Thanks for watching! We had so much fun diving into DnD content to make this video. There's so much more we didn't get the chance to cover! What other DnD media would you recommend watching?
Dungeon Meshi is entirely unrelated to D&D, it is not D&D media. Claiming it is, is a stretch at best. The only thing they have in common is the fantasy genre.
@@sophiescott143 Ryoko Kui drew inspiration for her manga from D&D rulebooks and novels, as well as Japanese RPGs like Wizardry, which is heavily influenced by D&D. So, I disagree. They have much more in common than just the fantasy genre.
Fun facts about the author! 1) I'm pretty sure she's stated that she's actually a picky eater. 2) She rushed to finish the manga (not to say the ending is rushed-it ends very satisfactorily), so she could play Baldurs Gate 3 uninterrupted and has drawn some fan art for it. 3) She's aggressively elusive. There are little to no pictures of her; she has only a handful of interviews done and literally has no social media presence. 4) I mentioned before that she played Bladurs Gate 3, but that's only one of the many games she talked about playing. She's played others like Red Dead Redemption 2, The Witcher 3, and Cyberpunk 2077 (which is her all-time favorite). 5) The biggest inspiration for Dungeon Meshi is a slew of fantasy games and novels (shes noted to have read Lord of the Rings, etc.). But the biggest inspiration is by far Wizardry, and the second biggest would be The Legend of Grimrock.
She doesn't play DnD but she plays Wizardry, you can find an old post from her blog about the build of each Dungeon Meshi character would have in Wizardry. That interview is just shit and they asked a yes or no question about DnD, not about tabletop games in general.
but she said she plays wizardy a lot (a old school dungeon crawler) when she was a child, even the races are exactly the same as wizardry (and that's why kobolds are dogs)
Dungeon Meshi really reminds me of old Advance DnD in just the ways they navigate the dungeons and surviving in it. We didnt eat the monsters but there was so many times of clutch near death moments that this anime reminds me off and how we spent half of it half naked beating monsters to death with rusted swords and turning giant dead snakes into makeshift loot sacks.
Yeah, that's primarily because Japan hasn't really had any kind of relationship with D&D since the 80's. The woman who took over TSR (and ran it into the ground, resulting in the WotC buyout) scoffed at the idea of working with Japan because she hated nerds and nerd culture and decided one-sidedly that "nobody would be interested in anything out of Japan" when the Record of Lodoss War guys (who based their own game on the original D&D system) approached wanting to make Lodoss an official D&D setting. Prior to 'That Woman', under Gygax and co, TSR had welcomed the Japanese market, even going so far as to publish the content in Japanese and the Mystara content even got brand new artwork just for the Japanese release. That's also why you see a TON of D&D inspired artwork in Japanese media in the 70s and the 80s, from anime to videogames (Castlevania's boxart is straight up lifted from Ravenloft, at that). Honestly, I miss that era the most because of the more down-to-earth sword and sorcery aesthetics as opposed to everything about D&D now feeling like it's a Marvel movie. After 'That Woman' shunned the Japan market, though, Japan went off and did its own thing and made its own game systems -- and WotC has never pursued the Japanese market since taking over the brand either.
In Mutant you eat mutant monsters. There are no normal animals, everything including several PCs are mutants. An ordinary farm animal can be a fire-bfeathing goat thing. The challenge in Mutant is to learn how to prep these things. Some mutant beasts are poisonous or carry parasites unless cooked. Some just taste like mud. Local taboos can affect certain animals. Sometimes the thing is a delicacy, worth treasure. You can approximate how many rations it produces by using size or strength/con or something.
i finally realized why in the dnd movie the intellect devourers passed the group by. a bard, barbarian, sorcerer, and a paladin; they didnt even have two braincells between them.
Yep yep. ahahah once you releize it you cant unsee it. It was awsome. When they walked passed im like..ahaha respectable. non of them are int stat mains :p some people didnt get it they where like why is the sorcerer not being attacked. Im like becouse the Sorc is Charisma based of corse :p
It really feels like Dungeon Crawl Classics to me. There is a Fighter, Dwarf, Elf and Halfling. (Yes, those are all classes). The way they are forced to relly more on cunning and cenario interaction rather than pure uses of spells really sends home how it feels to play DCC.
Or the Wizard and the Elf both spellburn 15+ points each to summon an already massive demon toad then cast an enlarge spell so beefed up that the thing grows 50 feet tall...
Also, every player group has a quirk. For some it's collecting books, or visiting shrines, and for this one is cooking anything and everything. And the best part is that the worldbuilding of the "DM" helps the narrative that the players want to encounter. It feels like the best dnd you ever played.
NGL when I saw the trailer my first thought was “pass” I didn’t need some food anime. But a mixture of people saying it was good and me being bored one day I tried it… damn I enjoyed it so much as a DnD player. Especially as a DM I wanted to steal some stuff from the show to implement in my own game. They could make a setting book for this and it would be fantastic.
Been working on my own DnD world to try to play with my family for the past year, never DM'ed or even played a TTRPG of this scale before but this video has given so much inspiration and guidance to how I want to try to DM. Many thanks for the fantastic video!
Nice video. Kudos to the producers behind the anime, for giving it a decent budget, and studio trigger for a good job. Anime is full of good stories getting poor adaptations, and therefore the story/source material doesn't get more recognition. Dungeon Meshi is have it's moment in the spotlight and deserves it!
DinD is a fantastic show. i was so blown away, as i am not a "normal anime guy", and don't really watch much or often. but DinD was binged over 2 days and i can't wait for the second season!
I DO really like how D&D naturally builds in flaws for your characters, not just in backgrounds, but yes, in stats. Unless you 'roll your stats at home', you are very likely to roll some good and bad stats (or if you sensibly use point buy, you have to choose between being good at some things and bad at others, or very average at everything.) This character is also just that, a character, with a background and personality, which can have more flaws, which you can choose to relate to your stats or not!
One of my favorite D&D characters was a battle master fighter where I rolled stupid-amazing stats. I think they were 18, 17, 17, 16, 16, & 15. I ended up playing her like Sterling Archer; incredibly talented and capable, but also hedonistic, habitually drunk, and usually not taking things very seriously unless the situation was really dire.
@@trequor I actually don't roll alot of characters lol, it's because I use Point Buy, where you can choose your stats. That's what I was saying, that you can choose to be good at a couple things or ok at everything.
Man, my character luck is either really good or really ass. I had a +5 and -4 on the same character at level 3. Bro had the wisdom of a child but the intelligence of a god.
All those years playing Dungeons & Dragons with my nerdy bros. during my formative years I can honestly say we never once BBQ’ed the Giant Dungeon Rats that we coup de grâce’d in a First Level Dungeon Crawl…. After watching this show maybe we should have?!? To quote the little Hobbit guy in this series: “All This Time and I Never Knew This DUNGEON had so much YUMMY STUFF in it !!!”
@@wackyruss You ate mutant monsters in Mutant. There are no normal animals. Typical countryside food is a soup on predatory grass. The big challenge was to prepare things safely. You need to know which monsters are poisonous and which ones need to be cooked eight hours. Some are weird, like an explosive rodent you should absolutely not cook.
I usually play animals as relying on instinctive behaviour. They are not always smart, but they might have an instinct to chase people who run or to hide and ambush.
@@SusCalvin It's the inconsistency that bothers me. Disarming the party is smart, closing to melee range is dumb and is clearly the result of the DM panicking and trying to give the party a chance to fight back. Maybe I'm a little too observant for my own good but when the hand of the DM is that obvious it breaks immersion for me.
@studentofsmith When the players learn animal instincts, they can start to trick them. An animal might not recognize a trap or a gun or magic. I guessed the froggos wanted to munch them. They can't pull a whole person into their mouth with the tongue. They felt like ambush predators who want to jump down hard on people as a group.
No idea how using goodberry is bad rp. I think the druid ignoring the fact that they could trivially solve the party's food problem is way worse. Also, in a campaign where half the PCs will end up as literal gods means struggling to find food becomes increasingly silly. survival =/= roleplaying
There is this one session in my campaign where we were getting a moon elf from captivity to prevent them from being killed so we were gonna have a we went there. We went to the village. We were deciding who goes in so we had our sorcerer, mechanist and Rogue. Simple go in and go out right no our sorcerer kept bumping into tables and dropping mugs and then when we finally got to the door, the rogue forgot to trap check and activated the alarm so we had to run and the entire city went on lockdown. Don’t worry we escaped
It's noteworthy that in Japan, most D&D content is firmly rooted in the 1st and 2nd Edition Era, which is why things like Dungeon Meshi and Goblin Slayer have a Gygaxian 'Delve' feel to them as opposed to modern D&D's "Guardians of the Galaxy" approach. Magic isn't over the top and spammable, most of the armor is pretty functional, nobody is pulling out ludicrous multi-phase super-powered moves at level 5, etc. Instead you're just a bunch of normal adventurers in a world where the fatality rate of your chosen employment is astonishingly high, to the point where nobody is just casually doing it "for the thrills." Mind you, that's primarily because Japan hasn't really had any kind of relationship with D&D since the 80's. The woman who took over TSR (and ran it into the ground, resulting in the WotC buyout) scoffed at the idea of working with Japan because she hated nerds and nerd culture and decided one-sidedly that "nobody would be interested in anything out of Japan" when the Record of Lodoss War guys (who based their own game on the original D&D system) approached wanting to make Lodoss an official D&D setting. Prior to 'That Woman', under Gygax and co, TSR had welcomed the Japanese market, even going so far as to publish the content in Japanese and the Mystara content even got brand new artwork just for the Japanese release. That's also why you see a TON of D&D inspired artwork in Japanese media in the 70s and the 80s, from anime to videogames (Castlevania's boxart is straight up lifted from Ravenloft, at that). Honestly, I miss that era the most because of the more down-to-earth sword and sorcery aesthetics as opposed to everything about D&D now feeling like it's a Marvel movie. After 'That Woman' shunned the Japan market, though, Japan went off and did its own thing and made its own game systems -- and WotC has never pursued the Japanese market since taking over the brand either.
Your weird insistence of "that woman" like a bad Stewie Griffin impersonation coupled with "X didnt do Y cause they personally hate [me] and not just cold business metrics' gives off such weird incel vibes on an otherwise informative post. Businesses aren't piloted by single people and trying to pin the blame on some imaginary beef with them (Ironically, the fact so many people are involved in decisions is often the REASON things end up as poop as they do) is kinda childish.
@@oshkeet Yeah, no. If you don't actually KNOW anything about the TSR takeover situation, then please, kindly shut up and spare everyone your Tumblr feminist "incel" quips. The term "That Woman" is literally an in-joke, which just really outs you for the ignorant cultural tourist that you are, coming into the fandom only after it's been popularized by shiny famous people and wanting to take your selfie in front of it and pretending you know anything because you read a brochure. That, quite frankly, is far more childish. Heck, you wanna refer to my remarks as 'Stewie Griffin' like? You're basically Brian. Pretentious and arrogant despite only having a basic level knowledge about anything, but thinking it makes you smarter than everyone else.
@@oshkeet And your weird Brian Griffin-like insistance on pretending like you have the slightest idea about anything is giving off immense tourist vibes on what is ultimately a post that serves no purpose other than for you to try and pretend like you're superior to a stranger on the internet. Next time spare the rest of us your pretention.
Very weird that you refer to the one that took head of the company as 'That Woman', like atleast cite her saying she hates nerdy stuff and that's why they don't work with Japan, you could also just get her actual name if she really was that important
My headcannon is if Delicious in Dungeon just a game of DND then Senshi and Falin are the same player. Senshi and Laios get a long well and even share the same interests, and its really funny by the mininal interactions Senshi and Falin have with each other because that player would have to talk to themselves.
@@TrixyTrixter this is not a case of "i'm not a "painter", but i can see you did a shit job painting this wall" how can she understand something she didn't interact with before? especially when it's about a subject that has a lot of things specific only to it? The truth is that she played other games that had similar things to dnd in them. that's it.
The headcannon of this anime's fanbase is on a different level, lol.If they say every character is gey, every characyter is gey. If they say the author plays dnd, the author palys dnd, period.
@@belldrop7365 yup. like with marcille and falin. the author herself said that they aren't gay and yet, the "special" fans still say they are gay and act like it's the absolute truth and if you don't agree with them or try to correct them, you are a monster
I just wanted to say this is an amazingly well put together video. This is the first time ive seen your channel but your own narritive throught the entire video and just how well layed out it is is truely impressive.
The concept of a dungeon as alien ecology, but with internal rationalities you can learn, is pretty fun. I don't know if everything has to be a direct D&D equivalent. The general principles of dungeoneering can be used in different games. One event I liked was that Namari and Shuro straight up resigned. Your goons are not fanatically loyal, they got stuff to do. And they don't disappear from the world, they can still be encountered.
Not one minute into the video, and YOU, sir, have proven to me that you understand the game by correctly identifying Senshi as the ranger. You've earned yourself a sub.
I’m gonna need an explanation. Beyond knowing the intricacies of the Dungeon’s ecosystem and having great survival skills, how is Senshi a ranger? I don’t see the play style, and yes, I know that rangers don’t have to use ranged weapons.
there really are several moments in the show that remind me of DnD like marccille with the kraken and waterwalking spell that feels like it should not of worked but she rolled a 20 and the DM went fine and let it
Abusing spells is a tradition in OSR. There is often no roll to spells, you force an effect on reality. Spells often outline effects but not the full details. You would need to convince me. This is not a roll.
Marcille actually seems like a Divine Soul Sorcerer to me. she has resurrection magic which no wizards get, she does a lot of explosions (fire spells) and she isn't packing a lot of the utility that would normally be expected from a wizard. her being a divine soul sorcerer checks all the boxes: mostly combat magic with a bit of cleric utility (again the resurrection, but also buffing party members). she's definitely low-wisdom and I'd say she's just got Arcana and Nature proficiencies to explain her book.
goblins are INCREDIBLY dangerous when you use them how they're supposed to be used. throughout my recent campaigns ran I've probably had at least 2-3 players get downed due to goblins. It makes all my combat tense and makes it more engaging for my entire party.
Of course they are. Just think of Tucker's Kobolds. Yes, kobolds are no gobbos, but stat-wise they are very similar. Both are usually low-level humanoid creatures that become deadly by vast numbers and their mischievous cleverness.
Finally someone gives it the praise it deserves. At first the food hooked me but over time I found this is THE best DnD animation I’ve seen. And yes, better than the „official“ Vox Machina. It’s fine for S1 but it lost me by the first couple episodes S2. Can’t wait for more DiD.
20:27 yes, but also wizardry EXTREMELY wizardry, with wiz 6 being cited as one of the biggest inspirations for it, as that game, unlike most previous entries, focused on a party trapped inside a dungeon, without a town to go back to
what the rogue is capable of in one turn is kinda over the top, carving the frogskin, making mitts, pulling the tentacle, seems like the first two were rolled into one bonus action with cunning action, but it could be argued that the skin of a frog is one item and you are doing *one* thing with it.
Dungeon Meshi is an example of how some TTRPG session ended up. Wacky with a lot of improv to make up for things failed. On the other hand, Goblin Slayer is the example of fully functional D&D session where everyone only do improv to make things better and absolutely necessary.
Its halarius how i played with my cusin a made up D&D game that had no rules or a board game as kids then later on figured out D&D existed and was like we been playing D&D without knowing
How much luck influences a game: We had a group whipe because of ONE SINGLE enemy that critted us constantly and us getting one bad roll after another. Thankfully our dm didnt want to end the campaign and neither did we so we had an inworld solution fitting to the problem. But that was probably the most memorable encounter we ever had
Can't agree more! No TTRPG gamer will take D&D in the question as the brand but as "Medieval, high fantasy, table top role playing game of some sort"? The thing is not the magic, sword, group or monsters. It is adapting to the circustances and covering each other's weaknesses.
Contrats on being the first ever video of a subscribed channel that did not appear in my subscriptions feed. :( Luckily the home tab recommended it to me, but that's only after I way done watching all the videos of channels I'm subscribed to.
Meine Chaotischte Pen and Paper Situation war als Ich (DM) meine Gruppe zu einer Flucht aus einem Militärischen Lager bewegen wollte und auf einmal der Magier der Gruppe sagt er will eine Karte aus dem Deck of Many things ziehen will. Ich lasse das zu in dem Gedanken das das die Situation wahrscheinlich nicht unbedingt besser machen würde… Ja falsch gelegen er zieht (ich meine es war Herz Dame) was ihm den Spell Wish 3 mal zur Verfügung stellt. Ja das Lager war nach einem wish spell eine große Party Maile. Hatte aber die Auswirkungen das das zugehörige Land den Krieg verliert und Abertausende Bauern starben. Was willste machen😊
I think Delicious in Dungeon and Goblin Slayer are the only D&D fantasy anime out there, in the sense that a lot of the conflict relies on the items they have, or the skills available to them
Uh!? Seemingly attributing Dungeon Meshi's creation to D&D is.... something. D&D only popularized something that is beyond logic (telling a story of different people in a setting). And the the specific systems it uses bare no weight in Dungeon Meshi. Had you said Wizardry (which her father played and she observed as a child, as many OTHER things) and explored more than "the most popular thing" is somewhat insulting. Specially considering she just made a good story with things that make sense. Boxing it as a Dungeons and Dragons thing only!?
I feel like a lot of people just assume she was inspired by D&D and stop their research there. Kinda annoying, to be honest. This video seems less about "Delicious in Dungeon is inspired by D&D" and more trying to pitch fans of one to the other by making VERY broad comparisons.
The fighter, the master of all weapons, doesn't have a basic ranged option or secondary weapons to hand, let alone the half-a-dozen dirty tricks you might expect of an experienced player. They deserved to lose to frogs.
I think it's a running joke that Laios is not actually a very good fighter. He has a failed military career behind him that he deserted from. One of them had a bow, but lost it.
Thanks for watching! We had so much fun diving into DnD content to make this video. There's so much more we didn't get the chance to cover! What other DnD media would you recommend watching?
@@Beghast-tv goblin slayer is a beautiful manga(anime is not recommended) and Frieren: Beyond Journey's End is Both an amazing manga and anime.
Record of Lodoss War was a DnD campaign.
Legend of Vox Machina!
Dungeon Meshi is entirely unrelated to D&D, it is not D&D media. Claiming it is, is a stretch at best. The only thing they have in common is the fantasy genre.
@@sophiescott143 Ryoko Kui drew inspiration for her manga from D&D rulebooks and novels, as well as Japanese RPGs like Wizardry, which is heavily influenced by D&D. So, I disagree. They have much more in common than just the fantasy genre.
Fun facts about the author!
1) I'm pretty sure she's stated that she's actually a picky eater.
2) She rushed to finish the manga (not to say the ending is rushed-it ends very satisfactorily), so she could play Baldurs Gate 3 uninterrupted and has drawn some fan art for it.
3) She's aggressively elusive. There are little to no pictures of her; she has only a handful of interviews done and literally has no social media presence.
4) I mentioned before that she played Bladurs Gate 3, but that's only one of the many games she talked about playing. She's played others like Red Dead Redemption 2, The Witcher 3, and Cyberpunk 2077 (which is her all-time favorite).
5) The biggest inspiration for Dungeon Meshi is a slew of fantasy games and novels (shes noted to have read Lord of the Rings, etc.). But the biggest inspiration is by far Wizardry, and the second biggest would be The Legend of Grimrock.
Wonderful! I can totally see inspiration for Legend of Grim Rock.
Do your remember where you got point 4? Was it that famitsu interview or something else?
>facts
>1) I'm pretty sure
clown much? 🤡 😂
Rushing to finish your manga to play Baldur's Gate is exactly what a Baldur's Gate player would do
@@matheuskerr9222 most common rage bait detected
Funnily enough, the creator said in an interview, that she never played DnD or is a good cook.
She plays baldur's gate thought.
She doesn't play DnD but she plays Wizardry, you can find an old post from her blog about the build of each Dungeon Meshi character would have in Wizardry.
That interview is just shit and they asked a yes or no question about DnD, not about tabletop games in general.
but she said she plays wizardy a lot (a old school dungeon crawler) when she was a child, even the races are exactly the same as wizardry (and that's why kobolds are dogs)
Ah yes, my favorite trope in reality: Doesn't have experience, weirdly good at it
She was inspired by wizardry
Dungeon Meshi really reminds me of old Advance DnD in just the ways they navigate the dungeons and surviving in it. We didnt eat the monsters but there was so many times of clutch near death moments that this anime reminds me off and how we spent half of it half naked beating monsters to death with rusted swords and turning giant dead snakes into makeshift loot sacks.
It definitely has an AD&D feel where the classes are a lot more defined and dungeon ecology is heavily emphasized
Yeah, that's primarily because Japan hasn't really had any kind of relationship with D&D since the 80's. The woman who took over TSR (and ran it into the ground, resulting in the WotC buyout) scoffed at the idea of working with Japan because she hated nerds and nerd culture and decided one-sidedly that "nobody would be interested in anything out of Japan" when the Record of Lodoss War guys (who based their own game on the original D&D system) approached wanting to make Lodoss an official D&D setting.
Prior to 'That Woman', under Gygax and co, TSR had welcomed the Japanese market, even going so far as to publish the content in Japanese and the Mystara content even got brand new artwork just for the Japanese release. That's also why you see a TON of D&D inspired artwork in Japanese media in the 70s and the 80s, from anime to videogames (Castlevania's boxart is straight up lifted from Ravenloft, at that). Honestly, I miss that era the most because of the more down-to-earth sword and sorcery aesthetics as opposed to everything about D&D now feeling like it's a Marvel movie.
After 'That Woman' shunned the Japan market, though, Japan went off and did its own thing and made its own game systems -- and WotC has never pursued the Japanese market since taking over the brand either.
Yeah Dungeon Meshi feels a lot more like old-school D&D (OD&D, AD&D, and B/X). It's based off of Wizardry, which was based off of D&D.
Because Japan RPG are built on wizardry based on adnd
In Mutant you eat mutant monsters. There are no normal animals, everything including several PCs are mutants. An ordinary farm animal can be a fire-bfeathing goat thing.
The challenge in Mutant is to learn how to prep these things. Some mutant beasts are poisonous or carry parasites unless cooked. Some just taste like mud. Local taboos can affect certain animals. Sometimes the thing is a delicacy, worth treasure.
You can approximate how many rations it produces by using size or strength/con or something.
i finally realized why in the dnd movie the intellect devourers passed the group by. a bard, barbarian, sorcerer, and a paladin; they didnt even have two braincells between them.
Yep yep. ahahah once you releize it you cant unsee it. It was awsome. When they walked passed im like..ahaha respectable. non of them are int stat mains :p some people didnt get it they where like why is the sorcerer not being attacked. Im like becouse the Sorc is Charisma based of corse :p
Isn't Marcille a wizard though? She even went to a wizarding school. Even got the books and all. Definitely NOT a sorcerer
@@straypaperthat was about D&D movie, Honor Among Thieves.
Yea, tho very honestly, the way the Bard is portrayed there is more like a Mastermind Rogue with Magic Initiate: Bard, or 1 Bard Level
Isn't that, like, even brought up in the movie?
It really feels like Dungeon Crawl Classics to me.
There is a Fighter, Dwarf, Elf and Halfling. (Yes, those are all classes).
The way they are forced to relly more on cunning and cenario interaction rather than pure uses of spells really sends home how it feels to play DCC.
I would like to play it some day
Or the Wizard and the Elf both spellburn 15+ points each to summon an already massive demon toad then cast an enlarge spell so beefed up that the thing grows 50 feet tall...
Only played Level 0 funnel part of game, but it was fun. Too bad that GM wasn't interested in running actual adventure tho.
Generally OSR (which I guess odnd clones are too so still correct!)
Also, every player group has a quirk. For some it's collecting books, or visiting shrines, and for this one is cooking anything and everything. And the best part is that the worldbuilding of the "DM" helps the narrative that the players want to encounter. It feels like the best dnd you ever played.
she literally stopped the manga faster cause she wanted to play Baldur's Gate 😭
@@P1guTV I don't know if you read it, but it has a pretty slow, cozy ending. An entire epilogue volume.
NGL when I saw the trailer my first thought was “pass” I didn’t need some food anime. But a mixture of people saying it was good and me being bored one day I tried it… damn I enjoyed it so much as a DnD player. Especially as a DM I wanted to steal some stuff from the show to implement in my own game. They could make a setting book for this and it would be fantastic.
That intro sequence was awesome!
Great explanation of D&D! Together with Dungeon Meshi makes it extremely inviting.
Been working on my own DnD world to try to play with my family for the past year, never DM'ed or even played a TTRPG of this scale before but this video has given so much inspiration and guidance to how I want to try to DM. Many thanks for the fantastic video!
You're ready! Have fun!
@@2smexy4juu Good luck!! If you are ever in need, consult the almighty google!!
Nice video. Kudos to the producers behind the anime, for giving it a decent budget, and studio trigger for a good job. Anime is full of good stories getting poor adaptations, and therefore the story/source material doesn't get more recognition. Dungeon Meshi is have it's moment in the spotlight and deserves it!
DinD is a fantastic show. i was so blown away, as i am not a "normal anime guy", and don't really watch much or often. but DinD was binged over 2 days and i can't wait for the second season!
I DO really like how D&D naturally builds in flaws for your characters, not just in backgrounds, but yes, in stats. Unless you 'roll your stats at home', you are very likely to roll some good and bad stats (or if you sensibly use point buy, you have to choose between being good at some things and bad at others, or very average at everything.)
This character is also just that, a character, with a background and personality, which can have more flaws, which you can choose to relate to your stats or not!
Lol clearly you havent rolled too many characters. Randomness produces lots of streaks. Most rolls are not "average" rolls.
One of my favorite D&D characters was a battle master fighter where I rolled stupid-amazing stats. I think they were 18, 17, 17, 16, 16, & 15. I ended up playing her like Sterling Archer; incredibly talented and capable, but also hedonistic, habitually drunk, and usually not taking things very seriously unless the situation was really dire.
@@trequor I actually don't roll alot of characters lol, it's because I use Point Buy, where you can choose your stats. That's what I was saying, that you can choose to be good at a couple things or ok at everything.
Man, my character luck is either really good or really ass. I had a +5 and -4 on the same character at level 3. Bro had the wisdom of a child but the intelligence of a god.
Its truly fascinating how well this story is written
I kinda hope Ryoko Kui will make a DND or Pathfinder playbook based on her world.
I hope it is Pathfinder though, because I have vowed never to give gold to WOTC again. :)
All those years playing Dungeons & Dragons with my nerdy bros. during my formative years I can honestly say we never once BBQ’ed the Giant Dungeon Rats that we coup de grâce’d in a First Level Dungeon Crawl…. After watching this show maybe we should have?!?
To quote the little Hobbit guy in this series: “All This Time and I Never Knew This DUNGEON had so much YUMMY STUFF in it !!!”
@@wackyruss You ate mutant monsters in Mutant. There are no normal animals. Typical countryside food is a soup on predatory grass.
The big challenge was to prepare things safely. You need to know which monsters are poisonous and which ones need to be cooked eight hours.
Some are weird, like an explosive rodent you should absolutely not cook.
So, the frogs are smart enough to disarm the party but not smart enough to stay at range. Yeah, that sounds like how a lot of DMs run monsters.
The frogs were probably trained by the orcs as guards for their passage. They were probably waiting for backup that would never arrive
I usually play animals as relying on instinctive behaviour. They are not always smart, but they might have an instinct to chase people who run or to hide and ambush.
@@SusCalvin It's the inconsistency that bothers me. Disarming the party is smart, closing to melee range is dumb and is clearly the result of the DM panicking and trying to give the party a chance to fight back. Maybe I'm a little too observant for my own good but when the hand of the DM is that obvious it breaks immersion for me.
@studentofsmith When the players learn animal instincts, they can start to trick them. An animal might not recognize a trap or a gun or magic.
I guessed the froggos wanted to munch them. They can't pull a whole person into their mouth with the tongue. They felt like ambush predators who want to jump down hard on people as a group.
Goodberry catching strays out here.
Good!
@@Taliesin_Berry
Sorry hehe
No idea how using goodberry is bad rp. I think the druid ignoring the fact that they could trivially solve the party's food problem is way worse. Also, in a campaign where half the PCs will end up as literal gods means struggling to find food becomes increasingly silly.
survival =/= roleplaying
There is this one session in my campaign where we were getting a moon elf from captivity to prevent them from being killed so we were gonna have a we went there. We went to the village. We were deciding who goes in so we had our sorcerer, mechanist and Rogue. Simple go in and go out right no our sorcerer kept bumping into tables and dropping mugs and then when we finally got to the door, the rogue forgot to trap check and activated the alarm so we had to run and the entire city went on lockdown. Don’t worry we escaped
this just made me think what if fallens player wanted to play something else and so made senshi so still be able to make sure the party stayed alive
Falin's player also being Senshi is such a hilarious take but i love it
Immediately, when you said Sengi is a Ranger (Likely closer to Pathfinder than DnD's haft caster), I knew you cooking (heh)
Beghast: In this next part no one is really supposed to die
Meanwhile in ShadowDark: Yep! That's the third PC that died in a session...
Great video! Never thought I would watch the show but now i want to check it out. Love dnd and it seems like this show is a great representation
It's noteworthy that in Japan, most D&D content is firmly rooted in the 1st and 2nd Edition Era, which is why things like Dungeon Meshi and Goblin Slayer have a Gygaxian 'Delve' feel to them as opposed to modern D&D's "Guardians of the Galaxy" approach. Magic isn't over the top and spammable, most of the armor is pretty functional, nobody is pulling out ludicrous multi-phase super-powered moves at level 5, etc. Instead you're just a bunch of normal adventurers in a world where the fatality rate of your chosen employment is astonishingly high, to the point where nobody is just casually doing it "for the thrills."
Mind you, that's primarily because Japan hasn't really had any kind of relationship with D&D since the 80's. The woman who took over TSR (and ran it into the ground, resulting in the WotC buyout) scoffed at the idea of working with Japan because she hated nerds and nerd culture and decided one-sidedly that "nobody would be interested in anything out of Japan" when the Record of Lodoss War guys (who based their own game on the original D&D system) approached wanting to make Lodoss an official D&D setting.
Prior to 'That Woman', under Gygax and co, TSR had welcomed the Japanese market, even going so far as to publish the content in Japanese and the Mystara content even got brand new artwork just for the Japanese release. That's also why you see a TON of D&D inspired artwork in Japanese media in the 70s and the 80s, from anime to videogames (Castlevania's boxart is straight up lifted from Ravenloft, at that). Honestly, I miss that era the most because of the more down-to-earth sword and sorcery aesthetics as opposed to everything about D&D now feeling like it's a Marvel movie.
After 'That Woman' shunned the Japan market, though, Japan went off and did its own thing and made its own game systems -- and WotC has never pursued the Japanese market since taking over the brand either.
Your weird insistence of "that woman" like a bad Stewie Griffin impersonation coupled with "X didnt do Y cause they personally hate [me] and not just cold business metrics' gives off such weird incel vibes on an otherwise informative post. Businesses aren't piloted by single people and trying to pin the blame on some imaginary beef with them (Ironically, the fact so many people are involved in decisions is often the REASON things end up as poop as they do) is kinda childish.
@@oshkeet Yeah, no. If you don't actually KNOW anything about the TSR takeover situation, then please, kindly shut up and spare everyone your Tumblr feminist "incel" quips. The term "That Woman" is literally an in-joke, which just really outs you for the ignorant cultural tourist that you are, coming into the fandom only after it's been popularized by shiny famous people and wanting to take your selfie in front of it and pretending you know anything because you read a brochure. That, quite frankly, is far more childish. Heck, you wanna refer to my remarks as 'Stewie Griffin' like? You're basically Brian. Pretentious and arrogant despite only having a basic level knowledge about anything, but thinking it makes you smarter than everyone else.
@@oshkeet And your weird Brian Griffin-like insistance on pretending like you have the slightest idea about anything is giving off immense tourist vibes on what is ultimately a post that serves no purpose other than for you to try and pretend like you're superior to a stranger on the internet. Next time spare the rest of us your pretention.
@@oshkeet yeah the whole comment could have been a neutral teachable moment and instead came off emotional and whiny.
Very weird that you refer to the one that took head of the company as 'That Woman', like atleast cite her saying she hates nerdy stuff and that's why they don't work with Japan, you could also just get her actual name if she really was that important
I'm glad the author made orcs not as pigmen, but the kobolds are Asian versions who are anthropomorphic dogs.
Not the asian version, kobolds used to be dogs in folklore but that perception has gradually changed
In German folklore they are cats and French dogs
what are you taking about? the orcs here are pig man, their younglins have the baby pig stripes.
Your sentence makes no sense 😊
What are you talking about, they literally still are.
Delicious in Dungeon needs an official TTRPG.
17:49 Zee Bashew in the house! Animated Spell Book!
Love your editing and scripts, keep it up sir 👍🏻🙂
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
My headcannon is if Delicious in Dungeon just a game of DND then Senshi and Falin are the same player.
Senshi and Laios get a long well and even share the same interests, and its really funny by the mininal interactions Senshi and Falin have with each other because that player would have to talk to themselves.
thats really funny considering how marcille treats the two of them on a polar opposite scale
my guy really made a video about how the anime understands D&D after the author confirmed that she never played D&D. lmao
One can understand something without doing it.
@@TrixyTrixter this is not a case of "i'm not a "painter", but i can see you did a shit job painting this wall"
how can she understand something she didn't interact with before? especially when it's about a subject that has a lot of things specific only to it? The truth is that she played other games that had similar things to dnd in them. that's it.
The headcannon of this anime's fanbase is on a different level, lol.If they say every character is gey, every characyter is gey. If they say the author plays dnd, the author palys dnd, period.
@@belldrop7365 yup. like with marcille and falin. the author herself said that they aren't gay and yet, the "special" fans still say they are gay and act like it's the absolute truth and if you don't agree with them or try to correct them, you are a monster
@@belldrop7365if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then it may as well be a duck, what more is there to say
I just wanted to say this is an amazingly well put together video. This is the first time ive seen your channel but your own narritive throught the entire video and just how well layed out it is is truely impressive.
Great video, I hope this channel grows more everyday
The ending to this was the best and craziest ending to a series i have ever seen. one of the most satisfying and freash story in anime.
Hell yea, this is the crossover I was waiting for! Dungeon Meshi is the perfect DnD - The Anime around. Or any ttrpg for that matter!
Loved this video, i had to share it with a couple of my DnD groups
Great video! Shared it with my brother who is interested in picking up the game.
I also now have an anime to watch.
A druid with goodberry goes a long way
Definitely gives Ad&d /OSR vibes
The concept of a dungeon as alien ecology, but with internal rationalities you can learn, is pretty fun.
I don't know if everything has to be a direct D&D equivalent. The general principles of dungeoneering can be used in different games.
One event I liked was that Namari and Shuro straight up resigned. Your goons are not fanatically loyal, they got stuff to do. And they don't disappear from the world, they can still be encountered.
Another great video !
I will watch tomorrow, see ya in 10 hours
It's been 10 hours
Not one minute into the video, and YOU, sir, have proven to me that you understand the game by correctly identifying Senshi as the ranger. You've earned yourself a sub.
I’m gonna need an explanation. Beyond knowing the intricacies of the Dungeon’s ecosystem and having great survival skills, how is Senshi a ranger? I don’t see the play style, and yes, I know that rangers don’t have to use ranged weapons.
After months my goat is back!!!! If quality over quantity was channel it’d be you!!!
as a DM im working on a dungeon meshi adventure rn this video helped me a lot thank you
Fantastic video mate, that script was fire
there really are several moments in the show that remind me of DnD like marccille with the kraken and waterwalking spell that feels like it should not of worked but she rolled a 20 and the DM went fine and let it
Abusing spells is a tradition in OSR. There is often no roll to spells, you force an effect on reality. Spells often outline effects but not the full details.
You would need to convince me. This is not a roll.
I desperately need to know what the music at 15:30 is-- I've been looking for so long 😭
Kikoru - The Storyteller, all of our music is from epidemicsound :)
@@Beghast-tv Thank you so much! Awesome video by the way, definitely will be checking out the anime now :D
People forget its food anime
Very beautiful Video! Thanks for that piece of art! :)
And then there’s Frieren, a L20 min-maxxed to hell and back traveling with a party of L1-L5s
WHOEVER HAD THAT IDEA FOR THAT FINISHING LINE COOKED
bro is cooking only FIRE videos!! Keep the hard work
He skinned a frog,, got twine from his pack, crafted gloves, pulled a vine, All in an action and bonus action...
Also he should have disadvantage to pull the vive because his hands are wrapped in bloody slimy viscera.
It is a whole process. The other three have to play tug of war a while.
Marcille actually seems like a Divine Soul Sorcerer to me. she has resurrection magic which no wizards get, she does a lot of explosions (fire spells) and she isn't packing a lot of the utility that would normally be expected from a wizard. her being a divine soul sorcerer checks all the boxes: mostly combat magic with a bit of cleric utility (again the resurrection, but also buffing party members). she's definitely low-wisdom and I'd say she's just got Arcana and Nature proficiencies to explain her book.
Some games have no separate spell lists.
There is absolutely no mention of gods in DM.
Poor Pilar 😂
This show is a brilliant Master Piece.
So the Fighter also has low Wis, which is the common sense stat.
19:19 i half-expected this fade-transition to have a dramatic steak
goblins are INCREDIBLY dangerous when you use them how they're supposed to be used. throughout my recent campaigns ran I've probably had at least 2-3 players get downed due to goblins. It makes all my combat tense and makes it more engaging for my entire party.
Of course they are. Just think of Tucker's Kobolds. Yes, kobolds are no gobbos, but stat-wise they are very similar. Both are usually low-level humanoid creatures that become deadly by vast numbers and their mischievous cleverness.
@@ReisskIaueIn some interpretations they are not ingenious either. They have the most basic traps. But they roll a huge encounter.
Finally someone gives it the praise it deserves. At first the food hooked me but over time I found this is THE best DnD animation I’ve seen. And yes, better than the „official“ Vox Machina. It’s fine for S1 but it lost me by the first couple episodes S2.
Can’t wait for more DiD.
I got goosebumps at the end there
20:27 yes, but also wizardry
EXTREMELY wizardry, with wiz 6 being cited as one of the biggest inspirations for it, as that game, unlike most previous entries, focused on a party trapped inside a dungeon, without a town to go back to
can i ask where the sprites in 4:14 are from? :O
You think there's gonna be another season.
This was such a masterpiece and was soooo much fun to watch
This is all the more impressive, when you consider that she never played DnD
what the rogue is capable of in one turn is kinda over the top, carving the frogskin, making mitts, pulling the tentacle, seems like the first two were rolled into one bonus action with cunning action, but it could be argued that the skin of a frog is one item and you are doing *one* thing with it.
Wow...i gotta watch this show now. I wrote it off as an s post meme show when it was anounced. I seem to have been completely wrong
Yes
A critical analysis that plays out (see what I did there?) as a damn fine story on its own. Truly well done, folks! 😁😍😎💯👏
This sbow is literally "Long Rests: the Anime."
this is a very sweet love letter to a great anime about a great game :)
Dungeon Meshi is an example of how some TTRPG session ended up. Wacky with a lot of improv to make up for things failed. On the other hand, Goblin Slayer is the example of fully functional D&D session where everyone only do improv to make things better and absolutely necessary.
this was a freaking great video
Its halarius how i played with my cusin a made up D&D game that had no rules or a board game as kids then later on figured out D&D existed and was like we been playing D&D without knowing
I always wanted to try that
i feel like marcil her spells fit the sorcerer more than the wizzard
How much luck influences a game:
We had a group whipe because of ONE SINGLE enemy that critted us constantly and us getting one bad roll after another. Thankfully our dm didnt want to end the campaign and neither did we so we had an inworld solution fitting to the problem. But that was probably the most memorable encounter we ever had
Can't agree more!
No TTRPG gamer will take D&D in the question as the brand but as "Medieval, high fantasy, table top role playing game of some sort"?
The thing is not the magic, sword, group or monsters. It is adapting to the circustances and covering each other's weaknesses.
Teamwork makes the Dream Work ❤
Great video, as a lover of both D&D and Delicious in Dungeon, I really enjoyed this!
(As a side note, what's the song that's used at the end?)
Contrats on being the first ever video of a subscribed channel that did not appear in my subscriptions feed. :( Luckily the home tab recommended it to me, but that's only after I way done watching all the videos of channels I'm subscribed to.
Nicee, please update more often I your chan is absolute nutella
We have to have flaws, otherwise we wouldn't need each other! oOo
That was Fantastic!!
What’s the song from the last part of the video like the last 10 seconds?!? It’s so good!
This is an amazing video, :)
Awesome video, I need the music you used.
great video
Did he call Senshi a RANGER? He is clearly a barbarian. In fact, he is actively against magic! But still, a nice beginning sequence.
This manga is brilliant ^^
I've seen this show! Its is GOOD SHIT. I hope season come out soon!
I fell in love with the manga and I love the anime ❤
Meine Chaotischte Pen and Paper Situation war als Ich (DM) meine Gruppe zu einer Flucht aus einem Militärischen Lager bewegen wollte und auf einmal der Magier der Gruppe sagt er will eine Karte aus dem Deck of Many things ziehen will. Ich lasse das zu in dem Gedanken das das die Situation wahrscheinlich nicht unbedingt besser machen würde… Ja falsch gelegen er zieht (ich meine es war Herz Dame) was ihm den Spell Wish 3 mal zur Verfügung stellt. Ja das Lager war nach einem wish spell eine große Party Maile. Hatte aber die Auswirkungen das das zugehörige Land den Krieg verliert und Abertausende Bauern starben. Was willste machen😊
I think Delicious in Dungeon and Goblin Slayer are the only D&D fantasy anime out there, in the sense that a lot of the conflict relies on the items they have, or the skills available to them
This is a very good interpretation of the manga! and... Random question, anyone knows any fantasy JRPG with super detailed cooking ?
Nice video!
Uh!? Seemingly attributing Dungeon Meshi's creation to D&D is.... something.
D&D only popularized something that is beyond logic (telling a story of different people in a setting). And the the specific systems it uses bare no weight in Dungeon Meshi. Had you said Wizardry (which her father played and she observed as a child, as many OTHER things) and explored more than "the most popular thing" is somewhat insulting. Specially considering she just made a good story with things that make sense. Boxing it as a Dungeons and Dragons thing only!?
I feel like a lot of people just assume she was inspired by D&D and stop their research there. Kinda annoying, to be honest. This video seems less about "Delicious in Dungeon is inspired by D&D" and more trying to pitch fans of one to the other by making VERY broad comparisons.
Where is the footage of the guy slipping and hitting his head on a tub from?
LET THEM COOK
The fighter, the master of all weapons, doesn't have a basic ranged option or secondary weapons to hand, let alone the half-a-dozen dirty tricks you might expect of an experienced player. They deserved to lose to frogs.
I think it's a running joke that Laios is not actually a very good fighter. He has a failed military career behind him that he deserted from.
One of them had a bow, but lost it.