Beaking out some concrete for a pieced-together hack job
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- In this video I beak out some concrete using The Beak
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Glad to see the videos dropping again!
Thank you!
Brian’s your buddy ..do the removal and leave..his problem then..or refuse to do it. I probably would refuse to do a patch job as a sub.
@@mikeknoll1130 that’s exactly what I did… beaked out the concrete and took off
Fix the drainage issue, then mud jack under the hollow part of the driveway?
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Too late for the mud jack. They should have had that done in the first place
@@IntegraDIY Drainaige always comes first.
This is why they say "it is expensive to be poor". I live in a modest neighborhood. Across the street is a lake with million dollar homes. They can save much more money, by exercising their money, to do it right the first time. Save up and plan for it!
I tend to agree elgin. Just do it right
A lot of truth in this statement. Hard pill to swallow but even tougher to pay for it twice.
Fixing jobs like that are very hard, I WOULD NOT guarantee this work to the owner on the lower section of the drive-way.
I love how irritated you seemed with the “pieced together hack job”.
I would be too leaving another $10k on the table
Must be hard to work on this job knowing there’s going to be an “I told you so. “ Ugh. RUN Shawn !!
Haha for sure! Even though I was just doing the concrete removal I still felt bad about it.
13:00 Your Passenger side Brake Light is out...
Better fix it before a DoT Trooper looking to make Quota sees it...
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Yeah I was about to say it as well... He might already know by now after the work, looking at it, and doing the video's, etc...
It never ceases to amaze me at just how much weight, and the size of the pieces the beak can pick up. That is one tough little device, and very handy too. Great video Shawn, i hope this homeowner can find the funds to fix this issue properly, and hopefully you can get involved and fix their drainage issues as well, because it looks like they do have some drainage issues. Also you are really good at those machines! i'm pretty competent on a bobcat, but i probably would have slid down that muddy driveway at least once on the tracks, and probably hit the truck... Lol. Great work on the video too, i love the angles you get.
Most of the time, I like to think people would want to replace the whole thing so that it matches and you don't need to worry about it anymore, but the price of the job sometimes prevents that. What does a job like replacing the whole thing run in that area? I know up here in WNY, I got quoted $10k to replace four 8'x7' sections of concrete for my driveway. If pricing was the same there, replacing that whole driving would be quite expensive to the point where some people just might not be able to afford it for a bunch of reasons.
Were they able to get a concrete truck up that driveway to pour the top? I was thinking that would definitely crack it lol.
They used a concrete buggy, although I wasn't there for the pour
was i the only one that saw the brick crack at 10:53 ?
Nope.
The tiles are also hollow underneath and would have to be replaced anyway.
Yeah, one would assume the bricks were not connected to the concrete but they were bonded pretty good with a lip underneath
I saw the crack, it looked like it was there already but popped apart and became visible when the concrete was pulled away.
Another difficult to watch video. Right from the start, viewer knows situation will go from bad to worse.
I hope it wasn't too bad for you! 👍
Another great video Shawn! Hope all is well with you after the recent hurricane.
Yes it is Bruno thank you! I'm working on a members only video where I show the damage I had from the hurricane.
Members only? What about us patreon members? Haha. Glad to see another video.
As long as you are just there to demo, it's on them if they don't follow your advice.
It's true ricky, but I hate it anyway
Water is undermining that driveway.
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Love the content! At 14:20 I noticed a lot of play in your front idlers on the Mustang. Vid on checking/fixing those?
Sparky I just sold that machine recently. I liked it but I wasn't using it enough.
Shawn this is the first ever time I’ve seen a “hack job” on your channel - definitely not up to your standard.
I’d love to see you working with (and videoing) Mud-jackers on your channel - that would be a great learning video for us all.
Cheers and I’ll definitely see you on the next one!
Those springs on the dump truck were definitely "frowning" I noticed when it was pulling away. That's an ol' trucker term for a heavy load... LOL!
My first question is, where, is, that much, water coming from, #1, over flowing gutters
# 2 ,down spouts, direction of water.
#3, is the surface water being diverted, or blocked by something, like a brickwall.
#4, is the water being piped underground? If so , what tyoe of pipe was used, corrugated, or smooth. is the pipe pluged, broken.
My guess is the, water, was piped to the brickwall and stopoed. Or water was piped under ground, and.when building the brickwall, they broke the pipe, that put the water to the lowest points, thats under the cement, because the cement driveway, is higher than the ground, making, a dam. Thats a lot of water erosion. The cement driveway water is a big stretch, To be blamed for the erosion. A lot of investigation needs to be done.
I agree and that starts with tearing out the old concrete to make sure there are no pipes broken under there. I don't know if I'll be back on this one or not..
I understand money is tight right now but it’s cheaper in long run to do it all at once
For sure!
Homeowner should get it all done it's already breaking down in the end of the video. As for the demolition, nice work with the right tools. I recall an over poured jacuzzi was the reason for the beak purchase. Love the channel. 👍
Great video
Should call unsolved mysteries to figure out whats going on under the driveway 🙂
Or tear up the cracked concrete and see what's up! haha
24:34 i think you could build a temporary ramp out of mud to avoid chipping the slab
I absolutely could have, which is the point. Why do so much extra work to be cheap?
@@GCFD In the long term it's more expensive. All these small jobs add up, and the end result looks like crap.
@@GCFD why do so much extra work? Maybe to keep a good reputation? The concrete edge cracked, the brick walkway cracked, there was no rebar or mesh visible before the pour. Was any reinforcement used?
The Beak is a great accessory and perfect for the concrete slab removal. With today's money becoming nearly worthless I really can't blame the home owners not wanting to spend ridiculous amounts on a driveway. It's not the fault of the contractors having to charge so much. Contractors and suppliers are also hit hard by the mismanagement or purposeful destruction of the economy.
Back in the 80's I rented a house with a steep driveway like that. Always parked at the bottom on the grass. A few months after I moved out the landlord's Ford van fell out of PARK like most automatic Fords did back then and went barreling down the driveway into the house across the street. The van went halfway through the house. Never live in a place with a ridiculously steep drive way.
I agree Paul! I was asked to put in a french drain at a house once with a steep driveway. I got to the job with my excavator and I was so terrified just tracking the excavator up the driveway that I declined the whole job. I couldn't even drive my ex up the driveway without being terrified.
We all get in these situations.
If it’s for builders, or developers I usually say no.
Because they blame you with the owner.
If it’s the owner and have a set of requirements , not too concerned, and say yes.
Cheers from Oz
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34:00 Man.. what a headache. Way too much work dealing with a penny pinching customer and Brian is seeing that first hand. I wonder how much time he's spent on the phone and figuring out a "cheap" way to solve an issue thats really not that complicated. Dig it all up, fix the water intrusion issue and have a better base done so it isnt poured on clay! Do it right or dont do it at all. Please keep us updated and thank you for going back to see that it indeed cracked.
I think Bryan will do another patch job even though I think he has more important things to do...
Even with Air Brakes, ALWAYS CHOCK THE TIRES WHEN LOADING OR UNLOADING ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ON A SLOPE!!!
Those springs are the PARKING brakes, nothing more, they are not strong enough to safely and reliably hold the truck in place against the forces exerted by the loading/unloading equipment and the shifting mass of the load...Not to mention that it's ONLY the Drive Axles that have the Spring Brakes, the Steer Axles don't...
I should know, I was a Commercial Truck Driver for 10 VERY long years...
You dont inspect the truck a the morning....brake light burn....😂
Yea that light pops out on the dump cycle....
I'd be shocked if you cracked the sloped section of concrete with the Track-Loader...
It's tracks give it a surface contact area at least 30 times more than the Home Owner's car has and the Machine only weighs (at most) 6-8 times what the car likely does so even with a full beak of concrete, you very likely have a LOWER Ground Pressure than the car does...
Now, if you'd backed the Dump Truck farther up the driveway, THEN I'd be worried about punching a wheel through the slab...
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Great content! Nice angles Shawn!
As said in other comments, It's expensive to be poor, and try to cut corners, I oughta know myself, haha. And I see it in my own customers all the time.
Tough job Shawn...good thing you only had a piece of it. Homeowners were told repeatedly what they needed to do and they chose the hack job. Brian was the prime and as such the main face to the customer. Apparently the customer is ok paying twice. What's sad is the real problem, the water flowing under the slab isn't fixed. As a sub, you did what you could to be trueful and upfront and that's all you can do.
To hack job anyways I mean, they didn’t even put any rock down first. They put the pavement directly on mud.
Hey, Shawn, i wanted to ask you something.
Here in Germany, we have what's called Waschbeton. It's concrete with river stone and the first layer of concrete is washed off so the pebbles would appear. It's way nicer than smooth concrete IMHO. Is that not a thing there at all? I've never seen you doing one of those surfaces.
You got a good work reputation, don’t ruin it by taking on hack jobs
For sure George! This was just the demo for Bryan
This is the reason my driveway is ugly... Previous owners did a lot of patchwork, and I'm not living here for much longer than a couple years.
Sorry Shawn, but after hearing your initial explanation around the 3-minute mark I'd have been GONE! Simply not worth it. I was also going to comment that the pad with the hollow spot WAS going to crack and soon. It was sort of satisfying to see that it happened in this video.
The best solution for jobs like this is poly foam. It's relatively cheap and easy to use.
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As easy as it is to critisize the home owners I always think of a saying we have here in The Netherlands: "You can't see in someone else's wallet". Sometimes people simply have other pressing obligations. Anyway I enjoyed the video as always.
The more pressing issue is the erosion going on underneath the concrete. Could that be mitigated with a clay soil berm? Or perhaps a narrow swale to redirect the water away from that cavern? They didn't have that problem up at the top to the dangerous extend the driveway has. All it takes is a hurricane dumping water for that to become a complete disaster.
The thing about doing a job right: if it's done right the first time, you don't have to call back to have them come out to fix what should have been fixed. Now it's going to cost more for doing less. If I was a contractor, I wouldn't agree to it. When they've amassed the money to take care of the job correctly, then they can call... and they will be calling bc they're going to go the cheap route with an unscrupulous contractor who doesn't care and they'll be calling me to fix what will end up costing what I'd estimated for them in the first place.
I think you should look at the 2018-2019 free LIDAR on the National Maps to determine what the size of that water-shed is, then force the homeowner to meet the needs of the GPMs of the Rational Method or you guarantee nothing. So if they need a 10 inch corrugated installed to get the water down the hill then they need to order a roll.
Grab the chunks & go is about all you can do ( as you mentioned) i'm sure Brian deals with Stress handlingalll the clients w the concrete & all, + for the camera angles as always... Best wishes for the storms & any fallout for that
Perhaps next time a breakdown dollar for dollar doing only the top and as you expected the whole drive for slightly more. I don't know how it is you can break it down. Also, I wondered how it is they wouldn't use the drive way and park outside the turn around. That just doesn't make sense to me. Pouring rain and they would rather walk down the drive way and down the street to their vehicles.
Shawn the driveway is the swail. Look at the circle road it's all cracked. Besides settling the water has no where to go. I did not see a storm drain but of course i didn't see the cul de sac. The contactor could fix or provide drainage on the side of the driveway french or other wise, and use the concrete as a barrier. Also wiht the concrete recycle around the corner is there an abundant supply of crusher run or PAC! Like you said you were the removal guy.
Yup much cheaper and the price of concrete keeps going up.
Have you considered carrying a length of 4x4 timber to lay in front of the cut after you have removed the broken section? It might reduce the risk of damaging the cut edge as the skidsteer climbs over it.
YUK! Well as long as the customer is aware that the price quoted is because equipment is onsite. Maybe having the line items address that on the quote, that is all you can do.
That's enough slope for some corrugated. They should pump in that bentonite clay to stop the water under the pavement, though IDK if it would swell.
I would tend to advise a client what I thought the solution to the problem was. If they didn't agree, or tried to suggest a cheaper way to do it, that wasn't a real solution, I would decline the job. I've just never been a fan of "being cheap".
This actually turned out to be a great opportunity for you to educate people about why property owners should not expect a professional to do a job in this manner. The homeowners even knew what the most pressing issue was but still insisted on cosmetic work instead.
What is the cost difference aprox?
You already have the manpower and equipment etc
Buy once, cry once
Nothing wrong with pouring just the broken pieces as long as the homeowner is ok with how it looks. Definitely should have talked the homeowners into filling in that undermined hole while you were there the first time though.
Another interesting project! Sometimes the homeowners might not realize the cost savings of doing it at one time and like you said having all your resources there just one time.
why on earth would you run a piece of equipment on an exposed edge like that? at least use plywood or a steel mat? that is not smart at all.
Build a ramp out of some of the dirt
Weight distribution is better on a tracked vehicle than a wheeled one(a car).
That's the exact point! Why do more work for less? Why create problems that shouldn't exist in the first place? Why be responsible for something that shouldn't even be a thing. That's the whole point of this video timothy 👍
Not a sensible choice for the home-owner, but maybe they can't get their heads around what the actual problem is
I can see why you do not use rebar there. Expensive to put in when a customer piece meals things out and 3 times harder to tear out when you have to fix it.
Mudjacking company could fill the void under the slab.
The customer is not always right. There are jobs worth not doing. Not putting your name out there associated with bad jobs. If a customer wants a half ass job, then they need to hire a half ass contact. Like you said at this point, it is already costing her more money.
I totally agree. Even though I was just doing the demo on this job, I still worried about it for Bryan.
get your beek on! LOL
I would love to do more beaking for sure!
Great information! You had some great camera angles!
Great video and editing, definitely agree that it’s hard to even have your name associated with a hack job like this. Thanks for the upload Sean
I’m so so happy your back sure missed y’all these last few months 😊
Gotta love expansive soil types and skipping the 8 inches of road base step.
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I would have told them find someone else to do the job if us aren’t doing everything
IMO if I was the home owner I would have just done the whole drive way at once including fixing the drainage around the drive way what a waste.
For sure!
7:55 high trust society
It's called living in a good area 😂 In Washington that truck would be gone in 2.5 seconds after walking away
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You need to dig the whole thing up start again or it will happen again
You're not fan of foam to refill under concrete ?
Walk away. You're gonna get grief for it later.
Some people cant be talked sense into. They need to fix drainage and water flow issues and should have done the entire job in one go. Do it right once and be set for many years if they cant afford it set up a payment plan or have them take out a loan.
Bad foundation work to get washed out that easy
it is terrible to do piece jobs, just do it all at one time.
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Glad to see the videos dropping again!
Customers should be patient and save the money to have the whole drive done at once. You did good here Sean
Save money?? You mean under Pedonomics? Can't afford to but food.
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You never showed us how the cement truck backed over that lower section to get the pour to the upper section. 🤔
It’s a Concrete truck, but they used a buggy to get the concrete up there, not the truck
15:59 What's the round drum looking thing between the tripod and the camera?
Thats a panning head
Instead of continuing to rag on the customer because they didn't want to do what you wanted, maybe consider that it just wasn't in their budget given our current dismal Bidenomics economy. Or, better yet, just refuse to do the job if it's that big of an issue. Not one of your better videos.
Correct . Take or leave it..bad to air such issue in the media , not very professional in my view . Shaun getting old snd grumpy lately ..😅😅😢😢😅😅
Love the Beak😀
Walk away.
Nice job
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As the saying goes: "The customer is always right... even when everyone else around em knows they're not!"
In considering the possibility the water is backing up under the slabs, why not drill a few 'relief', exploratory, holes in the middle of the driveway, where it starts to flatten out?
That way you can see IF water is pooling back up and then you and the contractor can explain to the customer how the patch job won't work in the long term.
Great quote!
Shawn, from what i have gathered about this job is the home owner making the decisions is a woman. I don't think she understands the situation or doesn't want to understand it. Good ridents!
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