[Pre-Stream] What's for Tonight, Square Enix Policy Change & More

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  • @VinesauceTheExtraSauce
    @VinesauceTheExtraSauce  26 днів тому +6

    Twitch Chat Replay ► chatreplay.stream/videos/BGXHF8y7IKA

  • @ManiacalForeigner
    @ManiacalForeigner 26 днів тому +50

    Now if only they'd let Japanese streamers play their games without having to take them off the screen whenever a cutscene plays

  • @getdeclue
    @getdeclue 26 днів тому +41

    New Gorillaz album sounds great

  • @bungiechungus8253
    @bungiechungus8253 26 днів тому +14

    Also ff15 some almost 10 mil copies and was considered a "financial failure". The old leadership has put them in this position to begin with

    • @theonewhowrotethis5681
      @theonewhowrotethis5681 26 днів тому +8

      Yeah, SE has insane standards for FF sales expectations. Budget probably was mismanaged too, IIRC.

  • @Zangelin
    @Zangelin 25 днів тому +6

    The problem is that people don't own PS5s. it took like 3 years into its lifespan until anyone could get one and at that point nobody cared anymore.

  • @USMC49er
    @USMC49er 26 днів тому +42

    FFXVI, whose producer is Yoshi P, is also the project lead of FFXIV and the guy who saved that MMO.
    So with the majority of his fanbase playing on PC, why did Square Enix think it was a good idea to make FFXVI a PS5 exclusive? FFXVI should've been multiplatform day one or at least a PC release same day.

    • @fieryrebirth
      @fieryrebirth 26 днів тому +9

      Sony and possibly SE knew for a long time that FF is their golden goose when it came to main number titles, despite the evidence that it is no longer the case anymore. They simply wanted more PS5s off the shelves.
      Well, as someone who has been paying attention to the social economic landscape, it's not realistic for people to think even these games to convince us to dump half a grand for ps5s when many are struggling. Not to mention that Square's unrealistic sales expectations is quite self-destructive.

    • @Skona99
      @Skona99 26 днів тому +3

      one word: MUNEE

    • @FeiTheVillain
      @FeiTheVillain 26 днів тому +2

      It's called an exclusivity deal.

    • @lamb-mz2sd
      @lamb-mz2sd 26 днів тому +1

      Console companies are still in denial.

    • @theonewhowrotethis5681
      @theonewhowrotethis5681 26 днів тому +2

      Exclusivity deals are a pain for publishers, so console manufacturers help by paying them for exclusivity and also sometimes helping them out with stuff like dev work and marketing.
      Doesn't always work well as Street Fighter V was PS4 only for consoles (was also on PC, but Xbox was deliberately ditched) and was viewed as being garbage when compared to other SF games. SFV's sales figures were considered top 10 of all time for Capcom, but that's due to the fact that they count different versions of the same game as separate games (SF2 is different from SSF2, for example) while SFV just sold one version and had their later "versions" be the base version + code voucher with all DLC at the time. You could also claim that exclusivity hurt Soulcalibur a ton as the series never had a single game sell as many copies as Soulcalibur II (4m+) once Soulcalibur III was made as a PS2 exclusive.
      I think Square Enix made the right move with ditching exclusivity, however. Capcom started doing a TON better when they exited their Sony exclusivity deals with their games. Exclusivity only really works well for 1st party titles (hence why Nintendo sells gangbusters for consoles as their games aren't found anywhere else legally).

  • @Kuri_exe
    @Kuri_exe 26 днів тому +6

    I just commented the other day on another extra sauce video that I would like to see Vinny play FFX, hope this news on Square is a step into that. (But I'm not gonna get my hopes up too much)

    • @savannah3752
      @savannah3752 26 днів тому

      I know it's not his favorite but I feel the same

    • @at0micl0bster
      @at0micl0bster 26 днів тому +2

      Didn't he play that before and not like it? Nah, let's see him play dq 5 or 8

    • @Kuri_exe
      @Kuri_exe 25 днів тому

      @@at0micl0bster As far as I know I think he only played it a long time ago (maybe when it came out) and he probably has differents tastes now so maybe he would like it. I would also like to see him play FF Tactics for the gba

  • @Forever_Zero
    @Forever_Zero 26 днів тому +6

    I think this is the best move more Square, more platforms, more players, it's a win-win. And I'd rather have them blaming the exclusivity deals than blaming the developers behind the Remake project.

  • @chemergency
    @chemergency 26 днів тому +26

    The demographic that used to carry Final Fantasy on PlayStation no-longer exists.

    • @vrapbrap
      @vrapbrap 25 днів тому +2

      Nah we just on pc now

    • @Zangelin
      @Zangelin 25 днів тому +6

      @@vrapbrap Exactly? That's what he means.

    • @chemergency
      @chemergency 14 днів тому

      @@Zangelin Indeed that's what I was inferring. FF fans still exist they're just not stupid and don't have the disposable income for a console just for one or two games.

  • @kawaiiarchive357
    @kawaiiarchive357 26 днів тому +8

    There is a secret music video in Nier Automata that disables the recording/share function on PS4. If I find a way to record it I wonder if Square Enix will send an assassin death squad to my house.

    • @theonewhowrotethis5681
      @theonewhowrotethis5681 26 днів тому

      You could do a capture card. If HDCP is an issue and you can't disable it, you COULD get an HDMI splitter that strips it (assuming video still works after, however).

  • @captainpep3
    @captainpep3 26 днів тому +7

    I hope that if there really was a FF9 remake in the works like the rumours suggest, that they didn’t scrap it because of all this

    • @at0micl0bster
      @at0micl0bster 26 днів тому +1

      I hope they did, the ff7 remake is embarrassing

    • @captainpep3
      @captainpep3 26 днів тому +6

      @@at0micl0bster oh c’mon man. Bait used to be believable. But in case you’re not baiting, FF7 remake did great with the character moments above all else, and since FF9 is driven by its characters more than any other FF (in my opinion) I think they could do it justice

    • @theonewhowrotethis5681
      @theonewhowrotethis5681 26 днів тому +1

      ​@@captainpep3Character moments in Remake and Rebirth were good, but the whole timeline/multiverse/Whisper shenanigans did turn off a bunch of people. Some people think that if another game got remade, then the chosen game would have extra unnecessary stuff added to them. For example, say they remade FF9 but then added the twists that Garnet was actually Garland's long lost daughter the whole time and Vivi actually houses the light half of Emperor Mateus' soul after it got defeated in Dawn of Souls as a means of purifying it (or something stupid like that).
      I liked the new FF7 titles, but I can see why people can be wary of the new games as they probably just expected them to be in-depth remakes of the original game with 1:1 story beats. Nobody expected the Whispers back in 2020.

    • @captainpep3
      @captainpep3 26 днів тому

      @@theonewhowrotethis5681 to be fair, I doubt they’d go in that direction with 9 just because of the kind of game 9 is as a whole regardless, even though I don’t love the plot ghost stuff in remake/rebirth, those are only in specific moments in those games (especially at the end) where the main stuff is done mostly really well, with a few gripes I and many others have. Even if they did something weird with 9’s story to “surprise” players, I imagine they’d do the main important stuff well

  • @zanmaru139
    @zanmaru139 26 днів тому +14

    Narrow-sighted? Vinny, exclusivity is never a good thing for the customer. Remember that.

    • @DerWaidmann_
      @DerWaidmann_ 26 днів тому

      It drives competition, which is always good for the consumer

    • @selectionn
      @selectionn 25 днів тому +5

      @@DerWaidmann_ does it though? when has exclusivity benefited us? all it does is prevent everyone from enjoying any game they want.
      last I checked, every time a game went epic exclusive, it ends up failing, even if it was a good game. PS5 exclusives eventually just come to PC now, and xbox fans never get to play them which is a net negative. Xbox exclusives are going to be a thing of the past now, at least, and most of them are trash if im being honest, so competition did nothing there for us getting good games, unless you count starfield lmao. Nintendo's exclusivity does absolutely nothing for anyone, other than lock good games on a console that is weaker than a new iPhone. Its literally considered ethically correct to pirate Nintendo games. How is that beneficial to Nintendo or the consumer.

    • @No1TypeC
      @No1TypeC 25 днів тому +2

      Vinny mad ASL for buyin a PeeS5 fr fr 😂😂😂

  • @TropicalEmperor
    @TropicalEmperor 26 днів тому +25

    2b

    • @agentduck9285
      @agentduck9285 26 днів тому +17

      Or not 2b

    • @First-Name_Last-Name
      @First-Name_Last-Name 26 днів тому +11

      that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
      Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them?

    • @scrittle
      @scrittle 26 днів тому +6

      you sunk my battleship

    • @Catsamex
      @Catsamex 26 днів тому +3

      or not to [B]e

    • @Makocat
      @Makocat 26 днів тому +5

      2B IN BIO

  • @HMR422
    @HMR422 26 днів тому +3

    I see 2B I click

  • @guggenheim914
    @guggenheim914 25 днів тому

    holding out on buying a ps5 is going to finally pay off soon

  • @twincherries6698
    @twincherries6698 25 днів тому +2

    Vinny huffing that copium!

  • @liquiddogman3368
    @liquiddogman3368 26 днів тому +12

    Am I reading him wrong, or did Vinny seem a tiny bit salty over the Square Enix news? I was expecting him to be like, "Yeah, it's great that more people will get to experience these games at the same time," but instead, I hear him say how's it's "narrow sighted" and "annoying" because you buy a PS5 to play them earlier. And "we'll see if its a successful pivot", like of course releasing their games simultaneously will no doubt work for them, right??? PS5 only is not cutting it anymore.

    • @Supermariosupervideo
      @Supermariosupervideo 26 днів тому +32

      Probably mad as hell he bought a PS5 for nothing

    • @MathewWithOne_T
      @MathewWithOne_T 26 днів тому +2

      I think he just has doubts that they'll pivot successfully

    • @Supermariosupervideo
      @Supermariosupervideo 26 днів тому +6

      It’s also another reason why Sony’s gonna crash hard. They can only remaster The Last of Us so much until they gotta make a new game

    • @dysr
      @dysr 26 днів тому

      @@Supermariosupervideo Wasn’t he given one for free for 16?

    • @bruhtholemew
      @bruhtholemew 26 днів тому +8

      I'd be mad too if the only reason for me to own a PS5 was removed.
      I play on PC and know their exclusives are no longer a thing, so I can wait a year, but some people don't want to risk seeing spoilers that long.

  • @MacUser2-il2cx
    @MacUser2-il2cx 26 днів тому +14

    Final Fantasy 1 to Final Fantasy 10 is the real Final Fantasy to me.

    • @asdadsgsaadasf6043
      @asdadsgsaadasf6043 26 днів тому +3

      Yeah, hasn't been a great one since 10. 12 was okay, but it didn't leave a huge impression on me. 13-16 have been a dumpster fire, and it's clearly just a revolving door of people in management who don't understand why the franchise was ever popular. It's crazy that the same company made Dragon Quest 11, but makes a confusing mess out of their flagship IP. Even the 7 remake games don't appeal to me at all, they feel totally off and I hate a lot of the decisions they made with them, not even getting into the story. I don't know what they think their strategy is, but the most they've managed to do is alienate a lot of old fans, and make mediocre, divisive games.

    • @at0micl0bster
      @at0micl0bster 26 днів тому

      ff11 has some of the best stories in the franchise and it's only competition is ff14... and many will never find out cause EW mmo or EW old mmo (11 is pretty jank tho)

    • @theonewhowrotethis5681
      @theonewhowrotethis5681 26 днів тому +2

      ​@@at0micl0bsterI imagine they're great games, but I don't do subscriptions. I'd rather pay once and be done for games (besides an occasional DLC). I'll definitely play the snot out of offline versions of both (and DQ 10) if they're ever made for US audiences, however.

    • @Malfin_L
      @Malfin_L 26 днів тому +2

      ugh another one of those fans huh
      also including FF2 as a "real final fantasy" is funny to me considering the abomination that is the level up system of FF2 was never ever brought back in any of the FF game
      FF3 job system was also kinda sucks but thankfully FF5 improved it by a lot

    • @Malfin_L
      @Malfin_L 26 днів тому +1

      @@asdadsgsaadasf6043 "13-16 have been a dumpster fire"
      tfw 14 is in top 10 most played MMORPG on steamdb and competes with WoW as some of the most popular MMO

  • @bungiechungus8253
    @bungiechungus8253 26 днів тому +8

    "narrow sighted" said the guy who bought a console to play 3 games, despite saying that "games take an entire console generation to make". Making games available to a whole market is the smartest thing they could do

    • @TallTapper
      @TallTapper 26 днів тому +1

      i like the nissan 350z

    • @IdiotRace
      @IdiotRace 16 днів тому

      @@TallTapper I have no strong feelings one way or the other about the 350z. I mean it's a good platform but I don't think I'd buy one or a 370z just doesn't really do it for me.

  • @raiden_is_dj
    @raiden_is_dj 26 днів тому +5

    First

    • @meatmobile
      @meatmobile 26 днів тому +7

      cringe

    • @TropicalEmperor
      @TropicalEmperor 26 днів тому +3

      @@meatmobile ikr, nobody cares if you’re first

    • @scrittle
      @scrittle 26 днів тому +7

      Well I do and you're both being losers about it

    • @raiden_is_dj
      @raiden_is_dj 26 днів тому +1

      @@TropicalEmperor you know that you win 5 booty dollars when you get first to a vinny video, right?
      Legal tender in any participating booty store

    • @greatsaiyaguy8868
      @greatsaiyaguy8868 25 днів тому +2

      Hell yeah brother