Wow, I’ve been waiting for this video on the ProArt P16! It was fantastic to see such in-depth information and hear your genuine thoughts. You always manage to cover every detail that matters. Thank you for taking the time to create this!
This is easily my favorite laptop segment and I love to see Lenovo and Asus gunning for the MBP16 users and delivering solid alternatives. From the IdeaPad 5i Pro to the Yoga Pro 9i and the G16 and P16 now. So many good options at so many price points.
Bought the AMD Zephyrus G16 with the HX 370 and 4070 and I've had it for a few weeks now. This video literally showcases what that laptop is capable of (basically same chassis, specs) No heat or fan noise in light tasks, acceptable heat during gaming, and great battery life but I found that was the only when there is no accessories plugged into the laptop (USB mice, external storage etc.). The main difference is the 240hz 2k+ OLED display on the Zephyrus G16 I just would rather have the higher refresh rate than a 4k 60hz panel and im pretty sure Asus could've gotten a 4k 120hz for the pro art.
Thank you very much @justjosh for this review. One thing I might add is that the comparison between the ProArt P16 and the MBP M3 Max seems a bit unfair, I would rather compare it with the M3 Pro instead. The price of the M3 Max is a totally diffferent league. Here in Australia, both ProArt P16 and M3 Pro are about 4.5-4.7k, while the M3 Max is at least at 5.8k... Also, unlike many other channels, yours seems unbiased and isn't becoming a commercial/ad plateform for the brands. You guys wait to release your reviews and perform your own test. Keep up with the good job. Cheers
I recently upgraded from a 2019 16" mbp to a P16. My use cases are coding and photo editing. The displays refresh rate doesn't bother me at all when doing these tasks. All my LG monitors are 60hz anyway. The proart is a fantastic device to edit photos on with its powerful gpu making swift work of exporting or adjusting background blur. I did have to adjust my workflow for coding as I've been using a mac for 15 years. WSL was a saving grace. The only disappointing part of this laptop is the trackpad. Apple has spoiled me for too long.
Refresh rate doesn`t bother you because you never tried better. The only reason. If you tried, you`d never go back to 60. Especially at this price point.
@@D1sconnect that’s not entirely true. My tv and work laptop are 120hz. I’m not saying the higher refresh rate screens don’t have an advantage but for coding or adjusting static photos, it doesn’t bother me that it’s 60hz. You’re right about price point though. I spent $3700 and it could have come with a higher refresh panel.
@@D1sconnect I didn’t like the look of the laptop. I wanted a sleek, not in your face design. One thing I couldn’t figure out at the time was if the g16’s screen was as accurate as the p16’s. That was more important than the frequency.
The 60hz, low brightness and extremely wobbly screen is a bit too much at that price point (3000 eur in Europe for the 32 GB / 1TB one, by the way). And feels like paying extra for gimmicks like the touchscreen and the touchpad. I think I´ll wait until the Ryzen pro business laptops in October to see if there is a better deal for programmers with no dGPU.
Josh said "Tech Family", I feel just missed that time, when I first found this channel. Have been watching Just Josh, since 2020 and now as it's so much improved, It even make more enjoyable
I'm not sure why having OLED they didn't drive it to 120Hz. Though, to be fair, not seeing a reason to have an artificial high refresh rate on a professional laptop. MacBooks technically have 120Hz but their GtG speed is abysmal. They traded off speed to IPS color accuracy, that's understandable. Here? It's already OLED, already on high power consumption and burn-in, why not just show it to work on 120Hz.
Asus's pricing is ridiculous in SE Asia, this laptop and the G16 are twice of the Yoga Pro 9i. Making it terrible value purchases and make the Mackbook Pro blush
Lenovo and ASUS are kinda slow with new releases here. We can only get 32GB in the 9i. And that's a Best Buy exclusive, other retailers (including directly from Lenovo) only have 16GB. I'm sure we will get a 64GB version in the future, just in time for Dell to have RTX 5000 laptops out.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 quite a bummer. But I hope you guys get more models with 64GB of rams soon, considering everything here from now will most likely be soldered on.
its designed for photography, video editing and art, and its completely acceptable for those target demographics. Video editing is usually done below 60fps
@Redplane70 I am well aware of those, but it's still not relevant to the fact that people justify 60hz panels on expensive machines like this just because they are made for "creators." I'm pretty sure high refresh rates aren't limited to gaming laptops as a lot of people like to throw around.
Plz review the proart next to its Zephyrus brother, i really am struggling between those two devices since i programm and do the usual on the day. But love to play games when im at my buddys place. Awesome Video though!
The 2025 Zen 5 equipped Yoga 9 Pro 16 should hopefully combine the best of both the Pro Art 16 and the G16: a 3.2K mini LED 120hz 600nit screen, similar thermals & battery life, performance on a par at least. Whether it will be more compact & lighter than the current version however remains to be seen. Certainly Lenovo need to update the designs of all their Yoga laptops as they’re beginning to look very dated and, despite an ever bigger & better choice of internals, all exactly the same (mostly grey) laptop design on the outside.
lol funny channel. Some of his content is so good and useful. But then some of it is just rambling. He’s funny though so there’s always gems hidden within the rants.
I love my yoga slim 7x snapdragon, fairly fast, 10 hr battery for my workflow, very quiet, 3 lbs, 2 issues, sql server and python in visual studio ide not supported yet.
i am willing to have a 16 inch laptop with NO dedicated graphics and a good battery life (and portability), i honestly just want a 13 inch laptop in an 16 inch body it seems...
This feels like 1 iteration away from being on equal footing with the Macbook: - A refreshed Ryzen AI processor with even less power draw should make the battery life pretty much on par - A somewhat brighter and (maybe) higher refresh rate screen (though I personally don't mind the 60hz) - I really don't understand what's stopping these manufacturers from having a haptic touchpad, best in class speakers and webcam I'm only on Apple because sadly I can't get that good of an experience with the hardware anywhere else. I'd wish to move because I honestly hate the direction Apple is going in as a company. Neither Microsoft is good - but at least I can debloat the Windows. If this was 95% percent of the Macbook at 75% percent of the price it would be an instant buy. This is clearly a good direction regarding hardware and I'm very excited to see what other innovations will be brought in a future generation. Will follow the ProArt lineup closely.
Interestingly, here in Europe / DE the prices are very different: I can get a decent MacBook Pro 16 (with M3 Pro, 1TB SSD) for ~1700 EUR (but only 8GB RAM), but the ProArt 16 with Ryzen AI 9 starts at 2400 EUR! Sadly, such MBP offers only apply to the 8GB RAM versions, 16 GB is about the same price as the ProArt. Crazy! I'm shopping for a silent laptop that is capable of occasional video editing (Davinci, Insta360 Studio). Recommendations welcome :-)
Finally, the review the whole world has been waiting for. Very fair review. I have the 4070 model and love it. The amazing part of this machine it how thin and portable it is at this power level. Also, the battery life is outstanding. You can change the sensitivity of the trackpad to prevent mistakes. I returned my 4060 for the 4070 and had misclicks but not on the 4070 one. So it may depend on the machine or set trackpad to low sensitivity.
Actually I have the opposite experience. My P16 with 4070 had erratic/defective track pad. I was going to exchange it but the 4060 was cheaper with 10% hit on GPU performance so went with it instead. This one has no issues with track pad. 4060 has faster clockspeed so hoping it doesn't cause overheating vs 4070
same question here... everything about screen scares me in P16... choosing between P16 and Yoga Pro 9i (both 4070, both 64), looks like P16 is 1) wobbly, 2) not bright enough, 3) very glossy, 4) 60hz, 50) and i prefer miniLED over OLED because they cant burn screen. but i dont know, why i still cant choose) on macbook m1 max atm also scared about trackpads on this laptops
@@Promikes I currently use Asus Zenbook with OLED, its more than a year and i personally cant see any burnin on it. I already pulled trigger on P16, coming in a few days.
Thank you for your review, i think you should mention there's no number pad. That's the only reason stopping me from buying it. If they would just bring it back then it would be so awesome laptop
So, basically, for a developer, a 16-inch laptop within a reasonable price (not a MacBook Pro 16) is either the P16 or the Yoga Pro 9i. If only the P16 had a higher brightness, I wouldn’t hesitate about which one to buy. Anyone can help me here? 😅 I should just make a vote 😂
Aaaand I'll be holding out another 6 months for the Strix Halo refresh. Same CPU efficiency but the GPU will be built-into the APU (yes it should match a RTX 4070 Mobile at 120W TDP fueled by up to 16GB of LPDDR5X-8533 "system VRAM" on a 256-bit bus). Hopefully the dGPUless SKU will have a 99.9Wh battery 🙏
Up to 16GB ? I surely hope not. It should be starting from 24 GB and go up to 192 or 256 GB. With a beefy integrated GPU, 16 GB of total RAM is basically 8-12 GB for system / CPU and 4-8 GB for video, which is absolutely a waste of a chip, if you're going to bottleneck it so hard with the non-upgradeable RAM.
@@Winnetou17 I have 32 gigs of system RAM in my TUF A16 so the Radeon 680M technically could use 16 gigs even though it will only ever touch 4GB in practicality due to the passable performance and bandwidth limited 75 GB/s. LPDDR5X-8533 MT/s on a quad channel 256-bit memory bus nets 3.5x the bandwidth allowing for at least 16GB to be used effectively as VRAM. Also Windows dynamically allocates up to half the system memory to the iGPU. Some SKUs with Strix Halo will surely have 64GB for $2,000 or even 96/128GB for $3,000+ so up to 32GB, 48GB, or 64GB respectively would be usable by the "integrated 4070 Mobile".
@@Winnetou17 Why would it be a waste if such a powerful iGPU needs it to run ray-tracing in games at QHD 120hz or AI models or other professional editing-rendering-data heavy workloads? I have 32 gigs of system RAM in my TUF A16 so the Radeon 680M technically could use 16 gigs even though it will only ever touch 4GB in practicality due to the passable performance and bandwidth limited 75 GB/s. Meanwhile LPDDR5X-8533 MT/s on a quad channel 256-bit memory bus nets 266 GB/s or 3.5x the bandwidth which allows at least 16GB to be used effectively as VRAM. Some SKUs with Strix Halo will surely have 64GB for $2,000 or even 96/128GB for $3,000+ so up to 32GB, 48GB, or 64GB respectively via Windows Dynamic Memory Allocation could be leveraged by the "integrated 4070 Mobile". Hopefully the RAM can be upgraded with higher capacity LPCAMM2 modules, but I haven't heard any confirmation that's the case yet.
@@handlemonium Well, I said already why. You will NOT be able to run ray tracing at 120 FPS and all the rest, if the iGPU is limited to 4 GB of VRAM. How do you think a 4070 would work if it had only 4 GB of VRAM ? Ok, let's say it's not 4 GB, but 8 GB of VRAM. Now it gets passable. But, then the rest of the system, Windows + the rest has only 8 GB of RAM. Do you think that would be enough ? For some games, especially older ones, if you have nothing else opened, it would. Newer, bigger games... nope. Having a Chrome browser opened to listen to a podcast, well, sucks to be you. Some proffesional program(s) might not even be close to be usable with only 8 GB of RAM. Not to mention Windows bloat. So, yeah, having Strix Halo with a total of 16 GB of RAM or lower would be a waste. 32 GB or more ... much better. Even only 24 GB it should be pretty good for games.
Josh, your graphics and tables are excellent and I know you put a lot of time into creating them. However you are not leaving them on the screen for nearly engough time for the viewers to absorb and comprehend them. Constantly pausing and backing up the video does not make for a pleasant or coherent experience for the viewer. Don't allow your good efforts to go to waste: Leave the graphs on the screen for a longer time. Please accept this suggestion in the spirit with which it was inteded.
I got a macbook pro 14 this year and I am saving up to buy a windows machine in a year or two and this looks promising. Might be a good purchase for me if they make a 120 hz one.
Ultimately what is customer support and repair like? No matter how awesome a product is, when it becomes a nightmare getting help when the product breaks, it diminishes any performance qualities the device has.
I would immediately buy a ProArt, but the ansi keyboard is a dealbreaker for me. Ansi layout may be the default in the US but here in Europe its ISO what everyone is used to. I do not understand why Asus is getting this wrong.
What do you think of the MSI AI Evo 16 ? I’ve been using one since January and it’s a great 16 inch laptop for the price , it can handle gaming (at moderate settings ) as well as editing my 4K footage in Davinci resolve albeit not quite as smooth as my MacBook Pro. But again , such great value.
If they would just put a better screen and touchpad and spec it up in graphics, it would be the perfect windows laptop. Graphics card options and screen are worse than the G16 just so Asus doesn't cannibalize on that line of laptops, which is a shame. I hope companies just stop segmenting their own product lines and just release one high end option that is amazing for every task. Lenovo does the same thing with their Legion and Yoga Pro lines and it's frustrating.
Hi! I'm looking for a laptop for studying computer science. I prefer a lightweight, portable model without a dedicated GPU, as I'll primarily be using it at university. And also I would appreciate a good keyboard and high-quality screen. I've identified four laptops that stand out within my budget. Assuming they are all on sale in my country and prices are all the same (+/- 80 USD) ,which one is the best choice? 1- Lenovo Yoga 7 2-in-1 (14' ) with Ryzen 8840HS, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 60 Hz WUXGA OLED Display 2- Huawei Matebook 14 with Ultra 7 155H, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 120 Hz 2.8K OLED Display 3- ASUS Zenbook 14 with Ultra 7 155H, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 60 Hz WUXGA OLED Display 4- ASUS Vivobook S15 with Ryzen 8845HS, 32 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, 120 Hz 2.8K OLED Display
Would have been nice to see this laptop as it is but with some changes: 1. 3:2 aspect ratio. 2. Try out some ergonomic keyboard design and push the keyboard closer to the user and change the trackpad to be in between the keyboard (also slope the end for comfort). 3. Just add a matte filter to set on top of the display as accessory. 4. Add 120/144hz. 5. Skip nonsense like "dial". Be bold and skip Webcam, loudspeakers, mic (or at least make them able to switch off mechanicalyy); integrate an fitting accessory dock at the base that has loudspeaker, mic, cam, Xtra battery/ maybe some ports. 6. Swappable batteries, rams and whatnot. 7. Make it stand dust and water. 8. Higher and lower nits for in the dark and out in sunshine. Basically build a laptop that's ergonomic, productive, powerful, build quality (not look), that's last long, is somewhat modular but keeps the laptop for what's it was meant for. The rest could go in to a big dock with its own battery attached to the base. Just want someone to disrupt this shitty laptop market that is just a bad blend of all...
"2. [...] and change the trackpad to be in between the keyboard" In between the keyboard and what ? I assume you didn't actually meant to have the trackpad between keys. 5. webcam at the base is absolutely terrible And... yeah, I think you'll need to wait for Framework to do most of what you ask. It will take some time. And it will be more expensive (regardless if it's Framework or ASUS or anybody else). And my gut feeling tells me it's going to be quite low volume sales.
@@Winnetou17 yes I meant "trackpad" in between. I want split keyboard. Again, don't think loudspeaker, mic, cam should be a given in a laptop design. Can easily be an accessory at base. Nothing is impossible. And everyone has a smartphone that already does all that as well; I just want the computer to be a computer.
Asus Did released Pro Art Laptop which has traditional wheel dial, and it was just works nicer than this one 😅 Yeah, it was "Pro Art Studio book" though
Can you please write the top 5 laptops in your opinion? Also can you mention top 5 touch screen and or foldable portable laptops? Laptop searching has been interesting with three to five versions of same model by each manufacturer. Thank you.
For the most part, I think the higher dense display isn't really a reason to buy a windows laptop.. I have a pc that 2560 by 1600.. And I don't use it at 125%.. I scale it up to 150%. Unless I am missing something, I think it's almost same thing..
Can you share more thoughts on battery life comparison between G16 and P16? Both with AMD, P16 with more pixels to push... both running at 60Hz on battery mode (right?) - P16 had 20% more batter after 4 hours?? Thanks for any feedback - and great video (again)!
Good video. Though you should have mentioned that Core 200 laptops are coming out later this year, maybe next month already. Preliminary tests show better watt/power ratio than anything AMD and maybe even Qalcom. I'm waiting to see what drops then
@@JustJoshTech ahh. I've been looking more into thin performance laptops with big screen/high resolution and decent multi core performance. That should work for me
It can’t make full use of the external gpu when unplugged, and if it could battery life would be like an hour. MacBook pros are the only things that can run at full power unplugged and without sounding like a jet engine. Until something else can reach that level of performance and efficiency, it’s not really in competition
After watching this review and the comparisons to other laptops, now more than ever it is clear, the G16 with a 4080 is the best all round portable laptop for creatives/gamers
A question: do the laptop US prices you mention include taxes? For years I was wondering how come these things cost so much more in Europe than in the US, despite not being produced by American companies. Then I found out that in the US price tags often don't include the taxes in them. If these prices are before tax, I'd suggest that you mention how much it costs with tax in, let's say, your average (tax-wise) US state. Remember that many of your viewers don't live in the US :)
ProArt's keyboard with 1.7mm key travel is at least one, maybe two tiers above Macbook 16's. ProArt's OLED display is much better than Macbook's, as macbook's screen has terrible response time unlike OLED screens with virtually instantaneous response time. ProArt is significantly lighter (300grams). ProArt arguably has better speakers than Macbook 16, because Macbook's speakers, while technically very good, are terribly tuned (very bassy, makes things sound muffled). IMO, only things the macbook has advantage over the proart is the CPU and the webcam.
actually in 1:20 there in PWM seen... such a problem to use low hz PWMs in such premium devices, i dont understand manufacturers, that just about money they want to win
Why on earth do PC laptop makers still feel the need to make really good laptops and shove crappy touchpads in them? I literally do not understand why premium windows laptops do not all have haptic touchpads. Like seriously, Apple was doing this 8 years ago! Lenovo offers like two laptops with that option but those come with displays with horrible PWM flickering that is bad for your eyes or a FHD panel and are overpriced even when on sale, Dell has their XPS lineup which is super overpriced and has many issues including pricing, and finally MIcrosoft has started using them but their surface laptops come with ARM chips that simply cannot run a lot of games and apps. Why is it that only Apple seems to be the very basics right? Laptop build quality is superb with aluminum frames milled out of a single block of aluminum, screens are awesome, keyboards are great feeling with a standard layout, the laptop feels downright cold during normal usage and gets mildly warm when maxing out the cpu and gpu together, no fan noise at all, battery lasts more than a full day, and best of all the touchpad is fantastic. I find myself using it instead of a mouse sometimes by accident! Do PC laptop manufacturers think that people don't use these LAPtops on their laps??
@@JustJoshTech do you think the Mac will come with OLED and touchscreen? I hope it’s worth waiting. You talk about battery, life, and temperature and graphics and so much more.
In summary, if you need a good screen and still be as portable as possible, Galaxy Book Ultra is a better option. But I agree with your point: this division between Pros and Gamers manufacturers use is just stupid. Most people I know that uses this kind of laptop are both.
Would love to see a review of the lenovo thinkbook 16p gen 5 Very similar to the legion 7i but can be found for half the cost (on sale) , great competitor to lenovo own yoga pro 9i
i consider the first gen of snapdragon X Elite is already obsolete by the presence of amd strix point and intel lunar lake. qualcomm needs to launch the second gen asap
@@Arkan_Fadhila I barely think Snapdragon has the muscles to flex when AMD and Intel have planned upto the 5-7 upgrades in the pipeline. Maybe, X Elite could be good for smartphones as a chip, what do you think on that?
@@abc_cba i think qualcomm is also have plan for the upcoming X series, we just don't have any leaks about it. and no, there is no way you could fit X Elite inside smartphone. you only could fit it inside a tablet at best yet nobody is trying to do so. oryon cpu is coming to snapdragon 8 gen 4 so there is no need for X Elite in tablet/smartphone at the moment.
@@Arkan_FadhilaIt depends on what you do. AMD Strix Point is no risk to X Elite when you just want a notebook for non-performance tasks. Even for coding the X Elite is much more efficient. The battery life of Strix Point is not even close to it in such scenarios. However, the Lunar Lake could become a real problem for X Elite if it really consumed as less power as the X Elite for non-performance tasks while having a serious GPU at the same time. But we will have to wait for the first unbiased reviews. I would ditch my X Elite notebook for a Lunar Lake if it was as efficient as it allegedly is.
Gigabyte has failed in terms of marketing. Not sure why there are very few vids of the 2023 Aero 16 (BSF) from laptop reviewers on YT. I went from a Zephyrus G16 (very similar to this ProArt 16) to the Aero 16 because the Aero 16 is almost half the price (here in AU) and is just as premium as the ProArt 16 / G16...aside from the speakers, as they're very average.
Im looking to buy one this fall. If they release a version with the new AMD zen 5 I'm betting the battery would last quite a bit longer. Even still, I think the Intel version will be okay for me and I'll just try to get a GaN charger for work so I can leave my brick at home.
that 60hz low brightness screen kills it for me, I know it's a great laptop for many others but it just does not seem like a valid options for 2024 or almost 2025 where even phones offer a 120hz screen
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Wow, I’ve been waiting for this video on the ProArt P16! It was fantastic to see such in-depth information and hear your genuine thoughts. You always manage to cover every detail that matters. Thank you for taking the time to create this!
Glad I could help!
This is easily my favorite laptop segment and I love to see Lenovo and Asus gunning for the MBP16 users and delivering solid alternatives. From the IdeaPad 5i Pro to the Yoga Pro 9i and the G16 and P16 now. So many good options at so many price points.
Bought the AMD Zephyrus G16 with the HX 370 and 4070 and I've had it for a few weeks now. This video literally showcases what that laptop is capable of (basically same chassis, specs) No heat or fan noise in light tasks, acceptable heat during gaming, and great battery life but I found that was the only when there is no accessories plugged into the laptop (USB mice, external storage etc.). The main difference is the 240hz 2k+ OLED display on the Zephyrus G16 I just would rather have the higher refresh rate than a 4k 60hz panel and im pretty sure Asus could've gotten a 4k 120hz for the pro art.
Thank you very much @justjosh for this review. One thing I might add is that the comparison between the ProArt P16 and the MBP M3 Max seems a bit unfair, I would rather compare it with the M3 Pro instead. The price of the M3 Max is a totally diffferent league. Here in Australia, both ProArt P16 and M3 Pro are about 4.5-4.7k, while the M3 Max is at least at 5.8k...
Also, unlike many other channels, yours seems unbiased and isn't becoming a commercial/ad plateform for the brands. You guys wait to release your reviews and perform your own test.
Keep up with the good job. Cheers
i afraid that now there is no channels that are not a commercial/ad platform
I recently upgraded from a 2019 16" mbp to a P16. My use cases are coding and photo editing.
The displays refresh rate doesn't bother me at all when doing these tasks. All my LG monitors are 60hz anyway.
The proart is a fantastic device to edit photos on with its powerful gpu making swift work of exporting or adjusting background blur.
I did have to adjust my workflow for coding as I've been using a mac for 15 years. WSL was a saving grace.
The only disappointing part of this laptop is the trackpad. Apple has spoiled me for too long.
Refresh rate doesn`t bother you because you never tried better. The only reason.
If you tried, you`d never go back to 60. Especially at this price point.
@@D1sconnect that’s not entirely true. My tv and work laptop are 120hz. I’m not saying the higher refresh rate screens don’t have an advantage but for coding or adjusting static photos, it doesn’t bother me that it’s 60hz.
You’re right about price point though. I spent $3700 and it could have come with a higher refresh panel.
@@andrewapperley it just matters 🤷
Why didn't you buy at least g16 with better panel?
@@D1sconnect I didn’t like the look of the laptop. I wanted a sleek, not in your face design.
One thing I couldn’t figure out at the time was if the g16’s screen was as accurate as the p16’s. That was more important than the frequency.
The 60hz, low brightness and extremely wobbly screen is a bit too much at that price point (3000 eur in Europe for the 32 GB / 1TB one, by the way). And feels like paying extra for gimmicks like the touchscreen and the touchpad.
I think I´ll wait until the Ryzen pro business laptops in October to see if there is a better deal for programmers with no dGPU.
Crazy price with that screen...
Ya, that Ryzen pro is enough, and it may revive the Z16 line of lenovo thinkpad
CPU - good, Screen - bad. MBP is cheaper and has better screen... 5 years ago.
@@yorksosnov It also still has no Windows 5 years later.
Josh said "Tech Family", I feel just missed that time, when I first found this channel. Have been watching Just Josh, since 2020 and now as it's so much improved, It even make more enjoyable
I'm a simple person. I see a new review from Josh and I click.
Same
Now that’s funny!
If you have to click on the review, then you’re not simple
At this screen size (16") 1440p + 144hz may have been a better pick. User also enjoy that extra smooth experience when working.
I'm not sure why having OLED they didn't drive it to 120Hz. Though, to be fair, not seeing a reason to have an artificial high refresh rate on a professional laptop. MacBooks technically have 120Hz but their GtG speed is abysmal. They traded off speed to IPS color accuracy, that's understandable. Here? It's already OLED, already on high power consumption and burn-in, why not just show it to work on 120Hz.
@dmitryburlakov6920 I agree. Asus seems to be crippling their creator laptops...
Try G16, 1600p 240hz.
@@ahmetcemalyasar6975 G16 can't have more than 32 GB of RAM and has an annoying third fan. It is also much more expensive for the 32 GB of RAM option.
Asus's pricing is ridiculous in SE Asia, this laptop and the G16 are twice of the Yoga Pro 9i. Making it terrible value purchases and make the Mackbook Pro blush
It's weird given that they are a Taiwanese company...
@@houssamalucad753 I know it makes no sense to me considering its only Asus who has this bad pricing.
It's the same here in europe
I have no idea how the US market for laptops work, but in Singaproe Lenovo's Yoga Pro 9i can go up to 64GB of RAM.
Lenovo and ASUS are kinda slow with new releases here. We can only get 32GB in the 9i. And that's a Best Buy exclusive, other retailers (including directly from Lenovo) only have 16GB. I'm sure we will get a 64GB version in the future, just in time for Dell to have RTX 5000 laptops out.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 quite a bummer. But I hope you guys get more models with 64GB of rams soon, considering everything here from now will most likely be soldered on.
Awaiting your Lunar lake reviews!!
I'm just mad at the 60hz screen. That's unacceptable for a machine of that caliber.
its designed for photography, video editing and art, and its completely acceptable for those target demographics. Video editing is usually done below 60fps
@schizofennec so what's the excuse for the macbook pro, a professional grade machine, to have a 120hz display? Yeah, exactly what I thought.
@@nameless_stranger Are you ignoring the fact that the macbook pro has a lower resolution and isn't even OLED?
@Redplane70 I am well aware of those, but it's still not relevant to the fact that people justify 60hz panels on expensive machines like this just because they are made for "creators." I'm pretty sure high refresh rates aren't limited to gaming laptops as a lot of people like to throw around.
If you want the higher refresh rate just buy the new G16. Everything else other than the panel is the same between them anyways.
I don't think anyone else has a 4k 120hz display that supports "Touch input" yet.
Plz review the proart next to its Zephyrus brother, i really am struggling between those two devices since i programm and do the usual on the day. But love to play games when im at my buddys place.
Awesome Video though!
We are after Lunar Lake launch next week, it will be the week after. Sorry about the delay
Superb content, Josh! Very useful and engrossing to watch.
Glad you liked!
The 2025 Zen 5 equipped Yoga 9 Pro 16 should hopefully combine the best of both the Pro Art 16 and the G16: a 3.2K mini LED 120hz 600nit screen, similar thermals & battery life, performance on a par at least. Whether it will be more compact & lighter than the current version however remains to be seen. Certainly Lenovo need to update the designs of all their Yoga laptops as they’re beginning to look very dated and, despite an ever bigger & better choice of internals, all exactly the same (mostly grey) laptop design on the outside.
Huh??
Why are you trying to downgrade the yoga pro 9i's display bud?
It already has a better 3.2K , 165Hz , 1200 nits peak brightness display.
Hoping it will have the same brilliant screen just with the brilliant Zen 5 SoC as well. 😊
I love my pro dial on the studio book 16 13th hx and ada 3000. But that has a physical dial
cant compare to touch... touch = shit
It's like camera conspiracies -> the hunt for the perfect laptop contunues which doesn't exist.
lol funny channel. Some of his content is so good and useful. But then some of it is just rambling. He’s funny though so there’s always gems hidden within the rants.
It does and it's called the macbook pro
Except gaming there's not a single thing they don't nail down to utmost perfection .
Thanks a lot for the review.
I would be interesting to start adding customer support experience from users when recommending laptops.
I love my yoga slim 7x snapdragon, fairly fast, 10 hr battery for my workflow, very quiet, 3 lbs, 2 issues, sql server and python in visual studio ide not supported yet.
i am willing to have a 16 inch laptop with NO dedicated graphics and a good battery life (and portability), i honestly just want a 13 inch laptop in an 16 inch body it seems...
LG Gram?
Mac book air 15
@@monkas4345 Not a Windows laptop. Not everybody wants macOS. Try again.
Zenbook S 16’?
Framework 16 without the dedicated graphics card module. As a bonus it's serviceable and will last a long time.
would be nice to see a comparison with the MSI Ai studio E16 A1VX 16" 2-in-1 touch & flip with Ultra 7 155H and RTX4060, weighs 4.6lbs
As always great review 👍. Especially at the end that you compared it with two other good laptops
This feels like 1 iteration away from being on equal footing with the Macbook:
- A refreshed Ryzen AI processor with even less power draw should make the battery life pretty much on par
- A somewhat brighter and (maybe) higher refresh rate screen (though I personally don't mind the 60hz)
- I really don't understand what's stopping these manufacturers from having a haptic touchpad, best in class speakers and webcam
I'm only on Apple because sadly I can't get that good of an experience with the hardware anywhere else. I'd wish to move because I honestly hate the direction Apple is going in as a company. Neither Microsoft is good - but at least I can debloat the Windows.
If this was 95% percent of the Macbook at 75% percent of the price it would be an instant buy. This is clearly a good direction regarding hardware and I'm very excited to see what other innovations will be brought in a future generation. Will follow the ProArt lineup closely.
Interestingly, here in Europe / DE the prices are very different: I can get a decent MacBook Pro 16 (with M3 Pro, 1TB SSD) for ~1700 EUR (but only 8GB RAM), but the ProArt 16 with Ryzen AI 9 starts at 2400 EUR! Sadly, such MBP offers only apply to the 8GB RAM versions, 16 GB is about the same price as the ProArt. Crazy!
I'm shopping for a silent laptop that is capable of occasional video editing (Davinci, Insta360 Studio). Recommendations welcome :-)
Finally, the review the whole world has been waiting for. Very fair review. I have the 4070 model and love it. The amazing part of this machine it how thin and portable it is at this power level. Also, the battery life is outstanding. You can change the sensitivity of the trackpad to prevent mistakes. I returned my 4060 for the 4070 and had misclicks but not on the 4070 one. So it may depend on the machine or set trackpad to low sensitivity.
Thanks for the nice words. Interesting re trackpad, i'll try that
Actually I have the opposite experience. My P16 with 4070 had erratic/defective track pad. I was going to exchange it but the 4060 was cheaper with 10% hit on GPU performance so went with it instead. This one has no issues with track pad. 4060 has faster clockspeed so hoping it doesn't cause overheating vs 4070
How is the msi prestige 16 with 4k 120hz core ultra 9 processor and rtx 4060?
So… if i can get Yoga Pro 9i with 64GB of RAM it is prefered over ProArt P16 ?
Great video, thanks.
same question here... everything about screen scares me in P16... choosing between P16 and Yoga Pro 9i (both 4070, both 64), looks like P16 is 1) wobbly, 2) not bright enough, 3) very glossy, 4) 60hz, 50) and i prefer miniLED over OLED because they cant burn screen.
but i dont know, why i still cant choose) on macbook m1 max atm
also scared about trackpads on this laptops
@@Promikes I currently use Asus Zenbook with OLED, its more than a year and i personally cant see any burnin on it.
I already pulled trigger on P16, coming in a few days.
@@colouny gz, I think I will order it too
@@Promikes I watched this comparison, probably this was final factor to decide 😅
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watching this on my Proart P16. I could only get the 4070 with 32gb of ram instead of 64gb here in my country. Its performing really well so far.
nice review josh!
Thank you for your review, i think you should mention there's no number pad. That's the only reason stopping me from buying it. If they would just bring it back then it would be so awesome laptop
you should test how different laptop brands deal with OLED burn in (like how well they resist burn-in)
The Competition is real 🔥🔥🔥
So, basically, for a developer, a 16-inch laptop within a reasonable price (not a MacBook Pro 16) is either the P16 or the Yoga Pro 9i.
If only the P16 had a higher brightness, I wouldn’t hesitate about which one to buy.
Anyone can help me here? 😅
I should just make a vote 😂
Vote folks a) P16 or b) Yoga Pro 9i
Yoga ofc
Don't buy Asus, they have buggy drivers and software and much worse keyboard then Lenovo.
@thesun___ The better looks and weight, the better AMD processor, 4K OLED, 64GB option-if it were on sale, it would be useful.
Hopefully the Yoga will have a zen 5 version soon
I think back io design should be a standard by now, specially for professional oriented products.
Aaaand I'll be holding out another 6 months for the Strix Halo refresh.
Same CPU efficiency but the GPU will be built-into the APU (yes it should match a RTX 4070 Mobile at 120W TDP fueled by up to 16GB of LPDDR5X-8533 "system VRAM" on a 256-bit bus).
Hopefully the dGPUless SKU will have a 99.9Wh battery 🙏
Up to 16GB ? I surely hope not. It should be starting from 24 GB and go up to 192 or 256 GB. With a beefy integrated GPU, 16 GB of total RAM is basically 8-12 GB for system / CPU and 4-8 GB for video, which is absolutely a waste of a chip, if you're going to bottleneck it so hard with the non-upgradeable RAM.
Haha sure keep dreaming 🤡🤡 120w 4070m my ass! Only apple can deliver 4080m+ lvl IGPUs.
Maybe 3060m lvl igpu from strix halo
@@Winnetou17 I have 32 gigs of system RAM in my TUF A16 so the Radeon 680M technically could use 16 gigs even though it will only ever touch 4GB in practicality due to the passable performance and bandwidth limited 75 GB/s.
LPDDR5X-8533 MT/s on a quad channel 256-bit memory bus nets 3.5x the bandwidth allowing for at least 16GB to be used effectively as VRAM.
Also Windows dynamically allocates up to half the system memory to the iGPU.
Some SKUs with Strix Halo will surely have 64GB for $2,000 or even 96/128GB for $3,000+ so up to 32GB, 48GB, or 64GB respectively would be usable by the "integrated 4070 Mobile".
@@Winnetou17 Why would it be a waste if such a powerful iGPU needs it to run ray-tracing in games at QHD 120hz or AI models or other professional editing-rendering-data heavy workloads?
I have 32 gigs of system RAM in my TUF A16 so the Radeon 680M technically could use 16 gigs even though it will only ever touch 4GB in practicality due to the passable performance and bandwidth limited 75 GB/s.
Meanwhile LPDDR5X-8533 MT/s on a quad channel 256-bit memory bus nets 266 GB/s or 3.5x the bandwidth which allows at least 16GB to be used effectively as VRAM.
Some SKUs with Strix Halo will surely have 64GB for $2,000 or even 96/128GB for $3,000+ so up to 32GB, 48GB, or 64GB respectively via Windows Dynamic Memory Allocation could be leveraged by the "integrated 4070 Mobile".
Hopefully the RAM can be upgraded with higher capacity LPCAMM2 modules, but I haven't heard any confirmation that's the case yet.
@@handlemonium Well, I said already why. You will NOT be able to run ray tracing at 120 FPS and all the rest, if the iGPU is limited to 4 GB of VRAM. How do you think a 4070 would work if it had only 4 GB of VRAM ?
Ok, let's say it's not 4 GB, but 8 GB of VRAM. Now it gets passable. But, then the rest of the system, Windows + the rest has only 8 GB of RAM. Do you think that would be enough ? For some games, especially older ones, if you have nothing else opened, it would. Newer, bigger games... nope. Having a Chrome browser opened to listen to a podcast, well, sucks to be you. Some proffesional program(s) might not even be close to be usable with only 8 GB of RAM. Not to mention Windows bloat.
So, yeah, having Strix Halo with a total of 16 GB of RAM or lower would be a waste.
32 GB or more ... much better. Even only 24 GB it should be pretty good for games.
I think, you helped me to make an order a ProArt P16:
Josh, your graphics and tables are excellent and I know you put a lot of time into creating them. However you are not leaving them on the screen for nearly engough time for the viewers to absorb and comprehend them. Constantly pausing and backing up the video does not make for a pleasant or coherent experience for the viewer. Don't allow your good efforts to go to waste: Leave the graphs on the screen for a longer time. Please accept this suggestion in the spirit with which it was inteded.
This is noted. We are trying to put then on for longer. What I also want to do is have the graph set downloadable. But noted
Cant wait for the Yoga slim 7i Aura 😱😱😱
Coming soon! VERY SOON
@@JustJoshTech 💗
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Thanks for another honest, balanced review.
I got a macbook pro 14 this year and I am saving up to buy a windows machine in a year or two and this looks promising. Might be a good purchase for me if they make a 120 hz one.
you have to aknowledge screen hertz when testing performance. Yoga is 165hz
Ultimately what is customer support and repair like? No matter how awesome a product is, when it becomes a nightmare getting help when the product breaks, it diminishes any performance qualities the device has.
I would immediately buy a ProArt, but the ansi keyboard is a dealbreaker for me. Ansi layout may be the default in the US but here in Europe its ISO what everyone is used to. I do not understand why Asus is getting this wrong.
What do you think of the MSI AI Evo 16 ? I’ve been using one since January and it’s a great 16 inch laptop for the price , it can handle gaming (at moderate settings ) as well as editing my 4K footage in Davinci resolve albeit not quite as smooth as my MacBook Pro. But again , such great value.
8:34 Finally...You are the 1st tech UA-camr that I know of to say this...Too bad vendors probably won't listen.
If they would just put a better screen and touchpad and spec it up in graphics, it would be the perfect windows laptop. Graphics card options and screen are worse than the G16 just so Asus doesn't cannibalize on that line of laptops, which is a shame. I hope companies just stop segmenting their own product lines and just release one high end option that is amazing for every task. Lenovo does the same thing with their Legion and Yoga Pro lines and it's frustrating.
Juicy review, loved it.
Hi! I'm looking for a laptop for studying computer science. I prefer a lightweight, portable model without a dedicated GPU, as I'll primarily be using it at university. And also I would appreciate a good keyboard and high-quality screen.
I've identified four laptops that stand out within my budget. Assuming they are all on sale in my country and prices are all the same (+/- 80 USD) ,which one is the best choice?
1- Lenovo Yoga 7 2-in-1 (14' ) with Ryzen 8840HS, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 60 Hz WUXGA OLED Display
2- Huawei Matebook 14 with Ultra 7 155H, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 120 Hz 2.8K OLED Display
3- ASUS Zenbook 14 with Ultra 7 155H, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 60 Hz WUXGA OLED Display
4- ASUS Vivobook S15 with Ryzen 8845HS, 32 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, 120 Hz 2.8K OLED Display
Either 3 or 4
4.
look for the Lenovo ideapad pro 5 14", has more or less the same specs as the s15 vivobook with much better build quality, should be around $800
A small recommendation is the MacBook air M3 if you want your laptop to last until much after college
@@jeteodor Unfortunately it's not available in my country :/
Great review! When can we expect the first review of the Lunar Lakes to drop?
24th September.
Would have been nice to see this laptop as it is but with some changes:
1. 3:2 aspect ratio.
2. Try out some ergonomic keyboard design and push the keyboard closer to the user and change the trackpad to be in between the keyboard (also slope the end for comfort).
3. Just add a matte filter to set on top of the display as accessory.
4. Add 120/144hz.
5. Skip nonsense like "dial". Be bold and skip Webcam, loudspeakers, mic (or at least make them able to switch off mechanicalyy); integrate an fitting accessory dock at the base that has loudspeaker, mic, cam, Xtra battery/ maybe some ports.
6. Swappable batteries, rams and whatnot.
7. Make it stand dust and water.
8. Higher and lower nits for in the dark and out in sunshine.
Basically build a laptop that's ergonomic, productive, powerful, build quality (not look), that's last long, is somewhat modular but keeps the laptop for what's it was meant for. The rest could go in to a big dock with its own battery attached to the base.
Just want someone to disrupt this shitty laptop market that is just a bad blend of all...
"2. [...] and change the trackpad to be in between the keyboard" In between the keyboard and what ? I assume you didn't actually meant to have the trackpad between keys.
5. webcam at the base is absolutely terrible
And... yeah, I think you'll need to wait for Framework to do most of what you ask. It will take some time. And it will be more expensive (regardless if it's Framework or ASUS or anybody else). And my gut feeling tells me it's going to be quite low volume sales.
Your trolling right?
Cause u can't be serious
@@Winnetou17 yes I meant "trackpad" in between. I want split keyboard.
Again, don't think loudspeaker, mic, cam should be a given in a laptop design. Can easily be an accessory at base. Nothing is impossible. And everyone has a smartphone that already does all that as well; I just want the computer to be a computer.
@@nsoforgerald2192 why?
At this point just get a framework laptop 16, it's a better version of the laptop that you want, and it's real.
Asus's Pro Art line has been very impressive for a while now, not only for devices but MB's as well.
Sucks they cost ROG like prices.
Hey Josh...nice work your are doing here...can you please review the honor magic laptop
Asus Did released Pro Art Laptop which has traditional wheel dial, and it was just works nicer than this one 😅
Yeah, it was "Pro Art Studio book" though
Can you please write the top 5 laptops in your opinion?
Also can you mention top 5 touch screen and or foldable portable laptops? Laptop searching has been interesting with three to five versions of same model by each manufacturer. Thank you.
For the most part, I think the higher dense display isn't really a reason to buy a windows laptop.. I have a pc that 2560 by 1600.. And I don't use it at 125%.. I scale it up to 150%.
Unless I am missing something, I think it's almost same thing..
This is a great laptop and offers a lot for the money. I honestly don't mind if it's 60hz, when I'm at home I use my monitor.
Can you share more thoughts on battery life comparison between G16 and P16? Both with AMD, P16 with more pixels to push... both running at 60Hz on battery mode (right?) - P16 had 20% more batter after 4 hours?? Thanks for any feedback - and great video (again)!
Good video. Though you should have mentioned that Core 200 laptops are coming out later this year, maybe next month already. Preliminary tests show better watt/power ratio than anything AMD and maybe even Qalcom. I'm waiting to see what drops then
I did that on purpose. Those processors you referenced are ONLY in thin and light laptops. They are not being released for laptops like this one
@@JustJoshTech ahh. I've been looking more into thin performance laptops with big screen/high resolution and decent multi core performance. That should work for me
You should check what portability mean.
It can’t make full use of the external gpu when unplugged, and if it could battery life would be like an hour. MacBook pros are the only things that can run at full power unplugged and without sounding like a jet engine. Until something else can reach that level of performance and efficiency, it’s not really in competition
And who would use the macbook pro in full power unplugged for 2 hours until the battery dies btw
You should watch JOSH CRAVES TECH , to get a different perspective of efficiency and Also Alex Ziskind's part on efficiency vs performance metrics .
I don’t know where to buy the Pro Art in Australia 😢
please test the hinge aswell the laptops that i own most of them have hinge problem
Greas video like always. Very nice
After watching this review and the comparisons to other laptops, now more than ever it is clear, the G16 with a 4080 is the best all round portable laptop for creatives/gamers
A question: do the laptop US prices you mention include taxes? For years I was wondering how come these things cost so much more in Europe than in the US, despite not being produced by American companies. Then I found out that in the US price tags often don't include the taxes in them.
If these prices are before tax, I'd suggest that you mention how much it costs with tax in, let's say, your average (tax-wise) US state. Remember that many of your viewers don't live in the US :)
ProArt's keyboard with 1.7mm key travel is at least one, maybe two tiers above Macbook 16's. ProArt's OLED display is much better than Macbook's, as macbook's screen has terrible response time unlike OLED screens with virtually instantaneous response time. ProArt is significantly lighter (300grams). ProArt arguably has better speakers than Macbook 16, because Macbook's speakers, while technically very good, are terribly tuned (very bassy, makes things sound muffled).
IMO, only things the macbook has advantage over the proart is the CPU and the webcam.
I thought the pricing in my region wouldn't be that bad, how could it? I was very wrong. The cheapest one in stock is $5300AUD...
It's sucks for us Australians
Thanks
Thank you
Don't you think the form factor of the old one sample was not better ?
Including a numpad for exemple ?
actually in 1:20 there in PWM seen... such a problem to use low hz PWMs in such premium devices, i dont understand manufacturers, that just about money they want to win
Hey josh great review, I just wanted to know if you'd make a review on the asus zenbook s14 with intel's new lunar lake chip.
Underrated channel
I wish lenovo also made their ideapad black
Josh is correct, ProArt P16 is awesome.
But is expensive as hell, same as MBP16.
Hope there’s a lunar lake version of it soon
Zero chance. Lunar Lake is for lightweight ultra books not high powered laptops
I'd rather have lower resolution than 4k+ such as 1440 but have brighter display on a laptop.
Why on earth do PC laptop makers still feel the need to make really good laptops and shove crappy touchpads in them? I literally do not understand why premium windows laptops do not all have haptic touchpads. Like seriously, Apple was doing this 8 years ago! Lenovo offers like two laptops with that option but those come with displays with horrible PWM flickering that is bad for your eyes or a FHD panel and are overpriced even when on sale, Dell has their XPS lineup which is super overpriced and has many issues including pricing, and finally MIcrosoft has started using them but their surface laptops come with ARM chips that simply cannot run a lot of games and apps.
Why is it that only Apple seems to be the very basics right? Laptop build quality is superb with aluminum frames milled out of a single block of aluminum, screens are awesome, keyboards are great feeling with a standard layout, the laptop feels downright cold during normal usage and gets mildly warm when maxing out the cpu and gpu together, no fan noise at all, battery lasts more than a full day, and best of all the touchpad is fantastic. I find myself using it instead of a mouse sometimes by accident!
Do PC laptop manufacturers think that people don't use these LAPtops on their laps??
I heard there’s gonna be an M4 Mac later in the fall so I wanted to see if you think it’s worth waiting
I would wait.
@@JustJoshTech you really saying I should wait?
@@JustJoshTech do you think the Mac will come with OLED and touchscreen? I hope it’s worth waiting. You talk about battery, life, and temperature and graphics and so much more.
Sorry but watching to the first 2 minutes of the video I cant keep my mind off the fact you take such a deep breath in after every paragraph. 😅
In summary, if you need a good screen and still be as portable as possible, Galaxy Book Ultra is a better option.
But I agree with your point: this division between Pros and Gamers manufacturers use is just stupid. Most people I know that uses this kind of laptop are both.
do you have any feedback/review of the musetree and storycube software on the proart series? are those good or a gimick too?
I like your presentation. Thanks .
You search the best performance not the sponsor promptor !
Would love to see a review of the lenovo thinkbook 16p gen 5
Very similar to the legion 7i but can be found for half the cost (on sale) , great competitor to lenovo own yoga pro 9i
Right now this machine is a few hundred pounds less than the yoga pro 9i in the UK for a higher spec configuration
Wish there was a G14 with 64gb of ram.
when are lunar lake laptops reviews and benchmarks coming?
24 september
24th sep is the embargo date
Will we see lunar lake laptops equipped with dGPUs then?
@@karikaru Probably not since those are made for ultrabooks and if it was it would be 4050/4060 laptops
@@ashenwattegedera ah thanks for the info. Still Im curious to see what a lunar lake CPU and 4060 would do in terms of performance and battery.
The g16 AMD my favorite laptop of the last 9 years. Would only ask for better Linux support!
Snapdragon is in "serious" danger with these low power consuming AMD chips.
Yeah, and you don't need emulators to run Apps.
i consider the first gen of snapdragon X Elite is already obsolete by the presence of amd strix point and intel lunar lake. qualcomm needs to launch the second gen asap
@@Arkan_Fadhila I barely think Snapdragon has the muscles to flex when AMD and Intel have planned upto the 5-7 upgrades in the pipeline.
Maybe, X Elite could be good for smartphones as a chip, what do you think on that?
@@abc_cba i think qualcomm is also have plan for the upcoming X series, we just don't have any leaks about it. and no, there is no way you could fit X Elite inside smartphone. you only could fit it inside a tablet at best yet nobody is trying to do so. oryon cpu is coming to snapdragon 8 gen 4 so there is no need for X Elite in tablet/smartphone at the moment.
@@Arkan_FadhilaIt depends on what you do. AMD Strix Point is no risk to X Elite when you just want a notebook for non-performance tasks. Even for coding the X Elite is much more efficient. The battery life of Strix Point is not even close to it in such scenarios. However, the Lunar Lake could become a real problem for X Elite if it really consumed as less power as the X Elite for non-performance tasks while having a serious GPU at the same time. But we will have to wait for the first unbiased reviews. I would ditch my X Elite notebook for a Lunar Lake if it was as efficient as it allegedly is.
M1 MBP 2021 16gb is the sweet spot
I just want to see laptops with Airjet cooling
Gigabyte has failed in terms of marketing. Not sure why there are very few vids of the 2023 Aero 16 (BSF) from laptop reviewers on YT. I went from a Zephyrus G16 (very similar to this ProArt 16) to the Aero 16 because the Aero 16 is almost half the price (here in AU) and is just as premium as the ProArt 16 / G16...aside from the speakers, as they're very average.
16" laptop gang unite. The perfect size for the actual professionals unlike tiktok pros
use debreather to reduce the breaths... too loud and distracting.. once u hear them, u can't unhear them, use a dynamic compressor...
I will give that a shot
Can you email me at info@justjosh.tech ? Would be a huge help
Dammit PX13 vs P16...ergh Now I can't pick.
the yoga pro 9i is an awesome laptop it just lags battery life i would buy it again
Im looking to buy one this fall. If they release a version with the new AMD zen 5 I'm betting the battery would last quite a bit longer. Even still, I think the Intel version will be okay for me and I'll just try to get a GaN charger for work so I can leave my brick at home.
@@karikaru its been released since 7/28/24
sorry read it wrong
that 60hz low brightness screen kills it for me, I know it's a great laptop for many others but it just does not seem like a valid options for 2024 or almost 2025 where even phones offer a 120hz screen
F*ck I was going to get the G16 HX370 until you said it doesn’t come with the 4080/90