😱🔥 Simon Jordan takes Graeme Souness to task over his comments about Roberto De Zerbi at Brighton
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- Will Roberto De Zerbi be a success at Brighton? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Graeme Souness discuss!
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Souness - “Any foreign manager coming here will not know our game”
FACT - No English manager has ever won the Premier League
Please keep your facts to your self good sir!
Souness quite rightly understands that Scotland is part of Britain. 99.9% of Scots, Welsh, Irish will watch the Premier League - FACT.
@@mikkelborchsenius1156 Too late for that sir!
@@TMAS01 And yet no "English" manager have won it. Slipping in Sir Alex is just weak.
Souness also won more trophies as a manager than all Englishmen combined over the last forty years, I believe
It's nice coming back to this 8 months later. The man qualified us to Europe for the first time in our history. He's utterly brillaint. Thank you Roberto
This is truly beautiful, Simon is just too good😂😂😂Souness is use to saying things with conviction and getting away with it, not this time Graham.
exactly. This is not sky where they dont challenge him.
He should of took him to task about the signing of Ali dia
But Souness stated facts, which Jordan tried to make Souness seem like a hypocrite. But Souness said he didn’t know anything about Turkish football, and then couldn’t work with an ego centric chairman (just like Jordan, 10 managers in 10 years or something) at Southampton and got offered a job in Italy, where he had played. Soon as Souness pushed back, Jordan became petty and accused Souness of making it about himself....you know you’ve won when the red herring answers come back to you 😊. Good double act these two
Nah Souness could have easily shut the conversation down by stating that he won around a dozen major trophies when he was a manager across several countries
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot he won a load in Scotland but so did neil lennon so that's hardly a barometer to determine a managers level given Lennon's shite....martin o'neil won a load to but he was a mid table prem manager .....souness isnt shite but he's at best average
I love Jim just throwing the grenade and just sitting back, laughing.
Absolute wind-up chaos merchant 😂😂😂
Nobody stirs the sh#@e quiet like Jim that's for sure!!
He's a knob
He really does!
I actually used to hate him but I understand him now, proper stirrer😂 still not my favourite but I can tolerate him at least
He spoils this show by talking over others all the time.
"I'm Googling You Cause I Wanted To See The Strength Of Your Argument." 😂😂😂😂
Never Change Simon Jordan.
Never Change.
De Zerbi is now on his 7th job and every move he’s made has been a step up because he’s clearly a good manager, he not getting sacked and taking anything he can get. Serie D to the champions league in 6 years
And that's the context that Souness at the very least, should have paid attention to.
If a guy starts at the bottom then gets poached by clubs from higher up the chain, it shows not only is he good but he does actually have longevity because he is only leaving to challenge himself more and more.
If his record was job to job in and around the same leagues like plenty of ex Premier League managers, then Souness would have a valid point.
The guys CV says he is no more of a risk than any other manager, in fact, I'd say, how CV makes him more attractive because the same failed managers keep getting job after job despite being failures.
@@Sidneyyoungblood75 Indeed. And Souness also seems to conveniently ignore the fact that RDZ left his last job because A BLOODY WAR BROKE OUT!! Did Souness leave Torino because Italy got invaded by France ? I must've missed that.
They usually start at the bottom in Italy
@@Sidneyyoungblood75 Soooo, next Summer if RDZ goes to another club then Souness will still be wrong? I dont get it, has the world become that dumb that we get triggered and upset at the truth?
The only clanger Souness dropped was the way he stated RDZ is a risk but even that was an obvious truth anyway. Every player, manager, coach and owner is a risk, that's just life.
LMAO Simon Jordan is a trip 😂. I've always liked him, especially when he was at palace. His rants were classics but my friends couldn't understand why I liked him. Such a funny intelligent man.
Love Simon , while he respects Souness he won't shy away from giving him some truth bombs.
Simon is strong in the challenge.
True but there is no truth in what he is saying here. Sourness won a league cup with Blackburn which in that era is no mean feat. He won things at most of the clubs he went to, and achieved 3 league titles as well. So there isn't much meat on the bones to what Simon is harping on about here on this occasion.
That's why he is the best radio 'sports pundit' because he questions anybody irregardless of who that person is
I love Simon, please never leave Talksport, I love listening to him every day with Jim stirring the pot lol
The fact is De Zerbi did a fantastic job at Sassuolo and took the chance to manage a champions league team and only left that jib because of a war he had no control over he will be a fantastic addition to the premier league just some media and pundits don’t think football exists outside of England so everyone who comes over is usless
Funniest thing is that no English manager has ever won the premier league.
it's odd i learned more about the guy from you than the people that were supposed to be informing us. They spent more time doubting and thrusting dooming on him instead of informing everyone
and there was interest in him from some big clubs, I don't think brighton had too much choices to go for a manager and De Zerbi is probably biggest name they could have brought...
the old guards will defame him because he hasnt win anything 😔
The alpha move by Zerbi would be to sign Pogba.
It bloody wouldn't.
Souness would spontaneously combust
Brighton don’t coach hairstylists
more of a troll move than an alpha one lol.
Pogba's a bum
Watching Simon immediately go to the phone after Souness says, “7 jobs in 9 years” 😂
I read this just as it happened, great spot.
Trust Simon to pick the extreme to win an argument.
Souness managed for 20 years and that small 5 year period was a blip in the middle of his 20 year management career.
De Zarbi does look like a good manager but his entire Managemet career to date is as Souness said, 1 season, another season elsewhere and so on. If he turns out good hopefully he stays for longer at Brighton.
@@jacksonbow2766 De Zerbi has mostly left jobs to take up a better opportunity. Who doesn't do that in all walks of life not just football management? Souness was handed jobs at big clubs because he was a decent player unlike De Zerbi who has had to build up his reputation. Obviously he isn't going to stay at tiny clubs for 5 years if he actually wants to achieve anything.
@@Unknown-ol2uh De Zerbis 3rd job was in Serie A with Palermo I believe, then he went down to Benevento (not sure I spelt that right), then sideways to Sassualo (again not sure I spelt that right)
Not sure why it is relevant though.
The key part is whether Brighton fans are happy knowing that in 6 months, maybe 12 months he will be gone. Basically, are they happy being a stepping stone, if so then it doesn't matter what you and me think unless you are a Brighton fan lol.
As for achieving anything, he also won't be acheiving anything by staying only a season at clubs, no one can 'build' anything in just 1 or 2 seasons, let alone be credited for having an impact.
I see people saying he left Shaktar because of the war with Russia, yet the Ukrainian league has been back up and running for a number of weeks now, playing in Poland I believe and De Zarbi has been out of work the whole time.
I just wouldn't want him or anyone like him near my club, how can anyone feel settled with someone like that in charge. Just my opinion and my opinion doesn't count because I am not a Brighton fan. Only there's count.
@@Unknown-ol2uh May I ask seperate from my other response... How many clubs did you support growing up before you settled on your favourite? Or have you changed clubs as an adult also?
Jim's face when Simon is twisting up the guest always gets me lol like a proud father
This is so funny to watch Souness not able to admit he’s wrong
anybody with the aggression in their voice like Souness says will never admit they are wrong
Like either Simon Jordan or Jim White are known for admitting when THEY are wrong!!!
Is he wrong though? We dont know yet.
@@happyapple4269 Agreed mate. Liverpool are 9th at the moment, and it's not inconceivable to think the work Potter put in would survive temporarily regardless of who his successor was (at least for a few games). I actually think Souness handled himself better out of the two. We'll only really know for sure in a few months.
@@happyapple4269 and that's assuming a draw against this Liverpool side can even be considered an impressive result.
Souness back pedals soooooo quickly.
As a Brighton fan, I hope RDZ is very successful. Will he? Alas only time will tell.
The KEY element is that RDZ wants players to play the same way that Potter was training and playing. So for the team, it is just minor adjustments rather than wholesale change.
He made sassuolo finish back to back 8th place finishes which if you watch serie A that's extremely impressive. His style of play and intelligence in the transfer market makes him Graham Potter 2.0. Potter shouldn't have left Brighton till the summer in my opinion though.
I love how Simon doesn't let anybody get away with anything and actually has the balls to say it.
Except eddie hearn simon got decimated vs Hearn
@@User594gs57 no he didn’t bro you must be a Hearn fan to say that.
@@Mozzywinters no im not I just speak facts Jordan was drowning
Great radio team with Simon as the only articulated brain in sport and its a joy to listen him
Jim: "That's what happens when you take a job on the strength of you like pasta."
Savage!
I am **so** glad this is on UA-cam, not just radio, because the subtle glances and looks, while others are talking, are priceless at times
“Is this a long story?” … that really made me laugh 😂😂😂
Legendary response from Simon Jordan 😂😂😂.
Damn he's savage 😂😂😂😂😂
Simone
@@ironlionzion5745 lol
Hahaha Jim winking at Simon to get it started lol 😂
Brilliant stuff 😂
Yeah Jim’s sleekit he likes to use simon for backup he’s pathetic!!!
@@paulpurves484
Pathetic 😂It's his job. Its not setting a mate on, it's knowing how to work people with opposing opinions for a radio show
@@CDMaccles sorry I disagree and i think simon and Jim have got previous for this kind of behaviour they’ve piled on Trevor and Martin in the past ,without simon Jim is nothing on talksport and I’ve noticed he always needs to get him on board to help him win an argument , im actually surprised they’ve not been pulled up about this in the current climate of anti bullying!!!!
@@paulpurves484 Jim knows that Simon has a passionate opinion about everything, and knows that him ranting at someone with an opposing view makes for better listening.
It's just talk radio, it's not bullying, imo
@@CDMaccles fair enough I just wish it was a bit more of a balanced argument that’s all
Brighton have one of most competent back room teams in the country. Im pretty sure they know what they’re doing in comparison to Souness who apart from his time at Rangers where he was bankrolled, failed or was indifferent at every club he managed.
Really enjoying the addition of souness on Mondays. Great banter and dynamic.
This one was hilarious... Simon couldn't wait with that response... 😂
Graeme Souness has that old purist outlook on football,"he doesn't know our game".😀😀
It’s called being a dinosaur
Even Pep & Klopp had a period of adaptation. It’s learnable but no one arrives with that knowledge.
England haven't won anything since 66. The last Brits to win the Premier League were SAF and Dalglish. SAF is an all time great and his teams and coaching stuff were continental heavy. Every other Premier League manager to win the EPL has been non-English/Brit.
@@goncaloamaral7846 thats no different to a new English manager taking a prem job for the first time is it? It doesn’t make you instantly more knowledgeable on the English game just because your English. Most other countries watch our league as well.
@@james505ism being English you don’t have to learn the culture. Moving to a new country is more challenging yet very learnable. Watching something on tv is not the same as being there.
Good on Simon. Souness does my head in
Love to see Souness getting bantered 🤣
Brilliant
Sourness speachless and mumbling
The difference is De Zerbi started from the very bottom. Is difficult to stay long in lower divisions.
Palermo, benevento then sassuolo. Thats moving up. He was coach at shahktar when ukraine invaded and they were first. Seems pretty qualified to me. He wasnt picking apples yesterday?
Jim is like that annoying sibling who snitches on you and watches as you get a grilling 😂😂
Spot on. A real drama queen is Jim.
"20 minutes in Torino..." 🤣🤣🤣
Simon holds the mirror up to his colleagues god love him.
There hasn’t been an as good partnership that Simon and Jim are since Cole & Yorke and salt & pepper. Absolutely brilliant stuff!
Rush and Dalglish cos Souness played with them
Every graeme comment is “they don’t know our game” whether it’s a player or manager
Simon calling out souness’ managerial career is hilarious
I mean he's not wrong but by that token he can't talk about any owners of football clubs if you're not allowed to comment on something based on your own experiences
Except, as far as I'm aware, Souness won more trophies as a manager than all Englishmen combined over the last forty years. He wasn't great but it is complete myth to claim that he was a dud
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot he was a dud mate awful manager
@@sf7862 The facts and statistics don't correlate with your feelings. He won more trophies than all Englishmen combined over the last forty years, as far as I am aware. By no means great but not the urban myth awful manager the internet is desperate for him to be
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot fair enough. My opinion is he was awful .
Hearing a Palace man sticking up for my club is strange but I do like it!!
Simon is a realist not a simpleton
What happens in Torino, stays in Torino 😂😂😂. I could watch Simon grill him all day
I just had to come back to this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Graeme 'I go back to it' Souness 🤣🤣🤣
Graeme
Jim knows his job. Creating a debate even when there isn’t really one there! 😂😂
Used to hate Simon Jordan, now i’ve grown to love his two footed tackles
Greame red faced and squirming is priceless 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Best part was when JIM looked STRAIGHT in the camera and said 'YOULL NEED TO BE RIGHT ON THIS' With his grin. HAHAHAHAHAHA
don’t ever attack SJ without your facts 100% right and your sure he is wrong 😂 Love listening to Simon and his confidence.
A broken clock is right twice a day
@@CorridorJ 🤣👍🏼 fantastic phrase - i haven’t seen this expression for many years. 👏🏼
Normally always agree with Simon but he literally brought up Souness career and then when graeme tried to defend it, he says to stop talking about himself! Wtf
watching this again after the FA Cup semifinal... Souness really said it is common sense to dismiss De Zerbi so early... you could not have been wrong
Souness is used to just speaking without being challenged.
When Souness says:
“He doesn’t know our game”
What that actually means is:
‘I don’t know anything else apart from the English game and think everyone else is as ignorant as I am”
didn't he play in italy and scotland.
then manage in italy.scotalnd, turkey and portugal.
quite a mixture!
Italians are really disappointed with these embarrassing and unfair statements by Souness. I remember perfectly when he came to Italy, he was paid handsomely, no one insulted him or took the liberty of questioning him. Why is Souness now doing the phenomenon and treating De Zerbi like this? Luckily De Zerbi symbolically slapped him, showing that he is an excellent coach. Were Souness a decent person, a gentleman, he would apologize for these foolish, biased, spiteful statements against a foreign professional. It's not the foreigners' fault that English managers are bad, and have never won a Premier League.
LOVE the way Jim just sits there with a smirk on his face dropping little bombs into the conversation and just lets the boys go at it😂😂😂
Brilliant from Simon, Jim and Graeme 😂 loving Mondays
Jim’s a sensationalist knob, sorry 🤣
Think he needs to apologise to de zerbi now they’ve qualified for the Europa league
SIMON JORDAN ALWAYS KEEPS IT REAL
This aged amazingly well 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The guy keeps getting offered bigger and better jobs because of how well he’s doing. Would Souness turn down those opportunities if he was in that situation?
can you see JIM White winking at Jordan to stalk up the fires. at 3.58
Simon standing up against Souness when others just nod there head and mindlessness agree ⚽️👏🏼
Jim loving it at 4:40 😂😂😂
'hes new to our game' so were the best managers in the league at one point
Exactly, Pep at some point was new, Klopp, Jose, Wenger etc
When you go with Simon never go back 😂😂😂😂❤️👍 Simon is different level
Well the premiership is full of foreign managers that didn’t know our game
Thank you Simon we needed this 😂😂
Thats legendary Simon😭👊👊
Souness getting pegged down , priceless.
Coming back to this after Brighton finish 6th 😂😂😂
How many trophies have Italian managers have won over the last 30 years, and how many English managers have done the same?
Jordan 1000 times smarter than Souness...who always look up for a fight.....De Zerbi deserved more respect.....he has worked his way up...Souness worked his way down.
“Doesnt know our game” this line here is complete tosh, best manager in the league atm and the best manger in history of the Prem never played or managed in England before they came here. Just doesnt wash man
Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Klopp, Pep, Conte etc. All never managed in England before making a name for themselves here.
Couldn’t agree more. That doesn’t know our game line is so ignorant😒. How anyone takes him seriously as a pundit is beyond me. He’s been on here a couple months and his takes/opinions never age well😏.
As Souness ever considered the other 19 Managers in the Premier League, don't know the newcomers game either
@@user-io8cm4dk1f You think Fergie didn't know the English game when he joined Utd? Souness is (obviously) referring to British men in the English league when he makes this point.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot ok, but Ferguson wasn’t in the English league before joining United. He’d also never managed in England before joining.
given Graeme's reputation on the pitch, I think he remained pretty calm here! Great watch
Love the banter of Simon vs Souness
Sounnes is back on the buckfast 🍷
I don’t really have anything against Souness, but he always looks foolish when having to defend his points
No one presses Souness like Simon😂😂
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber. Destroying people with clear and consistent logic on a regular basis
Facts 🔥
@@williampotato1221 The Top Potato is back again. William Potato = Top LAD Proper Clobber
I would have cried 🤣 if Simon had said "you know the English game Graeme, you signed Ali Dia at Southampton".
Souness was one who said Pep was a risk because he didn't know PL.
Simon gives it to everyone straight. I don’t always agree with him but that is an admirable quality.
Not know the game? Do they play with different ball or field in england.
Thank you Simon
Graeme did so well at Southampton, he signed the greatest player in their history, The one the only Ali Dia
Legendary manager 🤣
All managers sign complete duds. Souness did win around a dozen trophies as manager though. Not great but certainly not the dud the internet wants him to be
The main facts and evidence to draw on are that De Zerbi did a really good job at Sassuolo for 3-4 years, moved on to Shakhtar for Champions League football and ended up a in a war torn country. So he moved over to the Premier League. Would Souness have stayed on in Ukraine in the middle of a warzone with all of the Brazilian players he'd inherited now gone, just to prove his longevity as a manager?
Poor Roberto, he doesn't DeZerbit
Love Simon Jordan 😂
"Any foreign manager will not know our game"
Guardiola, Wenger, mourinho, klopp, tuchel, benitez, conte?? In fact pretty much anyone other than Redknapp & Ferguson in fairly recent times (last 20 years) to win anything, was foreign!!!
Love to see Simon serve some one up - Brilliant this. Souness is really cheesing me off lately.....
I sort of get where Souness is coming from, the new guy hasn't really had to drastically change things, they seem to have a good set up there and have pretty much carried on from last season, when they go through a sticky patch like every team does barring city of course,that's when we'll see what he's all about, potters influence is still strong within that side
I do agree with Graham however Simon also has a very good point
Simon = Top Lad Proper Clobber
Mind your heart Graham! Keep up the good work.
Great manager, great job with sassulo
Simon straight talking guy. Well done
“I’m googling you” 🤣😂
It’s funny how Brighton are currently above liverpool with a game in hand. This statement from souness didn’t age well
God Jordan has souness on toast 😂😂 brilliant to watch
LOL good on Simon well played
Simon brings accountability 👍
I am a Blackburb fan, and Souness was a really good manager for my club. He and Mark Hughes are both very much missed.
I was driving up the m1 like… “oooo my 👀”
Well done Simon 👏👏 finally someone stands up to sourness