That's the fun thing about Belgium. It doesn't matter of it's legal or not. Who f*cking cares. It's like a drone. No one actually knows what's legal or not. Just handle the thing responsible, and no one will bat an eye.
The difference is there are clear rules set out by the aviation authorities about drones. Just because everyone ignores the rules doesn't mean there aren't any.
Weed is not legal, the real one...Ben zelf Belg,si tu veut en Français pareil, België dom klein landje,un peu comme je préférais un peu de weed,Belgium like a cleft palate...maar blijf leuk...
I have both an e-scooter and an e-bike. Really the difference is just how far you want to go. Inside your town->scooter, between towns->bike. They are both great and you might pick one of both anyway.
have you ever get a ticket from an officer when you were riding on the road? cuz i'm going to buy an electric scooter and i dont wanna get pulled over.
Yeah because think of all the money they will lose from parking permits and parking tickets if everybody started riding scooters. Not to mention all the gas taxes the state and local city will lose out on. Plus no DMV registration, no insurance, or license needed to ride. No speeding tickets, red light tickets, or handicap parking registration or tickets.
Buy Ireland is part of the European Union and the rest European countries are allowed under Europe union law to have them so fuck the Dept of transport,, it's not right to be told that we have to follow the rules of the European Union for the things that suit the idiots in the Irish government and then they can just undermine our rights as people who live under the rules of the European Union Its like they are treating us like complete Fools, bunch of shitheads
-"only" took 30 days to arrive. -Weight limit is 75Kg -Speed drops to walking pace if conditions are not ideal. -Range is "pretty ok" (8km). -Probably not legal. -Rear break sucks. -Actually costs 460€
That is the adult version price (356 EUR on GearBest megabonus.com/y/teJMy ), plus in the US u can find a local seller. He is basically overloading a battery and motor due to it being cut down version - that is why the slow speed. I would rather get 1000w MagicPie for my bike.
In Holland, they will send a whole SWAT team and maybe half of the army to arrest you since you are considered a highly wanted criminal for driving such a thing.
That’s not true you can ride the just fine in the bike lines . Even Vespas are allowed in the bike lanes but some say they will ban these . But electric scooters like that one is just fine
Great video im glad to see a fellow M365 owner I have the full version it does 30km and takes 100kg i would highly recommend it its awesome, thats what the manufacturer claims ive done 22km on one charge and i weigh 75kg which is frankly amazing for something with no visible power source. Also you dont get spare tyres with the it, ive no idea why you think that. You really need to buy a solid tyre for the rear as a puncture is super difficult to deal with and that slime stuff doesnt work. Xiaomi bought Segway and in the EU and the US they sell them as segway, the newer versions of them anyway the m365 is 3 years old now.. There is no warranty with xiaomi in the EU, i had a hall sensor issue out the box which i had to fix myself which was a pain. Its a lot more expensive but if you can afford it buy the segway ES2 the m365 is like the 1st attempt and its great but there is a eunos which is the 2nd one and the segway es1 and es2 which are 3rd generation even though these are from different companies its the same factory and engineers and the design is much more refined by then. Id recommend buying that one it also has a range extender battery that attaches to it. the segway ones are much more expensive so if your happy to risk no warranty and safe a fortune ( like half the price) sure get a m365 ( not youth) I waited for a sale and got it for £300. The retail on the es2 is like £549 but it has a much better hinge, a 1 inch suspension which is a huge improvement and a few other improvements for flaws that appear over time. nothing product breaking just 1st gen vs 3rd gen stuff.
Hey @PwnstarUK I have a question I'm a big dude like 1'93 and 105kg. In your opinion would I be able to ride this? I'm considering to buy one for myself
I got myself an electric folding bike and it's absolutely amazing. The range of the scooter would not be enough for me and I know for a fact that it wouldn't be legal here in Germany. The bike has a stated range of 70km and if the battery indicator is anywhere near accurate, I can believe that. (Haven't ridden it that far yet) It can also go 25 km/h (often slightly more, actually) and, while it does take slightly longer to fold up, you can still fold it in like 10 seconds. It was a lot more expensive, though, I'll give you that.
Had one for about half a year. Things to be cautious about, the tires are almost a pain to change if you have a flat. However you can get conversion tires that are solid (aliexpress), though you do lose a little traction and wouldn't recommend on slippery roads. But it is good alternative since you don't have to worry about punctures or tire pressure. Whatever you do, do not ever drop this scooter, first thing to go is the bell handle (part where it clips down when folded), and the next is the kickstand. These two parts break of very easily and there is no glue strong enough to bond it back together. Feel free to post and I'll answer to the best of my ability. BTW it weighs around closer to 14-15kg. Alright to carry if you're taking taking it out on flat road but you'll regret taking it up and down several flights of stairs daily.
Hell yeah, I’ve had mine for almost 2 years, had to change the front panel due to water damage and upgrade the tires to solid but it’s done over 1500 kilometres so far and I’ve used it almost everyday since buying it. Everyone should own one ☝️ no carbon footprint and it’s better than a car in that you can ride it on the sidewalk between people and places a car can’t go.
I had this scooter and battery fuse blew after 200km. Be very careful with emergency braking as this will overload the regenerative braking and blow the fuse. Try stopping as hard as you can from full speed. Will kill the fuse.
I have owned 4 e-scooters. They are really useful for short distance commuting(usually around 10km trip) whereby getting onto a public transport is less convenient. Regarding the maintenance issue, all tools require some sort of tuning and maintenance. IF you buy a car, you need to regularly check its performance, the same goes for e-scooters, but they are far less complicated. Some oiling and checking for loose bolts are required if you plan to use them for a long time. A very worthy investment.
You have to underline on the title that you're reviewing the "youth" edition and not the standard one. Which is not correct for whose who clik on your video.
Yeah i did that for a year or so in edinburgh, steep hills ect, it was very tiring but a good work out! Then I got an electric scooter, which cut my time down from 45 mins to about 25 so that was good
6:30 I bet most older police would think it is just a regular non-powered push scooter, and are just wondering how you go so fast... LOL (It doesn't really look like it has a motor or batteries)
I am in same area as you. The streets looked familiar :) I have the m365 full version. It is a great scooter. The only issue is when you run a flat. There are some great YT vids demonstrating step by step how to get the wheel off. (lot of screws) but removing/putting back the tire itself can be a serious pain in the ass. The thing that also proved to be useful is to get one of those bike mounts for your smartphone. That way you can use Waze or whichever nav app you like when you visit a city/area you are not familiar with.
Anywhere you look it depends on the season, cheapest to buy any of those is between December and March, the highest demand for them is from May to September.
For people from some European countries , sometimes there are offers on Gearbest to deliver the M365 from their GW4 warehouse (Poland) so you dont have to wait 1 month for the usual delivery from China. I ordered mine on a monday and got it delivered the same week on friday (UPS).
The video was great! In Japan, you can't easily ride an Electric scooters yet. The law is troublesome. I'm looking forward to the video! With love from Japan :)
Not only you have the same name, you also bought the same scooter and live in the same country. Nice video. The anti-theft feature actually brakes the scooter so you can't just roll it away. Not sure if you have the most recent firmware. There is also a way to increase the power & performance. send me a pm if needed. got 70km's on mine now, but can't wait for summer.
that was the total of kilometers I've driven with it :p now closer to 200. Range is around 22 in eco, 20 in normal (but i updated it to go faster. around 32 on flat road)
I used to take the same route (Wetteren station to Melle) back in the 90's while in school at similar 20km/h with my not so electric Solex. And then the same road (St Pieters to Holstraat) while at uni.. Weird to see both routes again:) Also, I was in Shenzhen recently and had the exact same bike in my hands wondering if I should buy it! Groeten uit London
there are two different e scooters at my work, the full version of this one and a segway ninbot. I've used both a bit and the xiaomi one is much better imo. the inflatable tires are really great, with the ninebot every little bump in the pavement is transferred to the hands. Also the xiaomi has better build quality.
Heb deze bijna 2 jaar. 3000km mee gereden. Tanden verloren met zware hersenschudding en hij werkt nog steeds goed, zeker de 300 euro waard, behalve die 3000 euro extra voor het tandimplantaat.
I used to ride an electric skateboard on the road, fully armored up with lights and stuff. that was around the time of this video. electric vehicles in new zealand had nothing, so police gave me weird looks and let me be, my skateboard was able to reach speeds of 35kmph which turned to 80kmph going down hill lucky im a vet when it comes to down hill skateboarding and longboarding. lately sadly i was on my skateboard and was pulled over cause the laws had recently changed, luckily for me this scooter is allowed on roads
People in Spain use these to get around on the pavement and everywhere. In the UK they are illegal on the streets. Annoying as they cut traffic and pollution.
@@joshb7415 - I guess, but people do not use them as the cops can fine you £75 and even arrest you. They can also take you to court and put points on your actual car license which you can then lose or at least have your insurance go way up. I live in Edinburgh and the pavements are very poor here as the city is very old andl has a Medfeival layout so you'd be getting on and off every few seconds to get past obstacles. Not to mention that Scots are pretty aggressive one might take the law into their hands if they see you on the pavement with these. Bikes are better.
I had a xootr when I worked in Pyrmont over 10 years ago and ride to and from the train station. Was great on flats. When we changed offices to Surry hill and there was a very steep hill it was useless. This electric scooter looks like it would have possibly been a solution for going uphill.
It is legal. No grey zone. EU legislation permits 250 W motors on either ebikes or scooters. As long as you are in 250 W limit and not going more than 25 km/h u gucci.
AFAIK that's true if the motor only assists with pedaling. As soon as ebike is throttle controlled, you need to register it like motorcycle. I'm not sure how it could work for this kind of scooter - accelerometer detecting when you push with your feet and it assists only then? Laws fail to keep up with tech.
"You almost want to go to work just to ride the scooter" My favorite line of yours coz' you got me there, hahaha!. I'm riding my new Mi 1s for 3 days now and it's really fun riding it to work. My only nightmare would be the flat tire if ever happened. That's why I will order 2 solid tires now just in case I would not wait longer for the tires to come.
In my case, i keep it near my desk at the office. At school it be difficult since you need to charge the scooter, and also travel from class to class. Like at work for example if we have an event after work, i just leave it at my desk, can't drag the scooter around to a bar, etc.
I have the regular m365 normal battery and the weight is a bit heavy to lug around, our train service in Canada is decent but commuters still dont like you very much with a scooter on the floor. Its an ongoing reason to bump into you, so it was good to see other travel systems are more friendly towards eco friendly travel. I use the scooter to avoid parking at the train station. I use a push scooter now, razor a5 air, only weighs 5.5 Kg with pneumatic wheels, its a push scooter but better for short range due to the form factor. Thanks for the video and happy scooting.
When Eon gets it's scooters out on the market in the next month or two, you should take a look. The Eon Mini goes 24kmph, has a range of 28kms, and weighs 15lbs (6.8kg) The fastest one, the Platinum, goes 72kph, has a range over 80kms, and weighs 45lbs (20.4 kgs) If you are interested in finding out more, just look up Eon Scooters. They are at the tail end of their IndieGoGo campaign, and sending everything off to China to start to get mass production going.
legally they are limited to 25km/hr so only can compete on range. anything doing 70+ kph is an actual motor vehicle they needs tax and a licence and has to stay on the road which defeats the whole purpose of this.
Wat een goede review video. Ik stond juist op punt om mijn aan te kopen . Na deze video krijg ik nog meer zin om de adult versie te kopen . mijn werk is 7 km. Ben benieuwd ! Antwerpen stad!
A folding bike would weigh about 5 kg less, go considerably faster at around 30-35 kph, and doesn’t need to be charged. Apart from the fact it would also keep you fitter. Less portable? Yes and no, this scooter looks quite long. Lastly, riding a bicycle in traffic is a lot safer than a scooter. The small wheels of scooters do not handle bumps and cracks as well, which (hopefully never happens to you) sooner or later throws you off it into a nasty accident. It happened to me, I concussed and now got scars for life. Good review nonetheless.
damn man, you fell with a scooter and got scars for life? That must have been unlucky AF, i wouldnt say 25 Km/h is a potentially dangerous speed by itself :/
Vasich lolcode Yeah man, that probably was just unlucky. But still, it’s been happening quite often here where I live (Brisbane, Australia) because they just brought in those Lime scooters. They actually reach 29 km/h on flat. Just make sure to be alert and watch traffic and terrain and you’ll be sweet.
Seems to me you dont actualy ride a bike. 30-35kmph for more than 5min would require you to be a trained athelete. a normal person wil only get 20-25kmph. just to be clear.. not talking about top speed, but avarage over 5 to 10km.
Mentholox I actually do, daily. I ride a Tern Verge X10 and at top gear 30-32 km/h is easily maintainable. But you’re right in the sense that not every bike is light and fast. And plus that I am fitter than an average person and that plays in tremendously in your average speed. Nonetheless, speed was only one of the folding bike advantages I see over electric scooters.
@@facefactss fair point. I think not having to stand and have all that stress on your knee's is another one :p as most people would lock up their knee's, removing all 'suspention' in the legs
I look forward to cycling my folding bike to work each day. I get some exercise and it fits in my car no problem. This scooter just won't be as much fun for me plus zero exercise. And you have to charge the thing up all the time.
Sure its illegal but will the police care? I took a ride on my skateboard in the city yesterday and went on a 30km/h street, past a police car and waved. Two happy police officers waved back to me and pat their heads and gave me a thumbs up. (I always wear a helmet on that thing). Was probably going close to 40km/h. Grandma bikes faster than the M365'stop speed so the rules are just messed up right now.
See your point, would love an electric bike, but due to knee injuries, these type of scooters actually allow me to have a cheaper alternative to a car, still offering some exercise through its use. Pedaling action of a bike makes knee painful, standing on scooter does not.
I really like the look of that. i am 46, thinking of using the credit card to obtain one. Great for short 10 km travels. Nice video as well. Well made Great shots of Belgium . i need to visit Antwerp again soon on my Vespa. :-)
There are now even two official renting services for ebikes in the center of Brussels, not with Xiaomi but other brands. So if it is not legal : do you think a company would take the risk renting them out ?
This looks like fun! BTW, I heard on 'de inspecteur' that nobody really knows the legalities. They called an importer and someone from the police I believe and nobody could 100% say if you need insurance or a licence plate or not.
I love how organized the transportation is in the EU. Imagine living in the USA, where we have zero reliable public transport. Everyone here has to pay to have a car as there are very few trains connecting the cities together, with very little light rail in even the biggest metros. This adds AT LEAST €12K to a person’s annual expenses. Great review btw!
it is not that reliable at all, our politicians just try to make americans think that we have it better and against us they say look at those americans we have better trains, but believe me EU is bad
@@raketman101 I don't know man, I've been the northern Europe and it was pretty convenient, at least the trains and getting around. The lack of transportation here in the US is one of the key ways we pay a heafty and unofficial tax. I guess it may depend on which country we're talking about in the EU. The problem with the US is that it is huge in size, with lots of unpopulated countryside in between it's towns. There's really no way to get around in the USA if you don't own your own car, it's required. If I wanted to travel from the outer part of town to the center in my town, Raleigh, NC, it would take at least 2 hours via our bus system.
I België is het vanaf 16 jaar legaal om elektrische voertuigen (steps, hoverboards, etc.) tot 25 km/h en brommers tot 25 km/h aan 50cc te besturen zonder rijbewijs :D Voor voertuigen tot 45 km/h heb je rijbewijs AM nodig en is een helm verplicht... Goeie review trouwens ;-)
Volgens mij is het illegaal in België omdat het niet valt onder 'elektrische' fiets die intussen wel regels kent. Een gemotoriseerd voertuig (zonder verplichte pedaalsturing) moet je 'inschrijven' voor een nummerplaat, verzekering, helm, knipperlichten... Daartegenover staat dat er nog niet genoeg van deze nieuwe dingen op straat zijn en dat het dus niet veel zin heeft om er nieuwe regels voor te maken. Persoonlijk vind ik dat we elektrische voertuigen moeten promoten door bvb. geen regels op te leggen voor alles wat elektrisch is en de onder 25km/u zit. Het is immers al het geval voor de elektrische fietsen. Op die manier zullen meer mensen er voor kiezen en blijft het veilig genoeg. (Immers voor hoofdletsels is een auto gevaarlijker en daar is toch ook geen helm verplicht tenzij misschien op circuit)
De limiet is 18 km/u voor "voortbewegingstoestellen". Die worden dan gelijkgesteld met een fiets of een voetganger naargelang hoe snel je gaat. Dus moest xiaomi die step begrenzen kan het wel
About the legality, it falls under the same as other electric vehicles. Technically illegal over 25k's. It's the same rules as e-skateboarding, but I've never had trouble with the police before. Just been stopped a few times for riding at night
Why does xiaomi dont sell their ebikes here in europe in a Shop? everybody would Buy their ebikes. Top Quality, nice Price. they also have a licence for selling it in europe, but they dont use it!!!
Tibor Klein Next time you use these kinda words that harass some race. You will have company. Trust me, I'm Muslim and won't have your words on my back. Trust me, Findig your IP isn't complicated for muslims. We will send someone to look at your house.. in couple of months you will delete that comment.
I got a car and a motorcycle and now a 700watt kick scooter in time like these we change our ways to save money, wrong to say that I got one since they are really fun to ride :D and the fact that I'm going to work in my hometown for the next two years
Nope, only if he was riding a bike, motor or car. That's as far as our laws go at the moment. Also if you drive drunk on a bike in the wrong direction they can take your car permit.
The maximum speed for electric scooters, wheel chairs and hover boards is being raised from 18 to 25 km/h - June 2019 Belgium. So you were partially legal :) You need to wear head protection though.
I am seriously considering this. I have a Dahon folding bike, but it does take a few minutes to fold up or to restore to a riding state and is heavy to carry around. You invariably arrive at your destination covered in perspiration and that is the greatest problem with cycling. As with cycling, it will be highly advisable to wear a helmet.
Regarding the legality, I think this falls under the new category of electric bikes EU made in the beginning of 2018 - L1e-A, which includes electric bikes with throttle (not pedal assistance) up to 1kW.
It will have the same rights as a bycycle in 2019-2020 with the new trafic code. Question: what if the battery is empty, can you use ut as a standard step ?
It is one of the cheaper scooters that are good, Never set a foot wrong apart from the punctures (They are a known thing and can be very hard to replace) It is also one of the lighter ones, Try 1,778.34 Euro and 28kg for expensive and heavy
These fall in the same regulations as electric skateboards do, they are perfectly legal unless you ride them too fast. I skate my boosted board all over gent and have not been stopped once. You will need family insurance to cover any damage to 3rd parties, but almost everyone has that. Good review!
I had to do a lot of my own research on E-bikes to see if it was legal where I live in the U.S. I found all kinds of State, City, and County laws, all a little different and some badly in need of updating. E-bike forums gave me the best information as people who actually use them on bike paths have had no problems from police and probably won't until one is involved in a serious accident. It's probably the same with E-scooters. The tech is so new it will probably take awhile for the laws to catch up. About the app, I would put the phone on the handle bars so the app would probably come in handy for me. Good review, thanks.
wish i lived in a civilised country with proper bike lanes
Same
Ce bine ar fii daca si la noi în tara ar fii asa!
Basing your countries civility on it's bike lane situation rather than..........I don't know, murder rate?
@@username-tp6dq Murder rates should not exists. Wish whole world problems were like lack of bike lanes!
Sometimes that dosnt help
In my country Bikers still use the road when theyres a Bike Path.....🙄people..
That's the fun thing about Belgium. It doesn't matter of it's legal or not. Who f*cking cares. It's like a drone. No one actually knows what's legal or not. Just handle the thing responsible, and no one will bat an eye.
Smart words... some people miss common sense these days
Very true...
Well the laws are in place because not all people can act responsibly lol
The difference is there are clear rules set out by the aviation authorities about drones. Just because everyone ignores the rules doesn't mean there aren't any.
Weed is not legal, the real one...Ben zelf Belg,si tu veut en Français pareil, België dom klein landje,un peu comme je préférais un peu de weed,Belgium like a cleft palate...maar blijf leuk...
I have both an e-scooter and an e-bike. Really the difference is just how far you want to go. Inside your town->scooter, between towns->bike. They are both great and you might pick one of both anyway.
have you ever get a ticket from an officer when you were riding on the road? cuz i'm going to buy an electric scooter and i dont wanna get pulled over.
XUFENG HUANG They honestly do not really care here in Belgium so far.
I admire how bike friendly Belgium looks.
It s another universe compared to italy
Come visit the Netherlands.
Belgium is a nightmare compared to the dutch roads
@@TheAdventuresOfCow so true haha those patches and holes 😂😂😂
teunje2 fucking belgen ook altijd xD 😂
Come to Limburg it's the most bike friendly Province of belgium
I´ve done 1300 km on mine, and it still works like a charm. The folding mechanism is still holding up great!
Electric scooters are a way forward in cities. And yet,the muppets in Irish department of transport want to ban it.
Yeah because think of all the money they will lose from parking permits and parking tickets if everybody started riding scooters. Not to mention all the gas taxes the state and local city will lose out on. Plus no DMV registration, no insurance, or license needed to ride. No speeding tickets, red light tickets, or handicap parking registration or tickets.
Buy Ireland is part of the European Union and the rest European countries are allowed under Europe union law to have them so fuck the Dept of transport,, it's not right to be told that we have to follow the rules of the European Union for the things that suit the idiots in the Irish government and then they can just undermine our rights as people who live under the rules of the European Union
Its like they are treating us like complete Fools, bunch of shitheads
Yeah it's just great to hear this as I just purchased one, but fuck it I'm gonna rode it until its taken off me... Fuck the system
In england they are illegal too but I ride last policemen all the time and they don’t really care at all
www.change.org/p/dvla-don-t-ban-electric-scooters/
Vote it down!
-"only" took 30 days to arrive.
-Weight limit is 75Kg
-Speed drops to walking pace if conditions are not ideal.
-Range is "pretty ok" (8km).
-Probably not legal.
-Rear break sucks.
-Actually costs 460€
That is the adult version price (356 EUR on GearBest megabonus.com/y/teJMy ), plus in the US u can find a local seller. He is basically overloading a battery and motor due to it being cut down version - that is why the slow speed. I would rather get 1000w MagicPie for my bike.
mate, even a cheap 100 eur used bike would be far usperior transport method than this
You American?
I Belgian
@@germas369 no, cause it costs you money to carry in on the train in his country which he does on a daily basis.
In Holland, they will send a whole SWAT team and maybe half of the army to arrest you since you are considered a highly wanted criminal for driving such a thing.
Seriously? I knew that Netherlands is a police country, but I didn't realise you cannot drive an electric scooter, how is so?
That’s not true you can ride the just fine in the bike lines . Even Vespas are allowed in the bike lanes but some say they will ban these . But electric scooters like that one is just fine
They have this new one called the condor x3 nl which apparently is legal under Dutch law because it doesn't have an accelerator
@@PunkSage Wtf do you mean a "police country"? Get your head out your ass - The Netherlands is absolutely a free country
jve89: In Germany the same: you have to have a license plate, helmet, insurance and so on, but no insur BGE will give you an insurance for what
Great scooter,,, I've had mine for close to 5 months never experienced any issues 😁10/10
cobyveron where did you buy it?
AlwaysRoos i bought mine from Amazon,,now is cheaper goes around $450
cobyveron cobyveron oke thnx bro🙋♀️ butt why this youtiber says “the best 245 i ever spent” ?
AlwaysRoos oh beacuse thats Euros not Dollars,,,Euros is stronger than dollars so basically almost the same amount
cobyveron euros? yesss! i come from holland😝 so i pay with euros🙋♀️🙋♀️😝😝
Great video im glad to see a fellow M365 owner
I have the full version it does 30km and takes 100kg i would highly recommend it its awesome, thats what the manufacturer claims ive done 22km on one charge and i weigh 75kg which is frankly amazing for something with no visible power source. Also you dont get spare tyres with the it, ive no idea why you think that.
You really need to buy a solid tyre for the rear as a puncture is super difficult to deal with and that slime stuff doesnt work. Xiaomi bought Segway and in the EU and the US they sell them as segway, the newer versions of them anyway the m365 is 3 years old now.. There is no warranty with xiaomi in the EU, i had a hall sensor issue out the box which i had to fix myself which was a pain. Its a lot more expensive but if you can afford it buy the segway ES2 the m365 is like the 1st attempt and its great but there is a eunos which is the 2nd one and the segway es1 and es2 which are 3rd generation even though these are from different companies its the same factory and engineers and the design is much more refined by then. Id recommend buying that one it also has a range extender battery that attaches to it. the segway ones are much more expensive so if your happy to risk no warranty and safe a fortune ( like half the price) sure get a m365 ( not youth) I waited for a sale and got it for £300. The retail on the es2 is like £549 but it has a much better hinge, a 1 inch suspension which is a huge improvement and a few other improvements for flaws that appear over time. nothing product breaking just 1st gen vs 3rd gen stuff.
Hey @PwnstarUK I have a question I'm a big dude like 1'93 and 105kg. In your opinion would I be able to ride this? I'm considering to buy one for myself
Mine came with a spare tyre set.
I'm 6'4" as well and about 95kg, expect you'll be fine
This scooter can reach the 25k/h without changing any thing???
my scooter came with two spare tires
Biggest problem with this product is when you get a puncture. Its a nightmare to repair, as its very awkward to take off the wheel and replace.
Totally agree and mine stopped working properly once I changed the wheel
And police can just take them away in the uk
@@jaden9389 that’s stupid
tho you can buy honeycomb solid wheels from amazon.
@@jaden9389 no they can’t
"Only 33 days later" wow lol, thats a long ass delivery time.
I'm from Belgium and it's so cool to find an belgian review about the scooter !
These are the same scooters that Bird uses for their shared scooter service here in he states
Whaaat? They looked familiar....
I got myself an electric folding bike and it's absolutely amazing. The range of the scooter would not be enough for me and I know for a fact that it wouldn't be legal here in Germany.
The bike has a stated range of 70km and if the battery indicator is anywhere near accurate, I can believe that. (Haven't ridden it that far yet)
It can also go 25 km/h (often slightly more, actually) and, while it does take slightly longer to fold up, you can still fold it in like 10 seconds.
It was a lot more expensive, though, I'll give you that.
Which electric folding bike did you get?
How much?
Very well explained. I'm buying it soon you've convinced me. New subscriber 👍
Had one for about half a year. Things to be cautious about, the tires are almost a pain to change if you have a flat. However you can get conversion tires that are solid (aliexpress), though you do lose a little traction and wouldn't recommend on slippery roads. But it is good alternative since you don't have to worry about punctures or tire pressure. Whatever you do, do not ever drop this scooter, first thing to go is the bell handle (part where it clips down when folded), and the next is the kickstand. These two parts break of very easily and there is no glue strong enough to bond it back together.
Feel free to post and I'll answer to the best of my ability.
BTW it weighs around closer to 14-15kg. Alright to carry if you're taking taking it out on flat road but you'll regret taking it up and down several flights of stairs daily.
MY Sign Language the solid tires are a bitch to get on
Hell yeah, I’ve had mine for almost 2 years, had to change the front panel due to water damage and upgrade the tires to solid but it’s done over 1500 kilometres so far and I’ve used it almost everyday since buying it. Everyone should own one ☝️ no carbon footprint and it’s better than a car in that you can ride it on the sidewalk between people and places a car can’t go.
Seza Belle Wow that’s insane almost two years the one I had barely lasted four months. 😅 Any advice on how to change the front tires.
Very good
I had this scooter and battery fuse blew after 200km. Be very careful with emergency braking as this will overload the regenerative braking and blow the fuse. Try stopping as hard as you can from full speed. Will kill the fuse.
Hasn't this been patched yet?
@seguiriya1 If you use it a lot, it might be worth replacing the whole thing after a year?
I have owned 4 e-scooters. They are really useful for short distance commuting(usually around 10km trip) whereby getting onto a public transport is less convenient.
Regarding the maintenance issue, all tools require some sort of tuning and maintenance. IF you buy a car, you need to regularly check its performance, the same goes for e-scooters, but they are far less complicated. Some oiling and checking for loose bolts are required if you plan to use them for a long time. A very worthy investment.
You have to underline on the title that you're reviewing the "youth" edition and not the standard one. Which is not correct for whose who clik on your video.
I tried to commute to work with a normal Scooter, but that is really too exhausting...
buy a longboard/pennyboard nickel way less exhausting i go to school whit my pennyboard nickel and thats 10km
Yeah i did that for a year or so in edinburgh, steep hills ect, it was very tiring but a good work out! Then I got an electric scooter, which cut my time down from 45 mins to about 25 so that was good
6:30 I bet most older police would think it is just a regular non-powered push scooter, and are just wondering how you go so fast... LOL
(It doesn't really look like it has a motor or batteries)
0:35 nice electric jack hammer you have there
I am in same area as you. The streets looked familiar :) I have the m365 full version. It is a great scooter. The only issue is when you run a flat. There are some great YT vids demonstrating step by step how to get the wheel off. (lot of screws) but removing/putting back the tire itself can be a serious pain in the ass. The thing that also proved to be useful is to get one of those bike mounts for your smartphone. That way you can use Waze or whichever nav app you like when you visit a city/area you are not familiar with.
I remember this was the first video I ever saw about e-scooters back in 2019. I bought my first one and been happy since.
Everybody: Can I ride ur scooter?
unicorn: No, it could be illegal
Everybody: nO ItS IlLEgAL
Cool om zien dat een Belgische UA-camr zo'n mooi aantal views haalt voor een tech review!
245 seems to be an awesome price, can't find it for under 400.
You're looking at the adults model, the one he has is a child model.
@@mal3k_xd thx!
Anywhere you look it depends on the season, cheapest to buy any of those is between December and March, the highest demand for them is from May to September.
For people from some European countries , sometimes there are offers on Gearbest to deliver the M365 from their GW4 warehouse (Poland) so you dont have to wait 1 month for the usual delivery from China. I ordered mine on a monday and got it delivered the same week on friday (UPS).
I think I'm the only one that said "OH SHIT A MIATA" at the beggining
The video was great! In Japan, you can't easily ride an Electric scooters yet. The law is troublesome. I'm looking forward to the video! With love from Japan :)
Not only you have the same name, you also bought the same scooter and live in the same country. Nice video.
The anti-theft feature actually brakes the scooter so you can't just roll it away. Not sure if you have the most recent firmware.
There is also a way to increase the power & performance. send me a pm if needed. got 70km's on mine now, but can't wait for summer.
i hope the anti theft feature protects you from knives and guns too
Sup RenzVC, can you tell me how did you get 70 km on your scooter? Thanks :)
that was the total of kilometers I've driven with it :p now closer to 200. Range is around 22 in eco, 20 in normal (but i updated it to go faster. around 32 on flat road)
My dream city.. where is this.. i like when people use more bike than cars :)
@@sallynie8095 san francisco is the king of electric scooters and folding bikes and everything overly techie on the streets 😂
I used to take the same route (Wetteren station to Melle) back in the 90's while in school at similar 20km/h with my not so electric Solex. And then the same road (St Pieters to Holstraat) while at uni.. Weird to see both routes again:) Also, I was in Shenzhen recently and had the exact same bike in my hands wondering if I should buy it! Groeten uit London
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It's illegal to ride on the road in Singapore....top speed only allowed at 25kph.....riding on pathway or parkconnector only.
there are two different e scooters at my work, the full version of this one and a segway ninbot. I've used both a bit and the xiaomi one is much better imo. the inflatable tires are really great, with the ninebot every little bump in the pavement is transferred to the hands. Also the xiaomi has better build quality.
It's nice to see how the roads look like elsewhere. So different from what I'm used to. :) Great review. Thanks !I'm waiting for my m365 right now.
Heb deze bijna 2 jaar. 3000km mee gereden. Tanden verloren met zware hersenschudding en hij werkt nog steeds goed, zeker de 300 euro waard, behalve die 3000 euro extra voor het tandimplantaat.
"The police don't know the regulation of this thing either." LMAO
PRECISELY! EVERYTHING has to be REGULATED which means coming up with a phalanx of rules first, probably like wearing a basket on your head!!
Also consider an electric longboard. Got mine for $375 and it's even more portable (I got the Wowgo 2S)
Looks good
"You almost want to go to work just to ride the scooter", I felt that
Now I really need one.
Oh this comment explains your scooter video now. Your video influenced me to get one by the way
I used to ride an electric skateboard on the road, fully armored up with lights and stuff. that was around the time of this video. electric vehicles in new zealand had nothing, so police gave me weird looks and let me be, my skateboard was able to reach speeds of 35kmph which turned to 80kmph going down hill lucky im a vet when it comes to down hill skateboarding and longboarding. lately sadly i was on my skateboard and was pulled over cause the laws had recently changed, luckily for me this scooter is allowed on roads
People in Spain use these to get around on the pavement and everywhere. In the UK they are illegal on the streets. Annoying as they cut traffic and pollution.
@@joshb7415 - I guess, but people do not use them as the cops can fine you £75 and even arrest you. They can also take you to court and put points on your actual car license which you can then lose or at least have your insurance go way up. I live in Edinburgh and the pavements are very poor here as the city is very old andl has a Medfeival layout so you'd be getting on and off every few seconds to get past obstacles. Not to mention that Scots are pretty aggressive one might take the law into their hands if they see you on the pavement with these. Bikes are better.
@@AnyoneCanSee Yes here too about the driver's license, most of these people are too dumb to care...
I had a xootr when I worked in Pyrmont over 10 years ago and ride to and from the train station. Was great on flats. When we changed offices to Surry hill and there was a very steep hill it was useless.
This electric scooter looks like it would have possibly been a solution for going uphill.
It is legal. No grey zone. EU legislation permits 250 W motors on either ebikes or scooters. As long as you are in 250 W limit and not going more than 25 km/h u gucci.
AFAIK that's true if the motor only assists with pedaling. As soon as ebike is throttle controlled, you need to register it like motorcycle. I'm not sure how it could work for this kind of scooter - accelerometer detecting when you push with your feet and it assists only then? Laws fail to keep up with tech.
In my country to be legal 500 w max and it has to have operable pedals so these scooters are a no-go 😝
"You almost want to go to work just to ride the scooter" My favorite line of yours coz' you got me there, hahaha!. I'm riding my new Mi 1s for 3 days now and it's really fun riding it to work. My only nightmare would be the flat tire if ever happened. That's why I will order 2 solid tires now just in case I would not wait longer for the tires to come.
I just have one question, where do you put the scooter when you arrive at your location (like school)?
In ur class lol
In my case, i keep it near my desk at the office. At school it be difficult since you need to charge the scooter, and also travel from class to class.
Like at work for example if we have an event after work, i just leave it at my desk, can't drag the scooter around to a bar, etc.
At our school we are not allowed to take them to school
My school has a parking
@@toonypubg-mobileandcodm5510 nice
I have the regular m365 normal battery and the weight is a bit heavy to lug around, our train service in Canada is decent but commuters still dont like you very much with a scooter on the floor. Its an ongoing reason to bump into you, so it was good to see other travel systems are more friendly towards eco friendly travel. I use the scooter to avoid parking at the train station.
I use a push scooter now, razor a5 air, only weighs 5.5 Kg with pneumatic wheels, its a push scooter but better for short range due to the form factor.
Thanks for the video and happy scooting.
"Is it legal?" More like "Hey slave lord, can I ride this?"
Modernistic slave mindset in a nutshell.
Yeah that was really weird. I don't give a shit whether it's legal or not. It's not a motorcycle or anything.
Life rule: Ask for forgiveness not permission.
life rule: fuck the police
When Eon gets it's scooters out on the market in the next month or two, you should take a look.
The Eon Mini goes 24kmph, has a range of 28kms, and weighs 15lbs (6.8kg)
The fastest one, the Platinum, goes 72kph, has a range over 80kms, and weighs 45lbs (20.4 kgs)
If you are interested in finding out more, just look up Eon Scooters. They are at the tail end of their IndieGoGo campaign, and sending everything off to China to start to get mass production going.
I had a look. It looks horrible and those specs are from an indigogo page, I'm not even going to mail them to be honest
legally they are limited to 25km/hr so only can compete on range. anything doing 70+ kph is an actual motor vehicle they needs tax and a licence and has to stay on the road which defeats the whole purpose of this.
miata and a xiaomi m365 you know what youre doing mate !!! geen douane belastingen ?
A Miata is a girl's car.
Are you telling me I could have skipped hairdressersschool and gone for a boobjob instead?
No taxes this time :)
Wat een goede review video. Ik stond juist op punt om mijn aan te kopen . Na deze video krijg ik nog meer zin om de adult versie te kopen . mijn werk is 7 km. Ben benieuwd ! Antwerpen stad!
A folding bike would weigh about 5 kg less, go considerably faster at around 30-35 kph, and doesn’t need to be charged. Apart from the fact it would also keep you fitter.
Less portable? Yes and no, this scooter looks quite long.
Lastly, riding a bicycle in traffic is a lot safer than a scooter. The small wheels of scooters do not handle bumps and cracks as well, which (hopefully never happens to you) sooner or later throws you off it into a nasty accident. It happened to me, I concussed and now got scars for life.
Good review nonetheless.
damn man, you fell with a scooter and got scars for life?
That must have been unlucky AF, i wouldnt say 25 Km/h is a potentially dangerous speed by itself :/
Vasich lolcode Yeah man, that probably was just unlucky. But still, it’s been happening quite often here where I live (Brisbane, Australia) because they just brought in those Lime scooters. They actually reach 29 km/h on flat.
Just make sure to be alert and watch traffic and terrain and you’ll be sweet.
Seems to me you dont actualy ride a bike. 30-35kmph for more than 5min would require you to be a trained athelete. a normal person wil only get 20-25kmph. just to be clear.. not talking about top speed, but avarage over 5 to 10km.
Mentholox I actually do, daily. I ride a Tern Verge X10 and at top gear 30-32 km/h is easily maintainable. But you’re right in the sense that not every bike is light and fast. And plus that I am fitter than an average person and that plays in tremendously in your average speed.
Nonetheless, speed was only one of the folding bike advantages I see over electric scooters.
@@facefactss fair point. I think not having to stand and have all that stress on your knee's is another one :p as most people would lock up their knee's, removing all 'suspention' in the legs
When that lorry went past, I'd have lost another few pounds by shitting myself
I look forward to cycling my folding bike to work each day. I get some exercise and it fits in my car no problem. This scooter just won't be as much fun for me plus zero exercise. And you have to charge the thing up all the time.
Not all countries in Europa have same regulations.
I had both, scooter from video and brompton folding bike - sold the scooter, kept bike. Excercise and no need to charge won it for me
Sure its illegal but will the police care? I took a ride on my skateboard in the city yesterday and went on a 30km/h street, past a police car and waved. Two happy police officers waved back to me and pat their heads and gave me a thumbs up. (I always wear a helmet on that thing). Was probably going close to 40km/h.
Grandma bikes faster than the M365'stop speed so the rules are just messed up right now.
How about a foldable electric bike?? Checkmate!
See your point, would love an electric bike, but due to knee injuries, these type of scooters actually allow me to have a cheaper alternative to a car, still offering some exercise through its use. Pedaling action of a bike makes knee painful, standing on scooter does not.
I really like the look of that. i am 46, thinking of using the credit card to obtain one. Great for short 10 km travels. Nice video as well. Well made Great shots of Belgium . i need to visit Antwerp again soon on my Vespa. :-)
This is €400 without shipping and insurance... definitely not 245...
Chris Grillo he said he got it during a deal/sale
I would imagine they raised the price, since it's on UA-cam with good reviews.....??
It is the youth edition which is cheaper. I bought the m365 (so the "full" version) for 350€ so this is definetly not 400€
Look at 0:58, he said they where on a 'flash sale', so MSRP is of course higher than that :D
I bought mine for about 250$. Check aliexpress.
In a post corona virus world we need people on these instead of public transport/
had a xiaomi in Brussels. no problem with the police..
Is dit niet wettelijk? Je ziet ze overal in Brussel. Zolang ze niet sneller dan 25km per uur gaan mag het toch? Niet?
There are now even two official renting services for ebikes in the center of Brussels, not with Xiaomi but other brands. So if it is not legal : do you think a company would take the risk renting them out ?
Where did you buy yours?
@Frischeparadies Very good point that everyone ignores, it's not even possible to insure them... 🤑
This looks like fun! BTW, I heard on 'de inspecteur' that nobody really knows the legalities. They called an importer and someone from the police I believe and nobody could 100% say if you need insurance or a licence plate or not.
Nice review and picture quality! Greetings from Russia!
Whatever UA-cams algorithm is doing here. I hope you get more views. You deserve it man.
Hi, we're a few months later now. Still didn't had any issues with the police?
None whatsoever
I love how organized the transportation is in the EU. Imagine living in the USA, where we have zero reliable public transport. Everyone here has to pay to have a car as there are very few trains connecting the cities together, with very little light rail in even the biggest metros. This adds AT LEAST €12K to a person’s annual expenses. Great review btw!
it is not that reliable at all, our politicians just try to make americans think that we have it better and against us they say look at those americans we have better trains, but believe me EU is bad
@@raketman101 I don't know man, I've been the northern Europe and it was pretty convenient, at least the trains and getting around. The lack of transportation here in the US is one of the key ways we pay a heafty and unofficial tax. I guess it may depend on which country we're talking about in the EU. The problem with the US is that it is huge in size, with lots of unpopulated countryside in between it's towns. There's really no way to get around in the USA if you don't own your own car, it's required. If I wanted to travel from the outer part of town to the center in my town, Raleigh, NC, it would take at least 2 hours via our bus system.
I België is het vanaf 16 jaar legaal om elektrische voertuigen (steps, hoverboards, etc.) tot 25 km/h en brommers tot 25 km/h aan 50cc te besturen zonder rijbewijs :D
Voor voertuigen tot 45 km/h heb je rijbewijs AM nodig en is een helm verplicht...
Goeie review trouwens ;-)
w0tttttt ik moet een rijbewijs hebben voor n scooter
Volgens mij is het illegaal in België omdat het niet valt onder 'elektrische' fiets die intussen wel regels kent. Een gemotoriseerd voertuig (zonder verplichte pedaalsturing) moet je 'inschrijven' voor een nummerplaat, verzekering, helm, knipperlichten... Daartegenover staat dat er nog niet genoeg van deze nieuwe dingen op straat zijn en dat het dus niet veel zin heeft om er nieuwe regels voor te maken.
Persoonlijk vind ik dat we elektrische voertuigen moeten promoten door bvb. geen regels op te leggen voor alles wat elektrisch is en de onder 25km/u zit. Het is immers al het geval voor de elektrische fietsen. Op die manier zullen meer mensen er voor kiezen en blijft het veilig genoeg. (Immers voor hoofdletsels is een auto gevaarlijker en daar is toch ook geen helm verplicht tenzij misschien op circuit)
Moet nog steeds een vezekeringsplaatje op tho
De limiet is 18 km/u voor "voortbewegingstoestellen". Die worden dan gelijkgesteld met een fiets of een voetganger naargelang hoe snel je gaat. Dus moest xiaomi die step begrenzen kan het wel
About the legality, it falls under the same as other electric vehicles. Technically illegal over 25k's. It's the same rules as e-skateboarding, but I've never had trouble with the police before. Just been stopped a few times for riding at night
Now you see theme everywhere in Belgium XD !
10/10 on that Miata. I drive a green 99 and you just reassured me that the scooter would fit. Fat thumbs up
Why does xiaomi dont sell their ebikes here in europe in a Shop? everybody would Buy their ebikes. Top Quality, nice Price.
they also have a licence for selling it in europe, but they dont use it!!!
That's due to their policy. They cut costs by not having stores. You can only get their products from the internet or retailers.
i'll sell you one. 549 incl. tax but you have to pick it up in Ghent or Brussels :p
MidiFire Does it come with a free muslim migrant? Just asking...
They do. In Spain there are i think 3 shops
Tibor Klein Next time you use these kinda words that harass some race.
You will have company. Trust me, I'm Muslim and won't have your words on my back.
Trust me, Findig your IP isn't complicated for muslims.
We will send someone to look at your house.. in couple of months you will delete that comment.
Looks so smooth to ride. Need to find a good reason to buy one of these
Great review man, merci! Cheers from Sydney
I got a car and a motorcycle and now a 700watt kick scooter in time like these we change our ways to save money, wrong to say that I got one since they are really fun to ride :D and the fact that I'm going to work in my hometown for the next two years
Just as he was talking about the legality of it.... check out the traffic signs right after 6:22 -> aren't you going the wrong way, mate?
Nope, only if he was riding a bike, motor or car.
That's as far as our laws go at the moment.
Also if you drive drunk on a bike in the wrong direction they can take your car permit.
The maximum speed for electric scooters, wheel chairs and hover boards is being raised from 18 to 25 km/h - June 2019 Belgium. So you were partially legal :) You need to wear head protection though.
You have Xiaomi M187 Youth Edition, not M365. Please correct it.
I am seriously considering this. I have a Dahon folding bike, but it does take a few minutes to fold up or to restore to a riding state and is heavy to carry around. You invariably arrive at your destination covered in perspiration and that is the greatest problem with cycling. As with cycling, it will be highly advisable to wear a helmet.
Thank you for talking about the weight limit.. (next)
Regarding the legality, I think this falls under the new category of electric bikes EU made in the beginning of 2018 - L1e-A, which includes electric bikes with throttle (not pedal assistance) up to 1kW.
You live in belgium? I initially thought it was the case just seeing the park at 1:30 then saw a sign for lokeren.
It's legal in Belgium. EU laws say under 500w. And under 25kmh. Is perfectly legal no licence no helmet.
It will have the same rights as a bycycle in 2019-2020 with the new trafic code.
Question: what if the battery is empty, can you use ut as a standard step ?
It is one of the cheaper scooters that are good, Never set a foot wrong apart from the punctures (They are a known thing and can be very hard to replace) It is also one of the lighter ones,
Try 1,778.34 Euro and 28kg for expensive and heavy
We have these in San Francisco but it’s called a bird and you have to scan a qr code and pay money to use it
They just bought these
Actually, Xiaomi acquired Segway. :D
I have the full model, I go to work with it every day, that is 20km 5 days a week. It works!
There is a shared scooter service in brussels so it should be legal.Espescially because it is similar to e-bikes and only assists you.
These fall in the same regulations as electric skateboards do, they are perfectly legal unless you ride them too fast. I skate my boosted board all over gent and have not been stopped once. You will need family insurance to cover any damage to 3rd parties, but almost everyone has that. Good review!
I bet that gent was upset you skated over him, though.
ah, Belgium and its regulations ...
by the way, we are probably train-mates :D
I do Mechelen and Ghent.
It is legal, the law says that the max speed should be 25hm/h and max power is 250W with pedal assist or pushing as you do on a scooter
its for kids; 75kg max weight for tires and 100 max for the whole scooter;
MhUser no it’s not for kids, there is a kid version though I believe
I have nightmare visions of hitting a rock and falling on my face but I can see myself buying one in a few years.
What about punctured tires? Heard a lot about those. Any problems so far with the tires?
None for me yet. Fingers crossed
i had, you can prevent it by slime, bigger hit is cut the tube easily, of course, you can fix it by bicycle repair kit
I can recomend you solid tires ua-cam.com/video/sRNEt1BllYE/v-deo.html
solid = increased vibration not good for cell pack welds
That scooter looks light and the tire is small and looks durable. I think it wont get flat tires. It just depends on how you use it.
I had to do a lot of my own research on E-bikes to see if it was legal where I live in the U.S. I found all kinds of State, City, and County laws, all a little different and some badly in need of updating. E-bike forums gave me the best information as people who actually use them on bike paths have had no problems from police and probably won't until one is involved in a serious accident. It's probably the same with E-scooters. The tech is so new it will probably take awhile for the laws to catch up. About the app, I would put the phone on the handle bars so the app would probably come in handy for me. Good review, thanks.
eh, they all are like 400 eu, wish it was at least 300
he has the youth edition which costs about 329€ on ebay www.ebay.at/itm/352565193263?ul_noapp=true
Could someone please explain this headline! "Review Why you shouldn't buy a folding bike".
It sounds like the guy actually loves this scooter ?
Thanks for using metric units
Funny watching this scooter overtake Uber Eats on a pushbike at 5.20
cheaper and better than Brompton.. nice!
well, cheaper for sure
Hard to go back to bicycles the scooters are so convenient and fun to cruise around on. Dualtron are so good if you looking for more fun