponent's draw phase. Zur's Weirding is Muldrotha's bestfriend. Opposition Agent can be a good search option for Wishclaw Talisman.
I play Muldrotha and I have many times done the Sylvan Library trick, but with Underrealm Lich instead of Abundance ─ that's essentially draw 9 per turn. Feels good.
A few days ago "Un actually" also uploaded a video with its production name and it was super long and complex, including the resolution and something about the editing, however these guys use names like CZ383... it's just funny to see the contrast on the different methodologies for file managing
Hey guys, nice video as always. I'd just like to add some value to the "you dont need permanents" synergy because I do play with a kaalia as commander and I put Avacyn in play so I can "create" a win condition with a armageddon or decree of annihilation (by cycling) or obliterate. So this can take out of the game not only permanents but also the main source of mana. I do also have in my deck the new card cosmic intervention, so I can destroy the battlefiel and protect my own game. Nice work of yours from command zone, brazilian lovers of MTG enjoy your canal. Stay safe everybody.
Bloodchief Ascension also synergizes with Mindcrank. And if you hit them for any damage, once Bloodchief is 'online', then so long as you don't choose to have them NOT mill, they will either die from damage, or mill out.
My favorite one sided Armageddon is when I have Goblin Sharpshooter and Living Plane in play together. I have only done it three times, because I do not tutor for spells. When I do, we always shuffle because no one can recover.
On the topic of Teferi + things to force your opponents to cast something else instead, Possibility Storm works with them as well. Also, if you have the Knowledge Pool but no Teferi, there are a number of cards that limit the number of spells people can play per turn, so they cast the first spell but can't cast the second because they can only play one per turn.
I have Zur’s Weirding in my Muldrotha deck! Muldrotha let’s me pull the things my opponents put in my graveyard back out so it doesn’t affect me as much. It’s also a way for me to check my opponents hands for counters before playing my combo out. Love this card!
@ the 33:00 "You don't need permanents" discussion, I'm surprised worldslayer didn't get a mention along side nev disk. Worldslayer is also way more devastating... Remember than lands are permanents too, lol.
Someone should really make a video with only the commercial clips just to get people to re-experience them forever, they are so incredibly hilariously funny
Aye, this be a mean one that my play group tends to forget about. I have also swiped someone's entire board with hellkite tyrant combined with thos combo before nuking the board. Probably one of the coolest moments I have ever had with my Daretti deck.
@@BjornStellar I have Hellkite, Lattice, Darksteel Forge, Disk, Worldbreaker, Vandablast and some more in my Magda Deck. Nothing better than tutoring all that stuff out
Really liked this ep! I thought you guys would have mentioned discard strategies though! Definitely a tough synergy to deal with in archtypes like; Tergrid,Tinybones, or Nicol Bolas the Ravager! Great job as always tho!!
I inherited my friend's Elesh Norn deck when he moved away (nobody to play physical mtg anymore. He had Urborg in his deck with Kormus Bell, which is extra steps for wiping all lands via Elesh Norn in mono white.
You don’t even need indestructible to do a one sided board wipe, just threshold. I had a janky one sided board wipe in my first EDH deck from 2009. Enchanted Evening and Cleansing Meditation. My friend also used the Lattice, Forge, Disk lock. Enchanted Evening makes everything into an enchantment and Cleansing Meditation is a sorcery that destroys all enchantments, but if you have threshold, you return all permanents you controlled that we’re destroyed by Cleansing Meditation.
Considering how much Josh loves Vedalken Orrery I'm surprised there was no mention of it + Seedborn Muse. Both good on their own, and when together you get a build-your-own Prophet of Kruphix!
The Maralen / OP Agent lock doesn't only let you tutor their decks, also stops your opponents from drawing cards. Forever. Once this lock hits the board, your opponents can only stop it with the cards they have in hand right now. And every turn, you get to steal more protection for it. There's a reason it's a pretty powerful lock in competitive stax decks, I run it in my Tayam list.
One of my favourites: Enchanted evening + auratog + aura thief, this is in my tuvasa enchantress. On top of that we also use Enchanted evening + calming verse because being a monster is fun
A good, cheap response to hull breacher is crafty cutpurse. While you don’t have any cards, you take all the tokens from them that they would make that turn. If you can repeatedly blink it every turn, it will continue to steal all the treasures.
"To the listeners" answer: Necroptence and Venser's Journal, in a Karlov deck. Also, military shore leave and lots of money to freely spend on cards, are a good life synergy that can lead players to have more deck test time and the access to that nearly perfect mana base. One more, Blackblade Reforged and Balath the red Goad commander with the white background that makes Balath get 2 +1/+1 counters each turn. All opponents must attack, but not you.
@@ich3730 which is why I personally use it in my Kaalia of the Vast deck, with Sigarda's Aid in there for extra help if I draw it, but there are plenty of ways to cheat out both artifacts and big creatures, hard casting and hard equipping are not the only way to pull off this synergy.
Agreed. A combo doesn't have to be an infinite, instant-win loop to be a combo. "Synergy" is a spectrum, with those sorts of combos residing at the extreme maximum end of it.
YAY DJ IS BACK!!! I missed DJ on command zone. I really enjoy the mixture of Josh and DJ. It's what got me really into command zone, where as before I was kinda so so on it. I wish DJ was back more often.
First off great video, loved the discussion and your guy's back and forth was great. Now I'm not sure it's a "synergy" and not a "combo" but based on the description you gave I'm surprised Jodah/fist of suns and morophon wasn't on the list? It's essentially 1/2 an omniscience in the command zone for tribal themes and that's a pretty cool synergy that won't necessarily win the game on the spot but it's pretty great value.
So happy to see another episode with DJ, I love these twos chemistry! DJs reaction to the Opposition Agent combo is why he is great on Command Zone. Love the passion!!
One that I just discovered recently is isochron scepter and strionic resonator. If you have a deck that wants both, such as a mono blue wizard deck with both ETBs and a lot of instants, you may incidentally run both already. You can copy the imprint ability putting two spells under the scepter. If those two spells are Counterspell and Dramatic Reversal (again two spells you would likely already run) you can cast them both with the scepter repeatable. With at least 2 mana in mana rocks, you can cast both to counter a spell and untap the scepter to do it again. Effectively this locks out any spell you want besides those that are uncounterable. (See Rule 607.3)
My Muldrotha Deck has both Narset and Hullbreacher in there. No wheels though, but they're more in there to punish card draw. The deck in general functions by slowly grinding the opponent down.
there's also "you can't have turns". Cast mindslaver, cast lethal vapors. Gain control of target player's turn. during their turn, have them activate the ability of lethal vapors (skip your next turn: destroy lethal vapors). In response, have that opponent activate the ability another 10,000 times. They never get another turn again.
"The most powerful thing you can do in Magic is just... win the game."
- Jumbo Commander, 2021
What... Is that what your suppose to do :P
His grasp of the obvious is uncanny.
But the coolest thing you can do in MTG is drawing cards.
So, why would you want to win the game, when you can draw cards instead?
"Solemn simalcrum is the most powerful thing you can do in commander" - Sheldon manudo Probably
Can’t wait until Josh saying “I told you so” becomes a meme whenever a lethal card is played by an opponent
Saying "I told you so" does not bring anything remotely positive to a game.
@@deadso yeah everything has to be positive :)))) no criticism, that's evil!!!!!!!
@@oORoOFLOo I am critisism, and yes, that's what people tell me "don't say anything unless it's positive". So now that's what I tell Josh, don't be toxic with "I tOlD YOu sO!"
Just FYI the Sylvan Library work-around works with all draw replacements, another one that can be similarly great is "Underrealm Lich"
I was thinking the same thing
I have this in my muldrotha deck! Hits 2 for 1. Draws 3 and fills my bin
Underealm lich is one of those cards, that you don't realise how good it is until you actually play it. This card has gotten me around and through so much in my Nethroi deck. Getting around Stax, simply not having to pay for a smothering Tithe, etc etc. If you're a graveyard deck, at least give this card a try, it's huge!
I haven’t even started watching this video and I can already tell Sylvan Library + Abundance (or maybe something like it).
Yep, I was thinking the same. That 1 extra Mana gets you great value
I love Command Zone collabs with Jumbo Commander
Agreed. DJ is such a sweetie!
Same! DJ is great 😊
Fo sho
Same! It’s especially sweet when it’s both Jimmy and Josh with DJ-unreal chemistry.
"Synergies aren't quite the same as combos"|
Proceeds to say combo five million times in the episode :P
yeah, i mean they ain´t even talking about synergies imo
all these have been 2-3 card combinations that do something, my understanding of synergies is a whole bunch of cards work in a similair direction and interact with each other, like +1/+1 counter theme, proliferate super friends ect.
Ah yes my favorite CZ hosts, Josh Midoriya and DJ Bakugo...
Ikr! I saw the cover like- “Bakugo?! And Midoriya?! Are these fellow weebs? Or just wanted a cool cover?”
I wish DJ was the 3rd co-host on the command zone
But then we wouldn't have the Jumbo Commander.
I personally would love to see Josh and DJ as a pair for a side podcast or a segment.
@@jamesh3267 They are all rich guys with magic cards lol he filled in for months and did an excellent job
@@jamesh3267 yes Jimmy, Josh, and DJ are all rich people with magic cards.
@@jamesh3267 No I didn't we are literally talking about 3 people lol you were the one who made the mistake.
I'd love to see more of DJ. The chemistry between him and Josh is just incredible.
DJ is great. Jumbo Commander is a great channel.
One might say they have great... SYNERGYYYYYYY
Watch older episodes of the podcast! They hosted it together for a long time
@Pariah I think that was tongue-in-cheek.
Seriously love Cassius' deck- if you kept losing on Game knights to Josh most times you just dream of the day you can Narset- hull breacher- wheel Josh and he saw it coming but no one believed him... lol awesome moment!
Yeah I don’t blame him. Cassius has had some rough games here in the past so it was awesome to see him pop off. And he’s obviously become a better player over the last couple of years too.
@@Matisyahuwu he didnt take the chain of vapor bait- its a trap card bc u think u get value but u actually go down a land... cass didn't take the bait, kept the momentum
@@MT_LeagueGaming7896 the only time the chain of vapor bait is ok, is when you're playing a land deck. Lord Windgrace or the Gitrog Monster
@@fernandostar3507 only if he were using a deck that could have brought lands back like crucible too- but still it was early enough that down 1 land would have put him off his tempo but I see your point-
Man! I love DJs hair!
Man I do love the thumbnail game for this channel. Always makes for a good laugh.
DJ: would you enjoy Professor Liliana?
Me: ... is that a trick question ... ?
Lol
We all know what he really meant! Nice dodge, Josh!
Who else was here earlier enough to see the title as CZ383
Same, thats what it's showing for me as well
XD me it was in me notis xd
Me
Yeah it was
Me
So happy to see DJ back on the show !! I looove his energy and personality, I wish we could see him more often :)
That's something I was telling my wife about DJ while watching his channel. He is always hyped up and excited
Jimmy is great and I really enjoy him but man the energy between Josh and DJ is so good! You can tell they both had a ton of fun throughout this episode and regularly hype each other up throughout. I hope DJ returns more often!
their ideas bounce off each other really well
@@ryanduffy5301 Agreed! Both plot-wise and comedically. They pick up off each other's jokes really quickly.
jimmy sometimes feels like josh's yesman while dj doesn't mind debating and stands by his opinion, even tho, it is sometimes annoying i think he is overall more enjoyable thanks to that.
DJ’s hair is giving me life
It' pronounced "mane".
Josh: “vaccines are great!”
Me: *cries in Latin America*
I feel you
Cries from Brazil here
Meanwhile here in Norway half the elder population is saying no to the vaccines this week bacause it is Easter. :/
Look up birth control testing in puerto rico. Early access isn't always a good thing.
@@stul0031 and then you get hit with the "you can't do shit unless you have your vaccine card bullshit" on top of that.
@52:20 Not to nitpick but Karn's -2 makes you also search from Exile. Which can be nice to gat back that Lattice that got Returned to Dust ;)
Possibility Storm also works for the Teferi lockout. Accidentally stumbled I to that one and felt really bad
If you're playing possibility storm you didn't "accidentally" do anything lmao
"would you enjoy professor Liliana?"
😏😏
I’m surprised there wasn’t mention of Worldslayer. Also, on the level of 1 to Craig, how evil is DJ?
I mean I wanted some inspiration about my group hug deck so I watched his decktec about his group hug deck... It just got out everyones lands from their deck and destroyed all lands... I didnt know how many mass land destruction spells there were until DJ's deck was shown haha. I honestly dont think he is far off Craig when DJ is in the mood for a rough game 😂
I really love these episodes with DJ. The best part of this episode was the one with replacement effects for carddraw for drawing more cards. But the rest of the episode reads more like how to break the social contract rather than how to add great synergies to your deck. So just as a little feedback. It would be nice to see more syneries that don't break the social contract :)
Josh: "Karn's plus one literally doesn't work in commander."
Sydri players: *sleeves up Ugin's Nexus with malicious intent*
2 alternatives to some entries:
no spells: Solemnity+ decree of silence=Infinite auto counter of every opponents spell.
No permanents: sun titan+ Oblivion stone= fate counter sun titan go boom with stone swing get stone rinse repeat.
Kathleen would like to suggest another powerful card design, known as don’t lose
Command Zone: you do cast the first spell that goes into the knowledge pool. You should should make a disclaimer.
This synergy works when you lock someone out with a card like curse of exhaustion.
I've never been here before the actual title!
Same I thought I was seeing things at first
Just got here and I see the proper title :( . Damnit. Hopefully next time!
DJ has the most soothing voice
It's the opposite of Ashlyn. Her voice is terrible.
Karns -2 ability actually works really well with the new Lorehold commander who exiles artifacts from the graveyard to double them up.
Important note about the knowledge pool teferi lock that many players miss. Knowledge pool says specifically "from your HAND" you can still cast your Commander. Also importantly for decks like Karador, Muldrotha, Kess (there might be others but I can't think of them off of the top of my head) you can cast cards from your graveyard. If you have an answer in your graveyard you have access to it.
I had a mass land destruction happen last weekend. One player was able to search my library (I'm playing a Windgrace deck btw) and played Reshape the Earth for free. He had 15 lands at this point, which was like turn 5. On my turn I cycled Decree of Annihilation, because he forced my hand. However, my wife played Heroic Intervention and it was such a fantastic play. I was able to recover somewhat quicker than most with my lands matters deck. The other two players were not so lucky. My wife on the other hand took the game easily at that point. Nobody could ever catch up. It was so fun. Haha!
Only real ones remember the original title
CZ83Z or something lol
@I am a Cat CZ383
I’m gutted CZ383 just had such a ring to it 😂
I'm glad they renamed the Snyder cut of CZ383. It helps differentiate the two.
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That Raycon ad was so good!!!
So I have an old Revised Nev's Disk I kept from the 90's and put in an EDH deck a couple years ago. I NEVER realized the synergy between it and things like Boros Charm. I'll be trying that out, and enjoying extra salt from my playgroup. Thanks so much.
Great Synergy Suggestion: NOTE this is for any deck with a lot of artifacts AND/OR has a lot of artifact-based ramp: Winter Orb and Clock of Omens. You can break parity with your rocks with the Winter Orb, use your artifacts that don't naturally tap to untap rocks and utility artifacts with the Clock...but when you combine them and tap the Winter Orb on the end step of the player right before you... You're off to the races.
24:00
It's an old combo sir, but it checks out.
(insert Imperial officer talking to Vader in ep6)
Hey @The Command Zone
There is another synergy for the Sylvan Library + Abundance and that is Sylvan Library + Teferi's Ageless Insight. You always draw keep 3 cards and can dig 5 deep every turn AND have card selection so you can decide which one you want rather than the randomness of Abundance. But both are pretty great!
DJ!!!! Always a pleasure to see him on a video! He has such awesome chemistry and really fits well with the Command Zone cast.
Also, Bloodchief Ascension, Zur's Weirding, and Abundance are all Black Blue and Green permanents - and you know what THAT means...
(MULDROTHA INTENSIFIES)
Worth noting: Karn the Great Creator's -2 works really well with the new Boros Commander deck. Exile an artifact for 2 token copies, then -2 and put the original in your hand.
YAY DJ IS BACK. Great editing. Good synergy.
One of my favorite rules for tournament play is that, if you Brainstorm during your upkeep and have Sylvan Library, you are required to call a judge to look at your hand while you do this.
How dare they mention Nev's Disk Indestructible combo and not mention combining it with Mycosynth Lattice to literally blow up everyone else's lands and essentially lock the table out of the game completely.
Because that's EEEEEeeeeeevil synergy.
I personally like Teferi's protection in response to my own nukes. It and Armageddon are best friends.
Calm down Satan
@@MtGArtandArtifice So is knowledge pool lock tbf
Enchanted Evening + Calming Verse
Point of information: Karn, the Great Creator's -2 ability does work in commander because it can also pull an artifact from out of exile. I actually play it in a colorless deck (without Mycosynth Lattice) , and that detail is often overlooked.
The Command Zone with DJ gives me the warms and fuzzies.
I'm happy to see DJ back on for another episode!
fun little combo/synergy: ominous seas and greater good
Oooooh. You! I like you!
Great information to help us build some synergy in our decks, thank you.
zurs weirding in a muldrotha deck, its soooo good
I'm glad you guys made this video. I got some real good sleep because of it.
Thank you.
👍👍👍
This episode is definitely my favorite. You guys named off a ton of my favorie synergies.
I don’t want to sound rude. I do enjoy josh and jimmy, but having additional views and play styles is always helpful for new ideas. I hope you guys continue to bring others onto the show.
Maybe a little out of context, but would really love to see Mitch or Mel again. Love your channel btw
So for the second set of synergies (TeferiPool) you can also use Possibility Storm if you happen to be in red. Additionally, if you have a method of breaking parity on-board, such as a planeswalker, a Rule of Law effect works with both Pool and P. Storm.
Once I had an opponent that locked the tables with an artifact deck using the nev disk trick. All other opponents scooped it up, but I had a stiffle effect when I needed it and still won the game with balthor the defiled. That felt pretty awesome.
I actually played in a Commander game once where one of my opponents cast Armageddon while I had both Smothering Tithe and Anointed Procession on the battlefield doubling my Treasure token output, it was great!
36:06 pair Maralen with Orb of L'Chethul. Adding op agent is a bonus. This has happened to my table and no one had any removals lol
My favorite synergy is one that I heavily use in my Lord Windgrace and Gitrog decks and that is Splendid Reclamation for mass return or Crucible of Lands (and friends) for targeted return of lands that hit the graveyard. I've seen you Josh push this recently with Fetch lands, but there are ways to take this concept even further by playing Squandered Resources and Rain of Filth essentially doubling your mana, Constant Mists to blank everyone's combat step, Overlaid Terrain becomes the most efficient mana doubler. There's a lot of really strong effects you can get out of these synergies that I find most people aren't giving proper consideration to.
funny interaction is when hullbreacher and Narset, Parter of Veils/Spirit of the Labyrinth are on the battlefield is that your opponent just creates one treasure instead of 7 when a Wheel happens
Probably obvious to say, but the Sylvan Library trick works with any draw replacement effect. Personal favorite would have to be Underrealm Lich(4BG), replace draw with "look at top 3 cards, put 1 in hand, put 2 in grave" can also pay 4 life to give it indestructible. Works amazing in anything with grave synergies like Gitrog Monster aswell...
also tiny upside for the draw replacement effects, not that it hardly ever comes up, but it does make you immune to mill death since you are no longer able to "draw" when you have no cards remaining XD
That thumbnail got me hyped for the MtG x My Hero Academia crossover!!
WAIT WHAT. Where can you find out about that?
@@hmmmskwc6018 I was kidding lol. It would be cool though
DJ! So great to see him back, love yalls chemistry
42:25 I was hoping this would have led into any of the Weirds from ravnica
54:01 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth with Kormus bell is another to animate all lands, but possible in any deck
Liked Jimmy's Sylvan Library and Alhammarret’s Archive synergy a few episodes back, where you draw 5 and keep 3. Any draw doubler would do the trick :-)
Nice to see DJ as a guest again.
Notion Thief, et al. effects can synergize with Teferi's Puzzle Box that when timed right can steal your opponent's draw phase. Zur's Weirding is Muldrotha's bestfriend. Opposition Agent can be a good search option for Wishclaw Talisman.
ooh, I forgot Necropotence and Bolas Citadel... cast what you can, set aside what you can't.
im so glad to see dj back. very glad we will see more of him. hope this means jimmy has a new acting project, he is a very good actor.
I play Muldrotha and I have many times done the Sylvan Library trick, but with Underrealm Lich instead of Abundance ─ that's essentially draw 9 per turn. Feels good.
DJ is so great! He brings such a great energy
A few days ago "Un actually" also uploaded a video with its production name and it was super long and complex, including the resolution and something about the editing, however these guys use names like CZ383... it's just funny to see the contrast on the different methodologies for file managing
Hey guys, nice video as always. I'd just like to add some value to the "you dont need permanents" synergy because I do play with a kaalia as commander and I put Avacyn in play so I can "create" a win condition with a armageddon or decree of annihilation (by cycling) or obliterate. So this can take out of the game not only permanents but also the main source of mana. I do also have in my deck the new card cosmic intervention, so I can destroy the battlefiel and protect my own game. Nice work of yours from command zone, brazilian lovers of MTG enjoy your canal. Stay safe everybody.
Bloodchief Ascension also synergizes with Mindcrank. And if you hit them for any damage, once Bloodchief is 'online', then so long as you don't choose to have them NOT mill, they will either die from damage, or mill out.
My favorite one sided Armageddon is when I have Goblin Sharpshooter and Living Plane in play together. I have only done it three times, because I do not tutor for spells. When I do, we always shuffle because no one can recover.
On the topic of Teferi + things to force your opponents to cast something else instead, Possibility Storm works with them as well.
Also, if you have the Knowledge Pool but no Teferi, there are a number of cards that limit the number of spells people can play per turn, so they cast the first spell but can't cast the second because they can only play one per turn.
I have Zur’s Weirding in my Muldrotha deck! Muldrotha let’s me pull the things my opponents put in my graveyard back out so it doesn’t affect me as much. It’s also a way for me to check my opponents hands for counters before playing my combo out. Love this card!
DJ’s chuckin paper again! What a delight! Always great to see him on Command Zone. When’s his next appearance on Game Knights??
@ the 33:00 "You don't need permanents" discussion, I'm surprised worldslayer didn't get a mention along side nev disk. Worldslayer is also way more devastating... Remember than lands are permanents too, lol.
Great to see DJ in this episode.
Necropotence + Bola's Citadel to outvalue opponents :)
Plus the storm artifact to gain life I'm having a dumb moment lol I can't remember the name
@@williamcarswell3012 aether reservoir... that is just crazy! XD
@@jimalabi3225 that's the word thank you
Someone should really make a video with only the commercial clips just to get people to re-experience them forever, they are so incredibly hilariously funny
You can also add the animation of Game Knights in that video as well... They do an amazing job!
For the Disk Synergy: Throw in a Mycosynth lattice to prevent the enemy from getting rid of your Indestructible by destroying lands.
Aye, this be a mean one that my play group tends to forget about. I have also swiped someone's entire board with hellkite tyrant combined with thos combo before nuking the board. Probably one of the coolest moments I have ever had with my Daretti deck.
@@BjornStellar I have Hellkite, Lattice, Darksteel Forge, Disk, Worldbreaker, Vandablast and some more in my Magda Deck. Nothing better than tutoring all that stuff out
Really liked this ep! I thought you guys would have mentioned discard strategies though! Definitely a tough synergy to deal with in archtypes like; Tergrid,Tinybones, or Nicol Bolas the Ravager! Great job as always tho!!
Love the show. Always nice to see DJ!
I inherited my friend's Elesh Norn deck when he moved away (nobody to play physical mtg anymore. He had Urborg in his deck with Kormus Bell, which is extra steps for wiping all lands via Elesh Norn in mono white.
You don’t even need indestructible to do a one sided board wipe, just threshold. I had a janky one sided board wipe in my first EDH deck from 2009. Enchanted Evening and Cleansing Meditation. My friend also used the Lattice, Forge, Disk lock.
Enchanted Evening makes everything into an enchantment and Cleansing Meditation is a sorcery that destroys all enchantments, but if you have threshold, you return all permanents you controlled that we’re destroyed by Cleansing Meditation.
Considering how much Josh loves Vedalken Orrery I'm surprised there was no mention of it + Seedborn Muse. Both good on their own, and when together you get a build-your-own Prophet of Kruphix!
I love DJ!!! So happy to see him back :)
The Maralen / OP Agent lock doesn't only let you tutor their decks, also stops your opponents from drawing cards. Forever. Once this lock hits the board, your opponents can only stop it with the cards they have in hand right now. And every turn, you get to steal more protection for it.
There's a reason it's a pretty powerful lock in competitive stax decks, I run it in my Tayam list.
One of my favourites: Enchanted evening + auratog + aura thief, this is in my tuvasa enchantress. On top of that we also use Enchanted evening + calming verse because being a monster is fun
A good, cheap response to hull breacher is crafty cutpurse. While you don’t have any cards, you take all the tokens from them that they would make that turn. If you can repeatedly blink it every turn, it will continue to steal all the treasures.
"To the listeners" answer: Necroptence and Venser's Journal, in a Karlov deck. Also, military shore leave and lots of money to freely spend on cards, are a good life synergy that can lead players to have more deck test time and the access to that nearly perfect mana base. One more, Blackblade Reforged and Balath the red Goad commander with the white background that makes Balath get 2 +1/+1 counters each turn. All opponents must attack, but not you.
Great to see Dj back at in The Command Zone again!
Almost everyone conceded at hullbreacher/narset +wheel
But wait... Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Worldslayer = One-sided Boardwiping + One-sided Armageddoning
Thats 18 mana in total, for 18 mana you can win 3 games of edh at once
@@ich3730 which is why I personally use it in my Kaalia of the Vast deck, with Sigarda's Aid in there for extra help if I draw it, but there are plenty of ways to cheat out both artifacts and big creatures, hard casting and hard equipping are not the only way to pull off this synergy.
The title for this should of been most powerful non infinite combos.
Agreed. A combo doesn't have to be an infinite, instant-win loop to be a combo. "Synergy" is a spectrum, with those sorts of combos residing at the extreme maximum end of it.
YAY DJ IS BACK!!! I missed DJ on command zone. I really enjoy the mixture of Josh and DJ. It's what got me really into command zone, where as before I was kinda so so on it.
I wish DJ was back more often.
First off great video, loved the discussion and your guy's back and forth was great. Now I'm not sure it's a "synergy" and not a "combo" but based on the description you gave I'm surprised Jodah/fist of suns and morophon wasn't on the list? It's essentially 1/2 an omniscience in the command zone for tribal themes and that's a pretty cool synergy that won't necessarily win the game on the spot but it's pretty great value.
So happy to see another episode with DJ, I love these twos chemistry! DJs reaction to the Opposition Agent combo is why he is great on Command Zone. Love the passion!!
One that I just discovered recently is isochron scepter and strionic resonator. If you have a deck that wants both, such as a mono blue wizard deck with both ETBs and a lot of instants, you may incidentally run both already. You can copy the imprint ability putting two spells under the scepter. If those two spells are Counterspell and Dramatic Reversal (again two spells you would likely already run) you can cast them both with the scepter repeatable. With at least 2 mana in mana rocks, you can cast both to counter a spell and untap the scepter to do it again. Effectively this locks out any spell you want besides those that are uncounterable. (See Rule 607.3)
My Muldrotha Deck has both Narset and Hullbreacher in there. No wheels though, but they're more in there to punish card draw.
The deck in general functions by slowly grinding the opponent down.
there's also "you can't have turns". Cast mindslaver, cast lethal vapors. Gain control of target player's turn. during their turn, have them activate the ability of lethal vapors (skip your next turn: destroy lethal vapors). In response, have that opponent activate the ability another 10,000 times. They never get another turn again.