DON'T Move to Denmark in 2024: 7 Reasons It's NOT For You
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Denmark is great, I love living here, but - absolutely - it’s not a place for everyone.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - It’s Cold and Dark
02:05 - There Are No Mountains
03:05 - It’s Not a Place for the Highly Ambitious
04:22 - It’s Hard to Make Friends
05:17 - There’s a LOT of Alcohol
06:19 - Pay Too Much Taxes
07:22 - Small-Town Denmark Is Boring - Навчання та стиль
For the opposite, why you SHOULD move to Denmark, check this video out: ua-cam.com/video/AZmLvfmQh5w/v-deo.html
-- "Cold and Dark"
This highly relative, depending on where you come from. If you come from Canada, UK or the Baltic states its mostly the same as Denmark, because the contries are all on or about the same latitude on the globe. This would be the same reason why not to got to Svalbard or Rio, but its all about expectations set for the worng geographic place.
--"Hard to make friends"
I would say that's because your concept of what "friends" are is very low or shallow. This is the same reason why danes in general dislike idle small talk, because it is seen as putting on a face that isn't you. So at best friends you don't work on getting/keeping, is just people you know of.
-- "Small town is boring"
This is the same for any small town anywhere in the world. Take any small rural town from the US or japan or ect. you will get the same effect.
Yes Denmark is dark in the winther, but really makes up for it in the summer with sunlight for 16-18 hours
Watching this video from a small town somewhere in Jutland, wondering why hadn’t anyone told me all that before I moved here😅🙈 All the points in your video are very spot-on!
Thanks for watching!
In Denmark friends are for life, at least that´s my experience. So, it would seem obvious that the older you get the harder it will be to get new acquaintances which might develop into friendships, in Portugal I had lots of "friends" but I actually prefer my few Danish friends.
Example: Danmark: Some years back I called my friend Bjørn at 4 am in the morning dead drunk and lost, he got angry, called me a bunch of names but he drove 23 kilometers to pick me up, I got some more roast on the way home but fell asleep.
Portugal : I called my cousin whom I considered a good friend in the middle of the night while on vacation in Portugal due to a hotel problem in Coimbra (long story but this time not my fault), he just refused to answer the call and pressed cancel. No, I never prior to this point in time called him to ask for anything.
I know it´s dangerous to generalize but from what I have gathered, easier friendships also tend to crackle under the heat a lot faster. One thing my Danish friends aren´t known for is "small favors" but they will rise to the occasion if the situation is dire. I honestly don´t know if my analysis is correct, it´s just what I have experienced.
Another thing to note is that Portugal has changed immensely since I was young, how things are now is a lot harder for me to have any opinion on.
Thank you for sharing
I moved to Ikast, Jutland 11 months ago. I am still doing okay and feeling fine about the decision. I think the boring part is mostly related to what is your maritial status, family and expectations. It is a very good feeling to have birds singing at 4-5 AM in the morning. Yes, it sometimes sounds boring, for example you feel like the only activity you can have is to hang out in between grocery stores :) But still it is okay.
BTW I moved from İstanbul (20 mil pop.) to here (10 k pop max.). Maybe that was what I had been looking for :)
Thanks for the video Mario!
Taler du dansk?
@@johanvandermeulen9696 ikke endnu
I'm American, and live in a very small town in Denmark, and I love it.
well give it a few years...
Yup few years you gonna regret it than 😅
Does Billund in Jutland fall in the category of boring small towns? They have a large expat community over there, mostly because of Lego.
Can't say, I only been to Billund for Legoland 😀 But overall, it's like always impossible to always generalize: some small towns in Denmark might be great too.
Hi @MarioScianHQ, I moved to Denmark for a PhD, so I am here for a set timeframe of 3 years.I would want to invest in ETFs for 10+ years. Would you still invest the same way knowing that you will likely move abroad? Can a portfolio be transferred, will there be taxes?
Yes. When you leave Denmark you need to pay taxes on your unrealized gains regardless. Just keep the portfolio small (in number of assets, not magnitudes) to avoid paying too many fees.
@@MarioScianHQ thanks a lot :)
How can you travel for a month or longer, we only have 25 days of vacation, does your company allow you to work remote?
I wrote a whole book about that - or you can check my course: marioscian.podia.com/travel
@@MarioScianHQ Thank you for your reply, you got yourself another happy reader/customer.
November, December and even major part of January are mostly dark in Ukraine too
AS well as cold months you mentioned . Ukraine is not a Scandinavia but... 😊😊
Of cause summers are hot.
Anyway thanks for your video. Interesting to listen about your experience and opinion ❤
Does he have any videos on how to get danish citizenship? Or at least permanent residency ? I’d be very interested in watching that :)
Yes - ua-cam.com/video/KeMo03DW-FQ/v-deo.html
@@MarioScianHQ Gracias, ahora lo veo ! :)
What is the name of the concept @ 3:15?
Janteloven
I love your channel. So informative.
Glad you like it!
To the last point, as an international, even moving from Aarhus to Copenhagen was a hugely positive thing for us…
Seriously considering moving to Aarhus after visiting a couple of times. Did you enjoy your time there?
@@jamesbanham2321 it was ok, but there are many reasons why we chose to move to CPH instead.
I know people who absolutely love Aarhus and cannot stand Copenhagen, so as much of a cliche this is, it really comes down to a personal preference.
I think you forget that copenhagen is beyound expensive compared to 90% of the rest of the country. We talk 10 to 1 when buying a house.
Sure
I wish to try and go live in Denmark, I'm Italian, I don't have a degree yet, I'd like to study there while learning the language, I am a bit scared cuz I don't know how doable that might be.
It’s better to come with a plan (job, studies) as it’s an expensive country to live in
Its not diffuclt . There are the same EU rules for all in EU. Its job-looking for job and studies.
Im pretty old. Try something when You are Young and strong - sex included.
If You move where else, You can me lonely. You something twice a week - not matter wjat. chess, football, badminton, tennis, ceramics a whatever.
Sorry, no mountains?? We have both the Sky-mountain, Ejer Baunehøj and latest, Møllehøj which have been found out to be the tallest, eh, field! But if put on top of each other, they would have been, impressive! And then they would at least become 500 m tall!
Denmark is very unfortunate in comparison to other Scandinavia. Norway has really superior nature and wonders to see, Sweden has also something to see (not like Norway, but still mountains, lakes, northern lights), Finland has beatiful lakes, forests and saunas. And of course, all three mentioned countries have snow at winter - you can go skiing, sledging, skating, tubing… Denmark is flat, sea is cold, winter is rainy and the weather mostly sucks. And danish people are very narcisstic and autistisk antisocial. Unfortunately I live in Danmark and Looking forward to moving out. Young people start drinking alcohol from the age of 15. And 80% of the population suffers from depression, anxiety and stress. And if you lose a job or have an economic crisis, you become isolated. The system does not help and you should be lucky if you have a good family or friends who are willing to help you. All in all, the whole culture is narcistic. As soon as you become seriously ill and are in a relationship. Don't expect the relationship to last long.
It appears you don't like Denmark indeed, I disagree but thank you for sharing your views
I agree I only lasted 6 months in danmark, move elsewhere then good advice :D
Sorry you had a bad time. :) hope you find your place somwhere els :) i dont meet mutch of what you are describing. But like any contry on the planet Denmark also have bad apples :) shame its all you saw.
Everything you said is so true wow!!
Hvis du er utilfreds så rejs tilbage til Iran!
Yo me acabo de mudar desde Argentina y elegí Odense para empezar, a fin de reducir un poco los costos que implica aterrizar en Dinamarca viniendo de paises devaluados. Sobre lo ultimo que comentas respecto a ciudades pequeñas me gustaria agregar que se reducen mucho las opciones laborales que no requieren idioma danes, es algo que no esperaba y me esta dando complicaciones.
Espero que en tu canal esten permitidos los comentarios en español jajaja. Abrazo!
Si por supuesto !
Sigue comentando, te escuchamos! Saludos
?Porqué no quiere aprender il danés?
Lived in Copenhagen from 2006-2009 and I totally agree with you especially the part about making friends..
I searched up "Moving to Denmark" and this was the first result
I'm from the north of Italy, and I'll be studying in Odense for a master's degree. I'm thinking of moving there and all the points you've made, expect for the "making friends" part, are pretty okay with me. I hope that my "italianness" won't annoy Danes too much😂
Se è fra norte d'Italia forse è un descendente dei Longobardi.
Come sta procedendo?
Many thanks for this information, very useful.
I much prefer tropical countries. Better weather and people are so open & friendly. It’s just a very different energy I much prefer, outward happier people.
I personally admire and respect the Scandinavian Nordic countries because they use those high taxes to reinvest back into their own native population and it shows. The Danish reinvestments in their Danish people are paying dividends allowing Denmark to compete on a global level as a powerhouse while having a phenomenal culture. The Scandinavian Nordic people are reserved until they become a true friend. Latin Americas(Latinos) don't have a great reputation in the USA nor in Europe so just continue to be a genuine kind trustworthy person and you will eventually make authentic relationships. I know immigration is a sensitive topic in Denmark currently and it's because Denmark and the Scandinavian Nordic countries are ranked at the top as great societies currently. In reverse, the Latin America countries( along with the African countries, south Asian (and most Asian countries), Caribbean island nations, , Middle Eastern countries, Pacific island nations)
are still developing countries. Places like NYC and London are in super wealthy Western countries and in capitalistic economics with safety nets. Even though the UK and the USA are wealthier economies they are struggling with certain issues like immigration and focusing on their own native population as well instead of unimportant issues.
Every year those Scandinavian Nordic countries are always ranked at the top whereas places like Latin American countries clearly are not.
I was born in Denmark, and I would like to start a new life and move to other country that has more warm weather and where people are less introverted so I would be able to talk to new people and make friends. I have no friends here in Denmark.
Good luck!
Well... I live in a "small town" (on Fyn). And there's plenty to do. Concerts every day. Bars are open every day. There are musuems. Night clubs are open wednesday - sunday. A cinema. We basically have most of what Copenhagen also has to offer - but we have a dolphin 😉
Sounds good for you! 😀
To be honest, what country has small towns that aren't a bit boring?
Southern Europe has plenty of charming small towns that are great to live in - have relatives there
Colombia:D
@@MarioScianHQ So does denmark, I wonder what singular small town you visited and made this broad universal generalisation based on. Maybe you should explain what sets small towns apart in your pocket of the world, to these boring ones in Denmark.
This is islands Brygge 🤓
I live in the Individual tall building behind you on the roof on J. C.
haha exactly IB indeed, nice you live here too!
@@MarioScianHQ I like your material - very valuable as it explains Denmark and the society with solid examples. Highly recommend for new comer, and foreigner (like myself).
i am here for an year now, i failed to adapt to the environment here. 😭😭. i am not doing well in the studies.
Keep it up!
Higher education is really hard work.
Please know that it's normal to feel that you could do it better - no matter how hard you study.
if someone wonder how to talk danish or learn some danish just talk to me i live in denmark
I might take you up on that! I started learning a little bit of danish from duolingo about 2 months ago and I would love to have someone to practise it with. How do I reach out to you?
@@scarhead427 Of which nationality are you? I am Dutchman and I learned Danish by myself by Langenscheidt, a German learning method. I can read and speak Danish but understanding is difficult. Jeg forstaa vanseligt. Hilsner fra Holland.
But if you get Danish friends (real ones) You have them for life
If it's boring in a small town, then it's YOU who are boring...some people just don't get it!
Lots of things you don't understand, perhaps this is really not the place for you!
haha I can absolutely tell you 100% that small town Denmark is really not the place for me - and for anyone who is similar to me
@@MarioScianHQboredom is all in the mind. It’s about changing your attitude towards the thing that bores you which takes imagination.
These are 6 reasons why I'm going to Denmark
Darknes is great. you can sleep in the train to your job. i have 1.2 hours to job.I love this time.
Well about the alcohol, don't forget we danish was Vikings, its in our genes.
If you pour dye in the one end of our kidneys, there will come springwater out of the other end
Where are you from? I loved this video. I am currently in the US but I want to end up in Europe so I am looking for options. I am Colombian and this video is making me very conscious of many things thank you!
I'm from Argentina glad you like my channel!
Please one video on hospitality sector in denmark and where we can find cheap room for rent
Spoiler alert: it’s very hard to find cheap accommodations
With government dickhead taxing landlords more there will be less rentals in Denmark
Glamping could be something for you.
Glamping means glamorous camping - so glamping is luxury camping.
Number one: If you dont have money for a 3 room appartment in the bigger expensive new Copenhagen( where everybody lives), you will hafe to stay silent for the rest of your days. The small new appartments dont have any sound-proofment, so you can hear each other chewing food and wipe yourself with toiletpaper. Even though thats illegal ( all over the world for new buildings) the "non- corrupt" county and state of Denmark covers it up, because big builders is big cash for the state. And the renters help the state cover this fact up, by keeping silent about the problem of big builders saving money on soundproofing, ore blaming it on the weak/ where you can wash yourself of by lashing on to some common predujice.
I agree it's a pain not to have soundproofing
3rd and 6th Point are so true! Enjoy the vacation in a warmer place!
Dark? Well you ain’t seen nothing yet.. Go to northern part of Sweden, Norway, Finland; then Denmark would feel like Mediterranean Sea. But there are mountains in Norway and Sweden.
I went to Iceland, north Finland, etc. :)
Denmark is where Lego is made.
And try the Danish pastime, Riding a Bike! Then you will find out that Denmark isn't at all Flat but as a fact, very Bumpy!
it's fine enough that you say that you shouldn't move to the small towns, you should move to the big cities, yes, that's fine enough, but all of a sudden there are no more apartments or houses in the big cities, what do you do then you have to also be room for the young people who have to stand there and they moved to the big cities to study and then when they have finished studying they moved out into the small communities again because you don't want to live with four children then in your 60s m² 121 two-room apartment or a three-room apartment they don't want to go out and have some air so that the children can run around and play without it. Without them, they can't, without being driven down crazy foreign countries and the new generations or new immigrants from abroad, they have to move to where the jobs are and if they are in the small towns in West Jutland, South Denmark or or in North Jutland, then they have to move there, but you shouldn't tell them to move to the big cities, they can, but if they buy an apartment there, the price is so high that they both have to work before they have the rent and they can have a decent life without them missing anything on the prices in the big cities two like Aarhus or Copenhagen Aarhus they are Sten very much is in recent years because there are so many people in the different places so it is better to move out to one of the small towns 5000 years ago, only Aalborg, Aalborg, Aarhus, Esbjerg, Odense, Copenhagen are left, then the small towns are gone, there is no one, nothing there, so what, then it is a new problem, if any of the small towns have survived, where are the farmers going to go? drive there and what time do they have to drive there? Who lives in the countryside today just skip to a bigger city to shop, they also have a claim that there is some life out in the small towns and there is a grocer or a bro or yes i said a but shop or a Art where they can buy groceries in the other necessary with all the small villages that are around the country and not just like you think you make me so excited by saying such nonsense there it doesn't hold anywhere what you say don't do it make a new video then you say you were wrong because you really are you are very wrong and I really mean that you are and if you ask any of them who live outside the small communities, they think the same and there is the same team few get from the town's small shop that survives the farewell shop is not there then they have no unity and then they have to drive incredibly far to buy some of them may have to drive 100 km to shop if now it is not a 00.59 shop in their small community such as churches and to school, then they have to drive very far both to pick up the children and to pick up the grocery items or the items in the nearest store and the nearest store in the nearest one might have lied 100 km away or there around 2000 km away, it's not very smart, you can also see that, otherwise you have to have another place at the other end of Denmark, so you can change it don't have any time. ( places to go ) in Denmark 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
Sure good point thanks for sharing
Jantelov has nothing to do with ambition levels, it has something to do with how you conduct yourself. Basically just an unwritten law of behaving properly, no matter who or where you are in life. Homeless or billionaire. Denmark is in fact a highly innovative country with a lot of very ambitious people that tend to put the tiny country on the world map quite regularly, I think you completely misunderstood the premise, rather it should be if you can't keep your ego in check, Denmark is not the place for you, for you will be remove from your self proclaimed pedestal and high perch.
Sure
@@MarioScianHQ I'd just prefer people to be thorough when they condemn something. Instead of passing their own narrow minded perceptions off as facts. But you do you.
I love Denmark and if it’s that bad just go back to your native country! Me encanta Dinamarca. Me han tratado súper bien allá y mejor que todos los países de Suramérica que he visitado incluyendo en el que nací!
I love Denmark too (see all my videos), but I think that for specific people other countries will be better.
Don't forget to mention the mass bureaucracy and mass surveillance that Denmark has. The government tracks and controls everything you do in relation to what income you get, how you spend your money, and where you spend it. Also, because the taxes are so insanely high, you end up getting some form of subsidies from the government, even if you have a normal paying job, which means your economy at all times will be depended on the government in some form, which means more government control. So keep that in mind, because that's a very big con of living in Denmark. I would not recommend moving to Denmark for this reason.
It's hard to escape government surveillance anywhere these days 😉
Can you mention a single modern country where that isn't the case?
@@somerandomguy4240 what exactly? The government makes you dependent on them, do you understand that?
@@sonyastefanova5785 Huh? You're not exactly making a lot of sense there. What are you on about?
@@somerandomguy4240 if you go back and read the above post under which you comment, you might get what I'm talking about.
Sounds lik britain
It's colder here
I am born in Denmark and live in Odense, Denmark, we need a revolution to change this egalitarian high taxed hell. There is a reason why we can't have friends, we work the whole day to pay those taxes, so we end up being socially atomized. There is this constant low grade poverty where you just get by and survive but you never get rich or thrive despite making a decent income. We drink to escape same as the North Koreans who also have a hefty drinking culture. The most happy country in the world my ass. we were also for many years the highest consumers of anti depressants. Danes say they are happy when they have food on the table and are not about to commit suicide.
That's a bit too harsh of an assessment
I’ll swap you. You come to the UK and see the way the government and services are dysfunctional, taxes are squandered and the general population are not happy at all.
When you speak english fast it sounds like you are talking in spanish like el professor hahaha
It’s hard for me to speak slower but I’m trying !
@@MarioScianHQ it is totally fine my brother
Been in Denmark 10 years. Very difficult to get jobs , or to escape the social net trap. 3 years abroad we both have jobs , very good jobs, great advancement possibilities, far freer , own our own new car , getting the feeling that we progress beyond what Denmark offered :the comfy life of a pet…
I’m glad things worked out for you
Thank you, now I understand why out of all the countries I've lived Denmark was the only one that got me exited to leave 😅
haha so you're not the right person for the place
No one follows the jantelov word by word.
Yeah but they’re quite embedded in society
You have to have some viking in you to survive here ;)
Los Incas descenden de los Vikingos. -ink-, -ing, quire decir un lazo de familla.
Spot on!!
Thanks millions from someone who left ages ago!!
@WhatsApp±𝟷𝟹6𝟶𝟾𝟸𝟸𝟽2𝟸𝟶 Need no insight on Denmark. Know far too well how that place "work", for who it "works" and, for who it certainly doesn't work.
The corruption there is absolute,
The legal system is completely destroyed or, just not existing,
The so-called "social welfare" in the place, is run by stolen money - stolen from the people!
Child-sex slavery still seem to be one of the main sources of income...several "high-profile" traffickers in place...
I could continue...😪
@@Jetmab04 What on earth are you talking about? Money stolen from the people? No legal system? "Corruption is absolute" (Denmark is officially ranked as one of the least corrupt countries in the world) and child sex slavery a main source of income?!? I beg your pardon, your claims (especially the last one) are completely insane and you have been reported.
@@teebodk3917 Teebo... Regarding your child-sex-trafficking all over our planet, sadly your words here doesn't match my thousands of documents prooving this and, when/if you look through all the reports from the EU since 2009, sex-slavery inside DK, have sadly given DK many a place on "top" within the EU for exactly that..
Maybe this is the main reason, I keep being told to be happy I managed to get out.. I am Teebo but, I'm happy in a very, very sad way... Personally having lost beloved people to exactly this - within Denmark, as well as having tape recordings from the place, with direct treats on exactly this as well 😰
And finally regarding your statistics: They do NOT match anything, just close to reality so yes, somewhere DK might come out as the least corrupt... What does that make all the other corrupt countries?? 😢
Colonial DK never stopped Teebo! Neither did all the other sad Colonials.. only "change" is, you've all become a bit better hiding it 😢
PS Teebo:
Regarding your "legal" system: The lack of a real legal system in Denmark is known worldwide and, has been mentioned in several countries over the past 10 - 15 years and regarding the Danish state stealing from it's own citizens likewise.
We are many Danes living abroad, who have had stolen everything during the same years... This being pensions, houses, savings, personal belongings and not least, ALL the Danes living abroad, who suddenly completely vanished from the surface of our planet. One wonder if this could be closely related to the innocent people now crushed in waste incinerators in Greenland!?
The Danske Bank "crisis" - what was it her name was - the person who took all the blame for that? Brita right!?
The 100% bankrupt of your country back in 2007? Exactly how many Danes around the world (including DK) have lost their lives due to "mental illness"??
Dear Teebo, no matter how many times you report me (you're very welcome) I have proof - more than 500.000 original documents, 26 beloved people of me have lost everything - the majority killed and last... The world have seen this type of "War" from Denmark before - many times 😢
Please look inwards and at least, face your (our) own History!
Your changer at me, could that have to do with the fact, this doesn't have anything at all to do with either you nor I but, with a horrible Government (part of the even worse W. É. F.) who clearly want to destroy us all!?
Denmark is a little place - hence not that difficult to research - we have it all dear Teebo, including the comments from each and every country Dennark ever dealt with!
So, so sad - Rob, rape, torture, kill is very obviously still Denmark's "way" 😢😢😢 so incredibly sad...
@@Jetmab04 Wtf? You are wrong.
Seriously?
Seriously what?
This is the bright side ! The migrants wherever they go must follow the rules of the country that host them! If you are not happy, why dont you go back to your so nice country you left. If your country is wonderful go home and leave those places for those who are respectful of the people who welcome them on their land.
Agree on the follow the rules piece - 100%. But you sounds angry here 😂
@@MarioScianHQ Nobody sounds angry ! It's a fact !
it is a boring country.....I would rather live in Spain ;)
Spain is great
I had spend some of my vaccination in Sevilla (that is Southern Spain, Andalucía). I was able to blend in as being one of the locals. I speak Spanish (but I only know a few 1,000 Spanish words).
Learning and using the local's language makes life so much easier.
The Danes have a excluding and closed culture...I am married to a Danish woman and have been living here for 40 years now. You will end up with a severe depression. And they are talking about free healthcare and a lot of benefits (Wow, hurrrray...), well.....if those benefits were not possible here, who would be stupid enough to even live here????
As a Dane I so agree with Marco Dont move to Denmark to become rich our taxes will take your mony and give it to the less rich people. Yes you will have to pay for your neighbors children. And thats a good thing !!!
"If you earn to much you will be pushed down to earth"
NOT TRUE.... We like success and we celabrate it, and the "Jantelov" is not about bashing successful people. Its about bashing those who think they are entitled or above others when they are not.. It a code of cunduct that we enforce. If you are successful, dont be a smartass about it, and dont look down on others. It´s not polite... Have you ever been standing i line in the supermarked, and this entitled asshole thinks he can just jump the line, like he owns the joint? THAT is were jantelov takes effect
I think it’s more subtle that that
@@MarioScianHQ Well your perception is completely wrong, ive read through a majority of your comments on this video, you base some of these facts on wrong perceptions. Please look it up again, Jantelov is really about how your coduct yourself, not whether you are succesful or not. Its about staying grounded and remember,ing you are not worth more than any other human being. Period. I think as a foreigner that wishes to advice people, you ought to be thorough and actually understand what you are talking about. Instead of making simplistic subjective statements and present them as fact.
"Hard to make friends" not really, you'll need to learn our language so we won't treat you like a long term tourist.
I can speak Danish fluently (though with a heavy accent). In all cases, for the same amount of effort it's much harder to make friends here than in other places.
@@MarioScianHQ Maybe for you. Everyone's different.
Wouldn't needing to learn a relatively difficult and uncommon language in order to make friends support the claim that it's "hard to make friends?"
I speak fluent danish even got my license here it's hard to get friends in Denmark and i wouldn't recommend anyone to live here it's depressing
@@jasperpierre6419As depressing as the UK? Probably not.
POV: ur in Denmark :me:😢😢😢😢😢😢😫😫😫😫😭😭😭😭😭 (btw I live in Denmark)
Who wants to live in dk high paid taxes and cold hard to get friends
Fair
Denmark is not Siberia in the Seventies I live for 11 years I had a great time and good memories.
Denmark is great yes
Cars tax to much
Don't use a car