I choose gooseism...this phenomenon isn't new, wanting so desperately to integrate, that you lose your original identity... "more Irish than the Irish themselves" is coined from it's Latin form in 1803 by Francis Plowden c+p More Irish than the Irish themselves" (Irish: Níos Gaelaí ná na Gaeil féin, Latin: Hiberniores Hibernis ipsis) is a phrase used in Irish historiography to describe a phenomenon of cultural assimilation in late medieval Norman Ireland.
Nish's comments about being disappointed about the first Asian Brits to be in prime political positions reminded me very much of how I felt when Thatcher became PM as a woman. I wanted to be delighted a sister had breached that glass ceiling but her character and politics made that impossible.
@@michaelgrundy956 Ya think? Gosh, if only you could have convinced the world of that premise a few decades or centuries ago. I'm guessing you're a white man? Well done sir, well done.
Absolutely this. I would much rather vote for a white person who's left wing than the likes of Suella Braverman who's very racist Patel before her is a fascist too. Rishi Sunak seems however to be a "yes man" imo Let's not also forget that Cruelly and Patel are Ugandan Asians. There's nothing inherently wrong with being Ugandan and Asian but as Nish talks about, there are structural issues at the top of society The ruling classes in Uganda were often primarily made up of high caste Ugandan Asians, in order to help control the empire. Those same people absolutely looked down on regular south Asian people
I think that we can contextualise it in terms of the question and where the emphasis is placed. "Don't I think that it's wonderful that these British Asian people are now sat at the apex of our political establishment?" If the emphasis is placed on "British Asian" (as in, any British Asian people at all), you get a very different question than if the emphasis is placed on "these" (as in, these specific people). The first, yeah, that's progress. The second, no, they shouldn't have the power to enact their views on other people because those views are plainly and evidently harmful to the people they're being enacted upon.
happens every ten years or so. Tories don't invest and blame immigrants, Labour gets in, reinvests in public services... everyone moans about being taxed. Tories get back in, Labour gets in... ad infinitum. Then along comes a proper labour leader ohh Jeremy Corbyn, right wing press goes ape shit, because he's dangerous... could actually break the cycle. However, Keir F***** Starmer. Dear god
Laughter is better for our minds. The only problem with black humour/satire is that you hit a point where you have to face just how bleak the situation is that you are trying to find humour in.
From The Guardian, 13th April 2023, 'A former senior minister from Boris Johnson’s government told the Guardian they believed Braverman was a “real racist bigot”.'
On joining the Tories, they each sign a written pledge to be genuine, racist, ignorant bigots. It is the only occasion the Tories do not lie and are transparent. They know the difference between being honest and dishonest- they always choose dishonesty, it is their tory trait when dealing with the electorate, lie, deceive and mislead is simply the tory way. Fact.
Simply a gem of a human being! I really enjoyed this interview. Isn't it interesting how comedians are the voice of reason instead of politicians a lot of the times?
@@chrisbfreelance It's really interesting how you took the time to write that (something negative and critical) without giving any idea as to why you think that. Making that comment (like so many on the Internet) futile and not more helpful than a fart.
What has happened in the UK in the last 13 years... I am a Canadian who moved to the UK from the US in 2008 and my roommates in London thought it was hilarious that Boris Johnson was elected as mayor and possibly even voted for him. I was horrified and it made me feel quite weary of British sensibilities in general, if taking the piss was the primary objective of local politics. Perhaps that sensibility comes of out generations of disenfranchisement.
And yeah, I do think that electing Boris Johnson as mayor was a certain beginning to an end, but you can also look at it in layers, and it wasn't great when Margaret Thatcher claimed that there was no such thing as society and got rid of public funding, or decades of Queen Victoria in black clothes mourning her husband and giving the middle finger to families not only in her own country but across the whole empire.
I've been trying to figure it out for thirteen long years, I'm actually convinced that the body snatchers invaded and I was one of a very tiny small minority that wasn't effected!! The most shocking part is the fact that very few people know that Rishi aka Roland Rat, is the man who pulled funding from the banks in 2008 and put us into bankruptcy, and people still don't get it that we're being bullied and refused democrasy!!!
As a Brit, this notion that we were a progressive outward looking nation that was sensible is quite unrecognisable. This is the Britain I have always known as someone from the North. What changed was snake oil salesmen like Farage managed to mobilise enough bigots to vote who never took part.
I do love that nish has lucid ideas around politics and yet still stays optimistic. I honestly wish I shared this same belief. Last few years have made me quite cynical..
Once or twice at PMQs. And he got a decent grilling at that Conservative business forum. But yes, he mostly bangs on about his five priorities - which several polls have shown to be not very aligned with people's priorities at all. I'm yet to figure out why spending a fortune on housing asylum seekers makes sense, why don't the Gov just invest that cash in speeding up the claims processing? Just a thought...
Lovely Nish Kumar, an intelligent, funny and political oriented comedian, you are a delight to listen to, and you are knowledgeable on the topic, thank you for making things clearer in what happened in the last 13 years and thanks for explaining the financial inequality the government are creating so that people can turn on each others.
I had the misfortune to see Nish live once - he really wasn't funny at all, but I guess that just makes me a racist in his book... (that was pretty much his act at the time) 🙄 That said, as someone else said, Braverman has succeeded in making Pritti Patel look like a liberal!
Do not underestimate those who have power over your life in regards to competency. They are very competent, and they are wilfully pursuing a very dark agenda. Do not for a second think that they are incompetent, as far too many liberal pundits do (the likes of Obrien springs to mind).
Absolutely! They play off incompetence & my god is it frustrating!! If any "normal" person was to essentially commit crimes or incite hatred, violence, division etc & their reasoning is essentially "Oh me no understood bad people do bad things because I say a silly, whoops!" We'd be out on our arse bare minimum, if not in court facing prison time! It's also terrifying when you look at asshats like Bojo? He played the clown, he is a total twat & whilst I don't see that man as particularly intelligent BUT! He's a grifter, he's all about him & what HE wants & is willing to do whatever it takes to get it. There are plenty of politicians who act in a very similar way, covering their evil intentions with shiny trinkets to distract. Then they jump in, all guns blazing & push through whatever policies it may be before anyone really realises what they're really doing.
This all stems from the mistaken belief that those with power are working for the general population. That has rarely been the case but for some reason people still begin their thinking from this starting point.
Let's not forget that English traditional racism included " no blacks, no Irish" signs on the doors of many buildings. Racism isn't about who you are it's about who you hate.
As an English person of Irish Catholic extraction, I think it is great that there are so many people of different ethnicities, colours, sexualities... taking the flak. England has forgotten all about "Satanic Catholics". Result!
@Some Aussie Guy from Perthyou sound real fuckin racist right now my dude, gonna assume you didn't mean to, most places don't allow dogs and don't like them, hence being on the same signs as no blacks or Irish.
@Some Aussie Guy from Perth It was a famous slogan from the 50s and 60s (especially) made particularly well-known by a photograph of a sign in the window of a Bed & Breakfast from that period.
@@DavidManser I recall it appearing in the 70s and early 80s too, though the attention it received was minimal. Not aware of it appearing from the late 80s onwards.
You can ask Rishi Sunak anything you like and you'll get nothing in return. Except his bullet pointed 5 party priorities being regurgitated at every opportunity as if it's gonna hold anymore water than before, the more often he spews it.
Suella Braverman's father fled Kenya during the Mau Mau uprising, because of all the deaths at the British concentration camp he was running. Now, his daughter is going back to Africa, to set up a British concentration camp. We have been neglecting creating jobs and funding the coast guard, or the civil service for processing migrants, and instead paying money to hoteliers to house migrants in limbo. All so they can eventually be fed as stock to Suella's camps.
FACT CHECK: Christie Fernandes left Kenya in the late sixties (a number of years after Independence, and almost a decade after Mau Mau). I'm certainly no fan or defender of Braverman (or, by extension, her family) nor of the British atrocities in Kenya, but unless you can substantiate your remarks about "the British concentration camp he was running," you must retract that statement.
Mau Mau uprising started in 1952 when her Father would have been about 5 years old yet your saying he was running a concentration camp. Your talking complete bollocks lol
Respect to both Nish and the excellent interviewer. The BBC has historically been seen as impartial news coverage.(for the most part) Pressure from govt removes that neutrality. We see this now where interviewers of Union Leaders hash out tory rhetoric and won't listen or allow viewers to listen to replies. Bring back Mock the Week.
Rishi and Suella are the perfect examples of Internalized racism. It makes total sense for them to try to be the very "best" of nobs, thus adopting the very disgusting attitudes of their social peers that have judged their parents and them as inferior all their lives, excusing and explain away their own experiences as simply circumstantial misinterpretations and not examples of Racism at all.
Wow it's quite surprising that with all that racial discrimination they still managed to attain the highest level of political power for themselves in an popularity contest election system where the overwhelming majority of the voters are what you consider to be completely racist😂🤔
Agree 100% with you, Nish: tackling the climate crisis NOW ought to be society's No.1 priority. In the process we would eradicate the inequalities that exist today. I, too, evidently, am an idealist. Thanks Politics Joe for this great interview 👍
Austerity made the already rich even richer. Cuts to child health and mental health services caused cracks. My child fell through one of those chasms, never to return. Thanks Tories.
Profligate spending on social services will inevitably result in no social services at all as the tax revenues required to fund it all will eventually exceed the capacity of free market capitalism to deliver. No human system is perfect and likely no human system will ever be perfect. I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Unfortunately all human systems result in a degree of failure and the human cost on the personal level must always be borne by individuals. Even totalitarian systems of total state control fail to control all aspects of life and result in outcomes the system is designed to eliminate. No comfort for individual loss, but there is no amount of money that can control all outcomes.
@@TPQ1980 a lot of truth in what you said. Thank you for your kind words. Yes, the mental health workers had far too many people on their books for the number of staff. Mistakes were made, opportunities missed. Also linked in services with wider young people's services and educational settings... protocols that were preached to me and supposedly rolled out were not adhered to by certain individuals in those parts of the process. I did my part, others didn't do theirs. So cuts equals holes. I have no idea how much it cost for the emergency services, inquest, etc. I know how much the funeral costs were. All the charities and help I had after that awful event (bedroom tax after "one year's grace") and I had to move house. My loss of income due to not being fit to work following that. My burden upon the state. My other child's mental health and the cost to the state for the help I've needed with that. Honestly, I think, in my ideal world, budgets should be increased, and robust systems adhered to, as the cost of tragedy is also a lot.
Nish is absolutely correct - if frustrated with the current nature of the BBC, just imagine what a life without it might be like. We've seen what angry people can persuade others to select and what the results of those choices can be .... think carefully before removing more of the culture that makes the British what they are.
Sadly people don't think carefully. They just blindly voted for Boris' hard Brexit because they were desperate to see the Brexit stalemate end. They have to see the consequences of their actions first hand before they realise what a mistake they made.
Britain ceased to be the cultured place you imagine about 13 years ago and it's about to get worse. I haven't watched the BBC for about 10 years and I promise you life is better without it.
@@135Ops You don't have to watch the BBC but try to imagine what would take it's place if it was gone. Do you think this country needs another privately owned GB News style government mouthpiece?
@@135Ops perhaps your values differ from mine. What the BBC has become is not what it was and removing it is guaranteed to reduce quality, whether you believe it or not.
Being so openly hated by the daily Mail and their commenters is the highest possible badge of honour for Nish - their loathing shows they're genuinely scared of him, his views and his excellent delivery.
Nish is up there with Mark Thomas and Tom Walker, modern greats of comedy offering better reporting on British Politics and modern life than the news providers
I enjoyed Nish Kumar's topical tv show but obviously it wasn't exactly surrounded by love by the BBC. So hopefully this new venture will be successful.
I wouldn't describe Braverman as incompetent. That is far too kind and unfair to truly incompetent people who work hard and put effort into the art of being incompetent. In fact, you could say she is incompetent at being incompetent because she never really rises to the height of being incompetent but wallows around way below that level of achievement. You could argue she needs help to become at least 'weakly' incompetent. She really should ask her old mate Boris Johnson for some tips on how to become a true incompetent. He had it down to a fine art.
@@sayithowitis1 they have all played the game so far but the torries daliance with facism is a game changer. the game is breaking down and no ones going to keep the lid on
The most astonishing result that's barely talked about is Dover council. Labour flipped that directly from the Tories. All the xenophobia and stop the boats rhetoric and the Tories couldn't even hold on to Dover.
A solid gold coronation during cost of living crisis. Almost as good as Cameron announcing austerity and government cutbacks left right and centre at a dinner that probably cost 3k+ per seat, sat next to somone on a gold throne.
As an American (Floridian to boot), I do confess I'm a bit of a connoisseur of the US and UK political rigamarole; in fact, in my state it's rather become a necessity for survival. Although I'll catch Favreau's podcasts if the guest sparks an interest, I find myself truly psyched for the UK version and Kumar's interpretation of the format ('cause as aforementioned, the Brits _do_ political humour better..at the very least, y'all are funny.) oh, btw...in America, we call that stinky indiscretion "crop-dusting"..just thought I'd let y'all know. (◠‿◕)
You didn't need to say you were from Florida, we can see it by the way you typed your username and that creepy as hell emoji at the end. You are terrifying
Nish as a hindu would also have recognised that braverman, patel and sunak are hindus and modi supporters so would be racist towards asylum seekers ( mainly middle eastern and black in orign) and blacks in general.
I get your point but I disagree A lot of them feel comfortable talking about south Asian immigration as they make up the bulk of people in this country black people only make up 3% many of whom came under wind rush and many Africans who immigrate don’t make up the percentage that south Asian do Importantly a lot of south Asian make up huge communities in London, South Yorkshire, Manchester everywhere. As someone who goes to Uni up north there’s hardly any black people here but. A lot of international students are either East Asian or international south Asian student or the ones born here make up a huge cohort of students. Suella clearly attacked British Pakistani men in her rage about them sexually assaulting young white working class girls And many of the immigrants housed in hotels are from Syria, Afghanistan, India. There was even a scandal of Vietnamese immigrants scamming the system with them buying a baby daddy to use to stay in the country as they said there children father was a British citizen So no, whilst south Asian are racist especially yes to black people, black peoples are not the centre of these conversations. At this point there irrelevant to these conversations, the only time they bring up black people is when they talk about race and culture wars and woke politics mate And yes there are African immigrants don’t get me wrong, but like I said black African people are being turned away But the others like Lebanese, Indian, Pakistani, Syrian and Afghanistan people are coming on boats and stuff claiming asylum Black people aren’t doing that mate, most come Under a visa to work for the NHS even then there not much But on the news recently is was said that many people from India were coming to the Uk to study under commonwealth visa’s And there the group most loyal to Britain cause there BENEFITTING yet in black commonwealth countries they don’t benefit and are trying to get rid of the monarchy with Jamaica 🇯🇲 being next to get rid of them So no, I think this is another ‘black people are being discriminated by them’ no it doesn’t make sense
There's 20 cookies in the jar. A capitalist takes 19 cookies, and tells the rest of the kids to be aware of other kids, bcz "they will steal your cookie!" while eating the last cookie in front of them.
1 in 5 people in the U.K. were not born here which has significantly increased the population and has cultural implications. It is not right to belittle all concerns or call everyone racist? France has not been able to integrate people and it has raised questions about multiculturalism vs integration and how quickly a country should be changed or if it is changing for the better
Totally agree. Sue La is totally racist but also treats British people, the poor and working poor and treats nhs nurses with complete disdained. She feeds off the frustration of people that need housing and better opportunities wait to see the eu laws Torres are proposing getting rid off, like clean water, cosmetic testing on animals.
Nish may be risking his career (at least with the BBC) for being this frank, but i guess the Chairman resigned, and a change of government widely expected, so maybe not
In sane countries Suella Braverman would've been tossed into prison long ago, and not get out anytime soon ... but then, sane countries have a constitution and independent prosecutors.
Some of the most racist people on earth are Indians - and before people say she was born in UK, her heritage is Indian. Nobody seems to talk about how abhorrent the cast system is because it goes against the narrative.
I think the problem about what to deal with first, between the climate and inequality, is that climate change is kinda of like being on a sinking ship in the middle of the ocean but inequality is like having your hands tied as well. Yes the sinking boat is the bigger problem but there's not much you can do with your hands tied.
Except the elite could have done a lot to reduce GHG emissions over the last forty years without untying the hands of the bottom, say 80% of the population. They did quite the opposite instead, while tightening the ropes on people’s limbs at the same time through austerity 🐄🐂💩
Problem I have is they are confusing racism with immigration. The British born asians working classes get a lot of racism and classism. No one has ever addressed it.
As a brown Brit - I can only agree with what Nish says about not celebrating Sunak, Braverman (or Patel or Cleverly, etc) achieving political status in the UK as some measure of tolerance and progress. I don’t need to repeat what he says, but I see them as ultimate suck ups, desperate for crumbs from the table, like parodies of that bloke off ‘It Ain’t Half Hot, Mum’. They’re teeth-gratingly awful.
Options: A. Have it loud enough to hear interviewer & be deafened by Kumar B. Have it comfortable for Kumar & miss the questions I wish we'd had: C. Balance the fucking audio channels
Seriously? I thought he was a talentless hack who used nepotism to gain a completely undeserved series of television appearances to kickstart a failed comedy career! The more you know I suppose...
It's sadly a very slow process and a reason why I can't support Keir Starmer Keir Starmer rightfully backs Ukraine. Putin wants Ukraine due to it being a former member of the soviet union, and because Ukraine is a bread basket Putin wants pretty much ANY former soviet territory that they're willing to use force to get When it comes to Kashmir however (ie: where my family is from) Keir Starmer says "It's a bilateral issue" all whilst he curries support with Modi Modi believes in an Akhand Bharat and has links to the extremist group, RSS. He too wants the exact same goals as Putin except for South Asia, starting with Kashmir. You can't have an Akhand Bharat without violent imperialism, or super progressive ideas. An Akhand Bharat would put south Asia essentially under Hindu supremacy I too would back a unification of south Asia but not with any Muslim, Sikh or Hindu supremacy. Ie: like the EU, but that's a slight tangent Given that Keir has basically given the green light to Modi, Modi knows the west no longer cares, so he's become ever more aggressive towards Kashmir. Kashmir also has one of the most important resources on the planet which can't readily be used by any county except it's neighboring nations (water) I see his words as a way of saying "Screw the families of 3 million British Kashmiris. You don't actually matter because we want a trade deal with India" FWIW, I'm not anti India either. I'm anti Modi. Pre Modi, India and Pakistan both used diplomacy where possible and blaming the other country where possible Pre Modi, Kashmir had a fairly strong Kashmiri Independence movement. After Modi comes along, almost all Kashmiris sided with Pakistan because they've got a military and Modi is the one attacking, so you don't really have a choice. That and so far, Pakistan has kept it's promise of keeping Kashmir Azad (free) Apparently freedom is only for white people and those countries that have oil can be invades for the false idea of freedom.
Suella(or CRUELLA):Braverman,'s family are originally from Goa, which was under Portuguese control, BRAVERMAN isn't racist ( unless you want to go by old common sayings of Indian people , that Goan's are "More British than the British" ) but she is Religiously and culturally bigoted.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but the U.K. is a class based system, yes some people are racist but upbringing, school and accent mean more to the British than just colour. These new ruling politicians in the U.K. come from ancestors in Indian, Pakistan and general Asian communities and have a much stronger and hatred class system based on creed and religion. Interestingly the demonising of asylum seekers is coming from female Asian politicians, who say they don’t want British ways to be undermined. Aren’t they the ones who have already under minded British values and ways.
i know they are the true masters of it, the majority one by far is the cross worshipping one with the white blonde haired hippy character nailed on to it
They know there are millions very unhappy about high levels of immigration ,, They are not as vocal and heard as middle class England but are very many , People would do well to be aware ,,
Subscribe to the Pubcast or you're a silly goose x: linktr.ee/pubcast
nah, won't bother
Step one - Replace the lords with comedians
Step two - sit back and laugh
Joke's on you, I'm already a silly goose! So ner!
I choose gooseism...this phenomenon isn't new, wanting so desperately to integrate, that you lose your original identity... "more Irish than the Irish themselves" is coined from it's Latin form in 1803 by Francis Plowden c+p More Irish than the Irish themselves" (Irish: Níos Gaelaí ná na Gaeil féin, Latin: Hiberniores Hibernis ipsis) is a phrase used in Irish historiography to describe a phenomenon of cultural assimilation in late medieval Norman Ireland.
She could be incompetent AND racist. She is a tory, and a politician, after all...
Nish's comments about being disappointed about the first Asian Brits to be in prime political positions reminded me very much of how I felt when Thatcher became PM as a woman. I wanted to be delighted a sister had breached that glass ceiling but her character and politics made that impossible.
It's almost as if it's better to judge people by their character and not by their skin colour of genitals...
@@michaelgrundy956 Ya think? Gosh, if only you could have convinced the world of that premise a few decades or centuries ago. I'm guessing you're a white man? Well done sir, well done.
@@michaelgrundy956 Representation has an impact on the society.
Absolutely this. I would much rather vote for a white person who's left wing than the likes of Suella Braverman who's very racist
Patel before her is a fascist too. Rishi Sunak seems however to be a "yes man" imo
Let's not also forget that Cruelly and Patel are Ugandan Asians. There's nothing inherently wrong with being Ugandan and Asian but as Nish talks about, there are structural issues at the top of society
The ruling classes in Uganda were often primarily made up of high caste Ugandan Asians, in order to help control the empire.
Those same people absolutely looked down on regular south Asian people
I think that we can contextualise it in terms of the question and where the emphasis is placed. "Don't I think that it's wonderful that these British Asian people are now sat at the apex of our political establishment?" If the emphasis is placed on "British Asian" (as in, any British Asian people at all), you get a very different question than if the emphasis is placed on "these" (as in, these specific people). The first, yeah, that's progress. The second, no, they shouldn't have the power to enact their views on other people because those views are plainly and evidently harmful to the people they're being enacted upon.
Incompetence and racism are definitely not mutually exclusive.
Oh, they go very well together indeed
yea they do just ask Nish he should know😂😂
I think many of them have been purposely both
@@richardlewis7498 ?
Certainly socially incompetent with anyone she can't manipulate and manoeuvre.
It's easier for the Tories to scapegoat the immigrants for the state of the UK than admit their 13 years of abject failures.
And not to mention corruption
It's easier for them because the people are gullible.
so you don't deny that immigrants are a drain on the nation's finances. interesting.
happens every ten years or so. Tories don't invest and blame immigrants, Labour gets in, reinvests in public services... everyone moans about being taxed. Tories get back in, Labour gets in... ad infinitum. Then along comes a proper labour leader ohh Jeremy Corbyn, right wing press goes ape shit, because he's dangerous... could actually break the cycle. However, Keir F***** Starmer. Dear god
Same as they used to blame the EU for their failures
I can only follow politics through satire
If I can't laugh at it I would probably cry
Laughter is better for our minds. The only problem with black humour/satire is that you hit a point where you have to face just how bleak the situation is that you are trying to find humour in.
@@stevenredpath9332 Indeed. Certainly bleak.
you just articulated my personal thoughts exactly thanks 😂 thats why all i can read is private eye
Politics is satire. Remember borris try to give his dad a gong.
I'm sure british politics is just a pastiche.
@@stevenredpath9332 if you’re looking to laugh you shouldn’t be watching Nish Kumar. Whatever your politics, he isn’t funny.
From The Guardian, 13th April 2023, 'A former senior minister from Boris Johnson’s government told the Guardian they believed Braverman was a “real racist bigot”.'
Which one ?
In other words clever corrupt and evil
Dim , corrupt, and evil.
In other words, the consummate Tory.
Didn't see that one, but wow. a member of the Johnson government told the actual truth................. all I can say is wow.
On joining the Tories, they each sign a written pledge to be genuine, racist, ignorant bigots. It is the only occasion the Tories do not lie and are transparent. They know the difference between being honest and dishonest- they always choose dishonesty, it is their tory trait when dealing with the electorate, lie, deceive and mislead is simply the tory way. Fact.
Simply a gem of a human being! I really enjoyed this interview. Isn't it interesting how comedians are the voice of reason instead of politicians a lot of the times?
So true alas. Pity they don’t stand for election
He's ignorant, far from a voice of reason.
@@chrisbfreelance It's really interesting how you took the time to write that (something negative and critical) without giving any idea as to why you think that. Making that comment (like so many on the Internet) futile and not more helpful than a fart.
@@tomh.1336 You think a race grifter is a gem of a human being, I'm hardly going to sway you.
What has happened in the UK in the last 13 years... I am a Canadian who moved to the UK from the US in 2008 and my roommates in London thought it was hilarious that Boris Johnson was elected as mayor and possibly even voted for him. I was horrified and it made me feel quite weary of British sensibilities in general, if taking the piss was the primary objective of local politics. Perhaps that sensibility comes of out generations of disenfranchisement.
And yeah, I do think that electing Boris Johnson as mayor was a certain beginning to an end, but you can also look at it in layers, and it wasn't great when Margaret Thatcher claimed that there was no such thing as society and got rid of public funding, or decades of Queen Victoria in black clothes mourning her husband and giving the middle finger to families not only in her own country but across the whole empire.
I've been trying to figure it out for thirteen long years, I'm actually convinced that the body snatchers invaded and I was one of a very tiny small minority that wasn't effected!! The most shocking part is the fact that very few people know that Rishi aka Roland Rat, is the man who pulled funding from the banks in 2008 and put us into bankruptcy, and people still don't get it that we're being bullied and refused democrasy!!!
As a Brit, this notion that we were a progressive outward looking nation that was sensible is quite unrecognisable. This is the Britain I have always known as someone from the North. What changed was snake oil salesmen like Farage managed to mobilise enough bigots to vote who never took part.
We all took a while to see the true Boris under his clown outfit.
@@joshuataylor3550 Most people of even limited intelligence saw through him long before he became PM.
I do love that nish has lucid ideas around politics and yet still stays optimistic. I honestly wish I shared this same belief. Last few years have made me quite cynical..
The picture of Gary Lineker interrupting Liverpool v Brighton to read excerpts from the communist manifesto will live in my mind's eye forever 😂😂😂😂
I've yet to see Rishi actually answer a single question, there's no point.
He can define a woman which is more than your lefty leader can
@@johnou.k.3780 you’re so easily distracted. 😂
All politicians avoid a straight forward answer, they always dodge the question. Starmer and Sunak are renowned for this.
@@johnou.k.3780 And there's the comedic characature we all enjoy!
Once or twice at PMQs. And he got a decent grilling at that Conservative business forum. But yes, he mostly bangs on about his five priorities - which several polls have shown to be not very aligned with people's priorities at all. I'm yet to figure out why spending a fortune on housing asylum seekers makes sense, why don't the Gov just invest that cash in speeding up the claims processing? Just a thought...
Lovely Nish Kumar, an intelligent, funny and political oriented comedian, you are a delight to listen to, and you are knowledgeable on the topic, thank you for making things clearer in what happened in the last 13 years and thanks for explaining the financial inequality the government are creating so that people can turn on each others.
I had the misfortune to see Nish live once - he really wasn't funny at all, but I guess that just makes me a racist in his book... (that was pretty much his act at the time) 🙄 That said, as someone else said, Braverman has succeeded in making Pritti Patel look like a liberal!
He's a comedian ?
Do not underestimate those who have power over your life in regards to competency. They are very competent, and they are wilfully pursuing a very dark agenda. Do not for a second think that they are incompetent, as far too many liberal pundits do (the likes of Obrien springs to mind).
Absolutely! They play off incompetence & my god is it frustrating!! If any "normal" person was to essentially commit crimes or incite hatred, violence, division etc & their reasoning is essentially "Oh me no understood bad people do bad things because I say a silly, whoops!"
We'd be out on our arse bare minimum, if not in court facing prison time!
It's also terrifying when you look at asshats like Bojo? He played the clown, he is a total twat & whilst I don't see that man as particularly intelligent BUT! He's a grifter, he's all about him & what HE wants & is willing to do whatever it takes to get it.
There are plenty of politicians who act in a very similar way, covering their evil intentions with shiny trinkets to distract. Then they jump in, all guns blazing & push through whatever policies it may be before anyone really realises what they're really doing.
This all stems from the mistaken belief that those with power are working for the general population. That has rarely been the case but for some reason people still begin their thinking from this starting point.
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Let's not forget that English traditional racism included " no blacks, no Irish" signs on the doors of many buildings. Racism isn't about who you are it's about who you hate.
As an English person of Irish Catholic extraction, I think it is great that there are so many people of different ethnicities, colours, sexualities... taking the flak.
England has forgotten all about "Satanic Catholics". Result!
Skin
@Some Aussie Guy from Perthyou sound real fuckin racist right now my dude, gonna assume you didn't mean to, most places don't allow dogs and don't like them, hence being on the same signs as no blacks or Irish.
@Some Aussie Guy from Perth It was a famous slogan from the 50s and 60s (especially) made particularly well-known by a photograph of a sign in the window of a Bed & Breakfast from that period.
@@DavidManser I recall it appearing in the 70s and early 80s too, though the attention it received was minimal. Not aware of it appearing from the late 80s onwards.
You can ask Rishi Sunak anything you like and you'll get nothing in return.
Except his bullet pointed 5 party priorities being regurgitated at every opportunity as if it's gonna hold anymore water than before, the more often he spews it.
But what do you expect from someone who is simply a male nipple looking for a purpose?
Suella Braverman's father fled Kenya during the Mau Mau uprising, because of all the deaths at the British concentration camp he was running. Now, his daughter is going back to Africa, to set up a British concentration camp.
We have been neglecting creating jobs and funding the coast guard, or the civil service for processing migrants, and instead paying money to hoteliers to house migrants in limbo. All so they can eventually be fed as stock to Suella's camps.
FACT CHECK: Christie Fernandes left Kenya in the late sixties (a number of years after Independence, and almost a decade after Mau Mau).
I'm certainly no fan or defender of Braverman (or, by extension, her family) nor of the British atrocities in Kenya, but unless you can substantiate your remarks about "the British concentration camp he was running," you must retract that statement.
Mau Mau uprising started in 1952 when her Father would have been about 5 years old yet your saying he was running a concentration camp. Your talking complete bollocks lol
Respect to both Nish and the excellent interviewer. The BBC has historically been seen as impartial news coverage.(for the most part) Pressure from govt removes that neutrality. We see this now where interviewers of Union Leaders hash out tory rhetoric and won't listen or allow viewers to listen to replies.
Bring back Mock the Week.
Rishi and Suella are the perfect examples of Internalized racism. It makes total sense for them to try to be the very "best" of nobs, thus adopting the very disgusting attitudes of their social peers that have judged their parents and them as inferior all their lives, excusing and explain away their own experiences as simply circumstantial misinterpretations and not examples of Racism at all.
Wow it's quite surprising that with all that racial discrimination they still managed to attain the highest level of political power for themselves in an popularity contest election system where the overwhelming majority of the voters are what you consider to be completely racist😂🤔
Nonsense
what your saying is they cannot be racist on their own, they are being racist because the white men told them to? Get out.
@@SCrEenNaMe-i9h You jest, good sir.
And no matter how hard they try, Rishi and Suella will never be white.
So good to hear Nish Kumar again since the BBC jettisoned one of their finest programmes. A great interview and so necessary.
I thoroughly enjoyed that conversation👍
Agree 100% with you, Nish: tackling the climate crisis NOW ought to be society's No.1 priority. In the process we would eradicate the inequalities that exist today. I, too, evidently, am an idealist. Thanks Politics Joe for this great interview 👍
Austerity made the already rich even richer. Cuts to child health and mental health services caused cracks. My child fell through one of those chasms, never to return. Thanks Tories.
Profligate spending on social services will inevitably result in no social services at all as the tax revenues required to fund it all will eventually exceed the capacity of free market capitalism to deliver. No human system is perfect and likely no human system will ever be perfect. I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Unfortunately all human systems result in a degree of failure and the human cost on the personal level must always be borne by individuals. Even totalitarian systems of total state control fail to control all aspects of life and result in outcomes the system is designed to eliminate. No comfort for individual loss, but there is no amount of money that can control all outcomes.
@@TPQ1980 a lot of truth in what you said. Thank you for your kind words. Yes, the mental health workers had far too many people on their books for the number of staff. Mistakes were made, opportunities missed. Also linked in services with wider young people's services and educational settings... protocols that were preached to me and supposedly rolled out were not adhered to by certain individuals in those parts of the process. I did my part, others didn't do theirs. So cuts equals holes. I have no idea how much it cost for the emergency services, inquest, etc. I know how much the funeral costs were. All the charities and help I had after that awful event (bedroom tax after "one year's grace") and I had to move house. My loss of income due to not being fit to work following that. My burden upon the state. My other child's mental health and the cost to the state for the help I've needed with that. Honestly, I think, in my ideal world, budgets should be increased, and robust systems adhered to, as the cost of tragedy is also a lot.
Labour bailed out the bankers and cleared the decks for the Tories
Nish Kumar is absolutely spot on. Nothing really to add to be honest.
What the world needs is more podcasts
Why not? It's not like you are forced to listen to them all.
What the world actually needs now is less UA-cam comments
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Dammit
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Fewer YT comments. Not less.
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Shit
Podelicious
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"Knock, knock"
"Whos there?"
"To"
"To who?"
"No, it's to whom"
I love Nish. Great show Joe!
I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thanks, guys.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE GET A SOUND ENGINEER!!!!
I honestly would love to see more videos from Nish on this channel, not only is he genuinely funny, but he knows what he's talking about.
He’s definitely not funny and he’s a racist
And his mere existence enrages the most dull minded racists, which is a bonus :D
Nish is absolutely correct - if frustrated with the current nature of the BBC, just imagine what a life without it might be like. We've seen what angry people can persuade others to select and what the results of those choices can be .... think carefully before removing more of the culture that makes the British what they are.
Sadly people don't think carefully. They just blindly voted for Boris' hard Brexit because they were desperate to see the Brexit stalemate end. They have to see the consequences of their actions first hand before they realise what a mistake they made.
Britain ceased to be the cultured place you imagine about 13 years ago and it's about to get worse. I haven't watched the BBC for about 10 years and I promise you life is better without it.
@@135Ops You don't have to watch the BBC but try to imagine what would take it's place if it was gone. Do you think this country needs another privately owned GB News style government mouthpiece?
@@135Ops perhaps your values differ from mine. What the BBC has become is not what it was and removing it is guaranteed to reduce quality, whether you believe it or not.
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Unlikely. And how do you know?
Being so openly hated by the daily Mail and their commenters is the highest possible badge of honour for Nish - their loathing shows they're genuinely scared of him, his views and his excellent delivery.
The idea that hatred can only be the result of fear is so stupid I can almost imagine Nish Kumar saying it.
Nish is up there with Mark Thomas and Tom Walker, modern greats of comedy offering better reporting on British Politics and modern life than the news providers
His podcast with coco is phenominal
He has a victim complex, he can't be rational.
I enjoyed Nish Kumar's topical tv show but obviously it wasn't exactly surrounded by love by the BBC. So hopefully this new venture will be successful.
Wasn't surround by love by anyone.
I wouldn't describe Braverman as incompetent. That is far too kind and unfair to truly incompetent people who work hard and put effort into the art of being incompetent. In fact, you could say she is incompetent at being incompetent because she never really rises to the height of being incompetent but wallows around way below that level of achievement. You could argue she needs help to become at least 'weakly' incompetent. She really should ask her old mate Boris Johnson for some tips on how to become a true incompetent. He had it down to a fine art.
Absolute quality guys. Nothing but truth here.
Yup.. the original sin.. they got away with it thus far too. Which is a permission slip to act even more extreme
Great individual and well informed,good to listen to him,also a talented comic✊❤️👌
He also has great taste in music and film
she needs to face criminal charges if anyone dies in rwhanda and a life in prison, she should live in fear of that forever
Bit like labour Tony Blair being a war criminal how did that go.
@@sayithowitis1 they have all played the game so far but the torries daliance with facism is a game changer. the game is breaking down and no ones going to keep the lid on
@@robertallen591 if a plane goes to rwanda labour are finished.
@@sayithowitis1 no the far right are dead in the water no one voted for them or ever will
Doesn't sound like even our King approves of Rwanda...they are not getting it....
I love Nish, he's knowledgeable, passionate and expressive.
The most astonishing result that's barely talked about is Dover council. Labour flipped that directly from the Tories. All the xenophobia and stop the boats rhetoric and the Tories couldn't even hold on to Dover.
I prefer this Nish. Looking forward to the podcast.
A solid gold coronation during cost of living crisis. Almost as good as Cameron announcing austerity and government cutbacks left right and centre at a dinner that probably cost 3k+ per seat, sat next to somone on a gold throne.
That section on racism and Nish’s powerful reply is absolutely spot on!!!!
Nish was so great on that bbc2 programme that was cut..surprise surprise..
As an American (Floridian to boot), I do confess I'm a bit of a connoisseur of the US and UK political rigamarole; in fact, in my state it's rather become a necessity for survival. Although I'll catch Favreau's podcasts if the guest sparks an interest, I find myself truly psyched for the UK version and Kumar's interpretation of the format ('cause as aforementioned, the Brits _do_ political humour better..at the very least, y'all are funny.)
oh, btw...in America, we call that stinky indiscretion "crop-dusting"..just thought I'd let y'all know. (◠‿◕)
You didn't need to say you were from Florida, we can see it by the way you typed your username and that creepy as hell emoji at the end. You are terrifying
WTAF
@@temptemp4174uh-oh...keep talkin' like that and you might just end up with Goofy's head in your bed ala 'The Godfather' (◠‿◕)。◕‿◕。(◔‿◔)
@@rehanasvideos I could say the same about your Fortnite dance, Minnie Mouth
Please stop doing a preview at top of the show. There is no need.
Instead of "not my King" banners it should have been "We wish you were a tampon"
Nish as a hindu would also have recognised that braverman, patel and sunak are hindus and modi supporters so would be racist towards asylum seekers ( mainly middle eastern and black in orign) and blacks in general.
I get your point but I disagree
A lot of them feel comfortable talking about south Asian immigration as they make up the bulk of people in this country black people only make up 3% many of whom came under wind rush and many Africans who immigrate don’t make up the percentage that south Asian do
Importantly a lot of south Asian make up huge communities in London, South Yorkshire, Manchester everywhere. As someone who goes to Uni up north there’s hardly any black people here but. A lot of international students are either East Asian or international south Asian student or the ones born here make up a huge cohort of students.
Suella clearly attacked British Pakistani men in her rage about them sexually assaulting young white working class girls
And many of the immigrants housed in hotels are from Syria, Afghanistan, India. There was even a scandal of Vietnamese immigrants scamming the system with them buying a baby daddy to use to stay in the country as they said there children father was a British citizen
So no, whilst south Asian are racist especially yes to black people, black peoples are not the centre of these conversations. At this point there irrelevant to these conversations, the only time they bring up black people is when they talk about race and culture wars and woke politics mate
And yes there are African immigrants don’t get me wrong, but like I said black African people are being turned away
But the others like Lebanese, Indian, Pakistani, Syrian and Afghanistan people are coming on boats and stuff claiming asylum
Black people aren’t doing that mate, most come
Under a visa to work for the NHS even then there not much
But on the news recently is was said that many people from India were coming to the Uk to study under commonwealth visa’s
And there the group most loyal to Britain cause there BENEFITTING yet in black commonwealth countries they don’t benefit and are trying to get rid of the monarchy with Jamaica 🇯🇲 being next to get rid of them
So no, I think this is another ‘black people are being discriminated by them’ no it doesn’t make sense
There's 20 cookies in the jar. A capitalist takes 19 cookies, and tells the rest of the kids to be aware of other kids, bcz "they will steal your cookie!" while eating the last cookie in front of them.
24:01 The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
No it doesn't. It just wobbles all over the fucking place.
Love Nish Kumar, very insightful man.
great words as always, fun unbias conversation with a hint of humor. recipe for a good conversation :) , amazing as always.
Thanks, great and powerful interview.
Really enjoyed this conversation
Slightly sorry Nish didn't speak about class interest in regards to Sunak and Braverman.
What Nish discribes as the "original sin" I totally agree is the seed from which all the other damage has grown.
Clearly, Joe or Pod Save America couldn’t get Romesh on!
Jokes aside, I love Nish and this was a thoroughly enjoyable watch/listen.
Or more importantly Romesh's mum.
"Jokes aside": Nish Kumar's personal and professional motto.
1 in 5 people in the U.K. were not born here which has significantly increased the population and has cultural implications. It is not right to belittle all concerns or call everyone racist?
France has not been able to integrate people and it has raised questions about multiculturalism vs integration and how quickly a country should be changed or if it is changing for the better
Totally agree. Sue
La is totally racist but also treats British people, the poor and working poor and treats nhs nurses with complete disdained. She feeds off the frustration of people that need housing and better opportunities wait to see the eu laws Torres are proposing getting rid off, like clean water, cosmetic testing on animals.
I love Nish and Coco on Pod Save the UK. Fantastic!
Nish may be risking his career (at least with the BBC) for being this frank, but i guess the Chairman resigned, and a change of government widely expected, so maybe not
Agree: Daily Mail and Spectator, Daily Express etc act perniciously to undermine reality and true debate based on facts
In sane countries Suella Braverman would've been tossed into prison long ago, and not get out anytime soon ... but then, sane countries have a constitution and independent prosecutors.
Christ you lefties are mental
And an independent police force ....
The US has a constitution and their situation is about as far from sane as Russia with their insurrectionist MAGA types in congress etc.
Please list a crime she is guilty of.
@@chrisbfreelance -- Do some homework, troll.
Nish is a treasure
If Nish became a national treasure I would be very proud of this nation
No
@@somecontrol268 cringe
Is a turd sprayed gold a treasure?
Some of the most racist people on earth are Indians - and before people say she was born in UK, her heritage is Indian. Nobody seems to talk about how abhorrent the cast system is because it goes against the narrative.
I have been to india and I did notice forms of racism! It can be from having darker skin to your blood line! The cast system is a joke
What does India have to do with the UK?
I think the problem about what to deal with first, between the climate and inequality, is that climate change is kinda of like being on a sinking ship in the middle of the ocean but inequality is like having your hands tied as well.
Yes the sinking boat is the bigger problem but there's not much you can do with your hands tied.
Except the elite could have done a lot to reduce GHG emissions over the last forty years without untying the hands of the bottom, say 80% of the population. They did quite the opposite instead, while tightening the ropes on people’s limbs at the same time through austerity 🐄🐂💩
Problem I have is they are confusing racism with immigration. The British born asians working classes get a lot of racism and classism. No one has ever addressed it.
Great look forward to your podcast ,joined up thinking at last
Cheer PJ looking forward to Nish and his new show very good bloke loved him on Frankie Boyle. Watching from Scotland peace and love to all
If voting made any difference, they wouldn't allow us to do it
Great interview
Respect to Nish 👍
As a brown Brit - I can only agree with what Nish says about not celebrating Sunak, Braverman (or Patel or Cleverly, etc) achieving political status in the UK as some measure of tolerance and progress. I don’t need to repeat what he says, but I see them as ultimate suck ups, desperate for crumbs from the table, like parodies of that bloke off ‘It Ain’t Half Hot, Mum’. They’re teeth-gratingly awful.
Those like you that subscribe to identity politics are emotionally undeveloped to make sense of the world.
2023:
Nuanced political analysis: Nish Kumar
Political Comedian: Boris Johnson
Options:
A. Have it loud enough to hear interviewer & be deafened by Kumar
B. Have it comfortable for Kumar & miss the questions
I wish we'd had:
C. Balance the fucking audio channels
Wait…Nish Kumar’s a comedian 😮 who knew…
Seriously? I thought he was a talentless hack who used nepotism to gain a completely undeserved series of television appearances to kickstart a failed comedy career!
The more you know I suppose...
Wow you're so edgy and cool.
“The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.” Just for posterity’s sake.
It's sadly a very slow process and a reason why I can't support Keir Starmer
Keir Starmer rightfully backs Ukraine. Putin wants Ukraine due to it being a former member of the soviet union, and because Ukraine is a bread basket
Putin wants pretty much ANY former soviet territory that they're willing to use force to get
When it comes to Kashmir however (ie: where my family is from) Keir Starmer says "It's a bilateral issue" all whilst he curries support with Modi
Modi believes in an Akhand Bharat and has links to the extremist group, RSS. He too wants the exact same goals as Putin except for South Asia, starting with Kashmir.
You can't have an Akhand Bharat without violent imperialism, or super progressive ideas. An Akhand Bharat would put south Asia essentially under Hindu supremacy
I too would back a unification of south Asia but not with any Muslim, Sikh or Hindu supremacy. Ie: like the EU, but that's a slight tangent
Given that Keir has basically given the green light to Modi, Modi knows the west no longer cares, so he's become ever more aggressive towards Kashmir. Kashmir also has one of the most important resources on the planet which can't readily be used by any county except it's neighboring nations (water)
I see his words as a way of saying "Screw the families of 3 million British Kashmiris. You don't actually matter because we want a trade deal with India"
FWIW, I'm not anti India either. I'm anti Modi. Pre Modi, India and Pakistan both used diplomacy where possible and blaming the other country where possible
Pre Modi, Kashmir had a fairly strong Kashmiri Independence movement. After Modi comes along, almost all Kashmiris sided with Pakistan because they've got a military and Modi is the one attacking, so you don't really have a choice.
That and so far, Pakistan has kept it's promise of keeping Kashmir Azad (free)
Apparently freedom is only for white people and those countries that have oil can be invades for the false idea of freedom.
Brilliant. . Gentlemen. . 👍👍
She is VERY competent in ... COLONIALISM ... she is here to reactivate ...
Correction, she is racist therefore she is incompetent
Suella(or CRUELLA):Braverman,'s family are originally from Goa, which was under Portuguese control,
BRAVERMAN isn't racist ( unless you want to go by old common sayings of Indian people , that Goan's are "More British than the British" ) but she is Religiously and culturally bigoted.
Yes 🤔👊🔥✌
Thank you 🗽❤🗽
By the ways, Never forgive, This criminal drug dealer FordNation corrupted a whole population in #Ontario and blinded them to his billionS of dollars of #LOOT ...11 Reasons, Why he deserves #JAIL
1. Gave his own mpps a 16% salary increase on a 160000$ base & fu*ked over everyone else with a 3% increase.
2. Tried killing whistleblowers & witnesses & personally orchestrated the #gangstalking
3. Snow-mobiled when terrorists of #Canada were attacking our Capital.
4. Stole land worth billions
5. Screwed over our public hospitals
6. Screwed over our public transport
7. Screwed over law & order with his Malafide Lies.
8. Old folks died under Ford
9. His own mpps took tax-payer salary for their massages
10. 18 MZO'S to billionaires at his own daughters wedding.
11. Swallowing a BEE and while he was choking still remembered t say "REAL ESTATE" what a #RAAC 🤬
What rush said at the beging was 100% 👌🏾he's on point fully
Big Nish fan, Cheers guys...!
Dont step outside of your echo chamber...bread rolls may ensue
Correct me if I’m wrong but the U.K. is a class based system, yes some people are racist but upbringing, school and accent mean more to the British than just colour. These new ruling politicians in the U.K. come from ancestors in Indian, Pakistan and general Asian communities and have a much stronger and hatred class system based on creed and religion. Interestingly the demonising of asylum seekers is coming from female Asian politicians, who say they don’t want British ways to be undermined. Aren’t they the ones who have already under minded British values and ways.
Oh racism…. Yeah lovely. I’m so looking forward to listening.
The race card shines like a great aluminous star hanging over our head 24/7.....Please give it a rest.
Have long held Nish in deep respect. So bloody funny, satirical and yet politically astute without being out of touch.
Wrong on all fronts.
Love The Nish! ❤️❤️❤️
Spot on
Mention 400 billion covid cost some people on 80% of there salary who'd of thought it would have to be pàid back then
It isn't just about optics. The coronation was basically the world's easiest trolley problem and we still chose wrong.
Loved that.
"the optics are at least shoddy," ahahaha. thats brilliant
Yes! I agree with Romesh!
The electorate loves racist rhetoric. It's why we have tory rule and racist isolationist no friends brexit
I grew up in Apartheid South Africa. Uncanny how much she reminds me of those belligerent, self-righteous securocrats who destroyed so many lives.
I don't understand how noone came up with the name 'pod save the king'
If you want racism or extremism try the religion which runs West Yorkshire.
i know they are the true masters of it, the majority one by far is the cross worshipping one with the white blonde haired hippy character nailed on to it
There's never someone around armed with a bread roll when you need one.
They know there are millions very unhappy about high levels of immigration ,, They are not as vocal and heard as middle class England but are very many , People would do well to be aware ,,