Canon EOS R5 C review
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Correction:
The R5 C does offer a horizon level, it can be enabled in the display output settings.
The Canon EOS R5 C features some very compelling advantages for video shooters over the R5, but is it enough to impress the pros? We brought in professional cinematographer and Jordan's twin brother, Gordon Drake to see how the R5 C stacks up.
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0:00 - Intro
3:17 - Advantages over the R5
4:09 - Disadvantages from the R5
6:40 - Recording modes
10:32 - vs C70
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I have a theory. Gordon is not only a great cinematographer, but an actor too. And he doesn’t have a twin brother, Jordan. It’s Gordon playing Jordan in all episodes. He’s been fooling us for years. What a genius!
Puppet alter-egos, evil twins, what's next? How about American versions of Chris and Jordan who say "Zee" instead of "Zed?"
And they eat McDonald's during reviews.
@@falxonPSN There are more than 1,400 McDonald's locations in Canada.
@@danieldougan269 Inconceivable!
@@Derfookym we're not all gun toting hicks in the US. But we are all fat.
"Zee"? That's a bridge too far!
Love the un-bleeped F-bomb around 45 seconds in, and then the bleeped S-bomb 15 seconds later.
Came here just for that
@@Mark_Sodapopinski same lol
Given the recently announced demise of DPReview. I think this unbleeped F-bomb might not be accidental.
Finally!! An actual professional who knows how to navigate around a cinema camera and can break down cinema aspects of a camera. Thanks Gordon for giving up your time away from the industry to help out this channel.
The turning at the beginning of the shots is killin' me
Didn’t even bleep the entry at 0:41
Yes Canadian's do cuss. haha
@@myownirvana then immediately say “sorry”
😂
I believe the R5C does have a horizon level in video mode. It’s actually awesome! It’s pretty hidden in the settings so I don’t blame you for not finding it. Cheers!
Because he wears shades the whole time i dont blame him for not finding it… cheers 😂
For those wondering, it's the monitoring setup, go to the 5th tab , custom display 1 , look for level
I actually don't like it.. I always read it backwards, but yes it does exist!
Came here to say this. It works great.
4:46 - Dutch Angle! Gordon clearly is a true cinematographer!
I've owned the R5C since the day it came out, it's a great camera! Here's a few remarks about your review:
- It does have a horizon level! I have it enabled all the time. Lol
- In RAW I get about an hour of battery life, not 30 minutes. Still not great, but if I need a lot of battery runtime I will plug in a 20000 mah 65W pd usb power bank and get about 7 hours this way. The non RAW formats will cut that time in half though, so shoot in RAW if you have the storage for it.
- Super16 doesn't do 4K, but 3K only. So no 4K120 in RAW. The 4K120 fps quality is visibly worse compared to lower fps, so that's a bummer.
Wow, I can't believe you got Hollywood superstar Gordon Drake back in your pityful internet show 😍
Not without paying him $2 million dollars to make his important 12 minute appearance.
@@vitaminb4869 worth every canadian dollar
4:44 correction. The R5C does have a horizon level!
Gordon's take on some Photojournalists and Pulitzer Prize is actually much more spot on that you guys think... ayy lmao
So much current technology and I still have my old Canon EOS 77D. 😮💨
Hey man, if it works it works - you can take beautiful pictures with that thing! 👍
Canon T5i for me. Still takes excellent pictures and it's in focus 80% of the time.
@@Simalacrum I no longer use it for photos but for videos.
Love the introduction. Hillarious.
The R5C battery life is tied to frame rate and codec, rather than resolution. 8K 24p raw gets the best battery life at 45min per battery. The 60p 4K XF-AVC eats the battery the quickest. I'm often recording 4K 24p HEVC and it get's about 40min and it's solid.
I also find it funny how the narrative has flipped on C-Log 3. When it first came out, everyone was praising it for being easier to grade than C-Log 2, but now everyone complains that C-Log 3 doesn't have enough dynamic range. So funny. It's a perfectly good curve, just need to know how to expose for it.
Thanks for the review. Probably not for my type of shooting. The FX3 is looking much better in comparison to what I want to do.
Welcome back Gordon! Tell Michael Bay we said hi!
It worth noting, that with the latest firmware the R5 nearly never overheats. Even 4k120 works very good. Also there is no AF Tracking in 4k120 in the R5C. So overall I found the the 4k120 mode in the R5 more usable for my work. (Though its sharper in the R5c). Overall I send my R5C back because the battery live was SO annoyingly bad. Note, when Gordan says "you get maybe half an hour working time" he means actual time the camera is just ON. Not recording. Just on. If you set up your shot, it can easily happens that you kill the first battery, just while setting up your light... In most record modes I got less than 24 minutes of recording out of a full battery.... 4k60 is especialy bad, which happens to be a mode I need mostly...
"leave your opinions, if they line up with mine they are definitely appreciated...." lol
I think this is going to be my favorite video from you guys, it is brilliant and super funny, keep up with the awesome content and please bring that puppet back for future reviews 👌👏👍
Do you think someday Canon will make a camera targeting Photographers only, this way you could purchase a camera body at a decent cost and not have to pay for the video features that never get used by Photographers. Ya I know, marketing says that will never happen 🤔 Great review Gorden 👍😎
With the amount of cameras they're releasing, I wouldn't be too surprised if they did this. Like do we really need 8 different mirrorless RF mount cameras!!?
Like the R3? or the R5?
informative 12min review on the R5C.
The R5C does have on screen levels. Here's a video showing how to turn it on. ua-cam.com/video/lW6I-bW-_PM/v-deo.html
Yeah they didn't do their homework on this
Great review and liking your “graded” to “ungraded “footage for an easy decision when purchasing a new camera as some of us don’t like dealing or don’t have time with post processing.
R5C is the best hybrid camera on the market. 8K RAW 12 bit 60 fps is awesome; RAW ST has great dynamic range (up to 16 stops) and you can get 4K 10 bit as back-up on SD-card. Shooting stills is a wonderful experience with this camera. No stabilised sensor but any cinema camera has. Battery is not a issue at all: A V-Lock on your belt (with a tiny smallrig holder) and you get a lot of hours shooting up to an entire day shooting without changing the battery and without rigging the camera (lots of Canon lenses have IS), so no more weight on your arms. The only drawback is 4K 120 fps: no oversampling causes aliasing and moiré on your footage, no back-up on second card (only audio recording), no magnifying to check focus, no waveform on H265 (only XF-AVC), HDMI output limited to HD 60 (working on 4K H265). REC from Off in 1 second is incredible!
You're wrong about the R5c having no waveform when recording in H265 - it does work. Also magnifying works with H265 recording in 4k though it's not available in H265 8K.
@@csound55 I was referring to 4K 120 fps only: WFM doesn't work in H265, but it does in XF-AVC.
@@jonathancompagnucci7204 oh ok
Thanks, guys!!
Forget the content, love the video :)
Need more bootcamp videos too
Loved the humour in this one and nice to see the R5c footage while Gordon is ranting. Once correction, the R5 doesn't overheat in 4K HQ if you're shooting with firmware 1,6 or later up to 96F. I tested up to 80F and the Deaf Director tested up to 96 in the Texas heat.
This is my Saturday Night Live
This was presented with the smoothness of a person with sniper's hands doing surgery👌
Gordon being mean to jordan is the best part of this channel
0:40 I love it when youtube channels forget to bleep a bad word
The twins are always more amusing than Chris doing his thing alone. You sure Chris doesn’t have a twin too? Christine? 😂
I owned the R5C for almost a year and sold it. It just has too many quirks and tons of broken features. Quirks wise the horrible autofocus especially in low light, 30 min battery life that drops down to as low as 20 min when the battery wears with use over a few months, and the lack of any competent stabilization makes it almost useless to a run and gun shooter. In low light the autofocus would lose it's mind and even show a focus lock on something that was out of focus so even the human only AF would "lock" but it was slightly out of focus. You can't even switch over to manual focus because the manual focus modes are completely broken... Peaking does not work half of the time and has a bunch of different colors some of which don't even show up. And the manual focus assist which is based on the horrible AF gives you false readings because the camera has false focus locks all the time... So you can't even manually focus reliably without an external monitor. The Digital IS ruins shots... Its super choppy. And then the fact that it doesn't have CLOG2 is ridiculous. It's very obvious working with the RAW that you lose a lot of dynamic range because of the CLOG3. You can stretch so much more out of the footage in RAW so it's very obvious that it could support CLOG2.
Dang, 😮
Sounds like a lot of user error and misunderstanding of the camera.
The reason it doesn't "have" clog2 is because of the sensor it uses. You can slap clog2 on it in post if you want, but the sensor is not made for that and will just bring out a bunch of noise in the shadows.
Shoot in RAW for double the battery life. The main appeal of this camera is internal 8K RAW. I don't know what's the point of getting this camera if you're not going to use this main feature?
Digital IS works great! You just can't use it in RAW, so it's a trade off. Together with a lens IS the image is very stable. If it's choppy for you, then you're obviously using it wrong. The in body stabilization such as on R5 is the one that's useless, because of the wobble at edges.
Mirrorless cameras aren't great focusing in low light in general. My old 5DIII would focus better in low light. Blame it on mirrorless technology.
I'm not sure what you mean by "can't switch to manual focus", because it's very easy to switch, simply flip the lens to MF from AF. If you're talking about Continuous AF, then no real videographer uses it - turn it off, the camera isn't smart enough to figure out when to focus and on what. It's upto you to tell it that. It will focus very well otherwise.
@@vitaminb4869 All Sony Cameras have Sony's equivalent to Clog2 even the little 1 inch sensor vloging cameras like the ZV1. There's no reason not to have Clog2 it's just a limitation Canon places on the camera to sell you a more expensive one. As far as the stabilization try doing some follow shots and you will see the digital IS fight you and make the frame jump. If you are just trying to get a steady static shot it's fine but not for any type of handheld camera movement. You misunderstood completely about the manual focus.... Every manual focus assist in the R5C is broken. Sure you can switch it to manual focus but the things that tell you if the image is in focus or not when you are manually focusing aren't reliable and give you false readings. The focus peaking is bugged and doesn't work at all with some of the color settings and you have to make adjustments to the gain for every single exposure change and even then it's almost impossible to get consistency. Then the manual focus assist that turns on when you switch a RF native lens to manual focus is unreliable and doesn't get accurate readings so many times it confirms you have the right manual focus but it's not accurate and the shot is slightly out of focus. And then lastly the no videographer uses autofocus is BS what if you are flying a camera on a gimbal or filming yourself? There are tons of uses for autofocus. The Sony cameras I switched to from the R5C autofocus great, they almost never miss focus even in low light. For most things with Sony's excellent AF theres really no need to manually focus anymore. I'm starting to let the camera do it's thing more and more. Once you switch to Sony you realize how much of a joke Canon has become.
@@NickDelDuca Apparently Sony's equivalent is not equivalent enough. You need 16 stops of dynamic range to utilize clog2. With less all you gonna be doing is bringing out all the noise in the shadows. Nothing is preventing you to have clog2 with R5C if you're so inclined, but it won't be making your footage any better - it'll actually make it worse.
You want to do "follow" shots with IBIS? How is this better? Use the appropriate tool for that. Normal camera movement you can do just fine with digital IS. Maybe you have exceptionally shaky hands, who knows.
You're a Sony fanboy, so what can I say. You want a camera that you turn on and it does everything for you, no matter how good or bad it is. If you want the best possible footage and operate a camera yourself, then you turn off continuous AF, and AF it when and where you need it. I just can't imagine let the camera run continuous AF when there is things moving around all the time, and going in and out of the frame. Good luck. And if nothing is moving around, then you likely don't need continuous AF.
@@vitaminb4869 You sound like me about 6 months ago before I actually tried a newer Sony camera and realized how much better they were. I was a hard core Canon defender and I shot Canon for over 10 years. I used all the same points as you to defend Canon... then I realized it was all cope and Canon was an anti consumer money hungry company that didn't support creators. Sony cameras hold autofocus, they don't pulse, they don't second guess. With the Sony body I have you can take a picture of someone's face and it set it to only autofocus to that person. It can literally track a single subject through a crowd of people. It can almost always autofocus better than you can manually focus. When you keep getting beat by the AF system you tend to use it and rely on it more and more. I have no problem with manual focus though... Been doing it for a long time. The problem with the R5C was that the manual focus assist tools didn't work. As far as IBIS goes Sony's IBIS can be left on because it doesn't do anything weird. It doesn't wobble or warp or cause the frame to jump if you try to track a subject like the R5C's digital IS does. It's completely un intrusive.
I am using canon R5C for almost 6 months now, and only major problems that I am facing is battery issue. Battery life is so short we need at least 10 batteries for a full day shoot. If you can use a usb power delivery R5c is the best❤
Yeah, I don't use internal batteries if I'm gonna film for a long time. Power bank is easy enough to carry and plug it into the camera. Then I don't have to worry about battery life for entire day.
@@vitaminb4869 can you tell me which is the power bank that you are using? The power banks that I have tested are not working.
@@nivedmurali8523 You need one that is a PD power bank. It needs to output enough watts, I believe you want at least 40w. I have one that is 20w PD and it doesn't work. I'm using a Veektomx 65w PD bank, from Amazon, and that one works. Charges the internal battery too, when plugged into the camera. There is also a way to plug the camera into normal power outlet at home, you can either use a laptop charger or buy a PD charger. That way the camera will run forever. It won't damage the camera, so don't worry.
@@vitaminb4869 thank you
does it have autofocus on 120fps 4k? thank you
Down here in the lower 48 we really like Gordon. Something about him… Moar Gordon!
Gordon is the video side, and Jordan is the photo side. Genius, guys.
Jordan is also the video side.
Where are the double thumbs up? That was awesome! One of your best in a while. Jordan’s twin brother sure is arrogant.
great review i alway's love the in depth small things. i do not understand why canon have like a face only AF that won't skip to the background in the R5c but not in the normal R5. also the thing about the horizon level. they seem so small to fix but yet they are like this
would be cool if canon made a cheaper APSC variant, maybe an R7C.
More Gordon! We love Jordan too, but Gordon is a "Maestro"
Thanks for the video Jordan 🔥😍
F bomb dropped!
Both informative and entertaining. Thanks.
Chris has cartoon rabbit ears in that opening shot.
Gordon delivers as usual! 😆
Oh snap. Cooler and Gordon is taller!
How is he so tall and cool?!
This video convinced me to buy the LUMIX S5II, which has many of the same video-centric features…and cost a lot less.
Gordon feels the need...
Gordon, don´t avoid giving anything away. Do you like it? What about vs A7RIV / V?
I thought it was going to be Gordon Laing. TBH I'm a little disappointed.
Methinks Evelyn digs the excessive confidence that Gordon brings ;-)
Good acting job! Awesome bleeping job also.
Did we miss a bleep in the intro??
Gordon, keep your glossy glasses clean! Such a professional I see...
Loved it!
Luv U Gordon!
oh I would kill for a video where Jordan and Gordon compete in their vidoegraphy skills.
I'm hoping and praying for an episode with puppet Gordon, too. That would be EGOT worthy. (All right, maybe not...)
He is Raymond Redington of Cinema Dang.
Can you do some video's on post workflow?
amazing episode. :)👌
More Gordon, less Jordan. Gordon is the George Santos of cinematography!
Gordon da evil twin is back 😂
ok you kept me with the humour... good job guys.
Gordon forgot the mention the micro HDMI port. Amateur.
i just watch these videos for a laugh ahaha loved it :D
Jordan Is the R5C 4K 120 super sampled or line skipping?
Line skipping
That F-Bomb made me so happy
Now THAT is how it's done! What a guy! ;-)
So which for 8k 60
This or the z9? How much worse is the autofocus in it, id i will have an r6 mk2 and an fx3 next to them, and maybe the r5 mk2 when comes out.
I know him as Gordy....Complete W ⚓. Can't see why Chris likes him so much.
I'd love over 60fps on a superzoom. Suggestions but must have some manual focus ability.
Android Chris next?
Hate the character, love the actor.
canon r5c or nikon z9,which is the better hybrid
Something about Gordon reminds me of Jordan.
Hey... R5C is like GH6 with a lot more money with better AF (non factor using cinema lenses) but without the awesome IBIS GH6 has
Sorry Jordon, but the R5C has horizon level, and it's much better than the level offered on the R5, and yes you can hit record and it won't disappear ;)
Wow, Gordon is so cool, I wish I was more like him! (I'm definitely not Jordan)
i like my r5 c, but i only use it for vr video so most the drawbacks are irrelevant for me
I always forget how tall Gordon really is...
Or how small Chris is :D
Strip away the 5 and change it to the RC only, Shazam! You have a video centric only camera. Nope, that won't work. Damn the C70!
Gordon 👍🏿
Thx Gordon! You are a pro with pro knowledge, but you where a bit soft today, cold?
Gordon keeps data flooowing so I Now I don't have to have a playback speed of x1.25 to 1.5.
You bleeped the "shit" but not the "fuck"?. I like your style
love it！
When I grow up I want to be Gordon
Jajajaja love it¡ great video!!
Didn't they fix the R5 over heating with the last firmware update ?
Not fixed, but better. Still wouldn’t trust it on a professional shoot. Especially during the summers.
Where can I find Gordon's socials? Or he is beyond this artificial crap?
How long has the Canon R5C been out for
Gordon is Chad version of Jordan. Taller too
Why do the Drakes have the same beard? Hmm... 🤔 I am super confused.
Thought it was Gordon from Cameralabs…..
Does Gordon wear black wedding ring?
very nice ♥️
Hi there
There is no such thing as the perfect camera for everyone.
Cool 😎 👍👍👍
How can I follow Gordan on socials?