Analog gauges are better. You don't have to read them. You just have look at their position. All you have to do is see the needle position on the dial, and you've got the information. Ever wonder why airplanes still have so many analog dials? And big rig trucks? That's why
@@logangodofcandybought both, best decision I made in years switching between them always gives that "new bike" feeling, because they are so different
Scrambler 900: 19 inch front wheel, 17 centimeters shocks, 6 speed gearbox, no hot exhaust, tubeless spoked tires, small dual clocks and lighter; thank you
Speed twin 1200 is already a good looker with twin clocks and gas tank shape. Any change in these will spoil the looks in my opinion. Rear shock upgrade is just enough.
I prefer the traditional head light on the current 900 and the overall classic looks, to me it is a stripped down Bonneville and that’s why I bought one. Better rear shocks and forks are good but I prefer the traditional look for this bike.
I've always liked the Speed Twin (Street Twin) 900 because it is a simple machine. I don't think it needs to attempt to keep up with the latest technology. It is a simple riding machine. That's all it needs to be.
Wish manufacturers would extend the back of front mudgaurd. They might think a short mudgaurd looks 'cool', but all the crap from the wheel covers the front of the bike.
MotoBob ALWAYS delivering the good news ! 👌😎 Never understood why they didn't give the Speed Twin 900 a 17" front wheel when they have the T100 & T120 to satisfy the old farts and hipsters going for the nostalgic look.🤷♂🤦♂ There's going to be A LOT of good bikes with DEAD fancy and super expensive instruments in the not so far future. I rode a 1983 GS1100G with anolog Tach and Speedo, that bike it's 41 years old. Think about it . . . Do you really think these electronic instruments with the fancy color screens are going to last that long too ? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.
Great video! I always wished Triumph would make a Speed Twin 1200 with up-spec suspension. The Thruxton is too uncomfortable for me. I agree 100% with Motobob. A Speed Twin 1200 RS would be awesome.
I have a 2018 Street twin that is tweaked to my satisfaction.3 pot Nissin caliper,straight fit from a CB1000,Linear fork springs.14mm master cylinder up from 11mm great breaking.Drilled out the baffles from the OE exhausts,simple job,deeper rich sound especially under acceleration. Kept rear shocks,no point throwing money on others our roads make it impossible to find a good solution.Still running with cat,suits my requirements.Free spirits air filter to fit,not for any real gain but look good.18 tooth front sprocket.The bike still looks modern classic which is how i like it.Upside down forks and piggy back shocks will ruin the looks in my opinion.
Beside the rear shocks upgrade I hope they make the 1200 a little bigger in overall size so that it fits also for riders above 1.80. E.g. a bigger fuel tank, lifting up the whole front with the dash to give more of a super bike feeling. And last but not least the twin semi analog clocks must stay.
They haven't changed their Bonneville frame / engine formula since they discontinued the Bonneville America model. Doubtful they would make any changes to the 1200 frame for the Speed Twin or the T120. one can dream tho! just my 0.02
It took me a year to make changes to the front and rear suspension, get the right sound and performance out of the intake, engine and exhaust, by deleting the airbox and installing a high flow filter, professionally tuning the engine, deleting the cat, finding the perfect headers and end cans to really make this 270⁰ twin both sing freely and stir the soul of the enthusiast.... verex of Tasmania, Australia headers straight through to British Customs Predator pro end cans achieved this outcome... and gave 18% more torque and about 12% more HP throughout the entire rev range up to redline. If Triumph could achieve this, or at least some of these gains out of the box, I think it could only broaden the attachment to a lustworthy ride.
Triumph have to keep the clocks. I would rather buy the 2024 version and upgrade the rear suspension myself than stare at a god awful digital gauge. Some updated paint colours would be nice too. 2024 Black and that dull matt grey are pretty boring. How about an alpine white, or British racing green or bring back that vibrant orange.
As a very happy and proud owner of a first generation Street Twin 900 I hope what I see is just an RS version of the 900 which may replace the Street Cup. PLS Don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm against improvements like upside forks or a digital gauge etc, but I love the street/speed Twin 900 as it is just because it doesn't have such fancy tech and yet it's still modern but looks Retro in a perfect blend. If I wanted upside down forks and digital dash I would probably got a Ducati scrambler but I didn't. I admit tough that the front headlight looks better and an aluminum rear swing arm could also help to shave some kg away from the motorcycle making it a bit lighter which it will always a welcome improvement, but I hope its just an RS version and that's it which I'm sure it will be a nice addition to the 900 series for those who feel that a 1200cc would be just too much.
Maybe we don't get a Thruxton 900 I was wishing a few years ago, but it could get really close to that. I just hope that the 900 gets a 6-speed gearbox.
Wish someone besides (MV Augusta) would a retro styled bike with actual HP. I bought an R9T a few years ago over a Thruxton partly because of the power. But now that one of my bikes has 200hp the R9T feels slow. Why not something like a speed twin or xsr 900 with 150hp?
Honestly throwing the cheap shitty trident dash on the speed twins is a massive downgrade, the analog dial is one of the major leg ups it has over the Moto Guzzi V7 Stone, throwing that away is just a dumb move. The only technology a bike like the 900 should have is the legally required ABS, the appeal of a bike like this to a lot of people is to get away from all the unnecessary nonsense you get on most modern bikes now. I hope they're just throwing this dash and headlight on for testing purposes like on that test bike for a potential Daytona 765, it'd be out of character for Triumph to drop the ball on details like this that they normally always nail on their retro's.
The removal of the twin pod instrument is a downgrade IMO. Looks like it would be similar to the Speed 400's instrument cluster and it doesn't look good with the overall theme.
Every company needs an RS version of the base bike. That would save some real money in the farkel department. Clocks? I look at large screens all day. Not impressed with most digital screens on motorcycles. Twin clocks are just elegant. Provide a tuning app for my phone and I will be fine. I tweak my bike settings every few years, otherwise I just ride.
I prefer the look of the 2024 Speed Twin 1200 , leave the tank and clocks alone , I'll buy my own Ohlins shocks. I don't care for this new tank , it's too square looking and ugly. I won't buy it with just one clock either , it just looks wrong and lopsided. I couldn't care less about a quickshifter.
One large clock will spoil the aesthetics of the 1200, it needs/has to have twin clocks. An LED in the middle, like on the Z900RS, would also work well on the bike.
It might just be Triumph is using that cluster on their test bike to get all the information needed. The double clock actually has to little information if putting say a six axis IMU on the bike and making a RS version. It would be sweet though if they preserv the current day 1200 as well.
As somebody who’s hovering over the “buy button” on the Street/Speed Twin 900, I hope this is a just a flashy variant. The whole appeal of the 900 to me is its simplicity of its lines and its relaxed atitude, whereas this looks a bit shouty. I’m not keen on the T100 because it’s trying to look like an old bike, whereas the 900 is an unashamedly modern bike with a classic silhouette. If I wanted sportier, I’d just go for the 1200, or one of the millions of other sporty bikes on the market. I don’t even like Triumph as a brand, I just think the current 900 is exactly what I’m looking for in a bike (apart from all the gammony Union Jack logos).
agree but need a clock on single gauge; the seat need help for 2 up riding; why honda has great; boucy seats where your not needing an ass massage every 30 minutes. ! ST is so ez in big city traffic. light, low, short. so Assume its not meant for 2 up riding; but....
I have the 22 speed twin with the glorious red. I almost sweated a bit seeing theres an upgrade so soon, but then realizing the new one doesnt have the round tank and the beautiful analog dash made me realize i have the best version of the bike.
@@matthewhaag2138 could be an RS if it had a decent; comfy pannier seat ! i'd like the 1200 to be an 1" higehr for those over 6'. Leg room is not there.
Yes indeed a Speed Twin RS there should be but I think it shouldn't have that single clock but twin clocks + let's hope it gets some tech like imu & possibly a blipper even if they are an option & some decent colour schemes please triumph as the are as dull as he'll!!😬 Nice little spy video MotoBob!!👌🏻👍🏻
the single hybrid clock looks like a step down on the 1200. If RE can do analog clocks with tech, then Triumph should also be able to. I bought my Thruxton R years ago because it encapsulated the retro aesthetic so well, and a lot of that had to do with the dual clocks. I also had the first R9T model and when the updated model came out with the classic dual clocks I immediately upgraded to that. The clocks are such an integral part of the retro styling, that going for a single hybrid clock seems like a step a little too far towards modernity. I felt the same way about the new Scrambler 1200 X, everything was fine except for the clocks. It would have been a great change if they'd just put the clocks from the t120 or the Thruxton onto it. Obviously, I'm not buying any of them and I'm just voicing my opinion on these, but it feels as though Triumph is beginning to move in a weird direction with their bikes. the Daytona 660, the Scrambler 1200 x, these prototype speed twins. They just don't have the same presence and vibe as their predecessors do. Yes, they've added a lot of new goodies, but the feeling isn't there. I guess it's to make them more accessible and reach a broader demographic at the expense of a little bit of character.
At 7min there are speed twin 1200 new shots when still talking about the 900. It’s a no to digital clocks on a retro from me. Reshaped tank might give steering lock better than an oil tanker as per current model.
It just seem incongruous to me---- that Triumph make their engine styling a doppleganger replica of the Triumph unit engine that dates back to 1959 (right down to the fake Amal carbs!)---- but the REST of the bike, they keep moving further and further away from classic Triumph styling. I mean the black cases, the shape of the fuel tanks, the paint schemes and colors, the tank insignia, the tire sizes, the upside down forks, the alloy rims , upswept pipes, the signal lights and headlight, instrument cluster, the front fender, etc, ET CETERA !
Triumph. - Please keep the twin clocks and add a nicer looking twin exhaust like the British customs or Vance & Hines versions! Maybe a totally blacked out version too but beggars can’t be choosers!
The speed twins are definitely a keeper bike so classic bonus to have sorted suspension faultless… despite just having my new arrival 2024 S1000XR love it too !! Love your channel 😎
Was not impressed with my street twin. Electrical and gearbox issues. Mine was one of the first bikes to be made in Thailand. Hopefully they have improved.
There are always many comments about wanting twin clocks, why don't manufacturers take note? Can see that techy TFTs suit tourers and large ADVs, but not for this category.
If the ST1200 got the dash from from the scrambler 1200 XE & Rocket i would be OK with that. Proper TFT. If it gets the 660 Trident/Tiger/Daytona dash that would be so disappointing - giving up twin clocks for a budget dash is just cheap. At least if full TFT that is something premium…..
sad if it goes to single gauge vs twin gauges. makes it too modern if it goes single. I personally made mine already into a Speed Twin 1200 R or RS however you want to brand it.
I was hoping for this news but got impatient and ended up with a sweet deal on a Thruxton RS. The only thing that would make me jealous of the ST1200 would be cruise control and a quick shifter at this point.
I hope they are not planning to put nissin instead of brembo, I wanted the stealth paint job which was not available as I went for booking so I am waiting, I hope they maintain the classic look and iconic style.
Great updates to both bikes. Hope the 900 also gets a bigger fuel tank. Owned a Street Cup a couple years ago and while it was frugal, I regularly wished for more fuel range.
![Triumph SPEED 400 vs 900 vs 1200 [QuickTest#36]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QZQmoGnAriI/mqdefault.jpg)
On the 1200 the ohlin shocks yes, but definitely keep the twin clocks, love that classic look
Agreed. Otherwise I'd rather get a current model and with the money saved upgrade the suspensions
NEEDS the Analogue Clocks... Tech dash isn't a retro look I'd go for personally
Analog gauges are better. You don't have to read them. You just have look at their position. All you have to do is see the needle position on the dial, and you've got the information. Ever wonder why airplanes still have so many analog dials? And big rig trucks? That's why
Indeed...if i wanted a tech dash I would go for another naked bike with a more modern aspect
Definitely does!
100 % agree
100% agree. I own a 2019 street twin but always preferred the T100 clocks
I have just bought the 2024 Speed Twin 1200, and all I can say is you won't be disappointed...it oozes style, power & handling.✌️
I have a 2023. Love it!! That engine is beautiful.
I have a 2022 Speed Twin. I added Ohlins rear shocks and had the swing arms and yokes painted black.
@@liveinwonder7221how much is the consumption?
Thruxton and Speed Twin have fused. Makes sense. People want the ergos from Twin and performance of Thruxton. Solid business move.
Exactly why I didn't buy either, and I really want a second triumph 1200
@@logangodofcandybought both, best decision I made in years
switching between them always gives that "new bike" feeling, because they are so different
No i want thruxton be back
I have the 1200xc. I just want a lower, faster bike with the same suspension for the road.
140hp & 160Nm from the 1200 and I’ll buy one (again)🤞
Was thinking about yr speed 1200 when I watched this video RM. The ohlins and all
Lol thought you’d be watching this RM!
Always! lol. Haven’t had a new bike in a week
No 240 hp 300nm
A larger fuel tank should be a priority. Also, twin clocks is a must!
Scrambler 900: 19 inch front wheel, 17 centimeters shocks, 6 speed gearbox, no hot exhaust, tubeless spoked tires, small dual clocks and lighter; thank you
Speed twin 1200 is already a good looker with twin clocks and gas tank shape. Any change in these will spoil the looks in my opinion.
Rear shock upgrade is just enough.
Oh my god, that cluster and tank 😢
I prefer the traditional head light on the current 900 and the overall classic looks, to me it is a stripped down Bonneville and that’s why I bought one. Better rear shocks and forks are good but I prefer the traditional look for this bike.
Im with everybody else. Use the old clocks, and I am sold!
Glad I've just got a new speed twin 1200 with twin clocks, should hold its value better now 😂
I've always liked the Speed Twin (Street Twin) 900 because it is a simple machine. I don't think it needs to attempt to keep up with the latest technology. It is a simple riding machine. That's all it needs to be.
Loosing the clocks? Loosing me as a potential buyer
Wish manufacturers would extend the back of front mudgaurd. They might think a short mudgaurd looks 'cool', but all the crap from the wheel covers the front of the bike.
i have a 2021 Gen2 Speed Twin 1200, the suspension upgrade would be good but i'd want the twin clocks and not that modern tat for a dash
Would be good to see the 1200 with a shaft drive.
Speed Twin 900 needed that upside down upgrade especially post the Speed 400 launch.
Love my 2020 Speed Twin 1200. Nothing here to make me change.😊
MotoBob ALWAYS delivering the good news ! 👌😎
Never understood why they didn't give the Speed Twin 900 a 17" front wheel when they have the T100 & T120 to satisfy the old farts and hipsters going for the nostalgic look.🤷♂🤦♂
There's going to be A LOT of good bikes with DEAD fancy and super expensive instruments in the not so far future.
I rode a 1983 GS1100G with anolog Tach and Speedo, that bike it's 41 years old.
Think about it . . . Do you really think these electronic instruments with the fancy color screens are going to last that long too ?
I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.
Hoping for a new Scrambler 900 with tubeless spoked rims.
Do that and I'm buying.
Great video! I always wished Triumph would make a Speed Twin 1200 with up-spec suspension. The Thruxton is too uncomfortable for me. I agree 100% with Motobob. A Speed Twin 1200 RS would be awesome.
That USD fork on the 900 should make it easy to update the internals with fully adjustable ones from K-Tech or a similar aftermarket company.
I have a 2018 Street twin that is tweaked to my satisfaction.3 pot Nissin caliper,straight fit from a CB1000,Linear fork springs.14mm master cylinder up from 11mm great breaking.Drilled out the baffles from the OE exhausts,simple job,deeper rich sound especially under acceleration. Kept rear shocks,no point throwing money on others our roads make it impossible to find a good solution.Still running with cat,suits my requirements.Free spirits air filter to fit,not for any real gain but look good.18 tooth front sprocket.The bike still looks modern classic which is how i like it.Upside down forks and piggy back shocks will ruin the looks in my opinion.
Beside the rear shocks upgrade I hope they make the 1200 a little bigger in overall size so that it fits also for riders above 1.80. E.g. a bigger fuel tank, lifting up the whole front with the dash to give more of a super bike feeling. And last but not least the twin semi analog clocks must stay.
They haven't changed their Bonneville frame / engine formula since they discontinued the Bonneville America model. Doubtful they would make any changes to the 1200 frame for the Speed Twin or the T120. one can dream tho! just my 0.02
Needs a higher seat height on the 1200 pls!
Some more tank colors and graphics would be cool. I like the tanks on the 400's and the Trident.
It took me a year to make changes to the front and rear suspension, get the right sound and performance out of the intake, engine and exhaust, by deleting the airbox and installing a high flow filter, professionally tuning the engine, deleting the cat, finding the perfect headers and end cans to really make this 270⁰ twin both sing freely and stir the soul of the enthusiast.... verex of Tasmania, Australia headers straight through to British Customs Predator pro end cans achieved this outcome... and gave 18% more torque and about 12% more HP throughout the entire rev range up to redline.
If Triumph could achieve this, or at least some of these gains out of the box, I think it could only broaden the attachment to a lustworthy ride.
By deleting the Airbox, wouldn’t it lose the build up of static pressure that the Airbox are tuned for the Throttlebody and cylinder intake?
@@Morados tuned professionally to take the more open airflow into account
Triumph have to keep the clocks. I would rather buy the 2024 version and upgrade the rear suspension myself than stare at a god awful digital gauge. Some updated paint colours would be nice too. 2024 Black and that dull matt grey are pretty boring. How about an alpine white, or British racing green or bring back that vibrant orange.
Hope the new speed twin 900 can be seen on the eicma 2025
As a very happy and proud owner of a first generation Street Twin 900 I hope what I see is just an RS version of the 900 which may replace the Street Cup. PLS Don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm against improvements like upside forks or a digital gauge etc, but I love the street/speed Twin 900 as it is just because it doesn't have such fancy tech and yet it's still modern but looks Retro in a perfect blend. If I wanted upside down forks and digital dash I would probably got a Ducati scrambler but I didn't.
I admit tough that the front headlight looks better and an aluminum rear swing arm could also help to shave some kg away from the motorcycle making it a bit lighter which it will always a welcome improvement, but I hope its just an RS version and that's it which I'm sure it will be a nice addition to the 900 series for those who feel that a 1200cc would be just too much.
If anyone at Triumph is here, stick with the analog clocks.
Agreed
Analogue clocks please, not too enthused about the techy vibes tbh. Exceptional looking bikes though
Figured this mght happen when they dropped the Thruxton!
Maybe we don't get a Thruxton 900 I was wishing a few years ago, but it could get really close to that. I just hope that the 900 gets a 6-speed gearbox.
i would trade my 23 Speed Twin 1200 in a heartbeat for this 2025 version
Wish someone besides (MV Augusta) would a retro styled bike with actual HP. I bought an R9T a few years ago over a Thruxton partly because of the power. But now that one of my bikes has 200hp the R9T feels slow.
Why not something like a speed twin or xsr 900 with 150hp?
See triumph have also just brought out the classic Elvis bike with a whole lot of shakin going on 😂😂😂 ps this is true I think it’s a T120 😊👍😊
The colorful Elvis bike looks better than most of the matte-black monochrome hearses Triumph keeps rolling out
Here headlamps look like speed 400. Also, any updates on new scrambler 900?
The more bikes I ride with Triumph's two-panel TFT, the more I hate it
They stopped making the thruxton RS so they could make way for the ST RS so makes total sense.
A bigger tank and 6th gear plz
Speed R/S would be on my list if it can justify its cost.
One fault in the st900 to not have the clock in each display
I was just asking about this on your other vid. 😎
The front of the tank looks a bit like a Honda CB1000R Naked tank from the last few years
They should give wired spoke wheels on speed 1200.
Honestly throwing the cheap shitty trident dash on the speed twins is a massive downgrade, the analog dial is one of the major leg ups it has over the Moto Guzzi V7 Stone, throwing that away is just a dumb move. The only technology a bike like the 900 should have is the legally required ABS, the appeal of a bike like this to a lot of people is to get away from all the unnecessary nonsense you get on most modern bikes now.
I hope they're just throwing this dash and headlight on for testing purposes like on that test bike for a potential Daytona 765, it'd be out of character for Triumph to drop the ball on details like this that they normally always nail on their retro's.
As always very interesting. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
TRIUMPH should finally rework its "Lowrider" Scrambler 900. So that it becomes a real motorcycle, e.g. like the 400 X or 1200 X.
They finally put the Ohlins on it?
Speed Twin 900 under 200kg wet and over 70hp for me please!!
Just give better springs and we good to go
is thruxton 400 coming or not?
The removal of the twin pod instrument is a downgrade IMO. Looks like it would be similar to the Speed 400's instrument cluster and it doesn't look good with the overall theme.
"Pretty significant upgrade"
Right...
Nice bike!
Every company needs an RS version of the base bike. That would save some real money in the farkel department.
Clocks? I look at large screens all day. Not impressed with most digital screens on motorcycles. Twin clocks are just elegant. Provide a tuning app for my phone and I will be fine. I tweak my bike settings every few years, otherwise I just ride.
If all this is true, this will be my first bike
God I hope they don’t change the clocks, the current ones are fab!
Looks like you talk to them before making a review because the bike comes as you tell
Dear Triumph....please don't F* up the 1200. It just needs a quality set of rear shocks. No ugly new tank and PLEASE no f'ing TFT dash. Cheers.
TRIUMPH-TEAM:
Twin clocks please !!!!!!!!!
Around 12000euro Above A Dead Bike
Needs cruise
I prefer the look of the 2024 Speed Twin 1200 , leave the tank and clocks alone , I'll buy my own Ohlins shocks. I don't care for this new tank , it's too square looking and ugly. I won't buy it with just one clock either , it just looks wrong and lopsided. I couldn't care less about a quickshifter.
I like my 2022 speed twin 900 better, the new bike has lost it's retro look.
Speed twin 1200 Still to small bike
I think I'm the only person here that doesn't want twin clocks 😂 retro bike with modern clocks would be my preference!
Thruxton is the only Bonneville that stirs the soul. All the others are just geezer bikes.
The bike needs to be half a size bigger.
One large clock will spoil the aesthetics of the 1200, it needs/has to have twin clocks. An LED in the middle, like on the Z900RS, would also work well on the bike.
A Speed Twin 1200 without the lovely clocks? Absolutely not!
Completely agree. It would be an idiotic decision not to include the twin gauges.
Would you be in favour of it being optional? Those who want the tech, get it, those who want classic clocks, also get it?
This one stupid step of integration of a single pod digital simply will kill the sales of this wonderful bike.
It might just be Triumph is using that cluster on their test bike to get all the information needed. The double clock actually has to little information if putting say a six axis IMU on the bike and making a RS version. It would be sweet though if they preserv the current day 1200 as well.
I agree , it's got to have the twin clocks.
Twin clocks & another 20 bhp.
That's all it neds , more speed and some Ohlins on the back. The single clock is hideous.
Don't do it Triumph , leave those clocks alone.
Who on earth do Triumph use for thier focus groups...seriously, how could anyone not like the twin analogue gauges?!
Twin clocks should be there, they can put a mini tft in between if they must but the twin clocks should be there
I HATE screens on bikes. TWIN ANALOG DIALS ONLY! (Ok, with a tiny screen in between!) The z900rs does it perfectly.
Also, a single dial looks crap.
As somebody who’s hovering over the “buy button” on the Street/Speed Twin 900, I hope this is a just a flashy variant. The whole appeal of the 900 to me is its simplicity of its lines and its relaxed atitude, whereas this looks a bit shouty. I’m not keen on the T100 because it’s trying to look like an old bike, whereas the 900 is an unashamedly modern bike with a classic silhouette. If I wanted sportier, I’d just go for the 1200, or one of the millions of other sporty bikes on the market. I don’t even like Triumph as a brand, I just think the current 900 is exactly what I’m looking for in a bike (apart from all the gammony Union Jack logos).
Get the current 900, the new one lost its charm.
agree but need a clock on single gauge; the seat need help for 2 up riding; why honda has great; boucy seats where your not needing an ass massage every 30 minutes. ! ST is so ez in big city traffic. light, low, short. so Assume its not meant for 2 up riding; but....
I have the 22 speed twin with the glorious red. I almost sweated a bit seeing theres an upgrade so soon, but then realizing the new one doesnt have the round tank and the beautiful analog dash made me realize i have the best version of the bike.
Eventually gonna do a piggy back shock upgrade as well as the front cartridge and I'll have my dream bike even better 😆
Nike. Just do it
SPEED TWIN 1200 RS Please !!!😭🙏🏻
I hav a 23 ST 1200 & n the process of making my own RS. MY Opinion the name alone Speed Twin 1200 Deserves to hav an RS Behind it.👍👍
@@matthewhaag2138 could be an RS if it had a decent; comfy pannier seat ! i'd like the 1200 to be an 1" higehr for those over 6'. Leg room is not there.
Since I’m 5/5” I feel comfortable on the ST1200 but I can c how a taller person would feel cramped. Stay Safe & have Fun👍👍
I've already made my own Speed Twin 1200 R!! 😊
You took the easy way doing it on a 23. I did mine back in 2019 had to swap out the whole front end.
Yes indeed a Speed Twin RS there should be but I think it shouldn't have that single clock but twin clocks + let's hope it gets some tech like imu & possibly a blipper even if they are an option & some decent colour schemes please triumph as the are as dull as he'll!!😬 Nice little spy video MotoBob!!👌🏻👍🏻
the single hybrid clock looks like a step down on the 1200. If RE can do analog clocks with tech, then Triumph should also be able to. I bought my Thruxton R years ago because it encapsulated the retro aesthetic so well, and a lot of that had to do with the dual clocks. I also had the first R9T model and when the updated model came out with the classic dual clocks I immediately upgraded to that. The clocks are such an integral part of the retro styling, that going for a single hybrid clock seems like a step a little too far towards modernity. I felt the same way about the new Scrambler 1200 X, everything was fine except for the clocks. It would have been a great change if they'd just put the clocks from the t120 or the Thruxton onto it. Obviously, I'm not buying any of them and I'm just voicing my opinion on these, but it feels as though Triumph is beginning to move in a weird direction with their bikes. the Daytona 660, the Scrambler 1200 x, these prototype speed twins. They just don't have the same presence and vibe as their predecessors do. Yes, they've added a lot of new goodies, but the feeling isn't there. I guess it's to make them more accessible and reach a broader demographic at the expense of a little bit of character.
At 7min there are speed twin 1200 new shots when still talking about the 900.
It’s a no to digital clocks on a retro from me.
Reshaped tank might give steering lock better than an oil tanker as per current model.
I didn't like the digital panel, a classic motorcycle should keep the analog panel.
It just seem incongruous to me---- that Triumph make their engine styling a doppleganger replica of the Triumph unit engine that dates back to 1959 (right down to the fake Amal carbs!)---- but the REST of the bike, they keep moving further and further away from classic Triumph styling. I mean the black cases, the shape of the fuel tanks, the paint schemes and colors, the tank insignia, the tire sizes, the upside down forks, the alloy rims , upswept pipes, the signal lights and headlight, instrument cluster, the front fender, etc, ET CETERA !
Triumph. - Please keep the twin clocks and add a nicer looking twin exhaust like the British customs or Vance & Hines versions! Maybe a totally blacked out version too but beggars can’t be choosers!
The speed twins are definitely a keeper bike so classic bonus to have sorted suspension faultless… despite just having my new arrival 2024 S1000XR love it too !! Love your channel 😎
Was not impressed with my street twin.
Electrical and gearbox issues.
Mine was one of the first bikes to be made in Thailand.
Hopefully they have improved.
Looks like its getting that swfull trident clock, would be a major L in my book.
There are always many comments about wanting twin clocks, why don't manufacturers take note? Can see that techy TFTs suit tourers and large ADVs, but not for this category.
Yeah, if they see these comments. Twin clocks please.
They probably want to upsell people to the T-series to get the nicer stuff I bet.
Tech dash should be optional and analogue twin dials should be standard
If the ST1200 got the dash from from the scrambler 1200 XE & Rocket i would be OK with that. Proper TFT. If it gets the 660 Trident/Tiger/Daytona dash that would be so disappointing - giving up twin clocks for a budget dash is just cheap. At least if full TFT that is something premium…..
sad if it goes to single gauge vs twin gauges. makes it too modern if it goes single. I personally made mine already into a Speed Twin 1200 R or RS however you want to brand it.
I was hoping for this news but got impatient and ended up with a sweet deal on a Thruxton RS. The only thing that would make me jealous of the ST1200 would be cruise control and a quick shifter at this point.
Speed twin 900 RS….. Yes please!
I hope they are not planning to put nissin instead of brembo, I wanted the stealth paint job which was not available as I went for booking so I am waiting, I hope they maintain the classic look and iconic style.
Great updates to both bikes. Hope the 900 also gets a bigger fuel tank. Owned a Street Cup a couple years ago and while it was frugal, I regularly wished for more fuel range.
Retro without the analog, yea no thanks.