FF7 remake producers: "Okay, so we have outstanding, creative dialogue, an enhanced version of an already deep story and a solid range of characters. What's left?" "What should we name Cloud's mom?" "Errr....Cloudddd......ia?"
Sorry, but I have to nerd out here lol. I believe Cloud's mom had no name in the original FFVII and then in the FFVII ultimania she was named Claudia. The remake producers just kept it in.
Friendly reminder/spoiler that Cloud lost five years of his life so this guy is pretty much a 16 year old stuck in a 21 yo's body. What he needs is a babysitter and a psychologist
Elmyra’s statement about the trade-off of a normal life for power is very poignant. She knew Aerith had probably been hurt deeply by Zack’s absence, and she didn’t want to see it happen again.
Claudia: "an older, more mature girl that could keep you on the straight and narrow -- and tell you when you're being a silly goose." Characters age in FF7 Tifa: 20 Cloud: 21 Aerith: 22
Mrs. Strife: WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET A REAL JOB!?! Cloud: I WILL HAVE A REAL JOB, MOOOM, I'M JOINING SOLDIER!!! Mrs. Strife: I MEAN A REAL JOB WITH BENEFITS!!! Cloud: THEY DO HAVE BENEFITS, MOM!!! Mrs. Strife: A GIANT HUNK OF METAL ON A STICK IS COMPENSATION, NOT A BENEFIT, CLOUD!!! Cloud: IT'S CALLED A "BUSTER SWORD", MOM!!! Mrs. Strife: I DON'T CARE WHAT IT'S CALLED. I'M JUST SAYING THIS BECAUSE I LOVE YOU!!! Cloud: I LOVE YOU TOO, MOM. I COULDN'T IMAGINE LIFE WITHOUT YOU!!!
1:15 a very subtle detail of how Cloud’s memories are clouded with Zack’s: Cloud is shown wearing Zack’s shoulder armor! Cloud is never shown in a SOLDIER uniform with that style of shoulder pads. Those are worn by 1st Class members such as Zack/Angeal. Crazy detail 🤯
Except he is, Zack got him a full 1st class uniform when they escaped the Shinra mansion to get rid of his mako soaked clothes. Crisis core has Cloud in full armor, still it's a nice nod as Cloud didn't get it while Claudia was still alive.
I just realized in 1:15 cloud actually laying down with Zack pose. There's a scene in crisis core when Zack and cloud talks in bedroom about how he wish he were a Soldier. This dream scene shows how he were influenced alot by Zack
Claudia: Woman must be hounding you day and night Cloud: Not if I dress up like a woman... Claudia: Oh I have a dress upsta.. Cloud: I will nail it, I know, thank you. Moving on!
yeah this game is confusing me so much or could it just only be the devs mistake, I'm not sure there's so much symbolism going on that makes your mind go wild LOL
Not a mistake. In Cloud’s dream, he thinks he’s dreaming back to the time right before Sephiroth killed everyone in his village. You could interpret this as Cloud thinking he was still working for Shinra back then. I say this because it’s probably Cloud doesn’t know when he “quit” being Soldier and became a mercenary and if anyone asks him, he’ll start having a migraine
@@sakonan4883 this makes a lot of sense now, actually, in terms of his whole fake identity. I was confused because in CC, Zack gave him the clothes after they escaped (which would be four years after Nibelheim burned). I was confused so thanks for explaining!
Cloud doesn't have Zack's memories. He merely integrated Zack's Nibleheim role into himself because it fit his SOLDIER persona. In Japanese culture, when rejecting someone's feelings, its considered polite to give them a reason why. Saying "its not real" is an excuse to let him save his pride. She simply has a notion of her fate and is trying to spare him that pain. But its too late. It pains her to say it because she loves him. It pains him to hear it because he loves her. ( just copy :)
The ship comments are making me laugh lol everyone’s so bent over who cloud loves LOL he still trying to take care of himself can the guy do that and be a good person to the girls as well lol
I found it funny too, but the funniest thing is that in the remake, Cloud kissed Tifa, and Aerith they had been waiting for died again, and Zack came back to see Aerith this time.This is obviously going to be a happy ending.
When you don't like your daughter's boyfriend and you forbid him to have any more contact with her, and then your daughter runs away from home and you never see her again.
@@Mateoski97 At this point his mom doesn't even know Aerith and she definitely doesn't talk about Tifa specifically because she said 'Older' but we all know the writers meant Aerith because she is older and they were hinting at them. Why else would they put this dream sequence here AFTER he met Aerith? His heart is stolen by her
@@jkranites Oh. *(Checks the game’s Fandom wiki to confirm.)* Oh, yeah, you’re right. It’s in the OG’s notes. #SillyMe 😅 But………wait a hot second. If she was only 33 when she died………and *Cloud* was 16, at that time (also canon - per Crisis Core)……… Then………she would’ve been 17 when he was born. (Or even 16 - depending on when her birthday is.) Gets me thinking………🤔
@@kaliefaul1905 yep. At one point women had kids at 16 once upon a time, especially out in the country. Makes you wonder though; who is his Dad, and why does he look exactly like his mom haha
@@jkranites *Plot twist:* his father isn’t really dead. He just left town (perhaps with some other girl?) - abandoning Claudia and Cloud and, thereby, becoming *“dead”* in the “dead-to-me” sense. Dismiss this if you must, but it would explain MOST of Cloud’s problems in life, even before Crisis Core.
This scene can be interpreted for either girl. Aerith, because Claudia said she wanted an older woman for Cloud. And Tifa, because when cloud woke up, the stars reflected in his eyes from the day he met up with her at the water tower. The theme “a tower, a promise” was playing as well
Claudia couldn't talk about Tifa, lol. Because she was familiar with her . If she was talking about Tifa , she would have said so , but she 's just saying her opinion . And this is Aerith . In Ultimania omega it is written that his mom's words describe Aerith. So it's confirmed
I like the idea that it’s the players choice and it’s honestly easy for me to chose. I ship him with Tifa 100% but I understand why ppl love Aerith. She’s hilarious, blunt, and wholesome
My mother is very much the same. Thinks highly of me(too much) and wants me to find a good girl. And I’m basically Cloud, I don’t think girls are that into me(for real, everyone knows girls actually do like Cloud) and I’m determined to take care of myself.
If it helps, the music during the scene with Cloud's mom is definitely a remake of "Holding my Thoughts in my Heart"... I just don't know what it's called in the remake
I feel like Square and the writers are subtly hinting who Cloud has feelings for. If you pick up on all the hints and clues throughout the game, it’s pretty clear who it is. *hint: It’s the girl with the red jacket and pink dress.
Aerith said not to fall for her because Cloud s feelings may not be real. He s unstable right now because of Sephiroth constantly messing himup, and he was experimented on for 5 years. Cloud may act like a teenager falling for older women and clinging unto them for stability . In AC he showed sign of recovery. And at that time he finally understood what Aerith was for him. A caring sister-like.
Ko. Tsuki Ko No Aerith said that because she knows her fate and does not want Cloud to get hurt. Cloud LOVES her and she KNOWS that. This has already been confirmed in the Ultamania. Clouds feelings for Aerith are real and his own. It’s not because of Zack. Stop twisting it into your own fiction. Cloud only takes up the accomplishments of Zack and a few of his mannerisms. Not his personality or his memories or anything else. What does Cloud say and do when Aerith tells him not to fall in love with her??? He instantly tries to grab her and tells her if has any say in what she said.
@@GOHST13ly They may tell you she loves him, but what kind of love... The one Aerith loves is Zack. Cloud loves her, but soon after he realizes his feelings. The one cloud loves is Tifa. He loves Aerith but his heart always belongs to tifa.
Ko. Tsuki Did you watch Advent Children? The only relationship he and Tifa have is a platonic one. I’m just going off of what I see and read in official games or book. In the games, you have to go out of your way to even give Tifa a chance. There’s more evidence that suggests and implies that Aerith is the woman Cloud loves.
@@GOHST13ly yes I've watched it. he loves Aerith but his Heart belongs to tifa. I understand you don't have patience for two people to grow and get confident on their feelings. It s okay to ship them together but at the end of the day, they were not meant for each other.
This is a lovely foreshadowing I’d say, when Claudia says that’s the perfect type for you I’d say, and when Cloud opened his eyes in 1:59 his eyes are that of a starry night sky, and who is that girl again? That he made a promise on a starry night sky? His mom might prefer he dates an older girl, but Cloud’s perfect type is literally seen in his eyes when he woke up. 😍❤️🍷 Just Beautiful
It feels like he woke up, remembered his promise to Tifa, then decided to leave in the middle of the night to get back to Sector 7 asap so he could reunite with Tifa and let her know he is safe.
In the shot of Cloud's eyes opening, a few bars of "A tower, a promise" plays. And I think I've seen more than one article describing Tifa as mature. Interesting that...
@@aoto8897 I know right, Aerith is older and she literally called him "silly", aand she's mature she guided Cloud very well every time he had headaches or was mind controlled by Sephiroth. And Aerith knows her fate yet she doesn't run away from it, how is that not mature? Tifa is shy/reserved that doesn't mean mature, she's actually like school girl in some situations.
Calling someone a *silly goose* means you think that they need to stop being nervous or childish and get the job done. -Google Who told him to quit dilly dallying?
If I'm correct: Clouds dream is if cloud home was never burnt down and he made it to soldier first class he visits his mother to tell her the news and proven by the buster sword zack either died or has passed it onto cloud and decided to quit soldier or probably this can ve what happened after crisis core where cloud pays his home one last time before he starts his journey as a merc
It's very difficult to figure out because Crisis core has a crappy plot that contradicts the original in a bunch of moments. A terrible prequel, a terrible story, a terrible Aerith in Crisis core, only Zack is interesting to watch
Claudia comments point to Aerith being the older girl and calling cloud silly in Aeriths resolution scene and the OG. However, the music playing through this scene "a tower, a promise" is very much Tifa. Then Cloud waking up with starry eyes, his thoughts are Tifa.
@@hawk1513 I think he remembered that because he thought he found someone that fits that description. But was suddenly asked to leave her without a word. Because hes not good for her according to the mom.
@Ian yeah your right that scene does meet the description of Aerith and he isn't welcome so he leaves. square does things intentionally the starry eyes and the song playing is very much the promise. songs in ff7 are used with a message and song titles have a big clue to what is happening or inner thoughts/feelings. so the fact that the way cloud wakes up really shows what square is hinting here.
@@hawk1513 Yes but in my opinion, it was played that time because cloud is reminiscing a scene from nibelheim. And that tower promise suits the place regardless of tifa. I mean they could just use the nibelheim theme but its kinda gloomy and sad so it wont fit here. Just make take.
Well,english translation is biased. She didn't say that originally. She only said mature. But ofc for the western audience, they try to keep the LTD alive. Plus, Claudia KNEW who Cloud held in his heart (Tifa). She was only teasing and FISHING about his lovelife since he temps to keep everything inside. And this comes from the latest Official Ultimania.
Cloud dreams of his mom in Aerirths house, his mom knows Tifa she did not say Tifa and where did Cloud grow up and Tifa? Nibelheim, so of course it will be the same theme the theme even plays in Crisis Core when Zack goes to Nibelheim. Cloud mom KNOWS Tifa and she didn't say Tifa and the theme is Nibelheim, it has nothing to do with Tifa. Oh yeah the yellow flower is a yellow lily with 2 means only, reunion or friendship, Square Enix tweeted a happy friendship day of Cloud giving Tifa the flower, Yellow flower means Reunion and Friendship not love Aerith lied about the part, connect the dots. Loved SE happy friendship day tweet 😊
Crush direction: Cloud => Tifa Aerith => Cloud and people used to say: be with the one who loves you, not the one you love. Hold a minute!!!! Sephiroth => Cloud
I will always ship cloud with Aerith, to me Cloud X tifa is literally like the obvious choice but with Aerith is a ship that not many would think is possible. A sweet girl being with a badass guy? No one would think it would work out.
Hehe, actually it's the other way around. Aerith is sweet & kind but also very sassy whereas Cloud is tough but more reserved than Aerith. They are a perfect match & their chemistry is amazing
I much prefer childhood friend romances myself, so I’m camp CloTi and camp Zerith *forever* (granted, the latter pair met in their late teens). I’d rather see Cloud end up with an OC (and Tifa with Zack, to answer *that* question) than with Aerith. But, to each his/her own.
It's just Square Enix not spoiling there own story to newcomers ^^" And probably also Cloud keeping up with his wrong narrative. In the beginning of the game when Cloud saw Sephiroth for the first time, there is a flashback of the Nibelheim incident where Cloud also wear the SOLDIER uniform (we only see his hands). The memory is most likely very real. It was already there in the Original and was never denied since. If they used the grunt uniform instead of the SOLDIER one in this cutscene it would just be a big spoiler. And even storywise, for Cloud, if he remembered himself dressed as a grunt it would have been weird. But you are right he should be wearing the Shinra grunt outfit here.
(@comment reader) People this scene Check out the PSX version of it to see the difference. Not showing Cloud is a BOY talking to his mom in this Flash Back memory event. Not a Grown Man...
I'm reading some of these comments and I just have to tell you this is really weak evidence for Clerith. First of all, a literal interpretation of "older" woman is not enough to sail your ship on. This entire chapter demonstrates that Aerith is actually the least mature character in the game, she acts like a child the entire time, in fact Elmyra even comments on this to Cloud, saying "She's a handful isn't she" like you would say about a 5 year old. Aerith actually doesn't start to act her age until she spends some time around Tifa, who is the most emotionally mature person in the game thus far. Tifa actually demonstrates all of the qualities that Claudia is describing - she literally makes sure that Cloud has a roof over his head, gets work, and builds his reputation. She looks out for him knowing that he is not well, and she tries to respect his space. Now the nail in the coffin is Cloud's eye at the end of this scene, it's full of the starry night sky and the music playing is the same music that plays when he remembers the promise. Claudia may have ideas of who should be taking care of Cloud, and the implications are that she wants a girl for him that demonstrates the qualities that Tifa actually has. But in Cloud's mind, there's only one girl that he wants to take care of, she's the reason he left for SOLDIER. At this stage in the game Cloud is just barely starting to remember all of this, but right at this moment he wants to get back to Sector 7 and Tifa anyway. SE is gaslighting some of yall with this stuff and Aerith even tells yall it ain't real lmao. That whole resolution was actually for the player not even for Cloud. Cloti is canon
The way I always looked at it was arieth was probably attracted to cloud because of the Zach thing but quickly realized cloud was different and loved him for that (as seen in text in the original ) while tifa loves cloud because of who he was in their childhood . So basically I think cloud loved both of them but tifa is the one that was there for him when he needed to figure out who he was and while it is totally up to player choices I think that shows in advant children (cannon or not) that even if not romantic tifa and cloud trust each other to be parental figures to the kids in sector 7
Why the divide? They both clearly are romantic and very important to cloud, but quite honestly, there's many moments it's pretty obvious cloud has strong feeling for Aerith. That doesn't take his relationship with Tifa away, it's just clear he becomes in love with Aerith. Aerith's care free attitude doesn't take away from her wisdom. She's an ancient remember. She's on a different level. Which line's up with what clouds mother says. Does that mean he automatically loves her because his mom thinks he should settle down with that kind of girl? No, but it affects him clearly. Mom's know their sons, and sons who are even a little conscious know this as well. I honestly think Aerith's image is what pushes people to try to fit Tifa so much as the "one". The pure, wholesome, playful image of Aerith isn't everyone's prototypical love image, which I think Tifa fits better for some. Regardless. They both mean a lot to Cloud, but I'd say the period Cloud and Aerith are together, that they are the exclusive couple . I can make a list of a dozen small details that prove this, but I just don't have the time to explain for some body who doesn't want to see it.
I've got some mixed feeling about Cloud's mom. She seems to be a cool and nice lady but her appearance and even the name (Cloud-ia) makes her a bit of a parody or meme. In the way someone was tasked to design how a mother of Cloud should look like and the best idea was copy and paste, make some female adjustment and boom.... Cloud's mom Claudia.
sealed i wouldn’t call it a meme when it can be true that some people look exactly like their parents and share similar sounding names. My mom and her sisters all have names starting with the same sound 🤷🏽♀️ their parents must’ve liked it. So cloud’s mom seems more like a homely strategy, to emphasize that a guy like this comes from an average family.
Which gives away that subconsciously he feels a need for a wiser woman to take him in and stop him for acting like a jackass. He's self aware despite how deluded he is.
Almost Cloud's memories are real, the only thing he did (due to the mako poisoning) was put himself in Zack's place, nothing like Zack "imprinted his memories on Cloud", what is that? Brain tranfer? Telekinesis memories? Spiritual possession of Zack who talks through Cloud? Another perspective of the events, if we can call it that.
@@lakitu21 I knew that. I'm just answering your initial question. Its a dream. The nibelhiem is already gone when Cloud don the 1st/2nd class Soldier Uniform and Cloud was comatose, not able to hold any decent conversation with anyone during that period. So, this is still a dream.
Without making too many spoilers, I hope, by being a soldier you need to be exposed and injected with special cella, jenova cells, they give you power if you succed, good job but they also cause an accelerated cells degradation. Also you become something more than human. If the exposure to that cells and energy is too much then you become a monster,literaly
@@_P161 So Cloud gonna have a short life or something? Judging by how healthy he looking i guess he doesn't have any problem with his health. Probably because of fears the mother of Aerith forbid any relationship between Cloud and her. How much time passed since Cloud became a soldier? Is Cloud going to become a monster after years? Btw i have many questions about FF7. Who is Sephiroth? Why he is the bad guy? In the remake Cloud said he killed him with his own hands but when, how and why? In Advent Children Sephiroth rise again. How? Is the remake following the original story?
@@trinitikorneli2750 did you guys have ever play the original game? I'm reading people comments who played only crisis core. That game really ruined this saga.
@@giangiannigiannini4836 A lot of people for some stupid reason tell others to play Crisis Core after this. That game kills the Cloud's big first reveal later. Glad I played the original first back at 1997.
@anujasawant1056 She did. _"More mature girl that could keep you on the straight and narrow--and tell you when you're being a silly goose."_ is LITERALLY Tifa. She saves his life multiple times and eventually manages to crack the shell and bring the real Cloud back.
@@dinorex3464 aerith literally saved world in og timeline. In remake she is rival of sepiroth. Even sephiroth said he underestimated aerith. Second thing cloud got this vision in aerith home
@@dinorex3464 tifa didn't saved cloud in lifestream . Her memory us corrupted. She and cloud are not close in childhood. She just triggered his memory.
Look at his eyes, you see the blue stars in Nibelheim. Similar to his flashback with young Tifa. So he's thinking about both girls, or maybe he's thinking about Tifa while his mom thinks he should be with Aerith?
In japanese she never says older of age, but mentality. I don't know why in eng, french and german, is translated like that. She's talking about Tifa because (exactly what Nojima wrote about Tifa, in Trace of two pasts), she used to cook and talk about Cloud with his mother. Claudia was trying to fish him out here and he was visibly flustered. She possibly couldn't talk about Aerith, since she didn't know her. The thing you noticed about Cloud's eyes, means exactly that. Then she stands up and wants to go back to sector 7. Why would he leave, if not for the thought of Tifa, worrying after she literally saw him falling from a reactor.
@@laurajanco2i Dudes , are you serious ? What if I say that Ultimania omega says that the description of his mom fits Aerith . This is confirmed . Stop misinterpreting the plot, Cloud is not thinking about Tifa at this moment, he is in the Aerith house
@@НикитаСимонян-ж5е Yeah, he's in Aerith's house (but you need the greatest imagination ever to think that that's a reason to think he was dreaming about her, when his mother never even had anything to do with her). He just got scolded from Aerith's mother for being an "ex-SOLDIER" and told him to go away, which recalls a memory of his mother... thinks about his past and his village (coincidence the same place in which Tifa lived), thinks about his mother saying that he should settle down, but stay away from the temptations of the city (Aerith is a city girl, she has always lived in Midgar), that he should have a "more mature" woman (not "oldier", because chotto onee-san doesn't indicate age and it's not Aerith at all because she's childlike) who's gonna take care of him and keep him on the right path (there's no "silly goose" in the Japanese dialogue and the one who keeps him from going insane and is the one who knows, takes care of him, saves him, is Tifa)... also, Claudia knew Tifa and they were close. Then Cloud wakes up with a starry sky in his eyes and the theme "a tower a promise" (that plays when they were on the water tower the night when they made the promise) and then stands up and wants to get the f out of that house to go back to sector 7. He was thinking about Aerith so hard, that the first thing he did after waking up is saying "since I'm not welcome I'd better go"(original source). But yeah, Sabin made the mistranslations on purpose...makes sense because he's a Clerith (I'm glad that I know reasonable Cleriths only) and he's fake like y'all, so I'm not surprised. He basically changed all the game's dialogues to fit his narrative. Lol...If you only knew Japanese, you would be shaking. But if y'all wanna keep stealing and self-inserting where you don't belong, pop off I guess...
@@jadethedarkprincess8415 oof Cloud and Aerith shippers are so not ready for what's gonna happen in Rebirth ahah... someone got hold of leaks from people who already got Rebirth and played it, and cleriths are basically done for😂 ...not gonna say anything tho
It is very annoying when Cloti try to change the FF7 plot for themselves. His mom describes a girl who fits the description of Aerith . This is written in UT Omega. You have been lying constantly for 20 years and some believe in your fairy tales
His mom mentions how there must be a lot of temptations in the big city and how she'd feel better if he had an older woman in his life to take care of him and bring him out of his shell. The weight of the scale tips in Aerith's favor. She does bring out a different side of him. Hidden meanings are plentiful in FF7R. If the music is any indicator though, while laying down, he didn't really want to listen to his mom, and even outright objects to the idea by turning away from her. If only she knew he already had someone in his heart. Upon awakening, it's symbolic to notice the stars within his eyes. The eyes represent the window to a person's soul...the sub-conscious part of him. There we learn the truth hidden within his eyes. His hidden feelings for Tifa. You have to be very conscious to pick up on Cloud's real intimate feelings. In this scene, he thinks that there may be something between Aerith and himself. Remake throws a budding relationship between Cloud and Aerith just like in the OG. It's not a mystery that we know there is something seriously wrong with Cloud in Remake. Aerith already knows this and toward the end, calls him out on it (like she always does). Without getting into her story * cough * (Zack), She's not interested in pursuing a relationship with Cloud.
There are *some* Tifa/Rude fanfics on the Internet - but not many. The two biggest ‘ships’ involving Tifa appear to be CloTi - which is my OTP - and Tifa/Reno. I am fairly certain that Reno is coded gay, but………Quel che sarà sarà.
Yes, Cloud's mother it's a Clerith shipper (and for those angry Tifa x Cloud shippers, sorry, but Aerith and Cloud are a much deeper couple and with more symbolism to the story. EVEN tge Ff7 remake creators ship Clerith, so don't came barking here)
They have it difficult. Cloud's mother is Clerith, Aerith's mother is Zerith hehe. So it should be up to them. Just notice that Aerith run away from home when she learned, that Cloud was sent away.
This scene happens in the Original too. Twice. Once in this right here and later in a Flashback but the flashback isn't exactly what happened because of Cloud's memory. Also the scene in the flashback is optional and you see bits and pieces.
Cloud has a very lovely mother.
Like Midoriya’s mom!
*had
she died before the game started
She just as hot as dress cloud.
I thougt she is alien lmao idk which right
Maybe i have to do some research
FF7 remake producers: "Okay, so we have outstanding, creative dialogue, an enhanced version of an already deep story and a solid range of characters. What's left?"
"What should we name Cloud's mom?"
"Errr....Cloudddd......ia?"
Sorry, but I have to nerd out here lol. I believe Cloud's mom had no name in the original FFVII and then in the FFVII ultimania she was named Claudia. The remake producers just kept it in.
@@Moppie38 well she always had a name it was just cut for time
Wonder what dads name is? Cloudad?
@Аякс Нгуен Ян haha!
@@craig291086
John. And, also, Cloud has a younger sister named Joanna. #headcanon
I love how they kept the original dialog. This scene was so wholesome.
Cloud's mother = Claudia
Tifa's mother = Thea
Creativity 11/10
Cloud's father = Probably Claudio
@@ridermanyt8029 🤣🤣
We probably know who Theo is.
Zack's Father: Zero.
*Oh shit*
Claudia is a very common name
Woman: must be hounding you day and night
Cloud: not really
Me:that's a lie
Don't be modest, Cloud XD
Aerith, Tifa, Jessie and Yuffie (soon)😂
@@HelloCloudd_ jessie dead tho😭
@@HelloCloudd_ Don't forget the Honey Bee Inn girls, seriously was Cloud lying about being attractive to women or is it because he is shy to admit it.
Actually, he was still an infantry man back then
The close up of cloud when he wakes is one of the most artistic scenes I've seen in any medium. It says so much in a split second.
Everytime I see Cloud's mom, I can't help but think about how much alike they look, and it makes me wanna cry.
I was wondering how old was she, at that time. She seems young.
@@SixDovahkiin33 years old. When she died
@@jkranitesso she had cloud when she was 12? Are you mental? 😂
Do the math
@@jkranitesno sephiroth was 33 when he went into the lifestream when cloud countered him at nibelheim
Friendly reminder/spoiler that Cloud lost five years of his life so this guy is pretty much a 16 year old stuck in a 21 yo's body. What he needs is a babysitter and a psychologist
I dont think thats how it works
Elmyra’s statement about the trade-off of a normal life for power is very poignant. She knew Aerith had probably been hurt deeply by Zack’s absence, and she didn’t want to see it happen again.
What do you mean
@@ErenDenizMert I don’t want to go into spoilers if you haven’t played the original game yet.
@@mraaronhd i did
Claudia: "an older, more mature girl that could keep you on the straight and narrow -- and tell you when you're being a silly goose."
Characters age in FF7
Tifa: 20
Cloud: 21
Aerith: 22
MADAM M: 30's
@@zefred999 she may actually be the right one for him lol
But Aerith act like a 6 year old.
@@trinitikorneli2750 what are you talkin about? It's the best character in the remake
Marle: 97
Mrs. Strife: WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET A REAL JOB!?!
Cloud: I WILL HAVE A REAL JOB, MOOOM, I'M JOINING SOLDIER!!!
Mrs. Strife: I MEAN A REAL JOB WITH BENEFITS!!!
Cloud: THEY DO HAVE BENEFITS, MOM!!!
Mrs. Strife: A GIANT HUNK OF METAL ON A STICK IS COMPENSATION, NOT A BENEFIT, CLOUD!!!
Cloud: IT'S CALLED A "BUSTER SWORD", MOM!!!
Mrs. Strife: I DON'T CARE WHAT IT'S CALLED. I'M JUST SAYING THIS BECAUSE I LOVE YOU!!!
Cloud: I LOVE YOU TOO, MOM. I COULDN'T IMAGINE LIFE WITHOUT YOU!!!
lol
* Red XIII interjects*
Red: I can taste the Cosmos
I can practically hear this, don't deny you can, too.
Cloud's mom is wayy better than Ms. Aerith's fake mom
@Jennifer56 Yes
His mom looks like my elementary teacher. I'm not kidding
*He* looks like a younger version of my dad! What a small world. 😂
@@kaliefaul1905 then you had one cool looking dad
@@RielXeno
I know, right? Icing on the cake is, my dad’s an Army veteran. Served during Operation Desert Shield/Storm.
@@kaliefaul1905 so ur dad is cloud
@@gabrielfung77
Ehrm……yeah, in a way. 😂
Lol, I was about to say “This is Aeris’ mom, not Cloud’s” and then the flashback kicked in. Good stuff!
She was a sweetheart :'''(
Her voice is so soothing
A mom's voice should be soothing
@@dartmada9733 You are not wrong there
1:15 a very subtle detail of how Cloud’s memories are clouded with Zack’s: Cloud is shown wearing Zack’s shoulder armor!
Cloud is never shown in a SOLDIER uniform with that style of shoulder pads. Those are worn by 1st Class members such as Zack/Angeal. Crazy detail 🤯
Except he is, Zack got him a full 1st class uniform when they escaped the Shinra mansion to get rid of his mako soaked clothes. Crisis core has Cloud in full armor, still it's a nice nod as Cloud didn't get it while Claudia was still alive.
"Cloud's memories are *clouded* with Zack's"
💀
I just realized in 1:15 cloud actually laying down with Zack pose. There's a scene in crisis core when Zack and cloud talks in bedroom about how he wish he were a Soldier. This dream scene shows how he were influenced alot by Zack
Anyone else notice that Cloud's eyes in the flashback lacked the mako glow?
Cloud’s mother looks more masculine than cloud himself
Claudia: Woman must be hounding you day and night
Cloud: Not if I dress up like a woman...
Claudia: Oh I have a dress upsta..
Cloud: I will nail it, I know, thank you. Moving on!
1:16 SOLDIER 1st class uniform like Zack's? Cloud's dreams always have something fake in them just like that dream where Aerith says *not real.*
yeah this game is confusing me so much or could it just only be the devs mistake, I'm not sure there's so much symbolism going on that makes your mind go wild LOL
@@Naim-Lest no its intened like that trust me
Not a mistake. In Cloud’s dream, he thinks he’s dreaming back to the time right before Sephiroth killed everyone in his village. You could interpret this as Cloud thinking he was still working for Shinra back then. I say this because it’s probably Cloud doesn’t know when he “quit” being Soldier and became a mercenary and if anyone asks him, he’ll start having a migraine
@@sakonan4883 this makes a lot of sense now, actually, in terms of his whole fake identity. I was confused because in CC, Zack gave him the clothes after they escaped (which would be four years after Nibelheim burned). I was confused so thanks for explaining!
Cloud doesn't have Zack's memories. He merely integrated Zack's Nibleheim role into himself because it fit his SOLDIER persona. In Japanese culture, when rejecting someone's feelings, its considered polite to give them a reason why. Saying "its not real" is an excuse to let him save his pride. She simply has a notion of her fate and is trying to spare him that pain. But its too late. It pains her to say it because she loves him. It pains him to hear it because he loves her. ( just copy :)
Son is laying in bed with his boots on while at home.
Good lord.
The ship comments are making me laugh lol everyone’s so bent over who cloud loves LOL he still trying to take care of himself can the guy do that and be a good person to the girls as well lol
I found it funny too, but the funniest thing is that in the remake, Cloud kissed Tifa, and Aerith they had been waiting for died again, and Zack came back to see Aerith this time.This is obviously going to be a happy ending.
When you don't like your daughter's boyfriend and you forbid him to have any more contact with her, and then your daughter runs away from home and you never see her again.
1:36 were the writers foreshadowing Aerith?
D3ltaFreedom Y E S
It sounds more like Tifa to be honest. Tifa acts very motherly and warm and wants to take care of Cloud.
@@Mateoski97 Aerith is older than Cloud though soooo :v
@@Proserp_gina She's older, but she's more playful and not as mature as Tifa in my opinion.
Both are great girls regardless.
@@Mateoski97 At this point his mom doesn't even know Aerith and she definitely doesn't talk about Tifa specifically because she said 'Older' but we all know the writers meant Aerith because she is older and they were hinting at them. Why else would they put this dream sequence here AFTER he met Aerith? His heart is stolen by her
Sorry mam, all three girls who is into your boy only make sure he gets into trouble
i came back immediately to rewatch this scene after i found out female byleth is the same voice.. all i could hear is byleth i love it
And she's only 33 here, before she died
Just out of curiosity: is this canon or headcanon?
@@kaliefaul1905 Canon
@@jkranites
Oh. *(Checks the game’s Fandom wiki to confirm.)* Oh, yeah, you’re right. It’s in the OG’s notes. #SillyMe 😅
But………wait a hot second. If she was only 33 when she died………and *Cloud* was 16, at that time (also canon - per Crisis Core)………
Then………she would’ve been 17 when he was born. (Or even 16 - depending on when her birthday is.)
Gets me thinking………🤔
@@kaliefaul1905 yep. At one point women had kids at 16 once upon a time, especially out in the country. Makes you wonder though; who is his Dad, and why does he look exactly like his mom haha
@@jkranites
*Plot twist:* his father isn’t really dead. He just left town (perhaps with some other girl?) - abandoning Claudia and Cloud and, thereby, becoming *“dead”* in the “dead-to-me” sense.
Dismiss this if you must, but it would explain MOST of Cloud’s problems in life, even before Crisis Core.
This scene can be interpreted for either girl. Aerith, because Claudia said she wanted an older woman for Cloud. And Tifa, because when cloud woke up, the stars reflected in his eyes from the day he met up with her at the water tower. The theme “a tower, a promise” was playing as well
yeah but can you see cloud's uniform? its different. more like zack's uniform, this game is confusing me, so much symbolism going on.
name Less yes while I believe they will explain that in later games, it might be due to his faulty memories. Since they’re all jumbled up right now
Plus his sentence after he woke up, " I don't wanna overstay my welcome"
Claudia couldn't talk about Tifa, lol. Because she was familiar with her . If she was talking about Tifa , she would have said so , but she 's just saying her opinion . And this is Aerith . In Ultimania omega it is written that his mom's words describe Aerith. So it's confirmed
I like the idea that it’s the players choice and it’s honestly easy for me to chose. I ship him with Tifa 100% but I understand why ppl love Aerith. She’s hilarious, blunt, and wholesome
Reminds me of me whenever I go home to visit my mom. I'm a Soldier so always far away for long periods of time.
My mother is very much the same. Thinks highly of me(too much) and wants me to find a good girl. And I’m basically Cloud, I don’t think girls are that into me(for real, everyone knows girls actually do like Cloud) and I’m determined to take care of myself.
She looks like she could be rufus shinra mum as well, Tbh.
Does anyone know the song that plays during this scene? :{
I want to find this out so much as well!
If it helps, the music during the scene with Cloud's mom is definitely a remake of "Holding my Thoughts in my Heart"... I just don't know what it's called in the remake
Here ua-cam.com/video/QtjZQ5JKvpI/v-deo.html
I feel like Square and the writers are subtly hinting who Cloud has feelings for. If you pick up on all the hints and clues throughout the game, it’s pretty clear who it is. *hint: It’s the girl with the red jacket and pink dress.
Aerith said not to fall for her because Cloud s feelings may not be real. He s unstable right now because of Sephiroth constantly messing himup, and he was experimented on for 5 years. Cloud may act like a teenager falling for older women and clinging unto them for stability . In AC he showed sign of recovery. And at that time he finally understood what Aerith was for him. A caring sister-like.
Ko. Tsuki Ko No Aerith said that because she knows her fate and does not want Cloud to get hurt. Cloud LOVES her and she KNOWS that. This has already been confirmed in the Ultamania. Clouds feelings for Aerith are real and his own. It’s not because of Zack. Stop twisting it into your own fiction. Cloud only takes up the accomplishments of Zack and a few of his mannerisms. Not his personality or his memories or anything else.
What does Cloud say and do when Aerith tells him not to fall in love with her???
He instantly tries to grab her and tells her if has any say in what she said.
@@GOHST13ly They may tell you she loves him, but what kind of love... The one Aerith loves is Zack. Cloud loves her, but soon after he realizes his feelings. The one cloud loves is Tifa. He loves Aerith but his heart always belongs to tifa.
Ko. Tsuki Did you watch Advent Children? The only relationship he and Tifa have is a platonic one. I’m just going off of what I see and read in official games or book. In the games, you have to go out of your way to even give Tifa a chance. There’s more evidence that suggests and implies that Aerith is the woman Cloud loves.
@@GOHST13ly yes I've watched it. he loves Aerith but his Heart belongs to tifa. I understand you don't have patience for two people to grow and get confident on their feelings. It s okay to ship them together but at the end of the day, they were not meant for each other.
Felt sad at that scene
I wish they made Claudia and little Cloud and Tifa have southern accent.
This is a lovely foreshadowing I’d say, when Claudia says that’s the perfect type for you I’d say, and when Cloud opened his eyes in 1:59 his eyes are that of a starry night sky, and who is that girl again? That he made a promise on a starry night sky? His mom might prefer he dates an older girl, but Cloud’s perfect type is literally seen in his eyes when he woke up. 😍❤️🍷 Just Beautiful
It feels like he woke up, remembered his promise to Tifa, then decided to leave in the middle of the night to get back to Sector 7 asap so he could reunite with Tifa and let her know he is safe.
In the shot of Cloud's eyes opening, a few bars of "A tower, a promise" plays. And I think I've seen more than one article describing Tifa as mature. Interesting that...
She says an older girl who calls him silly. That’s literally Aerith 😂
@@aoto8897his mother also says there are many temptations in the city, Aerith’s a city girl. She also does not act mature that’s Tifa.
@@aoto8897 I know right, Aerith is older and she literally called him "silly", aand she's mature she guided Cloud very well every time he had headaches or was mind controlled by Sephiroth. And Aerith knows her fate yet she doesn't run away from it, how is that not mature? Tifa is shy/reserved that doesn't mean mature, she's actually like school girl in some situations.
You can hear, as a soundtrack: 02 Bitter Memory (Extra Disk 2).
1:18 this is "A Tower, A Promise" 🥰
I think i like the old final fantasy7 more because it look so real
His mother's name is Claudia so that means his father's name is Claude.
Calling someone a *silly goose* means you think that they need to stop being nervous or childish and get the job done. -Google
Who told him to quit dilly dallying?
“Dilly-dally, shilly-shally.” 👍🏻😏
Zack.... 😅
@@6Kubik
Actually, it was Tifa. (Well - and also Aerith. But Tifa said it first.)
Per Advent Children. 😉👍🏻
If I'm correct:
Clouds dream is if cloud home was never burnt down and he made it to soldier first class he visits his mother to tell her the news and proven by the buster sword zack either died or has passed it onto cloud and decided to quit soldier or probably this can ve what happened after crisis core where cloud pays his home one last time before he starts his journey as a merc
It's very difficult to figure out because Crisis core has a crappy plot that contradicts the original in a bunch of moments. A terrible prequel, a terrible story, a terrible Aerith in Crisis core, only Zack is interesting to watch
I believe what truly happens is Zack is Cloud in these scenes except for coming home and does the same shit
I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS SCENE HUH
Claudia comments point to Aerith being the older girl and calling cloud silly in Aeriths resolution scene and the OG. However, the music playing through this scene "a tower, a promise" is very much Tifa. Then Cloud waking up with starry eyes, his thoughts are Tifa.
Despite that theme, I think its still all about Aerith. They just played that to give an ambiance to Cloud's hometown.
@@ian9859 I highly disagree that scene is all aerith lol
@@hawk1513 I think he remembered that because he thought he found someone that fits that description. But was suddenly asked to leave her without a word. Because hes not good for her according to the mom.
@Ian yeah your right that scene does meet the description of Aerith and he isn't welcome so he leaves. square does things intentionally the starry eyes and the song playing is very much the promise. songs in ff7 are used with a message and song titles have a big clue to what is happening or inner thoughts/feelings. so the fact that the way cloud wakes up really shows what square is hinting here.
@@hawk1513 Yes but in my opinion, it was played that time because cloud is reminiscing a scene from nibelheim. And that tower promise suits the place regardless of tifa. I mean they could just use the nibelheim theme but its kinda gloomy and sad so it wont fit here. Just make take.
Claudia mom described Aerith as the girl he should marry.
Well,english translation is biased. She didn't say that originally. She only said mature. But ofc for the western audience, they try to keep the LTD alive.
Plus, Claudia KNEW who Cloud held in his heart (Tifa). She was only teasing and FISHING about his lovelife since he temps to keep everything inside.
And this comes from the latest Official Ultimania.
@@kaage8780 interestingly she said to avoid city girls.
When I met Tifa's Dad in the Original and he said "stay away from her" I just said "fuck you" but I can't say the same for Aerith's mom. Well. "Mom"
@@holitinne huh? Really?🤔
@@kaage8780please tell me this is true
Cloud dreams of his mom in Aerirths house, his mom knows Tifa she did not say Tifa and where did Cloud grow up and Tifa? Nibelheim, so of course it will be the same theme the theme even plays in Crisis Core when Zack goes to Nibelheim. Cloud mom KNOWS Tifa and she didn't say Tifa and the theme is Nibelheim, it has nothing to do with Tifa. Oh yeah the yellow flower is a yellow lily with 2 means only, reunion or friendship, Square Enix tweeted a happy friendship day of Cloud giving Tifa the flower, Yellow flower means Reunion and Friendship not love Aerith lied about the part, connect the dots. Loved SE happy friendship day tweet 😊
Crush direction:
Cloud => Tifa
Aerith => Cloud
and people used to say: be with the one who loves you, not the one you love.
Hold a minute!!!!
Sephiroth => Cloud
Aerith’s mom acted like zack and cloud were Ed and Al
Now that you say that i can see it now
@@lordcthulhu4303
Pardon my ignorance, but who are Ed and Al?
@@kaliefaul1905 the protagonists of full metal alchemist
@@britishcat1083
Oh.
*Googles Full Metal Alchemist.*
Hmm. Interesting. So………which one’s Zack, and which one’s Cloud? 🤔
@@kaliefaul1905 Edward = Zack
Alphonse = Cloud
I will always ship cloud with Aerith, to me Cloud X tifa is literally like the obvious choice but with Aerith is a ship that not many would think is possible. A sweet girl being with a badass guy? No one would think it would work out.
Hehe, actually it's the other way around. Aerith is sweet & kind but also very sassy whereas Cloud is tough but more reserved than Aerith. They are a perfect match & their chemistry is amazing
@@Firdagniriel that's why I ship Cloud with her.
I ship Cloud with both. But I also ship Zack with Aerith. And also the Bromance between Zack and Cloud too.
I much prefer childhood friend romances myself, so I’m camp CloTi and camp Zerith *forever* (granted, the latter pair met in their late teens). I’d rather see Cloud end up with an OC (and Tifa with Zack, to answer *that* question) than with Aerith.
But, to each his/her own.
@@MariusBoss11458
Agreed on the bromance part, BUT with the addition of Link.
Can’t go wrong with a 3-way.
This has to be a messed up memory right? Cloud didn't get that outfit until Zack rescued him, and by then Nibelheim was already burned down...
It's just Square Enix not spoiling there own story to newcomers ^^"
And probably also Cloud keeping up with his wrong narrative.
In the beginning of the game when Cloud saw Sephiroth for the first time, there is a flashback of the Nibelheim incident where Cloud also wear the SOLDIER uniform (we only see his hands).
The memory is most likely very real. It was already there in the Original and was never denied since.
If they used the grunt uniform instead of the SOLDIER one in this cutscene it would just be a big spoiler. And even storywise, for Cloud, if he remembered himself dressed as a grunt it would have been weird.
But you are right he should be wearing the Shinra grunt outfit here.
Exactyl! And why does he have that Buster Sword already !!
I didn't realize Cloud wore the Soldier Uniform in crisis core in the Flashback..
He didn't, but he believes he did, so in his memories he was wearing it
Cloud
Claudia
I can't believe it took so long for me to get it dgi
His dad name probably
"Claudio"
@@rahulmurali8302 Clay?
@@MariusBoss11458 probably
Claudia!!!! Is this his mom?
Yeah, she is Cloud's mother.
His father's name is Claudio
I think so
(@comment reader) People this scene Check out the PSX version of it to see the difference. Not showing Cloud is a BOY talking to his mom in this Flash Back memory event. Not a Grown Man...
We know where 80% of his looks from it damn sure wasn't his dad
well, we know where he gets his looks from..
What’s the name of the song at 1:59?
Besides age, Tifa matches the most with the description.
Wonder what his dad was like?
I think he never met him
According to the Final Fantasy wiki, Cloud's father died way before the events of Crisis Core, so Cloud's mother raised him as a single parent.
For what it’s worth, I headcanon that Cloud’s father’s name was John.
Plot twist that’s actually his dad
Hmmm
I'm reading some of these comments and I just have to tell you this is really weak evidence for Clerith. First of all, a literal interpretation of "older" woman is not enough to sail your ship on. This entire chapter demonstrates that Aerith is actually the least mature character in the game, she acts like a child the entire time, in fact Elmyra even comments on this to Cloud, saying "She's a handful isn't she" like you would say about a 5 year old. Aerith actually doesn't start to act her age until she spends some time around Tifa, who is the most emotionally mature person in the game thus far. Tifa actually demonstrates all of the qualities that Claudia is describing - she literally makes sure that Cloud has a roof over his head, gets work, and builds his reputation. She looks out for him knowing that he is not well, and she tries to respect his space. Now the nail in the coffin is Cloud's eye at the end of this scene, it's full of the starry night sky and the music playing is the same music that plays when he remembers the promise. Claudia may have ideas of who should be taking care of Cloud, and the implications are that she wants a girl for him that demonstrates the qualities that Tifa actually has. But in Cloud's mind, there's only one girl that he wants to take care of, she's the reason he left for SOLDIER. At this stage in the game Cloud is just barely starting to remember all of this, but right at this moment he wants to get back to Sector 7 and Tifa anyway. SE is gaslighting some of yall with this stuff and Aerith even tells yall it ain't real lmao. That whole resolution was actually for the player not even for Cloud. Cloti is canon
The way I always looked at it was arieth was probably attracted to cloud because of the Zach thing but quickly realized cloud was different and loved him for that (as seen in text in the original ) while tifa loves cloud because of who he was in their childhood . So basically I think cloud loved both of them but tifa is the one that was there for him when he needed to figure out who he was and while it is totally up to player choices I think that shows in advant children (cannon or not) that even if not romantic tifa and cloud trust each other to be parental figures to the kids in sector 7
Why the divide? They both clearly are romantic and very important to cloud, but quite honestly, there's many moments it's pretty obvious cloud has strong feeling for Aerith. That doesn't take his relationship with Tifa away, it's just clear he becomes in love with Aerith. Aerith's care free attitude doesn't take away from her wisdom. She's an ancient remember. She's on a different level. Which line's up with what clouds mother says. Does that mean he automatically loves her because his mom thinks he should settle down with that kind of girl? No, but it affects him clearly. Mom's know their sons, and sons who are even a little conscious know this as well. I honestly think Aerith's image is what pushes people to try to fit Tifa so much as the "one". The pure, wholesome, playful image of Aerith isn't everyone's prototypical love image, which I think Tifa fits better for some. Regardless. They both mean a lot to Cloud, but I'd say the period Cloud and Aerith are together, that they are the exclusive couple . I can make a list of a dozen small details that prove this, but I just don't have the time to explain for some body who doesn't want to see it.
Cloud's mother knows Tifa if she meant Tifa, she would say Tifa. You don't understand Aerith at all, unfortunately.
you can see cloud's uniform, its different. guess whose uniform is that? maybe I'm just wrong or cloud has two uniforms.
@@Naim-Lest Well his uniform IS Zack's. He was never a first class solider.
I've got some mixed feeling about Cloud's mom. She seems to be a cool and nice lady but her appearance and even the name (Cloud-ia) makes her a bit of a parody or meme.
In the way someone was tasked to design how a mother of Cloud should look like and the best idea was copy and paste, make some female adjustment and boom.... Cloud's mom Claudia.
sealed i wouldn’t call it a meme when it can be true that some people look exactly like their parents and share similar sounding names. My mom and her sisters all have names starting with the same sound 🤷🏽♀️ their parents must’ve liked it. So cloud’s mom seems more like a homely strategy, to emphasize that a guy like this comes from an average family.
Just wait until his dad Claudio gets home
@@sandwichchan5000 Dio? Imposible, yare yare daze
@@sandwichchan5000 XD
A bit nitpicky but, ok.
Why is the Buster Sword there 1:22!? Seems like a plot hole but they kept it in Ever Crisis
Cloud already had Zack memories at this point of the story, so in his mind the Buster Sword was always his.
In what chapter does this happen?
It's near the end of chapter 8 after all the side missions
JELLIS Gamer Oh thanks!
what song plays at 1:59?
Cloud imagining things. He think he was a soldier back then. It is a false memory.
Which gives away that subconsciously he feels a need for a wiser woman to take him in and stop him for acting like a jackass. He's self aware despite how deluded he is.
That memory was real. Maybe that uniform wasn't
@@giangiannigiannini4836 This is what I think. Maybe I didn't express myself clearly.
@@BobExcalibur actually that's still his mother lol she's not
Fake
Almost Cloud's memories are real, the only thing he did (due to the mako poisoning) was put himself in Zack's place, nothing like Zack "imprinted his memories on Cloud", what is that? Brain tranfer? Telekinesis memories? Spiritual possession of Zack who talks through Cloud?
Another perspective of the events, if we can call it that.
Yeah... sure... 1:23
Why is he wearing soldier uniform in the flashback?
its a dream. Then again, he was a SOLDIER last time he went to nibelhiem
@@neardarkroad1347 That's a Soldier 1st class uniform, Zack puts it on Cloud after they scape Hojo's lab
@@lakitu21 I knew that.
I'm just answering your initial question. Its a dream. The nibelhiem is already gone when Cloud don the 1st/2nd class Soldier Uniform and Cloud was comatose, not able to hold any decent conversation with anyone during that period.
So, this is still a dream.
Because in his head he thinks he was a real 1st class so also in his dream..... while in reality he was there but just as a normal common soldier
"You boys made a trade - a normal life for power." Can someone explain to me this? I don't know the story.
Without making too many spoilers, I hope, by being a soldier you need to be exposed and injected with special cella, jenova cells, they give you power if you succed, good job but they also cause an accelerated cells degradation. Also you become something more than human. If the exposure to that cells and energy is too much then you become a monster,literaly
@@_P161
So Cloud gonna have a short life or something? Judging by how healthy he looking i guess he doesn't have any problem with his health. Probably because of fears the mother of Aerith forbid any relationship between Cloud and her. How much time passed since Cloud became a soldier? Is Cloud going to become a monster after years?
Btw i have many questions about FF7. Who is Sephiroth? Why he is the bad guy? In the remake Cloud said he killed him with his own hands but when, how and why? In Advent Children Sephiroth rise again. How? Is the remake following the original story?
@@trinitikorneli2750 did you guys have ever play the original game? I'm reading people comments who played only crisis core. That game really ruined this saga.
@@giangiannigiannini4836 A lot of people for some stupid reason tell others to play Crisis Core after this. That game kills the Cloud's big first reveal later. Glad I played the original first back at 1997.
@@CrimRui i hope nomura won't ruin this remake for crisis core's fanboys
Y ahora estoy fue lo que pasó rebirth remake parte 2
Nao me recordo de falarem no jogo quem foi o pai do cloud. Espero que abordem isso na terceira parte.
what is the song that plays in this part
She looks more like his sister, not mother.
Maybe he *has* a sister that we don’t know about yet?
@@kaliefaul1905 yeah there is lot of things about cloud that was not shown
Aside from the older part, she literally describes tifa
She didn't
@anujasawant1056 She did.
_"More mature girl that could keep you on the straight and narrow--and tell you when you're being a silly goose."_ is LITERALLY Tifa.
She saves his life multiple times and eventually manages to crack the shell and bring the real Cloud back.
@@dinorex3464 aerith is more mature. She didn't shows her side.
@@dinorex3464 aerith literally saved world in og timeline. In remake she is rival of sepiroth. Even sephiroth said he underestimated aerith. Second thing cloud got this vision in aerith home
@@dinorex3464 tifa didn't saved cloud in lifestream . Her memory us corrupted. She and cloud are not close in childhood. She just triggered his memory.
I'm sorry, what does solter mean?
Look at his eyes, you see the blue stars in Nibelheim. Similar to his flashback with young Tifa. So he's thinking about both girls, or maybe he's thinking about Tifa while his mom thinks he should be with Aerith?
In japanese she never says older of age, but mentality. I don't know why in eng, french and german, is translated like that.
She's talking about Tifa because (exactly what Nojima wrote about Tifa, in Trace of two pasts), she used to cook and talk about Cloud with his mother. Claudia was trying to fish him out here and he was visibly flustered. She possibly couldn't talk about Aerith, since she didn't know her.
The thing you noticed about Cloud's eyes, means exactly that. Then she stands up and wants to go back to sector 7. Why would he leave, if not for the thought of Tifa, worrying after she literally saw him falling from a reactor.
@@laurajanco2i Dudes , are you serious ? What if I say that Ultimania omega says that the description of his mom fits Aerith . This is confirmed . Stop misinterpreting the plot, Cloud is not thinking about Tifa at this moment, he is in the Aerith house
@@НикитаСимонян-ж5е Yeah, he's in Aerith's house (but you need the greatest imagination ever to think that that's a reason to think he was dreaming about her, when his mother never even had anything to do with her).
He just got scolded from Aerith's mother for being an "ex-SOLDIER" and told him to go away, which recalls a memory of his mother... thinks about his past and his village (coincidence the same place in which Tifa lived), thinks about his mother saying that he should settle down, but stay away from the temptations of the city (Aerith is a city girl, she has always lived in Midgar), that he should have a "more mature" woman (not "oldier", because chotto onee-san doesn't indicate age and it's not Aerith at all because she's childlike) who's gonna take care of him and keep him on the right path (there's no "silly goose" in the Japanese dialogue and the one who keeps him from going insane and is the one who knows, takes care of him, saves him, is Tifa)... also, Claudia knew Tifa and they were close.
Then Cloud wakes up with a starry sky in his eyes and the theme "a tower a promise" (that plays when they were on the water tower the night when they made the promise) and then stands up and wants to get the f out of that house to go back to sector 7.
He was thinking about Aerith so hard, that the first thing he did after waking up is saying "since I'm not welcome I'd better go"(original source).
But yeah, Sabin made the mistranslations on purpose...makes sense because he's a Clerith (I'm glad that I know reasonable Cleriths only) and he's fake like y'all, so I'm not surprised.
He basically changed all the game's dialogues to fit his narrative.
Lol...If you only knew Japanese, you would be shaking.
But if y'all wanna keep stealing and self-inserting where you don't belong, pop off I guess...
@@laurajanco2i THANK YOU !!! finally someone who understand the plot
@@jadethedarkprincess8415 oof Cloud and Aerith shippers are so not ready for what's gonna happen in Rebirth ahah... someone got hold of leaks from people who already got Rebirth and played it, and cleriths are basically done for😂
...not gonna say anything tho
cloud’s mom looks like my mom 😔
Cloud s mom soundlike female byleth
That's because that is Jeanine Tirado voicing her. Really has a beautiful range of her voice.
It is very annoying when Cloti try to change the FF7 plot for themselves. His mom describes a girl who fits the description of Aerith . This is written in UT Omega. You have been lying constantly for 20 years and some believe in your fairy tales
Is clouds mother VA female byleth
Tifa of course
We need her death and now the there will be changed in remake story cuss fate is broken we can Hopefully now get a Flashback of her death
His mom mentions how there must be a lot of temptations in the big city and how she'd feel better if he had an older woman in his life to take care of him and bring him out of his shell. The weight of the scale tips in Aerith's favor. She does bring out a different side of him. Hidden meanings are plentiful in FF7R. If the music is any indicator though, while laying down, he didn't really want to listen to his mom, and even outright objects to the idea by turning away from her. If only she knew he already had someone in his heart. Upon awakening, it's symbolic to notice the stars within his eyes. The eyes represent the window to a person's soul...the sub-conscious part of him. There we learn the truth hidden within his eyes. His hidden feelings for Tifa. You have to be very conscious to pick up on Cloud's real intimate feelings. In this scene, he thinks that there may be something between Aerith and himself. Remake throws a budding relationship between Cloud and Aerith just like in the OG. It's not a mystery that we know there is something seriously wrong with Cloud in Remake. Aerith already knows this and toward the end, calls him out on it (like she always does). Without getting into her story * cough * (Zack), She's not interested in pursuing a relationship with Cloud.
Am I the only one who ships Tifa and Rude?? I think he would be perfect for her and he's a good guy, despite everything...
There are *some* Tifa/Rude fanfics on the Internet - but not many.
The two biggest ‘ships’ involving Tifa appear to be CloTi - which is my OTP - and Tifa/Reno.
I am fairly certain that Reno is coded gay, but………Quel che sarà sarà.
I believe he missed the missile on purpose so he doesn't hurt her. He had a Crush on her probably based on Appearance. Don't blame 'im
Wait, does she know Tifa? Since they were childhood friends. She should know her or atleast bring her up.
Welp i saw someone say she was just teasing him and she knew he liked tifa and it says in the ff7 ultimania
cloud has no armpit hair though
Yes, Cloud's mother it's a Clerith shipper (and for those angry Tifa x Cloud shippers, sorry, but Aerith and Cloud are a much deeper couple and with more symbolism to the story. EVEN tge Ff7 remake creators ship Clerith, so don't came barking here)
They have it difficult. Cloud's mother is Clerith, Aerith's mother is Zerith hehe. So it should be up to them. Just notice that Aerith run away from home when she learned, that Cloud was sent away.
It's too bad Sephiroth killed her.
His mother has the moves and looks of tifa
is this a dream or flashback? if its a flashback then is it even real? i mean moms dead before the time..
This scene happens in the Original too. Twice. Once in this right here and later in a Flashback but the flashback isn't exactly what happened because of Cloud's memory. Also the scene in the flashback is optional and you see bits and pieces.
ex souljia boy
Claudia was 12 when she had Cloud. Nice.
Actually, she would’ve been 16 or 17. Check the notes for the OG. 😉
Am I the only one who ships cloud with myself or my oc?
Nope. I also have an OC in mind for Cloud - as my OTP2.
CloTi’s my OTP1, though.
That awkward moment when your mom insists you find a girl that's like... your mom... #Strifecest
Insert a Michael scream: No god! Please no! Nooooooo!
Cloud’s mom: *exists*
Rule 34: “Hooo-wheee!”
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Don't you dare. Stick to Aerith, Tifa and Jesse.
@@MariusBoss11458 no leave aerith alone do what you want about Tifa and Jessie but leave aerith alone
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