I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY!! *Tombstone* First Time Watching!
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- Another Solo Kacee Movie Reaction! This is my first time watching the movie Tombstone (1993). Wyatt Earp (Kurt Russell) and his brothers, Morgan (Bill Paxton) and Virgil (Sam Elliott), have left their gunslinger ways behind them to settle down and start a business in the town of Tombstone, Arizona. While they aren't looking to find trouble, trouble soon finds them when they become targets of the ruthless Cowboy gang. Now, together with Wyatt's best friend, Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer), the brothers pick up their guns once more to restore order to a lawless land.
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The Cowboys really did exist--though I don't think they wore red sashes. They were one of the earliest forms of organized crime, but not the very first. Irish immigrants formed gangs much earlier, but out west---this was a very good example. There's a lot of good history in this movie, and some that isn't so good--overall it does well though--with a Hollywood ending regarding Wyatt and Doc tacked on.
what the hell you edit out all the michael biehn scenes
Wyatt, Earp and Maddie were never married…
One of my favorite movies
Fun fact: I found out Doc Holliday is a distant cousin. We share 10th great grandparents!
Val Kilmer not getting an Oscar nod for playing Doc Holiday is a travesty.
It's because this movie came out after Oscar Nominations happened, and was too early in the year to be considered for the next year. Had Tombstone been eligible, it's widely agreed upon Val would have won Best Supporting Actor for his work as Doc.
@@SmaugUKA That's a load of crap. Philadelphia was released just 2 days before Tombstone in 1993, and you know who won Best Actor for 1993? That's right, Tom Hanks in Philadelphia. Fact is Val Kilmer was not even nominated for an Oscar much less won one, and Tombstone had zero nominations.
You're playing revisionist history, just like the Academy Awards plays favorites. Some movies like Tombstone stand the test of time and prove themselves to be much greater than the critics or the Academy believed at the time. Tombstone was neither a huge box office hit nor critically acclaimed so naturally it received no nominations.
BTW, it certainly wasn't a travesty that Tommy Lee Jones won Best Supporting Actor that year for his work in The Fugitive.
@@jesses5463 It's well known Tombstone was not eligible. Look it up for yourself.
Agree, Val Kilmer was the best Doc Holiday ever. He was a bad a** with some bad a** lines.
@@SmaugUKA You are fake news. Tombstone came out in December of 1993 and thus was an eligible movie along with every other movie in 1993.
Every line delivery from Val Kilmer is a tiny Mona Lisa.
"whyyy Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked all over your grave" My favorite line
The real stars of the movie are the mustaches.
Did anyone else notice that when doc refuses to shake hands with the local law
Right before creek Johnson shoots the man who called him a cheat
When the gun shot rings.
Doc is the only one that doesn't react to the sound.
Horses, pedestrians, even Erp ducks for cover but doc doesn't move.
That's a bad man right there
@@samuelhecocta7246 I'll have to check it out next viewing. That would be tough to do even when you know it's coming. I almost want to say it's his best work, but that Batman film was pretty world changing so I'll have to call the Doc Holiday role his 2nd best role. His role in MacGruber is a close third.
Well said
Val kilmer should have definitely won an academy award for his performance in this movie. It was a masterpiece
Agreed. One of the best acting performance characters.
When he played doc Holiday. Unprecedented genius. 👍🏾👍🏾🌝
Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor:
1993: Gene Hackman - Unfogiven
1994: Tommy Lee Jones - The Fugitive
This movie was released in December of 1993, so was to late to even be nominated for 1993. So he would've been eligible for a 1994 Academy Award and should've been nominated. That being said, Tommy Lee Jones was pretty good also.
It was his role in The Fugitive that made me a Tommy Lee Jones fan.
@@asterix7842 did you ever see the movie with natural Born killers, that was a huge role for Tommy Lee
Doc Holiday is played by Val Kilmer, a great actor with many roles to his credit. The death scene with Doc saying "this is funny" while looking at his feet is simply recognition of his dying without his boots on, something he didn't expect. Almost every town in the west had a cemetery known as "boot hill" because most of those buried there "died with their boots on" while in a gunfight. Doc Holiday did actually die of tuberculosis in a hospital.
If one is interested in seeing Doc Holiday's grave, it is in Linwood Cemetery in Glenwood Springs, CO. It is on a hill and about a 1/2 mile hike up. We don't know exactly where in the cemetery he is buried, but there is a memorial to him erected there.
Doc Holliday had a house in Fayetteville, GA. When I was in high school, the house was in a certain location close to the town square, and everyone knew about it. I don't think it's there anymore.
Now from what I understand historically the term cowboy was a name given to guys whose job it was to tend to cows and horses. I think it was kinda derogatory cause blacks and maybe other nonwhites had that job but maybe certain titles had more than one origin as well
@@MARQUE9368 I' don't think it is a pejorative. It is still used today. "Cowboy" is for cattle ranching the equivalent to "shepherd" for sheep ranching. In ranching, a herd of cattle is allowed to roam about the land (often owned by the Bureau of Land Management, which grants licenses for this) eating the whatever grass is out there. For the rancher, it means that he only needs to provide feed for the cattle during the winter. Cowboys are hired to stay with the herd as it roams and watch over the cattle to protect them from predators or thieves, as well as to keep the herd together and make sure individual cows don't wander off.
@@MARQUE9368 The term cowboy was not originally intended to be derogatory. It was the English translation of vaquero, a Spanish term for men who tended cattle while on horseback. Later on it was understood that white men were called cowhands, and black men were called cowboys, stemming from slave days and plantations where the men, regardless of age, were called boys. In this movie, The Cowboys, or originally The Cochise County Cowboys, was nothing but a gang and they gained notoriety after killing Sheriff Wilson.
The gunfight at the OK Corral is probably the most famous gunfight in western lore. It has been depicted countless times in other movies and TV shows. The OK Corral remains a major tourist attraction in Tombstone, Arizona today.
When my Brother and his Family moved to Phoenix, I visited Tombstone. I have been there now 6 times. They do a reenactment of the Gunfight at the O. K. Corral every day. It's a good show and very accurate. Each Character has a part before the Gunfight to tell their story. You can Visit the Boot Hill Cemetery and see the graves of those killed.
Some interesting historical facts:
Wyatt and Mattie weren't officially married; she was his common law wife, meaning that they presented themselves as married without ever actually taking vows. This was also the case of his marriage to Josephine. Mattie wanted to divorce Wyatt, but despite their status, Wyatt did not "believe" in divorce and denied it. She left him anyway, and they were long estranged by the time she passed away.
Curly Bill's "murder" of Fred White was likely an accident. His firearm had a hair trigger, and as was presented in the film, discharged as he was handing them over. Fred White did not die for several days after he was shot, and believed it was a legitimate mistake on Curly Bill's part. And in spite of how Wyatt characterizes it in the film, Earp's testimony was actually part of the reason Curly Bill was acquitted, as he also believed it to be a legitimate mistake. Which is one reason he protected him from a lynch mob.
The conversation in Latin between Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo were made up of mostly common phrases, that would commonly be taught in a Catholic school (Catholic masses at the time were said entirely in Latin). As having more than an elementary-level education was uncommon at the time, it was an interesting little detail alluding to the real Doc Holliday, who was unusual among gunslingers of the time for his level of education (he was a dentist by trade).
Speaking of Holliday and Ringo, the circumstances behind Johnny Ringo's death remains unknown. The most likely explanation was that he killed himself, but alternative theories have floated around over the years. While the story of a faceoff between Holliday and Ringo is entirely apocryphal, the film does a great job at presenting the scenario in a plausible way, including the angle from which Holliday shoots and where it hits Ringo.
Thanks for filling in all the extra information. The one thing I noticed is that Johnny Ringo got one shot off. That makes the suicide scenario possible.
@@THOMMGB I'm not clear about your last statement but am assuming you meant to say that "it explains why a single bullet was fired and the hammer was still on that round" is what makes some people push the suicide theory ... i.e. "a single round was fired, and he had a single hole in his head, so he most likely killed himself.
However, contrary to those notions, the movie depicts in a great way, not only that he got hit with an upward shot, but why an alternative theory is more plausible as to WHY he only got off 1 round, and WHY it wasn't a suicide. If you read up on it, there are accounts of him being found that exactly matches the description of the scenario we see in the movie.
Update:
It also explains why there are accounts of Wyatt stating that he was the one who killed Johnny Ringo ... because he was a Marshall and was covering for Doc's use of his badge to "make it legal". He knew he couldn't beat JR, and Doc, in his covert and sneaky manner, created a situation that might not look good or be taken well ... so he returned the favor (saving his life) and covered for Doc (i.e., nobody else needed to know any different).
@@StevesFunhouse your last update doesn't make sense, doc holiday was literally legally deputized. the entire group that went along with wyatt were legally deputized nothing legal would have happened to doc
@@houseofaction Actually, I was discussing both, some things that appeared in the movie, some that didn't that I've read. Sorry about that but still, you are incorrect. Virgil DID deputize his brothers, but it isn't actually clear that he ever deputized Doc Holliday (there are debates about that fact).
Even if he had, it would have been on a temporary, not permanent basis because deputies have to be paid $5/day to remain deputies, so they would only have been "legal" for brief periods and ONLY when accompanying a REAL Marshall or when performing certain tasks/assignments for him.
At any rate, it makes sense to assume that Doc was no longer a deputy at the time of the gunfight because 1st, he was sick and in the hospital at the time, and because of the conversation that Doc had with Wyatt while there, when he cleverly asked him, "What's it like to wear one of those?", who in response, took off his Deputy Marshall's badge, placed it into Doc's hand and closed it.
This makes it clear that he WASN'T a deputy at the time, and when he was, that they weren't issued badges because Doc was indicating that he had never worn one.
Remember, at the gunfight, Doc showed the badge to Johnny Ringo and bragged that, "Now it's legal", which indicates that it would NOT be under normal circumstances.
Just as a fun additional fact, Doc graduated from dental school early and had to wait until he turned 21 to start practicing. Doc was also baptized Presbyterian, so likely learned his Latin in school rather than at mass. Either way, not only was he unusually educated for a gambler/gunslinger, he was, from the looks of it, extraordinarily intelligent.
One of the best westerns made, Val Kilmer killed it as Doc Holiday !👍
This film is based on historical events. In fact the dialogue at the infamous Gunfight at the O.K. Corral was nearly word for word accurate
One of the things that isnt real in the movie is Johnny Ringo's story, Doc never had a gun fight with him, in fact, they never even met...Ringo was in and out of jail for most of his life
@@hardyharr9377 Ringo was found dead in a grove of trees. He was shot in the head. His death was ruled a suicide, but there is still controversy to this day over the circumstances.
Well, sure it depicted slices of history, but this was a stylized Hollywood western, not a bio-pic! They took some HUGE liberties and fictionalized within a historical template in order to make a great film, using a STACKED ensemble cast!
@@nicksterj I do know ringo was in and out of jail all the time and I think he did die a shitty death...dont quote me on that
Yes, but if i remember correctly Doc Holliday was in a different state at the time, going thru a legal matter that involved a court appearance. @@woodysthoughts4032
Val Kilmer's performance as Doc Holliday was fantastic, dare I say his best.
If you enjoyed this Val Kilmer movie, you might like another film he is in that is also based on an unbelievable yet true story called “The Ghost & The Darkness”.
Really tough getting anyone to react to this movie. To date, only 2 channels have done it. Everybody seems to want to do the same movies.
I agree,” The Ghost and The Darkness “, is a great movie.
I love the movie the ghost and the darkness. Great historical movie. The true story of the ghost and the darkness is even more interesting than the movie.
Such a good movie.
I have a great fondness for the comedy "Captain Ron" (992) starring Kurt Russell. I use his line "Motivation's important! Learned that in rehab." whenever I work with students.
This is one of the best westerns ever made. And it is one of the most accurate. And you are right, the whole cast was spectacular. One of my all time favs. 👍👍👍
Except for Doc's triple shotgun blast. 😛
Dude, ......one of the most accurate? I agree that this novie was amazing, but to say that this was very accurate is literally the definition of talking out of your ass! The characters were real ppl and there was indeed a gunfight at the O.K Corral, which the film depicted. Aside from that, this is stylized fiction w/a historical backdrop!
I would put this in the top twenty western list.
A truly legendary cast... Val Kilmer and Michael Biehn (a few years removed from The Terminator and Aliens) absolutely stole the screen, but Kurt Russell, Bill Paxton, and Sam Elliott were also excellent as the Earp brothers... Billy Bob Thornton in an early role is a treat, as was Billy Zane in here, before Titanic. Michael Rooker had a solid part in this, long before he had his more iconic characters in Guardians of the Galaxy and The Walking Dead, as did Thomas Haden Church, before anyone knew his name... also toss in Jason Priestley (90210) and Dana Delaney (China Beach at the time, and later Desperate Housewives), who were actually kinda hot commodities at the time and a cameo from Charlton Heston, and holy crap, what a cast
And Ed Bailey, the man Doc stabbed in his first scene, was played by none other than the great Sylvester Stallone's brother... Frank Stallone.
Most people who saw this in the 90s recognized Thomas Haden Church for his work on the popular 90s sitcom "Wings". BTW, I just discovered that Mayor John Clum was played by Terry O'Quinn who won an Emmy for outstanding supporting actor for his work on the popular tv show Lost. BTW, Mayor John Clum was one of the notable people to attend Wyatt Earp's funeral.
@@jesses5463 - gawd, I'd totally forgotten about Wings, and didn't recall he was in it until I pulled up some screenshots lol
@@jduncanandroid Yeah, it's very easy to forget now, but back then everyone recognized him from that show.
@@jesses5463 I was about to say, he was in the middle of his run as the lovable simple mechanic on Wings, which ALSO had Tony Shalhoub. I always remembered that was where they started,
Soldier is a very underappreciated Kurt Russell movie that you should absolutely react to!
I loved the movie. Looking back I kinda feel like it might have been inspiration for the Halo games.
Kurt's son Wyatt (USAgent) is in that movie.
@@anthonydean1743 There's also a Bladerunner reference when it show's the Soldier's battle history.
I would WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with your comment. "Soldier" is woefully neglected.
@@DarkParn i thought soldier and blade runner share the same universe? could be mistaken though
Kurtt Russel also took over directing this movie after the original director quit half way through the movie. One of his and Val Kilmer best performances of all times!
" There's no normal life, there's Just life
now get on with it Wyatt. "
- Doc Holliday
Lonesome Dove...
That's it...
That's all you need to know about the greatest Western Novel ever written!!!
Kurt Russell really directed Tombstone. A lot of behind the scenes videos mention this. It was Kurt's passion movie. If you like the western genre I recommend BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID, LITTLE BIG MAN, DANCES WITH WOLVES and the series DEADWOOD
Val Kilmer should have an OSCAR for this. Not very accurate but the one where Wyatt went into the stream was very much a real event, killing Curly Bill. He somehow faced down a hail of bullets and not a scratch. When the scene comes on where rando says "I've got lots of friends" and Doc says "I don't", gets me in my heart. Their relationship was a special friendship in reality, and mystified Wyatt's people.
That's not a rando - that's John "Turkey Creek Jack" Johnson - he was a real person, and he really did ride with Wyatt against The Cowboys.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE WESTERNS OF ALL TIME! It has an outstanding cast:
Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer, Michael Biehn, Dana Delaney, Bill Paxton, Jon Tenney, Billy Bob Thornton, Powers Boothe, Robert Burke, Sam Elliott, Stephen Lang, Joanna Pacula, Jason Priestley, Michael Rooker, Billy Zane, And Charlton Heston. Narrated by Robert Mitchum.
Same here, I watch this movie at least twice a year...and I do research on the movie and what really happened...
Facts i really love this movie so much my favorite western movie.
Actually, Wyatt and Mattie weren't married, though they might have been considered common-law. Wyatt did have a wife some years before, but she died (I think it was cholera), and he went on kind of a bad turn, doing some pretty terrible things before settling down some. He's depicted here being somewhat more heroic than he was in reality, I'm not certain he left Mattie before she died or not.
Actually one of the things I like about this movie is that Wyatt isn't portrayed as being all that heroic. He doesn't give a crap about the Cowboys until his brothers get involved... his loyalty to them is the only reason he confronted them at the OK Corral. And then his crusade against them at the end is driven by straight vengeance for the killing of his brother. He's maybe portrayed a little better than he was in real life and the Cowboys somewhat worse than they were in real life but he's a pretty gray anti-hero figure in this movie.
@@chriswhinery925 I don't disagree, I'm just saying he wasn't quite as heroic as he's shown in this film. He was actually a bit of a bad egg.
the only thing he did was steal some horses
@@chriswhinery925 nah if you research the cowboys the movie doesn't make them out to be as bad as they really were
In real life Wyatt was a lot more in the grey area than portrayed in this movie. He was actually more of a professional gambler than a law man most of his life. Although like many gun fighters of that time he moved between law enforcement and criminal activities. While in Tombstone the Earp's not only controlled gambling but prostitution and eventually the theatres. So the conflict between them and the Cowboys was as much a territorial gang war as it was law enforcement. In actuality the gunfight at the Corral tarnished Wyatt's reputation in town and eventually is the reason he leaves.
Docs best line in this movie was when they asked him why he was helping Wyatt take out the cowboys ... " He's my friend." To which they reply , " He'll, I have lots of friends ." And Doc says , " I dont." Chokes me up everytime.
That's a good one. But The stand out has to be "I'm your Huckleberry. That's just my game"
“Nonsense, I’ve not yet begun to defile myself” is probably my favourite Doc Holliday line.
"I have two guns, one for each of ya. "
"Wyatt Earp is my Friend" it is by far the most serious line he says in the whole movie. No Snark, No Joviality.
My Favorite line however is the Ringo Speech which is also delivered in a deathly serious manner, _"People like Ringo got a great big hole right through the middle of 'em. They can never kill enough, or steal enough, or...inflict enough pain...to ever fill it."_
_"What's he after Doc?" _
_"Revenge."_
_"For _*_what?"_*
_"......being born." __
The reason Doc hated him really was because he reminded him of himself. Doc understood Ringo intimately...because Ringo is Doc if he never had any love or friendship...or hope.
If "This" is your introduction into westerns then you found an absolute classic to dip your toes into. I'm so glad you're starting with Tombstone. This movie is on my Mount Rushmore of favorite films!
"Unforgiven" starring Clint Eastwood is pretty much a must after this one.
An epic western!
Outlaw Josie Wells
Glad you are watching this ♥ Tombstone is in my top three favorite Westerns and has some of the most fearsome moustaches tamed for use in a motion picture 🙂
Absolutely Ferocious!
Not sure of what all westerns you've watched, but Support Your Local Sheriff is a pretty good one. It's a comedy with James Garner. I, myself, don't watch too many western films, but I usually do at least enjoy the ones that I watch. This one, Tombstone, is one that I enjoy a lot.
"He stuck his finger at the end of your what?!"
If you want Western Book recommendations, I highly recommend Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry. It was later made into a mini-series starring Tommy Lee Jones and Robert Duvall as the two main characters. In my opinion it's not only a great Western, but also an epic and probably the greatest story of friendship ever written.
Lonesome Dove is on my list!! 😁 -Kacee
@@DosCavazos you guys should react to the mini series as well. It's 4 parts so it's basically one long movie but it's soooo good. I watched before I read the book. Read the book once but I've lost count of how many times I've seen the movie.
Comanche Moon is also great. Prequel to Lonesome Dove. Never read the book but the movie has Val Kilmer as well and it's pretty great.
The movie, "Hud" (starring Steve McQueen) was also based on a book by McMurtry, as was "The Last Picture Show," "Terms of Endearment," and "Streets of Laredo." McMurtry was also screenwriter for "Brokeback Mountain," although he did not write the book that movie was based on.
Robert Duvals Augustus McRae, in Lonesome Dove, is my favorite character in cinema ever, so many memorable quotes and one-liners from him in that movie that I've stolen and used over the years. 😊
Lonesome Dove also won the Pulitzer Prize for Literature. It's in my top 10 favorite books. The mini-series has a star-studded cast and is terrific as well.
I'm so glad you're watching this. This and Young Guns 1&2 are my favorites
you and I are the same
@@hardyharr9377 I can watch them 3 all day.
I'd suggest Deadwood to continue with the western theme. The best Western show of all time. One of the best shows of all time, period.
I second Deadwood.
Deadwood is amazing but I feel like the dialogue alone would make it a nightmare to edit for UA-cam. Lol. Way too many f-bombs and c*cksuckers.
Awesome movie! Kurt Russell played an amazing role here. You should check out Escape from New York and Stargate are a couple of his other great roles.
Soldier.
Vanilla Sky
I love how you didn't recognize Val Kilmer!! Great reaction besides that.
Or Billy Bob Thornton as the gambler Johnny Tyler.
Tombstone! So I'm guessing Anthony had already seen Tombstone and doesn't want to react-spoil? Great film to react to!
If you want more Val Kilmer in a good movie with an ensemble cast, check out "Heat" directed by Michael Mann. Al Pacino and Robert De Niro are the two leads, but Kilmer also has a pretty big role.
As for Westerns, I think they fit into two broad categories: classic and subversive. "Tombstone" is an example of a classic Western in that there is a good guy protagonist and a bad guy antagonist, and, ultimately, there isn't a lot of moral ambiguity. Any Western starring John Wayne fits into this category; of these, I recommend "The Searchers." Similarly, you might want to check out "The Magnificent Seven" - a remake of the Kurosawa film "The Seven Samurai." The subversive Western is all about moral ambiguity in which the protagonist is sort of an anti-hero. This is the Clint Eastwood type of Western. In another Kurosawa remake (of "Yojimbo"), see "A Fistful of Dollars" directed by Sergio Leone and starring Eastwood (it was then remade again as "Last Man Standing" starring Bruce Willis). My favorite of Leone's Westerns is "Once Upon a Time in the West" starring Charles Bronson as well as Henry Fonda playing against type. I think the subversive Western is more appealing to contemporary audiences than the classic, and the best modern example of these films is "Unforgiven" which Eastwood directed and in which he starred. Interestingly, these two approaches to Westerns resulted in a sort of rift between Wayne and Eastwood. The latter was a fan of the former, and went to introduce himself to Wayne after getting some films under his belt, but John Wayne chastised Eastwood for "ruining" Westerns by subverting the tropes. Another film worth checking out that isn't technically a Western, but it feels like one, is "Legends of the Fall" starring Brad Pitt, Anthony Hopkins and Julia Ormand.
Tidbit of history... Wyatt Earp and his brothers grew up in Pella Iowa...not far from (Belle Plains, Iowa) where Tom and Frank McLaury grew up. The McLaury brothers were the bad guys killed at OK Coral by the Earps. And years later, Wyatt became a technical advisor in Hollywood for Western movies. One of the young upcoming cowboy movie stars, Marion Morrison.. would often have lunch with Wyatt... probably to discuss Iowa. See, Marion Morrison, also known as John Wayne, was born in Winterset, Iowa (about ninety miles from Earp's home in Pella).
For a couple of fun westerns I recommend Silverado and Quigley Down Under. Both are serious when they need to be, but still lots of fun.
*Quick answer to your question: The phrase is, "No holds barred". "Holds" as in wrestling holds, and "barred", as in prohibited, forbidden, etc.*
*Historians say, this movie is the most accurate to the events depicted here. Except for the location of the OK Corral shootout ("six doors west of the O.K. Corral's rear"), and Johnny Ringo's actual cause of death.*
Also, Ringo and Doc never met, if they did it was in passing. Ringo died of an apparent suicide
@@hardyharr9377 Oh, snap. I never knew that. I knew about Ringo's suicide, though.
@@Raixor Ringo was in and out of jail his entire adult life, he would escape to various states, but would ultimately get caught here and there
For another western, I'd strongly recommend Open Range.
Also, it appears that Kurt Russell directed most of this movie. Going by memory here, but there were director troubles and there was a very real possibility the movie would be shut down. And maybe not start up again. So, to keep things moving, Kurt started directing. Every morning, he and Val Kilmer would put together a shot list and plan the days shooting schedule. Anyway, something like that.
I found Open Range quite boring until the end. I'd say Silverado or The Outlaw Josey Wales.
Notable cameos in this movie: The card player Doc stabs in the beginning is Frank Stallone. The Faro dealer that Wyatt throws out of the saloon is Billy Bob Thornton. The last man shot at the OK Corral was Wyatt Earp III, a descendant of Wyatt Earp. And in case you didn't recognize him, Ike Clanton is played by Stephen Lang (Don't Breath, Avatar). Personal note: The line: "You called down the Thunder well now you've got it", is one my favorite line reads of all time.
Wyatt was the luckiest gunman ever. Both him and Curly had double barrel 12gauges loaded with triple aught buckshot (basically a fist-full of .32s firing at the same time), and they were 50feet from each other before Wyatt let loose both barrels. Anything at that range became ground chuck. And when he tried to ride away, his gun belt slid down his legs hobbling him around his knees. So all the while this is happening, Curly's boys kept on shooting at him. Finally, after getting his belt up, Wyatt rides back to his buddies and that's where he found his coat shredded on both sides from triple aught buck and .45s, three holes through his pants, his saddle horn sheared off, the heel of one of his boots shot off, five through the crown of his hat, and three through the brim.
His guardian angel was working overtime that day.
So I know everyone in these comments is going to tell you that you got to watch “Unforgiven” immediately.
And yes “Unforgiven” is a brilliant film.
But the only reason everyone is going to tell you that you got to watch “Unforgiven” is because the that and “Tombstone” are the only two westerns reaction channels go to, thus the only westerns commenters can think to recommend.
It’s become like a snake eating it’s own tail.
But I would seriously advise you to hold off on “Unforgiven”, at least for now.
And the reason why is (without spoiling anything) I’ll say “Unforgiven” very much has a meta quality to it, that’s essentially lost on you if you’re not familiar with the genre and it’s tropes.
“Unforgiven” is a western Clint Eastwood made much later in his life, and it’s the last western he made.
Eastwood actually bought the script back in the 70s and purposely sat on it for over a decade, waiting for the right time to make it.
There are many classic westerns gong back decades.
And honestly you’d be better off watching the westerns that made Clint Eastwood famous before watching “Unforgiven”
I’m recommending this list of classic westerns that I hope you consider before you get to “Unforgiven”
“The Searchers” (1956)
“The Wild Bunch” (1969)
“The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance” (1962)
“Once Upon A Time in the West” (1968)
“Young Guns” (1988) and
“A Fistful of Dollars” (1964)
Dollars was the film made Clint Eastwood a star.
And it’s the first film in what would become known as
The Man With No Name Trilogy, which concluded with
“The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly” which is one of the most iconic westerns of all time.
Westerns will always have a special place in my heart. One of my favorite movies has to be unforgiven. Or 3:10 to Yuma.
Yes, both the original and recent remake are worth seeing
I think Maddie was what they called a "Common Law Wife" of Wyatt. She gets introduced as his wife because they've been together so long, but they never did the ceremony to make it official.
Great reaction! 😊
RIP always to Bill Paxton, who played Wyatt's brother Morgan!
This is one of my all-time favorite Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer movies. Both killed it as Wyatt Earp and Doc Holiday. And I love Sam Elliott as Wyatt's brother Virgil.
If you want to see another great movie about the story about Wyatt Earp I very highly recommend the 1994 Kevin Costner movie "Wyatt Earp". That also has a great cast in it as well.
Looking forward to the next reaction. 😊
Surprisingly this movie is more accurate than Costner's Wyatt Earp.
The Searchers. John Ford masterpiece. Starring The Duke and Natalie Wood. Everyone should watch this movie!
Also starred pre-Star Trek Jeffrey Hunter.
I agree that this is one of Kurt Russell's best roles. However, you really need to check out the cult classic "Escape From New York" in his iconic role as Snake Plissken as well as his portrayal of the coach Herb Brooks of the famous U.S. Olympic Men's Hockey Team from the movie "Miracle" which is the story of their historic upset of the Soviet Union's men hockey's team.
Congratulations Jay and Amber on your 2 year anniversary!! You have been such an inspiration to me and all of us, I'm sure! I simply love your reactions!
My personal recommendations for Western movies are (and I recommend watching them in release order)
High Noon
The Magnificent Seven
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
The Good the Bad and the Ugly
True Grit
Unforgiven
Open Range (my favorite)
Others will have plenty of other great recommendations too.
John Carpenter and Kurt Russell? Try Escape From New York. As for westerns, I recommend Silverado, Quigley Down Under, and The Man From Snowy River.
Tombstone and Unforgiven are my favorite 2 westerns of all-time. Both are must watch if you haven't seen them .
And magnificent 7, new and old also make my list.
A bit of a different western but one of my all-time favorites is The White Buffalo with Charles Bronson. I just love the dialogue and the way all the characters talk.
Doc Holliday struggled with what they called "Consumption," and what we know today as Tuberculosis.
As far as western books go I recommend anything by Louis Lamor. John Wayne's portfolio is extensive With titles like Rio Lobo, Eldorado, Big Jake and of course a western comedy McClintock McClintock missed the copyright deadline and is free to the public without any copyright trouble. It stars John Wayne his oldest son Patrick Wayne and his youngest daughter I forget her name. Also there is the 2010 remake "True Grit" it is amazing. And the Yellowstone Prequel 1883 is perfection.
Louis L'Amour, the greatest Western writer. The man lived a legendary life. Cowboy, boxer, sailor, he was a rough, tough man of the OLD breed and he actually went to the locations he wrote about to verify that all the landmarks were exact, even talking to old timers to make sure everything was as accurate as possible.
It's hard to do a reaction by yourself, but you did it rather well. I must have seen thus movie 10 timed, but since I had it in VHS. Fun watching a good movie you haven't seen in years.
This was a labor of love for Kurt Russell who was basically running the whole production by the end. He actually cut lines and scenes for himself to let the other actors and characters shine. It was originally Kevin Costner's film but he disagreed with so much supporting cast focus. He would go on to basically bully a six hour miniseries into becoming a film that would end up competing with this one just called Wyatt Earp. Costner used his clout back then to block casting and distribution efforts for Tombstone. Wyatt Earp was much longer and while it wanted more historical accuracy and covered ALL of Wyatt's life it lacked a lot of personality and released six months later to critical and box office failure.
Your reaction was phenomenal. This cast is unprecedented and unreplacabe. It would be hard to give one actor or actress a academy award after these performances. Thank you so much for this. You are amazing. 👍🏾👍🏾🌝
Tombstone might be the last great western. As for recommendations, "The Good, the Bad and Ugly" has held up surprisingly well for being as old as it is. It's 55 years old but feels fresh. The other two Man Without a Name movies are pretty good too. Additionally, the Outlaw Josie Wales is a personal favorite of mine.
Also Unforgiven is a good western movie.
They might not be Tombstone level, but I greatly enjoyed the remakes of 3 : 10 to Yuma and True Grit.
Doc is played by Val Kilmer. Since you're on a oldies movie vibe, you should check him out in Willow.
Johnny Ringo actor (Michael Biehn) was also Kyle Reese in "Terminator".
Because it's good but under appreciated, I recommend "Boe Tomahawk" (2015). It's been called a horror western, but is more of a suspense drama western with some strong horror elements. It has great characters and dialogue that gets you emotionally invested in them and a growing sense of creepiness and dread as they track down their objective leading to some very intense violence.
It's not called Bo Tomahawk.....
It BONE TOMAHAWK
Come on! It’s a HORROR!
@@BlueShadow777 Agreed. Even Robert Englund (Freddie Krueger) LOVES the movie and has been quoted numerous times saying it is one of the scariest movies he's ever seen.
Overboard is a classic
Fun fact that one of Wyatt Earp's nephews was a producer on the movie. Also the fact Kurt was also the actual director for the movie. And that river scene is based on an actual incident. The scene with Val at the end is an ironic one because doc holiday had stated that the only way he would die is with his boots on. So the line of how it was funny when he died at the sanitarium without his boots on.
I’m glad you’ve looked this western masterpiece, something funny I’ve just rewatched and came to your channel to see your reaction…one of my favorite westerns cheers
Loved your reaction, very insightful, yea Val not winning the academy for this portrayal was crap. Heard you say watching this you did the Thing and Big Trouble will l forward to watching those later tonight. Love how you did not forget the wife and hope'd he would do right by her before moving on. Good stuff :)
Check out The Outlaw Josey Wales, it’s a incredible western starring and directed by Clint Eastwood. It’s a great movie
The gunfight in the river actually took place. That wasn't made up just for the film. One of my favorite westerns.
As we say here in Texas; Y'all be safe.
I just got back from Tombstone, I go there often. Lots of misleading things in the film like the cowboys never wore red sashes, that's a Hollywood thing. Doc didn't kill Johnny Ringo, they claimed it was suicide or possibly killed by buckskin Frank Leslie. The gunfight only lasted 30 seconds. Wyatt was actually sitting in the bar watching Morgan play pool when he was shot, one bullet went over Wyatts head. Anyway it's a fascinating story, and well worth visiting Tombstone. Great reaction darlin....
It's really nice watching this with a book lover. I've seen about 20 reactions to Tombstone and yours was very refreshing.
Doc Holiday was a educated Southern Gentleman. He contracted Tuberculosis at birth from his mother, when he was to sickly to continue his Dentist practice, it was recommended he go Soutwest for a better climate for his Tuberculosis. Doc's female companion was Big nosed Kate, who has interesting stories herself.
This rendition of Wyatt Earp is based primarily on the corresponding segment of Stuart Lake's biography of Earp. The gunfight at the OK Corral in correographed from the actual Coronor's inquest. (Of course, Hollywood gave Doc a five shot, two barreled shotgun and two sixty shooters.) It is likely one of the most accurate translations of a book to film.
Lake was able to interview Earp extensively in Hollywood before Earp died in 1929. His book was published in 1931. Earp was working as an advisor on the silent western sets. During this time, John Wayne was working as a laborer on those sets, and studied Earp. Wayne later said that whenever he played the role of an authoritative character, he imitated Earp. I recently watched THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE. When Wayne removes Lee Van Cleef from a saloon, he uses the move that Earp used frequently enough that it caused one Kansas town, after Earp tamed it, to fire him for using too freqently.
The Cowboys. They were indeed organized crime. John Behan, the County Sherrif was a Democrat. He was the head of the Democratic Party in that area. He was closely affiliated with the Cowboys. They were considered the Party's enforcers. This is somewhat portayed in the film, without naming the Party. The Territorial Governor, and so, the US Marshal were Republican. The government, from the White House down finally had enough of the Cowboys and the US Marshal, Dake, was tasked with breaking them up. In the film when Earp finally chases down the Cowboys, though it is not mentioned in the film, he did so armed with federal warrants. John Behan had a county judge issue warrants for the Earps. The timeline in the film is a little jumbled on that issue.
You commented on Russell's appearance when he got off of the train. There, he is the spitting image of the most often seen photo of Wyatt Earp.
Oh, and the Earps weren't "Gunslinges". They were lawmen. Wyatt only shot one man in his career before Tombstone. Conversely, Earp was never wounded, which amazed his cohorts after his "duster" was riddled with bullet holes after the river fight.
Maddie is not Wyatt's wife, though they might qualify for a common law marriage. I don't know how long they had cohabited. Seven years was the most common requirement.
Kirt Russell was also the uncredited director of this movie. There's some YT videos about how he had to take over when the actual director couldn't handle it. And Wyatt and Maddie were not married. She was someone who was clinging to him thinking she was his wife, even used his last name, but they weren't married.
One of my favorites.
I had an ancestor that killed the last Earp in Arizona in a gun fight on July 6th 1900 in Wilcox, Arizona. Warren Earp was the youngest of the Earp brothers. He did not take part in the gunfight in Tombstone but did take part in the Vendetta ride.
El Mirage, Arizona
All parties did a phenomenal job. RIP Bill Paxton. One of his best roles.
If you haven't seen them here are several good westerns: A Fistful of Dollars (1964), For a Few Dollars More (1965), The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966), with Clint Eastwood...The Gunfighter (1950) with Gregory Peck as Johnny Ringo..and The Fastest Gun Alive (1956 ) with Glenn Ford.
John Wayne knew Wyatt Earp when he was a young man helping out on the movie sets. Wayne said his trademark walk was patterned after Wyatt.
I can even tall you the guns Doc Holiday was packing, it was very well known:
His main pistol was an 1873 single-action army Peacemaker, chambered in .45 Long Colt caliber with true ivory grips and a 4.75" barrel. His smaller backup was the stubby 3 and a half inch barreled version with the compact "beaver tail" handle with matching ivory grips, and was also chambered in .45 Long Colt.
This was exactly what you saw Val Kilmer using in this movie, thus the film makers were exactly accurate to true Doc Holiday lore on that one.
He was called "Doc" Holiday because he was originally a dentist, but was forced out of the dentistry trade when he was diagnosed with Tuberculosis. This caused him to pursue and master poker, and eventually become an outlaw gunfighter as well.
His wife, whose widely known nickname was "Big Nose Kate," was a Hungarian immigrant. And what this movie does not feature (but the Kevin Costner version film "Wyatt Earp" does), is that Doc Holiday and Big Nose Kate fought a lot in a toxic marriage until eventually Doc left her to help Wyatt Earp kill off the Cowboy gang in the end.
Also, most people don't realize the significance of the scene in this movie where Wyatt and his brothers were first loading everything off the train until Wyatt was interrupted by the U.S. Marshall who approached him. Despite what Wyatt Earp thought at that moment (thinking that the Federal Marshall in question wanted to recruit him, which was not the reason the Fed approached him), the Federal Marshall was actually approaching Wyatt Earp to deal with Wyatt over his prior life as a horse thief and mugger before he cleaned up his life in the form of becoming a town law man in Dodge City Kansas.
But the Federal Marshall never got to that part of the conversation before his sentiment toward Wyatt Earp was instantly changed by Wyatt mentioning that he "did his duty" and then retired as a Kansas City lawman, which the U.S. Marshall apparently accepted as suitable closure and amends made for Wyatt's troubled life prior to enforcing law in Dodge City.
But those of us who know the real story as I do instantly recognize the U.S. Marshall's having approached him for this never-to-be realized purpose in that scene of the movie you just watched.
More than this, the Kevin Costner version's end-of-movie epilogue actually mentions a historical fact that "Tombstone" never covers:
Even after Wyatt Earp retired from law enforcement in Tombstone Arizona, other surviving members of the now wiped out Cowboy gang still continued to die "mysterious deaths" in the years that followed. The widely accepted theory is that even after Wyatt was out of the gunfighting life and out of law enforcement, he likely still hunted Cowboy gang members secretly for years (even well into his commonlaw marriage to the actress Josephine Marcus, ongoingly many years after Doc Holiday died of his tuberculosis). But of course, no one could ever prove that.
Also:
The pistol you see Wyatt Earp take out of the wooden case after he gets sworn in as a Tombstone town Marshall was historically accurate too;
To Thank Wyatt Earp for his time as a loyal lawman before he went to Tombstone, the townsfolk of Dodge City Kansas had a special version of an 1873 Colt Single-Action Army Peacemaker custom-made for Wyatt Earp. It had an extra long barrel as is featured in the movie you just watched, and the gold sheriff badge plaque on the handle that had Wyatt Earp's name engraved into it was historically true too. When Wyatt retired from Dodge City law enforcement in preparation to go to Tombstone, he kept the custom pistol in question and packed away in the wooden case you saw him take it out of in the movie. He was hoping never to have to use it in a gun fight again, but alas...
A little trivia: When a prospector told people he was going out into the desert (and Apache country) to look for minerals, he was told the only thing he'd find was his tombstone. So when he discovered a vein of silver, he named it the Tombstone Mine.
Thank you so much for doing this. Tombstone is easily one of my top five favorites.
Young Guns, Outlaw Josey Whales, Tombstone, 3:10 to Yuma in no particular order and oddly Maverick mood dependent, are my favorites.
Westerns to see......
3:10 To Yuma - Russell Crowe
Unforgiven - Clint Eastwood
Young Guns - Charlie Sheen
My favorite movie friends of all time...Sam and Frodo, Andy and Red, and Doc and Wyatt.
Spinning the revolver like that may look ridiculous but it shows dexterity and hand to eye coordination, which were essential in quickdraws.
The shots of the Four Horsemen, riding into the breach, are epic!
Val Kilmer was on a roll at the time, the ICEMAN in Top Gun, Jim Morrison in THE DOORS, and the lead in THUNDERHEART all within months of each other, and then this came out right in that mix. Clearly one of Americas best actors of the past 40 years.
Also he was Batman after Michael Keaton and before George Clooney.
As far as books go with a western setting try Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry - winner of the 1986 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction. The 4 part mini-series based on the book, also called Lonesome Dove, was nominated for 18 Emmy Awards, winning 7. It also won 2 Golden Globes
With all the accolades alone, I don't understand why no one ever reacts to Lonesome Dove. Beautiful story, amazing actors, so much good reaction material.
Now you understand. When Michael Bean was in the mandolorian. Scene with the showdown. Everyone was wishing Mando said "I'm your huckleberry". That would have been epic.
Michael Biehn (NOT Bean) actually.
I'm glad ur interested in westerns, and don't ever complain about reactions, but this edit KILLED me 😂 LOL. Wow almost every great line and scene cut in the edit... appreciate ur time though.
I grew up in Colton CA. Wyatt's brother who got assassinated is buried there because their parents lived there. Originally buried in an old creepy graveyard off of ague mansa. Then moved to hermosa cemetery. The colton library museum has some guns from the OK gunfight.
It wasn't confirmed till years later, but Kurt Russell was also the director
Doc Holiday was a dentist from Georgia. He was diagnosed with Tuberculosis. He moved west to a drier climate. He opened a practice, but ended up gambling and drinking.
Oh nice! Love this western classic.
Notice how when the gun shot goes off doc is the only one who doesn’t flinch
Open Range and The Outlaw Josey Wales are two great westerns. There are many good ones though.
Always amazes me how many reactors puzzle over whether Doc is sick or not when in the opening exposition it clearly says he has TB.
Louis L’Amour is the best western author of all time. He’s an insanely good storyteller. He has like 200 books and you could pick from almost any to start and it wouldn’t be a bad place. His “Sackett” series is absolutely incredible, following a family as they cross from England in the 1600s all the way until probably the 1880s or so.
This is one of my favorite movies ever made. I love it so much and have seen it so many times I can quote entire scenes. I too loved Doc. That was maybe the best performance of Val Kilmer's career. It's a travesty that wasn't even nominated for an Oscar for the role. It's the best thing he's ever done.
Awesome movie, and a great reaction from you to boot! Val Kilmer rocks as Doc Holliday... well the whole cast is excellent really.
I also love the little jump-in with Billy Bob Thornton as the lousy poker dealer... hahaa!
I must say also I LOVE your hair!
This is a top tier western with an incredible cast. Some of it is historically accurate. Some of it isn't.
I understand the gunfight at ok corral was fairly accurate. Also Wyatt Earp charging through the cross fire in the creek to kill Curly Bill was true according to some eye witnesses.
Wyatt Earp & Mattie Blaylock were "practically married" meaning common law marriage. They were having relationship problems before they even got to Tombstone.
There was no gun duel between Doc Holiday & Johnny Ringo.
Always great to see another western fan! and your reaction was top notch. BTW as far as books go the best western book I've ever read is Lonesome Dove, you should for sure check that out sometime.
Just a FYI it’s huckle bearer, the handles on a coffin were called a huckle. So he was offering to carry his coffin.