I Modified the CHEAPEST Electric Dirt bike on Amazon
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- After I bought the cheapest electric dirtbike on amazon for $3500 I finally decided to Modify it to see if I can make it faster than the Most expensive electric Dirtbike, the ktm e free ride. the big question is can I modify the cheapest E dirtbike to out perform the KTM?
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God bless everyone and have a nice day and Jesus Christ loves you all and I do too and pray bye.
I have a Sur-Ron X, (the same core bike) and a business opportunity - For some reason literally nobody makes blinker / brake light kits for these things. I don't know why; the brake switches already have the necessary sensors; it's just a matter of throwing together a few different off the shelf components, packaging them up and calling it a day. Would you guys please make a video on wiring up some kind of blinker and brake kit that doesn't involve $12 ebay kits with wireless remotes? I'll even give you an upvote.
Datshop nyc is working on a plug and play light kit. It's similar to the one they make for the Onyx
@@iamaturdle1514 Put me on their waiting list! I'm a good beta tester.
@@jerkychew899 I've been pestering them about it for months. I've even offered to pay for a kit in full so that I can be the first to have it but they won't budge. I guess Onyx is more popular in NYC so they're prioritizing mods for Onyx before they start production on the Sur Ron light kits.
We just made a Sur-Ron wiring tutorial inspired by our DatShop Onyx lighting setup ua-cam.com/video/LjU-pi81Xik/v-deo.html
A ebikes Australian sells everything you will want
The little rubber oring on the fork is to indicate sag when setting the fork up. With a dh mtb fork like that it's probably meant to sit at about 30% sag when under rider weight. Not sure if that's a spring or air spring model, but you should be able to adjust the sag to get it into its optimal range. Yeah it will also show if you bottomed out, but you should already know if that's happening.
Hey Sean! I’ve been watching your channel since... forever lol and I just wanted to say how awesome you and your team are! I live in Pittsburgh PA so I need to make the drive to check out your shop sometime. Keep it up guys!
Test both on a downhill mountain bike trail and a motocross style track. The see how they do in each other's element.
they are gonna die lol
Neither can survive an actual dh mountain bike trail.
@@ididntseeaamvwiththissongs3472 ask your momma. They survived.
@@phillupondz ?
It beats neither unless there is a 10 meter deep puddle because these will swim.
That t-shirt every one needs a craig was hilarious.🤣🤣🤣
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I would prefer 'Everyone needs a Gary'
I love the sur-ron bikes! (Sur-ron/segway 95% same bike colors and a app is the difference)
But them lightspeed batteries 🔋 with a bac8000 your doing big things range should be around 50ish miles on a full charge as long as your not going WOT the whole time. Stock i get about 35 miles i have the sur-ron LBX same as the segway x260. LOVE IT! best buy i ever made hands down. There are sooooo many parts available for it. But pro tip. Do not buy any parts branded "sur-ron" (i would stay away from Lunacycle aswell)
But all the parts that have the sur-ron or segway *brand* on it are actually *zoom* but sur-ron puts their name on the part and chages the price from $5-$10 to $50-$60 lol true story just look up sur-ron replacement headlight you will fine they are around $50. Than look up zoom led headlight you will see they are actually $6!!!
So happy to see Craig back up and riding again. you all rock
Gary requires a "Doin It" sticker boys.
big facts big facts
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Your video made me wonder what that KTM would look like with road tires. It might win the break test that way as well. Gary would probably work perfectly if you mount all the mods you have but the looks need to be adjust on that bike... it still looks like a regular electric mountainbike.
If I remember correctly, the eSM is a thing. It's just really hard to get, or they stoped making them because the electric Hype wasn't there yet.
I bet it could look alot like all the ktm 690 supermoto's.
The video clip with the skinny motorcycle is one of my all time favorites when I need a good laugh!
5:42 the “o”ring is more for setting your sag for the correct adjustment setup(:
And also to check how much travel you used after a ride. If for example the sag is set right but you use not all travel you could remove one of the spacers inside the airchamber to make it less progressive and vice versa.
Not really, a lot of air shocks don't come with an o-ring because you can setup sag with a tape measure. That is how you do coil shocks, and any air shock can be done like this. There is really no other way to check if you're bottoming out though or how much travel you used. And for that reason I would say the o-ring is more useful for seeing how much travel you are using since you only setup your sag once in a while.
And o ring isn’t an accurate measurement of how much travel/travel as they tent to move while riding by force or mud hitting them. I tend to measure out a line with a dry erase marker, go for a ride and measure the stroke and adjust from there. I’ve been doing this for years and it’s way more accurate than the o ring so give that a go next time you’re all seeking up suspension in the future and let me know how you go?
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I use it to adjust so I bottom on the biggest jump at the course. My suspension guy told me that is how to set them up.
Go Gary Go!! Awesome guys.
Next test Do a hill climb if possible.
Stay Safe!
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I think one good idea with Gary would be get the best jackshaft style setup I'm guessing that's what it has because of the polarity of the motor but once you get that belt to stop slipping I would be interested in just seeing more videos after that is fixed that's a crazy accomplishment I literally said 67 miles an hour as the top speed just a matter of seconds before you hit 70 I know it was just a coincidence but I can't believe it was that close I feel like Gary with dirt tires is just as exciting as the KTM electric dirt bike
Been wanting this vid!!!
anyone that has ever worked on a motor totally understands Craig slamming the hammer and walking away
I thought the hammer was about to go to Jupiter
I have a few hammer head and handle shaped holes in the walls of my shop 😆 also the walls are all covered in 1/2 plywood for hanging shelving/pegboard, so those that made it through were just the *really* bad moments 😆👍
Hahaha hammer mechanic
Biggest jump test
Mud test
Hill climb test
Agility/handling test
Big jumps on the 160 would go very poorly with guys this size
The belt drive is there so that wen u let off the throttle it doesnt engine brake as bad. You can program the esc not to let the motor brake as bad. So keep that in mind.
Always enjoy your guys content and awesome to have a local UA-camr.
Hey Gary love the video and I learned lots of stuff as always! Both Bikes are amazing Honestly and seriously amazing! Here's the question is your cheapest ebike, still the cheapest even after you made all the updgras to make it faster, than the KTM? So is it under 12-15K or does it exceed 15K?
He is probably in around 6-7k. Keep in mind though, these tests are flawed. The KTM has magnitudes better suspension. The segway is essentially an electric MTB that happens to have a twist throttle versus the KTM being an actual dirtbike frame and suspension.
the Suron can be upgraded and you can also sell original parts if you want to make the upgrade cheaper. it's still cheaper than the ktn. once you upgrade the fork, brakes, that are pretty capable dirt bikes if you can do with the small size. it's a different kind of riding, more agile but not too the power of a 450 dirt bike. the original battery still has a lot of value. also you don't need to buy dozens of sprocket/chains etc.
You gotta watch out with the new BAC8000 controller, this thing can literally liquify a motor if not careful
if you decide to dump more than 13,000 watts into it lol
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Does the same to testicles
@@bHBullet i fragged a motor at 10kw....at 72mph...still had room to go faster..
Oh I could see Craig’s frustration, been there. Wish they brought in someone or at least consulted someone to help Craig that has experience with these, I think they would very impressed with it. Sean would love to help, A few do those issues could be addressed with a few tips like changing primary drive.
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Dang dude…didn’t know you lived in Lancaster! Cool stuff. I lived right in manheim before moving to palmyra. Fun video to watch. Thanks!
Bikes and Beards, I absolutely, love love love your videos!!!
been waiting for this vid
Is that Beef Testosterone
@@averagecarguy420 yes i love charles white
@@awgestkid nice
@@awgestkid moist
Guys, you need Surron XL Kit for the next mod.
You have the Pulse!!! The white enclosed motorcycle, I was obsessed with that bike!!!! I thought it was long gone!
Enjoyed that! Well made.
Those RST forks are one of the 1st things to get tossed for something better (fox 40s, Dorados, roxshox, dvo emeralds).
I got excited when I saw the DVO box. Thought for sure he was going to throw an Emerald on it.
Dummies bought literally the worst fork for it, I’ve heard the stock x160 fork is better. And the irony is it coming in a DVO box smh
Glad somebody said it
@@haydenharter6051 Ha, same here...wtf are those forks!
Yah I spent almost ten grand on a delfast top 3 and still had to upgrade the forks
sur rons are taking over. love to see it
this is sick Man ... Wow I love it 😀
Love the verses in between the videos brother! Keep going💪🏻
you got selected congratulation
Text the number above⬆️💌🥰
It's quite refreshing to see you guys run into problems and getting upset about it. I too have issues installing things sometimes so I know I am not alone. Love the knowledge you share in your vids. Keep em coming.
I remember when I installed my bar end mirrors on my bike and the mirrors just didn't want to get on the barends because the bar ends were 0.2mm too wide. Sanded both barends for 2 hours and ended up just hammering both pieces together. They won't be coming off one another tho :/ haha
I’m sure it also depends on your weight for speeds
Love your videos and your message! I would like to see Gary on a trials course :-)
When installing the new front axle shaft put a dot of blue lock tight and tighten to about 15 ft/lbs, or upgrade to the new green front axle that Luna cycles sell. I had to drill out two front axles that came with those forks, they are complete garbage and strip instantly.
Those forks are basically mountain bike forks. That red ring is a sag indicator, to set the correct sag for your suspension.
You can also play around with volume spacers inside the fork to change how linear the suspension feels.
some of these types of e bikes have fox 40’s
I'm pretty sure he already knows all that.
@@bushyg6067 doesn't seem like it
@@bushyg6067 he said it
@@fuglstad_explores 5:37 :| he lit explained it
You need to redo the acceleration test on pavement. You guys should get a seat lift and peg lowering kit. You also need taller bars and a direct stem mount. Most importantly, you need to upgrade the brakes after the power upgrade.
It ain't that serious buddy.
Finally a video hopping see your videos mate
Love these vids!
The 35 speed limit is only a suggestion. Lol. Definitely enjoy your content
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Sick!
Great video, thanks for posting
Pine Grove! I used to play tournament softball out there on the weekends, when I was much younger.
Race in woods wood be a good one for the two
Would love to see Sean get on an electric unicycle! I've been binge watching videos of them with the kiddos living vicariously through UA-cam since all Dad's free monies are going to adoption.
The electric unicycle is the most fun you can have riding anything. Get a begode RS torque , it have enough torque for a large dude. It’ll go on a beer run, it’ll also blast a mnt bike trail.
@@squidsleap RS HT seems like the perfect wheel, as you said, for whipping around and droping trails. I've put a lot of thought into getting one. Currently Sending on the EX.N HS
Really digging your videos 👏👏👏👏
In Peoria IL we have the PMC Racepark track, which is the only dirt flat track in the nation with a jump. I think you two should arrange a track day there, and do an endurance test, with bonus points added for most height over the jump.
Man I would love to pick one of these up but they cost literally almost as much as my daily driver...
Your shop, wait, Craig's shop needs a cnc plasma table to make special parts like sprockets.
Air Plasma cncs don't do a precise enough job make a sprocket. Hi Def Plasma cncs can get a lot closer but if you have that kind of money you might as well step up to a fiber laser. When I make sprockets on my plasma cnc I leave extra material to do a final precise cut in my cnc milling machine.
@@dabooge I prefer water jet cutting but I was just making an off hand suggestion.
A great video boys!
Love the shirt...🤟😆...mabey this could be the next giveaway bike...or any of the other Amazon bikes
Most important question for me.
What’s the leg room like on the Segway? I’m 6’5” 230lbs and looking into Ebikes.
What size are you guys? You both look pretty tall making the Segway appear to be pretty small.
Edit: I cannot wait to see these lightweight Emotorcycles with large frames and ergos to match hit the market. The Drill with a 26” front wheel looks promising but man are they expensive now.
This. I’m 6’8” same weight. Need an ebike, I’m outgrowing my Onewheel.
@@Lurch685 Hey man I have a surron I honestly think a stock surron (segway, but buy surron - same brand but surron is better) starts to get a little uncomfortable and small when you are 6'6 plus; I am 6'1 and it works fine for me; my 6'3 friend looked great on it; my 6'4 friend started to look just a little weird riding it.. I think 6'6 is honestly the threshold on one of these BUT you can get larger 21 inch tires, which can run you 400 to 1500 for the initial payment and it'll make the bike stand taller and probably be feasible for anyone up to 6'9 imo... As for weight: 275 pounds is a pretty good max weight for a rider for this bike stock.. upgraded suspension and tires 325 pounds no problem
@@twp4603 I’m only about 230 so weight shouldn’t be too big an issue, it’s just height. I’ll look into it, thanks!
@@Lurch685 Honestly at 6'5 you should be ok, but the bike will look small; not really a big deal tho! I love the surron - super economical and fun. Expect to get 16 to 20 miles on a charge in sport (full throttle); it is a city commuter bike. The cheapest upgrade you can make for more comfort at your size is higher and or wider handlebars, seat heighten, or the expensive options - motorcycle tires for big bikes (this involves labor and money tho) so the handlebar is probably your best best.. my 6'3 friend looked absolutely rad riding it.
@@twp4603 awesome, thanks man!
I thought the orange ring on the forks was to set the sag!
it is
U guys are EPIC ........ Love yor videos
All your videos have useful content. I learn a lot.
You call it 3500 $ but never mentioned the cost of the modifications 😂
"Gary + Parts = $7500"
0:33 bike cost
0:39 part cost
6 seconds later for modification $$$... LMFFFAAAOOO 😂🤦♂️👍
I guess your blind and you mother dropped you on your head? Lol
I've always dreamt of having a decent ebike, with phenomenal speed. But when you're on a "FIXED INCOME", it's like trying to touch a star with your bare hands. BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE...
Nothing isn’t impossible take the IM out of impossible and you get possible dream keep on aiming I’m not saying it will be easy as I struggle too but I’m slowly getting there trying to buy my self one too so you can do this
@@curtiswilcock5628 I appreciate your optimism. But in my current situation, I'm just being a "Realist". My income is not set up for me to be able to obtain an eBike. And that's just the reality that I have to live with. Do I like it? No. But those are the facts. I can only imagine riding, and owning an awesome eBike...
I picked up an R1, used. If you just mount a pizza box on one, and run pizzas at night, well, did it ( in my car)to supplement my income, yrs ago, a few hundred extra a week, at night!
@@raymondharris6599 things change if you work hard keep your nose clean. maybe check into going back to school lost of grants out their. I went back for HVAC doubled my pay $30hr.
@@jrrains perhaps you didn't understand my comment when I'd said that I'm on a fixed income. It means that I collect SSI once a month because of a disability. Plus I've already received my college degree in HVAC, with work experience. Eventually my body has given out on me. I can no longer do strenuous work. I'm not trying to give away my whole medical history online, but if it was possible for me to do meaningful work, I would. Also. Are you under the impression that I'm a drug user, or alcoholic? The reason I'm asking you this is because of your reference to me "KEEPING MY NOSE CLEAN". What gives you the impression that I'm not?
Noice !! Can't wait to see how it does with a chain on the initial drive instead of that belt ... stoopid master links !!
You guys make great videos.
I just built a minimoto. Converted it from 2stroke to 48v 1800w electric and it’s so much faster now.
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I think its clear its no longer a $3500 bike with all those modifications. Give the full price with all the modifications done to it.
They show at the beginning it totals to about $7500
@@Jerm72618 it indeed does
@@Jerm72618 ,the additional parts were $7500 on top of a basic $3500 bike...total is $11,000 to compete with the other $12000 bike and make it better than that one
@@andrewhernandez1275 it said it is “Gary+parts” adds up to the 7500 total
Remember how expensive gateway computers were in the 90's......? Now you can buy a phone for 100bucks that way out performs the old gateway. Just saying give it time they will get to be more affordable in time same with electric cars.
Well I like it with the mods, Super Cool.
The fire coming out of the bikes as they race 😂😂🤣
I really want to get one of these bikes. They look like a blast.
I want to get a electric start
@@yeet1667 I build custom rc cars with brushless motors and lipo batts and they are crazy fast so i can imagine riding a super fast bicycle
dont get a segway just get a sur ron from luna cycles, most fun bike i've ever ridden
@@braydenser9544 I'm pretty sure they are the same..
@@filupondeznuts6732 their not the segway is smaller, slower, and just has inferior parts. Its like a crappier copy of the sur ron
GOD be with you always... Always pray for you
It’s crazy knowing where you are for all your videos I pass Lancaster cupcake all the time lol
RTR!!! Caleb although wouldn’t much rolling after the 1st quarter guess it’s all the flatness in FL
Loving it man
You should add front motor also on the Segway x160!!! Just imagine Front & rear motors!🤪👍🤙👌
I love this Chanel you guys rock
Pine Grove is definitely a interesting place to be forsure... about 25mins away from there
I would have so much fun with that bike. BTW this channel is great. Keeps me entertained. You guys are great.
my Ebike kit on my mountain bike does 30mph top speed and around 40 miles distance cost less than a grand ,, rear wheel hub drive with just a throttle no peddle assist ..
Have them tested on a dirt track with jumps and what not . What they are advertised to do. Having to pull up hill and varied throttle will show something . As well as durability I want to see how well they hold together after a day at the gravity track or mt. Trail
I think the Segway x160 would be the perfect bike to be a vehicle replacement in my little town because it's all hills and street.... I would probably ride that bike instead of driving and I'd make a sidecar so I could take my son on rides as well, then I'd probably keep it running for the next 20 years until I couldn't find parts for it anymore. I'd probably buy up a bunch of parts now so I'd have stuff to fix it w/ if anything happened but you can use all the diffent Sur Ron controllers and stuff to fix it.... Definitely loving the street tires but I'd have to get a wrap for it, I don't like the silver. 😊❤️
And the drive is to take the side loading off the motor. Why I run hub motors. When I first started I used converted alternators as motors and the jerk from accelerating and bumps was killing the bearings .
Your modders ought to have a chain to belt conversion. Would he big improvement in stealth (noise) maintenance, and ease of changing (if ever needed). Nice video, and content. Learned a bunch.
The belts are much quieter but harder to change. They are continuous so you have to take much more apart to replace. Can't do that out in the trails. With a chain you just pop the master link and roll the chain through and reconnect the master link. Much easier fix when off roading. Most guys running high power or high tooth count sprockets will run chain also as the belts tend to strip easily. He stripped his in the first few minutes. Switched out my primary drive belt to a 219 chain drive as soon as I noticed it starting to wear.
Nice looking o have a Craig. You channel rules!!!!! Great ideas. This bikes are affordable, fun, and easy to transport
Do put on the 21 inch wheel at the front and the 19 inch at the rear.
This will help a lot with all the power you got going.
great vid god bless you
Every video is like an adventure that you take us to... Love this channel tho I have nothing to do with motorcycles..
God bless
I've been out on that way by pine Grove. It's beautiful ride. You guys ever get to go the opposite direction boiling springs pine Grove furnaces? That's an awesome ride. I like to take my Harley that way you guys should check it out. Just found your channel and now I'm subscribed 👌🤟
Interesting mods. These bikes are great
Garys got some balls now! Go Gary. He deserves some real Gary graphics or paint.
I love the ktm dirt bike lol growing up everything I bought with motor neibors would call cops that’s so quiet you could rip around and no one could say anything
Thanks again for all the videos and again my deepest sympathies go to you after you have been screwed! Obviously that one time "AKA"the Car! But we don't wanna talk about that, you're doing a lot for us and sometimes you get nothing in return! Other than our "fan " or what we have to say as in our Remarks! All that stuff it's a appreciated!!
Surrons have so much modding potential!
How am I new here….? Well, im subscribed now 😌
Hi big fan keep up the good work
That bike took off quickly. Nice!
Nicely done
The answer to further testing side by side is definitely what one can go higher/further jumping a ramp
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Change the chain rings out in curious about how each one would change. 64 tooth should have a higher top speed? And maybe better range? What about changing the size tire if possible what effect would that have?
We need the "Everyone needs a craig" shirt! hah
You can put Fox forks on that thing and a better spring in the back, these bikes are legit once you kit them out.
Gary bike is a winner now! Impressive
More of this plz
Awsome job boys, can you now camouflage Gary and take him anywhere like grocery shopping? Maybe make some accessories like a boat attachment or a snow mobile attachment or even a helicopter attachment?! Or just make Craig frustrated again, that was priceless.
*Aw(e)some
cannot wait to see what that bike can do when everything is on it