The chemistry is actually similar to Robert Smith demonstration of Copper - iron battery. Instead of using powder, he used a copper and iron sheets and formed the oxide layer by charging it. He was trying to show it as an improved Baghdad battery.
@@joyofelectronics9782 He said it showed some promise, but he didn't elaborate anymore than that which was kinda disappointing. I am curious about the durability and energy density of it, perhaps, your version can shed some light on the topic ?
I believe I know why. He was a chemist. He had a battery he was trying to scale, he sold the company , signed an NDA so he could get it into production and surprise, the company he was working with killed the project. Just a theory but anytime that man is quiet on how something works be suspicious, because he is not quiet.
@@johnschneider931 He had many projects for a company. The only one i remembered that could not disclose the specifics was regarding a credit card size super capacitor. As for the Copper-Iron (Baghdad) battery, he showed us it was built and tested it initially, but he didn't show the capacity, power density, or longevity....... I wanted to know if this type of battery was a viable replacement for Lead-acid.
@@joyofelectronics9782 Nice Baghdad Battery version. @gconol @johnschneider931 I dont know,... but what I heard was, that the battery dont work as promised (also from people which work thogeter). Also 10 min on google search,... you can find that all 5 companies from Rob dissolved via compulsory strike-off.
Hi , I would like to give a useful tip for any future electrical project that you may share on YT . when we talk about electricity , we get involved with Volts and Amperage . So people who will watch your video will want to know the result getting out of it . If you want to have more subscribers and Likes ( which is your main goal here ) Then you must show not only some volts , but the current that it gives ( Speaking about this battery here ) . the best way to do a real nicely presented project , Edit useless time consuming for your viewers like for example 5 mns of mixing something , painting or manipulation the mini mixer to power it , etc etc . I would have solder some wire and clamp off camera and some support for the mixer and motor . All this will add a more professional touch to your valuable project . Yes I said VALUABLE project , cause it can really help others to give a try and who knows that people maybe will want you to build some for them and most of all PAY for it . OFF topic : I am actually making a small solar project to be used in an Hydroponic lettuce culture . and I don`t want to buy expensive batteries to make experiences . So I wanted to build a huge lead acid battery out of scrap ones .I shall reuse the neg plates and convert some of them to pos plates . When I say a huge battery I am talking about something around a square meter large by 50 cms high . I knew nothing about batteries a month ago and I have learn a lot on videos like yours . This off topic was just to tell you how valuable people like you can be .🙂🙂
i would like you to test your batteries and caps with the amp function on your multimeter, to see the current load and also to measure the total W/h of the batteries =) can you test it this way? nicely done, are you sure you are the first to invent this type of battery? cheers
You cannot do what you just did if you wanted to secure your invention with a patent. Once you put it out here on UA-cam you gave up your claim to a patent. You have placed it in public the "public domain!" Just a simple demonstration puts it into the public domain and you showed your formula in clear detail and then went on to show how to build it! This is where pride gets you. The bottom line, you blew your chance to make a great amount of money with it. How many other of your inventions have you done this to?
Very true and I can also attest to this truth. The ONLY way you could've protected yourself was to get your battery in patent pending status which is A LOT more inexpensive as it's not actually issued the full patent yet. This allows you to test, produce, and even sell your product in the market for about a year before the patent pending status expires or you file for the actual patent, which costs thousands for just the US alone. Worldwide patent will cost you even way more than that. Because you showed how to make it too, ANYONE can copy and sell this without your permission until you actually have a patent issued and not just patent pending. Once it's been issued, then if anyone tries to sell it any further from that point, you can sue them for patent infringement.
Yeah, "please don't use this for commercial purposes"...Chinese megacorps do not care about a little disclaimer. They already steal stuff that is patented, if it's not it's free real estate.
A lawsuit over patent infraction would be $1M or more so patents kinda useless, not to mention the darker side of how parents can be frozen by the patent office
Do you want to know who actually invented this type of battery? I did, and I documented this back in January 2004! I have been willing to work with this "Joy of Electronics" guy because I think he is a smart guy to invent things I have since I was in my mid teen years. The problem is that I have given him an olive branch more than once and he didn't accept my humble offer. Either way, I'm ok with this. I've invented a few inventions in my lifetime. I'm now 63 in July of this year. The first product I will be offering is what is being called "graphene." It's not what everyone is saying it is. I can process it from a mineral ore more efficiently and very cheaply. If anyone here is interested I will send you a 4 oz. sample for 1/3rd of the present cost that it is presently being charged for in US dollars.
@@itt1957 I have discovered how to make "graphene" super cheaply with a simple process that takes less than a half hour of my time. It is extremely pure and starts off with a simple ore type that is easy for me to obtain. I will be able to make a large amount of it once I get the funding for the equipment and materials to upscale my process.
@@sc0or Au contrare my friend. I found this ore back in the year 1976. I knew I was odd. It took me around 50 years to realize what I have. To this day no one knows about this ore. I could find no reference to it anywhere. have sent 100 grams in powdered form to three people who are now working with it to turn it into batteries. It is just as good as what the univerisity idiots are calling graphene. It is a mineral that consists of pure graphene! You will soon find out about it when I offer it on eBay for a lot less than what graphene is going for these days. It will revolionize the electrical car industry and many more things.😊
Early battery ("pile") experimenters naturally tried every possible combination of common materials around them (ESPECIALLY the conductive metals). How do you think electronegativity charts for the elements came about in the first place? The combinations that worked best as batteries or were most economical were naturally chosen for common use, and made famous. But there were so many other combinations that also yielded electricity! They were just not as practical for one reason or another, and eventually "forgotten". Bless your sheltered heart if you actually believe that nobody had ever thought of trying two of the most common metal powders known since antiquity. And it's hilarious (ok, also sad) that so many commenters accept the claim that you could've claimed such obviousness as an invention today. Mostly what I notice are many of the common tricks used to get a video noticed on UA-cam - clickbaity title, exaggerated claims, piles of keywords for the search engines (including popular keywords that have nothing to do with the actual video, like "graphene"), and the sly suggestion that curious viewers will be let in on a "secret" for free - sssh! Don't try to profit from this 'new' idea! lololol Obviously, that strategy is working for your channel, or the algorithm wouldn't have promoted it. Good thing I can tell UA-cam not to suggest more videos from channels that use lame deceptive tricks to get more views. At best, it's still mostly an educational DIY, could be made as part of a science fair project comparing with more common battery chemistries. Maybe kids will learn something, repeating Enlightenment-era experiments in the 21st century.
Yh but it works...so the video is not pointless...any cheap made or pottentially even free batteries even If you have too make 50 off them and series and parralel them n put in a container too achieve a 12v workable battery then the video is not a waist and nor are any like it ...
Hey, I liked your battery video, mate. Question Could you use, say, 'Nylon instead of paper and Agur mixed with Sodium Hydroxide as the Electrolyte then use Silk Screen for all thick Ink or Paste for Copper Foil? Also, could you use Aluminum Foil instead of Copper Foil? Maybe change over to Table Salt? Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with me. 😊
Thanks brother. I think you had better to experimented those materials. I made a lot of experiments with the battery but this is the best result l got up to now. 😊
Using regular table salt wouldn’t have the same destructive outcomes of the Hydroxide he was using though. It would be so much cheaper to use Aluminum over Copper and could be designed and really made anywhere. Like you mentioned earlier, Aluminum Cans could be used. This Battery already exists now. What he has designed is in use now. This is the reason I asked him about this. Thank you for your comment.
Nice proof of concept :-) Thanks for sharing! Some more details would be interesting to know: How much capacity has the battery? How about self discharge and number of possible charging cycles? Many greetings from Germany
Thanks brother. Let me give detail informations. If the surface area of the battery will be 750 cm^2 the measures will be like this; Capacity: 1800 mAh Operating voltage: 1.6 V Max output current: 2.1 Amp Charging voltage and current: 2.2 volts with 0.6 A Charging cycle : more than 10,000 times (not proofed yet, just estimated) Self discharge rate: 1.2% per day
I think you got the area of the electrodes wrong; 25cm x 6cm = 150cm2 not 750cm2. Otherwise, 2.1Amps for 750cm2 is damn too small amount of maximum current for a battery of 750cm2 electrode size
thank you very much dear sir, can you state why did you choose the oxides form instead of the pure metals and what are the expected reactions on each electrode?
Earlier in the video you noted that the positive terminal by sniping off some of the terminal. then when you hooked up the charge cables the other terminal as being positive and hooked the positive charge cable to it and proceeded. was there a reason for that. thank you.
super! quel oxide de fer utilises-tu? il semble noir sur la video...Fe2O4? le CuO a des propriétés thermoélectriques, si tu poses ta batterie sur un coté chaud/un coté froid elle peut partiellement se charger?
dostum pillere mıknatıs uygulandığında kapasitelerinde bir artış gözlendiğini gösteren birkaç makale okumuştum. Bu pilinde bir elektrodu mükemmel manyetik özellik gösteren bir demir oksit malzemesinden yapıldı. Bu pille mıknatıs deneyleri yapma şansın varmı.Örneğin manyetik alan etkisi altında çıkış voltajı veya akımı etkileniyormu? Buna bakma şansın olursa ve bilgilendirirsen çok sevinirim.
Burada kullandığım demir oksit manyetik özelliği plan manyetit değil kardeşim. Bahsettiğin fenomeni biliyorum bende denedim daha önce ama kayda değer bir artış göremedim ben açıkçası. Mantıklı bir açıklamasını da düşünemedim. Bana çok ilginç yada faydalı bir şey gibi gelmedi açıkçası
@@joyofelectronics9782 yok özellikle lityum iyon pillerde dendtrit oluşumunu baskıladığına yönelik bir kaç makale gözüme çarpmıştı. ayrıca süperkapasitörlerde pilin gücünde bir miktar artış sağlandığına yönelik bir kaç makale okumuştum. Mantık elektrolitteki negatif ve pozitif iyonların yerdeğiştirmesi sırasında manyetik alan etkisini kullanmak olduğu aklımda kalmış.
The container he's using for plasticizer is "Nivea Soft Moisturizing Crème Body, Face and Hand Cream". glycerine and dimethicone would probably be the plasticisers
Hello, I’ve been following your incredible videos on supercapacitors and truly admire your expertise. My client is exploring large-scale supercapacitor manufacturing, and your insights could be invaluable. Specifically, we’re curious about scalability (large units vs. clusters), real-world performance vs. traditional batteries, and challenges in production. Would you be open to a quick discussion? Looking forward to your response!
i wish more people just shared what they invent without a patent pot of gold in their eyes, and society just showered them with the riches instead for being a hero. well for inventions that are of the caliber of life and routine changing.
HINT: Apply different loads to the battery and check the current, also with this method can be calculated the internal resistance of the battery for each load
Dünkü yorumda sorduğum cevabı aldığıma çok memnun oldum. Keşke bir teşekkür etseydin dostum. Neyse sağlık olsun sen patentle uğraşmaya devam et ben yardımcı olmaya çalışacağım nacizane elimden geldiğince. Kırgınlık yok. Sordum ve cevabımı aldım ellerine sağlık. Bir fikrim daha var ama yine patent falan alırsın diye paylaşmıyorum onun patentinide ben alayım bari :). Tebrikler...
Ha bu arada bu pile potasyum hidroksit eklerseniz daha yüksek güce ulaşabilirsiniz patent başvuruna bunuda mutlaka ekle dostum. Bakırı bir miktar aşındırabilir pilin çevrim sayısından ödün verebilirsiniz.Bu arada yaptığın pil doğru elektrolit oranında 1000 çevrimlere çok rahat ulaşacaktır.Ellerine sağlık tebrik ediyorum.
Kardeşim benim aşk olsun. Amma dert yanmışsın 😀 aslında ben bu projemi yapmıştım. Sen dün sorunca tam denk geldi üzerine. Bende bu video ile cevap vermek istedim sana süpriz olsun diye. Kırılmak gücenmek be demek sen ve fikirlerin önemli benim için ve seviliyorsun kardeşim❤️
@@ozgurkaygisiz1562 potasyum hidroksiti denedim kardeşim bakır oksit ve demir oksitle çok fazla reaksiyon verdi pil çok kısa ömürlü oldu. Uzun zamandır bu pilin üzerinde çalışıyorum. Belki 50 den fazla farklı malzeme ile denedim. En iyi sonucu bu verdi kardeşim.
@@joyofelectronics9782 yok gerçekten kırılmadım. Fikrimin cevabını para harcatmadan verdin memnun oldum bunun için. Birkaç değişiklik eklerseniz gerçekten bu pil ticari bir hal alır. İlk Tavsiyem Potasyum hidroksite geçmen olurdu. doğru elektrolit çozeltisini bularak bakır akım toplayıcıları korumayı başarabilirsin birkaç teste bakar bu. Demir oksit boyayı daha kalın uygulamakta başka bir çözüm. Ayrıca bence Bakır oksit yerine çinko oksit kullanmalısın nedeni ise o elektroda ciddi bir saldırı var. Senin elektrolitin Bakır oksidin reaksiyonu sonucunda bakır hidroksite evriliyor şarj olduğunda. Bakır hidroksitin şarj sırasında tekrar bakır elektroda kaplanmasındansa ben çinko tercih ederdim onun bakır elektroda kaplanması daha kolay olurdu buda daha yüksek deşarj akımları demek . Ama dendrit sorunları başlayabilir bunun çözümü kolay elektrolit içerisine 1 küp şeker eklemen sorunu ortadan kaldırır. Deneyip bir video daha çekermisin vaktin olursa.Ama patentsiz olsun lütfen :) Antalyadan selamlar kardeşim
@@ozgurkaygisiz1562şu anda elimde çinko oksit yok kardeşim. Temin edince vakit bulunca denemeye çalışacağım. Bu arada kırılmamış olmana sevindim😀sevgiler istanbuldan
It’s a great job man , but I think in charging you reversed the electrodes, by the way I am sure the copper oxide is a good cathod material and I hardly work to develope a battery since 5 years. Now I am in very advanced stage and I hope I get it 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
It would work a bit better if you use iron powder and copper hydroxide. Discharge forms iron 3 hydroxide and copper, charge forms copper hydroxide and iron. Electrolyte would be a base. Also mixing graphite into the copper layer would greatly improve current output. About 1.2V per serving ❤
It would last longer and maybe a small amp increase but too improve volt n amps properly you want too focus more on small/medium size and say make 24 individual ones or so and series 8 together do 3 sets off 8 in series too create 12v then put those 3 sets in parralel and you will triple the amp power you manage too achieve per cell....make a safe box too put them in....this is one way
i like this accurate measurements "can you see how fast is motor running?" xD Ampere volts watt hours that the measurements xD maybe I'll test that for real some day to count this power not only see
actually this is not a battery. of course this stores amount of energy. but it is a pseudo-capacitor which is again some what old technology but still researching on it......
Peace be upon you, I am an Arab person and I do not speak the English language well, but I have translated some of your videos, but I have a question that I hope you can answer. We do not have sodium sulfur. Is there another material other than that? I mean, I want to make a battery in my home. I have tin foil, activated carbon, and graphite, but I do not have it. Sodium sulfur. Is there a substance other than that? Thank you
@@joyofelectronics9782 You bullshit people and ask what's going on. There was no room in the call center. If it's for fun, warn people. Too bad I wasted my time on several episodes of basically the same thing
this is the best video in the world.... im going to make lots of money in my village with this groundbreaking technology.... sucker, you could have made billions of money with your genius invention. now its free for all.... im going to call my battery Genesis.... and then there was light....
@@AntiperubahanDid you say cheaper material for Lithium battery ? The materials are expensive, toxic, extremely inflammable and explosive and above all with the 3.7V, you cannot prepare it at home or any standard environment !!! And I think it’s good to appreciate the work done by others!!!
@@Antiperubahanyou are mistaken brother. Lithium is not cheap. Moreover lithium and the electrolyte used in lithium ion batteries are not safe for environment and also those materials are scarce. Most importantly lithium ion batteries are highly flammable and not safe to use while my battery doesn’t have these drawbacks.
@@Antiperubahaniron o and copper oxide are much much more cheaper than lithium. And not only this the lithium salts and electrolytes in lithium ion batteries are pretty much expensive.
Greetings to you my friend from the Islamic Republic of Iran. 1.I really enjoyed your program. Your presentation was great. 2. Delete this video as soon as possible. 3. Get a patent pending very soon. 4. Document what you have in many ways possible, history of the idea, developmental process, pictures anything you can. 5. Date them. 6. Make a copy of everything you have. Put them in a safe place. 7. Put put the original ones in an envelope or box. 8. Mail them to your own address. Registered and certified. Make sure the box has a very clear post office stamped date on it. And mail it to yourself. 8. After You receive your documented envelope do not open it and keep it the way it is. In this way you can prove you had this idea before others. 9. Keep all envelope and your receipts in a safe place. 10. Never open the envelope unless you are at the presence of the patent office or a judge or legal authorities who can testify on your behalf. Wishing you all the best. Allaha Amanat.
@@joyofelectronics9782 You bullshit people and ask what's going on. There was no room in the call center. If it's for fun, warn people. Too bad I wasted my time on several episodes of basically the same thing
The chemistry is actually similar to Robert Smith demonstration of Copper - iron battery. Instead of using powder, he used a copper and iron sheets and formed the oxide layer by charging it. He was trying to show it as an improved Baghdad battery.
Honestly l haven’t watched his video yet. But it could be similar. I will watch the video soon.
@@joyofelectronics9782
He said it showed some promise, but he didn't elaborate anymore than that which was kinda disappointing. I am curious about the durability and energy density of it, perhaps, your version can shed some light on the topic ?
I believe I know why. He was a chemist. He had a battery he was trying to scale, he sold the company , signed an NDA so he could get it into production and surprise, the company he was working with killed the project. Just a theory but anytime that man is quiet on how something works be suspicious, because he is not quiet.
@@johnschneider931
He had many projects for a company. The only one i remembered that could not disclose the specifics was regarding a credit card size super capacitor.
As for the Copper-Iron (Baghdad) battery, he showed us it was built and tested it initially, but he didn't show the capacity, power density, or longevity....... I wanted to know if this type of battery was a viable replacement for Lead-acid.
@@joyofelectronics9782 Nice Baghdad Battery version. @gconol @johnschneider931 I dont know,... but what I heard was, that the battery dont work as promised (also from people which work thogeter). Also 10 min on google search,... you can find that all 5 companies from Rob dissolved via compulsory strike-off.
How long the battery will keep the charge without use.
As l have new invented the battery. I need longer time to test it👍 but its performance is pretty good for now.
great one again
Good video, shown patiently
Fantastic
Hi , I would like to give a useful tip for any future electrical project that you may share on YT .
when we talk about electricity , we get involved with Volts and Amperage . So people who will watch your video will want to know the result getting out of it .
If you want to have more subscribers and Likes ( which is your main goal here ) Then you must show not only some volts , but the current that it gives ( Speaking about this battery here ) .
the best way to do a real nicely presented project , Edit useless time consuming for your viewers like for example 5 mns of mixing something , painting or manipulation the mini mixer to power it , etc etc . I would have solder some wire and clamp off camera and some support for the mixer and motor .
All this will add a more professional touch to your valuable project . Yes I said VALUABLE project , cause it can really help others to give a try and who knows that people maybe will want you to build some for them and most of all PAY for it .
OFF topic : I am actually making a small solar project to be used in an Hydroponic lettuce culture . and I don`t want to buy expensive batteries to make experiences .
So I wanted to build a huge lead acid battery out of scrap ones .I shall reuse the neg plates and convert some of them to pos plates .
When I say a huge battery I am talking about something around a square meter large by 50 cms high .
I knew nothing about batteries a month ago and I have learn a lot on videos like yours .
This off topic was just to tell you how valuable people like you can be .🙂🙂
Thanks for the tips
i would like you to test your batteries and caps with the amp function on your multimeter, to see the current load and also to measure the total W/h of the batteries =) can you test it this way? nicely done, are you sure you are the first to invent this type of battery? cheers
You cannot do what you just did if you wanted to secure your invention with a patent. Once you put it out here on UA-cam you gave up your claim to a patent. You have placed it in public the "public domain!" Just a simple demonstration puts it into the public domain and you showed your formula in clear detail and then went on to show how to build it! This is where pride gets you. The bottom line, you blew your chance to make a great amount of money with it. How many other of your inventions have you done this to?
Very true and I can also attest to this truth. The ONLY way you could've protected yourself was to get your battery in patent pending status which is A LOT more inexpensive as it's not actually issued the full patent yet. This allows you to test, produce, and even sell your product in the market for about a year before the patent pending status expires or you file for the actual patent, which costs thousands for just the US alone. Worldwide patent will cost you even way more than that. Because you showed how to make it too, ANYONE can copy and sell this without your permission until you actually have a patent issued and not just patent pending. Once it's been issued, then if anyone tries to sell it any further from that point, you can sue them for patent infringement.
I know for sure he has just shown the top of the iceberg!! There is more than meets the eyes!!!
Yeah, "please don't use this for commercial purposes"...Chinese megacorps do not care about a little disclaimer. They already steal stuff that is patented, if it's not it's free real estate.
Actually, it has to be in the public domain for 1 year or longer to be invalid for patent filing.
If I remember correctly, that is.
A lawsuit over patent infraction would be $1M or more so patents kinda useless, not to mention the darker side of how parents can be frozen by the patent office
Do you want to know who actually invented this type of battery? I did, and I documented this back in January 2004! I have been willing to work with this "Joy of Electronics" guy because I think he is a smart guy to invent things I have since I was in my mid teen years. The problem is that I have given him an olive branch more than once and he didn't accept my humble offer. Either way, I'm ok with this. I've invented a few inventions in my lifetime. I'm now 63 in July of this year. The first product I will be offering is what is being called "graphene." It's not what everyone is saying it is. I can process it from a mineral ore more efficiently and very cheaply. If anyone here is interested I will send you a 4 oz. sample for 1/3rd of the present cost that it is presently being charged for in US dollars.
Dear Radioionics.. writing from İstanbul, do you have inf about supercapacitors with self cooling ??
@@itt1957 I have discovered how to make "graphene" super cheaply with a simple process that takes less than a half hour of my time. It is extremely pure and starts off with a simple ore type that is easy for me to obtain. I will be able to make a large amount of it once I get the funding for the equipment and materials to upscale my process.
There is no “ore” with carbon enough inside. Unless you invented something else than carbon graphene
@@sc0or Au contrare my friend. I found this ore back in the year 1976. I knew I was odd. It took me around 50 years to realize what I have. To this day no one knows about this ore. I could find no reference to it anywhere. have sent 100 grams in powdered form to three people who are now working with it to turn it into batteries. It is just as good as what the univerisity idiots are calling graphene. It is a mineral that consists of pure graphene! You will soon find out about it when I offer it on eBay for a lot less than what graphene is going for these days. It will revolionize the electrical car industry and many more things.😊
Very instructive vidéo. Thanks very much !
great thanks dear sir
Early battery ("pile") experimenters naturally tried every possible combination of common materials around them (ESPECIALLY the conductive metals). How do you think electronegativity charts for the elements came about in the first place? The combinations that worked best as batteries or were most economical were naturally chosen for common use, and made famous. But there were so many other combinations that also yielded electricity! They were just not as practical for one reason or another, and eventually "forgotten". Bless your sheltered heart if you actually believe that nobody had ever thought of trying two of the most common metal powders known since antiquity. And it's hilarious (ok, also sad) that so many commenters accept the claim that you could've claimed such obviousness as an invention today.
Mostly what I notice are many of the common tricks used to get a video noticed on UA-cam - clickbaity title, exaggerated claims, piles of keywords for the search engines (including popular keywords that have nothing to do with the actual video, like "graphene"), and the sly suggestion that curious viewers will be let in on a "secret" for free - sssh! Don't try to profit from this 'new' idea! lololol
Obviously, that strategy is working for your channel, or the algorithm wouldn't have promoted it. Good thing I can tell UA-cam not to suggest more videos from channels that use lame deceptive tricks to get more views.
At best, it's still mostly an educational DIY, could be made as part of a science fair project comparing with more common battery chemistries. Maybe kids will learn something, repeating Enlightenment-era experiments in the 21st century.
I have made a longstanding research and l haven’t seen any battery project with these two materials.
Yh but it works...so the video is not pointless...any cheap made or pottentially even free batteries even If you have too make 50 off them and series and parralel them n put in a container too achieve a 12v workable battery then the video is not a waist and nor are any like it ...
Hey, I liked your battery video, mate. Question Could you use, say, 'Nylon instead of paper and Agur mixed with Sodium Hydroxide as the Electrolyte then use Silk Screen for all thick Ink or Paste for Copper Foil? Also, could you use Aluminum Foil instead of Copper Foil? Maybe change over to Table Salt? Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with me. 😊
Thanks brother. I think you had better to experimented those materials. I made a lot of experiments with the battery but this is the best result l got up to now. 😊
Aluminum foil would eat through in no time at all. But cleaned soda cans would last a little longer, like in a bleach, copper, aluminum battery.
Using regular table salt wouldn’t have the same destructive outcomes of the Hydroxide he was using though. It would be so much cheaper to use Aluminum over Copper and could be designed and really made anywhere. Like you mentioned earlier, Aluminum Cans could be used. This Battery already exists now. What he has designed is in use now. This is the reason I asked him about this. Thank you for your comment.
Nice proof of concept :-) Thanks for sharing!
Some more details would be interesting to know:
How much capacity has the battery?
How about self discharge and number of possible charging cycles?
Many greetings from Germany
Thanks brother. Let me give detail informations. If the surface area of the battery will be 750 cm^2 the measures will be like this;
Capacity: 1800 mAh
Operating voltage: 1.6 V
Max output current: 2.1 Amp
Charging voltage and current: 2.2 volts with 0.6 A
Charging cycle : more than 10,000 times (not proofed yet, just estimated)
Self discharge rate: 1.2% per day
@@joyofelectronics9782 that was a very fast response 😃👍. The overall specs are not bad for a self made battery! Thanks for the information.
How did you estimate the cycles to be 10,000? Which equation did you use?
@@kazeem-mustaphaafter more than twenty time charge the battery l look through the electrodes and examine them and accordingly l made an estimation.
I think you got the area of the electrodes wrong; 25cm x 6cm = 150cm2 not 750cm2. Otherwise, 2.1Amps for 750cm2 is damn too small amount of maximum current for a battery of 750cm2 electrode size
Super! Thank you very much!
Thanks brother
what is waterproofing paint, what does it contain? excellent video by the way
Thanks brother. It’s a kind of plastisize material
*Can it melt copper wire like your powerful lead acid cell???*
No brother the output current is not that much high
@@joyofelectronics9782 Thanks. I really like the amperage of your lead battey!!!
thank you very much dear sir, can you state why did you choose the oxides form instead of the pure metals and what are the expected reactions on each electrode?
Earlier in the video you noted that the positive terminal by sniping off some of the terminal. then when you hooked up the charge cables the other terminal as being positive and hooked the positive charge cable to it and proceeded. was there a reason for that. thank you.
I was mistaken to determine the terminal at first and l told that in the video😊
He even connected the multimeter the wrong way, and it showed on the screen that he had it reverse polarity. LoL
@@mouldykev no, it was not wrong. Before changing the voltage is reverse. Simply copper oxide is the positive electrode.
I have seen this before. Great demonstration. Make views my friend. Bagdad battery
Nice one brother 😊
super!
quel oxide de fer utilises-tu? il semble noir sur la video...Fe2O4?
le CuO a des propriétés thermoélectriques, si tu poses ta batterie sur un coté chaud/un coté froid elle peut partiellement se charger?
Thank you for the amazing practical algorithm battery creation.
Have you tried mixing oxides with PVA glue?
I would use one of theese on cheap solar garden lights
I have been running one with alkaline battery and it still going strong after a few months
dostum pillere mıknatıs uygulandığında kapasitelerinde bir artış gözlendiğini gösteren birkaç makale okumuştum. Bu pilinde bir elektrodu mükemmel manyetik özellik gösteren bir demir oksit malzemesinden yapıldı. Bu pille mıknatıs deneyleri yapma şansın varmı.Örneğin manyetik alan etkisi altında çıkış voltajı veya akımı etkileniyormu? Buna bakma şansın olursa ve bilgilendirirsen çok sevinirim.
Burada kullandığım demir oksit manyetik özelliği plan manyetit değil kardeşim. Bahsettiğin fenomeni biliyorum bende denedim daha önce ama kayda değer bir artış göremedim ben açıkçası. Mantıklı bir açıklamasını da düşünemedim. Bana çok ilginç yada faydalı bir şey gibi gelmedi açıkçası
@@joyofelectronics9782 yok özellikle lityum iyon pillerde dendtrit oluşumunu baskıladığına yönelik bir kaç makale gözüme çarpmıştı. ayrıca süperkapasitörlerde pilin gücünde bir miktar artış sağlandığına yönelik bir kaç makale okumuştum. Mantık elektrolitteki negatif ve pozitif iyonların yerdeğiştirmesi sırasında manyetik alan etkisini kullanmak olduğu aklımda kalmış.
my bro.plz use lithium hydrovide and potassium hydroxide mix for best resault.and by the way what is water proofing paint?
where do you get these chemicals
On internet
Merhaba bu pil tekrar şarj edilebiliyor mu?
Evet şarjedilebilir bir pildir.
Merhaba Joy of electronics. Will it also work by using thicker Aluminumfoil
Yes
Thanks for sharing, I have a question that How much cycle life, do you expect from this?
It’s a disposable battery. You can use it over about four hours.
The container he's using for plasticizer is "Nivea Soft Moisturizing Crème Body, Face and Hand Cream". glycerine and dimethicone would probably be the plasticisers
There is nothing to do with the container and the material inside it. The material is water proofing paint.
battery or capacitor?
It’s a battery
@@joyofelectronics9782 battery have different electrodes, one - one +. capacitor have same material electrodes.
Hi Friend You have not told any thing about the Electrolyte. Its NaOH electrolyte or any thing else ?
I told
@@joyofelectronics9782 Thanks I got it
@@joyofelectronics9782 Thanks a lot its there in video only. Thanks once again
Why you haven’t cover the tow surface of coper foil it will be strongler
I'm gonna make a billion dollars with this design and not even give you any chicken or melon.
Hello, I’ve been following your incredible videos on supercapacitors and truly admire your expertise. My client is exploring large-scale supercapacitor manufacturing, and your insights could be invaluable. Specifically, we’re curious about scalability (large units vs. clusters), real-world performance vs. traditional batteries, and challenges in production. Would you be open to a quick discussion? Looking forward to your response!
why H2O2? it's an oxydizer while muriatic acid is a solvent(for CuO)
i wish more people just shared what they invent without a patent pot of gold in their eyes, and society just showered them with the riches instead for being a hero. well for inventions that are of the caliber of life and routine changing.
Can u make all solid state battery with solid curremt collector solid elecyrolyte and solid active materialz?
😊 if l could do these all l would be a multimillionaire 😀
@@joyofelectronics9782 not always its about money ,but how it will work if u really made it !
HINT: Apply different loads to the battery and check the current, also with this method can be calculated the internal resistance of the battery for each load
Dünkü yorumda sorduğum cevabı aldığıma çok memnun oldum. Keşke bir teşekkür etseydin dostum. Neyse sağlık olsun sen patentle uğraşmaya devam et ben yardımcı olmaya çalışacağım nacizane elimden geldiğince. Kırgınlık yok. Sordum ve cevabımı aldım ellerine sağlık. Bir fikrim daha var ama yine patent falan alırsın diye paylaşmıyorum onun patentinide ben alayım bari :). Tebrikler...
Ha bu arada bu pile potasyum hidroksit eklerseniz daha yüksek güce ulaşabilirsiniz patent başvuruna bunuda mutlaka ekle dostum. Bakırı bir miktar aşındırabilir pilin çevrim sayısından ödün verebilirsiniz.Bu arada yaptığın pil doğru elektrolit oranında 1000 çevrimlere çok rahat ulaşacaktır.Ellerine sağlık tebrik ediyorum.
Kardeşim benim aşk olsun. Amma dert yanmışsın 😀 aslında ben bu projemi yapmıştım. Sen dün sorunca tam denk geldi üzerine. Bende bu video ile cevap vermek istedim sana süpriz olsun diye. Kırılmak gücenmek be demek sen ve fikirlerin önemli benim için ve seviliyorsun kardeşim❤️
@@ozgurkaygisiz1562 potasyum hidroksiti denedim kardeşim bakır oksit ve demir oksitle çok fazla reaksiyon verdi pil çok kısa ömürlü oldu. Uzun zamandır bu pilin üzerinde çalışıyorum. Belki 50 den fazla farklı malzeme ile denedim. En iyi sonucu bu verdi kardeşim.
@@joyofelectronics9782 yok gerçekten kırılmadım. Fikrimin cevabını para harcatmadan verdin memnun oldum bunun için. Birkaç değişiklik eklerseniz gerçekten bu pil ticari bir hal alır. İlk Tavsiyem Potasyum hidroksite geçmen olurdu. doğru elektrolit çozeltisini bularak bakır akım toplayıcıları korumayı başarabilirsin birkaç teste bakar bu. Demir oksit boyayı daha kalın uygulamakta başka bir çözüm. Ayrıca bence Bakır oksit yerine çinko oksit kullanmalısın nedeni ise o elektroda ciddi bir saldırı var. Senin elektrolitin Bakır oksidin reaksiyonu sonucunda bakır hidroksite evriliyor şarj olduğunda. Bakır hidroksitin şarj sırasında tekrar bakır elektroda kaplanmasındansa ben çinko tercih ederdim onun bakır elektroda kaplanması daha kolay olurdu buda daha yüksek deşarj akımları demek . Ama dendrit sorunları başlayabilir bunun çözümü kolay elektrolit içerisine 1 küp şeker eklemen sorunu ortadan kaldırır. Deneyip bir video daha çekermisin vaktin olursa.Ama patentsiz olsun lütfen :) Antalyadan selamlar kardeşim
@@ozgurkaygisiz1562şu anda elimde çinko oksit yok kardeşim. Temin edince vakit bulunca denemeye çalışacağım. Bu arada kırılmamış olmana sevindim😀sevgiler istanbuldan
It’s a great job man , but I think in charging you reversed the electrodes, by the way I am sure the copper oxide is a good cathod material and I hardly work to develope a battery since 5 years. Now I am in very advanced stage and I hope I get it 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Provavelmente barata de fazer
It would work a bit better if you use iron powder and copper hydroxide. Discharge forms iron 3 hydroxide and copper, charge forms copper hydroxide and iron. Electrolyte would be a base. Also mixing graphite into the copper layer would greatly improve current output. About 1.2V per serving ❤
Between this electrolyte of yours and aluminum chloride +urea has high energy, buts cool though.
Chemistry... you know as much about it as my grandmother did in 1939, when the Germans gassed her in X :P
What if you made one the size of a 5 gallon bucket ? Would it last any longer ? More power output ? :O)
It would last longer and maybe a small amp increase but too improve volt n amps properly you want too focus more on small/medium size and say make 24 individual ones or so and series 8 together do 3 sets off 8 in series too create 12v then put those 3 sets in parralel and you will triple the amp power you manage too achieve per cell....make a safe box too put them in....this is one way
i like this accurate measurements "can you see how fast is motor running?" xD Ampere volts watt hours that the measurements xD maybe I'll test that for real some day to count this power not only see
actually this is not a battery. of course this stores amount of energy. but it is a pseudo-capacitor which is again some what old technology but still researching on it......
Peace be upon you, I am an Arab person and I do not speak the English language well, but I have translated some of your videos, but I have a question that I hope you can answer. We do not have sodium sulfur. Is there another material other than that? I mean, I want to make a battery in my home. I have tin foil, activated carbon, and graphite, but I do not have it. Sodium sulfur. Is there a substance other than that? Thank you
Whit the fully charged battery you could actually turn on your phone, boot it up but it will go off before you could unlock your phone
I value my culture and that of other wonderful countries. But I hate cheating!
What is your exact point?
@@joyofelectronics9782 You bullshit people and ask what's going on. There was no room in the call center. If it's for fun, warn people. Too bad I wasted my time on several episodes of basically the same thing
Iron oxide will be a poor conductor of electricity? Interesting. It may be iron filing …
When you talk about a battery the conductivity of the active materials are not very crucial.
@@joyofelectronics9782 so the electrolyte is more important? I have nickel hydroxides at hand should work
this is the best video in the world.... im going to make lots of money in my village with this groundbreaking technology.... sucker, you could have made billions of money with your genius invention. now its free for all.... im going to call my battery Genesis.... and then there was light....
I hope you will not do this brother.
😀this must be a complete joke
@@AntiperubahanDid you say cheaper material for Lithium battery ? The materials are expensive, toxic, extremely inflammable and explosive and above all with the 3.7V, you cannot prepare it at home or any standard environment !!! And I think it’s good to appreciate the work done by others!!!
@@Antiperubahanyou are mistaken brother. Lithium is not cheap. Moreover lithium and the electrolyte used in lithium ion batteries are not safe for environment and also those materials are scarce. Most importantly lithium ion batteries are highly flammable and not safe to use while my battery doesn’t have these drawbacks.
@@Antiperubahaniron o and copper oxide are much much more cheaper than lithium. And not only this the lithium salts and electrolytes in lithium ion batteries are pretty much expensive.
Why are subtitles not available on UA-cam?
I use volcanic saliva to make patria
it should be available. maybe there is a temporar problem.
Greetings to you my friend from the Islamic Republic of Iran.
1.I really enjoyed your program. Your presentation was great.
2. Delete this video as soon as possible.
3. Get a patent pending very soon.
4. Document what you have in many ways possible, history of the idea, developmental process, pictures anything you can.
5. Date them.
6. Make a copy of everything you have. Put them in a safe place.
7. Put put the original ones in an envelope or box.
8. Mail them to your own address. Registered and certified. Make sure the box has a very clear post office stamped date on it. And mail it to yourself.
8. After You receive your documented envelope do not open it and keep it the way it is. In this way you can prove you had this idea before others.
9. Keep all envelope and your receipts in a safe place.
10. Never open the envelope unless you are at the presence of the patent office or a judge or legal authorities who can testify on your behalf.
Wishing you all the best. Allaha Amanat.
Thanks brother🙏
😊
I suggest to make a stirrer. I made one using old ventilator from copy machine. It was 12V but to slow it down I use it with 5-5.5V.
I value my culture and that of other wonderful countries. But I hate cheating!
What is your point?
@@joyofelectronics9782 You bullshit people and ask what's going on. There was no room in the call center. If it's for fun, warn people. Too bad I wasted my time on several episodes of basically the same thing