Metal Lathe Stand / Machine Table
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- Опубліковано 17 бер 2018
- So I finally bought a metal lathe and it needed a sturdy base with some storage for large tools and equipment.
Some machining projects coming soon!
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Since this question keeps coming up:
The Lathe is a SIEG SC10 but it's also sold in the US by Precision Matthews where it's called the PM1228.
In Europe, you can purchase this Lathe from Paulimot: goo.gl/GWuVB3
My welder is an AC/DC TIG Welder, if you're in Europe you can purchase it here: goo.gl/LQTKLB
how have you found the sc10?
I also would love a little review on that lathe SIEG SC10. Now that you used it and made the upgrades ( as per other vid), - how is it? You like the lathe?
@@redbutler751 @Red Butler Yes, so far it's done everything I asked of it, I think it's a good deal for an affordable, allrounder lathe. Precision with these machines is much better than they usually get credit for (at the spindle nose, I have a runout of less than a micron/.001mm). As you saw in the video there's always things you can improve, and they cut some corners here and there and sometimes the chinese have some weird design quirks. But when you view it in relation to the price, it's fine. A comparable machine from a "professional" brand would easily cost you over 10k. I honestly can't say anything bad about the overall quality, my only reason to get another lathe would be to get one with bigger capacity. Power/Torque is also good for this size of machine. I think the part I dislike the most is the top slide, as you saw in the video, it does feel a bit lower quality than the rest, but with a budget machine there's gonna be some tradeoffs. You can check out Frank Hooses channel here on UA-cam - he made a very detailed video series about a Precision Matthews lathe that is the same model as this one, just from a different reseller. Those videos were a great help in making the decision to buy this one.
@@PhilVandelay That thing is almost 5000 dollars, and you call that affordable?
What a beast of a lathe and table! Well done dude!
Congrats on the new toy/tool! Stand looks great!
Nice tools and workshop!
Great work! I really like the shots in the last 10 seconds of the video too.
Congratulation from Brazil mister Phil Vandelay - excellent project
Lovely! I need to build one for my lathe as well, hope it comes out half as nice as yours
Nice job Phil!
Nice work!
A metal lathe is a life goal for me :)
Great work Phil...from Argentina.
nice work bro
Very nice table.
Nice build.
Very nice! Can you tell me the dimensional section of square tube that you've used? Thanks!
Richtig gut geworden 👍👍
hello phil congratulations for your work and videos greetings from Spain I would like to know what kind of turret you have for the winch tools a greeting
excellent work congratulations. Only one question since I'm a beginner and I should buy a welding machine like yours. What kind of welding did you do? thank you
nice work man!
Excellent!
Very nice and clean work. I would just put the screws recessed.
Hi,
Well done, which size of square tube did you use (size and thickness) ?
Thanks in advance
how far in is lathe from front of table thanks
Hello Phil, the table saw looks idea for the workshop, what type is it?
nice congratulated and you New metal lathe
what size of the tubes? Do you have any idea how much the table weighs?
Grande Phil
Phil that is one solid table.
I like how you welded the drawer glides to the frame.... I would not have thought of that.
You were smart to get a lift to raises the lathe up. My brother and I about broke our backs getting mine up on the beach (which I've yet to show in a video, but I will in time).
Loving your videos. Tell me about your welder..
I'm actually surprised nobody has complained about me welding drawer slides to everything ;) It's mostly just lazyness, I hate drilling holes in steel with a hand drill...
As for the welder, It's basically a chinese welder, but they're sold and branded by a company in Germany called Stahlwerk. AC/DC Tig with built in Plasma Cutter. They do the quality control over here but the parts are cheap so you get a lot of bang for your buck. Pretty happy with it now that I replaced the torch. Only thing that sucks is the foot pedal...
I wonder if it's because they're usually zinc coated... Does it flash junk onto your tungsten?
Yep, they're coated and it can be kind of a pain to weld. But I've figured out that it works alright if you start a clean puddle and lead it into a zinc coated piece. If you start the arc right on the zinc, that's when it gets really messy.
Das ist toll!
🎥 GREAT JOB 🎬 ! _ Congratulations! 👍 🇧🇷
Is that galvanised steel or stainless?
I wish i could weld like him!
I just bought a similar lathe and I need to build a stand for it... Hmmm.
Very good video have just subscribed, just a couple of points, a lathe needs to be bolted down on a steel top, wood can move with different temperatures, with a steel top packing can go under lathe to level & cut parallel and be rigid also adjustable feet to help level lathe, these would be useful if you move it to new position, thanks from Coventry UK.
It's laminated multiplex, not just normal wood so it won't expand based on temperature. But you're right though a steel top would have been better and I haven't leveled the lathe yet. So far it's not a problem but I might change it sometime in the future
Phil Vandelay
Thanks for replying, when I mounted my new lathe I just levelled the bench first with the feet then packing under the lathe as needed, I was mainly concerned turning parallel from the chuck over 130mm length, thanks looking forward to more of your videos.
Hi Phil,
Wouldn't have it been better to place tubes or plates right under the Lathe base mounting holes to be able to screw directly the lathe on the metal parts of the table? I'm trying to figure out the best design to assemble the tubes on the top plane...
Yes you're right. The Lathe is actually bolted onto the long middle steel beam that you can see earlier in the video, I guess I forgot to show how I actually did that. So yeah like you said it would be good to add additional tubing wherever the mounting holes on your lathe are and bolt it onto those. In my case they are all in one line so the long piece of tubing was enough. I did beef up this table a few months ago to make it even more rigid too, you can see some pics of that on my instagram
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hi phil! nice build. one question tho; did you messure how accurate the lathe is? did you do anything to adjust it? or does it perform well just as is, with the wooden plate under it? would appriciate a fast response, because right now i got a problem with mine and i am not sure what material i should use to mount it on to.... Thanks
Hey, I have actually beefed up this table a bit recently because it allowed for a bit too much vibration and and I also added leveling feet. I'm actually still in the process of optimizing stuff so it's hard to give a definite answer. Up until recently I hadn't even bolted down the lathe to the table as I was too busy doing projects and pefect accuracy wasn't that important. In general you have to keep in mind that with this design that lathe doesn't get attached to the sheet of plywood, as you can see in the video I added a "cross" of tubing in the middle and that's what the lathe is bolted to right now. The wood in this case is really only there to keep things from falling through the table and add a little more surface area but most of the weight is carried by the steel bar in the middle. As for accuracy, there's two things that will come into play here which is the rigidity of the table (how much it swings/vibrates) and how level the lathe is. If you have swing/vibration you will generally get a worse surface finish so you want everything to be as ridgid as possible. If the lathe isn't level, the bed can twist ever so slightly resulting in the ways not being 100% paralell which can lead to the lathe turning a taper. There's a great video by ThisOldTony on this topic which I recommend you check out. But to actually answer your question: For what I did the lathe performed reasonably well even without being bolted to the table, I got decent surface finish on most materials and it was accurate enough for me. I did run into a lot of problems with parting operations and I still haven't figured out what exactly the problem is there. I generally wouldn't recommend putting a lathe this size on *just* a wooden surface with the wood carrying all the weight, but I think a solution like this with a supporting steel structure underneath can work ok. Ideally you want the base to be as heavy and sturdy as you can manage. It's a pretty big topic and I'm anything but an expert but I hope I could help a little... for smaller shop projects I always post updates on Instagram, feel free to check then out to see where I'm at with the process of setting up the machines a bit better.
@@PhilVandelay Yeah, as more as research as more paranoid i get :D
lets see, organize the argon next week and the profile steel to start cracking tigging away
i actually wanted to begin model engineering, not build a fricking lathe from scratch :D
Tig welding a lathe bench............ You either dont have a mig welder or you love tig welding. I would think you'd want the top draw for metal chips, bottom draw for tooling. What kind of plywood is that thats pre-colored? I just started making my lathe bench out 3/8 angle bar, almost went with square tubing, right now I'm deciding on the top. Very nice lathe bench thanks for showing.
You're right, I don't have a mig welder, just using TIG cause it's what I've got but yeah, mig would be a lot more convenient for this kind of stuff. The plywood is a special laminated plywood, it seems it's not really a thing in the US but quite common here in Germany. It's basically plywood with a really hard, wear resistant coating on top that is also water (and oil) proof, so quite useful stuff since you can just wipe it down.
Hi Phil, I'm not expert at all, but I was surprised why you did choose to place the 4 vertical tubes on a side of each corner of the horizontal frame instead of just below them. Is there a good reason to do that like for strengthening the table for the lathe or maybe vibrations or you did not do it on purpose?
Thanks for your videos
There are a few minor reasons but nothing too important. I sometimes do it like that because it's more convenient to align the legs to be perpendicular to the top this way, by clamping the sides against each other. It also creates a ledge around the table which can be convenient to clamp things onto. And if you stand in front of the table like in this case it can be more comfortable if the front face (like in this case, the drawers) is a bit further inside, there's more space for your legs this way. And since the table legs are a bit further inside, it helps, for example, to place the table flat against a wall if there is something in the way at the bottom, like a baseboard. It also makes it easier to place two tables flush against each other because only the tops are touching and there is space between the legs. Last but not least I think it looks nice. Structurally I don't think it makes too much of a difference.
@@PhilVandelay Ok, Plenty of good reasons I see. Now my concern was more about the structural strength but you weld with TIG process and this is the best one I guess.
Thanks .
Make/model of lathe?
Never mind.... figured it out myself.
Complimenti ottimo lavoro ! Che saldatrice tig utilizzi ?
MagMax ???
What welder do you use?
Sembra che non sia l'unico a chiedere che tipo di saldatrice TIG che lui utilizza.
Ciao da America, MagMax
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Exelente
Saludos desde colombia
I noticed you tend to put the legs on the "inside" of the joint instead of the "bottom". Why?
Makes it easier to put stuff up against the wall when the edge is wider than the legs, allows you to clamp stuff onto the tabletop all around, and also helps to align the legs to the frame somewhat square. Also gives you a bit more legroom when you're standing in front of it
bro what is the size of square tube?
45x2mm, but it's actually a bit unersized for this (I used what I had around). I'd suggest something more like 50x3 to give it more mass
HI Phil! what welder are you using??
I put a link in the comment on top!
Thanks mate
Man, I thought you were not on the first floor. How did you lift the lift?)))))
Haha, I'm not, it's the second floor. But the building has a heavy-duty elevator. The little forklift barely fit in there :)
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Hi, what is your table saw?
I don't know exactly since it isn't mine! It's an older Metabo model, I think you can buy the slider as an accessory
Phil Vandelay Thank you.
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Bruh ... you even work for a living? Your shop is like test-tube perfect.
It's a hobby shop, I'm actually a freelance graphics designer. I put most my money into the shop though. And I just like to have things clean and organized
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NICE !! GENERAL !! WORKBENCH !!
BUT !! A !! NO !! FOR ! A! METAL !! LATHE !!