There is actually an entire small Technical Minecraft community around this. They build "War Gears". Basically huge Buildings with lots of different TNT Cannons. Then they shot each other robots with the cannons and who ever gets destroyed first loses. There are a lot of different concepts for cannons and a lot of different rules for the different communities. I am from Germany and I have only been active in some small German communities, but maybe there are some English communities as well. I am sure you would be able to build some fantastic advanced cannons.
As many people have already commented, the Minecraft Minigame "WarGear" combines cannons like these (and more powerful ones) with "regular" redstone engineering and some PvP elements into a whole Gamemode. If you'd like, we can give you and your community a deeper dive on the subject and show you some of our WarGear projects. - Kaltenstein and Miny___ from WarTech
At the end of the video when you described clearing out a whole plain, it reminded me of how modern pearl cannons work. Just have multiple aligned quantities of tnt that launch the payload. Then adjust quantities for angle. Would be cool to see that in conjunction with this tnt cannon.
Anyone interested in tnt cannons should go have a look at some of the advanced cannons you would see in factions servers. I remember some of them were designed specifically to fire the tnt in an L shape trajectory such as was mentioned at the end of this video, as well as some other really cool tech such as firing sand alongside the tnt so that the sand can clear any water away and make sure the tnt can explode
You mean wall remover cannons? This video seems to discuss something similar to tunnel cannons Factions is underrated for more or less inventing all of the modern concepts but still dying Also horizontal nukes, vertical nukes, pseudo nukes, and tunnel cannons
@@dragoni_penguin for the L shape I was thinking more of upshot cannons that could exploit a base or its walls not reaching all the way to y=0. It's pretty sad that factions died off the way it did although pretty predictable given just how pay2win all the big servers became :(
@@dragoni_penguin that might've been what it was called. It's been so long since I last was involved in all that I've completely forgotten what stuff was called
This made me think of the scicraft's ender pearl cannon. They mentioned that the pearl travels so fast it skips multiple chunks per tick so they don't need to load them. Applying this to TNT, could it be possible to create an explosion behind a wall without damaging the wall itself?
No, even when traveling super fast Minecraft still calculates colissions. But, if TNT should travel 10 blocks south and 10 blocks east in the same tick, it will do it in order instead of diagonaly, which allows for some kind of wall sikpping.
@@M_1024 Well, that's a shame. Also means no insta-killing behind a wall arrow cannons. Although, Cubicmetre's shaped explosion is impressive enough by itself
@@tooFarGonexk4he4tu3s actualy, its possible with arrows. If arrow hits an enderman its colissions are disable for one tick so if its fast enough it can go through wall. You can see Docm77's hermitcraft 9 episode for more info
@@M_1024 wow that is interesting. And, considering the speeds already achieved with arrow cannons, it should be possible to skip many layers of blocks in this single tick
The WarGear community has played with this mechanic since 2012 and has built some incredible things. It is full of smart minds looking to create the smallest, most versitile, most effective and most efficient TNT cannons possible. I you are interested in this sort of technical minecraft then i can only recommend.
We call something similar factions in most other places but we generally stay in the 1.7-1.8 range. Used to get 3k people on servers but dying down to a few hundred nowadays.
Technical community is the most fascinating one in the entire Minecraft community. Technical community, redstone and all these crazy stuff are the reasons that I still play the game after years. Well done man!
Back in 2014 I used to play factions with a guy who made these sub-tick cannons! They made a valley that destroyed everything in front of it and effortlessly carved into bases. Nobody believed me that the cannons were real but this is it!
Same, imagine thinking "they can't get me behind this obsidian wall, they are not aligned right!" And then you get disentegrated by that shot from the side
As bastisas comment already mentioned the german wargear community has been making tnt cannons with subticks mechanics for years now. For example the phaenomenon at 10:52 is called a 'stich sprengkopf'. There are dozen of videos on youtube about wargears, especially on the myplayplanet youtube channel, which is the only wargear server. I hope you have a great time with your further cannons :D
@@paulkanja Mostly because they want praise and recognition for stuff that "definitely" exists, without having to show you any of it, kinda pathetic tbh
@@pew6534 they don't need to "show" it, i'd just like to see cubme mess around with wargear cannons and see what weird contraptions they could inspire him to make,, and f off wit yo attitude fore i decide to bring blue muskland to yt
The technical community has discovered factions cannoning! I was very curious about the mechanics of it, I was used to the difference in timing from comparators to repeaters.
Cool video and great explanation! I just wanted to point out that this concept has been heavily explored back in 1.8 factions. We would typically use just normal repeaters and comparators to get that effect, and amplify it so that it reaches 20+ chunks. Try searching "factions tunnel cannon 30 chunks" ( or "30 Row Wall Remover" to see an example of one of the more advanced ideas you were hinting at ). It's amazing seeing stuff like this come to light years later! :D
Thank you. I’m tired of people taking our glory. Ie: going invis and scheming someone else’s cannon then figuring out how it works to show case in a vid… or on their base. Never using a public track of land again. I’ve lost too many cannons. I should know, I build with VERY atypical blocks to TM my cannons.
Glow stone all day everyday, but mu choices in terracotta have been questioned. And the fact that I like to place everything as weirdly as possible (ie, mixing fence gates). But most telling of all is green, pink, blue, and red glazed terracotta + red, yellow, and purple hardened clay + dirt + combination of glowstone and pink stained glass + the fact I like to pack tnt in places it shouldn’t be injected from. But hey: if I can cram 60 stacks of tnt behind a payload every 6.3 seconds, with how weird my palette is and the most annoying reusable cobwebs ever: I can tell who’s been eying me. Unfortunately I no longer play due to having too much other stuff to do (hence the long passage of time for my reply). Besides: factions is dying, hack clients are better than ever, everything is pure PTW. I just don’t care anymore and now I get about 60 hours of my life (per week) back.
Super cool video! I’m loving these easy to follow concept videos, and this is some deep stuff in mc code. Reminds me of PEMDAS. I just think the subject, the way it was introduced, and how it was shown in an example was executed amazingly! I learned something new today.
these types of cannons were used often in OG minecraft factions... 255 hybrid oneshot with slabbust. that tunneling effect is used to clear slabs to allow players to stack sand up to 255 to raid bases
More recently there anti patch aswell, around 2019 it came out Basically people would patch in a straight line because its easier to do while being hit and can be done faster, it would tunnel through the full line in 1 shot where normally its 1 shot per 2-3 blocks
Interesting thing to note is that many old games that ran on fps capped hardware actually used frames as ticks. As far as I know, ticks were invented when people could run games at higher fps, to avoid the game running faster for some people.
The german WarTec Community also know very much detail about this TNT mechanics and already developed different TNT-cannons like you mensioned 11:20 that shoot sideways etc.
Hey Cubic, idk if u ever saw the /fill vid from comet 107’s channel, but that uses this exact same concept with sand. I worked on it a bit with him and after finishing that project we tried doing some stuff with angled tnt and found a group of people who are designing 3D cannons which take advantage of the order that entity movement it processed in to shoot around corners. This is definitely one of the coolest things in the game and I’m glad to c more people exploring it!
@@B_MWG ig u could call it that but mystical and I are in a small community where this kind of damage / cannon is called a stab. We can even shoot them around corners in case of a sidestab for example.
Oh yeah, these were called tunnelers in factions. Since primed TNT is 0.98 of a block, you can do some weird stuff like L shape tunnels if you allign it in a certain way. Cannons like those are called lefty or righty depending on direction it shot at.
Came to watch cool explosive rail weapon, stayed to learn about quantum mechanics, felt good that I understood why the dropper activated but piston didn’t, was pleasantly reminded that there was a rail gun in Minecraft. 10/10 would recommend this journey
Btw Overpressure is not the best way to go, there are more effition ways like primephases which prime an spesic amount of tnt every 1game tick one after another. With this principle you can save a lot of Propellants.
wiring 2 dispensers with different redstone components (comparators and repeaters) also makes this effect as in minecraft's ooe (order of entities) repeaters are calculated first, which makes something similar. people have been using this technique to make cannons in the past (tunnelers, nukes, aps etc), from what i've tested it still works in the new versions of minecraft, you just need to wire the power with repeaters, and the shot with comparators, every dispenser in the power is gonna have priority over the shot, then its gonna calculate its velocity and after that the shot's explosion. and about the 11:07 part, lining 2 tnt entities diagonally and placing one above the other on a non-full block (such as stairs, chains, walls, trapdoors, chests and others) altough their uses may vary, and some may be able to shoot farther than others, the way the position of the tnt is calculated depends on its position to the explosion, if placed diagonally, it's first gonna calculate the y axis, until it hits a block, then after either the x or z value after hitting a block (depends on the orientation) and then its gonna shoot into the wall, forming kind of a triangle hypotenuse or something like that (this is used in almost all modern factions cannons) this applies to any falling entitiy (anvils, sand, concrete, gravel, i haven't tested yet but maybe scafolding works)
reminds me of a series Zipkrowd made back in the day, like right when 1.5 came out they figured out that some components work differently with 1 tick pulses vs 2 tick pulses
Is it just me or is it fascinating that a minecraft community literraly just used redstone by observing game mechanics like how people back in the day made physics by observing the universe
As some pointed out already there are lots of people using this in "Wargears". I in person used it to make an Tunneling cannon that shoots 1100 blocks trough Endstone. Were using this technique since 2012 and are doing some crazy stuff with it. I made an Short on it if ur interested 😬
I was expecting to be clickbaited SOOOO hard I am extremely pleasantly surprised, this was a great level of detail explained very clearly with a truly awesome cannon to finish it off
I can't believe you made Mumbo look bad by actually calling him gadget man. I know he's not as technical as some of the members of technical redstone community but damn growing up with him you just destroyed him in my eyes. Sadge
Technical minecraft is like a long branch on a tree whose base is rooted in the gadget man ideaology. Mumbo often states that he is missing "something" that distinguishes himself as a technical player and I was simply trying to fill in the gap. His goals and ambitions are simply different, not better or worse.
Check out videos on factions, if you search factions raid edit or cannon edit youll find some nicely edited videos on this stuff. You could probably find some good technical videos by people like this ua-cam.com/video/plLrBKNWonE/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/fAzaDDGoPAo/v-deo.html
This did come accross as rather mysterious, I don't understand completely however given my observations I am assuming each TnT processes it's motion first then they schedule the explosion rays to form. So the TnT that is behind explodes launching the projectile TnT away then the projectile TnT schedules the blocks to be broken.
Watch a video behind a faction cannon and you will understand why those tnt floated to the side. 1.8 used to be y-float, E/W float, N/S float, but 1.20.1 is y-float, highest velocity float, idk which version it got changed but at some update they changed it to be like this
pls rename this, these mechanics have absolutly nothing to do with quantum physics. It might be better to say atomic mechanics because atomic referees to "infinitely small".
I learned quantum mechanics before I knew anything about Minecrafts subtick mechanics and honestly, it felt exactly the same. The subtick mechanics are just such a fundamental but arbitrary ruleset for how the simulation plays out and when you discover things like why a piston moving a redstone block into a piston takes 3gt to extend the second piston but moving that same block into a repeater has a total delay of 4gt it can often have these moments of just "why?". I tried to interpret subtick mechanics as every component residing in a quantised time state, and these quantised states have special rules for how they can interact much like fundamental fields. For example, you could think of the repeater field being a thing in minecraft and this provides a good analogy to design tilesets in wireless redstone. Because you can imagine this field being processed everywhere in the game at the same time in the tile tick stage, but then there are repeater states that result in symetry breaking of the field giving you access to multiple combinations of subtick repeater chains which define the channels for wireless redstone.
This is a really cool concept that I believe was originally used for minecraft factions. We called them "Tunnelers" because of their unique property of exploding right after one another. Using what we in the factions cannoner community call "fraction ticks" you are actually able to make a really simple version of this, al you need is 4 repeaters one after the other, into some dispensers, and more dispensers that actually fire the projectile. In terms of it bending, that has to do with how the tnt is aligned, when it is dispensed, it dispenses on the opposite side of the block from the dispenser, however with a piston, you can align it however you want, and if you have the gameticks in the right order, you can make something that will just blow out an entire sheet in a single shot. Overall this is a really cool video, and I love that this is something being investigated outside of the factions community
5:55 Interesting, I am not sure if I am wrong, but from my experimentation & reading the game code, a chest consists of a Block, a TE, and a TESR. The Block is used to store the fact that a chest is there as well as hitboxes, the TE stores the contents, and the TESR renders the chest (since a chest has animations). TE = Tile Entity in MCP, Block Entity in Yarn and MojMap. TESR = Tile Entity Special Renderer in MCP below version 1.13, Tile Entity Renderer in MCP 1.13+, Yarn, and MojMap. The carpet popup also mentioned TERs, not TEs. I do admit that I am not really that experienced with technical minecraft and am just a mod developer :P
im very impressed by how far it can shoot :o made a 330 blocks long tunnel before i accidentally broke the railgun and didnt test further. it can certainly go beyond that also thanks alot for explaining the update order
What i find surprising is that wargears existed for quite a long time now, and cubic is just discovering it. Just goes to show that there is so much to learn in Minecraft.
This is what we do on minecraft factions and there is just so much possible… tunneling sideways, downwards, going through watered walls and stacking sand etc
Me struggling to build a normal tnt cannon and then this guy just shows up and throws some overcomplicated things at my face expecting me to understand
Imagine making a machine that fires a small hole into a mountain but digs out a whole bunker underneath, or even randomly generates a maze! Great video!
if you want to learn more about such cannons, you can join the wargear community, it has about a hundred of mostly friendly members and you'll certainly find someone to explain it to you
I think non-classical would be a better term as it avoids confusing existing concepts with minecraft. With classical minecraft being the typical understanding of redstone, only for those perceived laws to be violated in non-classical redstone, I think makes more sense.
If you want to see some crazy tech you should have seen what the factions cannon building community came up with back in the day. They truly brought tnt to its limits. The left shooting tnt you had brings back memories of the cool direction changing cannons people made
Factions players will know all about tnt railguns and getting the shot to turn multiple directions also by loading sand into the cannon they can make the railgun water resistant
It gets really expensive though, imo its completely impractical for any purposes other than factions, its really fun though :) most modern factions cannons would crash a server that doesnt have a special jar to optimize tnt/sand mechanics
@@ovencake523 yea basically nothing has changed in cannons in the last 4 years, its super cool but way too expensive to be a reasonable choice for anything except factions
Imagine turning this into a tnt world eater. Just build the machine, flick a switch, and boom, a whole 32x32 chunk vaporized
Liquids: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
@@jorvp but then you just go and get rid of the liquids and fire again. It's kinda like the lava clearing phase of a regular world eater.
@@memyselfishness Obsidian: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@@defeatSpace do same thing as liquid cuz that also happens in regular world eater
It would be very cool!
Even if you had to make a chunk without obsidian nor liquids for it
There is actually an entire small Technical Minecraft community around this. They build "War Gears". Basically huge Buildings with lots of different TNT Cannons. Then they shot each other robots with the cannons and who ever gets destroyed first loses. There are a lot of different concepts for cannons and a lot of different rules for the different communities. I am from Germany and I have only been active in some small German communities, but maybe there are some English communities as well. I am sure you would be able to build some fantastic advanced cannons.
a weapon to surpass Metal Gear…
Link?
@@dinamiteurdinamiteur2324 ua-cam.com/video/PfF_jrZ7nYc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=WarTech
*Deutsche Präzisionstechnik*
Ofc its the germans lmfaoo
How dare you attack my gadget man Mumbo
I was searching for this comment lol
Mumbo's the BEST gadget man, and also has an incredible mustache.
Go-go-gadgeto-Mumbo 🕵♂️->->->->🤜
@@loucantnot bro 💀
@@moonsvc ye it me, am a Mumbro
This slander against Mumbo by cubic meter will not be tolerated.
7:45 I love the subtle jab at regular redstoners.
We are a part of the "programmer that likes to break game mechanics" community.
the "intended game design" players vs the "actual game mechanics" players :D
@@YounesLayachi the hermitcraft vs scicraft in a nutshell
@@Mr_Reaps25 Docm77 exists
@@gammafoxlore2981 That's why I love watching his videos. Just seeing everyone else react to the crazy stuff you can do with the game
Yet no one mentioned mumbojumbo in the background at that scene
As many people have already commented, the Minecraft Minigame "WarGear" combines cannons like these (and more powerful ones) with "regular" redstone engineering and some PvP elements into a whole Gamemode.
If you'd like, we can give you and your community a deeper dive on the subject and show you some of our WarGear projects.
- Kaltenstein and Miny___ from WarTech
sadly i dont speak german, wish i could become a part
Huh
Don’t trust wt, trust dpr…
Must of us speak german and we already have some emglish players we wouldnt mind if you joint us
do you have any players who have UA-cam in English you suggest? I'd like to learn more about this kinda sutff
@@Simon4ZX
At the end of the video when you described clearing out a whole plain, it reminded me of how modern pearl cannons work. Just have multiple aligned quantities of tnt that launch the payload. Then adjust quantities for angle. Would be cool to see that in conjunction with this tnt cannon.
Soon: "Bypassing the worldborder to access the farlands in Minecraft 1.19+"
True
That casual mumbo burn has me rolling man
Anyone interested in tnt cannons should go have a look at some of the advanced cannons you would see in factions servers. I remember some of them were designed specifically to fire the tnt in an L shape trajectory such as was mentioned at the end of this video, as well as some other really cool tech such as firing sand alongside the tnt so that the sand can clear any water away and make sure the tnt can explode
You mean wall remover cannons?
This video seems to discuss something similar to tunnel cannons
Factions is underrated for more or less inventing all of the modern concepts but still dying
Also horizontal nukes, vertical nukes, pseudo nukes, and tunnel cannons
@@dragoni_penguin for the L shape I was thinking more of upshot cannons that could exploit a base or its walls not reaching all the way to y=0.
It's pretty sad that factions died off the way it did although pretty predictable given just how pay2win all the big servers became :(
@@fl00ds reversing?
Or alien tech where backboards aren't destroyed
@@dragoni_penguin that might've been what it was called. It's been so long since I last was involved in all that I've completely forgotten what stuff was called
@@fl00ds You're thinking of reverse lefty cannons
This made me think of the scicraft's ender pearl cannon. They mentioned that the pearl travels so fast it skips multiple chunks per tick so they don't need to load them. Applying this to TNT, could it be possible to create an explosion behind a wall without damaging the wall itself?
I would love seeing that too, a "Houdini bomb", that **teleports behind you** and explodes
No, even when traveling super fast Minecraft still calculates colissions. But, if TNT should travel 10 blocks south and 10 blocks east in the same tick, it will do it in order instead of diagonaly, which allows for some kind of wall sikpping.
@@M_1024 Well, that's a shame. Also means no insta-killing behind a wall arrow cannons. Although, Cubicmetre's shaped explosion is impressive enough by itself
@@tooFarGonexk4he4tu3s actualy, its possible with arrows. If arrow hits an enderman its colissions are disable for one tick so if its fast enough it can go through wall. You can see Docm77's hermitcraft 9 episode for more info
@@M_1024 wow that is interesting. And, considering the speeds already achieved with arrow cannons, it should be possible to skip many layers of blocks in this single tick
The WarGear community has played with this mechanic since 2012 and has built some incredible things. It is full of smart minds looking to create the smallest, most versitile, most effective and most efficient TNT cannons possible. I you are interested in this sort of technical minecraft then i can only recommend.
Well they used it back in 1.7 I think but it wasn’t understood as well
We call something similar factions in most other places but we generally stay in the 1.7-1.8 range. Used to get 3k people on servers but dying down to a few hundred nowadays.
@@dragoni_penguin you can't compare the factions and WarGear community
@@EgalTv imo I feel it's about the same concept and development
@@dragoni_penguin There are many differents, for example which cannon types are useful in the Wargear scene and some arent
This brings back memories of faction TNT cannons we used to build. All sort of them to fit the base design the other teams had built.
This is just phenomenal! I can’t wait to see what is done with this concept. Amazingly concise explanation paired with limitless potential
Limitless is a good description, I think there is already a cannon which can dig 1000 blocks in one stap but brings minecraft to its limits
Technical community is the most fascinating one in the entire Minecraft community. Technical community, redstone and all these crazy stuff are the reasons that I still play the game after years.
Well done man!
Back in 2014 I used to play factions with a guy who made these sub-tick cannons! They made a valley that destroyed everything in front of it and effortlessly carved into bases. Nobody believed me that the cannons were real but this is it!
Love the idea of having to break into a base or something and using a curvy cannon for the hole
Same, imagine thinking "they can't get me behind this obsidian wall, they are not aligned right!"
And then you get disentegrated by that shot from the side
1.8 factions is all about that
@@kengored_alt I could get your hands on a schematic of a cannon doing just that, only works in 1.12 though and is ancient but good enough
As bastisas comment already mentioned the german wargear community has been making tnt cannons with subticks mechanics for years now. For example the phaenomenon at 10:52 is called a 'stich sprengkopf'. There are dozen of videos on youtube about wargears, especially on the myplayplanet youtube channel, which is the only wargear server. I hope you have a great time with your further cannons :D
Serverhate nicht nötig danke
SteamWar existiert doch auch noch, oder?
@@bausteinmeister4145 natürlich ist meiner Meinung nach sogar besser der nette Herr da oben kann sich den hate nur nicht verkneifen
it's called warhead or flank-/down-/up-/backworm in English, if I am not mistaken
@@bastisas1023 ich wär mir nicht sicher dass Mmonu Steamwar überhaupt kennt 😂der is schon länger nicht mehr aktiv
Have you ever heard of the Wargear scene? It's a scene that "specializes" purely in TNT canons. But it is pretty unknown
It' literally mentioned in every comment lol
@@paulkanja I know pretty unknown but everyone in the comments seems to know about it lmfao.
@@courier3567 Ig it's because Steamwar and planetplay guys are the ones most likely to have tc on this kind of videos
@@paulkanja Mostly because they want praise and recognition for stuff that "definitely" exists, without having to show you any of it, kinda pathetic tbh
@@pew6534 they don't need to "show" it, i'd just like to see cubme mess around with wargear cannons and see what weird contraptions they could inspire him to make,, and f off wit yo attitude fore i decide to bring blue muskland to yt
What if you're chilling in MC one day and see your friend building a massive railgun pointing to your house
"bro its just a prank"
As the Great Owl told the mousewife: move
The technical community has discovered factions cannoning! I was very curious about the mechanics of it, I was used to the difference in timing from comparators to repeaters.
really enjoyed that shot at mumbo. great content :D
Cool video and great explanation! I just wanted to point out that this concept has been heavily explored back in 1.8 factions. We would typically use just normal repeaters and comparators to get that effect, and amplify it so that it reaches 20+ chunks. Try searching "factions tunnel cannon 30 chunks" ( or "30 Row Wall Remover" to see an example of one of the more advanced ideas you were hinting at ). It's amazing seeing stuff like this come to light years later! :D
Wow, just looked at that video! That's crazy!
ah yes another cannoning gamer been a while since I played factions or designed a cannon
Thank you. I’m tired of people taking our glory. Ie: going invis and scheming someone else’s cannon then figuring out how it works to show case in a vid… or on their base. Never using a public track of land again. I’ve lost too many cannons. I should know, I build with VERY atypical blocks to TM my cannons.
@@Et79055 dont tell me you use slabs instead of glow stone
Glow stone all day everyday, but mu choices in terracotta have been questioned. And the fact that I like to place everything as weirdly as possible (ie, mixing fence gates). But most telling of all is green, pink, blue, and red glazed terracotta + red, yellow, and purple hardened clay + dirt + combination of glowstone and pink stained glass + the fact I like to pack tnt in places it shouldn’t be injected from. But hey: if I can cram 60 stacks of tnt behind a payload every 6.3 seconds, with how weird my palette is and the most annoying reusable cobwebs ever: I can tell who’s been eying me. Unfortunately I no longer play due to having too much other stuff to do (hence the long passage of time for my reply). Besides: factions is dying, hack clients are better than ever, everything is pure PTW. I just don’t care anymore and now I get about 60 hours of my life (per week) back.
great content
it’s rare to find minecraft youtubers who cover complex ideas effectively and in a manner that is entertaining and unique
bro took a whole video to show you can move tnt and explode it in the same gametick
@@swaggyjjalldayeverydayoh that's what he was trying to say
Super cool video! I’m loving these easy to follow concept videos, and this is some deep stuff in mc code. Reminds me of PEMDAS.
I just think the subject, the way it was introduced, and how it was shown in an example was executed amazingly!
I learned something new today.
these types of cannons were used often in OG minecraft factions... 255 hybrid oneshot with slabbust. that tunneling effect is used to clear slabs to allow players to stack sand up to 255 to raid bases
More recently there anti patch aswell, around 2019 it came out
Basically people would patch in a straight line because its easier to do while being hit and can be done faster, it would tunnel through the full line in 1 shot where normally its 1 shot per 2-3 blocks
Interesting thing to note is that many old games that ran on fps capped hardware actually used frames as ticks. As far as I know, ticks were invented when people could run games at higher fps, to avoid the game running faster for some people.
I loved this video. You explain everything very well, speak clearly, and your video has a smooth storyline. I subscribed :)
The german WarTec Community also know very much detail about this TNT mechanics and already developed different TNT-cannons like you mensioned 11:20 that shoot sideways etc.
To understand what they made: they build enormous Tanks full with advanced TNT-cannons and fight each other with that.
This man is way ahead of his time
ORDER OF ENTITIES, 3 words that defined Minecraft cannoning
Absolutely, and order of directions
@@Azaqa true i always hated how much time i wasted cus my first trinagle cannon faced the wrong direction
@@AnteUjcic yea :) luckily most servers eventually added east west patch
7:42 😆did my man dirty
Hey Cubic, idk if u ever saw the /fill vid from comet 107’s channel, but that uses this exact same concept with sand. I worked on it a bit with him and after finishing that project we tried doing some stuff with angled tnt and found a group of people who are designing 3D cannons which take advantage of the order that entity movement it processed in to shoot around corners. This is definitely one of the coolest things in the game and I’m glad to c more people exploring it!
this tech is so old, it's fun to see it being brought up again
It’s fun relooking old stuff wirh a new understanding, and I think this is entry level stuff
@m^3
You should search for Wargears.
Wargears are tnt battle ships.
And the entire wargrar community specializes in tnt/cannon physics.
"TnT Railgun Using Minecraft's Quantum Mechanics" is a title I would have never guessed would happen in a million years...
i would call this a 0 tick stab cannon
I would too
@@mystical6081 aah yes a man of culture
I think that's a high pressure cannon
@@B_MWG ig u could call it that but mystical and I are in a small community where this kind of damage / cannon is called a stab. We can even shoot them around corners in case of a sidestab for example.
POV: @@Lord_Loading explains the wargear scene to someone even though they are already in the wargear scene
I've been trying to do this type of thing long ago. Amazing work!
Oh yeah, these were called tunnelers in factions. Since primed TNT is 0.98 of a block, you can do some weird stuff like L shape tunnels if you allign it in a certain way. Cannons like those are called lefty or righty depending on direction it shot at.
Ahh good to see old Saxton Hale manufacturing weapons again
Advanced cannoneers can sometimes use this feature to create cannons that can shoot round' corners. Note that this isn't always the case.
I love your video format of Finished Product -> How you made it -> What you did sid to get there
I think we should do public tech again
Came to watch cool explosive rail weapon, stayed to learn about quantum mechanics, felt good that I understood why the dropper activated but piston didn’t, was pleasantly reminded that there was a rail gun in Minecraft.
10/10 would recommend this journey
Btw Overpressure is not the best way to go, there are more effition ways like primephases which prime an spesic amount of tnt every 1game tick one after another. With this principle you can save a lot of Propellants.
bridging the apparent gap between game and game development is my fav part of technical minecraft
your channel is a treasure trove of useful information; thanks for the informative videos.
wiring 2 dispensers with different redstone components (comparators and repeaters) also makes this effect as in minecraft's ooe (order of entities) repeaters are calculated first, which makes something similar. people have been using this technique to make cannons in the past (tunnelers, nukes, aps etc), from what i've tested it still works in the new versions of minecraft, you just need to wire the power with repeaters, and the shot with comparators, every dispenser in the power is gonna have priority over the shot, then its gonna calculate its velocity and after that the shot's explosion. and about the 11:07 part, lining 2 tnt entities diagonally and placing one above the other on a non-full block (such as stairs, chains, walls, trapdoors, chests and others) altough their uses may vary, and some may be able to shoot farther than others, the way the position of the tnt is calculated depends on its position to the explosion, if placed diagonally, it's first gonna calculate the y axis, until it hits a block, then after either the x or z value after hitting a block (depends on the orientation) and then its gonna shoot into the wall, forming kind of a triangle hypotenuse or something like that (this is used in almost all modern factions cannons) this applies to any falling entitiy (anvils, sand, concrete, gravel, i haven't tested yet but maybe scafolding works)
2:36 Why did the last piston disappear?
Visual bug, I'm assuming due to 1.19s optifine
@@cubicmetre Oh alright that makes sense. Thanks for the response! :D
reminds me of a series Zipkrowd made back in the day, like right when 1.5 came out they figured out that some components work differently with 1 tick pulses vs 2 tick pulses
Why did you do Mumbo dirty like that lmao
Is it just me or is it fascinating that a minecraft community literraly just used redstone by observing game mechanics like how people back in the day made physics by observing the universe
Ever heard of Minecraft war gears¿
First explanation about TPS that i umderstood. You explain things well!
As some pointed out already there are lots of people using this in "Wargears". I in person used it to make an Tunneling cannon that shoots 1100 blocks trough Endstone. Were using this technique since 2012 and are doing some crazy stuff with it. I made an Short on it if ur interested 😬
I was expecting to be clickbaited SOOOO hard
I am extremely pleasantly surprised, this was a great level of detail explained very clearly with a truly awesome cannon to finish it off
I can't believe you made Mumbo look bad by actually calling him gadget man. I know he's not as technical as some of the members of technical redstone community but damn growing up with him you just destroyed him in my eyes. Sadge
Technical minecraft is like a long branch on a tree whose base is rooted in the gadget man ideaology. Mumbo often states that he is missing "something" that distinguishes himself as a technical player and I was simply trying to fill in the gap. His goals and ambitions are simply different, not better or worse.
i had to check the date this was posted out of fear.
scicraft are gonna have a blast with this.
Are you Saxton hale from tf2
It would be absolutely epic to see this concept taken to the extreme
There are some cannons out there build by members of the German "WarGear" community. Just look up "WarGear" or "Stichkanone" on UA-cam.
Check out videos on factions, if you search factions raid edit or cannon edit youll find some nicely edited videos on this stuff. You could probably find some good technical videos by people like this
ua-cam.com/video/plLrBKNWonE/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/fAzaDDGoPAo/v-deo.html
@@Azaqa ooh thanks I'll definitely check that out
Wait, but
If it updates in a snake pattern, aren't halve of the tnt lines pointing backwards?
This did come accross as rather mysterious, I don't understand completely however given my observations I am assuming each TnT processes it's motion first then they schedule the explosion rays to form. So the TnT that is behind explodes launching the projectile TnT away then the projectile TnT schedules the blocks to be broken.
So your theory is to remove every 2nd line of TNT ? I wonder if it could blast *further* ....
the explosion rays don't influence the motion of the tnt, they are only used to process the block damage
Watch a video behind a faction cannon and you will understand why those tnt floated to the side. 1.8 used to be y-float, E/W float, N/S float, but 1.20.1 is y-float, highest velocity float, idk which version it got changed but at some update they changed it to be like this
pls rename this, these mechanics have absolutly nothing to do with quantum physics. It might be better to say atomic mechanics because atomic referees to "infinitely small".
subtick or eventdelay is more common
I learned quantum mechanics before I knew anything about Minecrafts subtick mechanics and honestly, it felt exactly the same. The subtick mechanics are just such a fundamental but arbitrary ruleset for how the simulation plays out and when you discover things like why a piston moving a redstone block into a piston takes 3gt to extend the second piston but moving that same block into a repeater has a total delay of 4gt it can often have these moments of just "why?". I tried to interpret subtick mechanics as every component residing in a quantised time state, and these quantised states have special rules for how they can interact much like fundamental fields. For example, you could think of the repeater field being a thing in minecraft and this provides a good analogy to design tilesets in wireless redstone. Because you can imagine this field being processed everywhere in the game at the same time in the tile tick stage, but then there are repeater states that result in symetry breaking of the field giving you access to multiple combinations of subtick repeater chains which define the channels for wireless redstone.
7:45 love how MumboJumbo standing aside and listen to quantum mechanics of technical Minecraft lecturer
"gadget man" with mumbo in the background was amazing.
I guess you could say you’re…starting 2023 with a bang…?
thanks to this video i managed to make a quantum transistor in minecraft
This is a really cool concept that I believe was originally used for minecraft factions. We called them "Tunnelers" because of their unique property of exploding right after one another. Using what we in the factions cannoner community call "fraction ticks" you are actually able to make a really simple version of this, al you need is 4 repeaters one after the other, into some dispensers, and more dispensers that actually fire the projectile. In terms of it bending, that has to do with how the tnt is aligned, when it is dispensed, it dispenses on the opposite side of the block from the dispenser, however with a piston, you can align it however you want, and if you have the gameticks in the right order, you can make something that will just blow out an entire sheet in a single shot. Overall this is a really cool video, and I love that this is something being investigated outside of the factions community
it's insane how it's been 11 years since launch and people still keep finding new things
bro got the saxton hale skin
7:46 Cubicmetre throws absolute SHADE at mumbo jumbo in the background
5:55 Interesting, I am not sure if I am wrong, but from my experimentation & reading the game code, a chest consists of a Block, a TE, and a TESR. The Block is used to store the fact that a chest is there as well as hitboxes, the TE stores the contents, and the TESR renders the chest (since a chest has animations).
TE = Tile Entity in MCP, Block Entity in Yarn and MojMap.
TESR = Tile Entity Special Renderer in MCP below version 1.13, Tile Entity Renderer in MCP 1.13+, Yarn, and MojMap.
The carpet popup also mentioned TERs, not TEs.
I do admit that I am not really that experienced with technical minecraft and am just a mod developer :P
Thats right, I am sure TE is always associated with a block
the tug of war experiment will forever live on with the same notoriety as the double slit experiment
im very impressed by how far it can shoot :o
made a 330 blocks long tunnel before i accidentally broke the railgun and didnt test further. it can certainly go beyond that
also thanks alot for explaining the update order
What i find surprising is that wargears existed for quite a long time now, and cubic is just discovering it. Just goes to show that there is so much to learn in Minecraft.
this feels like a Black Mirror episode. well done.
"Your average gadget man..." *MumboJumbo in the background* 7:45
7:47 you see a wild mumbo out in the wild
This is what we do on minecraft factions and there is just so much possible… tunneling sideways, downwards, going through watered walls and stacking sand etc
This is exactly what I expect Saxton Hale to make
"TNT", "railgun","minecraft", "quantum mechanics"
never thought i would see/hear those words in the same sentence and they would make sense.
I am shooketh. My brain has expanded. I just...holy cow, this is massive to me...
Me struggling to build a normal tnt cannon and then this guy just shows up and throws some overcomplicated things at my face expecting me to understand
Very good video like it and its pretty good to see what you can do with tnt
There is much more advents stuff
imagine what this man will do with the create mod + addons, its just terrifying
Mumbo the gadget man 💀
My mind is blown.. Just like that mountain. HOLY!! this is genius
I accidentally made this forever ago and wondered how the tnt ended up breaking things everywhere instead of one big explosion but now i know why!
Nicely done
Actually just plain astounding
Throwing shade on the poor old gadget man.
4:46 Mumbo just chillin in the background
Imagine making a machine that fires a small hole into a mountain but digs out a whole bunker underneath, or even randomly generates a maze! Great video!
the idea that you could just hit a button and an underground base with an access hole in the side of a mountain randomly appears lmao
This is a very good video, wish I understood more of it, but it's still super cool, hope you make more videos about this stuff
if you want to learn more about such cannons, you can join the wargear community, it has about a hundred of mostly friendly members and you'll certainly find someone to explain it to you
@@ATOM-vv3xu I'd like to talk to the unfriendly members of a Minecraft tnt railgun community, wonder what those people are like.
@@KarimovPrime they just had negative experiences with one of the servers and now hate that one, but you can just ignore them
@@KarimovPrime it's pretty much like the java-bedrock debate. Both servers/games are great but some prefer one and others the other
@@ATOM-vv3xu but bedrock sucks...
I wish my physics professor would say “let’s sus out the quantum mechanics”
"Gadget man"
*mumbo writing notes in the distance*
I think non-classical would be a better term as it avoids confusing existing concepts with minecraft. With classical minecraft being the typical understanding of redstone, only for those perceived laws to be violated in non-classical redstone, I think makes more sense.
QMD (quantum minecraft dynamics)
If you want to see some crazy tech you should have seen what the factions cannon building community came up with back in the day. They truly brought tnt to its limits. The left shooting tnt you had brings back memories of the cool direction changing cannons people made
yeahhhh lefty cannons & wall removers + alien reverse cannons
If another Diversity is made, I hope the trivia section includes subtick mechanics XD
Factions players will know all about tnt railguns and getting the shot to turn multiple directions
also by loading sand into the cannon they can make the railgun water resistant
It gets really expensive though, imo its completely impractical for any purposes other than factions, its really fun though :) most modern factions cannons would crash a server that doesnt have a special jar to optimize tnt/sand mechanics
@@Azaqa1y later, do you still think it's impractical?
@@ovencake523 yea basically nothing has changed in cannons in the last 4 years, its super cool but way too expensive to be a reasonable choice for anything except factions
Early minecraft: I made a iron door trap!
Late game minecraft: I bend law of Physics to make a death star beam!
Therapist: "0 tick tnt gun isn't real it can't hurt you"
0 tick tnt gun: