What They Didn't Teach You About the Civil War
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- What do you know about the Civil War? Everyone knows the familiar images: soldiers in Union blue versus troops in Confederate gray, the Emancipation Proclamation, the triumphant end of slavery. But there’s something schools don’t teach about the Civil War: it was also America’s greatest left-wing revolution. Professor Matt Karp explains.
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CITATIONS:
Matt Karp, “The Mass Politics of Antislavery,” Catalyst (Summer 2019): catalyst-journal.com/vol3/no2...
Matt Karp, “Antislavery Wasn’t Popular-Until It Was,” Jacobin, May 11, 2019: www.jacobinmag.com/2019/05/an...
Gillian Brockell, “You know who was into Karl Marx? No, not AOC. Abraham Lincoln,” The Washington Post, July 27, 2019: www.washingtonpost.com/histor...
Karl Marx, “Address of the International Working Men's Association to Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States of America,” January 28, 1865: www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
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Can you invite Roland Martin Harris on The Gravel Institute ?
I wouldn't say you exist to counter anything. Just be a channel with good and true content and the countering will come naturally.
I agree with you. 😎
Quoting Karl Marx. Change your Colors to Red it will suit you.
@Kayden "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."
"A German journalist named Karl Marx"
Based.
"What i said is true... from a certain point of view."
I even dare say....breadpilled.
@@Tuned_Rockets You could say in this case the left had "the higher ground".
@@taka4059 *tingles*
@Politische Memes damn thats based af thanks for the info didnt know that
"But... but states rights"
"Which state rights?"
"Right to own slaves"
I've had friends who are otherwise good people deny this and it just blows my mind.
It seems like campaigning on "states rights" was merely a trojan horse for slavery.
Don’t forget that the south only used state rights when it suited them, they still wanted the federal government to capture escaped slaves.
Also "states rights" was only mentioned as a cause for a secession years after the war, it's not in any speeches or secession documents
I've known some of these Confederate apologists. Of course, they were huge racists, but almost no one actually admits to it. Literally every argument that they had that it wasn't about slavery could have the phrase "to own slaves" at added to the end of it.
"John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave
John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave
John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave
But his soul goes marching on"
And it will keep marching until every person owns the full value of their labor.
That and how about the full value of their time. Time is more valuable.
As long as people don't end up being paid for their effort and ingenuity, equality has a chance.
1% in control of all branches of government.
"When/where have I heard that before?"
- yesterday, everywhere.
It's the same 1%..look up slave ship owners, look who made the rum ( northern state) to trade for slaves, who auctioned them to that 1%. Same as today. 👍👍
@@nickv7824 I hate being blamed for the things that the same 1% did 400 years ago, just cause I share the same skin color.
@@nickv7824 shhhhh we’re not supposed to talk about them.
It was the Democrats then, it's the Democrats now. Not much has changed. The 1% backs Democrats and RINOs and hate Trump.
@@TavishCaryMusic Imagine thinking demos or repubs or trump cares about you
"In 1864 a German journalist named Karl Marx-"
Doesn't sound like a big fish, I bet we won't hear about that guy on this channel again.
Why would we? The guy had virtually no impact on history or politics 🙂.
/s
"German"
@@pureheroin9902 what is that supposed to mean? Marx was absolutely German.
@@oskaraltman I guess he's referring to Marx's Jewish heritage. Maybe with antisemitic undertones
Who is this Marx man you speak of
I've never heard of this man
"Clutches Communist Manifesto"
Never heard of him
I was about to ask, “Why this dude looking like a history teacher?”
He is a paid actor
@@frd8798 I mean, that is arguably true, since I'm sure he is being paid for this, and you could technically call this an "acting" role (I'd more call it a "presenting role, but w/e) so, sure he's a paid actor. He's also a professor of history. So are you trying to make some kind of point here?
@@tylerhanson404 He's strictly a drama llama in my book. His characterization of the Reconstruction Era sent me running for the barf bag. And calling Marx a "journalist" is a gross over-simplification.
@@randywright9571 What specifically makes him a drama llama? And why does it make you puke? He made a historical claim, and backed it up with evidence to support his claim. History isn't static, and there will always be new ways of thinking about the past. Point taken with Marx; but, its easy to cherry pick specific points from any argument to immediately invalidate the whole thing.
@@randywright9571 I mean we all know who Marx was, it ties it into the larger point of the video. At the time his occupation was newspaper editor.
And frankly, reconstruction was handled terribly. They should have went as hard on them as they did on Nazi Germany, would've solved future geneations a lot of struggles and suffering, many of which continue to this day.
my ancestor fought for the Union in the war. He wrote letters to his wife. Apparently he didn't think about slavery much until he was deployed to Louisiana and saw the slave plantations with his own eyes. He saw it was so horrible, and mentioned he and his fellow soldiers would shoot all the hounds on a plantation, since these were the dogs that tracked escaped slaves.
This is a terrific video. It recontextualized familiar information into a narrative that provides understanding and insight. Well done, ladies and gentlemen.
I always knew that people didn’t use the “confederate flag we see today” but I didn’t know it was used by dissenting Dixiecrats in 1948 when Harry Truman included civil rights in the party’s platform
@Nick Arjomand I don't understand the point about bringing up higher slave populations in Brazil and the Caribbeans? What value does that add in the context of American slavery?
@Nick Arjomand Paine was a real one. But most of the Founding Fathers were statesmen that benefited from the status quo and though they talked against it didn’t did much to change public perception or abolish it. Because they were concerned for their own socioeconomic status (Washington, Jefferson), feared the breaking of the Union by going against the system of the Southern elites, and were believers in racial supremacy even though they may have personally disliked slavery. They as the leaders of the country did not even try to change public perception on slavery and that it was illiberal and counterproductive to a supposedly liberal democratic Republic. Thomas Paine however was an ardent abolitionist, and died alone and a pariah, because he was genuinely radical liberal and did not fear going against the status quo in the name of liberty. Paine also suggested the first American social welfare programs, and reform of land ownership. Paine was an inspiration to subsequent socialist and anarchist movements. And though Jefferson the man was highly flawed and contradictory, his ideals were likewise inspirational to subsequent leftist thought. Jefferson was second only to Paine in faith in the common man, and belief in democratic institutions. He was one of the more democratic Founders.
@Nick Arjomand the video never makes any claim as to who had more slaves, the US or Brazil/Central America, so I don’t see how you can claim it’s “factually wrong”
@Nick Arjomand What he said was there were more enslaved people than ever before in the US Brazil and Cuba. Don't know where you get the Jamaica reference.
@Nick Arjomand time stamp?
Fun fact: Abraham Lincoln was pen pals with Marx
Intriguing. Source of claim?
@@templecreations2351 you are on the internet
Holy shit I knew they wrote a few letters but damn my dude
It was probably hard for Lincoln, Marx was extremely snarky.
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Very interesting & informative! This has really helped to broaden my understanding of the economic & social elements behind this struggle. Thank you for sharing & wishing you much success!
A fact I didn't know until recently: Abraham Lincoln and Karl Marx were contemporaries, and wrote to eachother.
Don't mind me just engaging over here
I was entergaged! But seriously thank you for making this.
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Another banger. Loving the animations! Great work, Gravel Gang.
We love you! Shoot us an email at henry@gravelinstitute.org and let's chat about collaborating.
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When is the next video on the rise of fascism coming up? The 1st one was great.
Need more of this!!!
liked. Love your stuff
I'm not even American, and wow. never looked at this like that
Because they didn't how this way at school.
the US Government has tried its best to make everyone forget
As a wise man once said: "Sometimes you overlook things, because they are too big."
Just look at quotes of great american patriots or founder. They are way closer to the left than right.
Marx even wrote Lincoln and said him.what a based guy he is
@@lickificki True. Even Republican Teddy Roosevelt would be seen as a dangerous leftie by the present conservative standards. It makes you think where it went wrong:
A) During the ris of the Soviet Union, when the USA started to suffer from Red Scare, and tried to counterweight anything that smelled a bit left-wing;
B) When Reagan took office, and brought his conservatism with him;
C) During the Clinton years, when Newt Gingrich and his friends took over the Republican Party against that crazy, Vietnam-dodging weed-smoking hippie in the White House.
Maybe that is a nice subject for a future vid, since I reallty don't know the answer.
The whole “state’s rights” argument falls apart when you point out that confederate states were REQUIRED to have legalized slavery in order to remain part of the Confederacy. Didn’t care so much for state’s rights then, did they?
Thanks for the info!
As the usual retort to “states rights” goes, “states rights to do what?”
Well, they did care for state's rights....
They just meant the state's rights to have slavery...
xSeppuku This 100%. Their constitution was largely borrowed from the Union with a few lines added or changed. One of those lines was the _requirement_ of _race based_ slavery. Ignorant, deluded, and idiotic Republicans and conservatives either aren't aware or refuse to believe that the _sole_ purpose of the Confederacy was to protect racial hierarchies. "States' rights", like every other talking point from Republicans, is a trivial lie that they immediately contradict when convenient.
Confederate statues were mostly erected during the 1920s and 1960s when blacks tried to make strides for civil rights. When minorities say "can we please be treated fairly", right wingers react with violence and hate. Then right wingers blame the violence on the minorities. That's why conservatives blame Obama for "creating racism." Their mental gymnastics are astounding and frequently hinder progress in this country.
The states rights argument falls apart with the CSA constitution. It’s real similar to the US Constitution but adds Slavery. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Confederate_States
still the best video you guys have ever produced, fantastic stuff
Great video!! I enjoyed the animation.
Cue the triggered “heritage not hate” right-wingers.....
If it were really heritage over hatred we wouldn't see the Confederate flag on Upstate NY
I'd be down for "heritage, not hate" if it were genuine. Unfortunately, for most who spout that, it really, really isn't.
@@garymaritnez7 and also why use the at the time obscure Navy jack instead of the real Confederate flag, I am sure it has nothing to do with segregationist Dixiecrats that used the flag
Pennsylvania would have zero Confederate flags if it were heritage, not hate.
Their heritage is hate.
Who’s doing the animation because they’re doing a phenomenal job.
Dude fr, it’s 50x better than PragerU’s shitty animations lol
is it one guy?! it just says at the end that the sole animator is Reid Hildebrand. that's incredible work
Reid Hildebrand! reidhildebrand.com/
@@dimitrijejovanovich6488 the people in PragerU look like they're on road sides.
Outstanding video!
This is pretty eye opening as a lot of this was barely glance over in history class
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Doing my part to conform the natural social dynamic to what the proprieters of this channel deem acceptable. All hail Alphabet Stock.
I'm here to spark some bickering argument that draws a lot of impressions. Like uh Trotsky was wrong.
Replying for algorithm
I got this in my recommended but I wonder if it’s gonna hit the right wingers feed.
Thank You so much sir for posting this video, THANK YOU.
Another thing apparently not taught is Lincoln's party or the party of the Confederacy.
Jim Crow was the Democratic Party.
The Republican Party (at least in general terms) had never supported racism. They started the abolishionist movements (opposed by Democrats) and fought Jim Crow laws (opposes by Democrats).
@@isaacwest276 yet which party does the KKK vote for now?
@@Zephyrs009 Biden was good friends with KKK member Robert Byrd. Biden also favoured school segregation and wrote that criminal act that has imprisoned blacks at a much higher rate ever since late 1800s south
@@Zephyrs009 Larry bird the grand wizard endorsed hilary....biden is a segregationist and created mass incarceration
That's not even the whole story, in reconstruction there were many radical black politicians who were able to be elected to high office with working class coalitions that crossed racial lines in the south. The only the way the plantation owners were able to stop them was with racist violence.
I love the work the Gravel Institute is doing hope to see more videos and more of Matt Karp.
good ol' coup'de'tat of wilmington NC
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That’s how Jim Crow started!
The comment section is exactly where i hoped to find these conversations, not because I think the video doesn't say enough, but to provide direction for future content. Bite sized videos were the intent. There are many significant factors, including the united daughters of confederacy. They fucking literally forced history to be written incorrectly in school books. This is one of the MAIN reasons southern racist say the war was about states rights and not owning people. www.facingsouth.org/2019/04/twisted-sources-how-confederate-propaganda-ended-souths-schoolbooks
"they pointed out that slave holders were just 1% of the population but somehow controlled every branch of government."
That cut deep.
@@dogo7177 spammer 🤣
Currently 1% of American wealthest controll the government now
he is wrong though it was actually 30% of people in the south owned slaves, its kinda funny his number is lower than the number pushed by lost causers though this video is just as bad in terms of lying about what actually happened lol.
I would think that the 1% represented the the largest and most powerful plantation owners.
Aight you guys had me going for a second in the beginning there, good one.
GREAT WORK
Are you telling me that all racist racisms weren’t destroyed in the civil war like my history teacher said?
Haha...cute! Yeah, that about sums up 'murican education
@@dogo7177 - Hey, haven't you figured out yet that it's the 'ruling elites' that are THE PARASITES
Edit: fuckin' spell check
@@dogo7177 linear correlation between being a conservative and not being depressed because you are blind to the world's problems
Slavery is still legal. It’s called the prison industrial complex.
@@angelgjr1999 - You don't even have to look that far. Minimum wage jobs are basically slavery. If you can only afford to eat, clothe n shelter yourself, that was provided by slave owners. Hell, they even provided medical care.
This is the kind of history I wish I had learned in Texas and Kentucky.
And now we are all slaves to the debt/wage-slave system.
You and so many people are forgetting a huge element of the American Civil War.
CHRISTIANITY
WATCH OUT. You'll be numbered with the Right Wingers!!!!! This propagandist can't believe the tripe he's pushing.
@@43pace honey, please, Im atheist. I just know history
It's definitely an important part of the story. There were Christian motivations on both sides of the war, and I think it's definitely interesting to explore that in detail. I think it might have distracted from the central point to focus too much on that dimension in this video.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
Is this a quote from Karl Marx? Did a socialist write this? Nope, it was *Abraham Lincoln* who said this!
feel like i see you in the comments section to every video
@@Xx_BoogieBomber_xX
Yeah, I'm active on Breadtube.
@@frocco7125 good to hear, gotta get that engagement up
"did a socialist write this?" Yes a socialist named abraham lincoln
OH M GOODNESS, Haha... I love this!!!
John Brown's body lies a mouldering in the grave, but his soul goes marching on.
Brown was a maniac, but he really became an abolitionist household name by all of the things he did to seriously freak the fuck out of the slave-holders.
John Brown did NOTHING wrong
@@lost_ronzo yes, he stopped
@@lost_ronzo I didn't say anything about him being wrong (or it wasn't made clear in my response)
HE CAPTURED HARPER'S FERRY WITH HIS 19 MEN SO FEW
AND FRIGHTENED OLE' VIRGINY TILL SHE TREMBLED THROUGH AND THROUGH
THEY HUNG HIM AS A TRAITOR THEY THEMSELVES THE TRAITOR CREW
HIS SOUL GOES MARCHING ON!!!
I felt betrayed by society when i had to learn about The Tulsa massacre from The Watchmen tv series. Fuck school.
Never thought about it that way
"The Civil War was America's greatest left wing revolution"
its greatest left wing revolution *so far*
@@leoostigaard120 I bet his pen pal Karl Marx would hate that
What about Roosevelt's New Deal?
@@leoostigaard120 I’m pro gun, and a communist, the term libertarian was stolen from leftist by shitty ancaps in the United States so he’s not some don’t tread on me bootlicker.
@@leoostigaard120 and Lincoln would laugh at the sad excuse of a party that is the GOP they’re a long way from their respectable roots these days
@@leoostigaard120 leftists today are pro gun, you’re thinking of liberals.
"... was also America's biggest ever left-wing revolution." PragerU: eye twitches uncontrollably
PragerU had some really harsh things to say about reconstruction, Jim Crow, and the Democrats that supported it.
@@jackflack9004 The Democrats support reconstruction AND Jim Crow Laws? Now that's peak anti-centrism
@@WiloPolis03 what's anti-centrism?
Obviously their comeback is going to be some shit about the Republican party freeing the slaves while ignoring changes that happened to the party since then.
@@WiloPolis03 Do you mean enlightened centrism?
Brilliant. KEEP IT UP!
Cool and history is always interesting.
"These capitalists generally work harmoniously and in concert to fleece the people"
- Abraham Lincoln
Comrade Lincoln
@Pan-Britannic Syndicalist Socialistquod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln1/1:92?rgn=div1;view=fulltext
The quote is taken from this speech by Abraham Lincoln.
@Pan-Britannic Syndicalist Socialist Carey and Marx worked at the same editorial, the New York Tribune, and while they had their disagreements they were in the same realm politically and had much discourse, and Carey clearly had great respect for Marx despite his disagreements and general aversion to socialism.
You're right in that Carey believed class conflict to be caused by the English (and before that, by the state), and that harmony was possible or inevitable in a happy capitalist system. Marx writes to Engels on Carey:
"In order to escape the effects of bourgeois industry, for which he makes England responsible, he resorts like a true Yankee to hastening this development in America by artificial means. His opposition to England, moreover, throws him into Sismondian praise of petty bourgeois ways in Switzerland, Germany, China, etc."
Carey wasn't nearly so far left as Marx: it might be best to call him a progressive for his time. The two wanted many of the same things, as despite Marx using the term Sismondian of Carey disparagingly, well... Simply look at the writings of Sismondi. Even a modern conservative would consider him a leftist.
Slavery, however, was one thing Marx and Carey agreed on. In that same letter to Engels, Marx talked positively about Carey's comparing of "the former English slavery in Jamaica, etc., and the Negro slavery of the United States."
So, while Carey was opposed to socialism, and would have likely stood on the side of capitalists in any kind of socialist revolution, he was extremely progressive and incorporated the ideas of leftists into his philosophy. He simply thought that over centralization and the English were to blame for class conflict as opposed to it being inherent, but still supported many (at the time) leftist policies, and was a protectionist.
No Change There! 🤬
@pop sickles they weren't exactly Marxist. Proto Marxist but still socialist.
The Right says the Civil War was about States’ Rights. And for the South, it was. It was about the State’s Right to keep Slavery.
Nice Video
Dispelling right-wing disinformation and lies is essential for democracy
So some Republicans do something and because it was in working class people's interests y'all take the W. What about Jim Crow, the KKK, anti bussing, the crime act, red lining, we just gonna act like that wasn't the Democratic left. Y'all even think black people don't have smart phones computers and can't get ID's. But your not a bunch of racist I'm sure.
@@420Tecknique notice he completely skipped over WHO AND WHY Jim Crow Laws were enacted AND why it took another HUNDRED YEARS to have a Civil Rights Movement that enabled Blacks the same Freedoms as Whites.
@@SGTJDerek yeah also noticed he said Republican a few times while he was taking credit on behalf of the left for their accomplishments but he conspicuously never said democrat when he mentioned those rich white people who were against the abolishonist movement
It is essential for pushing leftists lies and communism on Americans, which is to destroy democracy. Right Wing disinformation should be dispelled, but the left propagates lies about real history, not just the right wing disinformation.
@@imkluu I think it's funny how the top guy implied that either leftist disinformation is fine or that it doesn't exist
Something I love about this project is they get actual academic speakers. Unlike pragerU, the guests are academics first and showmen second.
It's always fun to see James Woods snort a yard then yell about how awful The New Deal is.
Guys like Wolf are pseudoacademic, for Žižek I do have some respect as he admits, freemarket is the best invention of humanity. Chomsky is respected as linguist, but as a economist/geopolitics is terrible wrong.
PragarU has a lot of academics speaking for them... Jordan Peterson and many others.
@@fpxy00 I thought you guys liked facts lol, keep drinking the partisan kool-aid
@@fpxy00 Your putting Jordan Peterson in the same sentence as Noam Chomsky? Lol keep smoking that crack.
@@fpxy00 Jordan Peterson is a showman first and an academic second. That's been the case for a long time.
I love how there's a consistent visual theme in these videos: The color blue is always used to represent freedom, liberty or the oppressed classes of society.
And orange is always used to represent the ruling class or, otherwise, oppression.
Wonder how they decided on orange? How peculiar, must be a coincidence....
It is a bit bad choice in my opinion. Everywhere in the world red is left, white is right and blue is centrist. America has messed up political spectrum and this is not even a genuine tradition. Republicans - red, democrat - blue thing happened because it was used for electoral maps on TV in 2000 election.
@@mikeandyholloway I think it result of applying 'pastelization' to what otherwise would be red.
@@mikeandyholloway I mean they could also just be choosing two opposing colors on the color wheel (orange/blue). It's a common contrasting color scheme (just google "teal orange movie poster" and you'll see numerous examples)
@@minskghoul "white is right"
I'm sure that has no deeper implications whatsoever
Thank you.
That was solid!
Commenting for the algorithm
Me too!
Replying to create engagement
Imagine quoting Karl Marx not even trying to hide it anymore.
engaged? engaged.
@@bryansolberg7309 Yes, pretty much all UA-cam channel communities do it now.
The title is perfect, people get sucked in thinking it’s about how the confederates were actually really cool and get shown actual arguments with basis unlike PragerU
Bingo, Gravel is catching on.
For what it's worth, PragerU did a video on the Civil War and they actually said it was just strictly about slavery and not "state's rights" like many right wingers claim it was. PragerU is still horrible and awful but credit where credit is due
Clickbait done right.
Uhm... I mean done left.
@@TheMakdaddy0311 Yeah that video shocked me when I watched it the first time. I was like "Damn, shots fired by Prager U"
@@TheMakdaddy0311 But that’s the thing, that was part of PragerU’s push to say that the Democratic Party is still the same party today as it was during Jim Crow and the Civil War. So now, instead of Republicans having to do mental gymnastics to convince themselves that the Civil War wasn’t really about slavery, they can just blame everything on Democrats and conflate the previous and modern Democratic Parties, while entirely ignoring the demographic that was actually the root of the problem (hint hint the South).
Well stated. Thank you.
Good video
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I'd avoid saying the a word by the way I've heard that it's less heavily weighted
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So true!
RequiestaDeSilencia true
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You missed a point that would have reinforced your broader point: most of the southern opposition to the confederacy was from poor and middle class whites. One of my ancestors, a German immigrant who had only been in America about 10 years, left South Carolina to fight for the union, and was branded a traitor and later hanged by the KKK for that.
@@dogo7177 Reported for anti-Semitism. Next time, don't lean into the whole international Jewish conspiracy bit. At least pretend not to be a fucking Nazi.
That is quite the family legacy
@@dogo7177 amazing argument. sexy women in confederate attire. mind is changed
Your ancestor was awesome!
There were also a lot of newly arrived poor immigrants that also signed up to fight for the Union for the promise of citizenship. One of my ancestors (also a German immigrant) was one of them. I don't know if he knew much of what the war was about - he most likely didn't know much English when he signed up. He ended up settling in Iowa after the war, although he fought in the Illinois Cavalry.
I did my first book report on Frederic Douglas in grade 2
I really like how you had Jackson on the $20 winking at the plantation owner, he was a monster.
and even though he was so loved by people at the time, he threw the country into a serious economic crisis and many people starved. The next guy got blamed for it even though they weren't his policies that caused it. hmmmm sounds familiar...
Because he fought the national Banks
@@night6724 That was unfortunately a very common belief among abolitionists at the time.
We can’t forget that we do have to look at these historical figures in the time that they lived.
Was Lincoln a white supremacist?
The answer is very probably yes.
Does that make the emancipation proclamation any less valid?
No, it does not, because for all his issues that we see in the modern world, we also must see that he did what was necessary to save the Union, and live up to the promises made in the Declaration of Independence, and The Constitution of the United States.
Judging any historical figure from a modern perspective is really easy to do, and it’s easy to claim that they were a bigot, but all to often that is the strategy used the most by those who wish to rewrite history to suit their aims.
The best type of historiography, is the type that takes all factors into consideration, and not only tells the story, but also includes the context of the time.
@@night6724 Lincoln thought there would problems, and there was.
Jackson was based.
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The union was not fighting against slavery. The union was fighting to preserve the Union. They would have been fine with the south staying slave states so long as they stayed in the United States.
The Confederacy claimed that there was a threat to their slave holdings, even though Lincoln stated repeatedly he had no intentions of attacking slavery while in office, and they committed treason out of their own false martyr complex, something they still have a tendency towards today (Jan 6th).
The north was simply motivated by the idea of holding the county together.
Emancipation was an afterthought, or to be more precise, a means towards the eventual goal of winning the war.
In many respects we could even say that the Union was fighting to extend slavery to _all_ Americans, under a socialist or communist system.
Many of the founders of the Republican party were immigrants who had come to the United States from Europe (particularly Germany) after the failed socialist revolutions of 1848. They despised the slaves more than slavery itself, as they saw them as a threat to white labor, and they did not want them migrating to the western territories because they wanted that territory for themselves. During and after the civil war they embarked on a campaign of extermination against the Indians in the western territories in order to claim that land for themselves.
However, though they won the war they lost the insurgency, and Lincoln's income tax was overturned. They were not able to reinstate the income tax until 1913, and have gradually increased the enslavement of the American people since then.
@@alanlight7740 Please don't comment on subjects you don't understand.
@@MrGreensweightHist - oh, I understand exactly what is going on.
@@alanlight7740 Nope
Allow me to demonstrate....
You said.."Union was fighting to extend slavery to all Americans, under a socialist or communist system."
Socialism is the idea of power in the hands of the workers.
The workers cannot be both empowered and slaves.
Communism is a complete lack of social class.
one cannot be a slave if there is no slave class.
If they weren’t then explain to me the Emancipation Proclamation signed in 1863 two years before the war ended.
I remember when this first aired
It's been more than a week and several neighbors that I've told about this video have found it so helpful. They already knew about the Civil War and slavery but had never connected that the slaves leaving the plantations was really a massive labor strike that also helped weaken the south further and bring about freedom for enslaved people.
@Deutsches Brot - German Bread lol why do you think they're a communist? do you even know what communism is?
@Deutsches Brot - German Bread strikes are not limited to communists...
@Deutsches Brot - German Bread oops, didnt realize you were a troll
Deutsches Brot - German Bread capitalism will not last forever, feudalism did not last forever, socialism is the future
@Deutsches Brot - German Bread I like how got "communist" form anti slavery
Republicans like erasing history.
Karl Marx worked for the Republican party
It's like their fetish or something.
@@NortheastIndiaindetails when it was good
Especially the history of how radical the Republican Party used to be.
@@NortheastIndiaindetails you should read about the southern strategy.
What a mind bending version of history.
Won a new sub
Can't wait for the PragerU response video "The Gravel Institute Is Mean And Hurt Our Feelings"
bonus points if they use the word "fee-fees."
id love to see it to see two biased channels clash, it will point out the truths in each of their claims
@Thought for Food they do cite their sources but they also might interpret it incorrectly to prove a point. They did that in one of their previous videos. And the problem is fans dont even notice because they are too busy 1. Falling for bias and 2. Being Mazed from the citation of sources
I’m so glad this channel exists, it is really needed right now
Welcome aboard! We have chips and salsa for all newcomers over there!
@@stilltmg Oh I’ve been a leftist for a long time, just felt I needed to boost the video in the algorithm a bit.
@@ironickrempt That's pretty cool. And thanks again for stopping by.
"The clash was not over slavery as a moral institution[...] The northern elite wanted economic expansion-free land, free labor, a free market, a high protective tariff for manufacturers, a bank of the United States." - Howard Zinn, A People's History of the United States
Funny how your boy Zinn said the Union soldiers were capitalists' puppets back when the South was still voting Democrat.
Slavery then, oil now. Like beads on a string, passing one improves things, only to be quickly stopped by the next center of power/corruption.
At last we hear the true american left wing. Not just the liberals, whatever that means. Thanks for that.
There are so many things that Americans don't learn about their own history during school
@Marshall Kinnaird true now the parties switched
@Marshall Kinnaird I've heard this argument from people from my small town in Nebraska, and that's just what they were told without learning about how the parties have switched political positions when it comes to race relations. From a USA today article, "Experts agree that although factions of the Democratic Party were responsible for the South's secession and the rise of the KKK, it is inaccurate to claim the party is responsible for either. The Democratic Party was undoubtedly the party of racism and white supremacy during and after the Civil War. However, it evolved throughout the late 20th century, and garnered the support of most Black voters."
@Marshall Kinnaird Look up Richard Shelby, who was elected as a Democrat and then switched to the Republican party. His politics didn't change at all and as an Alabama senator we all know what that means.
@Marshall Kinnaird I'm not sure I entirely understand what you mean by the left repealing civil rights laws in California. Can you tell me what you mean by that? I try to stay as informed as I can on political issues, but hadn't heard about this.
@Marshall Kinnaird I appreciate you linking that video to me. After watching it and reading up on the effect of affirmative action and the potential effects of ACA 5, I believe that you and I disagree on the subject. From my perspective, a merit-based system that acts "color-blind" (without affirmative action), doesn't allow for equal opportunity in our current situation. If blacks, latinos, asian americans, and whites were all on a level playing field systemically (systemic racism), then a merit-based system would be appropriate. However, the way things are done now is heavily skewed towards people with generational wealth having better outcomes than those without.
Video: The Civil War was a left-wing revolution
Me: Oh boy, here we go
Video: (Thinks that's a good thing.)
Me: Oh :)
*Subscribed*
Welcome to the Gravel Institute. We have citations, actually respected scholars and pundits, and are openly left wing.
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Welcome, first-timer. I see you've been scarred by PragerU too many times, but you can trust us.
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And proud.
Cool sound track.
Marxist/Leninist speaking here, I really appreciate videos like this for calling out the right as the oppressive bigots that they are. They actively oppress minorities and take away rights. I also appreciate the statement about prageru. We still have a long(or short depending on if society breaks down) way to go for true equality.
"In 1864, a German journalist named Karl Marx..." LOL awesome delivery - just subscribed
That’s when I clicked off the video lol
@@erinsherwood1399 but why?
@@JJ-hm9ni Afraid of reality, scared the gommunists are gonna take her daddy's coal mine away probably
@@Hakasedess b-buh, but what's gonna happen when my parents business is given to the people who work in it ???
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yet you clicked back onto the video to comment here? hmmm
“A German journalist named Karl Marx”
I see what you did there ;)
Now that is interesting. I am not at all an expert on 19th century German journalism, yet still I recognise the name. I think I once saw a statue of him when I was on holiday in Berlin.
I love this channel
I recently learned about how Lincoln was raised while growing up in Kentucky. He did not get along with his father very well. When he was young, parents were aloud to lend out their kids as labor. Lincoln's father lent him out to clear land for a neighboring farmer. This ment digging up giant tree a tumps and moving big rocks. The farmer would pay the money to the father and Lincoln never got anything for his labor. This left Lincoln bitter. When he became president he felt that labor should be compensated and not exploited. So I guess we have Lincoln's father to thank for motivating Lincoln to free all slaves.
They really just CTRL + Z 'd progress, huh..
At that bit I was expecting them to talk about the southern movements against reconstruction and the vehement push to rewrite the narrative of the civil war
@@Emily-ce7hd I'm assuming the downside of only 5 minutes, I'm sure they'll have to cover "education" at some point hopefully, a lot!
Emily unfortunately there’s only so much you can say in 5 minutes, but I’m still happy they even acknowledged how there’s still work to be done.
Historically literate, non-toxic content on UA-cam with a fat like:dislike ratio... 2020 isn’t all that bad I see :)
You love to see it
Not necessarily historically literate certainly more than other channels with the same intentions however.
the ratio went sideways after the CRT theory fight? it's only 4 to one now...
What no talks about Lincoln having a possibility of having a phone call with a samurai?!
good video
The algorithm will never be satiated
Here's some food
Blessed be the algorithm
1% controlling every branch of government ?
really makes me think...
Largest upward transfer of wealth happened recently too in the "Cares" Act
So when is the Gravel vs. Praeger debate??? We are all waiting
It wouldn't be a debate. Prager does present any debatable topics. In order to defeat them, you need to investigate every misleading claim slightly better.
This is the kind of presentation you get when you mix some historical facts with modern political ideological spin (in this case, neo-Marxism) - a bizarre revisionist depiction of history chock-full of misinformation. It strikes me as utterly shocking that a faculty member from a prestigious university like Princeton would resort to mixing scholarship with political spin. The fact that he cited 2 of his own publications from 2019, another publication from 2019, and a publication by Karl Marx from 1865 as his historical references pertaining to the American Civil War is hilarious!
Early in the war when slaves fled to the Union armies they were routinely returned to their plantations. This policy came from the top - Lincoln repeatedly tried to strike deals with Davis and others in the Confederate leadership to get them to agree to not secede in return for being allowed to keep slavery. Lincoln used emancipation primarily as a war tactic designed to starve the south of labor and goods; it wasn't about political activism. When asked why they volunteered many Union non-commissioned soldiers gave reasons relating to north-south grievances that were unrelated to slavery. What was pressuring the Antebellum plantation business model the most was the northern industrial revolution capitalist business model, which was much more efficient. Capitalism, more than anything else, ended slavery in the western world.
Okay a couple things here all of the deals that Lincoln tried to do with Jefferson Davis were before the war even began. In which they refused to agree to. While its true that the Emancipation Proclamation was a war tactic. It doesn't take away from the antislavery sentiment from Lincoln and the North as a whole. So yeah you missed a few spots.
what did you expect? they can never create anything good. the losers need to continually revise, reeducate. if only they would just reevaluate.
I’d be interested in looking into the Union armies returning slaves to the plantations. Do you recommend any specific sources?
Just leaving a comment to boost the algorithm. More people need to see this
hell yeah, responding to you to satisfy the algorithm
Yeppers
don’t mind me, just engaging for the algorithm
Me too
I just finished a history class and I actually did learn about a lot of this, surprisingly.
One of the main things that stuck with me was the debate between black educator Booker T. Washington and black sociologist W.E.B. Du Bois in the late 19th century. (This isn't actually about the Civil War, it happened after, but it's still related) Washington encouraged African Americans to endure discrimination and segregation while building up a reputation as honest people. In other words, a slow, passive approach to equality. Du Bois denounced this tactic, saying that it would just lead to more oppression. He favored a much quicker, more demanding route.
I was honestly really proud of my school for teaching me about this, and I found it really fascinating. Similar arguments about social justice are still happening today. Some people favor a slow, passive route, while others say we need to demand full equality now.
Booker said that economic empowerment through learning a good trade was important as a first step.. He was born a slave, and advocated successfully in the South during difficult times. I would have liked to see Du Bois survive down there. It was said that he couldn't deal socially with sitting down to dinner with the average black family. He was a great writer
Gravel should be a mandatory watch for Long Island Parents
So I won't lie, this was my first experience with the Gravel Institute. Y'all/It just popped up on my "recommended" and I saw the title of the vid and honestly thought that it was "PragerU but with Blue". My initial suspicions were initially confirmed due to the style in which the video was made, but one the speaking actually happened I was surprised and releived. Keep up the good work. -Sophomore Military HIstory Major
the bio literally reads as the blue counter to pragerU.
Good work? He hides the fact that the leftwing democrats were the ones fighting to keep slavery. It was the republican rightwing who fought to free the slaves, and technically, that was done mainly to rally the northern states to continue the war to keep the nation whole rather than allowing the nation to divide. The real issue that started the war was not the slavery, but rather that the south wanted the right to choose for themselves whether to keep slaves, while the north wanted to ban it across all the states at the federal level, in essence, it was a question of whether the US was to be an empire of many nations or a nation of many provinces. Slavery was just the issue that many felt strongly enough about to actually go to war over it.
Additionally, the only reason the declaration of independence did not mention the injustice of slavery was that two colonies would refuse to agree to that and they all prioritized the declaration being "unanimous" which was felt to be a requirement for successfully breaking away from british rule, as without it, the british would just play the colonies against each other and they'd fail. This issue was basically the source of many problems until the civil war finally resolved it, at least on the level of the highest principles of law. Naturally it took a long time for everything to follow suit, and yes we are still not quite there yet, but we are a lot closer than many believe.
@@hikarihitomi7706 you ignore that the republicans were the leftwing in that era and the switzeroo of political wing positions between the republicans and the democrats happend later in history...
@@EmilReiko Um, no. Democrats say unity, but they have always, and even today, continue to pursue divisive actions. Just look at how Biden said unity, but then not only does nothing to unite the left and right but actually makes the divide worse. Democratic unity has always been dedicated to the removal of others rather than tolerating others, despite claims to the contrary. Republicans on the other hand have always been more accepting of alternative views and more willing to work with those that have very different views and beliefs and strive for unity by inclusion. Now look at the civil war, Republicans fought to keep the union whole despite not everyone believing the same thing, and the south fought to excise those who believed differently from themselves. The only differences between then and now is that our current civil war is fought with culture and can't be clearly divided by geography. It is notable however, that cities tend towards Democratic and rural tends towards Republican, which suggests that lifestyle requirements, at least in part, impact what values people have. Rural life is harder and finding support is harder and everyone tends to know everyone they deal with, while in cities most interactions happen with strangers and you can also be more independent easier.
@@hikarihitomi7706 looooooool dude
I hope you've grown somewhat in the last year. I know I have.
Pissing on David Koch's grave in the best way possible.
God I can’t wait to piss on the last one’s grave.
Had to quickly google the guy cause the name didn´t ring any bells. Guy is described as philanthropist in the german wiki page. The same page which mentions the cancer medication stuff and his roll in the tea party. I had to change it. Let´s see if it stays that way xD
The 'good ol' days' We need to go back.
Karl Marx did have plans to visit the U.S. during Lincoln's 2nd term in office, but cancelled it after his assassination.
The only Karl Marx was ablt to do in the end when it came to his communications with the U.S. was write a condolence letter to his wife and children after Lincoln's assissination.
Also, Gravel. One note:
Pay attention to messaging especially on points like the left actually supporting emancipation. REALLY draw home the point of why conservatism is antithetical to that and also give concrete examples, like Abraham Lincoln exchanging letters with Karl Marx, where Marx congratulated him on the emancipation of the slaves and how it was a massive victory for the proletariat (people).
I really hope they make a video about the southern switch. So many conservatives associate Democrats with slavery and the KKK, yet they either don't know about the party realignments, or outright refute it.
@@beancheesedip8337 this this this this this.
No one ever wants to talk about dixiecrats moving to the Republican Party because of LBJ
@ashley k no no but Lincoln being a racist doesn't fit the narrative!!!!
Karp gets to this in the full course he teaches, he probably just didn't have time to get to it here
Why have I never heard that Lincoln and Marx talked to each other?
For years, it has been said that the "History is written by the victors," yet the Lost Cause movement has been the single most successful example of revisionism perhaps in world history. Its roots still cling to us to this day, and clearing them out is just as hard today as it was for Union Soldiers in the 1880s-1900 when they fought against the erection of pro-confederate statues.
"We Reiterate that we are opposed to the erection of monuments by the great or small upon the battlefields of Gettysburg or any other place that will in the slightest degree make glorious the deeds of those who trampled under foot the national ensign. We believe in making treason odious" - Grand Army of the Republic Newsletter, 1888.
"You know they [Confederates] do not care for history. When they erect their monument it is to honor their dead and vaunt their rebellious acts." Adjutant General J.L Shook of G.A.R Post 88, November 5th 1889.
Union might've won the civil war, but the southern ruling class won the war for control of southern state governments
If the history is being written by confederates and history is written by the victors, then?
The more I learn of this period in history, the more convinced I am that the north's win was cosmetic and the ultimate war for the country's soul was won by the slave owners and white supremacists and it's why our economy and country looks like it does today.
@@platypuspracticus Is that what you really think? If the south had won the "country's soul" then why was MLK allowed to make such an impact?
@@jackflack9004 He was monitored by the FBI and threatened with blackmail when he suggested a turn socialism and anti war. He was allowed as much freedom as was convenient for capital.
@@Gangxisiyu but he won. He died in the process, but won in the end.
Glad you brought up the 'uncompensated' emancipation....worth noting that Russia had emancipated the Serfs at roughly the same time, the huge difference being that the estates of the nobility who had held Serfs as unpaid labor for generations were also paid for their emancipation. By essentially putting a monetary value on every human life, a black market in lists of dead Serfs to submit to the central government for a bigger payout became common (Gogol satirizes this practice brilliantly in his novel Dead Souls) and it left the Empire unable to pay for the giant infrastructure investments that arguably might have postponed its bloody demise in 1917. The United States, on the other hand, undertook a series of public/private investments (The Intercontinental Railroads, The Land Grant Colleges of the Midwest) that, while imperfect, established the idea of Government as a source of benefit for ALL the people...
Someone told me only one percent of the CSA owned slaves, so I responded with 1/3 of the CSA were slaves.