RTX 2080 Ti GPU for Resolve - Waste of Money?
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2018
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Thumbnail Generation: the RTX2080Ti is 25% faster at generating thumbnails (edit tab) on a complex timeline compared to the 1080Ti.
Dropped Frames: the RTX2080Ti dropped 77% less frames than the 1080Ti. (Red, BM DNG, BM raw, XAVCS, GoPro, ProRes - with complex grades)
Render Times: the RTX2080Ti is 5% faster at rendering (Red, BM DNG, BM raw, XAVCS, GoPro, ProRes - with complex grades)
Scrubbing the Timeline: The RTX2080Ti scrubbed the BM raw and BM DNG 'a bit better' than the 1080Ti. (Didn't notice any difference with the RED, GoPRo, XAVCS and ProRes footage)
Stabilization: the RTX2080Ti is 25% faster at stabilizing footage.
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Thanks for sharing Dave! I don't know many editors using Resolve (that I sub to on UA-cam) so it's always nice to see your tests!
Thanks so much! I got nearly same specs as you do, like i9 7960x. I got 1080ti as well. Im not using Resolve though, but still, it will give me no more in Vegas, than in your results. Love you Dave and miss you. Was nice seeing you in Shadows and Lights in 2017 i think 🤔
Great video! I've got two GTX 1070s on Resolve and I work with 1080p Prores from my URSA Mini most of the time. Render speed to UA-cam and Bluray ready is 170fps after grading on average. That's a massive leap compared to Premiere.
awesome coverage in comparison with the 1080ti i love when softwares uses the video card for every render and coloring purposes, that's why i love Davinci is my favorite i quit premiere long time ago cause of the ability do to a lots of stuff with Resolve URAAAAAAAAA
Dave good video sir. It’s good to see better performance with a newer GPU.
Apparently NVLink won't double your VRAM with RTX cards. According to Pugen systems, it works just like SLI bridge, meaning that only one card's ram will be used. The way I understand it is that doubling gpu ram only works with proffessional grade cards such as Titan and Quaddro. It could be that Nvidia is purposly locking this down to not cannibalise their pro cards.
Nice coverage. Right decision for the price tag...wait. 👍
Great channel. Thanks for the video.
Great information! I'm on a 1070ti and mostly doing 1080p timelines so I will also be waiting.
I'm doing 4k 60 videos on a strix 970 and an fx 8350 lol
What about Quadro cards? I've seen a test where a Quadro 4000 trounced all over GTX and RTX cards. Call BH and have them send over a 4000 and an 8000
My god. That color science. I absolutely love Blackmagic. Thank you for the video Dave! :)
There's no such thing as color science, but opinions exists everywhere.
Is it a simple process to use h.264 video sources on davinci free version?
And about editing 4k on a 1080p timeline, does this effect the end product quality? I have no experience editing 4k yet
Nvlink or Sli does not double memory. The link makes both cards run in tandem. Thus both cards are doing the same work and alternating output to improve performance.
sli doesn't share VRAM, NVlink does
Finally a review of 2080tu and resolve! Thank you for posting. Did you test with multiple GPUs? 1080ti and 2080ti (obviously not in sli)
I did not.
I have a very basic question. Is quadro better than gtx/rtx for video editing? Will I miss not having a quadro?
It would be very useful to compare the two cards performance in 2021, as Nvidia announced RTX Studio laptops.
Which LG monitor is that? You said In one of your videos that you sent the curved monitor back... Was it this monitor?
Whats the Physical difference between a CPU or GPU in a desk top or Laptop?
Is ther any Performance difference?
Ray tracing cores and Tensor cors are separate. The tensor cores are made to accelerate machine learning applications (www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=titan-rtx-linux&num=2) There's a giant leap in performance over a 1080 Ti when using the tensor cores (not so much when not in use).
I was told point-blank at NAB that Resolve does not support NVLink. It will snap back and forth between the two cards erratically and may actually create instability, especially in timeline load management. I edit pretty heavy footage daily myself and would love to have a solution for VRAM that doesn't require the jump into quad but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Please, someone, inform me that I am incorrect. Id really love to be wrong here! :)
i have EVGA 2070 super xc ultra , it has bad frame drops in Battlefield 1 every 30 seconds or so ,
searching google i see a lot of others with the same problem ,
did you have this issue , do you know how to fix it
will you do a BMPC 4k camera review? thanks!
Yes, but my review sample is taking forever to get here.
The playback test, what was the timeline resolution? And the raw was at which quality? Half res good?
Thanks
4k timeline. Raw decode quality was set to "Fill Res."
I agree. Wait. I like your strategy of editing in 1080.
Tensor Cores can ONLY accelerate Deep Learning computation. Not sure how this can accelerate video processing
There are many potential use cases that have already been demonstrated by Nvidia. They could be used for creating interpolated slow-motion, they could be used for noise reduction, and they could be used for tracking. How good will the implementation be in actual software? IDK
Dave by any chance you have a Mac and comparing?
Sorry I don't own any Macs anymore.
According to Pugetsystems the RTX 2070 gives 1080 Ti performance plus tensor cores. That's probably the best price to performance GPU which is also future proof.
There are two comparisons I would be very interested in seeing, and I suspect many other people would as well. The first is the new Quick Sync feature in Resolve Studio 15.2. This allows for considerably faster export times for normal Core-series Intel CPUs. It would be great to see how these compare to a pure workstation CPU like yours.
The other test would be a comparison with a regular 5K iMac (non-Pro). From Max Yuryev's testing, one can see that Macs offer considerably faster export times in Resolve than Windows PCs with higher specs. It would be great to see how the overall editing experience of a 2017 5K iMac compares to your workstation PC.
Now it seems the best performance might be Radeon VII with 16Gbs VRAM!
I agree with the 2070 performance being the same, however what about that 11GB of VRAM you get in the 1080 TI? Won't that be beneficial when rendering heavily colored / NR sequences?
Thanks a lot Dave, your studies are always the best. Worth noting that 1.5y latter the nVidia 2080Ti hasn't budged one dollar ... still $1,200.
I know, I have been waiting patiently for a new card to come out so that one will drop in price.
Man this is actually weird, i have the same exact build but with only one m.2 card and a dual 2080gpu. Do you overclock with this build or do you think it’s good as is?
I do OC to 4.2. Crazy that we have the same one.
Man you would be saving my life if you could help me with the settings, i talked to puget and they basically said with this setup i won’t need to OC it.... i just want to get the best out of my system! Haha please man if you would!
@@MountUpMedia I am not sure if that would be helpful since every chip is different, for instance I OC'ed two of the cores to 4.6 and the rest at 4.2, I am guessing your cores would be different.
3080 Ti is coming so we will get 0.006% more performance for 2600 Dollar! LEL :)
3080 dollars more like :P
@@NewLondonMarshall kinda :)
it's out, 3070 is a bit more powerfu than 2080Ti with less than half the Price (499 vs 1200)
Hello Dave !
RTX consummer cards doens't support NVlink, only quadro supports it.
RTX 2080Ti has only SLI through NVlink connector
Resolve has a drop frame indicator. The currently played back FPS number is displayed over the playback window. If the dot is green you're ok but if it's red you are dropping frames. It won't count how many times you dropped frames though.
Good catch, I should have worded that differently.
In my experience, the frame rate indicator is not very accurate.
@@OneCharmingQuark In my experience it is 100% accurate. It displays the timeline framerate so if you have 25 fps timeline, the max will be 25 fps. If you can't play back at 25 fps the green dot will change to red and it will display the cuttently played back fps number. While rendering it is the same.
@@gellert.ficzere I've had it show green while dropping frames. I've also seen the fps counter briefly show frame rates higher than that of the actual footage. This is on an older PC that can struggle with demanding footage.
@@OneCharmingQuark Hmm that may be the issue. Never experienced that.
for nvlink you need to use two of the same gpu's. you cant use one 1080ti and one 2080ti.
You need to dump your old Intel. Grab AMD Threadripper for smooth 4K. And stay with 1080ti. Oh btw from what I know combined RAM works only on Quadro cards (crippled by driver for the consumer gaming cards.)
I have ryzen and 2080 and before with radeon 56 I can see the frames faster when I was render now I cannot see that nad I think my render is slow.
I have Ryzen 1700 and Radeon Rx vega. i just sell the gpu because of sudden crash in many video editing program and bad performance. did you see better results?
normally when evga see a issue from there community they fix the product
I’m running Resolve and I’m also building a PC at the moment. Should I get a RTX 2070 or RTX 2080?
Problem is, the 1080ti is now the same price as the 2080ti... New at least.
Puget systems review showed that davinci resolve doesn’t support nvlink
Multiple GPUs are supported, but not nvlink.
nvlink or SLI isn't typically required for multiple GPU support outside gaming (a bridge can be something you want to avoid if you're working with your computer). Many applications recommend you don't install one (3D rendering especially). I have no experience using one in Resolve, although I do use Resolve with multiple GPUs.
I think the Tensor cores and ray tracing cores are physically different.
Oh, I thought they were the same. Sorry.
Yeah, different cores.Tensor may help with things like upscale, "invent" details to improve quality.
RT cores are more for 3D software.
Wouldn't a Nvidia Quadro do better for editing purposes ?
Quadro is much slower than RTX
@@TheEjuiceReviews there is geforce rtx and there is quadro rtx so the difference is quite negligible
I've found my 2080 to be a tad smoother than 1080ti, too, but the lower VRAM definitely hurts in some scenarios. I'd sell my soul for a Quadro P6000 with 24GB of VRAM or one of the beefy VRAM-full RTX Quadros....
Sell your soul? LOLS. Just save up!
Glad that you haven't sold it already, my friend...I wasn't 100% sure...
Are you comparing the 2080 or the 2080TI to the 1080TI? I too am a bit worried about the 8GB of the 2080 vs 11GB of the 1080TI. My timelines will be 1080p, but my media will be 4k 60p and 5.9k 24fps. I will be using quite a bit of TNR and OFX...Do you think the 2080 will be better than the 1080TI, or the 11GB of the 1080TI will be more helpful?
Amd is better for raw file.
what CPU in the tower?
I list all the components in the video you can just pause it when it appears.
Then you need to ask yourself how smoother is a 1080Ti compared to a 350$ 1070 :p?
Is the 1080Ti worth the few %?
Come on, be reasonable, let's grade with a 1050.
The 2080Ti is as expenssive as it is more powerful than the Ti.
The price isn't right but it's not fair to say the 1080Ti is a good deal.
It was one year ago at 750$; not now, the 2070 is a much better deal.
Obviously there's no urge to change graphics between two generations :)
I have a 1070 and its a bit chunky when I edit GH5 60fps 4k 8bit footage without generating optimized media.... so 1080ti would be really helpful which I was considering before buying 1070... :(
But if you're grading with a 1050 Ti or even a regular 1050, it it workable? Or even pleasant? I am looking to get a new laptop, and if I don't need to get a full-blown, fire-breathing gaming machine with a 1060, I won't. Then again, if I could afford it, I'd just get a Macbook Pro, but I can't.
Right now, anything would be an improvement over what I'm using now: a Skylake i5 with barely enough memory to boot up with and the Intel GPU. Just starting Resolve takes at least 15 minutes, and I don't dare load anything higher than 720p into it...
I wonder how long it'll be before Blackmagic takes advantage of the Turing architecture.
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Hi~can rtx2080ti output 10bit 4k in dacinci editing ?
caleb HSU yes if you install studio drivers from nvidia.
@@TassosPhotographyStudio thanks~
@@calebhsu3875 i've missed the last part. I did a test yesterday and the viewer in davinci is 8 bit. Other apps (photoshop etc) work in 10 bit. Your only option for DR is to get a Blackmagic pci card to output to a reference monitor.
Nvidia is going too fast on hardware development. F*cking software companies having hard time to catch up with them. It is ironic but true.