His English is awesome! He lived in London for a little bit as a child, but when he hangs out with me long enough he starts to pick up the American accent 🙈😄
LillKrull Centerpartiet is liberal economically as well. Liberal as in free market liberalism. The definition of liberalism as an ideology is unchanging, regardless of national standards. America has corrupted the terms "conservative vs liberal" into basically meaning "right vs left" or "republican vs democrat". Traditionally, conservatism is a very different ideology to liberalism. Besides perhaps SD, the parliament of Sweden has no conservative parties.
None of your business, well in Sweden well yes SD is the only moderately conservative party, but conservative isn't really a thing in Sweden, it's a bunch of socialists that wished they were as left leaning as the communists, and then there are the Social Democratic parties that are the most left leaning right wingers imaginable. And if we grouped the parties into 3 categories, then we get. Socialists - Green Party, Left Party, Social Democrats... Social Democrats - The Christian Democrats, The Liberals, The Centrists, The Moderates... Conservative - Sweden Democrats. The list is weird in that that we have 2 super socialist parties and one slightly socialist party and then everyone else is a Social democrat and 2 of the Social Democrat parties are even named after being in the center. The Centrists and the moderates. The Liberals used to be called the people's party, now I don't know if they got scared of their own name once they learned English and got a hold of that all Dictator nations are named that.
Really glad you havn't stopped making videos Stefan! I hope you will find purpose and meaning somewhere in Sweden, unless you already have of course! :)
In sweden there’s a very high importance of equality between men and women. Everyone is the same basically. Therefore I think it’s very strange that you would employ people based on what they have between their legs and not their competence. Könskvotering is a radical idea that should not be imposed.
SlushPanic TV actually they employ men that are less educated than women. There are more women that have exams from universitybut still companies employ men that has not even gone one course at one. That is because many men employ men. Also women employ men.
@@zeffe0528 but the problem is that this is not the case for all companies, take DICE for example, the swedish game developer studio. They have around 94% men and 6% woman in the studio, why? Because men are more into games than womens and want to work with that because of that factor, so if könskvotering would be added it would mean that the company needs to search for woman that would replace the men that were in the studio before, even if they are maybe doing the job worse or are not into it as much. Sure there are some woman who like the job too but there is usually more men. So because of this, men would have a lower chance to get employed just because there are less woman in the market (more men will need to fight for one job than woman will do for another). This would not be equal at all and it's wrong because of this. There is not really a problem with that 96% are men in a company, people that work SHOULD NEVER get evaluated because their gender, only their skill. But this system would judge them for their gender. Just another stupid feminist idea.
@@AlexanderCorinUC79vSK women love games as much as men do, but women don't see female game developers so they don't think that's something they can do. hire more female game developers and more girls will gravitate towards it. it's an art like any other. women like art. that's like saying women don't like movies as much as men, that's why there are so few female directors. it just isn't true. there are less female directors because the business is sexist and won't give women a chance. people have to be forced to hire women and people of color because otherwise they'll just hire another average white dude.
About the maternity and peternety leave. In Sweden the leave is 480 days/child , 90 days is tied to each parent and can't be given to the other one. The parent are free to decide themselves over the remaining 300 days.
Nowadays, a Muslim can put the call to prayers as a reminder in his phone. It does not need to be relayed over loudspeakers to ten thousand non Muslims in your tiny community.
@@ErikaLindberg Because one is a musical sound, while the other is a publicly blasted religious/ideological proclamation containing a confession of faith. Besides, most swedish churches don't even use their bells anyway.
13:56 böneutrop is not alot of people gathering in the same place and pray together, böneutrop is when they have huge speakers and shout their prayer so half a town can hear it. And it needs to be banned.
Centerpartiet is technically pretty much in the middle (leaning a bit more right than left) but they team up with the blue parties (”Aliansen”) And Kristdemokraterna were a religous parti and are based on Christian values but isn’t a religous parti anymore 😊
Kristdemokraterna is VERY religiously based though, especially when it comes to abortion, hbtq (etc) and for example the böneutrop question campared to pretty much all other parties :)
This whole government being separate from the people thing that you mention several times seems to be a stereotypical american difference. In Sweden, most people dont mind paying taxes or government involvement because there is a general feeling that the government is employed by the people, they work for us and are part of the people. There is no "the man"
Maléna P: Med tanke på din värdelösa engelska antar jag att du är svensk. Hur är det inhumant att hjälpa folk på plats där man hjälper miljoner i läger än att ta emot 100 000 till Sverige och belasta välfärden totalt?
@@DramaQueenMalena depends alot of these people are not exactly from war zones. Also we cant help everybody becuse we have limited rescourses( we where only 9 million). We cant help the entire world.
I'm from Switzerland we are 8 Million and a smaller country and we have the same discussions. I believe Sweden does a great job with the refugees. Better than we do and certainly better than most other countries. Like climate change and poverty: This is a problem no country can solve by it's own. And we can't solve it by not taking people in, the world is changing.... Trying to stop change never worked. We have to find new solution.
But it would be really vague if it's based on political parties, cause the Democratic Party can range from Social Democrats like Bernie Sanders to Corporate Centrists like Hillary Clinton. And the Republican Party has a ton of different views too, but I guess it would work if it's based on candidates' views or ideologies.
literally i just started looking at a similar quiz for America and the 6th question was should teachers carry guns to fight against school shooters. america is off the spectrum.
When your friend said that he want anyone to get the chance to move anywhere, that really surprised me because I’ve NEVER met anyone who think the same way I do. That’s really interesting. I’d like to have discussions with him about this!
We live in the EU where we're free to work and live in a pretty wide area as Swedes. Our passport also gives us a lot of freedom of travel. I agree with you and him and I don't think our opinion is very unique. :)
erika but for me it is because anyone else I’ve met and started this subject with always begin their sentence with “yeah but...” and come up with problems to why this would never work. Politics, economy etc. I live in Sweden too but I know that people struggle in order to become citizens of a new country. If things worked my way, everyone would get to live any place they’d like. But reality doesn’t work like that though.
My Vegan Journey Yeah, reality is always difficult and complicated and issues get infected. But I think opinions like these are grounded in a very pure sense of humanity, and following your heart in politics, whether in elections or actual active and practiced politics, will make the world a better place. I strongly relate to people responding to me with "yeah but…." in political discussion, many agree in a sense but also can not see it implemented realistically, and that's why I do believe that ideology should be a major part of our decisions in elections. Many have lost faith, they believe we won't be able to do better, but on my best days I do believe so, and I think that as long as we believe, we can do!
Of course it can happen if politicians let it happens. The world is changing and a lot of barriers that were put to separate us from each other are coming down. We enclosed ourselves into frontiers and borders that don't exist naturally, while we are all born free and equal. It's very natural to seek for better conditions to live a prosperous life. People who are afraid or don't understand it, should look back at their history books and fear doesn't justify everything ;)
i xdklp this is so true! And a really good argument to use in such discussions as well. If it was up to me we wouldn’t have countries or barriers that makes it more difficult for us to move.
The Swedish guy made a mistake with calling Socialdemokraterna socialists. They are not socialists, theyre social democrats similar to Bernie Sanders in the US. Vänsterpartiet is the true socialist party as their program includes abolishing capitalism long term, while social demokraterna support a capitalistic free market but with a tax rate that supports things like the the swedish health care system etc and they dont have anything in their program about abolishing capitalism.
clueless guy Ja, de heter social demokraterna inte socialist demokraterna. Om du inte förstår att det är skillnad så är du riktigt dum i huvudet ärligt talat
Why would ”böneutrop” be allowed in Sweden? If i would move to a country with a different main religion then i am used to i wouldnt open a church and blast bell sounds and if i did i would be punished hard so why should we allow it here? I can see why people would like to have it here but i think it takes away the Swedish tradition
@@Shiva182Katarina the areas where they are situatiated are the slums mostly( aka refuge territory). So no it does not really distub them. It is also like once a week at a certian time.
"You have to stand up for yourself as an employee, [and say] this is how much I'm worth." This really shows the american hypercapitalist mindset. Whether or not he did it intentionally, he literally just made the statement that it is acceptable to determine the worth of human beings monetarily, which almost all modern philosophers agree is a 'category error' which means they are not comparable units. Obviously this notion exists in Sweden because capitalism is built upon it, but capitalism seeks to hide it with the middleman of labor.
Great example of how the Swedish system can work. Theses questions challenge you to think about the issues and where you stand. It is NOT about personalities. All three of you do a good job of showing us how this works for each of you and why.
Being an immigrant myself, i agree with the supporting yourself argument, but refugees are a special case. As long as there's war in their country they can't go back. it's actually admirable that sweden helped out.
no i don't agree! i'm born and raised in sweden and i would never go to my 2nd fave country Ireland so beautiful and their culture,the people and say -yes ireland should become a multiculti land! "i moved there to experience ireland"
As a refugee. Don't you have to go to school and learn the language and try to get a job? My sister's and my dad and mom. Moved to Sweden from Iraq in 2005. My mom wanted to learn the language and she worked as well. My sister's one passed away and the other one she's 26. Speaks 4 languages finished her school. Worked as a nurse. Now she's going to higher study and she's the youngest to go to that class among everyone else. And I as an immigrant to the U.S. who is now an American citizen. I wish America follow the Swedish model In treating environment and ppl. I wonder if Sweden had any refugees from the middle East b4 all the wars that accused in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan!! Ppl wanna go to Europe as tourists not refugees. I liked Sweden since I was a kid and still my favorite country. Not bcs the money they pay ppl, but the structure, safety, respecting human rights and abba my favorite band.
Well inside the EU it depends on the country. Some countries say that as immigrant you have to learn the language within one year (or at least start learning it) while refugees first have to do this after 3 years. Refugees often are seen as some who move back to theire original country within a limited time. Like the german minister responsible for for refugees last year still said that the refugees (guess he talks about the 1,5 million refugees germany has, mainly from Syriah) are going to move back home. Therefore governments often don't integrate refugees as much as they would do with immigrants.
I'm sorry for your loss of one of your sisters. _I wonder if Sweden had any refugees from the middle East b4 all the wars that accused in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan_ Yes, Sweden has a lot of refugees from the Middle East. Of the asylum seekers who has come to Sweden in 2018 so far, 1,863 were from Syria, 892 were from Irak, 570 from Afganistan and 193 from Yemen. Of the asylum seekers who came in 2017, 4,718 were from Syria, 1,886 were from Iraq, 1,680 from Afganistan and 146 from Yemen. Of the asylum seekers who came in 2016 1,863 came from Syria, 892 came from Iraq, 570 from Afganistan and 193 from Yemen. Of the asylum seekers who came in 2015 51,338 were from Syria, 20,857 from Iraq, 41,564 from Afganistan and 442 from Yemen. About 56 % of the people who apply for asylum get to stay.
@@onespiker I get what u saying. Yet Europe is 500 million. Middle East is not even 200 million. There is 4 million refugees in Jordan than Germany. Back in the day ppl in Iraq bcs the economy was good and no wars. Ppl usually have summer homes in Europe for vacation. Iraq had the strongest currency. What i am saying is every time I come to Sweden. I see more refugees driving busses, nurses, doctors, artists. Some of are educated enough to love the Swedish model and we not only wanna live that model but we wanna be part of and make it more progressive and modern. Yes I was born in Iraq. Yes I am an American citizen. But never lik3d roads like I did in Sweden, and the magical winter of Stockholm. Not all refugees are bad just like not all German are Nazi and all white ppl are invader. United States for example don't have issues with refugees especially Muslims as much as they do with native born in America. Catholic churches for example.!!
I really like you doing this! It is good to discuss politics since it affects us all, and usually a lot of people have important takes on an issue. About Böneutrop: The sound that comes from a minaret from a mosque is usually a “call to come to pray” not an actual prayer. Today it is used in, i think 2 places in the whole country. Today it can be disallowed or infringed due to if it is disturbing people around. So it is about both freedom of religion and noice.
The thing is that if everyone has to hear it, that infringes on their freedom of religion; they're not allowed to not partake in Islam. Sweden is not a muslim country, nor will it never be allowed to be. We can't have anyone in here who will not respect the continued dominance of Swedish culture.
Part of what was pushing things to the "right" of the spectrum was that here Stefan was bringing in a lot of beliefs rooted in the American framework (things like "the employer should be able to decide what they pay people", it's up to individuals to bargain their own wages, and frequent references to the idea of people supporting themselves through work, which socialism recognises isn't always possible and that it's about everyone being supported by the whole). Some of the things he was saying are very much American beliefs that are not necessarily tied to the fact that they create positive outcomes, it's more what is felt to be true or important that doesn't necessarily have evidence. Both sides of the spectrum can do this in advocating what's "true" or "right" or even what "happens in reality", but the fact that the Nordic countries have the results they do socially and have a VERY different approach to the States suggests that starting from what America does isn't the right way to go into this conversation. It's interesting that I've watched later episodes and Stefan has clearly moved on some of these positions as he's clearly gotten the point of this through his Swedish lived experience.
The refugee question is a difficult one. I moved to Sweden last year (specifically Norrköping), I am in SFI (Swedish for Immigrants). For those who don't know, SFI is free school offered for those who need to learn or fine tune their Swedish. The whole system is overwhelmed with the amount of refugees and immigrants coming in. Even though SFI is short staffed and their money is being stretched for books, other supplies and paying staff, what I love about it is it encourages us to dive into Swedish social culture and the working world. For example, last week we had a speaker come and talk to us about restaurant work, offering a course in restaurant knowledge that does not interfere with our classes. There are also courses one can take to learn the specific vocabulary for the job they want or perhaps a similar / same one they had in their homeland. Sweden does a wonderful job ingratiating and encouraging people, but I can definitely understand why it is also beneficial to decrease the amount of people we accept because of the resources being stretched as far as they are.
First question was a total misunderstanding: tax on wealth (assets) is NOT the same as tax, on high income. The swedish guy fucked up the translation: he should have said tax on people with big fortunes (förmögenhetsskatt) - NOT tax on people with high salary income - The meaning lost in translation :-)
Jag uppfattar henne som någon som gör det som känns ok en feel good människa. Tror inte att hon skulle acceptera att en fattig bonde från något u land kom hit(även om alternativet var svält till döds). Jag säger inte att hon tänker rasistiskt utan bara ytligt. Själv så tycker jag att det är sjukt att samhället vi lever i idag behöver en ökad folkmängd för att fungera. Så i praktiken om vi får få barn(el folk flyttar) här så måste vi ta in fler invandrare utifrån. Vi lever i en expansion som aldrig tar slut. Vi är uppenbart för många mot vad vi gör av med olja mm. Men endå så gråter nästan politikerna i tv över att vi måste bli flera.
@@Alienshade Det är så ekonomi fungerar, den måste alltid öka annars imploderar den, där av förstör vi jorden som vi gör bara för att få fram mer råvaror.
25:38 "so you're more liberal in Sweden", Yes, no, maybe? The American term for "liberal" is pretty much the same as your term for "democrat", which includes Liberals *and* more left-wing socialist-type of politics (such as social-democracy). What we call in Sweden a liberal, is a rightwing. I guess this reflects the political history of Sweden and America quite a bit... And the term "conservative" only means that you would want to bring back the times of old (Edit: or rather change in a slow pace), which technically could mean left politics, there are, for example, people who think Sverigedemokraterna (the nationalists and conservatives) are too far left.
Being conservative means that you think the society should progress in increments, giving time to reflect on the changes. It is not about being regressive.
+Henrik Andersson Yeah, I guess that's a more accurate way of describing it. It's still not always rightist, "the most radical revolutionary will become a conservative the day after the revolution".
I live in one of the few cities in sweden who have a "böneutrop". three minutes and 45 seconds, once a week. I haven't heard it once. And it's not a large city.
The Center party is the "Farmers party". Historically they are in the center and promoted farmers interests, but they have a urban faction (stureplanscentern) that has adopted a more liberal ("libertarian" for you Americans) view and they currently hold power in the party. The dynamic between the urban part and the farmers part is complicated and they clash every now and then. They are socially and economically liberal (i.e. for small government) except when it comes to the environment and rural politics where they support government intervention (i.e. farm subsidies, tax on foreign agricultural products etc).
This "election compass" is good since you can read each party's reasoning as you take it and see how you line up with each party afterwards, even individual representatives.
I never push my opinion on people, but what they should have done in the video is to try and connect all the questions. Some issues that need to be dealt with is directly connected to other issues. Like the housing crisis/the job crisis are connected to the amount of immigrants we allow. Less immigrants more housing and jobs for people in the country. I'm not against immigration, i just think it's being handled poorly.
The question about muslims prayers were they shout out the prayer is actually a kind of confession of the religion where the prayers are told that Allah is the only god and such. And people in Sweden are not that religious so they don't wanna hear that. Yet they say its the same thing as when our church rings the bell but the bell only rings to tell us that it is an hour until prayer and now the prayer starts and it is not even every church. Anyone else that sees the different?
The point of inträdesjobb för nyanlända is that refugees or immigrants in general often have a hard time finding work in Sweden - And a lot of them are hired illegaly and paid less money and have no employment securities or benefits. So the point is to make immigrants and refugees be able to get work legally, which will help them be integrated into society and be more motivated to learn Swedish. There’s been big problems with integration of immigrants/refugees into Swedish society so the law is supposed to help the integration problems.
Have to point out that immigrants are fully legally able to get legal jobs, but because they often lack education they have a hard time doing so. An argument against inträdesjobb is that these already poor and alienated societies get even more poor and alienated because of the way lower pay the swedish right wants them to have. Once employers get away with giving employees way lower pay than is allowed now they won't be willingly give them a raise even though they eventually would have learned the job. This could lead to more segregation in the long run.
Another reason why some parties are sceptical about this is the way that the salaries and terms are negotiated (called "den svenska modellen"), where the workforce is organised in unions which negotiates the terms and salaries. Thus, the government today has no influence on the salaries (e.g. there is no minimum salary) and some are afraid that introducing inträdesjobb could lead to social dumping. They instead argue that the government should stay out of it and trust that the labour market knows best, which has been precedence for about 100 years ago since an agreement between labour unions and Social Democrats.
Regarding the paternity/maternityleave. It is enforced somewhat today, and that rule is considered one of the most impactful policys for increased equality. In 1980 only 5% of the leave was taken by men, by 1995 a 30 out of 225 days were locked to one partner, in 2002 that was increased to 60 out of 225. The year after, in 2003, 17% of the leave was taken by men. Today about 25% of the leave is taken by men. So it is still highly unequal but it is slowly getting better.
Question 9. No not all companies. Companies big enough to be introduced to a trading exchange (like Dow Jones or OMX). So not the hairdresser on the corner, as long as they are not part of a big chain ofcourse. I have heard sometimes that there are more men called like Anders (a common swedish man's name) in Swedens "börsbolag" than women.
I think we should take a look at Finland, they have to pay off their house mortgage in 20 year and they have the lowest mortgage interest rates in the EU....just saying! I have one though about the Adhan (Muslimskt böteutrop) that you guys missed, to compare the Adhan with a racist gathering is a bit weird. What would you think if they played parts of "Mein Kampf" at the same intervals as the Adhan? In my mind all religion is extremism, what you do in your household is one thing but to publicly proclaim your religion is something that should be controlled.
Thank you for an interesting and honest video! It was really interesting to listen to your opinions and discussions. Definitely gave me some new insights :)
The bit with the school was a... frightening bit of insight into the american mindset. Allowing the free market and corporations to dictate how the key functions of society (education, health care, law enforcement etc) operates is pure madness. It is the honorbound duty of those in power to make sure that society and the nation functions. They can't do that without power over key aspects, the pillars of the nation if you will, outside of the hands of the people i.e. the elected officials and the state backed by the taxpayers. Maybe it has something to do with how we in Sweden tend to think of the state as more of an extension and construct of the people. Hence why we don't feel comfortable with having key societal functions in the hands of private interests (and thus in the hands of individuals, not the community and the people). That, and we've learned from experience that privatizing things tend to invite unscrupulous, dangerously avaricious and downright criminal elements into those areas of subsequently emerging business. Privatizing parts of the educational system and health care system have already shown a complete nose-dive in quality of care and education, for instance. Also, you guys are blue as shite =P. Do you even know anyone who works for a living?
I'm an American and I agree with you that the American mindset on many of these issues is dangerous. Our government is completely corrupt. I wish I lived in Sweden.
Stefan, I know this is a pretty old video but I have a question. You said that you tend to lean conservative on financial issues and that the environment is your biggest issue, so what do you think about taking on financial risks to create real progress toward environmental goals? I loved listening to this conversation by the way. I learned a lot and felt that you guys were thoughtful in a lot of your responses.
I can see where your coming from when it comes to immigrants coming to Sweden and not contributing to society, but the question was specifically for refugees, meaning they have no choice but to flee their own country. So as much as I can agree on both viewpoints when it comes to immigrants, I just think you missed the question. Should Sweden take in less refugees, aka people who have fled their country because of war and oppression?
The problem with parental leave is that in many cases women are in lower paying jobs and therefore are more likely to stay at home. Meaning the child/father bonding is more likely to be lost.
Well, many people think that Kristdemokraterna is a religious party, and it's true that it's build on Christian values. But there's still non-Christians in the party, and I don't think they consider themselves as a "Christian party" - just a party with Christian values, I think (but I'm not a part of them so I'm not totally sure). And on this link you can see the Swedish parties on both the left-right and GAL-TAN scale, and also a few politicians from other countries in Europe. It would be interesting to see something like this but with both Swedish and American politicians, but I don't know how to find that. sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=6924173
This made for an interesting watch. It's nice to get some new perspectives on topics like these, especially when points of view and expressed opinions are shared in a non-confrontational way such as this. Trying to have a balanced conversation about politics is in no way an easy task, as far as my experience goes.
Muslim prayers in question could never be called freedom of speech. Sure, you are allowed to say pretty much what you'd like, but certainly not in ANY WAY you'd like. There are only a few mosques in Sweden who are permitted to do this today (and only once on fridays), none in Norrköping which is why you probably haven't heard it. Should you do the same (in either Sweden or America) you would certainly be arrested for public disorder or something similar. We are talking about speakers sending out 110 dB (same as concerts are allowed as for volume) in household areas.
In Aerököping in Denmark the local church play a melody for 3 minutes at 8 and 18. And every hour it strikes the time (so six times at 6 and 18 (after the melody)) an then one every half hour. That is very disturbing I think, but its ok for a church to play loud every hour just because it is tradition. So for me, either you say that NO religious building may disturb, or they all can.
In Saudi Arabia they ban churches. If you want to practice your religion only in your home. so i think Sweden should do the same as well, let the muslims practice their religion quietly
But Saudi is not a democracy isn't it? They don't build upon same principles as Sweden. A democracy doesn't work like "if something isn't allowed in that dictatorship then it's not allowed in our democracy either." And what about the Swedish Muslims, those whom have converted to Islam? What kind of connection do they have with Saudi? What does any Muslims except the minority that's actually from saudi have to do with that country? Why do people always bring up saudi as some kind of perfect example when it certainly isn't?
hahah as a swede, it was soo exciting to watch you, as an american, take that quiz. I actually thought you would be like more conservative than you were just because the USA, in my opinion, is very right winged. And sure, your results showed a clear right wing but on the other hand you voted a couple of questions as I, a passionate member of Vänsterpartiet, would. For example, the question of könskvotering. I actually sat here the whole video and there were soo many things I wanted to say to you, so many other perspectives I wanted to be seen. Politics has always been kind of a passion of mine just because I think it is so important and actually a responsibility we have to be aware of them. Democratic rights means democratic responsibilities, kind of. And just because I choose to be well educated in field I feel like I have a pretty good knowledge of both pro's and con's within each proposion that I wanted sooo bad to be able to share with you. The guy actually knew quite a bit but as said, there were a cuple of perspectives he did not brought up, or at least did not say in the video. I also feel like you should have taken one left winged person and one right winged to give you different perspectives even though I do not think your results would have differed very much from what they are now. It is just important to get to know both sides. Also, I became quite happy hearing you guys discuss the matter actually just because I think all of you was really humle and really tried to think about pro's and con's and revaluate your opinions. That is a really good trait and something I think most of us could improve because often, when going into discussions, we have already made up our minds which makes the discussion quite pointless. And once again, it was really interesting hearing you talk, just because your opinions differed from mine. I would say we have the same values but a key point, which makes us vote different, is the fact that I do not consider freedom equals not having the state telling us partly what to do in some cases. I consider freedom being having the possibility to choose for yourself and just because I think that our possibilities differ so much depending on for example your class. If your parents are low class you have not got the same possibilities as someone of high class in terms of, for example school and health care and I think that is very unfair and a waste of talent of those born low class. I think we all would have benefit from having those people being able to have a well paid job and therefore being able to give more back to the society in taxes. And because of this I think the state should give us the same possibilities meaning it has to compensate those born low class for having less possibilities to begin with. Now I have to go but I really enjoyed the video and I admire you guys for being brave enough to talk about this openly. We all need to discuss this more and realize we have a lot to learn from each others perspectives because no one can know everything
We have free education and free healthcare here in sweden so I'm not sure what your on about, and I dont think someone who is well educated in politics or history would vote for vänsterpartiet.
“I love travelling so...”being a refugee isn’t about loving to travel. It’s about not having your homeland as a place of safety... where war has ravaged it, these are innocent civilians who are casualties of war.
Ok, så jag är helt förälskad i Joel! Vilken man!!! Du har dina prioriteringar rätt och jag älskar dig så mycket!!! Hopas jag ser mer av dig när ser tillbaka på alla videos jag missat sista året!
I feel like you guys missed the whole point on why they argue about paying your mortgage. Basically, if you only pay interest, your loan will stay at the same rate and it is a greater financial risk if interest rates go up. Basically, it is a way of limiting the risk of a financial crisis where the government needs to bail out banks to save people from getting ruined by their house loans.
This Thursday I was on a debate with my School, and they talked and so on but one thing that caught my attention a bit more than everything else was that "Vänsterpariet" said something about the school that they wanted... They said that they wanted to remove grades in Swedish school for some reasons and that it would randomly choose who enters a specific high school. I have some huge problems with this. 1. Removing grades maybe reduce stress levels but it's gonna be way harder for companys to judge how good people are when they hire someone, people with forein names will have less chance to get a job and so on... 2. That it randomly would choose who enters a high scool??? WTF so if I work my ass of in school I would have same chance to enter as someone that doesnt care a shit about school. Give me a favour and do not ever vote for Vänsterpartiet. I know we have voting rights in Sweden and no one should tell you what to vote for but seriously, this is so bad that I couldn't believe it.
1. Employers rarely if ever look at grades when they hire people. They look at their resume, what education and experience they have. Grades as a concept can be problematic in that they are highly inconsistent, an A at one school may be a completely different grade at another school. 2. I don't have a strong opinion either way (fritt skolval vs. .. inte fritt skolval), what I disagree with in your comment is that you think you should have a higher chance of entering high school than someone who doesn't care about school. We're talking about high school here. Every single person should go to high school or an alternative such as folkhögskola or komvux. It should be the bare minimum, in general. NO ONE should be denied to enter high school, as long as they have passing grades from högstadiet.
Think twice, you really want someone that really want to enter a Gymnasium have a chance to not get in and someone thats doesnt even care about that Gymnasium have the same chance... That means that the one that really want to get in has to wait another year or find something else, thats stupid. Why not work hard and have a garanteen chance to get in. If someone doesn't care about school thats their fault!
Dascend I can't tell if we're talking about different things or you're simply uninformed about the way the school admission system works in Sweden. My point is; you as a high performing student are not in any way competing with low-performing students in this country. Not even if the government was to remove fritt skolval and introduce Vänsterpartiet's suggestion (which the government is highly unlikely to do). You will be fine. And low-performing students will keep their alternatives, god bless.
@@ErikaLindberg .. they do compete to get too the best schools though. The better the school the more you will most likely learn or find similar people to you.
Centerpartiet have been collaborating with the conservative parties for a decade or so. However this was done in order to break the political monopoly of Socialdemokraterna. Traditionally, Centerpartiet has been in the middle, collaborating with both sides.
My grandfather lives in Malaysia and I've visited a few times as well as many other Islamic nations and the Adhan(the Islamic call to worship) really becomes background noise after a week or so just like church bells, you tend to not register them every time. Adhan sounds way more pleasing than church bells but it has a lot more issues with it because of the words spoken so I really can not support it. My personal opinion is not to have church bells or Adhan because I don't think that it is healthy for our society and people but also that you have no right to oppose your religious beliefs on other people in a public space in that manner daily and especially not since these religions do not think kindly of HBTQIADP+ people, atheist, women, sinners, animals and people of other religions(to hear it sends a clear message that you are not welcome in this area).
Tax is what makes it possible for schools to be free, healthcare to cost almost nothing, and so on. Tax is good! This means that everyone has the same opportunity for good education and good healthcare.
I am from the Philippines and I find Sweden as a great humanitarian superpower! Love it, going to visit soon for a vacation. I believe in assimilation and pluralism. Having immigrants that are compatible with the host population is better for me.
The Employer tax is that when some one gets hired. the employer has to pay the same amount of money in tax that they pay to the empoye. so if they reduse the tax for the employer dosnt meen that he has to pay les money to who hes hiring thats where the Faculty comes into place and stopps the emploier to pay less money.
@@angelofdeath7739 no socialdemocrats are still social democrats. The only diffrence is that they fucked up and dont want to admit it. Vänsterpartiet are the far left party that think that communism is good.
Entry level job isn’t about what you spoke about. As your self you are a qualified teacher you will get the same salary as a teacher in Sweden. The point is that immigrant with low education to get a “easier” job with a lower salary but be able to provide for them self and not get subsidized by the state. Easier job could be like “bag boys/girls” at a store. Which is a job we don’t have in Sweden today
About the entry jobs, it's intended to help immigrants get into the job market since we currently have a high unemployment ratio for immigrants so it's intended to make companies favor hiring someone who's an immigrant to help them get a job in Sweden, this would generally be for jobs that required no previous experience such as working at a fast food restaurant, trash collectors aso. the way this was stated in this video made it sound like something different. About the maternity/paternity leave, the reason this is suggested is that women in general make less money than men and one of the reasons for this is because they tend to stay home more when they have kids which makes them less desirable to hire. If it was a forced 50/50 that wouldn't be the case. There's also studies that shows that kids who grow up with both parents equally present do better later on. That's at least what the suggested law was trying to fix
Well if you own a house it makes sense to stay forever. I'm not super educated on the issue but from what I was thinking in the video was that it if people don't make payments towards a property they purchased it would be better if someone else purchased the property who actually has the means to pay for it.
That's true. But the main problem is that the banks lend you money that they don't have backing for (say, in gold). They are basically allowed to print money (electronically). Hence the constant risk for bubbles that will eventually burst, in Sweden or in the US.
Herr Friberger, exactly. Whether the buyer is paying the loan, or has finished paying the loan, they have the right to live in their own home. Just because you can't find a place to live doesn't mean you can take away someone else's home. That's wrong. Housing is not just for the rich, Stefan. The buyer paid their down payment to the bank, which is not cheap. The bank gave them a loan that was right for the buyer. The buyer pays the loan that was selected for them. That's it; the buyer has now bought the house. They own it.
Stefan, thank you so much for your video. I have been in Sweden 7 months and also I can not vote of course, but my landlord was kind of trying to explain me what was going on with politics here and I got super scared because he told me that one "Party" wanted to literally send all immigrants back to our countries, I was guessing he was only misinterpreting everything and with your video I have a better understanding on what is going on.
So, if you like economic freedom and social freedom, why not vote for that in America? As you actually do have a party whose policies align perfectly with that. I am of course talking about the Libertarian Party.
Based on your answers and what you said in the end by thinking enviroment, social equality and neoliberal markets being important you should doubtlessly vote Centerpartiet. I am not being subjective here though since I am a member of another swedish party, just basing it on your results.
Question 3. My understanding on the rules that you have to pay back some of the mortage in the beginning. It stems from that the government have seen that a lot of citizens are just paying the intrest on their loan. They risk having problem paying the monthly intrest when the intrest rates will start to rise again.
I think there should be a hierarchy or a pyramid of immigrants. 1- Can speak the language of that country fluently and has at least undergraduate education. 2- Can speak English properly with at least undergraduate education. 3- High school education + some English 4- Undergraduate education + no English 5- Others. After that, there should be an adaptation process. During the adaptation process, anyone who refuses to learn the official language of the country (or English) OR refusing to work in an honest job should be deported.
Allowing böneutrop doesn't negate the Order Act. It's still not allowed make noise that disturbs the general public, they will have to adjust to that regardless.
I have done the this test. And I have the most procent towards(hard to explain), Miljöpartiet, Socialdemokraterna and Vänsterpartiet. Then I have Centerpartiet and Liberalerna. After them there are Moderaterna and Kristdemokraterna. Last Sverigedemokraterna(the party that will never have my vote.). Anyways. Politics is very complicated. Especially since this is the first time I vote.
Yeah politics today in Sweden have become really hard and complicated because now parties steal each others politics and stuff to win back voters you see it with S and M trying to win back voters from SD and S is also bleeding to V and M to C. Before like 20 to 50 years ago it was really simple you got 2 blocks 1 left wing and 1 right wing. But now SD getting into parliment and becoming a 3rd block and they are winning alot of votes and the old power parties just cant stand losing their power. SD has gained their votes through democracy and voters jumped to them because the 2 blocks did a bad job according to them. I can't vote I'm 16 hehe but I will get back the results for our school election today at 20:00 when they close the voting in the real election. I'm pretty sure M and SD will get alot of votes in the school election because thats were everyone were pretty much when they were at school. KD might get some because they were pretty great in the debate we had in school.
I've seen few people who managed to get high scores on Fi/V/KD and SD on FB I think SD and KD have a few left leaning questions or somewhat mixed opinions compared to the alliance or red-greens, especially according to those tests. I usually get very high on SD and very low on MP+V the rest ends up around 50-60%, i don't know how i manage with that considering what i though in my last sentence. some people thinks compasses are rigged against SD, but i've also heard some people who hate SD but score high on them.
The reason some Swedish politicians wants to split maternity and paternity leave evenly is because it previously was a totally free choice (atm mandatory paternity leave 3 months?) and women suffered awful economic results. All women of Sweden had 40% less in "pension" than the men and could also not support themselves without their man's "pension", making a divorce impossible. They also suffered more from mental health issues and did most work at home, unpaid. All because the majority of the time the family choose to have the woman stay home with their kids. This wasn't very weird though, seeing as men generally earned more and therefore, due to economic reasons, most families chose for the man to keep working. Nowdays, the salary gap between men and women have decreased, but there's still the chance that many couples will choose for the woman to stay home, so to prevent women in Sweden from being chained to a man by their economic situations the government has decided to forcefully split the maternity/paternity leave more evenly. Sry for the superlånga meddelandet, hope I enlightened you some. Have a great day!
Den enda anledningen till att jag är kluven i frågan om föräldrapenningen är p.g.a. min vän. Hans fru tilltvingade sig alla dagarna hon kunde, detta trots att han då hade ett helt horribelt tungt räligt jobb nere i hamnen i Malmö och ville inget annat än att vara hemma med barnen. I övrigt bör vuxna människor själva kunna bestämma vad som är bäst för sin familj, min fru är egen företagare och jag har tagit ut mer än henne för det är vettigast för oss. Men jag klagar inte. =)
@@MrHenrikAndersson Jaha, jo fast det är minst 3 månaders pappaledighet, resten får föräldrarna bestämma själva så vitt jag vet. Ja jag tycker att just denna fråga är en fråga där staten vet bättre än individen, alla har ju faktiskt inte bra relationer men kanske är fast i den ändå av ekonomiska eller andra skäl. Men det jag skrev tidigare är iaf anledningen till varför vi har 3 månaders pappaledighet idag och varför det kanske inte är så smart att låta alla bestämma själva.
Jo, jag vet hur försäkringen fungerar. Men det blir en dissonans mellan ens idé om personlig frihet och familjen som en enhet å ena sidan, å andra en där somliga missbrukar det. Det jag vill komma till är att det är inte bara en så enkel fråga om att kvinnor tjänar mindre och stannar hemma.
@@MrHenrikAndersson Nehe, nej ja okej, jo förstår att fler problem kan uppstå, men det största problemet har ju ändå varit könsroller och kvinnors utsatthet i jobb- och arbetsmarknader samt efter jobb. Men får ju se vart majoriteten lider som mest och välja det alternativ där minst människor råkar illa ut. Sen skulle det ju vara jättebra om det fanns något som löste både och, men ta hand om det stora problemen först och sedan kan man börja fokusera på de mindre känner jag.
Nehe, nej ja okej, jo. Att "kvinnolöner" var något som existerade för 40 år sedan är ju rimligtvis inget som bör påverka hur vi stiftar lagar idag. Om vi tittar på skillnaden på löner, rensat för sektor, utbildning, sjukskrivning o.s.v, det som brukar kallas "samma lön för samma jobb". Då skiljer det runt 3%. Att en familj skulle göra den bedömningen att den ena partnern ska stanna hemma p.g.a. den skillnaden är 0.
If whether or not sweden should take fewer refugees is a tricky question you really should check your moral compass. Refugees flee to come here, to survive and to get a life worth living. Their right to live is just as important as my right to live. It saddens me that people think I deserve to be here but people who has fled here on foot through Europe don't. If we can't share our wealth with those in need then there's no hope for this world. Edit: spelling
Whether or not we should take fewer refugees is a tricky question even if your moral compass is all right. If you don't want to accept any refugees, your moral compass is fucked up, but there's absolutely room for discussing where you draw the line.
Sweden should stop taking in refugees. It should send them to diffrent EU countries because we have to many that can't integrate and are jobless, homeless etc.
The last question is a though one. I am not sure what I truly think about it either. But don’t forget all the family’s in Sweden where the mum would benefit A LOT on having the government on her side if she wants to work, but her husband/family/social norms won’t let her. Sometimes a little push in the right direction makes things happen faster on equality matters :) But yeah, it’s the issue with the government intervening in family issues that is a heavy argument against it.
Immigrants can come to Sweden in MODERATION....If they get a job, if they learn the language, if they respect our laws and our way of life. They can't do that? Get out!
Love from Indonesia, I love all your video content make me understand more about Sweden, cos I have Swede BF & he live in Stockholm, we discussed a lot of things thanks to U.
Think about the latency between the actual immigration and the time it has an effect. It takes, in average, 12 years for a Somali immigrant to be able to support himself (one person).
The swedish dude has better english than most americans. Including my self
How the f is that happend?
Myself* Don’t know if pun or not. ;)
RoMMeL1337ak47 it’s really not that deep
Everybody just ignore the racist Rommel
RoMMeL1337ak47 Well thinking that a certain ethnic group are barbaric is infact racist. Literally the definition of racism.
The swedish dude was superb at english.
He sounds brittish
He does
His English is awesome! He lived in London for a little bit as a child, but when he hangs out with me long enough he starts to pick up the American accent 🙈😄
Swedese are in general very good:)
He is so educated and smart. I want him back on another video 🙏
you guys I'm an immigrant in Sweden, I've lived in Iran, trust me the prayer are super loud!!😂😂
Centerpartiet is not a Conservative party, they are liberals.
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JK ’ you got a point
LillKrull Centerpartiet is liberal economically as well. Liberal as in free market liberalism. The definition of liberalism as an ideology is unchanging, regardless of national standards. America has corrupted the terms "conservative vs liberal" into basically meaning "right vs left" or "republican vs democrat". Traditionally, conservatism is a very different ideology to liberalism. Besides perhaps SD, the parliament of Sweden has no conservative parties.
None of your business, well in Sweden well yes SD is the only moderately conservative party, but conservative isn't really a thing in Sweden, it's a bunch of socialists that wished they were as left leaning as the communists, and then there are the Social Democratic parties that are the most left leaning right wingers imaginable.
And if we grouped the parties into 3 categories, then we get.
Socialists - Green Party, Left Party, Social Democrats...
Social Democrats - The Christian Democrats, The Liberals, The Centrists, The Moderates...
Conservative - Sweden Democrats.
The list is weird in that that we have 2 super socialist parties and one slightly socialist party and then everyone else is a Social democrat and 2 of the Social Democrat parties are even named after being in the center. The Centrists and the moderates. The Liberals used to be called the people's party, now I don't know if they got scared of their own name once they learned English and got a hold of that all Dictator nations are named that.
@@mysigt_ KD...
Really glad you havn't stopped making videos Stefan! I hope you will find purpose and meaning somewhere in Sweden, unless you already have of course! :)
In sweden there’s a very high importance of equality between men and women. Everyone is the same basically. Therefore I think it’s very strange that you would employ people based on what they have between their legs and not their competence. Könskvotering is a radical idea that should not be imposed.
SlushPanic TV actually they employ men that are less educated than women. There are more women that have exams from universitybut still companies employ men that has not even gone one course at one. That is because many men employ men. Also women employ men.
@@zeffe0528 but the problem is that this is not the case for all companies, take DICE for example, the swedish game developer studio. They have around 94% men and 6% woman in the studio, why? Because men are more into games than womens and want to work with that because of that factor, so if könskvotering would be added it would mean that the company needs to search for woman that would replace the men that were in the studio before, even if they are maybe doing the job worse or are not into it as much. Sure there are some woman who like the job too but there is usually more men. So because of this, men would have a lower chance to get employed just because there are less woman in the market (more men will need to fight for one job than woman will do for another). This would not be equal at all and it's wrong because of this. There is not really a problem with that 96% are men in a company, people that work SHOULD NEVER get evaluated because their gender, only their skill. But this system would judge them for their gender. Just another stupid feminist idea.
@@zeffe0528 a university degree doesn't make you good in what you do.
@@zeffe0528 do you really think a company would employ a man over a woman if it hurt their bottom line?
@@AlexanderCorinUC79vSK women love games as much as men do, but women don't see female game developers so they don't think that's something they can do. hire more female game developers and more girls will gravitate towards it. it's an art like any other. women like art. that's like saying women don't like movies as much as men, that's why there are so few female directors. it just isn't true. there are less female directors because the business is sexist and won't give women a chance. people have to be forced to hire women and people of color because otherwise they'll just hire another average white dude.
Omg the guy with the jeans jacket was so good at english, the girl was also really good
I’m lucky my friends in Stockholm speak amazing English. The girl in the video actually studies in Florida right now :)
About the maternity and peternety leave. In Sweden the leave is 480 days/child , 90 days is tied to each parent and can't be given to the other one. The parent are free to decide themselves over the remaining 300 days.
And vab when they don't want to do the job.
@@FalconLover05 right, and children get sick only on sunny days apparently!!!
@@FalconLover05 look up sarcasm in a dictionary or online!
@@FalconLover05 F off moron.
In the U.S., you get 12 weeks of unpaid leave lol. And many employers will find a way to fire you if you even try to take that.
Nowadays, a Muslim can put the call to prayers as a reminder in his phone. It does not need to be relayed over loudspeakers to ten thousand non Muslims in your tiny community.
Christians are free to ring their church bells, so why should muslims not be allowed to call to prayer?
Church bells have been ringing here since before there was a Sweden.
@@ErikaLindberg Because one is a musical sound, while the other is a publicly blasted religious/ideological proclamation containing a confession of faith. Besides, most swedish churches don't even use their bells anyway.
Perfect for death metal then lol
@@ErikaLindberg I only hear the bells ring out the time never connected to any religios service
I did the test with you guys and when you skipped I felt so lonely and had to use google translate 😔
Ahhh I feel your pain, I wanted to post more but I figured a 30 min video was already on the long side 🙈😏
What did you get?
But thank you for showing this, of course 😅 it was fun and educational.
I should vote for Vänster party ✌🏻
V Vendet Communist
•SKRÄP• I figured. 🙂
13:56 böneutrop is not alot of people gathering in the same place and pray together, böneutrop is when they have huge speakers and shout their prayer so half a town can hear it. And it needs to be banned.
Centerpartiet is technically pretty much in the middle (leaning a bit more right than left) but they team up with the blue parties (”Aliansen”)
And Kristdemokraterna were a religous parti and are based on Christian values but isn’t a religous parti anymore 😊
Kristdemokraterna is VERY religiously based though, especially when it comes to abortion, hbtq (etc) and for example the böneutrop question campared to pretty much all other parties :)
+Johanna Sarkar
Centerpartiet kanske ses som center i Sverige men de är rätt vänster i globala mätningar :P
Sonny Knutson Jo, men jag menade i jämförelse med de andra svenska partierna 😊
Johanna Sarkar Kristdemokraterna still have religious values but not as much as before
Sonny Knutson tbh så är nog alla svenska partier ganska vänster i globala mätningar ;)
This whole government being separate from the people thing that you mention several times seems to be a stereotypical american difference. In Sweden, most people dont mind paying taxes or government involvement because there is a general feeling that the government is employed by the people, they work for us and are part of the people. There is no "the man"
Väldigt roligt att se ditt perspektiv på svensk politik!
That Swedish dude is so freaking smart and thoughtful. Vem du än är, du är en genial kompis.
it is not racist to say dot take in more refuges
No, not racist but inhumain.
Maléna P: Med tanke på din värdelösa engelska antar jag att du är svensk. Hur är det inhumant att hjälpa folk på plats där man hjälper miljoner i läger än att ta emot 100 000 till Sverige och belasta välfärden totalt?
@@DramaQueenMalena inhumane to the Swedish country and its people if its not done properly
@@DramaQueenMalena depends alot of these people are not exactly from war zones. Also we cant help everybody becuse we have limited rescourses( we where only 9 million). We cant help the entire world.
I'm from Switzerland we are 8 Million and a smaller country and we have the same discussions. I believe Sweden does a great job with the refugees. Better than we do and certainly better than most other countries. Like climate change and poverty: This is a problem no country can solve by it's own. And we can't solve it by not taking people in, the world is changing.... Trying to stop change never worked. We have to find new solution.
it would be cool for them to do a American political quiz
Hmm that is a great idea! :)
Stephanie Vazquez Agree! 😄
But it would be really vague if it's based on political parties, cause the Democratic Party can range from Social Democrats like Bernie Sanders to Corporate Centrists like Hillary Clinton. And the Republican Party has a ton of different views too, but I guess it would work if it's based on candidates' views or ideologies.
They wouldn’t be Republican. The Republicans hold no values that exist in Scandinavia, so they’d be Democrats.
literally i just started looking at a similar quiz for America and the 6th question was should teachers carry guns to fight against school shooters. america is off the spectrum.
Actually Sverigedemokraterna is the most conservative party!
When your friend said that he want anyone to get the chance to move anywhere, that really surprised me because I’ve NEVER met anyone who think the same way I do. That’s really interesting. I’d like to have discussions with him about this!
We live in the EU where we're free to work and live in a pretty wide area as Swedes. Our passport also gives us a lot of freedom of travel. I agree with you and him and I don't think our opinion is very unique. :)
erika but for me it is because anyone else I’ve met and started this subject with always begin their sentence with “yeah but...” and come up with problems to why this would never work. Politics, economy etc. I live in Sweden too but I know that people struggle in order to become citizens of a new country. If things worked my way, everyone would get to live any place they’d like. But reality doesn’t work like that though.
My Vegan Journey Yeah, reality is always difficult and complicated and issues get infected. But I think opinions like these are grounded in a very pure sense of humanity, and following your heart in politics, whether in elections or actual active and practiced politics, will make the world a better place. I strongly relate to people responding to me with "yeah but…." in political discussion, many agree in a sense but also can not see it implemented realistically, and that's why I do believe that ideology should be a major part of our decisions in elections. Many have lost faith, they believe we won't be able to do better, but on my best days I do believe so, and I think that as long as we believe, we can do!
Of course it can happen if politicians let it happens. The world is changing and a lot of barriers that were put to separate us from each other are coming down. We enclosed ourselves into frontiers and borders that don't exist naturally, while we are all born free and equal. It's very natural to seek for better conditions to live a prosperous life. People who are afraid or don't understand it, should look back at their history books and fear doesn't justify everything ;)
i xdklp this is so true! And a really good argument to use in such discussions as well. If it was up to me we wouldn’t have countries or barriers that makes it more difficult for us to move.
The Swedish guy made a mistake with calling Socialdemokraterna socialists. They are not socialists, theyre social democrats similar to Bernie Sanders in the US. Vänsterpartiet is the true socialist party as their program includes abolishing capitalism long term, while social demokraterna support a capitalistic free market but with a tax rate that supports things like the the swedish health care system etc and they dont have anything in their program about abolishing capitalism.
Du socialerna är socialister är du helt dum i huvudet dem heter ju det förrihellvete they are a bit commies too
They are little shits dat fucked up our country
I think it's scary how Vänsterpartiet is growing so much.
clueless guy Ja, de heter social demokraterna inte socialist demokraterna. Om du inte förstår att det är skillnad så är du riktigt dum i huvudet ärligt talat
Steffe kallar ju sig själv socialist
Why would ”böneutrop” be allowed in Sweden? If i would move to a country with a different main religion then i am used to i wouldnt open a church and blast bell sounds and if i did i would be punished hard so why should we allow it here? I can see why people would like to have it here but i think it takes away the Swedish tradition
It has to do with freedom of speach and freedom of religion. In front of laws everything should be equal.
I agree, they don't need to shout it out over the public that doesn't want anything to do with it. Just have it inside the mosque.
@@Shiva182Katarina the areas where they are situatiated are the slums mostly( aka refuge territory). So no it does not really distub them. It is also like once a week at a certian time.
You maybe not. But it isn't like Christian s never went to another country and didn't build churches and force their religion on other people.
@@onespiker almost. Freedom of religion also includes other people being free of your religion, you're not allowed to force it on other people
"You have to stand up for yourself as an employee, [and say] this is how much I'm worth." This really shows the american hypercapitalist mindset. Whether or not he did it intentionally, he literally just made the statement that it is acceptable to determine the worth of human beings monetarily, which almost all modern philosophers agree is a 'category error' which means they are not comparable units. Obviously this notion exists in Sweden because capitalism is built upon it, but capitalism seeks to hide it with the middleman of labor.
You basically make an agreement with your boss the moment you accept the job and sign the contract.
Great example of how the Swedish system can work. Theses questions challenge you to think about the issues and where you stand. It is NOT about personalities. All three of you do a good job of showing us how this works for each of you and why.
Before you say ok to "Böneutrop" you should know the translation of their prayer. What they say, is pretty much that the area belongs to the muslims.
Nope.
Being an immigrant myself, i agree with the supporting yourself argument, but refugees are a special case. As long as there's war in their country they can't go back. it's actually admirable that sweden helped out.
Dude in the denim jacket was just spitting facts the whole time.
no i don't agree!
i'm born and raised in sweden
and i would never go to my 2nd fave country Ireland so beautiful and their culture,the people and say -yes ireland should become a multiculti land!
"i moved there to experience ireland"
As a refugee. Don't you have to go to school and learn the language and try to get a job? My sister's and my dad and mom. Moved to Sweden from Iraq in 2005. My mom wanted to learn the language and she worked as well. My sister's one passed away and the other one she's 26. Speaks 4 languages finished her school. Worked as a nurse. Now she's going to higher study and she's the youngest to go to that class among everyone else. And I as an immigrant to the U.S. who is now an American citizen. I wish America follow the Swedish model In treating environment and ppl. I wonder if Sweden had any refugees from the middle East b4 all the wars that accused in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan!! Ppl wanna go to Europe as tourists not refugees. I liked Sweden since I was a kid and still my favorite country. Not bcs the money they pay ppl, but the structure, safety, respecting human rights and abba my favorite band.
? We have quite alot of refugees or economic migrants. Highest per capita in europe. It has become the biggest problem in Sweden.
Well inside the EU it depends on the country. Some countries say that as immigrant you have to learn the language within one year (or at least start learning it) while refugees first have to do this after 3 years. Refugees often are seen as some who move back to theire original country within a limited time. Like the german minister responsible for for refugees last year still said that the refugees (guess he talks about the 1,5 million refugees germany has, mainly from Syriah) are going to move back home. Therefore governments often don't integrate refugees as much as they would do with immigrants.
I'm sorry for your loss of one of your sisters.
_I wonder if Sweden had any refugees from the middle East b4 all the wars that accused in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan_
Yes, Sweden has a lot of refugees from the Middle East.
Of the asylum seekers who has come to Sweden in 2018 so far, 1,863 were from Syria, 892 were from Irak, 570 from Afganistan and 193 from Yemen.
Of the asylum seekers who came in 2017, 4,718 were from Syria, 1,886 were from Iraq, 1,680 from Afganistan and 146 from Yemen.
Of the asylum seekers who came in 2016 1,863 came from Syria, 892 came from Iraq, 570 from Afganistan and 193 from Yemen.
Of the asylum seekers who came in 2015 51,338 were from Syria, 20,857 from Iraq, 41,564 from Afganistan and 442 from Yemen.
About 56 % of the people who apply for asylum get to stay.
@@onespiker I get what u saying. Yet Europe is 500 million. Middle East is not even 200 million. There is 4 million refugees in Jordan than Germany. Back in the day ppl in Iraq bcs the economy was good and no wars. Ppl usually have summer homes in Europe for vacation. Iraq had the strongest currency. What i am saying is every time I come to Sweden. I see more refugees driving busses, nurses, doctors, artists. Some of are educated enough to love the Swedish model and we not only wanna live that model but we wanna be part of and make it more progressive and modern. Yes I was born in Iraq. Yes I am an American citizen. But never lik3d roads like I did in Sweden, and the magical winter of Stockholm. Not all refugees are bad just like not all German are Nazi and all white ppl are invader. United States for example don't have issues with refugees especially Muslims as much as they do with native born in America. Catholic churches for example.!!
Rslee Lee We recieved some 400 000 refugees
I really like you doing this! It is good to discuss politics since it affects us all, and usually a lot of people have important takes on an issue.
About Böneutrop: The sound that comes from a minaret from a mosque is usually a “call to come to pray” not an actual prayer. Today it is used in, i think 2 places in the whole country. Today it can be disallowed or infringed due to if it is disturbing people around. So it is about both freedom of religion and noice.
The thing is that if everyone has to hear it, that infringes on their freedom of religion; they're not allowed to not partake in Islam. Sweden is not a muslim country, nor will it never be allowed to be. We can't have anyone in here who will not respect the continued dominance of Swedish culture.
Part of what was pushing things to the "right" of the spectrum was that here Stefan was bringing in a lot of beliefs rooted in the American framework (things like "the employer should be able to decide what they pay people", it's up to individuals to bargain their own wages, and frequent references to the idea of people supporting themselves through work, which socialism recognises isn't always possible and that it's about everyone being supported by the whole). Some of the things he was saying are very much American beliefs that are not necessarily tied to the fact that they create positive outcomes, it's more what is felt to be true or important that doesn't necessarily have evidence.
Both sides of the spectrum can do this in advocating what's "true" or "right" or even what "happens in reality", but the fact that the Nordic countries have the results they do socially and have a VERY different approach to the States suggests that starting from what America does isn't the right way to go into this conversation. It's interesting that I've watched later episodes and Stefan has clearly moved on some of these positions as he's clearly gotten the point of this through his Swedish lived experience.
The refugee question is a difficult one. I moved to Sweden last year (specifically Norrköping), I am in SFI (Swedish for Immigrants). For those who don't know, SFI is free school offered for those who need to learn or fine tune their Swedish. The whole system is overwhelmed with the amount of refugees and immigrants coming in. Even though SFI is short staffed and their money is being stretched for books, other supplies and paying staff, what I love about it is it encourages us to dive into Swedish social culture and the working world. For example, last week we had a speaker come and talk to us about restaurant work, offering a course in restaurant knowledge that does not interfere with our classes. There are also courses one can take to learn the specific vocabulary for the job they want or perhaps a similar / same one they had in their homeland. Sweden does a wonderful job ingratiating and encouraging people, but I can definitely understand why it is also beneficial to decrease the amount of people we accept because of the resources being stretched as far as they are.
First question was a total misunderstanding: tax on wealth (assets) is NOT the same as tax, on high income. The swedish guy fucked up the translation: he should have said tax on people with big fortunes (förmögenhetsskatt) - NOT tax on people with high salary income - The meaning lost in translation :-)
I love your conversation about all the questions in the quiz/poll...very nice thoughts! :)
Ska vi hjälpa människor som flyr för sina liv? Tjejen: "I love travelling!"
Visst måste det vara skönt och mysigt att vara så naiv.
Jag uppfattar henne som någon som gör det som känns ok en feel good människa. Tror inte att hon skulle acceptera att en fattig bonde från något u land kom hit(även om alternativet var svält till döds). Jag säger inte att hon tänker rasistiskt utan bara ytligt. Själv så tycker jag att det är sjukt att samhället vi lever i idag behöver en ökad folkmängd för att fungera. Så i praktiken om vi får få barn(el folk flyttar) här så måste vi ta in fler invandrare utifrån. Vi lever i en expansion som aldrig tar slut. Vi är uppenbart för många mot vad vi gör av med olja mm. Men endå så gråter nästan politikerna i tv över att vi måste bli flera.
@@Alienshade Det är så ekonomi fungerar, den måste alltid öka annars imploderar den, där av förstör vi jorden som vi gör bara för att få fram mer råvaror.
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These are the type of girls that guys marry, LOL
25:38 "so you're more liberal in Sweden", Yes, no, maybe? The American term for "liberal" is pretty much the same as your term for "democrat", which includes Liberals *and* more left-wing socialist-type of politics (such as social-democracy). What we call in Sweden a liberal, is a rightwing. I guess this reflects the political history of Sweden and America quite a bit...
And the term "conservative" only means that you would want to bring back the times of old (Edit: or rather change in a slow pace), which technically could mean left politics, there are, for example, people who think Sverigedemokraterna (the nationalists and conservatives) are too far left.
They use liberal as a way to describe social issues in America. In Europe we use the economic term, so it's confusing when mixing them.
I really wish I could understand this hella clearly but I suck at politics so yeah we love that lol
Being conservative means that you think the society should progress in increments, giving time to reflect on the changes. It is not about being regressive.
+Henrik Andersson Yeah, I guess that's a more accurate way of describing it. It's still not always rightist, "the most radical revolutionary will become a conservative the day after the revolution".
@@MrHenrikAndersson it could be mate accurately described as "don't fix what isn't broken"
I live in one of the few cities in sweden who have a "böneutrop". three minutes and 45 seconds, once a week. I haven't heard it once. And it's not a large city.
Frida Törner vilken stad?
11:45 "I like traveling so" omg swedish naive kicks in hahahah
he's not naive, you can't just ask a swede about immigration
The Center party is the "Farmers party". Historically they are in the center and promoted farmers interests, but they have a urban faction (stureplanscentern) that has adopted a more liberal ("libertarian" for you Americans) view and they currently hold power in the party. The dynamic between the urban part and the farmers part is complicated and they clash every now and then.
They are socially and economically liberal (i.e. for small government) except when it comes to the environment and rural politics where they support government intervention (i.e. farm subsidies, tax on foreign agricultural products etc).
Centerpartiet are a liberal party. They are not as much to the right as moderaterna.
liberal ideology is more right than the rest of the parties.
Centerpartiet are neoliberalists. They like to hurt the sick and poor.
This "election compass" is good since you can read each party's reasoning as you take it and see how you line up with each party afterwards, even individual representatives.
I never push my opinion on people, but what they should have done in the video is to try and connect all the questions. Some issues that need to be dealt with is directly connected to other issues. Like the housing crisis/the job crisis are connected to the amount of immigrants we allow. Less immigrants more housing and jobs for people in the country. I'm not against immigration, i just think it's being handled poorly.
The question about muslims prayers were they shout out the prayer is actually a kind of confession of the religion where the prayers are told that Allah is the only god and such. And people in Sweden are not that religious so they don't wanna hear that. Yet they say its the same thing as when our church rings the bell but the bell only rings to tell us that it is an hour until prayer and now the prayer starts and it is not even every church. Anyone else that sees the different?
The point of inträdesjobb för nyanlända is that refugees or immigrants in general often have a hard time finding work in Sweden - And a lot of them are hired illegaly and paid less money and have no employment securities or benefits. So the point is to make immigrants and refugees be able to get work legally, which will help them be integrated into society and be more motivated to learn Swedish. There’s been big problems with integration of immigrants/refugees into Swedish society so the law is supposed to help the integration problems.
Have to point out that immigrants are fully legally able to get legal jobs, but because they often lack education they have a hard time doing so. An argument against inträdesjobb is that these already poor and alienated societies get even more poor and alienated because of the way lower pay the swedish right wants them to have. Once employers get away with giving employees way lower pay than is allowed now they won't be willingly give them a raise even though they eventually would have learned the job. This could lead to more segregation in the long run.
Another reason why some parties are sceptical about this is the way that the salaries and terms are negotiated (called "den svenska modellen"), where the workforce is organised in unions which negotiates the terms and salaries. Thus, the government today has no influence on the salaries (e.g. there is no minimum salary) and some are afraid that introducing inträdesjobb could lead to social dumping. They instead argue that the government should stay out of it and trust that the labour market knows best, which has been precedence for about 100 years ago since an agreement between labour unions and Social Democrats.
Regarding the paternity/maternityleave. It is enforced somewhat today, and that rule is considered one of the most impactful policys for increased equality. In 1980 only 5% of the leave was taken by men, by 1995 a 30 out of 225 days were locked to one partner, in 2002 that was increased to 60 out of 225. The year after, in 2003, 17% of the leave was taken by men. Today about 25% of the leave is taken by men. So it is still highly unequal but it is slowly getting better.
I was in Sweden this summer and it surprised me the amount of men I saw with their babies! I was really happy to see that
Thank you for the information, Alice.
No wonder your man more feminine than real woman.
The main argument for the parental leave act is so that the parents income doesn't determine who stays home with the child.
Question 9. No not all companies. Companies big enough to be introduced to a trading exchange (like Dow Jones or OMX). So not the hairdresser on the corner, as long as they are not part of a big chain ofcourse. I have heard sometimes that there are more men called like Anders (a common swedish man's name) in Swedens "börsbolag" than women.
I think we should take a look at Finland, they have to pay off their house mortgage in 20 year and they have the lowest mortgage interest rates in the EU....just saying!
I have one though about the Adhan (Muslimskt böteutrop) that you guys missed, to compare the Adhan with a racist gathering is a bit weird. What would you think if they played parts of "Mein Kampf" at the same intervals as the Adhan?
In my mind all religion is extremism, what you do in your household is one thing but to publicly proclaim your religion is something that should be controlled.
... we already have just look on statistics. It fell by 98% it is now the problems of all the ones already here
haha youre hated js FUCKING f****
Does that mean you’re against church bells?
Religionsphobic.
Thank you for an interesting and honest video! It was really interesting to listen to your opinions and discussions. Definitely gave me some new insights :)
The bit with the school was a... frightening bit of insight into the american mindset.
Allowing the free market and corporations to dictate how the key functions of society (education, health care, law enforcement etc) operates is pure madness.
It is the honorbound duty of those in power to make sure that society and the nation functions.
They can't do that without power over key aspects, the pillars of the nation if you will, outside of the hands of the people i.e. the elected officials and the state backed by the taxpayers.
Maybe it has something to do with how we in Sweden tend to think of the state as more of an extension and construct of the people.
Hence why we don't feel comfortable with having key societal functions in the hands of private interests (and thus in the hands of individuals, not the community and the people).
That, and we've learned from experience that privatizing things tend to invite unscrupulous, dangerously avaricious and downright criminal elements into those areas of subsequently emerging business.
Privatizing parts of the educational system and health care system have already shown a complete nose-dive in quality of care and education, for instance.
Also, you guys are blue as shite =P. Do you even know anyone who works for a living?
I'm an American and I agree with you that the American mindset on many of these issues is dangerous. Our government is completely corrupt. I wish I lived in Sweden.
Stefan, I know this is a pretty old video but I have a question. You said that you tend to lean conservative on financial issues and that the environment is your biggest issue, so what do you think about taking on financial risks to create real progress toward environmental goals? I loved listening to this conversation by the way. I learned a lot and felt that you guys were thoughtful in a lot of your responses.
I can see where your coming from when it comes to immigrants coming to Sweden and not contributing to society, but the question was specifically for refugees, meaning they have no choice but to flee their own country. So as much as I can agree on both viewpoints when it comes to immigrants, I just think you missed the question. Should Sweden take in less refugees, aka people who have fled their country because of war and oppression?
The problem with parental leave is that in many cases women are in lower paying jobs and therefore are more likely to stay at home. Meaning the child/father bonding is more likely to be lost.
Well, many people think that Kristdemokraterna is a religious party, and it's true that it's build on Christian values. But there's still non-Christians in the party, and I don't think they consider themselves as a "Christian party" - just a party with Christian values, I think (but I'm not a part of them so I'm not totally sure).
And on this link you can see the Swedish parties on both the left-right and GAL-TAN scale, and also a few politicians from other countries in Europe. It would be interesting to see something like this but with both Swedish and American politicians, but I don't know how to find that. sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=6924173
This made for an interesting watch. It's nice to get some new perspectives on topics like these, especially when points of view and expressed opinions are shared in a non-confrontational way such as this. Trying to have a balanced conversation about politics is in no way an easy task, as far as my experience goes.
könskvotering isn’t for hiring normal positions like hair dressers and mechanics. It is for the board of company’s which you can by stock in
Do u guys live in THE country Side of Stockholm or? PS. Love to see your thinking of Sweden from an American perspective👊. // From an Swede
Muslim prayers in question could never be called freedom of speech. Sure, you are allowed to say pretty much what you'd like, but certainly not in ANY WAY you'd like. There are only a few mosques in Sweden who are permitted to do this today (and only once on fridays), none in Norrköping which is why you probably haven't heard it. Should you do the same (in either Sweden or America) you would certainly be arrested for public disorder or something similar. We are talking about speakers sending out 110 dB (same as concerts are allowed as for volume) in household areas.
If you allow church bells you should allow mosque prayers. These two things share the same fundamental function in religion.
Propaganda for Islam? The call to prayer basically says "God is The Greatest. Hurry to prayer, Hurry to success" .
In Aerököping in Denmark the local church play a melody for 3 minutes at 8 and 18. And every hour it strikes the time (so six times at 6 and 18 (after the melody)) an then one every half hour. That is very disturbing I think, but its ok for a church to play loud every hour just because it is tradition. So for me, either you say that NO religious building may disturb, or they all can.
In Saudi Arabia they ban churches. If you want to practice your religion only in your home. so i think Sweden should do the same as well, let the muslims practice their religion quietly
But Saudi is not a democracy isn't it? They don't build upon same principles as Sweden. A democracy doesn't work like "if something isn't allowed in that dictatorship then it's not allowed in our democracy either."
And what about the Swedish Muslims, those whom have converted to Islam? What kind of connection do they have with Saudi? What does any Muslims except the minority that's actually from saudi have to do with that country? Why do people always bring up saudi as some kind of perfect example when it certainly isn't?
hahah as a swede, it was soo exciting to watch you, as an american, take that quiz. I actually thought you would be like more conservative than you were just because the USA, in my opinion, is very right winged. And sure, your results showed a clear right wing but on the other hand you voted a couple of questions as I, a passionate member of Vänsterpartiet, would. For example, the question of könskvotering. I actually sat here the whole video and there were soo many things I wanted to say to you, so many other perspectives I wanted to be seen. Politics has always been kind of a passion of mine just because I think it is so important and actually a responsibility we have to be aware of them. Democratic rights means democratic responsibilities, kind of. And just because I choose to be well educated in field I feel like I have a pretty good knowledge of both pro's and con's within each proposion that I wanted sooo bad to be able to share with you. The guy actually knew quite a bit but as said, there were a cuple of perspectives he did not brought up, or at least did not say in the video. I also feel like you should have taken one left winged person and one right winged to give you different perspectives even though I do not think your results would have differed very much from what they are now. It is just important to get to know both sides. Also, I became quite happy hearing you guys discuss the matter actually just because I think all of you was really humle and really tried to think about pro's and con's and revaluate your opinions. That is a really good trait and something I think most of us could improve because often, when going into discussions, we have already made up our minds which makes the discussion quite pointless. And once again, it was really interesting hearing you talk, just because your opinions differed from mine. I would say we have the same values but a key point, which makes us vote different, is the fact that I do not consider freedom equals not having the state telling us partly what to do in some cases. I consider freedom being having the possibility to choose for yourself and just because I think that our possibilities differ so much depending on for example your class. If your parents are low class you have not got the same possibilities as someone of high class in terms of, for example school and health care and I think that is very unfair and a waste of talent of those born low class. I think we all would have benefit from having those people being able to have a well paid job and therefore being able to give more back to the society in taxes. And because of this I think the state should give us the same possibilities meaning it has to compensate those born low class for having less possibilities to begin with. Now I have to go but I really enjoyed the video and I admire you guys for being brave enough to talk about this openly. We all need to discuss this more and realize we have a lot to learn from each others perspectives because no one can know everything
We have free education and free healthcare here in sweden so I'm not sure what your on about, and I dont think someone who is well educated in politics or history would vote for vänsterpartiet.
Killen, mannen till höger har ett hjärta av guld! faaan vad bra du är.... Empati, kärlek och förstånd! Tack!
I know this is an older video so you probably won't read this but I really enjoy when you shoot the video outdoors 💖
“I love travelling so...”being a refugee isn’t about loving to travel. It’s about not having your homeland as a place of safety... where war has ravaged it, these are innocent civilians who are casualties of war.
would you release the whole thing with the rest of the questions i would really love to see it ???
Props to Sefan for sticking up to his values.
Ok, så jag är helt förälskad i Joel! Vilken man!!! Du har dina prioriteringar rätt och jag älskar dig så mycket!!! Hopas jag ser mer av dig när ser tillbaka på alla videos jag missat sista året!
Joel seem to have understood what it means to be human! Never lose your conscience!
The irony of certain people talking about having a conscience is astounding. I'm sure they're all great people, but I won't lend you my dog.
I feel like you guys missed the whole point on why they argue about paying your mortgage. Basically, if you only pay interest, your loan will stay at the same rate and it is a greater financial risk if interest rates go up. Basically, it is a way of limiting the risk of a financial crisis where the government needs to bail out banks to save people from getting ruined by their house loans.
This Thursday I was on a debate with my School, and they talked and so on but one thing that caught my attention a bit more than everything else was that "Vänsterpariet" said something about the school that they wanted... They said that they wanted to remove grades in Swedish school for some reasons and that it would randomly choose who enters a specific high school. I have some huge problems with this.
1. Removing grades maybe reduce stress levels but it's gonna be way harder for companys to judge how good people are when they hire someone, people with forein names will have less chance to get a job and so on...
2. That it randomly would choose who enters a high scool??? WTF so if I work my ass of in school I would have same chance to enter as someone that doesnt care a shit about school.
Give me a favour and do not ever vote for Vänsterpartiet. I know we have voting rights in Sweden and no one should tell you what to vote for but seriously, this is so bad that I couldn't believe it.
You make some very valid points. I tend to think grades in school is a good thing! I wonder more about what their reasoning is.
1. Employers rarely if ever look at grades when they hire people. They look at their resume, what education and experience they have. Grades as a concept can be problematic in that they are highly inconsistent, an A at one school may be a completely different grade at another school.
2. I don't have a strong opinion either way (fritt skolval vs. .. inte fritt skolval), what I disagree with in your comment is that you think you should have a higher chance of entering high school than someone who doesn't care about school. We're talking about high school here. Every single person should go to high school or an alternative such as folkhögskola or komvux. It should be the bare minimum, in general. NO ONE should be denied to enter high school, as long as they have passing grades from högstadiet.
Think twice, you really want someone that really want to enter a Gymnasium have a chance to not get in and someone thats doesnt even care about that Gymnasium have the same chance... That means that the one that really want to get in has to wait another year or find something else, thats stupid. Why not work hard and have a garanteen chance to get in. If someone doesn't care about school thats their fault!
Dascend I can't tell if we're talking about different things or you're simply uninformed about the way the school admission system works in Sweden. My point is; you as a high performing student are not in any way competing with low-performing students in this country. Not even if the government was to remove fritt skolval and introduce Vänsterpartiet's suggestion (which the government is highly unlikely to do). You will be fine. And low-performing students will keep their alternatives, god bless.
@@ErikaLindberg .. they do compete to get too the best schools though. The better the school the more you will most likely learn or find similar people to you.
Centerpartiet have been collaborating with the conservative parties for a decade or so. However this was done in order to break the political monopoly of Socialdemokraterna. Traditionally, Centerpartiet has been in the middle, collaborating with both sides.
My grandfather lives in Malaysia and I've visited a few times as well as many other Islamic nations and the Adhan(the Islamic call to worship) really becomes background noise after a week or so just like church bells, you tend to not register them every time. Adhan sounds way more pleasing than church bells but it has a lot more issues with it because of the words spoken so I really can not support it. My personal opinion is not to have church bells or Adhan because I don't think that it is healthy for our society and people but also that you have no right to oppose your religious beliefs on other people in a public space in that manner daily and especially not since these religions do not think kindly of HBTQIADP+ people, atheist, women, sinners, animals and people of other religions(to hear it sends a clear message that you are not welcome in this area).
@@Србомбоница86 it's literally just a song in another language, what's your damage.
Great video even though I disagree a lot with you:)
About parental leave, do you think vacation leave should be per family to?
Faktiskt väldigt spännande! 👍
Tax is what makes it possible for schools to be free, healthcare to cost almost nothing, and so on. Tax is good! This means that everyone has the same opportunity for good education and good healthcare.
I am from the Philippines and I find Sweden as a great humanitarian superpower! Love it, going to visit soon for a vacation. I believe in assimilation and pluralism. Having immigrants that are compatible with the host population is better for me.
Bullshit
The Employer tax is that when some one gets hired. the employer has to pay the same amount of money in tax that they pay to the empoye. so if they reduse the tax for the employer dosnt meen that he has to pay les money to who hes hiring thats where the Faculty comes into place and stopps the emploier to pay less money.
"Socialdemokraterna are socialist" Nice meme
They are pretty left though
Nah not any longer. Stefan is a joke. The real Socialdemokraterna are Vänsterpartiet now
@@angelofdeath7739 no socialdemocrats are still social democrats. The only diffrence is that they fucked up and dont want to admit it. Vänsterpartiet are the far left party that think that communism is good.
Hahaha at first I thought you were calling me a joke and then I realize you were talking about the prime minister
HHAhAHAHAH No man
Entry level job isn’t about what you spoke about. As your self you are a qualified teacher you will get the same salary as a teacher in Sweden. The point is that immigrant with low education to get a “easier” job with a lower salary but be able to provide for them self and not get subsidized by the state. Easier job could be like “bag boys/girls” at a store. Which is a job we don’t have in Sweden today
omg that guy on the right is so handsome, is he a supermodel?
Adam Bonham I mean he’s a swede. Basically every Swedish man is good looking.
All three are beautiful. Swedish people are all gorgeous.
I think its a evolution .its really hard for ugly people to have childern . .
About the entry jobs, it's intended to help immigrants get into the job market since we currently have a high unemployment ratio for immigrants so it's intended to make companies favor hiring someone who's an immigrant to help them get a job in Sweden, this would generally be for jobs that required no previous experience such as working at a fast food restaurant, trash collectors aso. the way this was stated in this video made it sound like something different.
About the maternity/paternity leave, the reason this is suggested is that women in general make less money than men and one of the reasons for this is because they tend to stay home more when they have kids which makes them less desirable to hire. If it was a forced 50/50 that wouldn't be the case. There's also studies that shows that kids who grow up with both parents equally present do better later on. That's at least what the suggested law was trying to fix
It's actually Bernie Sanders' birthday today, how weird
Happy bernieday!
Why do you know that?
Holy fuck, the idea that these people might be voting is truly scary.
What's wrong with "sit on a place forever"?
(I live in a house that has been in my family for many generations; I see that as a good thing.)
Well if you own a house it makes sense to stay forever. I'm not super educated on the issue but from what I was thinking in the video was that it if people don't make payments towards a property they purchased it would be better if someone else purchased the property who actually has the means to pay for it.
That's true. But the main problem is that the banks lend you money that they don't have backing for (say, in gold). They are basically allowed to print money (electronically). Hence the constant risk for bubbles that will eventually burst, in Sweden or in the US.
Herr Friberger, exactly. Whether the buyer is paying the loan, or has finished paying the loan, they have the right to live in their own home. Just because you can't find a place to live doesn't mean you can take away someone else's home. That's wrong.
Housing is not just for the rich, Stefan. The buyer paid their down payment to the bank, which is not cheap. The bank gave them a loan that was right for the buyer. The buyer pays the loan that was selected for them. That's it; the buyer has now bought the house. They own it.
Stefan, thank you so much for your video. I have been in Sweden 7 months and also I can not vote of course, but my landlord was kind of trying to explain me what was going on with politics here and I got super scared because he told me that one "Party" wanted to literally send all immigrants back to our countries, I was guessing he was only misinterpreting everything and with your video I have a better understanding on what is going on.
The sensationalism is insane.
So, if you like economic freedom and social freedom, why not vote for that in America?
As you actually do have a party whose policies align perfectly with that.
I am of course talking about the Libertarian Party.
He doesn't believe in austrian economics nor does he believe in absolute freedom.
Merecir Because social programs are popular and moslty effective.
Mostly, until they collapse and cause more harm in the crash than a sensible deconstruction could ever do.
Based on your answers and what you said in the end by thinking enviroment, social equality and neoliberal markets being important you should doubtlessly vote Centerpartiet. I am not being subjective here though since I am a member of another swedish party, just basing it on your results.
Himla PK
Question 3. My understanding on the rules that you have to pay back some of the mortage in the beginning. It stems from that the government have seen that a lot of citizens are just paying the intrest on their loan. They risk having problem paying the monthly intrest when the intrest rates will start to rise again.
anyone supporting more immigrants should try to live in a no-go zone with lots of immigrants in Sweden.
Exactly!👍
I think there should be a hierarchy or a pyramid of immigrants.
1- Can speak the language of that country fluently and has at least undergraduate education.
2- Can speak English properly with at least undergraduate education.
3- High school education + some English
4- Undergraduate education + no English
5- Others.
After that, there should be an adaptation process. During the adaptation process, anyone who refuses to learn the official language of the country (or English) OR refusing to work in an honest job should be deported.
Allowing böneutrop doesn't negate the
Order Act. It's still not allowed make noise that disturbs the general public, they will have to adjust to that regardless.
I have done the this test. And I have the most procent towards(hard to explain), Miljöpartiet, Socialdemokraterna and Vänsterpartiet. Then I have Centerpartiet and Liberalerna. After them there are Moderaterna and Kristdemokraterna. Last Sverigedemokraterna(the party that will never have my vote.). Anyways. Politics is very complicated. Especially since this is the first time I vote.
Yeah politics today in Sweden have become really hard and complicated because now parties steal each others politics and stuff to win back voters you see it with S and M trying to win back voters from SD and S is also bleeding to V and M to C. Before like 20 to 50 years ago it was really simple you got 2 blocks 1 left wing and 1 right wing. But now SD getting into parliment and becoming a 3rd block and they are winning alot of votes and the old power parties just cant stand losing their power. SD has gained their votes through democracy and voters jumped to them because the 2 blocks did a bad job according to them. I can't vote I'm 16 hehe but I will get back the results for our school election today at 20:00 when they close the voting in the real election. I'm pretty sure M and SD will get alot of votes in the school election because thats were everyone were pretty much when they were at school. KD might get some because they were pretty great in the debate we had in school.
I've seen few people who managed to get high scores on Fi/V/KD and SD on FB
I think SD and KD have a few left leaning questions or somewhat mixed opinions compared to the alliance or red-greens, especially according to those tests.
I usually get very high on SD and very low on MP+V the rest ends up around 50-60%, i don't know how i manage with that considering what i though in my last sentence.
some people thinks compasses are rigged against SD, but i've also heard some people who hate SD but score high on them.
The reason some Swedish politicians wants to split maternity and paternity leave evenly is because it previously was a totally free choice (atm mandatory paternity leave 3 months?) and women suffered awful economic results. All women of Sweden had 40% less in "pension" than the men and could also not support themselves without their man's "pension", making a divorce impossible. They also suffered more from mental health issues and did most work at home, unpaid.
All because the majority of the time the family choose to have the woman stay home with their kids. This wasn't very weird though, seeing as men generally earned more and therefore, due to economic reasons, most families chose for the man to keep working.
Nowdays, the salary gap between men and women have decreased, but there's still the chance that many couples will choose for the woman to stay home, so to prevent women in Sweden from being chained to a man by their economic situations the government has decided to forcefully split the maternity/paternity leave more evenly.
Sry for the superlånga meddelandet, hope I enlightened you some. Have a great day!
Den enda anledningen till att jag är kluven i frågan om föräldrapenningen är p.g.a. min vän. Hans fru tilltvingade sig alla dagarna hon kunde, detta trots att han då hade ett helt horribelt tungt räligt jobb nere i hamnen i Malmö och ville inget annat än att vara hemma med barnen. I övrigt bör vuxna människor själva kunna bestämma vad som är bäst för sin familj, min fru är egen företagare och jag har tagit ut mer än henne för det är vettigast för oss.
Men jag klagar inte. =)
@@MrHenrikAndersson Jaha, jo fast det är minst 3 månaders pappaledighet, resten får föräldrarna bestämma själva så vitt jag vet. Ja jag tycker att just denna fråga är en fråga där staten vet bättre än individen, alla har ju faktiskt inte bra relationer men kanske är fast i den ändå av ekonomiska eller andra skäl. Men det jag skrev tidigare är iaf anledningen till varför vi har 3 månaders pappaledighet idag och varför det kanske inte är så smart att låta alla bestämma själva.
Jo, jag vet hur försäkringen fungerar. Men det blir en dissonans mellan ens idé om personlig frihet och familjen som en enhet å ena sidan, å andra en där somliga missbrukar det. Det jag vill komma till är att det är inte bara en så enkel fråga om att kvinnor tjänar mindre och stannar hemma.
@@MrHenrikAndersson Nehe, nej ja okej, jo förstår att fler problem kan uppstå, men det största problemet har ju ändå varit könsroller och kvinnors utsatthet i jobb- och arbetsmarknader samt efter jobb. Men får ju se vart majoriteten lider som mest och välja det alternativ där minst människor råkar illa ut. Sen skulle det ju vara jättebra om det fanns något som löste både och, men ta hand om det stora problemen först och sedan kan man börja fokusera på de mindre känner jag.
Nehe, nej ja okej, jo. Att "kvinnolöner" var något som existerade för 40 år sedan är ju rimligtvis inget som bör påverka hur vi stiftar lagar idag. Om vi tittar på skillnaden på löner, rensat för sektor, utbildning, sjukskrivning o.s.v, det som brukar kallas "samma lön för samma jobb".
Då skiljer det runt 3%.
Att en familj skulle göra den bedömningen att den ena partnern ska stanna hemma p.g.a. den skillnaden är 0.
If whether or not sweden should take fewer refugees is a tricky question you really should check your moral compass. Refugees flee to come here, to survive and to get a life worth living. Their right to live is just as important as my right to live.
It saddens me that people think I deserve to be here but people who has fled here on foot through Europe don't.
If we can't share our wealth with those in need then there's no hope for this world.
Edit: spelling
Whether or not we should take fewer refugees is a tricky question even if your moral compass is all right. If you don't want to accept any refugees, your moral compass is fucked up, but there's absolutely room for discussing where you draw the line.
Sweden should stop taking in refugees.
It should send them to diffrent EU countries because we have to many that can't integrate and are jobless, homeless etc.
The last question is a though one. I am not sure what I truly think about it either. But don’t forget all the family’s in Sweden where the mum would benefit A LOT on having the government on her side if she wants to work, but her husband/family/social norms won’t let her. Sometimes a little push in the right direction makes things happen faster on equality matters :) But yeah, it’s the issue with the government intervening in family issues that is a heavy argument against it.
Those were my thoughts exactly! It’s an interesting issue.
You can se it as the 90+90 days that are secluded to each parent are a bonus to the days that are free to use as you wich.
Really good video but i am bluffed how bad those swedes were when it came to politics 🤔
The Swedish guy is on point with all of his replies.
I loved the girl rejecting the reintroduction of the wealth tax
I have alredy done a "valkompass"
The mortgage(amortization) demand in sweden is 2% if u have more than 75% of the house value in loan. and from 75% and lower its 1%.
Immigrants can come to Sweden in MODERATION....If they get a job, if they learn the language, if they respect our laws and our way of life. They can't do that? Get out!
And if you refuse to leave, then we will take a kidney as payment and then deport you.
You don’t sound like a Swede.
Love from Indonesia, I love all your video content make me understand more about Sweden, cos I have Swede BF & he live in Stockholm, we discussed a lot of things thanks to U.
27:10 är inte sverigedemokraterna mest konservativa?
Jo
Think about the latency between the actual immigration and the time it has an effect. It takes, in average, 12 years for a Somali immigrant to be able to support himself (one person).