After 5-6k hours on OSRS something about rs3 seems really appealing. But I logged in once and saw so many menus and buttons and toggles that I became overwhelmed and left
@@coincollectorchase the only other game thats interface has utterly overwhelmed me was FFXIV. Iv played both now after editing them, but my god, the base menus are atrocious
@@coincollectorchase I mean i got there in the end, but it is quite bloated, and a lot to throw at a person all at once. its something that i think would benefit from being tuned down on opening the game, and just let the person edit/add more stuff as they grow more competent.
@Captain Hands A simple question? Just your average douche that can’t handle someone with a different opinion. Before you respond with “all I asked was a simple question”, go get yourself some help and maybe one day you’ll understand why no one fucks with you 💀
That's how I am going to be. I just want to accomplish my goals of getting 99 in every skill first in osrs. Then I am really jumping hardcore into RS3.
As an rs3 player, something i like about osrs is the simplicity of it, it dont take long time to figure out the user interface, u dont got drakes, bikinis, treasure hunter and particles wherever you go. Sure it may not have all the quality of life updates but thats also a part of it that makes it nostalgic and a version of the game many of us in rs3 fell in love with when we first started playing in 2007 or 2008 ish. That said i prefer to follow the main game but im really glad osrs exists.
osrs was fun in 2005 because thats where videogames where in 2005. its not fun anymore because a i played during that time an b i remeber the combat system hitting the wall, where max pvp fighting was the only way to fight because u were just out there one hiting each other with the korasi spec. so u had to always have mage prayer on but then ppl would just one shot cannon u. im glad in rs3 its impossible to one tic hit ur opponet. i also got tired of being frozen by someone and that just being that no way for me to escape or anything just
@@jaydenosrs5957 Not really, the "main game" is the one of personal preference. It's whichever game you play more. It doesn't matter which one is more popular. I'm not even an rs3 player, but I know plenty of "OG" players that I played with in classic, to RS2, and now that only play RS3.
I was almost maxed on OSRS and switched to RS3. OSRS just feels like a job and grind all the time. RS3 is way more versatile and you don't feel burned out.
@@ovs4744 Gower brothers made the curve intentionally that absurd ( formula for the function => f(x)= (x-1+300 x 2 x (x-1/7) / 4 with X being the level starting from 2). First when they programmed it they thought nobody would reach 99. It is a grind cause it is supposed to be a grind.
@@Berreie1616 In rs3 I could kill rockcrabs all day long and be on that same grind. Or if I get burnt out I can go get real xp. Why would I waste my time on rockcrabs tho? In rs3 we don' t go for 99's anymore we go for 120's. I don't have the time to train on rockcrabs all day like I did in school skipping school to grind for 99. We get skill capes for getting 99x10 in a skill. We get rewarded halfway thru capping the xp in the skill vs just 5% of the way.
I hate how little you see on RS3 vs OSRS. You can't zoom out as much as you can on OSRS. It's one of the only things that angers me in RS3. But luckily you can expand the map to make it easier to move.
your point of run energy i actually feel the opposite about, RS3 has made agility an obsolete skill, oldschool actually makes the skill still feel like an actual impactful skill
At low levels run energy is a limited resources on RS3. But you go spend ~8 hours to get ~50 agility and suddenly you don't have to worry about it any more. It's like unlocking a permanent upgrade for your account. (Unless you're an avid clue hunter, in which case you will need to go get a really high arch level and unlock the unlimited run relic) That does mean high-level agility is only good for shortcuts, but let's be honest, agility is a retarded skill for an MMO and would never exist in a modern game.
Adam Fawcett bro it’s not even that limited at low levels. The ridiculous recharge rate of energy combined with the loadstone system means a low level would have to try pretty hard to even have to think about resting
@@Khaliljt amazing at 99 agility i still have to use rest its almost as if training agility means something still thats not even to mention all the REQUIRED agility shortcuts there are to unlock lest you wanna for example run all AROUND the fossil island to get to where you need to go instead of using the "agility course" short cuts
nightshadow the skolftaur I can’t speak for for higher levels I just came from f2p account and just completed all the quests there and so far I’ve never had to rest. Also a lot of the shortcuts have been removed. At least a lot of the ones that are there in old school
This sounds exactly like the arguments made for and against WoW and WoW Classic. Two different kinds of difficulty, one is time investment and the other is mechanics and people just choose whichever they enjoy playing more, who cares.
people just like to create war between two things despite of them being basically the same. this is why aliens see us as petty. we have the urge to create wars even in smallest of things.
As an Old School player, I've never had an issue with RS3. The quality of life, easier xp, complex combat stystem, minigames, and even the mtx, none of them have ever bothered me. I played RS3 for many years after Old School was released. The thing that ultimately drove me away from the game wasn't the game itself, it was the player base. And i'm not talking about toxicity, I'm talking about how every other player that I ever saw was maxed out. I never did any of the minigames, bosses, or any of those types of things that made xp faster in the game and I still enjoyed playing it. But after having put all of that grind and time into my skills, to see half of the other players with all 120's or 99...it just made my effort seem pointless. I didn't switch to Old School right away, I just took a break from RS3 for a while until I saw that OSRS mobile had come out, so I decided to try it. Then I discovered ironman mode...then ultimate ironman mode...and now I'm addicted to it. At the end of the day, RS3 just wasn't the type of game that I enjoyed playing anymore. Is that a bad thing? No ,of course not, because my opinion isn't the only one that matters. Hell, when I try to get friends into Runescape, I actually tell them to play RS3 because it's more noob friendly. Then, if they didn't like it, maybe give Old School a shot.
I quit RS3 for good a few years ago and thought I was fully committed to osrs but as I'm getting close to maxing and end game content I'm realizing that the pvm in old school leaves a lot to be desired. It's about prayer flicking and gear switching, which is fine, but it's not great compard to vorago or araxxor or solo nex, and I know RS3 has even more complex and challenging bosses than that now. For anyone who hasn't done late game pvm in RS3 and is used to old school bosses there really is no comparison.
Everything in old-school botscape leaves a lot to be desired in including and especially the combat. There's a reason the player base voted for the combat to be changed which led to EoC.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 I dont think that was voted on, was it? Pretty sure most people were against the idea from the start, and I heard EoC was so bad at launch that even current RS3 players cringe from the 2012 version. I believe EoC had a beta phase and feedback was encouraged, but it was far from polls like OSRS has
@@RiseRegen Nope there was definitely a player poll. Even OSRS was polled, Jagex said if 75% of players vote for OSRS they'll implement it as they found a back up of 07 RS. Here's the thing, only 69% of players voted for OSRS and they implemented it anyway. Not remembering something doesn't mean it didn't happen
Sometimes I wish I could get into RS3. My old account has a lot of hours and achievements that I'm proud of, but I just don't like the combat system or the art style.
@@Martlns I have played in legacy mode before, and while it still keeps the newer art style that I don't like, I did appreciate that Jagex added the option 👍
One of the main issues that I've seen OSRS players having with RS3 is the interface as it seems overwhelming. There is an option for Legacy Interface which essentially gives you the OSRS interface. With regards to the RS3 customisable interface, it does seem overwhelming at first, however if you spend 5 mins looking into it, it genuinely does improve quality of life so much. Being able to have your backpack, as well as your prayers, as well as your worn equipment tabs open all at the same time just saves loads of hassle when PVMing and questing for example. One of the things mentioned in the video which I think should have been emphasised even further is presets. I cannot imagine playing this game without presets now, especially for bosses like Nex where you need to have two different setups, one for getting to the boss lobby and then one for fighting Nex. In a game with so many different skills and combat setups that require so many different inventories, the amount of time saved being able to load a preset rather than having to click on each item in the bank individually is ridiculous. My last point is abilities. I see loads of people complaining about there being too many abilities which will take too long to learn, however you won't really need to know the exact use of each ability until you start bossing, and you will have plenty of time to learn the use of all the abilities while training your combat stats to get to the levels that you need in order to do the bosses. Just hovering over the abilities tells you what they do and it's pretty simple to gauge whether the ability will be useful or not. For early game, just set your combat style to revolution so your abilities auto-queue and from there you will see what each ability does and can learn it passively.
I play osrs, dont care about how many interface buttons or screens there are, we are not overwhelmed, EOC just is complete garbage if I wanted to play anything with abilities etc id play WoW lol
@@motrolleur7368 You say 'we' as if your opinions are representative of every osrs player. There are countless comments on videos and forums of people saying 'I logged onto RS3 and the interface put me off'.
I started playing at the end of 2003, early 2004. The nostalgia factor is the biggest reason a lot of people I know prefer osrs. Your list of reasons is super valid, which is probably why I find myself playing RS3 significantly more than old school recently. I do think that getting 2 spins each day is overpowered. I saved up a bunch of proteans and bxp and was getting 3M+ xp/hour in hunter during the most recent dxp event. I remember way back, when you cooked food you had to click on each individual piece of food, then click on the range/fire to cook it. There have definitely been a lot of QoL changes throughout the years, and I'm a firm believer that they're not all bad ;)
I disagree with the nostalgia factor. Some of us stick to rs3 because of nostalgia since the characters have been with us for long with all the childhood memories. Playing osrs is like starting a totally new game in ESO, Black desert or other mmos
After maxing in OSRS i created a new account to play RS3 on. It's really like he said in the vid, it's still a grind, but not that heavy compared to osrs's grind. And personally I'm a fan of that after playing 5K+ hrs on OSRS, the games don't have to be a copy of each other. PvM seems really interesting tho on RS3 so i'm excited to give that a proper shot
hello, i am fairly new to rs3 but in OSRS the complexity of the combat comes not from the boss mechanics but how you abuse the tick system to kill stuff faster. For example people can kill graardor in OSRS and get many many more kills per trip by standing in a certain spot that aligns the attacks from the other mobs and then prayer flicking perfectly to take almost zero damage. Though more recently with newer bosses they are basically trying to copy RS3 bosses. Nex: AoD is in Oldschool as a boss called "the nightmare". Same fight basically. Also the difficulty curve comes with how quickly and precisely you can click because you can't keybind prayers or anything. This was actually something I loved about RS3. Being able to keybind prayers is like such a major change from old school it's insane. You wouldn't think it would be so big but it literally changes the entire experience.
For me personally when the complexity of combat comes from how well you can abuse the tick system and how effectively you can click precisely and fast, it just becomes so unfun to me. Like sure you can master it but you're having to master precise clicking to gain the slightest advantage, but because of how the combat system works being so balanced that slight advantage is essential otherwise you're gonna lose every PvP fight. On top of that RS3 has elements of that, just look at Maikeru's 0 second Graardor kill. There's the same abusing of the tick system there's just other factors that make combat more interesting without that. And then being able to do that stuff puts you in the very very upper echelons of skill.
I have played a large amount of osrs nearly maxing my combat skills and quests but i recently stepped away from osrs to try rs3 and I'm absolutely loving the graphics, music and quests it just feels so much better and I think ill be playing rs3 mainly while going back to osrs once and awhile
Same, the more i play rs3 the more I realize its the same game, just a completely different way of doing everything. Once I figured the interface, and keybinds etc. it became much more simpler to play RS3
@@WokeEggo I see it looks like modern tibia vs old tibia :D But to be honest...i play OSRS and I like it, but it's not easy tho. Maybe i didnt play enough time...hope i will not be disappointed as i am on albion
I played OSRS for a little bit but after the nostalgia of playing it when I was 9/10 wore off it just seemed so boring and slow. I like how interactive rs3 is with abilities.
I love RS3. I played OSRS for years, all the whole wondering what the “actual game” was like. I remembered watching A Friend videos on rs3 creatures and being very intrigued. Safe to say when i finally tried rs3 i was hooked. if it wasn’t for my friends literally hating rs3 for no reason (they refuse to even try) i wouldn’t touch OSRS but it’s what they play
Right? All they can say is it's like wow, what are all these abilities blah blah blah... And yet they never tried playing it at all, then proceeded to complain about easyscape / mtx etc I'm like easyscape or QoL? And you don't have to buy mtx or even use them, it doesn't effect you or other people 😂 I'm not trying to tell them to play rs3 but I would like them to give it a good go before talking shit without proof or facts I just want to play with more of my friends and do fun stuff, but nah osrs bruh 😥 Such a divided world and Aldo a fact, they simply don't want to learn PS. I play both osrs and rs3 actively 17 years on going
@@swavaynator1119 I played RS3 for years. The combat really is bad. PVP is nonexistent and ability bar encourages braindeadedness with revolution mode. Skilling is better in RS3 and it has all the best quests like While Guthix Sleeps and Chosen Commander. MTX is everywhere you look that it's exhausting.
@@JohnFromAccounting guess braindeadness pray switching and moving side to side is soo much better than full Manuel. Lmao. Maybe actually try the game. Lol
Critiques of boss content: at 1200 total level you would not have any experience with bossing. Check out videos or actually experience them yourself. Dodging attacks, timing attacks, planning inventory and gear, timing special attacks, movement during fights, freezing adds, boss special attacks, learning boss attack patterns, controlling Your hp to mini s damage from certain group targeting abilities, etc. There are tons of mechanics in late game content that you don’t really experience without getting there. 85 combat 1200 total isn’t really mid game.
I agree with you but I don't think the point is that OSRS doesn't have cool PVM content. Just compared to RS3, it has less of it and of lesser quality simply because RS3s combat system allows for devs to implement a lot more diverse mechanics. Although with updates like the nightmare in OSRS I can definitely see it catching up more.
@@AlmalekeLoL Its different mechanics, man. RS3 can have different mechanics, simply due to differing skills and stuff. I wouldn't say "lesser," but "different."
On rs3 there are actually quite a big number of pure f2p players as well if you want to go down that route, Maikeru made an f2p series showcasing the early levels
Everybody complaining about the overwhelming interface in RS3. I've spent thousands of hours in RS3. Take it from me, get past the overwhelming part, learn how it works and it will. Rock. Your. World.
Played OG scape for a long time as a kid to a teen. Enjoyed it, had friends who played, was a good time but didn't know what I was doing. Eoc came out, 90% of the people I knew, including myself, quit. Tried osrs when it came out. Couldn't stand it. It was so slow, so tedious, everything took so long, nothing felt like an accomplishment. I was never invested because I was always staring at my run energy being at zero. Skills took ages to level up and rarely gave rewarding stuff. People advised to do Waterfall Quest. To skip the grind? Then what else does the game have? How are you making your own adventure if you're following a certain way to play? Quit osrs, then three days ago figured "Why not see how Runescape is doing?". Installed it, did the starting tasks in Burthorpe, did a couple of starting quests. It feels like it's caught up to every other MMO as far as quality of life goes. At least for the most part. Mining was a joy. Random double ore, random insta ores, access to a lot of mine spots a stone's throw away from a bank and forge. Didn't even need a bank because the bronze box let's you fill it with copper and tin ore up to a stack of 100. Then I find out as you level up the bronze box gets more capacity. A little too late because by that point I was looking at iron stuff, but still nice. Daily challenges, achievements, way more intractable npc's and quests. The game does have a lot of stuff in it, to the point the actual game world can seem stuffy. You can't take 15 steps without running into another intractable, but I'll take that over running long distances for the sake of running. The interface is just standard MMO fare, I can't really see what's wrong with it. The amount of direction in Osrs is way more of a confusing turn off for me. People say "Do the quests". OK, but why would I not just do them in Runescape where there are more quests with more variety, voice acting, humour, rewards? They released group iron-man in osrs last year, or the year before? People made new accounts to experience it. What? All the time you spent playing the game, you're just gonna reset and do it again? I can't get behind that mentality, I'd feel bad for spending so much time on doing the same stuff.
I prefer rs3. 1 it's the original game. Osrs is a reboot rs3 is the product of many many updates. 2. It's more diverse. There's so much more to do than osrs. 3. There's more quests to do and more areas to explore. 4. It's alot more friendly for us who have families and work alot. I remember the old days of grinding smithing for hours for 1 level. 5. I've always gotten better loot from rs3 than I ever did on osrs. Rng seems more forgiving. 6. The fact you can customize ur interface and the tabs is major. I remember that update and I was sitting in tzhaar and started getting alot more kph when the update dropped.
I personally love the grind and simplicity with nostalgia that osrs brings to me nonstop. with rs3 theres just too much to actually learn which is a real hassle. which abilities to use, when to use and how. all the insane amounts and complexity of boss mechanics. with college all year round and my part time job learning all that just conflicts with me. while i'll agree osrs is slower xp rates than rs3. after 2yrs of osrs i'm closer to maxing than the 12yrs of my acc on rs3. I love both games. just prefer osrs
@Ethan Steel okay then play Ironman. Also the game doesn't end once you max. There's so many achievements that you can go for and so many other things you can do. Don't blindly hate on rs3 lol.
I love RS3. If you actually take the time to adapt to it and try to learn everything such as the combat system, the many skilling ways and methods, different activities and the user interface you‘ll really love it over time by getting used to it together with all the QoL. I‘d advise to use the runescape official wiki along your time playing RS3, I’ve used it too and it helped me big time whilst exploring everything.
Couple of things. As others have mentioned, tool leprechaun and stamina pots. But moreover, the reason grinding in osrs is so nice, is exemplified perfectly by agility or construction. At level 1 agility, your run takes ages to regenerate and you feel like you can only run for a few seconds before it's out. Leveling up agility GREATLY improves this. It gives an incentive to grind, cause the reward is so huge. Same with construction, it's essentially like leveling up the "QoL" in the game cause you get access to stat restores, teleports, spellbook swapping and so on. You mentioned that you could not imagine grinding a boring skill to 99 just for the 99, and that is the main difference between us; you grind for the 99, we grind for everything it unlocks.
hard agree. I also just found it super insulting that he implied osrs doesn't have boss mechanics especially considering he doesn't have the stats to do any of them.
Loadstones is one of the worst updates ever. Getting your magic up to get around was a reward in itself. Loadstones made teleports obsolete, it made the teleports in your house obsolete, it makes the teleports you get from quests, diaries,... obsolete. Same thing with run energy btw. The fact you can restore your run energy without any trouble makes potions that restore it obsolete, in OSRS you can get full graceful, potions, you can restore your run energy in your house. In OSRS you have to make an effort to earn small benefits and all of it is rewarding. You'll have many of these benefits mid game and it makes the path towards the end game that more fulfilling. RS3 is just trying to reach endgame ASAP.
That's why you'll be playing other games in a year or so but I'll still be playing OSRS for the rest of my life getting that 99. It's not a race, it's a journey.
i personally cant see the point of playing osrs i played back then i remeber watching the combat hit a wall, then they added the extra 0 couple more years passed and all the wiggle room that the extra digit gave combat was already used up, so it was time for the eoc, and anyone who dosent think so, must not remeber how pvp was literallying bs one tick everything boom dead no skill just a flip of a coin when specing
Can’t really even compare them. Osrs is in its own genre of MMOs, while rs3 is more of a traditional mmo of today. It’s just a preference, trying to compare them to decide which game is better, is a pathetic attempt at creating controversy.
Finally a smart comment. Yes rs3 is trying to be like other mmos but the others mmos their trying to copy are better so just go play those. However osrs is basically now its own style or brand of mmo now. I can't think of any game like it on the market that exist inless its a game older then osrs itself but even those were subpar. OSRS is unique and i tell you what compared to all the copy paste stuff that i see getting made unique to me is great. Comparing both the games are stupid however one is donig better than the other but is that really a bad thing?
I switch between both a lot, but pretty much the only reason I go back to RS3 is to see my clanmates. In OSRS, the fact that it takes longer to level means that you feel as if you're progressing for more of the time you play. This is important to me, since I felt a lot of my drive to play disappear once I 99ed combat related skills in RS3. Then there's the fact that RS3 is built on top of so much dead content, like minigames, much of which is still alive and well in OSRS. Now, I was already established when they came out in OSRS, but it definitely feels like it's easier fund a bond in OSRS than it is in RS3 and that's as someone who never learned Zulrah and still hasn't done Dragon Slayer 2.
@@seterseter9352 yes, because a game that makes getting from point A to point B slightly less miserable is obviously a game made for babies. Do you elitist clowns even hear how you sound sometimes? "Gahhh! Its not REAL runescape unless you're grinding miserably for hours on end." "Everyone knows the REAL runescape is actually meant to be torture walking to the bank because a game that makes running to your objective slightly easier is for BABIES!" You sound like you're 12 dude lmao.
in my eyes, the main problem I have, isnt the amount of exp, that's fair, my problem stems, with the best XP methods ending at about 70 of each skill in osrs, whereas in rs3 the scaling slowly goes up ... till 99, it feels concise. example: best hunter xp is in the arc, with perfect juju potions and a lot of other things to do, but you only unlock it at level 96. being stuck doing the same method from 70 to 99 is the problem I have identified in osrs. And what I like about rs3. Notably, there are many things I enjoy a lot in osrs anyways, and Im still working on my account there, recently reaching 2k total on my ironman, for instance I like that they added a bunch of new courses(agi) in osrs, whereas in rs3 its just the same things that existed since priff.
I can't do RS3 simply for the microtransactions. It's not the practice of microtransactions in RS3 that I find egregious, it's their pervasiveness in game developers these days. I don't support microtransactions across gaming and RS3 is one of those games with microtransactions.
Not really true. i've played RS since 2004 and wow since 2006 i believe. Stopped playing wow seriously at cataclysm, but never really stopped Runescape. Wow is way too repetitive tbh. You only have questing, raiding or pvp at max level. That's it. Especially the last few expansions, it's always the same damn thing. You spend weeks grinding high level gear? Well screw you when the next expansion hits, it's a full reset and you can start all over again. Fuck that! Reputation your grinded means nothing, gear is basically throw away. I really hate that aspect. RS3 has so much more to offer and your progress is never lost unlike that from wow. Skilling is a joke in wow compared to Runescape (either game). Also, RS has so many more playmodes. Ironman, lvl 3 skiller (not even remotely possible in WoW) At times i restart playing wow but quit after a couple of months. I'm always drawn back to the complexity and variaty that RS has to offer.
J DB there’s also mythic plus and pvp. For the casuals there’s still mog runs and mount farming. There’s not than enough to do in the end game, just people don’t like trying to push content imo
@@Mikkelzu my point is, it's always circling back to raiding. Whether it's solo or not. You don't have that aspect in Runescape and i find that quite appealing.
The only thing I like about osrs is that it feels more comfortable to me. I have tried getting into RS3 a few times, and each time I log in I feel bombed by popups, the last time I tried to play last year I had 4 popups I had to get through, daily stuff, and them wanting me to buy keys and a whole bunch of other stuff. I find that osrs has so much stuff that even after playing almost 30 days of game time now, so around 1000 hours I still don't know all the content in the game, and rs3 has even more skills, cosmetic stuff, etc that it's just overwhelming for me to learn it all unless I only played rs3 for a job. I think both games have disadvantages and advantages and it's cool that we have two versions of the game that different people can enjoy.
I expected a nuanced analysis, all I got was a half assed excuse. Both games have their merits and should be treated as entirely separate games. Play whatever makes you happy.
I respect your opinion but many of the points you've made are simply not true, and I suspect this is because you never really took the time to play old school. Run energy isnt an issue with higher agility, graceful outfit. Slayer is so complex, you have choice to do normal monsters, boss tasks, wilderness slayer with risk of pk encounters, but you can counter pk. You haven't even touched raiding, and all the mechanics that involves, skilling bosses. The beauty of old school is you have content that is relevant at almost all levels whereas in rs3 most good content is locked at endgame, rs3 players are always complaining for new stuff to do. You haven't even touched on the empty feel of rs3 mid and low level zones, the stupid overrides, people running around looking like fairies you cant even see the armor. Leveling is so easy, you dont feel like it's an accomplishment. No one respects u unless u have complitionist Cape. In osrs you can have so many types of accounts that are all fulfilling because content is relevant.
slayer in rs3 is the same as osrs. osrs end game is a joke with runelite and other clients that make that game so easy anybody can play it. rs3 mid to low level zones are just as empty as everywhere else because the game is so big with so much content everyone is spread out doing a million different things. leveling is easy in osrs as well theres thousands of videos showing just that. "no one respects you unless you have completionist cape" thats just a lie. .....??????
@@TheArmin The staminas i have right now i use for end game content such as theatre of blood. This is because run is actually a resource u have to think about and use wisely in osrs. You can have all the gear, all the damage but forget a simple stamina pot and plank to verzik. Thats engaging to me, because it makes u plan ahead. Thats just good game design, you cant expect ur character to be sprinting around a game with all that armor and weight on. THINK ABOUT IT. but when i do normal activities without my armor weighing me down, i dont use a single dose of stamina.
@@TriHard7 if the game is so big and so full of content why is it full of high level players complaining about nothing to do? leveling is not easy on osrs, in fact its brutal. There are no double xp weekends, beach shenanigans, all that protean bullshit, guild bonuses, weeklies, dailies. You get none of that, you plan ahead and spend ur money and time wisely, thats why when u get that 99 its actually something. You get a 99 on rs3 you just go meh. You know its true. im not even going to touch that complitionist comment, if u truly believe that then youre really out of touch
@svenm sandity To each their own right? honestly, i have nothing against someone preffering rs3, i was just commenting on the fact that this video was a bit one sided. thats all
dont u remeber back in the day when combat hit a wall and pvp was just straight up one hitting ppl with korasi or cannon. and combat was completly maxed to with nex being the last bosss they could ever make because anything harder would be impossible with the current system. with all them memories i cant see the point of playing osrs which no matter how many incrimimental or very nuisance updates where a item is literally good for one monster, and now there going through the game and nerfing everytrhing so that they can but somthing else where that item was. osrs is already looking at its combat death and since non of u will allow them to do anyting really good to fix it theres gonna be alot of nerfed items coming in ur future
@@soulsreaper7145 In RS3 almost everything is devalued filled with mtx and cosmetics so I don't see playing a game that has no sense of achievement. Power creep exists in all MMOs, infllation exists in all MMOs especially RS3. So OSRS is dying while RS3 is dying too and has little reason to play even now. I choose OSRS.
"in runescape 3 each slayer mob has its own unique mechanics, for some you might need use a certain weapon or combat style" same could be said for osrs...
When it comes to the difference imo ... rs3 has micro transactions and osrs has gold farmers. There go get the best quality of life a home teleport gets you
@@thedanni4545 hey let’s play an MMO with a free market!!!! Oh even better let’s spend thousands of hours not being able to trade ! WOW Iron men ruined osrs.
@@SosaiOyama I mean isn't that the whole point of ironmen? completing the game with out "help" from other people? dont see how that ruins the game experience? and your complaint includes MTX - i mean just dont or again play ironman then you wont get it, just giving you a sulution to your problem :)
@@thedanni4545 no iron men culture is the problem. They don’t deserve updates or anything geared towards them. They should not be taken into mind because if you want to zuck yourself by PLAYING AN MMO FREE MARKET GAME then you should stay a zuck. and Lbs people don’t don’t respect your account. You’ll be called crazy and forgotten. Have fun pking or any group activity. What’s a split.... hey lemme swig a Stam o wait.... Tbh this became an iron man rant. No one cares that you zucked yourself lol.
Honestly this is a good point. PvM is undoubtedly better in RS3 than OSRS so if you're going to be playing RS and want to pursue Bosses, RS3 is the "right" choice, but the nature of Runescape in general means larger budget AAA MMORPGs offer a significantly better experience if that's what you're after. I feel like there has to be a really weird mix of nostalgia and desire for challenging content to want to dedicate that time to RS3 instead of something like WoW or FFXIV. (I say this as someone currently working on my RS3 Account, btw)
I enjoy old school runescape for almost all the points you made against it. I really like the grind. I think the pvp is fine as is. I like the old school mobile app much more than the mobile app for rs3. I have gotten 50 mil mining xp on osrs making a lot of gp. Getting those 99's on osrs feel all the more rewarding after I have gotten them, because I know it took a lot of effort to get it. I think osrs is for people who like delaying the gratification more. I play both rs3 and osrs. If you were to say some of the points you made to hard core osrs players you would get roasted for all the EZ scape points you talked about. I just love that I can just relax watch youtube/netflix while I train on osrs the most.
The majority of OSRS players aren’t completionists and won’t ever be. It’s a bad attitude or metric from which to think about the game. I really don’t see the appeal of spending hours upon hours purely arbitrarily. That grinding makes the end result more satisfying is an argument that could be made for halving the XP gain rate in OSRS, which would be boring as fuck.
The most common reason I see people disliking OSRS is because of the ‘grinds’ as you mentioned, and there’s a reason most of it’s player base are much older than the average new age MMO. We grew up with games being grindy, plowing a lot of hours into something to get achievements. Nowadays, most people want things fast, and at their fingertips - not just for gaming, for most things in life. Games like RS3 appeal so much more to new players because they don’t appreciate what it was like originally before all this technology and everything being available with very little patience or effort. That’s not a negative comment to make on those who choose to play RS3, just an observation. Either way, we’re all having fun so who really cares.
You're 100% right. I dont see the point of having everything dumbed down, easier, not much effort, everybody gets rewarded to the max all the time etc, it just devalues a lot of content youd otherwise work to complete.
@Dakota Terry it might cost $30,000 to buy a max character, but it costs $30 to halve the cost of 96 herb, along with getting a ton of gp and other exp. I'd say that's pay to win.
1. The high xp rates and ubiquitous lamps devalue skills. It is nothing big of an achievement to get max cape in rs3 whereas it is a very high achievement in osrs. 2.Predatory Mtx in rs3 cheapens the game a whole lot, giving it a greedy money-squeezing mobile game vibe. You are always reminded of the mtx, every day you are told to buy more with real money. You cannot even disable the "warm reminder" from popping up ever again. Updates are centered around more lamps promotion, whereas in osrs almost every update is real solid content or improvement. 3. Cosmetic overrides removes the dilemma decision of either looking fashionable and good but sacrificing armor stats or having good stats but no fashionshape. It is one important charm in RuneScape. If you are feeling fancy you do need to sacrifice stats, but in rs3 you can just override everything with whatever you like. No more hard decision or sacrifice. 4. Pets and cosmetics look nauseating. Perhaps you don't need me to remind you of how obnoxious the drake pets are in annoying players with their big flapping wings that so many on reddit ask to remove it or at least let us hide other players'. Certain cosmetics also no longer have the RuneScape charm style, but instead looks very unnatural and out of place. 5. Manual eoc required for efficient high end bossing. Some players do not really want to keep pressing keys for every basic ability for an entire bossing hour just to get high enough dps. It is extremely annoying and exhaustive to have to press keys for things like that nonstop. Using revo will almost always make you much slower and while you can still get the kill, you are expelled from the elitist pvm community. 6. Very importantly, RS3 feels like a job to me. Players have so many dailies and repeatables to do that just finishing them to get the maximum gain already takes over an hour. There has a feeling of compulsion to do these, it's overall just a chore. I am left with very little time to actually freely do things not on the daily routine, to hang out randomly and chill without having to worry about efficiency scape. This chore intensive nature of the game makes it much less attractive than OSRS. I feel like going for a job on rs3 but on osrs I really feel like I'm playing a game and relaxing. However, I have to say that rs3 does have really good content in terms of quests and boss mechanics. I really enjoy the complex ability combos in combat and the deeper boss mechanics design. And many of the quests are of very high quality that I feel like being in a real adventure. Osrs relies too much on the tick system and mouse clicking implementation, which isn't ideal for someone who wants to focus on having complex mechanics of bosses. I think it'd be a waste if rs3 does die out considering it really isn't doing too well in attractive player count and all the good bossing and quest content will be forgotten by people.
About the 5 point, I agreed 100%, they should change revolution to become more efficient and smooth. Without revolution I would had quitted rs3 for osrs without any doubt.
@@AnonymousAnonposter I don't know what they can do about it though. It is natural that players who input more effort (repeatedly pressing keys in this case) should be rewarded more than those who spent less effort. But one suggestion to enhance the combat complexity is to release more abilities of various level entries, with more special effects like higher damage when used right after something, tankier bonus in some combination, etc. And lengthen the ability bar. Also perhaps let us connect two ability bars so the rotation flows through the two bars to give more ability usage variety. In hopes that clever planning of revolution bar can mitigate the punishment from not pressing keys repeatedly.
Sam 1. Neither is relay that high of an accomplishment but a measure of time investment one just take a bit longer. 2. Don’t spend money. 3. Who cares about looking good when you need performance? I one who is serious will ever take anything but the best in that situation. Everyone ends up looking the same and that’s ducking boring. Let people make cool looking outfits and dominations of useless level 30 armor. 4. True fuck drakes. 5. Less effort = less efficiency. If that wasn’t the case the integrity of the game would be lost, especially for Ironmen. 6. It’s a game. If you don’t have fun doing something then don’t do it. Dailies aren’t required they just help you progress faster. Just so the ones you like doing and duck the rest. If you think OSRS combat relies to much on the tick system you haven’t looked into 4ticking bosses in RS3 which is the only way to duo or trio some bosses.
You look like a player focused on efficiency. The sort of player I left osrs for. I feel like people don't know how to enjoy game anymore I could have maxxed on rs3 like 12 maybe even 18 months ago and I didn't because instead of training stuff like RC or FM I decided to boss here and there, do some clues, kill some revs for log, do some questing and didn't really trained any of the skills I haven't finished. I could do every daily and do some vendor reselling everyday but that's not fun so why would I bother it's a game I should have fun with it.
bossing in old school gets pretty in depth once you get later in the game and even though i agree the game is not at deep as rs3 it uses the mechanics it does have in a very interesting way, in the outside it doesnt seem like much but once you get into it you realize its pretty hard and like no other game right now. Also its ok to like rs3 cuz its easier I mean playing oldschool is kinda like a challenge but its honestly not that bad and once you get 99 it actually feels like an achievement.
osrs isnt really a challenge its a grind i mean it isnt hard to slash sandcrabs or do nightmare zone for months. bossing is 100% harder in rs3 and its not even close . leveling in rs3 isnt hard or grindy tho. and mtx in rs3 is kinda lame
This was actually a pretty good video. I'm an OSRS player myself, been playing since November 2020 and have no intention to play RS3 but I can see where you're coming from. The grind in OSRS truly is real and it can drag on quite a lot, so it's completely understandable that some people just prefer a more fast paced leveling system. I've been grinding my Magic XP for about 5 months and am Lvl89 now, it's probably gonna take me another 6 or 7 months to get to 99 but honestly that's fine with me. Watching my XP grow slowly but surely is part of the journey for me and I've honestly been having the time of my life with OSRS. While I personally disagree with a lot of your reasons to play RS3 over OSRS, I'm glad this video exists because I always hear nothing but bad things about RS3 so it's nice to hear that people are able to like the game or even just give it the benefit of the doubt. Good luck to you on all your adventures, my friend.
@@johnfisher8401 still dosent mean its not distracted and i get distracted very easily and even when i gonna stabilize my life productivity and organizing to normal level and money i probably gonna find a lot better things to do any way runescape or any mmo will ever do with one or 2 h max a day...
I had been debating which version of Runescape to play for... actual years at this point. I finally said "eh fuck it" and tried out Runescape 3. At first I was pretty mixed on it. I didn't really like the treasure hunter thing, I didn't really like the new combat system, but I liked everything else about it. Then I found out two things: Legacy Mode and that you can just... completely ignore Treasure Hunter keys. It's a very small pop up when you first log in and I'm fairly sure there's some way to disable the pop up. Legacy Mode meanwhile turns combat back to OSRS style and that's what I'm looking for with *this* MMO. I go to Runescape to vibe and relax, not worry about the most optimal abilities to have in my toolbar. I also like that if I wanted to go back to regular combat I can with just a click of a button, so it's not like it's a permanent decision. Edit: did some experimenting and you can also just use the treasure hunter keys for Oddments, which can be used on cosmetic items and pets, so that's what I'll be using those on from now on.
Your video has inspired me to at least try RS3. I played RS back in the day in 08. Left after dungeoneering became a thing. Recently picked up again 1 year ago as an Ironman in osrs. It’s been cool but definitely very grindy but that’s part of the fun. Sometimes it’s TOO much though. I’m considering Ironman on RS3. We’ll see how it goes.
Id like to write a few paragraphs on this in hopes that you'll read all of it and take it into consideration. I am a 15 year veteran of RS so my roots are in osrs no doubt. Osrs will always be a special game to me. That being saif, don't believe the elitists man. Rs3 is a wonderful game that is still runescape in so many ways and in many ways, it's the better game. While rs3 is definately less grindy than osrs.. it is STILL very much a grind. It's not so much "easyscape" as it is "convenientscape." People make it seem like you can max your account in a week and that's bullshit. Unless you're spending thousands of dollars on the game and even then it would take some time.. thats not going to happen. All bonus experience does is adds a fixed amount of xp to the base experience rate and makes it slightly faster.. FOR EXAMPLE, if you were mining a rune rock and received 150xp per ore, the bonus experience will make it so you get 215xp per ore. Meaning you still have to mine the rune rock... just less of them to achieve your goals. And once the bonus xp runs out, you're back to base xp rates. It's not like you spend 100 dollars and boom, 99 slayer. And the elitists make it seem like that's how treasure hunter works and it's waaay wrong. There are FAR more methods to training a skill in rs3 as well. More fun methods, but also the same classic methods that you're used to. But because of these changes, you can enjoy more of the content without it feeling like a full time job. I'm certain you will enjoy it once you get past the slight learning curve which will only take about a week. If you don't enjoy the combat updates (which once you learn them actually add a lot of fun and challenge to the game) But if you don't like them, you can always play on a legacy server and enjoy the Old-school combat. The interface is FULLY customisable to your preference, but there is also the legacy interface which gives all the content and enjoyment of rs3 while still maintaining the UI simplicity of osrs. So I hope you read this far and I hope this gives you some insight into what a lot of the "issues" elitist osrs players complain about with rs3 and I hope it helps you make an informed decision. But definately give it a chance man and if you need a clan or some friends to help you get started, reply to this and you can add me whenever you eventually try it out. Best of luck and have a good day man.
I've tried to give rs3 a chance but everytime I log in I am just overwhelmed by the menu and pop ups. I like the simplicity of osrs and the grind but wish I could get into the skilling and pvm of rs3 too as I've got a few friends who play rs3.
I admit it took a few days for me to get used to the interface. It can become overwhelming specially if you are not used to modern MMOS. Give it some time, what I did was train Slayer and started to use the interface more and more with time. Now after two years I'm finally using multiple combat bars and switches. It's a patience thing.
honestly, I just looked up a good revolution bar and use that But if you're really adamant about the combat being over bearing, do what I did and play RS3 for a few months using the legend interface and legend combat style. It basically gives you the combat and look of OSRS but you get the increase in exp and to play with people you know
Aright 2 hot takes 1: the slower overall movement speed in old school makes the game world feel bigger than it actually is. In rs3 this is undermined by lodestones and resting. Lodestones remove the need to run between towns, and resting means that you can run around towns as much as you like with minimal waiting. The combined effect is that the space between towns need not even exists and the towns themselves feel small and cramped. This effect takes place too in old school, but gradually, as your character unlocks teleports and agility items. This means that while you start playing and are still learning the world map, the world feels larger, and fuller. 2: graphical cohesion makes osrs more visually appealing. While rs3 looks wayyy better when you stay in recently developed areas, it won't be long before you find areas that haven't been touched in years. Some areas In rs3 look almost identical to the same area in osrs, save for higher res textures and lighting tweaks. This undermines the cases visual cohesion, it doesn't feel like one consistent world. Like with the last point, osrs has this problem too, areas developed since osrs was launched have a habit of actually looking nice. However, the overall visual style is consistent enough for the world to feel less like a patchwork.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 there are plenty of cons and valid criticisms for RS3 but going to the GE and your chat box not instantly getting filled with gambling or cape selling advertisements is a huge value add. I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of OSRS active accounts are bots or gold farmers.
There’s something about the tedious and lack of quality of life stuff that makes it so appealing. I can’t really describe why but it’s similar to monster hunter where the old games it use to take forever to farm materials and perform certain actions. If you forgot an item or to eat your meal you just had to deal it. Now it’s just drop into the map, bee-line to the monster and kill it. It’s still a fun game but it’s missing its other half that broke up the gameplay. Games today are so afraid to lose your interest that they streamline everything into an action game.
Yeah. I know what you mean. Its like the higher risk gives you a lot of More reward. Its like Witz Dark Souls. Bestieg the Game Feels Great. In this Game had a Easy Mode ist wouldn‘t be Good.
As someone who plays both OSRS and RS3 I wanna state my main pros and cons of both games. They're other reasons but these are the big ones RS3 pro: Really fun and interactive combat system (once one get into it, does take a while but after a few minutes and hours of messing around it really is just better.) RS3 pro: So many different activities to do. There's always something to do, especially late game. I'm maxed on rs3 and still got so much to do. Daily runs, slayer, bossing, D&Ds, ports, pof, even skilling is still worth doing. (Compared to osrs where once you get a 99 you just stop unless you pet hunt or 200m grind) RS3 con: MTX, the way they handle these along with promotions definitely ruin the game. It feels like a mobile game with extra steps when it comes to MTX which sucks and really devalues 99s and even 120s. Even devalues combat since you can win 'lucky' godswords and armor. Rs3 con: Economy is just awful to mess with. I'm not an ironman but I play like one pretty much, trying to work out a deal with somebody at the ge, bank sells, even flipping on the GE is pretty annoying and usually just a waste of time, unless you got millions upon millions / billions and know how to flip it's a waste of time. Might as well play Ironman on rs3 if you're considering giving it a chance. Rs3 con: Community, it's split apart so much and unless you join a clan which is pretty hard to find a good one you're going to spend most of your time alone. They're lots of awesome clans out there but a lot of them have high level requirements to join that you'll probably never join one, you'll end up in a 'fun and everyone is allowed clan' instead which doesn't do any events really. OSRS pro: Community, there's nothing else needed to be said. Full of life, most of the people will hear you out and have a conversation with you in game, even the mods/devs on OSRS are fantastic. Community gets to vote for content, much better. OSRS pro: Everything feels earned. You spend a lot of time but that's how runescape started out as, a fun time investment game that we all love. OSRS pro: No powercreep. *cough new t99 game breaking amulet. yay 1 second corp kill...* OSRS con: No powercreep. I say this in a way as, once you get the gear you need, that's it. It doesn't take much to get to the t70/75 armor/weapons these days if you know what you're doing. I know the community doesn't want powercreep, but I hope the devs really figure out something to spice up the meta of the game. OSRS con: late game is dull, there's not much to do besides boss and complete collection logs. Skilling is pretty much worthless since all you need to do is slayer or boss. The game is way to focused on pvm late game. Which is fun and all but after tons of hours invested in it, normal players get bored. Overall, I do say RS3 is the more fun game to play but it's also a broken game that can be weird. Then there's OSRS which is still fun to play but it's just so much more simplistic that it can get boring after a while and you can get burned out easier in. On another note, I just got firemaking pet :o woohoo
On the MTX con (I dislike MTX just to be clear): the lucky items are all low tier stuff now since really the goal in RS3 is to get at least t90 stuff. They don't really matter. Also someone getting them doesn't devalue some else's grind for the regular versions of said items. The person who grinded for the items as a boss drop has a big advantage over the lucky MTX user too, because they have some boss log progress. Edit: gratz on the pet!
Mtx really affects no one. It help the people that don't have irl cash with other player buying bonds. So it's more or less helpful. The TH affects only the person doing it. And of you think it devalues your goals and such. Of you knew the amount of money someone would need to spend you would puke... To just max. No. Mtx only affect those that use it. Simply don't use it if you don't like it. No one forces you to regardless of daily login popups. Personally I don't use TH. I do buy bonds with gp for runecoins and such but that's just all cosmetics and no realtime affect what so ever.
I actually enjoy both versions. But magic is not nearly as effective as ranged and melee for bossing in OSRS. I love that magic is strong and viable in RS3, since magic is my favorite combat style.
I have played both. I prefer osrs over Rs3 because of the nostalgic feeling of the original game. Sorta like driving manual over driving with an automatic.
I grew up on OSRS and as soon as rs3 came out, I tried it and I hated it because it wasn't what I was used to. Keep in mind, OSRS was the only mmorpg I had played at the time. I haven't played since 2012. Now after seeing how the genre has evolved, I can't see myself playing OSRS again. RS3 is full of QoL improvements and many things that were missing in OSRS, RS3 has. I'm actually going to get back into runescape when RS3 comes to mobile on June 17th as I don't have a computer currently and I am looking forward to getting into it. Majority of why OSRS being so loved still is because many like me grew up with it. Its the nostalgia. But trying to compare it to modern MMOS, it doesn't hold up. Thats why they made the change. I can't wait to play RS3 because I am not as narrow minded as I once was and I can see how much of an improved game it is over OSRS now.
OSRS seems like they made things take longer than they should To make the content last longer but RS3 has so much content they don’t need to drag things out, you can just go and explore content and have fun. I like OSRS and it’s rewarding but I just have more fun playing RS3
thanks for explaining this , I am new to MMORPG genre and my friend introduced me to OSRS and RS3 , now he plays both but I asked which I should play and he wasnt sure so I started to look up on youtube that what is the main differences in the game and your video really helped me pick one of them , thank you. I picked RS3 if you are curious , I can't grind a lot since I play like 2 hours a day and really liked the style of RS3
My kid sister has friends who play OSRS. They mock me for playing RS3 until I remind them that I was actually there for RS2. I played RS2 and enjoyed it and I enjoy RS3 now. Don’t see a point beyond nostalgia for going back to OSRS since I already did it.
The age gap also likely has a large factor too. OSRS just demands a lot more of your time. If you have the time to play it, I’m sure you’ll love OSRS. Kids just have more free time. And a lot of the older people playing OSRS probably have part-time jobs or no job at all. But for the aged-up population of people who did play RS2 and have jobs now, they really don’t have the time for the grind of OSRS. Even the MTX nature plays into that by letting the player choose to spend additional money to skip certain parts of the game that they would rather not spend their free time doing. Despite the fact that Silverhawk Boots/Feathers are 100% a p2w feature, nobody really complains about it existing because they’re easily accessible and Agility is generally considered one of the worst skills to actively train. And If you don’t like the p2w elements, then just play Ironman. I don’t really plan on playing OSRS because I don’t really have the time for it. But I’m glad its there for people who do have the time to play it, because it is simply a game that rewards players with more time. If I were a kid today, I’d probably play OSRS too.
So you’re a casual player who wants the game to be easier, less engaging. You don’t want to walk places. You want to get 99 in a skill without having to work that hard. They never intended for people to get 99s but the fact that you can is part of why RuneScape was so magical back then. I hate to say it, but you definitely just don’t “get” it and that’s totally fine. But to act like we are elitists for enjoying the grind is uncalled for. The game doesn’t have a massive, dedicated playerbase for no reason. People wouldn’t just sit there and click to max if the game wasn’t good
This is coming from someone who had what I remember as 200 or so real time days logged by 2010 in what is now called rs3... I'm reading a lot of comments about rs3 being easier. To an extent yes things are a little more convenient, but in no means easier and that's why it doesn't have people play. The quests, gameplay, everything is simply better. But it is too overwhelming and the combat isn't simple enough to understand. Lets not understate the fact some people can't handle a game that actually takes more skill. I got my levels a long time before it became easy to do so. I still enjoy rs3 better and have been getting back into it the best I can. The older I get the more I realize I have hobbies, a career, many life things that don't let me spend months on end fishing or woodcutting like I used to.
I don’t understand the complaint about XP rates in the game. Maxing in RS3 isn’t something that is an accomplishment anymore, the XP rates are definitely higher because most people are grinding for 120s or 200M xp in skills.
Here's how I think of it. Runescape 3 is actually Runescape proper. It's literally the same Runescape from 2001 that's been continually upgraded for 20 years. So Runescape 3 is the same as the current version of Minecraft Java. OSRS is more like playing Minecraft 1.7.0 or something like that. Runescape Classic would be like finding an old Mincraft Alpha build.
I have played RS in general since classic. While I do favor rs3 heavily, I really enjoyed starting again on osrs and getting about 1700 total with a few 99s. This being said my rs3 account has completionist cape and I really love pet/title hunting, which is why I favor rs3. tldr: Both games are great, nothing wrong with enjoying either of them or just one of them.
A lot of the points you made against osrs seems to come from a place of not knowing pretty much. However from what i've heard it's more the grindiness you have a problem with, which is fair. Personally i enjoy the combat style of timing, switches and movement of osrs, but it's not for everyone. Seems to me like you chose the right game for your preferances.
@@inuyasha989 obviously you didn't play enough. Jagex rs3 is a joke. They put out key hunter and had promotional stack. It was jagex and isn't of say we are sorry and discontinue the promotion they just ban over 4000 people. Alot of the ban were reverse but it still not the play fault for a non bug but just stupid rs3 promotion stacking. They didn't even apologize.
The fact that parts of oldschool arent fun is actually an important part of what made the game as a whole work back in the day. The unfun skills were very profitable and provided good unlocks. Unfortunately the drop tables these days in oldschool have lead to many of those skills being devalued to the point where they are just an annoying grind you have to do to complete quests. It is important that some parts of oldschool are "work" because the content unlock reward system in oldschool is tremendously satisfying as a result, I would like to see drop tables adjusted to bring some value back to fabrication skills and the highest tiers from the gathering skills.
nah dude thats not at all true, i play both games and rs3 bosses are verry hard. like yeah inferno is extremely difficult aswell but in rs3 there are so much more mechanics and you have to watch out for so many more things then in osrs. I like osrs more but rs3 bosses are very hard
Qol of rs3 is amazing. Although the menus and options are pretty outrageous. Tried helping a friend get into the game n it took like an hour just to set up his action bar and combat settings.
Low mobility was a big deal for me in osrs so im currently grinding hallowed sepulchre to 99 agility.. And with a ring of endurance + graceful I will be running till im maxed out
@@calummcleod9791 I came here for this exact fucking comment, thank you. jfc its like nobody here adapted with the game's updates. I cant even remember the last time i actually walked somewhere in OSRS.
That’s the beauty of it the run meter does suck on old-school RuneScape but there’s ways to grind that and make that easier and that’s the appeal of RuneScape there’s always one more level one more scale one more monster to keep you going
Toolbelt and coin pouch would be a nice QoL addition to osrs. And I also agree that osrs is not that friendly with low-mid lvl content, but once you get around all high diary tasks done, the game becomes much more enjoyable and soulful than RS3
That's true to an extent. The only issue is the game is so grindy that people who csnt put 100+ hours a week into the game won't get to experience any of that content for a few years and by then they will most likely lose interest entirely.
They gotta justify spending a high % of their entire life clicking a rock. Only the most skilled and elite gamers can handle playing a game as hard and complex as Runescape...at least that is what they like to tell themselves :P
I think it's has more to do with the fact that the guy put up a very weak argument in the video and was clearly very biased when talking about OS vs Rs3. He constantly repeated himself about the bossing experience and said he "didn't mind the microtransactions" which is just sad because you literally can't even log in to the game without seeing the micro transactions page or a discount on TH keys. I have both osrs and Rs3 accounts but they are 2 different games by a large margin. Log into any world on rs3 and like 80% of the world is literally maxed or just sit at the GE with their protean logs and Bars that they got for free, go adventure into the world and you notice immediately how dead rs3 is. Seriously go do some quests in al Kharid , run around anywhere past the ge/varrock, its a ghost town.
@@highlanderholyfield855 argument? Bias? It was this mans opinion. There is no argument, and bias is inherent. He prefers rs3 for his specific preferences as a player, and you people took his opinion as an attack and something that needs to be disproven when theres nothing to disprove.
@@hmad898 there's a difference between sharing an educated opinion, and detailing why, and what he is doing, which is sharing an uneducated opinion that misrepresents the thing he's saying he doesn't like. The whole point of this video was to cater to rs3 players need to feel like their game is superior.
@@janitorizamped the whole point of this video was to explain why op plays rs3 instead of osrs, which is because of the lower grind compared to osrs (which is true) and the better bossing experience (which is also true).
Not even a minute into the video and your first error was that you have only put in less than 100 hours into the game. Osrs is a saturated yet well nurished child that takes years to fully appreciate let alone achieve all the set goals. I think you get my point. . .
@@link4585 he clearly said he was having to run back to the bank when forgetting his tools. The tool leprechaun is essentially a bank for tools, he just didnt use it. I'm not debating whether or not its more convenient to have a tool belt, bc obviously having one is better. All I'm saying is he was ignorant to the tools around him and his point about forgetting his tools is generally invalid
RS117 is working on a new graphics update for osrs. He's creating a 2008-2010 plugin for runelite. I do agree though, they need at least some musicians scattered around the world to refill your run energy and toolbelt would be nice too. But im not sure about the lodestone network, makes it too easy to travel and makes teleports kinda meaningless.
Musicians would be fine, as most players wouldn’t even use them, only really newer players. But there’s no way they would add the tool belt. A majority of the playerbase would see it as easyscape.
Crux crucifix no doubt, but hence easy scape. You don’t NEED 3 extra spaces on farming runs, but it would be nice. For a lot of people inventory management is part of the game, and that’s a very big change to a core mechanic. There’s even an entire game mode based around it. How many ultimate ironman would that upset versus how many it would please? It’s just not a necessary change
Ever since I got into ESO for a few years I haven’t been able to fully enjoy OSRS. I was purely mobile OSRS for a few years and played a lot of Elder Scrolls Online and ARPG games. Getting back into RuneScape on a computer has made me want to play RS3 much more than OSRS. Old school is nostalgic and a nice challenge in the sense of a grind. Most of my friends play Ironman and do SO MUCH content (jokes they literally only do TOA 80% of the time). The tick system just isn’t enough for me brain after playing full-fledged MMO/RPG games. The combat is just so boring compared to RS3. QOL updates are slowly making OSRS more bearable, but not yet appealing enough to stick with. Lodestones, rework run, and the fang have just made OSRS a zombie plague. Anyone who PVP’s I get playing OSRS. Any other reason I hear why people think OSRS is better ends up being BS. Don’t like micro transactions that give you random rewards? Don’t worry, everyone just buys gold on OSRS. Most of the things that my OSRS buddies say they hate about RS3 are the exact things they vote to bring into OSRS 😂 Where do OS players think 75% of their content has come from? It comes from RS3 lol. Coming back after 6 years and see ALL the QOL and content additions to OSRS that came straight from RS3 is hilarious. My GIM friends get cringe when I point out everything they like is RS3-transferred content, yet they choose denial lmao. OSRS is for sticking it to your stupid younger self who couldn’t figure out the game.
I am an avid osrs player, and would easily say it is my prefered game. That being said, I do like rs3 for what it is, except for the combat system and the economy. Which is why I ended up playing a 10hp ironman. I would also like to add that osrs really does need rs3, if not just for the mtx it is super clear that osrs learns from rs3, a lot of the things osrs did right was a concept taken from rs3, rs3 has the ability to just throw things into the game that osrs can learn and addapt to its own style.
I fully respect this man's opinion. I have well over 6k hours in OSRS (player since 2004, up to 2014), and quit OSRS a few years after playing off and on post EOC update. I returned to RS3 today, and my GOD it's a completely different experience.
Thiago Klock yup. I've noticed that many OSRS players have elitist mentalities which is why they prefer OSRS. They consider it more prestigious to have maxed skills there because you basically have to be unemployed to do that since it doesn't have nearly as many bxp sources as rs3 and then on top of that the exp/h rates are usually lower. But hey, I'd rather have a job and 99 stats then just have 99 stats so RS3 all the way. I'll play my easyscape you play your unemployedscape
I don't like how RS3 removed the meaning of sprint energy, I wish they'd add a rest option instead. edit: apparently i can't write. i meant to say that i wish they kept sprint drain like it's in old school, so resting would be worth doing.
For now I'm playing RS3 because honestly I'm having more fun on it. But if I see anything cool added to OSRS, then I'll hop on that. That's the benefit of playing both.
After 5-6k hours on OSRS something about rs3 seems really appealing. But I logged in once and saw so many menus and buttons and toggles that I became overwhelmed and left
This is big facts like what
The user interface is a Frankenstein's monster.
@@coincollectorchase the only other game thats interface has utterly overwhelmed me was FFXIV.
Iv played both now after editing them, but my god, the base menus are atrocious
@@coincollectorchase I mean i got there in the end, but it is quite bloated, and a lot to throw at a person all at once. its something that i think would benefit from being tuned down on opening the game, and just let the person edit/add more stuff as they grow more competent.
@@coincollectorchase I play both but os pays for the bonds lol.
Weirdly enough the tediousness and grindy aspects of osrs is what draws me in everyday.
thats why i played back then and thats why i came back now
@Captain Hands well he is certainly smarter than you
@Captain Hands A simple question? Just your average douche that can’t handle someone with a different opinion. Before you respond with “all I asked was a simple question”, go get yourself some help and maybe one day you’ll understand why no one fucks with you 💀
@Captain Hands stfu deadscape 3 player with 2.5k player base
@Captain Hands double replying and calling me salty loool what a clown stop trying rs3 player your games dead get over it lmfaooo ..
As someone who's almost maxed in OSRS, I got burnt out. Moved to RS3 and is loving the change of pace. Treat it as a new/separate game.
That's how I am going to be. I just want to accomplish my goals of getting 99 in every skill first in osrs. Then I am really jumping hardcore into RS3.
I recently stopped playing osrs and started to play rs3 after 7 years break. Leveling a skill in this game is way more enjoyable.
Lmao rs3 is dead
@@ronaszn9728 Lol I dunno.. Seems to be getting quite popular
@@meaningfulmindfulness15 nah the only reason rs3's player base grew alittle was because it launched mobile pvp is still dead
As an rs3 player, something i like about osrs is the simplicity of it, it dont take long time to figure out the user interface, u dont got drakes, bikinis, treasure hunter and particles wherever you go. Sure it may not have all the quality of life updates but thats also a part of it that makes it nostalgic and a version of the game many of us in rs3 fell in love with when we first started playing in 2007 or 2008 ish. That said i prefer to follow the main game but im really glad osrs exists.
osrs was fun in 2005 because thats where videogames where in 2005. its not fun anymore because a i played during that time an b i remeber the combat system hitting the wall, where max pvp fighting was the only way to fight because u were just out there one hiting each other with the korasi spec. so u had to always have mage prayer on but then ppl would just one shot cannon u. im glad in rs3 its impossible to one tic hit ur opponet. i also got tired of being frozen by someone and that just being that no way for me to escape or anything just
i really like this comment.
i hate rs3 but agree w/ you
@@garrettbauer3011 can I know why you and others hate rs3? I really wanna know others' opinions
Funny you should say “main game” ... OSRS is the main game these days. Thats how it is to the OG runescape players.
@@jaydenosrs5957 Not really, the "main game" is the one of personal preference. It's whichever game you play more. It doesn't matter which one is more popular. I'm not even an rs3 player, but I know plenty of "OG" players that I played with in classic, to RS2, and now that only play RS3.
- "Here's what I don't like about OSRS..."
- *Names all the reasons people play OSRS*
so true
So morons. Got ya
@@ragerblade82 what a comeback? tbh idek what you meant by that XD
And yet, so many people are demanding for half the things he brought up
@@7svn. never can please everyone that's why osrs has polls :D
I was almost maxed on OSRS and switched to RS3. OSRS just feels like a job and grind all the time. RS3 is way more versatile and you don't feel burned out.
Going for max in osrs will always be a grind like what lol. Majority of the content doesn’t require stats higher than 90
@@ovs4744 Gower brothers made the curve intentionally that absurd ( formula for the function => f(x)= (x-1+300 x 2 x (x-1/7) / 4 with X being the level starting from 2). First when they programmed it they thought nobody would reach 99. It is a grind cause it is supposed to be a grind.
@@Berreie1616 In rs3 I could kill rockcrabs all day long and be on that same grind. Or if I get burnt out I can go get real xp. Why would I waste my time on rockcrabs tho?
In rs3 we don' t go for 99's anymore we go for 120's. I don't have the time to train on rockcrabs all day like I did in school skipping school to grind for 99. We get skill capes for getting 99x10 in a skill. We get rewarded halfway thru capping the xp in the skill vs just 5% of the way.
i love osrs always will but after getting 99 combat stats (which tooks years) i have absolutely no intention to go for 99 in any other stat
@@marcbenedict3676 yep I'm maxed account now all I do is pk or birdhouse runs.
Draw distance is a big one for me. I feel a lot more immersed in RS3 as I can see beyond 10 yards. I know runelite helps but doesnt come clost to RS3
True. 😎👍🏻
I know RS basically started as a text game, but can’t deal with the draw distance in 2023 in osrs, it makes me feel depressed
I hate how little you see on RS3 vs OSRS. You can't zoom out as much as you can on OSRS. It's one of the only things that angers me in RS3. But luckily you can expand the map to make it easier to move.
I don’t understand all the dislikes. Can’t people have their own decisions? Oh, wait, this is the internet.
your point of run energy i actually feel the opposite about, RS3 has made agility an obsolete skill, oldschool actually makes the skill still feel like an actual impactful skill
At low levels run energy is a limited resources on RS3. But you go spend ~8 hours to get ~50 agility and suddenly you don't have to worry about it any more. It's like unlocking a permanent upgrade for your account.
(Unless you're an avid clue hunter, in which case you will need to go get a really high arch level and unlock the unlimited run relic)
That does mean high-level agility is only good for shortcuts, but let's be honest, agility is a retarded skill for an MMO and would never exist in a modern game.
Adam Fawcett bro it’s not even that limited at low levels. The ridiculous recharge rate of energy combined with the loadstone system means a low level would have to try pretty hard to even have to think about resting
no point to agility in rs3? are you high ignorant stupid or all 3? lol
@@Khaliljt amazing at 99 agility i still have to use rest
its almost as if training agility means something still thats not even to mention all the REQUIRED agility shortcuts there are to unlock lest you wanna for example run all AROUND the fossil island to get to where you need to go instead of using the "agility course" short cuts
nightshadow the skolftaur I can’t speak for for higher levels I just came from f2p account and just completed all the quests there and so far I’ve never had to rest. Also a lot of the shortcuts have been removed. At least a lot of the ones that are there in old school
This sounds exactly like the arguments made for and against WoW and WoW Classic. Two different kinds of difficulty, one is time investment and the other is mechanics and people just choose whichever they enjoy playing more, who cares.
Nice comment. You are not wrong.
people just like to create war between two things despite of them being basically the same. this is why aliens see us as petty. we have the urge to create wars even in smallest of things.
@@farlonmuentes6004 I agree with that. Unfortunately I am not innocent within that kind of matter lmao but I should try to be
Theres plenty of mechanics in osrs ?
@@chazefez9625 true
As an Old School player, I've never had an issue with RS3. The quality of life, easier xp, complex combat stystem, minigames, and even the mtx, none of them have ever bothered me. I played RS3 for many years after Old School was released. The thing that ultimately drove me away from the game wasn't the game itself, it was the player base. And i'm not talking about toxicity, I'm talking about how every other player that I ever saw was maxed out. I never did any of the minigames, bosses, or any of those types of things that made xp faster in the game and I still enjoyed playing it. But after having put all of that grind and time into my skills, to see half of the other players with all 120's or 99...it just made my effort seem pointless. I didn't switch to Old School right away, I just took a break from RS3 for a while until I saw that OSRS mobile had come out, so I decided to try it. Then I discovered ironman mode...then ultimate ironman mode...and now I'm addicted to it. At the end of the day, RS3 just wasn't the type of game that I enjoyed playing anymore. Is that a bad thing? No ,of course not, because my opinion isn't the only one that matters. Hell, when I try to get friends into Runescape, I actually tell them to play RS3 because it's more noob friendly. Then, if they didn't like it, maybe give Old School a shot.
BASED
Wtf dude
Lol you ask yourself questions 😆
Come back.
@@Nozylatten Bro thinks he Hamlet. 💀💀💀
I quit RS3 for good a few years ago and thought I was fully committed to osrs but as I'm getting close to maxing and end game content I'm realizing that the pvm in old school leaves a lot to be desired. It's about prayer flicking and gear switching, which is fine, but it's not great compard to vorago or araxxor or solo nex, and I know RS3 has even more complex and challenging bosses than that now. For anyone who hasn't done late game pvm in RS3 and is used to old school bosses there really is no comparison.
Everything in old-school botscape leaves a lot to be desired in including and especially the combat. There's a reason the player base voted for the combat to be changed which led to EoC.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 I dont think that was voted on, was it? Pretty sure most people were against the idea from the start, and I heard EoC was so bad at launch that even current RS3 players cringe from the 2012 version.
I believe EoC had a beta phase and feedback was encouraged, but it was far from polls like OSRS has
@@RiseRegen Nope there was definitely a player poll. Even OSRS was polled, Jagex said if 75% of players vote for OSRS they'll implement it as they found a back up of 07 RS. Here's the thing, only 69% of players voted for OSRS and they implemented it anyway. Not remembering something doesn't mean it didn't happen
Sometimes I wish I could get into RS3. My old account has a lot of hours and achievements that I'm proud of, but I just don't like the combat system or the art style.
Same here.
You could just switch to legacy mode and play it in the old combat system and even with the old UI.
@@Martlns I have played in legacy mode before, and while it still keeps the newer art style that I don't like, I did appreciate that Jagex added the option 👍
@@Mick-hp4yg makes sense, then the game just isn't for you.
@@Martlns That sums it up perfectly actually haha. And I understand the reasons on the video/abroad for preferring RS3 over OSRS 👌
One of the main issues that I've seen OSRS players having with RS3 is the interface as it seems overwhelming. There is an option for Legacy Interface which essentially gives you the OSRS interface. With regards to the RS3 customisable interface, it does seem overwhelming at first, however if you spend 5 mins looking into it, it genuinely does improve quality of life so much. Being able to have your backpack, as well as your prayers, as well as your worn equipment tabs open all at the same time just saves loads of hassle when PVMing and questing for example. One of the things mentioned in the video which I think should have been emphasised even further is presets. I cannot imagine playing this game without presets now, especially for bosses like Nex where you need to have two different setups, one for getting to the boss lobby and then one for fighting Nex. In a game with so many different skills and combat setups that require so many different inventories, the amount of time saved being able to load a preset rather than having to click on each item in the bank individually is ridiculous. My last point is abilities. I see loads of people complaining about there being too many abilities which will take too long to learn, however you won't really need to know the exact use of each ability until you start bossing, and you will have plenty of time to learn the use of all the abilities while training your combat stats to get to the levels that you need in order to do the bosses. Just hovering over the abilities tells you what they do and it's pretty simple to gauge whether the ability will be useful or not. For early game, just set your combat style to revolution so your abilities auto-queue and from there you will see what each ability does and can learn it passively.
Omg? Do I need to learn a game? Ugh. This is so stupid! Ill just play 007 on the 64. It was way easier..
People are just lazy. Lmao.
I play osrs, dont care about how many interface buttons or screens there are, we are not overwhelmed, EOC just is complete garbage if I wanted to play anything with abilities etc id play WoW lol
@@motrolleur7368 what makes eoc garbage
@@motrolleur7368 You say 'we' as if your opinions are representative of every osrs player. There are countless comments on videos and forums of people saying 'I logged onto RS3 and the interface put me off'.
Haley Romaine eoc “evolution of combat” thats what makes it garbage
I started playing at the end of 2003, early 2004.
The nostalgia factor is the biggest reason a lot of people I know prefer osrs.
Your list of reasons is super valid, which is probably why I find myself playing RS3 significantly more than old school recently.
I do think that getting 2 spins each day is overpowered. I saved up a bunch of proteans and bxp and was getting 3M+ xp/hour in hunter during the most recent dxp event.
I remember way back, when you cooked food you had to click on each individual piece of food, then click on the range/fire to cook it. There have definitely been a lot of QoL changes throughout the years, and I'm a firm believer that they're not all bad ;)
Oh mean yeah and in classic where you had to hover over your inventory, click the pick axe, then click the rock. Ooooo those were the days.
I disagree with the nostalgia factor. Some of us stick to rs3 because of nostalgia since the characters have been with us for long with all the childhood memories. Playing osrs is like starting a totally new game in ESO, Black desert or other mmos
@@j4spdz449 yep my 10yr acc is something i just can't abandon ya kno?
17 years for me. I still have items at the top of my bank that have been in the same spot since the beginning.
Nostalgia will get old players to play OSRS for a lil bit, but it won’t keep them playing. Yet osrs still has a much larger player base
Stamina pots and the tool leprechaun is all im gonna say
Graceful
Really. Plus it’s nice you get I think the first or second pool in your POH you can tele there for a full restore.
This dude sounds so lazy lmfao
House pool
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The fact that OSRS Skilling takes a ridiculous amount of time is what makes it appealing to a lot of people. makes the 99 even more of an achievement
Exactly. I just saw a guy in rs3 get lvl 99 in 10 minutes using a mtx glitch. That game is a joke no wonder everyone plays osrs instead
@@based90 true ! i tried it once and when i logged in for first time i got a ton of exp for free , for doing nothing at all
and because of that it makes the economy more valued, it makes the imersion bigger lol it makes a real mmorpg
After maxing in OSRS i created a new account to play RS3 on.
It's really like he said in the vid, it's still a grind, but not that heavy compared to osrs's grind.
And personally I'm a fan of that after playing 5K+ hrs on OSRS, the games don't have to be a copy of each other.
PvM seems really interesting tho on RS3 so i'm excited to give that a proper shot
@@SaradominOSRS I'll just make a new account and start over
2011-2012 was the sweet spot for me. I play and love Osrs, but I respect you preference of RS3
Well it’s the game he plays so it’s gonna be a little bias.
the nice part of the grind of osrs is that the grind is worth something
Osrs has the fastest xp rates of any pre eoc build of runescape and 99 in certain skills can be achieved faster in osrs than rs3.
@@johnfisher8401 ive seen people get 99 fletching in under 5 hours on osrs
hello, i am fairly new to rs3 but in OSRS the complexity of the combat comes not from the boss mechanics but how you abuse the tick system to kill stuff faster. For example people can kill graardor in OSRS and get many many more kills per trip by standing in a certain spot that aligns the attacks from the other mobs and then prayer flicking perfectly to take almost zero damage. Though more recently with newer bosses they are basically trying to copy RS3 bosses. Nex: AoD is in Oldschool as a boss called "the nightmare". Same fight basically.
Also the difficulty curve comes with how quickly and precisely you can click because you can't keybind prayers or anything. This was actually something I loved about RS3. Being able to keybind prayers is like such a major change from old school it's insane. You wouldn't think it would be so big but it literally changes the entire experience.
For me personally when the complexity of combat comes from how well you can abuse the tick system and how effectively you can click precisely and fast, it just becomes so unfun to me.
Like sure you can master it but you're having to master precise clicking to gain the slightest advantage, but because of how the combat system works being so balanced that slight advantage is essential otherwise you're gonna lose every PvP fight.
On top of that RS3 has elements of that, just look at Maikeru's 0 second Graardor kill. There's the same abusing of the tick system there's just other factors that make combat more interesting without that. And then being able to do that stuff puts you in the very very upper echelons of skill.
@@amayesingnathan I never will shed a tear about not having to master precise clicking and tick manipulation. :)
I have played a large amount of osrs nearly maxing my combat skills and quests but i recently stepped away from osrs to try rs3 and I'm absolutely loving the graphics, music and quests it just feels so much better and I think ill be playing rs3 mainly while going back to osrs once and awhile
Same, the more i play rs3 the more I realize its the same game, just a completely different way of doing everything. Once I figured the interface, and keybinds etc. it became much more simpler to play RS3
@@WokeEggo I see it looks like modern tibia vs old tibia :D But to be honest...i play OSRS and I like it, but it's not easy tho. Maybe i didnt play enough time...hope i will not be disappointed as i am on albion
I played OSRS for a little bit but after the nostalgia of playing it when I was 9/10 wore off it just seemed so boring and slow. I like how interactive rs3 is with abilities.
I love RS3. I played OSRS for years, all the whole wondering what the “actual game” was like. I remembered watching A Friend videos on rs3 creatures and being very intrigued. Safe to say when i finally tried rs3 i was hooked. if it wasn’t for my friends literally hating rs3 for no reason (they refuse to even try) i wouldn’t touch OSRS but it’s what they play
Right? All they can say is it's like wow, what are all these abilities blah blah blah... And yet they never tried playing it at all, then proceeded to complain about easyscape / mtx etc
I'm like easyscape or QoL? And you don't have to buy mtx or even use them, it doesn't effect you or other people 😂
I'm not trying to tell them to play rs3 but I would like them to give it a good go before talking shit without proof or facts
I just want to play with more of my friends and do fun stuff, but nah osrs bruh 😥
Such a divided world and Aldo a fact, they simply don't want to learn
PS. I play both osrs and rs3 actively
17 years on going
Having 15 different types of MTX currencies shoved in your face has something to do with it. The combat is also horrible.
@@swavaynator1119 I played RS3 for years. The combat really is bad. PVP is nonexistent and ability bar encourages braindeadedness with revolution mode. Skilling is better in RS3 and it has all the best quests like While Guthix Sleeps and Chosen Commander. MTX is everywhere you look that it's exhausting.
@@JohnFromAccounting pvp exists, pking is what's dead. There's a difference.
I love the fact that I can pvp anywhere any time and not lose anything.
@@JohnFromAccounting guess braindeadness pray switching and moving side to side is soo much better than full Manuel. Lmao. Maybe actually try the game. Lol
Critiques of boss content: at 1200 total level you would not have any experience with bossing. Check out videos or actually experience them yourself. Dodging attacks, timing attacks, planning inventory and gear, timing special attacks, movement during fights, freezing adds, boss special attacks, learning boss attack patterns, controlling Your hp to mini s damage from certain group targeting abilities, etc.
There are tons of mechanics in late game content that you don’t really experience without getting there. 85 combat 1200 total isn’t really mid game.
I agree with you but I don't think the point is that OSRS doesn't have cool PVM content. Just compared to RS3, it has less of it and of lesser quality simply because RS3s combat system allows for devs to implement a lot more diverse mechanics. Although with updates like the nightmare in OSRS I can definitely see it catching up more.
@@AlmalekeLoL Its different mechanics, man. RS3 can have different mechanics, simply due to differing skills and stuff. I wouldn't say "lesser," but "different."
Ive played osrs a lot but I now recently downloaded rs3! It’s super cool and so far I’m having a good time!
Since I subbed to you last week you made me want to switch back to rs3 . New account only f2p but I’m already loving the game
On rs3 there are actually quite a big number of pure f2p players as well if you want to go down that route, Maikeru made an f2p series showcasing the early levels
Everybody complaining about the overwhelming interface in RS3. I've spent thousands of hours in RS3. Take it from me, get past the overwhelming part, learn how it works and it will. Rock. Your.
World.
Played OG scape for a long time as a kid to a teen. Enjoyed it, had friends who played, was a good time but didn't know what I was doing.
Eoc came out, 90% of the people I knew, including myself, quit.
Tried osrs when it came out. Couldn't stand it.
It was so slow, so tedious, everything took so long, nothing felt like an accomplishment. I was never invested because I was always staring at my run energy being at zero. Skills took ages to level up and rarely gave rewarding stuff. People advised to do Waterfall Quest. To skip the grind? Then what else does the game have? How are you making your own adventure if you're following a certain way to play?
Quit osrs, then three days ago figured "Why not see how Runescape is doing?".
Installed it, did the starting tasks in Burthorpe, did a couple of starting quests. It feels like it's caught up to every other MMO as far as quality of life goes. At least for the most part. Mining was a joy. Random double ore, random insta ores, access to a lot of mine spots a stone's throw away from a bank and forge. Didn't even need a bank because the bronze box let's you fill it with copper and tin ore up to a stack of 100. Then I find out as you level up the bronze box gets more capacity. A little too late because by that point I was looking at iron stuff, but still nice.
Daily challenges, achievements, way more intractable npc's and quests. The game does have a lot of stuff in it, to the point the actual game world can seem stuffy. You can't take 15 steps without running into another intractable, but I'll take that over running long distances for the sake of running.
The interface is just standard MMO fare, I can't really see what's wrong with it. The amount of direction in Osrs is way more of a confusing turn off for me. People say "Do the quests". OK, but why would I not just do them in Runescape where there are more quests with more variety, voice acting, humour, rewards?
They released group iron-man in osrs last year, or the year before? People made new accounts to experience it. What? All the time you spent playing the game, you're just gonna reset and do it again? I can't get behind that mentality, I'd feel bad for spending so much time on doing the same stuff.
Dude started after EOC
LOL
all i can say is, unlimited run, double surge and bladed dive. i like flying across the map
I never knew how much I needed double surge until I grinded 99 agility. Oh it's so fucking cool to hear that sound effects twice.
@Lawlzilla true, construction on osrs is amazing, construction on rs3 might as well just be removed its so useless
I prefer rs3. 1 it's the original game. Osrs is a reboot rs3 is the product of many many updates.
2. It's more diverse. There's so much more to do than osrs.
3. There's more quests to do and more areas to explore.
4. It's alot more friendly for us who have families and work alot. I remember the old days of grinding smithing for hours for 1 level.
5. I've always gotten better loot from rs3 than I ever did on osrs. Rng seems more forgiving.
6. The fact you can customize ur interface and the tabs is major. I remember that update and I was sitting in tzhaar and started getting alot more kph when the update dropped.
I just switched to osrs from 3 and I don’t regret it, it’s super nice not seeing someone skip or straight up fly to walk
I personally love the grind and simplicity with nostalgia that osrs brings to me nonstop. with rs3 theres just too much to actually learn which is a real hassle. which abilities to use, when to use and how. all the insane amounts and complexity of boss mechanics. with college all year round and my part time job learning all that just conflicts with me. while i'll agree osrs is slower xp rates than rs3. after 2yrs of osrs i'm closer to maxing than the 12yrs of my acc on rs3. I love both games. just prefer osrs
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Lmao....so now people are complaining it is complex. What happened to rs3 being "ezscape" then?
@Ethan Steel okay then play Ironman.
Also the game doesn't end once you max. There's so many achievements that you can go for and so many other things you can do. Don't blindly hate on rs3 lol.
I love RS3. If you actually take the time to adapt to it and try to learn everything such as the combat system, the many skilling ways and methods, different activities and the user interface you‘ll really love it over time by getting used to it together with all the QoL. I‘d advise to use the runescape official wiki along your time playing RS3, I’ve used it too and it helped me big time whilst exploring everything.
Really wanna give rs3 a try but it feels so empty and i just wanna chat with players
Couple of things. As others have mentioned, tool leprechaun and stamina pots. But moreover, the reason grinding in osrs is so nice, is exemplified perfectly by agility or construction. At level 1 agility, your run takes ages to regenerate and you feel like you can only run for a few seconds before it's out. Leveling up agility GREATLY improves this. It gives an incentive to grind, cause the reward is so huge. Same with construction, it's essentially like leveling up the "QoL" in the game cause you get access to stat restores, teleports, spellbook swapping and so on. You mentioned that you could not imagine grinding a boring skill to 99 just for the 99, and that is the main difference between us; you grind for the 99, we grind for everything it unlocks.
hard agree. I also just found it super insulting that he implied osrs doesn't have boss mechanics especially considering he doesn't have the stats to do any of them.
This applies to RS3 too, except it’s faster in rs3, so idk what your point is
Loadstones is one of the worst updates ever. Getting your magic up to get around was a reward in itself. Loadstones made teleports obsolete, it made the teleports in your house obsolete, it makes the teleports you get from quests, diaries,... obsolete.
Same thing with run energy btw. The fact you can restore your run energy without any trouble makes potions that restore it obsolete, in OSRS you can get full graceful, potions, you can restore your run energy in your house.
In OSRS you have to make an effort to earn small benefits and all of it is rewarding. You'll have many of these benefits mid game and it makes the path towards the end game that more fulfilling.
RS3 is just trying to reach endgame ASAP.
That's why you'll be playing other games in a year or so but I'll still be playing OSRS for the rest of my life getting that 99. It's not a race, it's a journey.
Both games are great. I maxed in rs3 twice (one time with an ironmen) and got baseline 90s in osrs. I enjoy both for different reasons.
i personally cant see the point of playing osrs i played back then i remeber watching the combat hit a wall, then they added the extra 0 couple more years passed and all the wiggle room that the extra digit gave combat was already used up, so it was time for the eoc, and anyone who dosent think so, must not remeber how pvp was literallying bs one tick everything boom dead no skill just a flip of a coin when specing
@@soulsreaper7145 check out what does combat is now, you might see a different game than you are expecting
Can’t really even compare them. Osrs is in its own genre of MMOs, while rs3 is more of a traditional mmo of today. It’s just a preference, trying to compare them to decide which game is better, is a pathetic attempt at creating controversy.
truly an enlightened take only the master of mirrors can have.
Finally a smart comment. Yes rs3 is trying to be like other mmos but the others mmos their trying to copy are better so just go play those. However osrs is basically now its own style or brand of mmo now. I can't think of any game like it on the market that exist inless its a game older then osrs itself but even those were subpar. OSRS is unique and i tell you what compared to all the copy paste stuff that i see getting made unique to me is great. Comparing both the games are stupid however one is donig better than the other but is that really a bad thing?
I switch between both a lot, but pretty much the only reason I go back to RS3 is to see my clanmates. In OSRS, the fact that it takes longer to level means that you feel as if you're progressing for more of the time you play. This is important to me, since I felt a lot of my drive to play disappear once I 99ed combat related skills in RS3. Then there's the fact that RS3 is built on top of so much dead content, like minigames, much of which is still alive and well in OSRS. Now, I was already established when they came out in OSRS, but it definitely feels like it's easier fund a bond in OSRS than it is in RS3 and that's as someone who never learned Zulrah and still hasn't done Dragon Slayer 2.
Run energy isn’t really an issue once you have decent agility/graceful and stams/poh/diaries. Makes for a miserable early/mid game tho
In rs3 its ONLY an issue at low agil, and even then you can rest to gain run energy faster
@@666narutomanfan in other words the game is made for babies
@@seterseter9352 yes, because a game that makes getting from point A to point B slightly less miserable is obviously a game made for babies. Do you elitist clowns even hear how you sound sometimes? "Gahhh! Its not REAL runescape unless you're grinding miserably for hours on end." "Everyone knows the REAL runescape is actually meant to be torture walking to the bank because a game that makes running to your objective slightly easier is for BABIES!" You sound like you're 12 dude lmao.
2012 was the best year hands down.
2005 for me
My favorite year for Runescape too
07 for me lol but 12 wasn't to bad either
2011. 2012 brought the Squeal of Fortune and EOC, which marked the end of Runescape.
in my eyes, the main problem I have, isnt the amount of exp, that's fair, my problem stems, with the best XP methods ending at about 70 of each skill in osrs, whereas in rs3 the scaling slowly goes up ... till 99, it feels concise.
example: best hunter xp is in the arc, with perfect juju potions and a lot of other things to do, but you only unlock it at level 96.
being stuck doing the same method from 70 to 99 is the problem I have identified in osrs. And what I like about rs3.
Notably, there are many things I enjoy a lot in osrs anyways, and Im still working on my account there, recently reaching 2k total on my ironman, for instance I like that they added a bunch of new courses(agi) in osrs, whereas in rs3 its just the same things that existed since priff.
Priff isnt the best course, anachronia is
@@liamator96 ahh yes, well i maxed about 5 years ago, so i wasnt aware, but also anachronia came out a long time after priff (5 years) but yeah.
I can't do RS3 simply for the microtransactions. It's not the practice of microtransactions in RS3 that I find egregious, it's their pervasiveness in game developers these days. I don't support microtransactions across gaming and RS3 is one of those games with microtransactions.
Nice video. Kind of a hit or miss topic and you pulled it off really well. Good job
I feel like someone should introduce this guy to world of Warcraft. Seems more his play style.
Yep
Not really true. i've played RS since 2004 and wow since 2006 i believe. Stopped playing wow seriously at cataclysm, but never really stopped Runescape. Wow is way too repetitive tbh. You only have questing, raiding or pvp at max level. That's it. Especially the last few expansions, it's always the same damn thing. You spend weeks grinding high level gear? Well screw you when the next expansion hits, it's a full reset and you can start all over again. Fuck that! Reputation your grinded means nothing, gear is basically throw away. I really hate that aspect. RS3 has so much more to offer and your progress is never lost unlike that from wow. Skilling is a joke in wow compared to Runescape (either game). Also, RS has so many more playmodes. Ironman, lvl 3 skiller (not even remotely possible in WoW) At times i restart playing wow but quit after a couple of months. I'm always drawn back to the complexity and variaty that RS has to offer.
J DB there’s also mythic plus and pvp. For the casuals there’s still mog runs and mount farming. There’s not than enough to do in the end game, just people don’t like trying to push content imo
@@Mikkelzu my point is, it's always circling back to raiding. Whether it's solo or not. You don't have that aspect in Runescape and i find that quite appealing.
The only thing I like about osrs is that it feels more comfortable to me. I have tried getting into RS3 a few times, and each time I log in I feel bombed by popups, the last time I tried to play last year I had 4 popups I had to get through, daily stuff, and them wanting me to buy keys and a whole bunch of other stuff.
I find that osrs has so much stuff that even after playing almost 30 days of game time now, so around 1000 hours I still don't know all the content in the game, and rs3 has even more skills, cosmetic stuff, etc that it's just overwhelming for me to learn it all unless I only played rs3 for a job.
I think both games have disadvantages and advantages and it's cool that we have two versions of the game that different people can enjoy.
I expected a nuanced analysis, all I got was a half assed excuse. Both games have their merits and should be treated as entirely separate games. Play whatever makes you happy.
I respect your opinion but many of the points you've made are simply not true, and I suspect this is because you never really took the time to play old school. Run energy isnt an issue with higher agility, graceful outfit. Slayer is so complex, you have choice to do normal monsters, boss tasks, wilderness slayer with risk of pk encounters, but you can counter pk. You haven't even touched raiding, and all the mechanics that involves, skilling bosses. The beauty of old school is you have content that is relevant at almost all levels whereas in rs3 most good content is locked at endgame, rs3 players are always complaining for new stuff to do. You haven't even touched on the empty feel of rs3 mid and low level zones, the stupid overrides, people running around looking like fairies you cant even see the armor. Leveling is so easy, you dont feel like it's an accomplishment. No one respects u unless u have complitionist Cape. In osrs you can have so many types of accounts that are all fulfilling because content is relevant.
Run energy is an issue with full graceful and high ability. Just go check how many staminas you have banked right now lol
slayer in rs3 is the same as osrs. osrs end game is a joke with runelite and other clients that make that game so easy anybody can play it. rs3 mid to low level zones are just as empty as everywhere else because the game is so big with so much content everyone is spread out doing a million different things. leveling is easy in osrs as well theres thousands of videos showing just that. "no one respects you unless you have completionist cape" thats just a lie. .....??????
@@TheArmin The staminas i have right now i use for end game content such as theatre of blood. This is because run is actually a resource u have to think about and use wisely in osrs. You can have all the gear, all the damage but forget a simple stamina pot and plank to verzik. Thats engaging to me, because it makes u plan ahead. Thats just good game design, you cant expect ur character to be sprinting around a game with all that armor and weight on. THINK ABOUT IT. but when i do normal activities without my armor weighing me down, i dont use a single dose of stamina.
@@TriHard7 if the game is so big and so full of content why is it full of high level players complaining about nothing to do? leveling is not easy on osrs, in fact its brutal. There are no double xp weekends, beach shenanigans, all that protean bullshit, guild bonuses, weeklies, dailies. You get none of that, you plan ahead and spend ur money and time wisely, thats why when u get that 99 its actually something. You get a 99 on rs3 you just go meh. You know its true. im not even going to touch that complitionist comment, if u truly believe that then youre really out of touch
@svenm sandity To each their own right? honestly, i have nothing against someone preffering rs3, i was just commenting on the fact that this video was a bit one sided. thats all
Started playing rs in 2006 and I’ve tried playing RS3 maybe 3 times and idk I can’t get into it.
Some of us are just built different. OSRS all the way
dont u remeber back in the day when combat hit a wall and pvp was just straight up one hitting ppl with korasi or cannon. and combat was completly maxed to with nex being the last bosss they could ever make because anything harder would be impossible with the current system. with all them memories i cant see the point of playing osrs which no matter how many incrimimental or very nuisance updates where a item is literally good for one monster, and now there going through the game and nerfing everytrhing so that they can but somthing else where that item was. osrs is already looking at its combat death and since non of u will allow them to do anyting really good to fix it theres gonna be alot of nerfed items coming in ur future
@@soulsreaper7145 In RS3 almost everything is devalued filled with mtx and cosmetics so I don't see playing a game that has no sense of achievement. Power creep exists in all MMOs, infllation exists in all MMOs especially RS3.
So OSRS is dying while RS3 is dying too and has little reason to play even now. I choose OSRS.
4:00 I wanted that imp dead. Thank you
yeah fuck imps. litter fuckers deserve to die
"in runescape 3 each slayer mob has its own unique mechanics, for some you might need use a certain weapon or combat style" same could be said for osrs...
Yea that made no sense. For os he said that’s a negative thing but for whatever reason on rs3 it’s a good thing??? Make up your mind
@@CutTheCrapAndKissMe everyone know slayer is the best skill
ya i laughed at this. How does that make killing mob on rs3 any less repetitive than osrs.
When it comes to the difference imo ... rs3 has micro transactions and osrs has gold farmers. There go get the best quality of life a home teleport gets you
Make and Ironman and thats micro transactions gone
@@thedanni4545 hey let’s play an MMO with a free market!!!! Oh even better let’s spend thousands of hours not being able to trade ! WOW
Iron men ruined osrs.
@@SosaiOyama I mean isn't that the whole point of ironmen? completing the game with out "help" from other people? dont see how that ruins the game experience? and your complaint includes MTX - i mean just dont or again play ironman then you wont get it, just giving you a sulution to your problem :)
@@thedanni4545 no iron men culture is the problem. They don’t deserve updates or anything geared towards them. They should not be taken into mind because if you want to zuck yourself by PLAYING AN MMO FREE MARKET GAME then you should stay a zuck. and Lbs people don’t don’t respect your account. You’ll be called crazy and forgotten. Have fun pking or any group activity. What’s a split.... hey lemme swig a Stam o wait.... Tbh this became an iron man rant. No one cares that you zucked yourself lol.
@@SosaiOyama why do you hate Ironmen so much? They literally don't affect you, that's kind of the main part about ironman
I enjoy the grind of osrs and complexities of the tick system if I want to do huge boss fights with better mechanics I just play on WoW
Honestly this is a good point. PvM is undoubtedly better in RS3 than OSRS so if you're going to be playing RS and want to pursue Bosses, RS3 is the "right" choice, but the nature of Runescape in general means larger budget AAA MMORPGs offer a significantly better experience if that's what you're after. I feel like there has to be a really weird mix of nostalgia and desire for challenging content to want to dedicate that time to RS3 instead of something like WoW or FFXIV.
(I say this as someone currently working on my RS3 Account, btw)
I enjoy old school runescape for almost all the points you made against it. I really like the grind. I think the pvp is fine as is. I like the old school mobile app much more than the mobile app for rs3. I have gotten 50 mil mining xp on osrs making a lot of gp. Getting those 99's on osrs feel all the more rewarding after I have gotten them, because I know it took a lot of effort to get it. I think osrs is for people who like delaying the gratification more. I play both rs3 and osrs. If you were to say some of the points you made to hard core osrs players you would get roasted for all the EZ scape points you talked about. I just love that I can just relax watch youtube/netflix while I train on osrs the most.
Eh i got 99 in old school and rs3 feels the same to me lol. But I've been playing almost 20 years now so I can see the silver lining in both
So do you actually like watching netflix, not osrs?
@@tane I like both
The majority of OSRS players aren’t completionists and won’t ever be. It’s a bad attitude or metric from which to think about the game. I really don’t see the appeal of spending hours upon hours purely arbitrarily. That grinding makes the end result more satisfying is an argument that could be made for halving the XP gain rate in OSRS, which would be boring as fuck.
The most common reason I see people disliking OSRS is because of the ‘grinds’ as you mentioned, and there’s a reason most of it’s player base are much older than the average new age MMO. We grew up with games being grindy, plowing a lot of hours into something to get achievements.
Nowadays, most people want things fast, and at their fingertips - not just for gaming, for most things in life. Games like RS3 appeal so much more to new players because they don’t appreciate what it was like originally before all this technology and everything being available with very little patience or effort. That’s not a negative comment to make on those who choose to play RS3, just an observation. Either way, we’re all having fun so who really cares.
You're 100% right. I dont see the point of having everything dumbed down, easier, not much effort, everybody gets rewarded to the max all the time etc, it just devalues a lot of content youd otherwise work to complete.
I tried rs3 about a year ago and I hated a lot of things in it, the big ones being micro transactions and how confusing it is.
@Dakota Terry it might cost $30,000 to buy a max character, but it costs $30 to halve the cost of 96 herb, along with getting a ton of gp and other exp. I'd say that's pay to win.
1. The high xp rates and ubiquitous lamps devalue skills. It is nothing big of an achievement to get max cape in rs3 whereas it is a very high achievement in osrs.
2.Predatory Mtx in rs3 cheapens the game a whole lot, giving it a greedy money-squeezing mobile game vibe. You are always reminded of the mtx, every day you are told to buy more with real money. You cannot even disable the "warm reminder" from popping up ever again. Updates are centered around more lamps promotion, whereas in osrs almost every update is real solid content or improvement.
3. Cosmetic overrides removes the dilemma decision of either looking fashionable and good but sacrificing armor stats or having good stats but no fashionshape. It is one important charm in RuneScape. If you are feeling fancy you do need to sacrifice stats, but in rs3 you can just override everything with whatever you like. No more hard decision or sacrifice.
4. Pets and cosmetics look nauseating. Perhaps you don't need me to remind you of how obnoxious the drake pets are in annoying players with their big flapping wings that so many on reddit ask to remove it or at least let us hide other players'. Certain cosmetics also no longer have the RuneScape charm style, but instead looks very unnatural and out of place.
5. Manual eoc required for efficient high end bossing. Some players do not really want to keep pressing keys for every basic ability for an entire bossing hour just to get high enough dps. It is extremely annoying and exhaustive to have to press keys for things like that nonstop. Using revo will almost always make you much slower and while you can still get the kill, you are expelled from the elitist pvm community.
6. Very importantly, RS3 feels like a job to me. Players have so many dailies and repeatables to do that just finishing them to get the maximum gain already takes over an hour. There has a feeling of compulsion to do these, it's overall just a chore. I am left with very little time to actually freely do things not on the daily routine, to hang out randomly and chill without having to worry about efficiency scape. This chore intensive nature of the game makes it much less attractive than OSRS. I feel like going for a job on rs3 but on osrs I really feel like I'm playing a game and relaxing.
However, I have to say that rs3 does have really good content in terms of quests and boss mechanics. I really enjoy the complex ability combos in combat and the deeper boss mechanics design. And many of the quests are of very high quality that I feel like being in a real adventure. Osrs relies too much on the tick system and mouse clicking implementation, which isn't ideal for someone who wants to focus on having complex mechanics of bosses.
I think it'd be a waste if rs3 does die out considering it really isn't doing too well in attractive player count and all the good bossing and quest content will be forgotten by people.
About the 5 point, I agreed 100%, they should change revolution to become more efficient and smooth.
Without revolution I would had quitted rs3 for osrs without any doubt.
@@AnonymousAnonposter I don't know what they can do about it though. It is natural that players who input more effort (repeatedly pressing keys in this case) should be rewarded more than those who spent less effort. But one suggestion to enhance the combat complexity is to release more abilities of various level entries, with more special effects like higher damage when used right after something, tankier bonus in some combination, etc. And lengthen the ability bar. Also perhaps let us connect two ability bars so the rotation flows through the two bars to give more ability usage variety. In hopes that clever planning of revolution bar can mitigate the punishment from not pressing keys repeatedly.
A Friend has the world record for fastest max, and he did it entirely using MTX.
Sam 1. Neither is relay that high of an accomplishment but a measure of time investment one just take a bit longer.
2. Don’t spend money.
3. Who cares about looking good when you need performance? I one who is serious will ever take anything but the best in that situation. Everyone ends up looking the same and that’s ducking boring. Let people make cool looking outfits and dominations of useless level 30 armor.
4. True fuck drakes.
5. Less effort = less efficiency. If that wasn’t the case the integrity of the game would be lost, especially for Ironmen.
6. It’s a game. If you don’t have fun doing something then don’t do it. Dailies aren’t required they just help you progress faster. Just so the ones you like doing and duck the rest.
If you think OSRS combat relies to much on the tick system you haven’t looked into 4ticking bosses in RS3 which is the only way to duo or trio some bosses.
You look like a player focused on efficiency. The sort of player I left osrs for. I feel like people don't know how to enjoy game anymore I could have maxxed on rs3 like 12 maybe even 18 months ago and I didn't because instead of training stuff like RC or FM I decided to boss here and there, do some clues, kill some revs for log, do some questing and didn't really trained any of the skills I haven't finished. I could do every daily and do some vendor reselling everyday but that's not fun so why would I bother it's a game I should have fun with it.
bossing in old school gets pretty in depth once you get later in the game and even though i agree the game is not at deep as rs3 it uses the mechanics it does have in a very interesting way, in the outside it doesnt seem like much but once you get into it you realize its pretty hard and like no other game right now. Also its ok to like rs3 cuz its easier I mean playing oldschool is kinda like a challenge but its honestly not that bad and once you get 99 it actually feels like an achievement.
osrs isnt really a challenge its a grind i mean it isnt hard to slash sandcrabs or do nightmare zone for months. bossing is 100% harder in rs3 and its not even close . leveling in rs3 isnt hard or grindy tho. and mtx in rs3 is kinda lame
This was actually a pretty good video.
I'm an OSRS player myself, been playing since November 2020 and have no intention to play RS3 but I can see where you're coming from. The grind in OSRS truly is real and it can drag on quite a lot, so it's completely understandable that some people just prefer a more fast paced leveling system. I've been grinding my Magic XP for about 5 months and am Lvl89 now, it's probably gonna take me another 6 or 7 months to get to 99 but honestly that's fine with me. Watching my XP grow slowly but surely is part of the journey for me and I've honestly been having the time of my life with OSRS. While I personally disagree with a lot of your reasons to play RS3 over OSRS, I'm glad this video exists because I always hear nothing but bad things about RS3 so it's nice to hear that people are able to like the game or even just give it the benefit of the doubt.
Good luck to you on all your adventures, my friend.
True but as a man i value my life and prime years...
@@johnfisher8401 still dosent mean its not distracted and i get distracted very easily and even when i gonna stabilize my life productivity and organizing to normal level and money i probably gonna find a lot better things to do any way runescape or any mmo will ever do with one or 2 h max a day...
I had been debating which version of Runescape to play for... actual years at this point. I finally said "eh fuck it" and tried out Runescape 3. At first I was pretty mixed on it. I didn't really like the treasure hunter thing, I didn't really like the new combat system, but I liked everything else about it. Then I found out two things: Legacy Mode and that you can just... completely ignore Treasure Hunter keys. It's a very small pop up when you first log in and I'm fairly sure there's some way to disable the pop up. Legacy Mode meanwhile turns combat back to OSRS style and that's what I'm looking for with *this* MMO. I go to Runescape to vibe and relax, not worry about the most optimal abilities to have in my toolbar. I also like that if I wanted to go back to regular combat I can with just a click of a button, so it's not like it's a permanent decision.
Edit: did some experimenting and you can also just use the treasure hunter keys for Oddments, which can be used on cosmetic items and pets, so that's what I'll be using those on from now on.
Your video has inspired me to at least try RS3. I played RS back in the day in 08. Left after dungeoneering became a thing. Recently picked up again 1 year ago as an Ironman in osrs. It’s been cool but definitely very grindy but that’s part of the fun. Sometimes it’s TOO much though. I’m considering Ironman on RS3. We’ll see how it goes.
Try to find a clan to join so you will have people keeping you company and helping you out if you have questions
Id like to write a few paragraphs on this in hopes that you'll read all of it and take it into consideration. I am a 15 year veteran of RS so my roots are in osrs no doubt. Osrs will always be a special game to me. That being saif, don't believe the elitists man. Rs3 is a wonderful game that is still runescape in so many ways and in many ways, it's the better game. While rs3 is definately less grindy than osrs.. it is STILL very much a grind. It's not so much "easyscape" as it is "convenientscape." People make it seem like you can max your account in a week and that's bullshit. Unless you're spending thousands of dollars on the game and even then it would take some time.. thats not going to happen. All bonus experience does is adds a fixed amount of xp to the base experience rate and makes it slightly faster.. FOR EXAMPLE, if you were mining a rune rock and received 150xp per ore, the bonus experience will make it so you get 215xp per ore. Meaning you still have to mine the rune rock... just less of them to achieve your goals. And once the bonus xp runs out, you're back to base xp rates. It's not like you spend 100 dollars and boom, 99 slayer. And the elitists make it seem like that's how treasure hunter works and it's waaay wrong. There are FAR more methods to training a skill in rs3 as well. More fun methods, but also the same classic methods that you're used to. But because of these changes, you can enjoy more of the content without it feeling like a full time job. I'm certain you will enjoy it once you get past the slight learning curve which will only take about a week. If you don't enjoy the combat updates (which once you learn them actually add a lot of fun and challenge to the game) But if you don't like them, you can always play on a legacy server and enjoy the Old-school combat. The interface is FULLY customisable to your preference, but there is also the legacy interface which gives all the content and enjoyment of rs3 while still maintaining the UI simplicity of osrs. So I hope you read this far and I hope this gives you some insight into what a lot of the "issues" elitist osrs players complain about with rs3 and I hope it helps you make an informed decision. But definately give it a chance man and if you need a clan or some friends to help you get started, reply to this and you can add me whenever you eventually try it out. Best of luck and have a good day man.
@@dasku6161 thanks man. Im glad you liked it.
I've tried to give rs3 a chance but everytime I log in I am just overwhelmed by the menu and pop ups. I like the simplicity of osrs and the grind but wish I could get into the skilling and pvm of rs3 too as I've got a few friends who play rs3.
I admit it took a few days for me to get used to the interface. It can become overwhelming specially if you are not used to modern MMOS.
Give it some time, what I did was train Slayer and started to use the interface more and more with time. Now after two years I'm finally using multiple combat bars and switches. It's a patience thing.
honestly, I just looked up a good revolution bar and use that
But if you're really adamant about the combat being over bearing, do what I did and play RS3 for a few months using the legend interface and legend combat style. It basically gives you the combat and look of OSRS but you get the increase in exp and to play with people you know
Have you try play Medivia? Is an old school mmorpg too
Jsut use legacy interface
Aright 2 hot takes
1: the slower overall movement speed in old school makes the game world feel bigger than it actually is. In rs3 this is undermined by lodestones and resting. Lodestones remove the need to run between towns, and resting means that you can run around towns as much as you like with minimal waiting. The combined effect is that the space between towns need not even exists and the towns themselves feel small and cramped. This effect takes place too in old school, but gradually, as your character unlocks teleports and agility items. This means that while you start playing and are still learning the world map, the world feels larger, and fuller.
2: graphical cohesion makes osrs more visually appealing. While rs3 looks wayyy better when you stay in recently developed areas, it won't be long before you find areas that haven't been touched in years. Some areas In rs3 look almost identical to the same area in osrs, save for higher res textures and lighting tweaks. This undermines the cases visual cohesion, it doesn't feel like one consistent world. Like with the last point, osrs has this problem too, areas developed since osrs was launched have a habit of actually looking nice. However, the overall visual style is consistent enough for the world to feel less like a patchwork.
Old School botscape is a joke.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 there are plenty of cons and valid criticisms for RS3 but going to the GE and your chat box not instantly getting filled with gambling or cape selling advertisements is a huge value add.
I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of OSRS active accounts are bots or gold farmers.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 you’re so salty lmao. Actual manchild.
There’s something about the tedious and lack of quality of life stuff that makes it so appealing. I can’t really describe why but it’s similar to monster hunter where the old games it use to take forever to farm materials and perform certain actions. If you forgot an item or to eat your meal you just had to deal it. Now it’s just drop into the map, bee-line to the monster and kill it.
It’s still a fun game but it’s missing its other half that broke up the gameplay. Games today are so afraid to lose your interest that they streamline everything into an action game.
Yeah. I know what you mean. Its like the higher risk gives you a lot of More reward. Its like Witz Dark Souls. Bestieg the Game Feels Great. In this Game had a Easy Mode ist wouldn‘t be Good.
As someone who plays both OSRS and RS3 I wanna state my main pros and cons of both games. They're other reasons but these are the big ones
RS3 pro: Really fun and interactive combat system (once one get into it, does take a while but after a few minutes and hours of messing around it really is just better.)
RS3 pro: So many different activities to do. There's always something to do, especially late game. I'm maxed on rs3 and still got so much to do. Daily runs, slayer, bossing, D&Ds, ports, pof, even skilling is still worth doing. (Compared to osrs where once you get a 99 you just stop unless you pet hunt or 200m grind)
RS3 con: MTX, the way they handle these along with promotions definitely ruin the game. It feels like a mobile game with extra steps when it comes to MTX which sucks and really devalues 99s and even 120s. Even devalues combat since you can win 'lucky' godswords and armor.
Rs3 con: Economy is just awful to mess with. I'm not an ironman but I play like one pretty much, trying to work out a deal with somebody at the ge, bank sells, even flipping on the GE is pretty annoying and usually just a waste of time, unless you got millions upon millions / billions and know how to flip it's a waste of time. Might as well play Ironman on rs3 if you're considering giving it a chance.
Rs3 con: Community, it's split apart so much and unless you join a clan which is pretty hard to find a good one you're going to spend most of your time alone. They're lots of awesome clans out there but a lot of them have high level requirements to join that you'll probably never join one, you'll end up in a 'fun and everyone is allowed clan' instead which doesn't do any events really.
OSRS pro: Community, there's nothing else needed to be said. Full of life, most of the people will hear you out and have a conversation with you in game, even the mods/devs on OSRS are fantastic. Community gets to vote for content, much better.
OSRS pro: Everything feels earned. You spend a lot of time but that's how runescape started out as, a fun time investment game that we all love.
OSRS pro: No powercreep. *cough new t99 game breaking amulet. yay 1 second corp kill...*
OSRS con: No powercreep. I say this in a way as, once you get the gear you need, that's it. It doesn't take much to get to the t70/75 armor/weapons these days if you know what you're doing. I know the community doesn't want powercreep, but I hope the devs really figure out something to spice up the meta of the game.
OSRS con: late game is dull, there's not much to do besides boss and complete collection logs. Skilling is pretty much worthless since all you need to do is slayer or boss. The game is way to focused on pvm late game. Which is fun and all but after tons of hours invested in it, normal players get bored.
Overall, I do say RS3 is the more fun game to play but it's also a broken game that can be weird.
Then there's OSRS which is still fun to play but it's just so much more simplistic that it can get boring after a while and you can get burned out easier in.
On another note, I just got firemaking pet :o woohoo
On the MTX con (I dislike MTX just to be clear): the lucky items are all low tier stuff now since really the goal in RS3 is to get at least t90 stuff. They don't really matter. Also someone getting them doesn't devalue some else's grind for the regular versions of said items. The person who grinded for the items as a boss drop has a big advantage over the lucky MTX user too, because they have some boss log progress.
Edit: gratz on the pet!
Mtx really affects no one. It help the people that don't have irl cash with other player buying bonds. So it's more or less helpful. The TH affects only the person doing it. And of you think it devalues your goals and such. Of you knew the amount of money someone would need to spend you would puke... To just max. No. Mtx only affect those that use it. Simply don't use it if you don't like it. No one forces you to regardless of daily login popups.
Personally I don't use TH. I do buy bonds with gp for runecoins and such but that's just all cosmetics and no realtime affect what so ever.
One of the few good comments so far
I actually enjoy both versions. But magic is not nearly as effective as ranged and melee for bossing in OSRS. I love that magic is strong and viable in RS3, since magic is my favorite combat style.
I have played both. I prefer osrs over Rs3 because of the nostalgic feeling of the original game. Sorta like driving manual over driving with an automatic.
I grew up on OSRS and as soon as rs3 came out, I tried it and I hated it because it wasn't what I was used to. Keep in mind, OSRS was the only mmorpg I had played at the time. I haven't played since 2012. Now after seeing how the genre has evolved, I can't see myself playing OSRS again. RS3 is full of QoL improvements and many things that were missing in OSRS, RS3 has. I'm actually going to get back into runescape when RS3 comes to mobile on June 17th as I don't have a computer currently and I am looking forward to getting into it. Majority of why OSRS being so loved still is because many like me grew up with it. Its the nostalgia. But trying to compare it to modern MMOS, it doesn't hold up. Thats why they made the change. I can't wait to play RS3 because I am not as narrow minded as I once was and I can see how much of an improved game it is over OSRS now.
OSRS seems like they made things take longer than they should To make the content last longer but RS3 has so much content they don’t need to drag things out, you can just go and explore content and have fun. I like OSRS and it’s rewarding but I just have more fun playing RS3
thanks for explaining this , I am new to MMORPG genre and my friend introduced me to OSRS and RS3 , now he plays both but I asked which I should play and he wasnt sure so I started to look up on youtube that what is the main differences in the game and your video really helped me pick one of them , thank you.
I picked RS3 if you are curious , I can't grind a lot since I play like 2 hours a day and really liked the style of RS3
My kid sister has friends who play OSRS. They mock me for playing RS3 until I remind them that I was actually there for RS2. I played RS2 and enjoyed it and I enjoy RS3 now. Don’t see a point beyond nostalgia for going back to OSRS since I already did it.
The age gap also likely has a large factor too. OSRS just demands a lot more of your time. If you have the time to play it, I’m sure you’ll love OSRS. Kids just have more free time. And a lot of the older people playing OSRS probably have part-time jobs or no job at all.
But for the aged-up population of people who did play RS2 and have jobs now, they really don’t have the time for the grind of OSRS. Even the MTX nature plays into that by letting the player choose to spend additional money to skip certain parts of the game that they would rather not spend their free time doing.
Despite the fact that Silverhawk Boots/Feathers are 100% a p2w feature, nobody really complains about it existing because they’re easily accessible and Agility is generally considered one of the worst skills to actively train. And If you don’t like the p2w elements, then just play Ironman.
I don’t really plan on playing OSRS because I don’t really have the time for it. But I’m glad its there for people who do have the time to play it, because it is simply a game that rewards players with more time. If I were a kid today, I’d probably play OSRS too.
So you’re a casual player who wants the game to be easier, less engaging. You don’t want to walk places. You want to get 99 in a skill without having to work that hard. They never intended for people to get 99s but the fact that you can is part of why RuneScape was so magical back then.
I hate to say it, but you definitely just don’t “get” it and that’s totally fine. But to act like we are elitists for enjoying the grind is uncalled for. The game doesn’t have a massive, dedicated playerbase for no reason. People wouldn’t just sit there and click to max if the game wasn’t good
This is coming from someone who had what I remember as 200 or so real time days logged by 2010 in what is now called rs3... I'm reading a lot of comments about rs3 being easier. To an extent yes things are a little more convenient, but in no means easier and that's why it doesn't have people play. The quests, gameplay, everything is simply better. But it is too overwhelming and the combat isn't simple enough to understand. Lets not understate the fact some people can't handle a game that actually takes more skill. I got my levels a long time before it became easy to do so. I still enjoy rs3 better and have been getting back into it the best I can. The older I get the more I realize I have hobbies, a career, many life things that don't let me spend months on end fishing or woodcutting like I used to.
“There’s no complex boss mechanics in old school, I was only 85 combat and never actually killed any bosses but that’s not the point”
LvL 85 he probably did count draynor, which needs a stake to kill = no complex boss mechanics
TBF, most combat mechanics are easy.
As mentioned before, a lot of points made about things that are avoidable in OSRS that you seem to simply don’t know about/haven’t accessed
This dude sure doesnt know about you can store your tools when farming in OSRS lmaiooo
Or that staminas exist
Yeah guy got 1200 total and said he gave the game a good try.
@@hamel7791 good try for a low tier content yhea 😅
@@raphaelkk1 "I cut maple logs, thats enough, lets make a vid!"
I don’t understand the complaint about XP rates in the game. Maxing in RS3 isn’t something that is an accomplishment anymore, the XP rates are definitely higher because most people are grinding for 120s or 200M xp in skills.
Here's how I think of it. Runescape 3 is actually Runescape proper. It's literally the same Runescape from 2001 that's been continually upgraded for 20 years. So Runescape 3 is the same as the current version of Minecraft Java. OSRS is more like playing Minecraft 1.7.0 or something like that. Runescape Classic would be like finding an old Mincraft Alpha build.
I have played RS in general since classic. While I do favor rs3 heavily, I really enjoyed starting again on osrs and getting about 1700 total with a few 99s. This being said my rs3 account has completionist cape and I really love pet/title hunting, which is why I favor rs3.
tldr: Both games are great, nothing wrong with enjoying either of them or just one of them.
I like both games but favour RS3, too. More people need to accept that both games have their strong points and their weak points.
A lot of the points you made against osrs seems to come from a place of not knowing pretty much. However from what i've heard it's more the grindiness you have a problem with, which is fair. Personally i enjoy the combat style of timing, switches and movement of osrs, but it's not for everyone. Seems to me like you chose the right game for your preferances.
While RS3 pretty much blame the players for there own promotion and ban them lol
@@DarkRa citation required or sit cause ive NEVER heard of this and ive been playing rs since 2002 so :P
@@inuyasha989 lol it just happened. With the key promotion
@@inuyasha989 you get keys and because of the promotion if you spin and used it you were called using a bug
@@inuyasha989 obviously you didn't play enough. Jagex rs3 is a joke. They put out key hunter and had promotional stack. It was jagex and isn't of say we are sorry and discontinue the promotion they just ban over 4000 people. Alot of the ban were reverse but it still not the play fault for a non bug but just stupid rs3 promotion stacking. They didn't even apologize.
The fact that parts of oldschool arent fun is actually an important part of what made the game as a whole work back in the day. The unfun skills were very profitable and provided good unlocks. Unfortunately the drop tables these days in oldschool have lead to many of those skills being devalued to the point where they are just an annoying grind you have to do to complete quests. It is important that some parts of oldschool are "work" because the content unlock reward system in oldschool is tremendously satisfying as a result, I would like to see drop tables adjusted to bring some value back to fabrication skills and the highest tiers from the gathering skills.
A OSRS player could boss in RS3 but there’s no way a RS3 player would be able to get the inferno cape
nah dude thats not at all true, i play both games and rs3 bosses are verry hard. like yeah inferno is extremely difficult aswell but in rs3 there are so much more mechanics and you have to watch out for so many more things then in osrs. I like osrs more but rs3 bosses are very hard
How many inferno capes do you have then
@@mjlivesforever1 0, how many telos 100% enraged kills have you got then?
Qol of rs3 is amazing. Although the menus and options are pretty outrageous. Tried helping a friend get into the game n it took like an hour just to set up his action bar and combat settings.
Low mobility was a big deal for me in osrs so im currently grinding hallowed sepulchre to 99 agility.. And with a ring of endurance + graceful I will be running till im maxed out
house with pool and stamina potions. also explorer ring 4 and i dont run out of energy
never heard of a stamina potion?
@@calummcleod9791 Waste of money and inventory space. Only time I ever needed a stamina after I reached max run restore was in blast furnace
@@calummcleod9791 I came here for this exact fucking comment, thank you. jfc its like nobody here adapted with the game's updates. I cant even remember the last time i actually walked somewhere in OSRS.
That’s the beauty of it the run meter does suck on old-school RuneScape but there’s ways to grind that and make that easier and that’s the appeal of RuneScape there’s always one more level one more scale one more monster to keep you going
Toolbelt and coin pouch would be a nice QoL addition to osrs.
And I also agree that osrs is not that friendly with low-mid lvl content, but once you get around all high diary tasks done, the game becomes much more enjoyable and soulful than RS3
That's true to an extent. The only issue is the game is so grindy that people who csnt put 100+ hours a week into the game won't get to experience any of that content for a few years and by then they will most likely lose interest entirely.
I feel like I would really enjoy RS3.. If OSRS and WoW didn't exist.
In old school RuneScape you actually get punished if you forget items or don’t use specific potions for run energer
the way that half the people in the comments feel victimized by OP not liking a game lol
They gotta justify spending a high % of their entire life clicking a rock. Only the most skilled and elite gamers can handle playing a game as hard and complex as Runescape...at least that is what they like to tell themselves :P
I think it's has more to do with the fact that the guy put up a very weak argument in the video and was clearly very biased when talking about OS vs Rs3. He constantly repeated himself about the bossing experience and said he "didn't mind the microtransactions" which is just sad because you literally can't even log in to the game without seeing the micro transactions page or a discount on TH keys. I have both osrs and Rs3 accounts but they are 2 different games by a large margin. Log into any world on rs3 and like 80% of the world is literally maxed or just sit at the GE with their protean logs and Bars that they got for free, go adventure into the world and you notice immediately how dead rs3 is. Seriously go do some quests in al Kharid , run around anywhere past the ge/varrock, its a ghost town.
@@highlanderholyfield855 argument? Bias? It was this mans opinion. There is no argument, and bias is inherent. He prefers rs3 for his specific preferences as a player, and you people took his opinion as an attack and something that needs to be disproven when theres nothing to disprove.
@@hmad898 there's a difference between sharing an educated opinion, and detailing why, and what he is doing, which is sharing an uneducated opinion that misrepresents the thing he's saying he doesn't like. The whole point of this video was to cater to rs3 players need to feel like their game is superior.
@@janitorizamped the whole point of this video was to explain why op plays rs3 instead of osrs, which is because of the lower grind compared to osrs (which is true) and the better bossing experience (which is also true).
Not even a minute into the video and your first error was that you have only put in less than 100 hours into the game. Osrs is a saturated yet well nurished child that takes years to fully appreciate let alone achieve all the set goals. I think you get my point. . .
Why does NOBODY talk about botting in OSRS? That's the ONE reason I quit.
both pvm and pvp are bot plagued. Most people quit only the miserable ones are left playing it.
forgetting your tools when farming shouldnt be an issue. every farming patch has a tool leprechaun that stores all the tools
hence why the toolbelt makes it better.
@@link4585 he clearly said he was having to run back to the bank when forgetting his tools. The tool leprechaun is essentially a bank for tools, he just didnt use it. I'm not debating whether or not its more convenient to have a tool belt, bc obviously having one is better. All I'm saying is he was ignorant to the tools around him and his point about forgetting his tools is generally invalid
RS117 is working on a new graphics update for osrs. He's creating a 2008-2010 plugin for runelite.
I do agree though, they need at least some musicians scattered around the world to refill your run energy and toolbelt would be nice too. But im not sure about the lodestone network, makes it too easy to travel and makes teleports kinda meaningless.
Musicians would be fine, as most players wouldn’t even use them, only really newer players. But there’s no way they would add the tool belt. A majority of the playerbase would see it as easyscape.
@@mrfate1132 it really doesn't make THAT much of a difference tho
Crux crucifix a lot of people would disagree, and say it’s actually a big change. Besides, how hard is it to remember to bring a spade?
@@mrfate1132 it's not the fact of being hard, but sometimes it would be great to have that extra Inv slot
Crux crucifix no doubt, but hence easy scape. You don’t NEED 3 extra spaces on farming runs, but it would be nice. For a lot of people inventory management is part of the game, and that’s a very big change to a core mechanic. There’s even an entire game mode based around it. How many ultimate ironman would that upset versus how many it would please? It’s just not a necessary change
Ever since I got into ESO for a few years I haven’t been able to fully enjoy OSRS. I was purely mobile OSRS for a few years and played a lot of Elder Scrolls Online and ARPG games. Getting back into RuneScape on a computer has made me want to play RS3 much more than OSRS. Old school is nostalgic and a nice challenge in the sense of a grind. Most of my friends play Ironman and do SO MUCH content (jokes they literally only do TOA 80% of the time).
The tick system just isn’t enough for me brain after playing full-fledged MMO/RPG games. The combat is just so boring compared to RS3.
QOL updates are slowly making OSRS more bearable, but not yet appealing enough to stick with.
Lodestones, rework run, and the fang have just made OSRS a zombie plague. Anyone who PVP’s I get playing OSRS. Any other reason I hear why people think OSRS is better ends up being BS. Don’t like micro transactions that give you random rewards? Don’t worry, everyone just buys gold on OSRS. Most of the things that my OSRS buddies say they hate about RS3 are the exact things they vote to bring into OSRS 😂
Where do OS players think 75% of their content has come from? It comes from RS3 lol.
Coming back after 6 years and see ALL the QOL and content additions to OSRS that came straight from RS3 is hilarious. My GIM friends get cringe when I point out everything they like is RS3-transferred content, yet they choose denial lmao. OSRS is for sticking it to your stupid younger self who couldn’t figure out the game.
I am an avid osrs player, and would easily say it is my prefered game. That being said, I do like rs3 for what it is, except for the combat system and the economy. Which is why I ended up playing a 10hp ironman.
I would also like to add that osrs really does need rs3, if not just for the mtx it is super clear that osrs learns from rs3, a lot of the things osrs did right was a concept taken from rs3, rs3 has the ability to just throw things into the game that osrs can learn and addapt to its own style.
Joe morgan mmm no it’s not it’s super inflated
I fully respect this man's opinion. I have well over 6k hours in OSRS (player since 2004, up to 2014), and quit OSRS a few years after playing off and on post EOC update. I returned to RS3 today, and my GOD it's a completely different experience.
Damn, OSRS players are really salty for some reason...
OSRS aka HATEn ELITISM
RS3 aka LOVE, COMPASSION AND COMRADEHISM
@@thiagoklock5064 it's the other way around ;)
Thiago Klock yup. I've noticed that many OSRS players have elitist mentalities which is why they prefer OSRS. They consider it more prestigious to have maxed skills there because you basically have to be unemployed to do that since it doesn't have nearly as many bxp sources as rs3 and then on top of that the exp/h rates are usually lower. But hey, I'd rather have a job and 99 stats then just have 99 stats so RS3 all the way.
I'll play my easyscape you play your unemployedscape
I play osrs and some people is dick heads and don’t like to try new shit.... I enjoy rs3 very much osrs gets boring after a while
duke605 your argument is that rs3 is easier 🤣 great argument man
I don't like how RS3 removed the meaning of sprint energy, I wish they'd add a rest option instead.
edit: apparently i can't write. i meant to say that i wish they kept sprint drain like it's in old school, so resting would be worth doing.
They have a rest option.
@@miratamamo9331 oh my fuck i'm stupid, i worded that poorly
For now I'm playing RS3 because honestly I'm having more fun on it. But if I see anything cool added to OSRS, then I'll hop on that. That's the benefit of playing both.
I just might meke osrs quick build for pk to see how much money i cen make and play rs 3 main way
I dip into osrs for leagues, great little dose of nostalgia. Main rs3 though. cant be bothered with the osrs grind