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  • @CodeParade
    @CodeParade 5 місяців тому +1262

    Thanks for playing Vinny, glad I could stimulate the noggin!
    Just FYI, the challenge levels are optional and more focused on golfing skill (you can skip these), the normal levels are 4D focused and an easier progression.

    • @windedStar
      @windedStar 5 місяців тому +97

      Dev in chat :o

    • @skeleton8817
      @skeleton8817 5 місяців тому +25

      Hi CodeParade :O

    • @-snek.
      @-snek. 5 місяців тому +99

      I'm sure many people have said this but the view that 'upgrades' the '2D' plane of the golf course into a fully navigable 3D space is one of the coolest ways I've ever seen the concept of the fourth dimension conveyed. Explaining it with words, they melt together into a jumbled mess of information, but minigolf is as clear as crystal.

    • @Gonzas97
      @Gonzas97 5 місяців тому +21

      You guys created a very interesting game experience, experimental

    • @Lucy-dg9en
      @Lucy-dg9en 5 місяців тому +17

      Oh. Of course YOU made this

  • @WolfmanDude
    @WolfmanDude 5 місяців тому +156

    The intro actually explains the concept pretty good, I mostly understood the idea! Your surroundings dont really change, you are just moving your viewpoint in 4D space and the result is converted into 3D.

    • @TheNightkunai
      @TheNightkunai 5 місяців тому +30

      Minigolf is also mostly a game played on a 2d plane - you could play it top down with altitude indications. So it helps that you're mostly just playing golf in a 3d space with the exception of minimal changes in the 4th dimension (like the hole changing your angle when bouncing in it.

    • @dan_loeb
      @dan_loeb 5 місяців тому +24

      exactly. the volume view really helps cement it. you're seeing the intersection of those spaces layered together and q and e slide where the spaces intersect.

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 5 місяців тому

      I think 4D is better explained when you flat out just use what the 4th dimension is: Time.
      You're literally sliding up and down(cause-ward and effect-wise?) a physical Time-line.
      Think of the radically shifting environment as a time-lapse video you can scroll through and then explore each frame in full 3D.

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +33

      @@RipOffProductionsLLCThis game is about spatial dimensions

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 5 місяців тому

      @Wulfstrex but, that's still time though, Time is literally a line made out of 3D "points".

  • @Ivanhoenn
    @Ivanhoenn 5 місяців тому +146

    When a fractal tells you about miniature golf, it's talking about the even smaller golf game taking place in the dimple of your golf ball. Ad infinitum.

  • @Yourname942
    @Yourname942 5 місяців тому +7

    volume view just makes so much sense.

  • @hunkydoodle2374
    @hunkydoodle2374 5 місяців тому +7

    I really hope vinny continues with this game, I'd love to see how much his brain breaks when he gets to the twist in the last course.

  • @gl0wTech
    @gl0wTech 5 місяців тому +7

    this video made me look more into 4th dimensional theory and now im having a breakdown about how we exist outside and inside of something we will never comprehend. WE'RE BARELY SCRIBBLES ON PAPER. why is nobody freaking out about this

    • @NovaAeternus
      @NovaAeternus 5 місяців тому +6

      why should I care about something I don't see

    • @DiscoMouse
      @DiscoMouse 5 місяців тому +8

      In standard physics there is no 4th (spatial) dimension, so nothing to freak out about yet.

    • @marcusdaloia2974
      @marcusdaloia2974 5 місяців тому +3

      Because we do comprehend it. Skill issue.

  • @julianemery718
    @julianemery718 4 місяці тому +1

    A way i found to help with figuring out the 4D stuff was i went into golfibg mode, zoomed all the way out and looked as far down as i could.
    I then wiggled the 4D course around and it looks like a 3D shape where yoou can see its corners and bends easily.
    Sure there's "volume view" but i found this a lot easier.

  • @JoshuaSimonson909
    @JoshuaSimonson909 5 місяців тому +26

    The words "4D Golf" gave me psychic damage

    • @Hithere-uz6wd
      @Hithere-uz6wd 5 місяців тому

      Crazy cuz you would be the only person in existence to have experienced psychic damage

  • @sadboiinasweater6104
    @sadboiinasweater6104 5 місяців тому +2

    i found it meat that the game provides a simplistic introduction to how the fourth dimension works :)

  • @FinnyT711
    @FinnyT711 5 місяців тому +2

    When is 4D Golf with Multiverse Time Travel

    • @flabort
      @flabort 4 місяці тому

      It's the 7th environment.

  • @OwlTowel
    @OwlTowel 5 місяців тому +11

    Okay, how the hell do you manage to programme something like this? This is borderline magic.

    • @Biscotum
      @Biscotum 5 місяців тому +18

      Ultimately it's just kind of... math. An object is just a bunch of vectors, and adding more directions (or dimensions) is just adding a fourth variable to those vectors. 3D graphics already take 3D objects and convert them to a 2D image on a screen, so this is taking a 4D landscape, rendering it down to a 3D viewpoint and converting it to s 2D image.

    • @gameguru8
      @gameguru8 5 місяців тому +11

      I look at it like this. First of all, how did people program 3D visuals? The field of mathematics is old and developed enough that once computers got enough processing power, we just plugged in a bunch of math equations that humans had already spent centuries figuring out. And in the course of figuring out the math to represent shapes in 2 dimensions or 3 dimensions, people tried to see what would happen if you just plugged in a 4 or more into those equations. The part where things don't make sense to us is literally the fact that we do not have the means to represent things visually in more than 3 dimensions. More than 3 spatial dimensions is not something we've observed in nature anywhere, so we will actually never have the capacity to "understand" more than 3 dimensions. What we can do, however, is take a piece of 4 dimensional data and represent a 'slice' of it in 3 dimensions thanks to maths.
      This is the entire crux of those first few opening explanations: we are three dimensional beings, so we have no trouble observing and understanding things in 2 or 3 dimensions, to the point that we can even observe and comprehend in real time when 3D shapes convert to 2D shapes even as you shift the the 2D plane into the 3rd dimension. If you can sort of understand how one might theoretically use math equations look at a 3D shape and end up being able to spit out the corresponding 2D shapes, doing a 4D game is the simple matter of applying whatever math equations give us 4D shapes and doing the same process of conversion to 3D shapes. The biggest stumbling block, probably, is to be able to accept that at no point in this video, or in anything ever, do we ever see 4D shapes. The best we can possibly ever do is look at a 3D 'slice' of a 4D shape.
      PS please forgive me mathematicians, this is a very layman's understanding of these ideas.

    • @proot.
      @proot. 5 місяців тому +1

      The developer, codeparade, has a youtube channel where he released some devlogs showing the process and some of the math

  • @förtñitę0666
    @förtñitę0666 5 місяців тому +31

    vinny

  • @ChezzyKnytt
    @ChezzyKnytt 5 місяців тому +1

    I appreciate that you play weird and different games Vinny! It's nice finding out about gems like this.
    (still keen for Felvidek part 2)

  • @DrJIMMI
    @DrJIMMI 5 місяців тому +1

    This brings me back to the interesting world of 4D math i had to use at work years ago. What an interesting time that was!

  • @mantacid1221
    @mantacid1221 3 місяці тому +2

    After seeing vinny struggle with the second tutorial hole, I’m now wondering if anyone else could see that it was just a 4D “L” shape.

  • @StarHeaven07
    @StarHeaven07 5 місяців тому +4

    "Dating is simple!"
    Dating:

  • @KevysNotHeavy
    @KevysNotHeavy 4 місяці тому +1

    I wonder if he would have done any better if he had a better concept of the fact that 4d slices all need to be lain on top of each other in 3d

  • @sonofwolfgaming
    @sonofwolfgaming 4 місяці тому +1

    Now we just need 4d golf with your friends

  • @ZVAARI
    @ZVAARI 4 місяці тому +3

    do you think there's a 4D Vinny somewhere streaming 5D Golf

  • @Poly_0000
    @Poly_0000 5 місяців тому +2

    been looking forward to him playing this

  • @syanide9800
    @syanide9800 4 місяці тому +1

    can't believe we got 4D golf before Miegakure

  • @TechnicolorMammoth
    @TechnicolorMammoth 5 місяців тому +1

    Vinny going through the 5 stages of grief trying to come to terms with the reality that is 4D.

  • @andrewhoover2735
    @andrewhoover2735 22 дні тому +1

    "Where hole in 4th dimension" lol

  • @marcusdaloia2974
    @marcusdaloia2974 5 місяців тому +1

    Ah yes the Evergreens Challenge Hole Nine; the person-breaking hardship of a _slightly steep hill._
    Edit: _Oh fuck me_ he goes from there _immediately_ into a new course _filled with a whole bunch of slightly steep hills!_

  • @sanachanto
    @sanachanto 5 місяців тому +1

    I can’t wait to see speedruns of this

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +1

      You can already find 4D Golf speedruns

  • @kokea4349
    @kokea4349 5 місяців тому

    Ohh, it's really sweet seeing Vinny playing CodeParade's game, love his vids

  • @garjian0
    @garjian0 5 місяців тому +1

    This seems to be much simpler than it... seems.
    So far, this version of minigolf has no verticality, so you're effectively playing zero gravity 3D minigolf, but when you're in the normal view, you can only view the X and Z axis, with an additional superficial axis of completely useless information layered on top. In these early levels at least, it's clear that playing on volume view gives you all the missing information, i.e. access to the true Y axis.
    Imagine what this would be like if you were controlling the ball, like Monkey Ball. In volume view, it's a very simply flight sim. In the normal view, it would be akin to playing a flight sim with your view being a 1 pixel slither, with tank controls to rotate up and down. Fill that screen with a fake 4th dimenstion that creates the illusion that the slither is a "floor" in this zero gravity space and suddenly you've no idea what's going on.
    The only place gravity/superficial Y axis seems to exist is the hole itself, which acts as a black hole once in its boundary. You do see the ball come off the ground, but it doesn't seem like you can get out of bounds, though I suppose that makes sense as you are enclosed in essentially a 3D tunnel. I do wonder if this superficial Y axis on this which gravity exists has an equality superficial effect on the ball's path in the volume view though. It doesn't seem to...
    But yeah, until I see a level where you have to make a jump, it's not really 4D yet.
    Edit: There are hills though... I suppose that would act almost like pockets of wind within the 3D space.
    Ah, there we go, now it's 4D.

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +1

      It gets a lot more interesting with every continued set of 9-holes in the next themed courses.

    • @garjian0
      @garjian0 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Wulfstrex I saw that. :)
      Nonetheless, I think it's far, far easier to understand in volume view.
      I also think it's demonstrative of a good tutorial that I was able to grasp so much from such a short second hand experience. It's a shame so many have trouble seeing it.

  • @JeskidoYT
    @JeskidoYT 5 місяців тому +1

    whoa man so many spaces

  • @AyyyGabagool
    @AyyyGabagool 5 місяців тому +2

    great.

  • @3xirei
    @3xirei 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey Vinny i just want u to know that ur content is the best

  • @HangLooseMongooseYT
    @HangLooseMongooseYT 5 місяців тому +1

    Really wish he would could have made it to the last level since…
    Spoiler…
    It becomes 5D golf

  • @AlbySilly
    @AlbySilly 4 місяці тому

    To my eyes, this is 3d golf projected as 2d

    • @AlbySilly
      @AlbySilly 4 місяці тому +1

      After watching it for a while, it's 4d golf, the 3d view is easiest to comprehend, but the vertical of the 2d section is the 4th dimension in the 3d view

  • @nintendianajones64
    @nintendianajones64 5 місяців тому +2

    Now do Mario 64 4D

  • @Slobbercat
    @Slobbercat 4 місяці тому +1

    Volumetric View explanation:
    Think of it like this. Us humans, when we walk on the floor we are moving on a 2D plane. You never go up into the air or down into the earth, right? You are always going straight.
    In 4D, we give you that ability to walk up or down. Say you want to go up, think of it as walking up a curved slope until you are standing on a 90° wall. Now take away the slope and the wall, and do the same thing in the air, and you have the new axis that you can walk on! Full 360° movement.

  • @eneshiro7727
    @eneshiro7727 5 місяців тому

    Brain hurt in videogame form

  • @MultiDarkZen
    @MultiDarkZen 4 місяці тому +1

    I cant tell if vinny is joking or he forgot he wasnt live

  • @neilgoldberg547
    @neilgoldberg547 5 місяців тому

    *Points finger* Evil from the eight dimension!!!

  • @StarHeaven07
    @StarHeaven07 5 місяців тому

    This game and the 4D Minecraft clone are proof that we've began making shit so otherworldly that most people can't comprehend it, like batteries or the cotton gin.

  • @rivershadix2781
    @rivershadix2781 5 місяців тому +1762

    "Chat is this real?" 4D broke his brain so much he started hallucinating that he was live

    • @snek7915
      @snek7915 5 місяців тому +236

      Simply rotate kata-wise to see the chat

    • @ninjack11
      @ninjack11 5 місяців тому +210

      he's talking to the 4D chat who watches this before it was recorded

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 5 місяців тому +24

      @@snek7915 considering the 4th dimension is time(or at least, time is a direction in that dimension), that kinda works.

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +41

      @@RipOffProductionsLLCWe are still only talking about 4 spatial dimensions

    • @lolzforlunch
      @lolzforlunch 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Wulfstrex so how does time work as something we visually comprehend? Its always been fascinating to me, and even moreso when visualized in Arrival.

  • @ColCoal
    @ColCoal 5 місяців тому +1176

    The 4d family staring in absolute disbelief as the 3d nincompoop flails around on the minigolf course for 5 minutes on each hole while they have to wait behind him.

    • @Kwauhn.
      @Kwauhn. 5 місяців тому +1

      Fuckin' tourists... our pristine 4D mini golf courses used to be a nice place to bring your family... until the dirty threedies started showing up...

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 5 місяців тому +10

      I thinkthe easier way to do these sorts of "4D" games, I think the "classic" flatlanders analogy is insufficient abd needlessly complicated.
      We can just use what the 4th dimension actually is, Time, and describe moving through it as freely rewinding or fast-forwarding time that remains paused while you can freely move within it...
      It also means you can call the directions "cause" and "effect".

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +219

      @@RipOffProductionsLLCThis game is about 4 spatial dimensions, not 3+1 spatial+time dimensions

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 5 місяців тому +7

      @Wulfstrex but that's still time though, just with the ability to freely move through it(which I suppose technically makes it like 6 or 7 dimensional?)

    • @JustinKoenigSilica
      @JustinKoenigSilica 5 місяців тому +106

      You literally didnt watch the first 2 minutes of the video, did you? ​@RipOffProductionsLLC

  • @BootlegRoman
    @BootlegRoman 5 місяців тому +668

    This game gives new meaning to "strokes" in golf, feel like I'm having one trying to comprehend this

    • @crystalAegis
      @crystalAegis 5 місяців тому +33

      having actually had one I gotta say, it wasn't that off from it

    • @MaxiemumKarnage
      @MaxiemumKarnage 5 місяців тому +43

      I too stroke it to Vinny

    • @TTIOTT
      @TTIOTT 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@MaxiemumKarnage 😎

    • @HyperDefective
      @HyperDefective 5 місяців тому +2

      +2

  • @koy5902
    @koy5902 5 місяців тому +1418

    "How did a human come up with this?" more like "How did a human DEVELOP this??"

    • @TropicalEmperor
      @TropicalEmperor 5 місяців тому +46

      I guess the person must be from the future.

    • @rujon288
      @rujon288 5 місяців тому +1

      Code parades devlog for this is amazingly detailed check it out

    • @zacharynovak2180
      @zacharynovak2180 5 місяців тому +292

      There’s a whole video series about the development by the person who made this game and I am still confused after watching it
      edit: CodeParade is the dev, they have a youtube channel

    • @TropicalEmperor
      @TropicalEmperor 5 місяців тому +19

      @@zacharynovak2180 oh, cool

    • @hitmemedia
      @hitmemedia 5 місяців тому +11

      Cosmodeus did it a Native Intelligence! Not a human! May be?! Feels free?! Duddeeeee

  • @Hawksomatic
    @Hawksomatic 5 місяців тому +789

    Every game concept has a golf variant

    • @pareidolist
      @pareidolist 5 місяців тому +33

      I can't wait for the character action golf game, featuring DAN TE BEST IN GAEM

    • @Darkfreed0m
      @Darkfreed0m 5 місяців тому +32

      Call of Duty: Gulf Golf

    • @mikoirl
      @mikoirl 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@pareidolist DUN LOP IS BAEST IN CLUBBS. HE SCHWING SO GUD.

    • @painovoimaton
      @painovoimaton 5 місяців тому +14

      stealth golf?
      metal golf solid?

    • @BloodWraith777
      @BloodWraith777 5 місяців тому +7

      Gun Golf. Gotta keep track of not just the bullet drop off, but the wind speed too. And also you gotta hit the ball just right and with a weak enough caliber or it explodes. And also the golf ball has a health bar.
      And Gun Pool for that matter, too.

  • @_kamayana
    @_kamayana 5 місяців тому +316

    The volume view is one of the best ways I've seen to make a 4D game actually playable - it basically swaps out the real world's 3D up/down with the 4D ana/kata, making ana/kata now the observable, tangible dimension and up/down now the intangible extra dimension that's splitting the course apart. A simple hill in normal view becomes an inaccessible green-colored wall in volume view, and that helps you understand how that's the same way the 4th dimension is behaving in normal view.

    • @329link
      @329link 5 місяців тому +39

      Yeah it's pretty clever. Like switching a 2D view from top-down to the side.

    • @Hithere-uz6wd
      @Hithere-uz6wd 5 місяців тому +3

      How did we figure out what the 4th dimension adds? Is it hypothetical only?

    • @ChezzyKnytt
      @ChezzyKnytt 5 місяців тому +19

      Yeah true, golf being mostly a 2D game helps for most of the levels. It basically turns golf from a 2D game to a 3D game. Yeah the hills through a spanner in the works for that analogy.

    • @AROAH
      @AROAH 5 місяців тому +47

      @@Hithere-uz6wdMy understanding is that it’s just a natural continuation of the math that makes 2D and 3D exist. I do not understand the actual math behind those concepts, because math makes me wanna vomit.

    • @olivialee1102
      @olivialee1102 5 місяців тому +30

      @@Hithere-uz6wd It's all mathematics, just like a regular 3d game calculates the X Y Z position of things, this game calculates an extra dimension, creating X Y Z A positions for all points of the objects, making them 4d rather than 3d

  • @AgentRedJackal
    @AgentRedJackal 5 місяців тому +393

    This is like trying to do anything in a dream and the scenery or functionality of what you're using constantly changes

    • @WolfmanDude
      @WolfmanDude 5 місяців тому +21

      The scenery doesnt actually change, your are just moving around on 4D space. Your view position only changes

    • @ohno5507
      @ohno5507 5 місяців тому +8

      @@WolfmanDude Well, yeah, but he's not saying the scenery in the game is changing, but that it has the same feeling of trying to do stuff in dreams.

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 5 місяців тому +8

      ​@@WolfmanDude you're missing some reading comprehension, pal. I'm pretty sure that everyone or at least almost everyone here knows that the scenery is not actually changing

    • @TTIOTT
      @TTIOTT 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@WolfmanDude ☝️🤓

    • @WolfmanDude
      @WolfmanDude 5 місяців тому +2

      @@TTIOTT Um ,ackschually....

  • @SolipSauce
    @SolipSauce 5 місяців тому +401

    Do not travel to the 4th dimension. Not only will you not find hole, you may also lose your balls in the process.

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 5 місяців тому +33

      You can re-find the ball immediately by pressing the right button on keyboard

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +10

      I mean, the crystals in the tutorial should really help you out whenever you want to find the hole.

    • @rorolmoney
      @rorolmoney 5 місяців тому

      And then? 4 dimensional beings will make fun of your small peanits (brain)

    • @nataliexists
      @nataliexists 5 місяців тому +4

      guess i gotta go to the 4th dimension!

    • @DontfeelNienfeeler
      @DontfeelNienfeeler 4 місяці тому +1

      God, the fact the 2nd level is literally just an L shape, and I feel like the only one to have noticed that, also applying to the shape of like any of the levels makes me feel like I'm going insane.

  • @sumbuddy4088
    @sumbuddy4088 5 місяців тому +188

    >spends like 10 whole minutes trying to wrap head around labyrinth
    >hits the hole a little too hard
    >ball bounces through the fourth dimension back to the start

    • @qKitti
      @qKitti 2 місяці тому +5

      i think it actually bounced in the Y axis back to the beginning lmao

  • @lucidlullaby894
    @lucidlullaby894 5 місяців тому +712

    So this is what those little 2d fellas from Flatland felt like existing in 3D

    • @TechnicolorMammoth
      @TechnicolorMammoth 5 місяців тому +57

      I literally was about to write something like this. How Vinny almost instantly hated it reminded me of Flatland! You’re awesome for pointing this out, lucid lullaby!

    • @TurtleSoop
      @TurtleSoop 5 місяців тому +26

      Yeah the moment it started talking about the 2D eye in the 3D eye I was like ooo flatland

    • @RSK412
      @RSK412 5 місяців тому +1

      eh not quite

    • @Hithere-uz6wd
      @Hithere-uz6wd 5 місяців тому +4

      Super paper Mario?

    • @vinesaucefullsauce
      @vinesaucefullsauce  5 місяців тому +176

      @@Hithere-uz6wd No, they are referencing an Episode of Carl Sagan's 'Cosmos: A Personal Voyage' where he beautifully explains what a 4th dimension would be like, and poses the example of what a 2D creature would feel like if it perceieved a 3D world. Always a recommended watch ua-cam.com/video/UnURElCzGc0/v-deo.html

  • @JacobKinsley
    @JacobKinsley 5 місяців тому +282

    This is a pretty accurate representation of how a 4th dimensional being would introduce a 3 dimensional being to the 4th dimension, like 'it's not that hard bro, let's play minigolf'

    • @AMan-xz7tx
      @AMan-xz7tx 4 місяці тому +8

      "bro, just go North-Anth from the windmill, East to the hill, and ramp it North-Kanth-East towards the loop, it's not that hard you just gotta put some juice into it."

    • @ineophobe
      @ineophobe Місяць тому +1

      imagine trying to explain the 3rd dimension to a 2 dimensional being

  • @Tsunderebolt
    @Tsunderebolt 5 місяців тому +186

    this must be how mr. game and watch felt when he debuted in smash

  • @lukeguy97
    @lukeguy97 5 місяців тому +216

    Fractal Funny

  • @randonologic4684
    @randonologic4684 5 місяців тому +223

    This 4D golf, built in a 3D engine, that I'm watching on my 2D screen, is too much for my 1D brain.

  • @harukami912
    @harukami912 5 місяців тому +247

    My brain is empty as usual. Thanks for asking, Vin.

    • @00suesakamoto
      @00suesakamoto 5 місяців тому +3

      Mine is either empty or overwhelmed as always

    • @autizm0x
      @autizm0x 5 місяців тому +3

      i like to use "Brain't" to describe my brain activity.

    • @Knarlyed
      @Knarlyed 5 місяців тому +4

      Profile checks out

  • @GameDevYal
    @GameDevYal 5 місяців тому +70

    I find it funny how 5D Chess With Multiverse Time Travel is actually merely a 4D game, while 4D Golf secretly is a 5D game once you get far enough.

  • @nepdisc3722
    @nepdisc3722 5 місяців тому +116

    seems like he's suffering from the misconception that he's altering the world rather than just his view of it

    • @Ethan13371
      @Ethan13371 4 місяці тому +28

      Happens to the best of 3d beings

    • @daregularperson
      @daregularperson 3 місяці тому +5

      That being said, it does seem like rotating the camera while the ball is in motion changes its course.

    • @nepdisc3722
      @nepdisc3722 3 місяці тому +13

      @@daregularperson Looks like it. But it doesn't. An illusion!

  • @Massie_
    @Massie_ 5 місяців тому +149

    Vinny rotating the 4th dimension while the ball is rolling is like leaning in your seat to turn more in a racing game.

    • @marcusdaloia2974
      @marcusdaloia2974 5 місяців тому +27

      More like randomly spinning while playing a FPS...Oh my god the man is literally Halo Ghost Spinning.

    • @nickpatella1525
      @nickpatella1525 4 місяці тому +13

      "I must influence the ball after I've hit it... by looking around!"

    • @kamikeserpentail3778
      @kamikeserpentail3778 4 місяці тому +7

      @@marcusdaloia2974 More like like spinning around in your seat in a car thinking it's affecting the direction the car is going.

  • @DerNeik
    @DerNeik 5 місяців тому +166

    4D beings watching this be like: "How's he not getting this?"

    • @TeamSprocket
      @TeamSprocket 5 місяців тому +50

      "it's a straight line from the ball to the hole, do hue-mans not know what a straight line is?"

    • @galoomba5559
      @galoomba5559 5 місяців тому +23

      Well, this is not at all how a 4D being would see the world, so it would probably still seem confusing to them.

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 5 місяців тому +1

      Technically Humans are 4th Dimensional, since the fourth dimension is Time. Sure we only move one direction through this dimension, and have no real control over any exceleration or deceleration within that direction, but we're moving through it.

    • @yeshello2528
      @yeshello2528 5 місяців тому +10

      4D chat members are shocked

    • @juliewinchester1488
      @juliewinchester1488 5 місяців тому

      ​​@@RipOffProductionsLLCgod shut the fuck up holy hell you are so annoying
      4D isn't inherently a temporal dimension. That's a misconception. This game explores a setting with a fourth SPATIAL dimension. That fourth spatial dimension isn't "TIME". There is 1 Temporal Dimension in this game, which I guess would be considered the 5th dimension.
      I've seen you replying to so many comments with this bullshit. Jesus Christ.

  • @Hwyadylaw
    @Hwyadylaw 5 місяців тому +60

    The most impressive thing is making the levels. Both designing the level editor and building and testing fun levels must've been a challenge. The trees are also cool.
    Actually I lied, the most impressive part is finishing and releasing a game.

    • @Kwauhn.
      @Kwauhn. 5 місяців тому +3

      I'm pretty sure the dev had to figure it out themselves to an extent. I'm sure they designed the in-game and level editor tools first and foremost to develop the game, and as a gameplay feature after. Their name is CodeParade, and they have dev logs here on YT if you're curious.

  • @WDWatameVirus
    @WDWatameVirus 5 місяців тому +182

    Wanna talk about some dedication?

    • @nextscitt5046
      @nextscitt5046 5 місяців тому +16

      Ō̶̮̞̻͒͋̉͑O̴̺̺͑̅O̸̢̧̮̪͚̼͌Ő̴̖̏̐͛̅͛U̸̟̽̈́͠͝Ǔ̴̲̖̉Ų̴͇̪̜̥͕̤̤̔̉͘Ǎ̵̢̞̣̭̟̯̙͔̣͘ͅẠ̸̡̜̭̪̜̇͜A̶̹̼͕̣̹̠̻͆̊̾͆̆A̷̧̧͍̣̮̣̙̭͍͕̽͗̈́͌̈́̔̈́̊́̕Ǵ̸̻̔̏͂̀͐͗̌̕͜G̷͔͍͕̩̜͒́͜G̷̲̹̻͓̮̱̲̒̍͊̋̊̀̂Ḧ̸̛̭̜͍̥̠̦́͌͂̔̌Ḩ̴͈̯̘̟̪̠̔H̶̠̥̖͔̙͈̘̙̟͑̐̏͠H̴̝̻̜̱̮͕͖̰̻͋́̔̓̄̋͘͝͝͝ͅH̴̢̛̠̠̩̰̍͛͒̽H̶̗͙͓͙͉͚̦͍̩͒͛̎̿́̀̋̈̄̓ͅ

    • @mslabo102s2
      @mslabo102s2 3 місяці тому

      The game has marble mode post-game, so...

  • @superultramegarobot
    @superultramegarobot 5 місяців тому +67

    Surprised Vinny didn't realize this game is made by the same dev who made Hyperbolica and that Fractal Marble game. Dude programs some of the wildest stuff out there, can't wait to see what he comes up with next.

    • @thinnairr
      @thinnairr 5 місяців тому +7

      In case anyone is looking, the fractal marble game is called Marble Marcher. It's beautiful

    • @1e1001
      @1e1001 4 місяці тому

      @@thinnairr big marble marcher w

    • @mslabo102s2
      @mslabo102s2 4 місяці тому +3

      At this rate Vinny will touch on every CodeParade game because their interest meshes so well.

  • @StagFiesta
    @StagFiesta 5 місяців тому +40

    I keep having points where I go "NO VINNY DO THIS" and then i think "no wait, i have no idea what he should do."

  • @jummy0
    @jummy0 5 місяців тому +197

    since vinny's not playing any further, here's some neat spoilers
    the last world of this game suddenly becomes 5-D, adding new rotations by holding right click and middle click

    • @yurifairy2969
      @yurifairy2969 5 місяців тому

      what the fuck

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +35

      Hopefully he will playing it further, especially after catching up on all the crystals that he missed during the tutorial and then playing the non-challenge courses for the time being

    • @Zugrwow
      @Zugrwow 5 місяців тому +15

      Oh man, now I want Vinny to finish this

    • @robooz
      @robooz 5 місяців тому +27

      A little sad he ended up playing mostly just the difficult challenge mode for most of the video rather that continuing on through the regular courses, but I might check the game out on my own

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 5 місяців тому

      @@Zugrwow Jabroni Mike Super Monkey ball last world moment 💀💀

  • @MeinCouch123
    @MeinCouch123 5 місяців тому +199

    >prerecorded
    >"chat is this real"
    lol

    • @NumberJ42
      @NumberJ42 5 місяців тому +79

      4D chat

    • @OdaSwifteye
      @OdaSwifteye 5 місяців тому +47

      4D chat is always there.

    • @Hithere-uz6wd
      @Hithere-uz6wd 5 місяців тому +9

      Either thats a joke or muscle memory

  • @dymaxion3988
    @dymaxion3988 4 місяці тому +10

    Fun fact about 4 dimensions: if a 4D creature picked you up, simply rotated you 180° on the 4th axis, and set you back down, your body would be mirrored (heart on the wrong side, etc)! Whether you would feel like you were mirrored or the rest of the 3D world was mirrored is a philosophical question.

    • @Salamander876
      @Salamander876 3 місяці тому +2

      The word would be mirrored. It’d be like picking up a paper organism flipping it over, and then setting it back down. It would see everything in the wrong way.
      The people who weren’t picked up and turned around would see you as mirrored, but YOU would see THEM as mirrored.

  • @Darksiege357
    @Darksiege357 5 місяців тому +29

    This game unironically has one of the best twist endings ever. No that is not a joke. My jaw literally dropped when the twist happened

  • @samuelbucher5189
    @samuelbucher5189 5 місяців тому +130

    NOOO, he is grumping it 😭. He's not reading the crystals.

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +22

      Yeah, it's unfortunate. He should really catch up on the ones throughout the tutorial at the very least.

    • @BIGBOYGAMING03
      @BIGBOYGAMING03 5 місяців тому +10

      There's a term based off of Game Grumps now? Damn.

    • @samuelbucher5189
      @samuelbucher5189 5 місяців тому +10

      @@BIGBOYGAMING03 I don't know about the term's origin, but it's far from new.

    • @JacobKinsley
      @JacobKinsley 5 місяців тому +20

      The difference is vinny isn't intentionally trying to annoy the audience as part of an ongoing and elaborate bit
      OR IS HE?!

    • @SchadenfreudeUY
      @SchadenfreudeUY 5 місяців тому +3

      New verb unlocked

  • @connor6054
    @connor6054 5 місяців тому +78

    you aren't shifting or moving around in 4d when you use the left mouse, you're looking around

  • @cosmickoffee
    @cosmickoffee 5 місяців тому +102

    This is "???????" the game. Biblically accurate golf. I've never been more nauseated and existentially afraid.

    • @TheSilly6403
      @TheSilly6403 5 місяців тому +2

      I don't understand the biblically accurate meme, what is biblical about the fourth dimension

    • @iwiffitthitotonacc4673
      @iwiffitthitotonacc4673 5 місяців тому +17

      ​@@TheSilly6403It's just a slang for "incomprehensible," you know how language evolves over time, it's pretty supermurgitroid.

    • @TheSilly6403
      @TheSilly6403 5 місяців тому +7

      @@iwiffitthitotonacc4673 'biblically accurate' is a pretty long slang word lol

    • @kuberootwastaken
      @kuberootwastaken 5 місяців тому +15

      @@TheSilly6403 I believe it stems from biblically accurate angels, which... Yeah, just look it up. But then you take the idea of this seemingly twisted, horrifying, eldritch, nonsensical view of something you think you know, make a joke of it as "biblically accurate", and transfer it to other stuff.

    • @Zugrwow
      @Zugrwow 5 місяців тому +5

      With how the final level of this game plays out, calling it biblically accurate golf is actually a decent descriptor

  • @kolabold
    @kolabold 5 місяців тому +38

    I'm a bit of a nerd about 4D stuff, so I might pick up this game. As far as I can tell, volume view pretty much swaps your perception of up and down with kata and ana, right? So any flat course can be done pretty easily with that in mind. I'm assuming it gets much less flat later on as a result. And to my understanding, the "ghost projections" are just shadows. Pretty cool.

    • @ExtremeSquared
      @ExtremeSquared 5 місяців тому +10

      A 2d screen can show 3 dimensions fairly easily. In the context of golf, the third dimension is mostly useless. The volume view more or less replaces up/down with ana/kata and then re-renders the scene. It falls apart when the courses have a lot going on in the third dimension, like jumps and hills. This was seen when Vinny was stumped by those rolling hills. I wish there was a tutorial in the game saying "this view is sometimes totally useless".

    • @galoomba5559
      @galoomba5559 5 місяців тому +14

      Yeah, the levels get way less flat in later levels, especially in Nebula.
      I don't think i'd call ghost projections shadows? They're parallel projections in the direction orthogonal to your slice

    • @Adam-zt4cn
      @Adam-zt4cn 5 місяців тому +1

      I would describe the ghost projections as taking the view of what a true 4D being would see with their 3D eye retinas, and squashing it in a hydraulic press ( = orthogonal projection) to fit onto our 2D computer screen. Like setting the width of an image in an image editor to a single pixel.
      Well, at least that would be the in-game view with slicing toggled off. (when pressing 1 in the game)
      With slicing, it's like the central line of pixels in the squashed image is rendered with higher opacity than the pixels to the sides.

    • @taanwallbanks9841
      @taanwallbanks9841 5 місяців тому +2

      theres a useful setting (that honestly should be enabled by default) that colours the ghost projections, so you can tell if they're to the ana or to the kata of you

    • @galoomba5559
      @galoomba5559 5 місяців тому +1

      @@taanwallbanks9841 There are several settings that should be on by default but aren't. Ghost colour, metered putting, probably not stereographic compass per se but at least the default compass should rotate like that

  • @masterofdoom5000
    @masterofdoom5000 5 місяців тому +61

    "I'm so bad at this" Vinny.....understanding the fourth dimension is not a skill most people will be picking up naturally, they don't prep you for this. If I didn't have a good sleep and a big breakfast most humans would not be in the mood to understand and APPLY the 4th dimension.

    • @poppers7317
      @poppers7317 4 місяці тому

      being able to actually see the fourth dimension together with the other 3 dimensions would help a lot

    • @Ethan13371
      @Ethan13371 4 місяці тому +3

      I think I might raise my kids on this game

  • @olxad9
    @olxad9 5 місяців тому +94

    She be ana'ing my kata till I ghost project

    • @Flagdread
      @Flagdread 5 місяців тому +41

      *Extremely loud incorrect buzzer*

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 5 місяців тому +8

      @@Flagdread ❌

    • @Adam-zt4cn
      @Adam-zt4cn 5 місяців тому +1

      She whirling on my clifford torus till I double rotate

  • @commandantcarpenter
    @commandantcarpenter 5 місяців тому +24

    all jokes aside, this is an amazing tool for explaining the physical dimensions, how they function, and how to conceive of higher order dimensions beyond our usual 3rd.

  • @Android480
    @Android480 5 місяців тому +142

    I fully expect Vinny to hate this

    • @OxIGeZ
      @OxIGeZ 5 місяців тому +31

      he HATES the 4th dimention

    • @LinusBitchTits
      @LinusBitchTits 5 місяців тому +27

      @@OxIGeZRACIST Italian-American streamer/musician goes on HATEFUL tirade against the people of the 4th Dimension.

  • @Vrikrar
    @Vrikrar 5 місяців тому +19

    The part where he physically mapped out the direction like 17 times then immediately went straight into a dead end was my favorite, that made me laugh the most.

  • @peepance1799
    @peepance1799 5 місяців тому +25

    Its just rotating; 3d objects have a 2d shadow so 4d objects have a 3d shadow

    • @kingcrimson4133
      @kingcrimson4133 5 місяців тому +2

      as long as they're being shone upon by a 4d light source :p

  • @Kwauhn.
    @Kwauhn. 5 місяців тому +19

    4:58 Considering the analogy of 3D space being a "slice" of 4D space, I hope Vinny knew the genius of the "it's not all it's cut out to be" line hahaha

  • @commandantcarpenter
    @commandantcarpenter 5 місяців тому +11

    slightly distressing how vinny is so confused by 4 dimensions, cause who fucking wouldn't be, and instead of walking the course to figure out a plan just starts whacking things with his putter. lol

    • @marcusdaloia2974
      @marcusdaloia2974 5 місяців тому +4

      You'd be concerned by how many people just go full "The files are _in_ the computer" when exposed to even a basic escape-room.

  • @Seany1616
    @Seany1616 5 місяців тому +50

    hold on, did you just shift reality

    • @marcusdaloia2974
      @marcusdaloia2974 5 місяців тому +6

      Cross your eyes and ask yourself that same question.

    • @Ethan13371
      @Ethan13371 4 місяці тому +2

      It’s just weird object permanence. When turn our heads to see what’s behind us, we leave what we were looking at earlier exactly as is, but we see something new. In 4d space it’s the same, just new and unnatural to us.

  • @Oshamoff
    @Oshamoff 5 місяців тому +17

    Making a golf game with such a concept is already mega brained, but shipping it with an actual level editor is absolute genius.

  • @MrThatguyuknow
    @MrThatguyuknow 5 місяців тому +46

    I was waiting for Vinny's inevitable play-through of this since the beginning of its development. Hearing his last brain cells struggle to say "...where hole...?" was exactly what I hoped for.

  • @LunarAquatics1
    @LunarAquatics1 5 місяців тому +26

    Damn kids these days and their 4 dimensional video games

  • @ExtremeSquared
    @ExtremeSquared 5 місяців тому +11

    I finished the game. By the end, I mostly understood what was happening. I still got almost 300 over par on the last level.

  • @AMTRAX
    @AMTRAX 5 місяців тому +16

    The part that gets me is that the music of this game is just a riff on the Disney Channel pneumonic

    • @Blues_Light
      @Blues_Light 5 місяців тому +1

      I'm glad I'm not the only one hearing it.

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +5

      You mean the music you got to hear so far, right?

    • @augiekintop6242
      @augiekintop6242 4 місяці тому

      hey it's the pocket lint guy

  • @samuelbucher5189
    @samuelbucher5189 5 місяців тому +18

    This game actually has a marble mode you unlock by beating the campaign.

  • @franck-oq4jv
    @franck-oq4jv 5 місяців тому +22

    I feel like my brain is doing physical work just to visually understand what is happening.

    • @thinnairr
      @thinnairr 5 місяців тому

      We need yellow paint developers!

    • @marcusdaloia2974
      @marcusdaloia2974 5 місяців тому +1

      I feel like the 3D "shadows" should have been red or blue depending on which direction of the extra dimension the objects they were of were relative to the 3D "slice" you were in.

    • @rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven
      @rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven 4 місяці тому

      @@marcusdaloia2974 There's an option for that in the settings. I'm not sure but I think a crystal tells you this.

    • @hiccupwarrior89
      @hiccupwarrior89 4 місяці тому +1

      @@marcusdaloia2974 there's a setting for that in the game, it's just off by default

  • @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
    @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn 5 місяців тому +70

    Fun Fact: you can't change where the ball goes once you've chosen your putt. you can just change how you see it.

    • @galoomba5559
      @galoomba5559 5 місяців тому +26

      Yeah, you're still just rotating your view. Seems like Vinny didn't really understand that.

    • @FigureEightDouble
      @FigureEightDouble 5 місяців тому +2

      Are you sure about that? To my conception you are moving the ball through the ana/kata along with your own view, given that the ball can hit walls that weren't in the 3d plane you putt from if you bring those walls into view while the ball is travelling.

    • @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
      @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn 5 місяців тому +1

      @@FigureEightDouble that doesn't change where the ball goes

    • @FigureEightDouble
      @FigureEightDouble 5 місяців тому +1

      @@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn If the ball is travelling along the ana/kata axis, then it's travel trajectory is being changed by that. Which will most definitely change where the ball goes.

    • @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
      @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn 5 місяців тому +5

      @@FigureEightDouble that isn't caused by your view rotating though

  • @Tanookicatoon
    @Tanookicatoon 5 місяців тому +76

    I'm kind of shocked that once Vinny saw volume view, he sort of understood what was going on immediately.

    • @galoomba5559
      @galoomba5559 5 місяців тому +43

      Did he though? He still tried to move the ball by rotating all the time

    • @Hithere-uz6wd
      @Hithere-uz6wd 5 місяців тому +4

      He put on his 4d glasses

    • @AlphaetusPrime
      @AlphaetusPrime 5 місяців тому +29

      The game is designed in a way that allows you to make progress even when you feel like you have no idea what's going on

  • @dial2616
    @dial2616 5 місяців тому +30

    imagine if we could move our bodies this preebly

  • @SamLovesMovies25
    @SamLovesMovies25 5 місяців тому +10

    Vinny: Doesn't fully read and/or pay attention to the instructions. Also Vinny: Is very confused, while just randomly moving the view around without even taking a second to look and think about it for a moment lol

  • @sirmudkipthe3rd88
    @sirmudkipthe3rd88 5 місяців тому +6

    1:05 "Your training will begin in a more primitive dimension." Mfw the minigolf game has foreshadowing.

  • @NauyaWasTaken
    @NauyaWasTaken 5 місяців тому +72

    I don't think dinty moore has enough headmeat capacity to comprehend 4th dimensional concepts but we'll see how this goes.

    • @Lishadra
      @Lishadra 5 місяців тому +16

      Brand-new sentence concoction right there

    • @mellowmelly9258
      @mellowmelly9258 5 місяців тому +10

      you mean his thinkpan

    • @TechnicolorMammoth
      @TechnicolorMammoth 5 місяців тому +1

      Your profile pic is adorable

    • @Hithere-uz6wd
      @Hithere-uz6wd 5 місяців тому +5

      No human does because we dont even know what its like

    • @Armameteus
      @Armameteus 5 місяців тому +1

      @@mellowmelly9258 His think-a-ma-jig.

  • @MasterPoIsoN1
    @MasterPoIsoN1 5 місяців тому +17

    "If the 2d eye was dropped in the 3d world, it would be able rotate its 1d vision in new ways"
    Uh no, according to Lovecraft, it would go insane.

    • @marcusdaloia2974
      @marcusdaloia2974 5 місяців тому +8

      Lovecraft was going insane at the idea of refrigeration; it is fair to say that he was slightly biased on the matter.

    • @JacobKinsley
      @JacobKinsley 5 місяців тому +3

      According to lovecraft it is like, really really scary, and um... Like, so scary I can't even describe haha... I cannot even put into words how scary it is. Scary enough to make you... Go crazy? Perchance? Blah blah 🤪 the person would be rather off-the-wall and eccentric as a result of observing such a terrifying and horrid thing.

    • @aLesbianStaccato
      @aLesbianStaccato 5 місяців тому

      To be fair you probably would go a bit mental being exposed to that type of stuff

  • @Rollthered
    @Rollthered 5 місяців тому +5

    I love how the song never resolves melody, which subliminally makes the game even more frustrating.

  • @hoffer_moment
    @hoffer_moment 5 місяців тому +13

    i'm perceiving a theoretical 4th dimension through a 3D game projected in 2D onto a screen... huh

    • @TheSilly6403
      @TheSilly6403 5 місяців тому +4

      And seen through a 1D brained streamer 🥰

  • @itryen7632
    @itryen7632 5 місяців тому +12

    Binyorten Vinshastnertnönoanninen needs to play this again. The whole thing will click eventually.

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +7

      As long as he reads the tutorial crystals

  • @NekkoBlue
    @NekkoBlue 5 місяців тому +35

    Would love to see Vinny play 5D Chess with Multiverse Time Travel as a follow-up lol
    that's an actual game on steam btw, i'm not joking

    • @Hithere-uz6wd
      @Hithere-uz6wd 5 місяців тому +1

      5d chess is 2d chess with the addition of the 5th dimensions unique property

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Hithere-uz6wd
      Technically 2D Chess is just an abstraction of 3D Chess: as the Knight is still leaping "over" other pieces as it moves.

    • @mslabo102s2
      @mslabo102s2 3 місяці тому

      That game has 3D space (including Knight jumping over pieces) with 2 time dimensions.

    • @Hithere-uz6wd
      @Hithere-uz6wd 3 місяці тому

      @@RipOffProductionsLLC Technically 2D + 3D + 5D is like 7D

  • @ARP179
    @ARP179 5 місяців тому +8

    Imagine this game in VR. Or just like, experiencing any 4D simulation in VR. "Hey professor can you return to slide 5-F I was in the wrong kata." Mental.

    • @Wulfstrex
      @Wulfstrex 5 місяців тому +5

      VR has already been announced for a future update

    • @fireballninja01
      @fireballninja01 5 місяців тому +1

      Vihart has done some exploration into non-euclidean VR

  • @donovanmahan2901
    @donovanmahan2901 5 місяців тому +5

    21:50 here we see Vinny's passive activating in making him go out of bounds when that shouldn't even be possible (save for skipping off the back of the hole)

  • @Edward_Kenway998
    @Edward_Kenway998 5 місяців тому +136

    When that zaza hits

    • @catticorner
      @catticorner 5 місяців тому +11

      im literally waiting for the edible to kick in as we speak lol this one is gonna be fun

    • @Adam-zt4cn
      @Adam-zt4cn 5 місяців тому +7

      You absolutely need to play the game until the last stage, there's a stage themed literally about psychedelics and 'shrooms, I am not even joking.

    • @catticorner
      @catticorner 5 місяців тому

      @huhwhatumean bitch me neither!

    • @alanbareiro6806
      @alanbareiro6806 5 місяців тому +3

      When the zaza hits so hard that you unlock new geometry knowledge

    • @thinnairr
      @thinnairr 5 місяців тому +4

      When the zaza hits & you see Amygdala chilling at your local church 👁👁👁👁

  • @RedWaver
    @RedWaver 5 місяців тому +5

    My brain absolutely shattered as soon as volume view was introduced