I rememeber when I was a little kid when my father test drove one. It stalled 3 times. On the third time we were in the lot and couldnt get it started. He passed on it. This was probably a good thing, since it turned out to be dangerous. Then he got a Chevy Vega which wasnt much better.
@@mat2000100 Mat, I don't think anyone wants to do away with a car radio, but I have to agree with Jeff. Let me give you my take. Our 2004 Yukon has knobs and true buttons that are easily located. Our 2010 Yukon had a few more bells and whistles and I found the knobs and buttons had gotten smaller and with somewhat large fingers I would fumble around for them. The misses and I downsized to a Durango R/T, it is fast and well handling and has even more doodads but finding them to a 6o-year-old 6' guy is distracting... Please note I still drive the 2004 Yukon. I did throw a Kenwood with navigation in it...One happy camper! :)
The Fiero connecting rod problem was the first model year only. There have been more engine fires in Ferrari's and Lambo's than Fireo ever had. As far as safety goes, the Fiero's space frame design had a 5-star crash rating.
Plus the first model Fiero had an iron duke engine which was also known to cause problems if I'm not mistaken. Donut Media did an extensive video on that car in Up To Speed should anyone want to check it out, it's funny as hell.
Can’t believe y’all mentioned Fiero’s and DIDNT use that clip from American Dad where Francine’s friend says “I Drive a FIERO?!?” in joy😂😂 woulda fit perfectly
@@martinltpm you're pretty much lucky if you own the V6 Model, any Iron Duke Powered Fieros were basically on their death bed by the time they went off the lot
You have to take the Model T and Isetta in historical context. The national speed limit, once established, was something like 40 or 45 mph during a lot of the Model T's life, and as we all know its initial purpose was to replace the horse. And the Isetta both saved BMW from going under and gave extremely cash-strapped post-war Germans an alternative to walking or a motorcycle.
Unfair to add the Ford Model T. There were no safety standards when it came out, much less safety glass. All cars of that era would be considered death traps using today’s standards.
84 Fiero had the problem. It was fixed in later years. Besides that it was one of the safest on the road in its class. Under the body panels was a roll cage. The car was way ahead of its time.
@@MrPJ16 well when top GM brass only gives you so much money (much less than required) problems are gonna happen. Then let's factor in the idiots that never bothered to check the oil levels let alone whether or not it is leaking whilist revving the piss outta the lil iron duke.
I heard a rumor about how Ford executives knew about the fuel tank issue before the pinto's release but didn't bother to fix it because they figured out that it'd be cheaper to settle lawsuits than to fix and redesign the car
Not anly that but the first Mustangs had the same problem. someone then designed a metal cover for the stang to fix the problem. The Pinto just carried it for both cars.
What rarely gets mentioned, and it gets completely ignored in this video, is; once Pinto's got super-bumpers and moved the gastanks, they didn't have that problem anymore... Other cars that had that problem, were all the GM cars with the gastank tube behind the rear license plate. And the Cadillac Seville with the bustle trunk...
Nope, that's a myth. The Pinto was developed from late '67-'69 and released in September of 1970. Reports of Pintos being consumed by fire after being hit in the rear didn't start appearing until '73. Ford's Environmental and Safety Engineering office put out a memo the same year weighing up the cost-benefit of improving the Pinto's fuel tank safety in a roll-over (this is important) and decided against the changes due to the low probability of these incidents occurring. In 1977 a woman was killed and her 13 year old passenger was seriously injured when the 1972 Pinto she was driving stalled on a freeway and was hit by a Ford Galaxie from the rear at 50mph. The family of the boy sued Ford, and during the trial the 1973 memo was leaked to the press by a writer from Mother Jones, who intentionally misled people into believing Ford designers had known about issues with the Pinto's fuel tank design from the beginning (the memo was about roll-over safety, not rear end collisions). He also overplayed the deaths attributed to the Pinto's design substantially, claiming that somewhere between 500 and 900 people had been killed when in reality it was 3 or 4, and these people had been extremely unlucky (hit directly in the rear by another car at 50+mph while they were stationary). In reality the Pinto was no worse than the Chevy Vega, AMC Gremlin and the Datsun 510, and it was significantly less fireprone than the VW Beetle, Datsun 210 and the Toyota Corolla.
Keep in mind, back then, all cars and manufacturers had the same gas tank design. It wasn’t just Ford. Just like the Chevy pickups, with saddle tanks, would explode on side impacts,while Ford trucks had their tanks inside the frame.
Not rumour, Ford actually did a cost analysis on profit lost from absorbing the cost of including a gas tank shield to prevent bolts on the rear axle perforating it in a rear impact accident vs how many people not including it would be killed x cost of payout, and found allowing a "small" number of buyers to get killed was the more profitable option. This came out during the famous wrongful death lawsuit involving a Pinto. The saddest part is that the fuel tank shield was going to be a mandatory inclusion from the second production year onwards, but Ford execs overruled the engineers to have it not included for one year only. The Pinto was designed to be (relatively) safe, and made unsafe by pure greed.
In defense of the Model T: It was one of the first cars so they may not have really known the right way to construct a car. None of the others on the list have that excuse.
About the Chevy Corvair: Nader was not entirely correct. It was proven in late 2017 by a trained, experienced stunt driver with a video published right here on UA-cam on the Hagerty YT channel a few years ago with NADER'S ACTUAL UNRESTORED AND UNMODIFIED 1962 Chevy Corvair Monza 4-door. A lot of these old contemporary films are of cars that were purposely sabotaged to make them seem unsafe. The Corvair had two generations. The first generation had the same basic rear axle design (NOT the same rear axle) as the venerable first generation Volkswagen Beetle. The second generation Corvair had a redesigned rear axle for the 1965 model year that addressed Nader's concerns, which coincidently was the year that "Unsafe at Any Speed" was published. Nader was admirably helping to change the basic car design to make cleaner and safer cars, but he did so by nefarious means. He essentially used the Corvair as a scape goat to sell books and leverage public opinion. On the subject of gathering research: If anyone wants to ensure that any information is actually correct, get at least three unrelated sources that basically say the same thing. If that cannot be accomplished, take it with a grain of salt. Or in other words (a quote from one of my dad's grandfathers), "Don't believe anything you hear or half of what you see and doubt that other half." Next time, don't just skim over some "facts" and get it correct the first time...
There's a long ugly history of media hitpieces against otherwise perfectly fine cars and trucks. The one that CBS did to the Audi 5000 was particularly vile because they had to intentionally sabotage the car by over pressurizing the transmission with excess fluid and then used an air compressor to forcibly induce "unintended acceleration" by making the already over pressurized transmission go into what amounted to "panic mode" by making it think it was going to blow up if it didn't switch into a high gear immediately. There was also the famous "waiting to explode" hit piece that dateline did against GM pickups in 1992 where they deliberately misrepresented their "tests" by using a 1 ton pickup that was equipped with a dual tank fuel system which was sabotaged and then deliberately overfilled with fuel that was then "sealed" in the takns with fuel filler caps that were too small for one crash and then used a 1/4 ton model that didn't have dual tanks. They also used an incendiary device to get the footage of a "dramatic gas explosion"with the 1 ton truck.
It was proven in 1972 by the NHTSA that the corvair wasn't any less safe than any contemporary car of the time. But Nader did the Corvair a favor. He gave it a few more years of production because of that book.
From '65 the Corvair was a very safe car. The original rear suspension ('60-'64) was poorly designed, giving the car a strong tendency to roll. I've driven the 1965 model, and loved the handling.
My father owned a red corvair and drove to downtown Los Angeles from orange county all week every week. We ate late every night because of that. It never had one problem or broke down and we drove all over besides that. The only issue he had was getting someone to calibrate the carburetors. Never could find a mechanic for that but as hot as the summers were and stop and go driving on the freeways it ran and ran!
I bought one the first Corvair Monzas' when it came out in 1961. Ihad the "big engine" (98HP) with the 3-speed manual (should have waited for the 4-speed). I really liked the car, was quiet and rode smoothly. I had one incident where I entered a curve too and experienced the "oversteer". I was lucky in not going completely over the center line into oncoming traffic. But, I learned to respect the handling quirks of the car. I had only one mechanical issue with the car. One of the lifters was stuck when the car was started on a below zero night in Minnesota, sounded like someone hammering in the engine bay. The issue was resolved under warranty and had no more issues. I did trade the car within 6months, but only because I wanted the new compact Buick Skylark with the 190HP aluminum engine that had just come out. As for the Corvair, I would have bought another one, with the 4-speed!
My mother received a Ford Pinto as a high school graduation gift from my grandmother. One day, my uncle took it without her permission and ended up wrecking it. Thankfully, it didn't explode.
I wouldn’t even buy a Ford pinto for anyone. Especially my kids nor approve that as a car for them because how notoriously dangerous these cars are. I would even be scared to drive behind one.
#8: As I recall, part of the problem with 4-cylinder Fieros was that, in order to get anything resembling ground clearance, the engine was fitted with a very shallow oil pan and as such had very little oil capacity. This made it very easy to run the engine dangerously low on oil.
They used the same oil pan that was on these 4cyl engines in Celebritys and Citations. In other words they didn't need to modify that at all as it's pretty much flush with the subframe. What happened was everyone that bought the '84 and early '85 4 cyl cars revved the piss out of them and never bothered to check the oil level. So either oil would be leaking into the exhaust manifold or it would be low enough to cause the engine to just stop. Also the wire harness was another issue for the 1984 cars. This is mostly a driver error thing.
@@pashakdescilly7517 I wouldn't doubt it. I've always heard about the electronics were crap tho. Idk if the electrical system would have any affect on it.
not mentioned was the brake failure problem on the GT model. I worked at a dealership that received one in a dealer trade. Poor driver had a brake failure at a toll road gate. The thing came in on a flatbed truck, smashed up pretty bad. It was fixed and sold. I don't know if the buyer knew what happened.
The reason the unintended acceleration incidents stopped for the audio 5000 was the addition of an interlock to prevent putting the car in gear if the brake wasn't depressed.
The no infamous 60 minutes hitpiece against the 5000 was later determined to have been faked by the same company that would later be named as a co-defendant when GM sued NBC and Dateline for slander and defamation over their provably false reporting in their 1992 hit piece "waiting to explode" which portrayed 1974/87 chevy/gmc pickups as "rolling bombs that are waiting to kill". They deliberately over pressurized the transmission with excess fluid and used an air compressor to induce "sudden acceleration" that didn't occur naturally.
I done some searching and The DMC-12 is actually still being made. The factory is in Humble, Texas and supplies NOS and OEM parts for DMC owners and restorers. The company also sells full-spec cars. There’s dealerships in Florida and California
In 1972, when I was 17, I had an eye doctor appointment in Mitchell, Indiana. After the appointment, I had to get to Salem, about 20 miles away, where my high school was having an SAT test. I was running late. I had my 1963 Chevy Corvair up to 100 mph on the straightaways on Indiana State Road 60 (between Mitchell and Salem). I made it, no problems.
Im happy you mentioned the Yugo, my Mom used to own one and my three uncles would prank her because just 2 of them could pick it up, they would move it into the garage and turn it sideways for her in the morning when she would go to work
1:45 can confirm that weather intolerance is still a problem with hyundai. i had a 2008 santa fe and had to get the underbody coating redone bc the original coating apparently wasn’t working like it should (it was a recall). there was also significant paint delamination on the hood and roof but the car was out of warranty by the time i got the vehicle
My cousin was having problems with her car (engine seals were shot) and thought about buying a Santa Fe, my dad and I came along to check it out because we’re the car guys in the family… I sat in it, and flat out told her to just fix her car and save the difference between the repair cost and the Santa Fe… so cheap feeling inside it was a red flag to me. Her car lasted another 10 years before she had kids and got a Sienna (it’s better than a Pacifica or an Odyssey)… I couldn’t say the Santa Fe would have.
My dad actually owns a Ford Pinto before we changed to a bigger car with the arrival of my younger sister. I would definitely wanna get a DMC-12 when I can.
Surprised you didn't put the old Jeep CJ on the list. The pre 1980 models were very narrow, and extremely dangerous on the highway. The Institute for Highway Safety called it "the most dangerous thing on four wheels. It is probably more dangerous than anything on two wheels as well,"
You guys really need to do your homework. There were a total of less than 125 documented fires on the Fiero and they were all '84s. They were all caused by a mismarked dipstick that showed there was enough oil when there wasn't. Not a bad record for over 350,000 Fieros sold over 5 model years. If I've done my math correctly, that's less than 0.0005%. Yes, they were underpowered but even the base models handled like they were on rails. How do I know all this. Well, I've owned 6 of them and I belong to the largest Fiero forum in the world. Again, do your homework, guys.
I remember the joke about the Yugo. It was so cheap because everything was optional. The seats, the engine, the wheels, etc. My first two cars were the Pinto and the Bobcat, which was Mercury’s version. I learned to drive with both feet in the Pinto because if you took you foot off the gas for the first couple of miles it would stall.
Despite them being potential death traps, the Fiero was one of the most awesome cars you could own at the time. Everyone wanted one, and those that had them were suddenly the most popular people within the solar system. Owning that car made you more or less a rock star. I knew about their reputation so I never bought one. But now I have my dream car anyway, which incidentally is not a Fiero, so it's pretty much a moot point. They were pretty slick, I have to give them that though.
The fiero was a great car, I bought the second model year. It oil issue was caused by the car being fitted with too small of an oil filter. I sold mine with 250.000 miles on the original engine.. it was great.
My dad got rear ended in a Pinto ('74) by a girl driving a Beetle. Her front bumper went under his rear bumper and it crushed her trunk lid in pretty bad. There was no visible damage to the Pinto at all and it did not blow up (obviously). Not sure if the recall "fix" had been done at this point or not. Just glad no one got hurt. Actually, I took my driving test in that Pinto in '79. In '80 I was screwing around in it on a dirt road and broke both motor mounts.
I had a Fiero in high school and it was a shell when I bought it when I was 15 and I swapped it with an LS1 and a 6 speed manual transmission and reinforced the frame and put huge brakes on it and track focused suspension set up.
When I was a kid one of my neighbors built a pretty sweet track car out of a salvage '89 Fiero GT. He put a twin turbo 350 V8 in it along with a full racing rollcage and suspension, that thing could run a 1/4 mile in 7.75 seconds.
#7: Unsafe At Any Speed focused primarily on the first-generation Corvair, which had a swing-axle rear suspension. While it was unsafe in the hands of a driver who wasn't used to it, this was not unique to the Corvair, as this type of rear suspension was used on several other cars such as the Volkswagen Beetle, Porsche 356, and Triumph Spitfire. The second-generation Corvair had a proper independent rear suspension with double-jointed halfshafts four years before VW equipped the Beetle with such a suspension. In the case of the first-gen Corvair, however, GM did itself no favors by recommending ridiculously low tire pressures.
I am not sure why, but it ended up as a sacrificial car for the likes of Nadar for safety features,. It could have maybe been that thye realized that the car had a potential to outshine the 'Vette/ This Company will never let that happen. And yes, it could have been this Countries Porsche.
You may have to review this article. Only half way through and the main problem is the driver, not the car. Maybe retitle"Cars That Bad Drivers Should Avoid".
The Delorean was designed without researching US Highway rules… so they had to jack it up by almost 2 inches to meet the bumper height requirements, which ruined the handling, and the engine was designed for European emissions standards, so slapping the required catalytic converter on the exhaust choked out the engine power in the American version. Although you can lower the suspension with aftermarket parts, the engine really can’t be helped… until you learn that for Back to the Future II after how poorly the car did with the added weight of the props, they put in an Porsche Boxer engine… because it’s a perfect fit in the engine bay.
I would consider my Geo Metro more dangerous than most of the cars you listed. If I had less than a half tank of gas and it was raining, that car would hydroplane at any speed over 30mph.
I knew that the pinto is on this list due to the location of the fuel tank and thus the car would blow up when rear ended. I wouldn’t even feel safe in a for pinto. But no mention of the reliant Robin, one of the TVRs and the first Koninsegg. These are also more dangerous to be in.
You guys REALLY need to do some basic research before making any video about cars. You can't even differentiate between generations of the same car, and then you just repeat the claptrap that was disproven years ago. Waste of time, energy, and money.
Sounds like you're referring to the 930 (911 Turbo). It had all the usual handling quirks of a 911 thanks to having the engine hanging behind the rear axle, coupled with sluggish off-boost throttle response and the sudden onset of power once the turbo spooled up. That said, even a normally-aspirated 911 is more than happy to kill any driver who doesn't give it proper respect.
They solved the problem with unpredictable handling in the 911 Turbo by adding a giant "whale tale" spoiler on the back to provide downforce on the rerar axle. The "big wing" was an essential design element too the 930 until computerized traction and stability control systems got advanced enough to eliminate the need for the wing in its entirety in the mid 2010's.
@@Hammerhead547 The trouble is, even big wings don't make much downforce at low speeds. And 911's haven't gotten rid of rear wings or spoilers entirely; some of them have a spoiler that pops up after you exceed a certain speed, and GT2 and GT3 models have a fixed rear wing mounted on the rear deck. And as I mentioned, the unpredictable handling of the 930 wasn't all due to a lack of downforce or extreme rear weight bias. When you're dealing with 1970's engine management and a 6.5:1 compression ratio, you've got pretty sluggish response... until the turbo spools up, and suddenly you're going into the ditch ass-first.
@@DinsdalePiranha67 The 911 GT2/3 are meant to be track cars that porsche recommends not be driven on the streets but that doesn't stop some owners from driving them on the street.
The minute I saw the title, I immediately thought "Ford Pinto". Also, Isn't it kinda unfair to put the Model T on here? I mean, the automobile was pretty much still a brand new concept in 1908. They were all dangerous lol
The most dangerous car is the one being driven dangerously. It matters not what kind of car it may be. It's the driver, not the car. That said, yes, some incompetently designed and built cars are dangerously prone to harm people. The Corvair was a cute little, inexpensive car, but it could have been all of that and still have been well- conceived.
I see you didn't mention the Toyota MR2.... But I'm glad you didn't include the Suzuki samurai, we know that Consumer Reports faked the rollover data. And that it didn't rollover any easier than any other vehicle. And the cobalts problem was the ignition would shut off if you accidentally pulled on the keys...thus you have zero power steering. The fuel line heat shield causing it to rust is a problem that happens after like 100,000 miles.
Almost bought a Yugo for myself instead I got myself a Kawasaki 250 ( figured I be safer on a motorcycle). But my late grandparents bought a 197? Pinto. That lasted after my grandparents died and my uncle drove it into the late 80’s with no problems whatsoever.
A 1975 Ford Pinto was the first and worst car that I owned. Bought it for $2K in '76 with 12,000 miles on it, and during the four years I owned the pony I spent more money keeping it on the road than I did buying it. I finally got rid of the Pinto with 45,000 hard earned miles on the odometer. Other than the brakes, transmission, engine, suspension and steering it was a great little car...
I knew the Ford Pinto would be number 1 on this list and here in Australia they were never even released! It's a bit of a shame....I think aesthetically the pinto looks kinda cool...
I personally think that Ralph Nader’s mouth is unsafe at any range, because there are safe drivers that can drive some cars that are considered to be unsafe at any speed.
I've driven a DeLorean before... the shifter fell off and the clutch was unbelievably heavy, but it was an awesome experience for a fan like myself. Now, I'm about to see the same car again.
@@mattalan6618 They're bad. They're really really really bad. But the first time I saw one, as the big BTTF fan I am... I couldn't hold back my tears for 20 minutes. XD
When the Yugo came out, I remember Consumer Reports remarking, "The Yugo GV is basically an old Fiat design, and Fiats weren't known for reliability. A poor buy when new, and a risky buy when used."
Henry Ford III was an idiot, he also shitcaanned the design team that was working on a new project that would've seen ford build the first real minivan in the industry (it was slated to enter production in 1982) but because he was so attached to the giant station wagons which were the industry standard at the time he fired the entire team that was working on it and let them take all their work with them across town to lee iacocca and chrysler. The rest as they say is history in that chrysler introduced the Dodge Caravan in 1984 and built a nameplate dynasty that lasted for almost 40 years while ford was left playing catch up and never quite got it right with the aerostar and windstar before abandoning the market in the late 00's.
I remember seeing something about 70s and 80 GM truck being fire hazards due to the "side saddle" fuel tanks. Get T-boned and instant fuel leak. Though, trucks before that had fuel tanks behind the bench seat.
GM had saddle tanks mounted outside the frame,and very , while Ford had the tanks inside the frame. The extra tanks were added so Chevy could brag their trucks could go farther on a tank(s) of gas, than a standard Ford truck.
Regarding the Chinese and safety.....Chairman Mao: Don't worry...if we lose a couple hundred thousand people in car accidents...our people are like the American "Dorito".....we'll make more.... Wonder what Leno would say about that?
In my parents wedding album were the only pictures of the cars they had owned back then. My dad had an orange GTO with a 400 cubic inch engine. And my mother had a powder blue Pinto. In my later years when I found out the flaws of the pinto, I would from time to time make fun of it. And every time my mother would reply "I loved my pinto." Then proceed to stick her tongue out at me.
The red Corvair shown in the Jay Leno footage was a post facelift Monza - built well after the chassis problems were sorted out. Late Corvairs - especially the coupés and convertibles - are collectible now and no less safe than other cars of that period (admittedly a low hurdle to clear...) I remember the discussion about "uncontrolled acceleration" in Audis in the very early 80s. This appeared to be a US only matter - it basically didn't happen in Europe so many Germans thought it was all down to US drivers. Was it?
@@pashakdescilly7517 I prefer to be cautious. By today's standards, even a 1965 sportscar is not really safe. I'd drive one of those late Corvairs in fine weather and for leisure, but I wouldn't want to rack up miles in everyday traffic with it.
@@notroll1279 Agreed - my point was that by the standard of the day, the '65-on Corvairs had good handling and steering. I made no comment about other aspects of its design and safety... Some do say that the rear engine allowed the designers to create a large front crumple zone in the event of a head-on smash. You should look at a video on YT channel 'Harry's Garage', on his Lotus Elan Series 4. The Elan came out in '63, and set standards for handling, steering and ride that compare with the best modern cars. It was the inspiration for the Mazda MX5, and can lap a race circuit even faster. But passive safety? As Harry said, think of the bodywork as like the fairing on a motorcycle - it keeps the weather off, but does not protect you if you crash
I remember driving a Hyundai Sonata, we hit a bump and a vent fell out of the dash, the sales rep said "Even Hondas had troubles in the early years", I told him "When Hyundai gets to Honda's quality I'll come back"
I owned a Pony and I liked it. I could get my Pony started in -40 C winter due to the manual choke before others could get their Domestic cars started. Yes it was a simple car and the locks were near useless, but it did for years what I asked of it!
That problem with the Fiero was only in the first generation. By the second generation they had everything fixed and they ran really well actually. But word of mouth had already made it around and sales flopped
You really can blame incompetent owners who treated their fireo's abusively for the problems that the model had, once they sorted out the actual minor issues the car had it was a great little sports car. As for the Audi 5000, the so called "expose" that 60 minutes did against it was later determined to have been 100% faked, they intentionally over pressurized the transmission which caused the violent "sudden acceleration" which was shown in the report.
Yeah it really looks like they just did a glance at lists of "the most dangerous cars" without doing any actual research. The Fiero issues were only for the first couple of model years and was fixed after wards. The model T literally was one of the first cars on the road, and other cars at the time had similar design philosophy. As for the Corvair, that book just demonized that car
@@dude55man When I was a kid one of my neighbors bought a salvage auction '88 Fiero GT and built it into quite the cool little track car complete with a 350 V8 and custom backhalf tube frame.
The BMW isetta is my favorite BMW car ever!, It has a very cool and unique 2 stroke split single engine and some models had a solid rear axle with no differential 👍
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Not even a dishonorable mention for the Relient Robin?
Toyota MR2
And the cobalt problem was the ignition, not fuel line.
Lamborghini Gallardo (Automated Manual). The e-gear transmission has a high failure rate.
What about the TVR or the Koninsegg.
@@BruzoDragonius what do you mean?
My Grandad actually named the Ford Pinto, though he often would joke that he should have named it the firebird (for obvious reasons)
I would have named it the Ford Torch!!
I would of named it ford exploder
Ford C4
More like the Ford Fireball.
I rememeber when I was a little kid when my father test drove one. It stalled 3 times. On the third time we were in the lot and couldnt get it started. He passed on it. This was probably a good thing, since it turned out to be dangerous. Then he got a Chevy Vega which wasnt much better.
Manufacturers 60 years ago: Prioritizing performance over safety.
Manufacturers now: "Let's build safer cars with frustrating, distracting touch screen controls everywhere!"
Manufacturers...now?
Pfft. Nobody gives one damn about "safety"...just how fast can we make this thing go?
By your logic cars shouldn’t have radios because it will distract the driver.
So right...My wife's Durango R/T goes like a bat out of hell but I'll be dammed if I can find how to shut off the heat in the steering wheel. Ouch!
@@mat2000100 Mat, I don't think anyone wants to do away with a car radio, but I have to agree with Jeff. Let me give you my take.
Our 2004 Yukon has knobs and true buttons that are easily located. Our 2010 Yukon had a few more bells and whistles and I found the knobs and buttons had gotten smaller and with somewhat large fingers I would fumble around for them. The misses and I downsized to a Durango R/T, it is fast and well handling and has even more doodads but finding them to a 6o-year-old 6' guy is distracting...
Please note I still drive the 2004 Yukon. I did throw a Kenwood with navigation in it...One happy camper! :)
@@mat2000100 It may only be bluetooth loudspeakers next time. Who uses cds and tapes nowadays?
The Fiero connecting rod problem was the first model year only. There have been more engine fires in Ferrari's and Lambo's than Fireo ever had. As far as safety goes, the Fiero's space frame design had a 5-star crash rating.
Crash test didn't excist back than, so don't talk crap.
@@19tuureluur86 Online I looked that up, and in the US the auto-industry has been doing crash tests since at least '78.
@@abousono1 only frontal crashtest no offset. There was no standard back then.
Plus the first model Fiero had an iron duke engine which was also known to cause problems if I'm not mistaken. Donut Media did an extensive video on that car in Up To Speed should anyone want to check it out, it's funny as hell.
Can’t believe y’all mentioned Fiero’s and DIDNT use that clip from American Dad where Francine’s friend says “I Drive a FIERO?!?” in joy😂😂 woulda fit perfectly
Disappointed
I had a Fiero. The 6 cylinder model. As I understood (then and now) it was the 4 cylinder which had the issues. I never had any problem with mine.
Amen!!!
@@martinltpm you're pretty much lucky if you own the V6 Model, any Iron Duke Powered Fieros were basically on their death bed by the time they went off the lot
Or show Marshall's Fiero from HIMYM.
You have to take the Model T and Isetta in historical context. The national speed limit, once established, was something like 40 or 45 mph during a lot of the Model T's life, and as we all know its initial purpose was to replace the horse. And the Isetta both saved BMW from going under and gave extremely cash-strapped post-war Germans an alternative to walking or a motorcycle.
The fact that I have owned three of the cars on this list should make me thankful to still be alive.
Unfair to add the Ford Model T. There were no safety standards when it came out, much less safety glass. All cars of that era would be considered death traps using today’s standards.
I agree 100 %
84 Fiero had the problem. It was fixed in later years. Besides that it was one of the safest on the road in its class. Under the body panels was a roll cage. The car was way ahead of its time.
Looks like they didn’t do all their research on this one. SMH.
@@MrPJ16 well when top GM brass only gives you so much money (much less than required) problems are gonna happen. Then let's factor in the idiots that never bothered to check the oil levels let alone whether or not it is leaking whilist revving the piss outta the lil iron duke.
Why did the Yugo have a rear window defroster? To keep your hands warm while you were pushing it.
Well wasn't that thoughtful?
That's funny 🤣
I heard a rumor about how Ford executives knew about the fuel tank issue before the pinto's release but didn't bother to fix it because they figured out that it'd be cheaper to settle lawsuits than to fix and redesign the car
Not anly that but the first Mustangs had the same problem. someone then designed a metal cover for the stang to fix the problem. The Pinto just carried it for both cars.
What rarely gets mentioned, and it gets completely ignored in this video, is; once Pinto's got super-bumpers and moved the gastanks, they didn't have that problem anymore...
Other cars that had that problem, were all the GM cars with the gastank tube behind the rear license plate. And the Cadillac Seville with the bustle trunk...
Nope, that's a myth.
The Pinto was developed from late '67-'69 and released in September of 1970. Reports of Pintos being consumed by fire after being hit in the rear didn't start appearing until '73. Ford's Environmental and Safety Engineering office put out a memo the same year weighing up the cost-benefit of improving the Pinto's fuel tank safety in a roll-over (this is important) and decided against the changes due to the low probability of these incidents occurring.
In 1977 a woman was killed and her 13 year old passenger was seriously injured when the 1972 Pinto she was driving stalled on a freeway and was hit by a Ford Galaxie from the rear at 50mph. The family of the boy sued Ford, and during the trial the 1973 memo was leaked to the press by a writer from Mother Jones, who intentionally misled people into believing Ford designers had known about issues with the Pinto's fuel tank design from the beginning (the memo was about roll-over safety, not rear end collisions). He also overplayed the deaths attributed to the Pinto's design substantially, claiming that somewhere between 500 and 900 people had been killed when in reality it was 3 or 4, and these people had been extremely unlucky (hit directly in the rear by another car at 50+mph while they were stationary). In reality the Pinto was no worse than the Chevy Vega, AMC Gremlin and the Datsun 510, and it was significantly less fireprone than the VW Beetle, Datsun 210 and the Toyota Corolla.
Keep in mind, back then, all cars and manufacturers had the same gas tank design. It wasn’t just Ford. Just like the Chevy pickups, with saddle tanks, would explode on side impacts,while Ford trucks had their tanks inside the frame.
Not rumour, Ford actually did a cost analysis on profit lost from absorbing the cost of including a gas tank shield to prevent bolts on the rear axle perforating it in a rear impact accident vs how many people not including it would be killed x cost of payout, and found allowing a "small" number of buyers to get killed was the more profitable option. This came out during the famous wrongful death lawsuit involving a Pinto. The saddest part is that the fuel tank shield was going to be a mandatory inclusion from the second production year onwards, but Ford execs overruled the engineers to have it not included for one year only. The Pinto was designed to be (relatively) safe, and made unsafe by pure greed.
In defense of the Model T: It was one of the first cars so they may not have really known the right way to construct a car. None of the others on the list have that excuse.
The Model T have every safety feature required by law at the time.
About the Chevy Corvair: Nader was not entirely correct. It was proven in late 2017 by a trained, experienced stunt driver with a video published right here on UA-cam on the Hagerty YT channel a few years ago with NADER'S ACTUAL UNRESTORED AND UNMODIFIED 1962 Chevy Corvair Monza 4-door. A lot of these old contemporary films are of cars that were purposely sabotaged to make them seem unsafe. The Corvair had two generations. The first generation had the same basic rear axle design (NOT the same rear axle) as the venerable first generation Volkswagen Beetle. The second generation Corvair had a redesigned rear axle for the 1965 model year that addressed Nader's concerns, which coincidently was the year that "Unsafe at Any Speed" was published. Nader was admirably helping to change the basic car design to make cleaner and safer cars, but he did so by nefarious means. He essentially used the Corvair as a scape goat to sell books and leverage public opinion.
On the subject of gathering research: If anyone wants to ensure that any information is actually correct, get at least three unrelated sources that basically say the same thing. If that cannot be accomplished, take it with a grain of salt. Or in other words (a quote from one of my dad's grandfathers), "Don't believe anything you hear or half of what you see and doubt that other half." Next time, don't just skim over some "facts" and get it correct the first time...
There's a long ugly history of media hitpieces against otherwise perfectly fine cars and trucks.
The one that CBS did to the Audi 5000 was particularly vile because they had to intentionally sabotage the car by over pressurizing the transmission with excess fluid and then used an air compressor to forcibly induce "unintended acceleration" by making the already over pressurized transmission go into what amounted to "panic mode" by making it think it was going to blow up if it didn't switch into a high gear immediately.
There was also the famous "waiting to explode" hit piece that dateline did against GM pickups in 1992 where they deliberately misrepresented their "tests" by using a 1 ton pickup that was equipped with a dual tank fuel system which was sabotaged and then deliberately overfilled with fuel that was then "sealed" in the takns with fuel filler caps that were too small for one crash and then used a 1/4 ton model that didn't have dual tanks.
They also used an incendiary device to get the footage of a "dramatic gas explosion"with the 1 ton truck.
It was proven in 1972 by the NHTSA that the corvair wasn't any less safe than any contemporary car of the time. But Nader did the Corvair a favor. He gave it a few more years of production because of that book.
From '65 the Corvair was a very safe car. The original rear suspension ('60-'64) was poorly designed, giving the car a strong tendency to roll. I've driven the 1965 model, and loved the handling.
My parents had a ‘61 and a ‘65. This was before they had my brother and me.
There's no such thing as a safe car in a crash, but the Corvair is one of the more unsafe ones lol
My father owned a red corvair and drove to downtown Los Angeles from orange county all week every week. We ate late every night because of that. It never had one problem or broke down and we drove all over besides that. The only issue he had was getting someone to calibrate the carburetors. Never could find a mechanic for that but as hot as the summers were and stop and go driving on the freeways it ran and ran!
I bought one the first Corvair Monzas' when it came out in 1961. Ihad the "big engine" (98HP) with the 3-speed manual (should have waited for the 4-speed). I really liked the car, was quiet and rode smoothly. I had one incident where I entered a curve too and experienced the "oversteer". I was lucky in not going completely over the center line into oncoming traffic. But, I learned to respect the handling quirks of the car. I had only one mechanical issue with the car. One of the lifters was stuck when the car was started on a below zero night in Minnesota, sounded like someone hammering in the engine bay. The issue was resolved under warranty and had no more issues. I did trade the car within 6months, but only because I wanted the new compact Buick Skylark with the 190HP aluminum engine that had just come out. As for the Corvair, I would have bought another one, with the 4-speed!
My mother received a Ford Pinto as a high school graduation gift from my grandmother. One day, my uncle took it without her permission and ended up wrecking it. Thankfully, it didn't explode.
I wouldn’t even buy a Ford pinto for anyone. Especially my kids nor approve that as a car for them because how notoriously dangerous these cars are. I would even be scared to drive behind one.
@@BruzoDragonius not dangerous only 27 deaths for the millions sold
@@BruzoDragonius Pintos were not any more dangerous than other small cars of that time.
#8: As I recall, part of the problem with 4-cylinder Fieros was that, in order to get anything resembling ground clearance, the engine was fitted with a very shallow oil pan and as such had very little oil capacity. This made it very easy to run the engine dangerously low on oil.
Exactly
They used the same oil pan that was on these 4cyl engines in Celebritys and Citations. In other words they didn't need to modify that at all as it's pretty much flush with the subframe. What happened was everyone that bought the '84 and early '85 4 cyl cars revved the piss out of them and never bothered to check the oil level. So either oil would be leaking into the exhaust manifold or it would be low enough to cause the engine to just stop. Also the wire harness was another issue for the 1984 cars. This is mostly a driver error thing.
@@christopheryanoski6899 So, like the Audi 'unintended acceleration' issue....
@@pashakdescilly7517 I wouldn't doubt it. I've always heard about the electronics were crap tho. Idk if the electrical system would have any affect on it.
not mentioned was the brake failure problem on the GT model. I worked at a dealership that received one in a dealer trade. Poor driver had a brake failure at a toll road gate. The thing came in on a flatbed truck, smashed up pretty bad. It was fixed and sold. I don't know if the buyer knew what happened.
The reason the unintended acceleration incidents stopped for the audio 5000 was the addition of an interlock to prevent putting the car in gear if the brake wasn't depressed.
The no infamous 60 minutes hitpiece against the 5000 was later determined to have been faked by the same company that would later be named as a co-defendant when GM sued NBC and Dateline for slander and defamation over their provably false reporting in their 1992 hit piece "waiting to explode" which portrayed 1974/87 chevy/gmc pickups as "rolling bombs that are waiting to kill".
They deliberately over pressurized the transmission with excess fluid and used an air compressor to induce "sudden acceleration" that didn't occur naturally.
I done some searching and The DMC-12 is actually still being made. The factory is in Humble, Texas and supplies NOS and OEM parts for DMC owners and restorers. The company also sells full-spec cars. There’s dealerships in Florida and California
In 1972, when I was 17, I had an eye doctor appointment in Mitchell, Indiana. After the appointment, I had to get to Salem, about 20 miles away, where my high school was having an SAT test. I was running late. I had my 1963 Chevy Corvair up to 100 mph on the straightaways on Indiana State Road 60 (between Mitchell and Salem). I made it, no problems.
Im happy you mentioned the Yugo, my Mom used to own one and my three uncles would prank her because just 2 of them could pick it up, they would move it into the garage and turn it sideways for her in the morning when she would go to work
1:45 can confirm that weather intolerance is still a problem with hyundai. i had a 2008 santa fe and had to get the underbody coating redone bc the original coating apparently wasn’t working like it should (it was a recall). there was also significant paint delamination on the hood and roof but the car was out of warranty by the time i got the vehicle
My cousin was having problems with her car (engine seals were shot) and thought about buying a Santa Fe, my dad and I came along to check it out because we’re the car guys in the family… I sat in it, and flat out told her to just fix her car and save the difference between the repair cost and the Santa Fe… so cheap feeling inside it was a red flag to me. Her car lasted another 10 years before she had kids and got a Sienna (it’s better than a Pacifica or an Odyssey)… I couldn’t say the Santa Fe would have.
The Yugo was...obviously from Yo
Yugoslavia 😆
My dad actually owns a Ford Pinto before we changed to a bigger car with the arrival of my younger sister. I would definitely wanna get a DMC-12 when I can.
Buy a Bricklin SV1.
Surprised you didn't put the old Jeep CJ on the list. The pre 1980 models were very narrow, and extremely dangerous on the highway. The Institute for Highway Safety called it "the most dangerous thing on four wheels. It is probably more dangerous than anything on two wheels as well,"
Those "CJs" are STILL susceptable to the infamous "death wobble" at highway speeds!
Pontiac's new slogan: "We....build....NOTHING!"
You guys really need to do your homework. There were a total of less than 125 documented fires on the Fiero and they were all '84s. They were all caused by a mismarked dipstick that showed there was enough oil when there wasn't. Not a bad record for over 350,000 Fieros sold over 5 model years. If I've done my math correctly, that's less than 0.0005%. Yes, they were underpowered but even the base models handled like they were on rails. How do I know all this. Well, I've owned 6 of them and I belong to the largest Fiero forum in the world. Again, do your homework, guys.
I remember the joke about the Yugo. It was so cheap because everything was optional. The seats, the engine, the wheels, etc.
My first two cars were the Pinto and the Bobcat, which was Mercury’s version. I learned to drive with both feet in the Pinto because if you took you foot off the gas for the first couple of miles it would stall.
6:15 I finally know what car Guido is from cars.
i'm honestly so surprised the Reliant Robin wasn't on this list nor the dishonorable mentions at least.
Despite them being potential death traps, the Fiero was one of the most awesome cars you could own at the time. Everyone wanted one, and those that had them were suddenly the most popular people within the solar system. Owning that car made you more or less a rock star. I knew about their reputation so I never bought one. But now I have my dream car anyway, which incidentally is not a Fiero, so it's pretty much a moot point. They were pretty slick, I have to give them that though.
Later generations of the Fiero fixed the oil issue.
The fiero was a great car, I bought the second model year. It oil issue was caused by the car being fitted with too small of an oil filter. I sold mine with 250.000 miles on the original engine.. it was great.
My dad got rear ended in a Pinto ('74) by a girl driving a Beetle. Her front bumper went under his rear bumper and it crushed her trunk lid in pretty bad. There was no visible damage to the Pinto at all and it did not blow up (obviously). Not sure if the recall "fix" had been done at this point or not. Just glad no one got hurt. Actually, I took my driving test in that Pinto in '79. In '80 I was screwing around in it on a dirt road and broke both motor mounts.
I still cringe remembering riding in the back of my grandparents pony in winter in Saskatchewan.
Even as a kid that thing felt like a death trap.
I had a Fiero in high school and it was a shell when I bought it when I was 15 and I swapped it with an LS1 and a 6 speed manual transmission and reinforced the frame and put huge brakes on it and track focused suspension set up.
When I was a kid one of my neighbors built a pretty sweet track car out of a salvage '89 Fiero GT.
He put a twin turbo 350 V8 in it along with a full racing rollcage and suspension, that thing could run a 1/4 mile in 7.75 seconds.
What I enjoy the most is that the guy who was central to the Ford Pinto is now a college professor. A professor in what? _Ethics._
#7: Unsafe At Any Speed focused primarily on the first-generation Corvair, which had a swing-axle rear suspension. While it was unsafe in the hands of a driver who wasn't used to it, this was not unique to the Corvair, as this type of rear suspension was used on several other cars such as the Volkswagen Beetle, Porsche 356, and Triumph Spitfire. The second-generation Corvair had a proper independent rear suspension with double-jointed halfshafts four years before VW equipped the Beetle with such a suspension.
In the case of the first-gen Corvair, however, GM did itself no favors by recommending ridiculously low tire pressures.
I am not sure why, but it ended up as a sacrificial car for the likes of Nadar for safety features,. It could have maybe been that thye realized that the car had a potential to outshine the 'Vette/ This Company will never let that happen. And yes, it could have been this Countries Porsche.
The '65 and later Corvair Monza Spyder really held its own in a number of SCCA meets in the late '60s.
You may have to review this article. Only half way through and the main problem is the driver, not the car. Maybe retitle"Cars That Bad Drivers Should Avoid".
Top Ten Harmless Cars Ever Made
Example: Stormtrooper Car
The only thing the Stormtrooper Car will hit is the garage door frame. ;)
The Delorean was designed without researching US Highway rules… so they had to jack it up by almost 2 inches to meet the bumper height requirements, which ruined the handling, and the engine was designed for European emissions standards, so slapping the required catalytic converter on the exhaust choked out the engine power in the American version. Although you can lower the suspension with aftermarket parts, the engine really can’t be helped… until you learn that for Back to the Future II after how poorly the car did with the added weight of the props, they put in an Porsche Boxer engine… because it’s a perfect fit in the engine bay.
The engine CAN be helped - a Chevy LS will fit in place of the original PRV V6.
I would consider my Geo Metro more dangerous than most of the cars you listed. If I had less than a half tank of gas and it was raining, that car would hydroplane at any speed over 30mph.
I knew that the pinto is on this list due to the location of the fuel tank and thus the car would blow up when rear ended. I wouldn’t even feel safe in a for pinto. But no mention of the reliant Robin, one of the TVRs and the first Koninsegg. These are also more dangerous to be in.
You guys REALLY need to do some basic research before making any video about cars. You can't even differentiate between generations of the same car, and then you just repeat the claptrap that was disproven years ago. Waste of time, energy, and money.
some Porsche 911's should be on this list, they didnt earn the moniker "the widowmaker" without good reason.
Sounds like you're referring to the 930 (911 Turbo). It had all the usual handling quirks of a 911 thanks to having the engine hanging behind the rear axle, coupled with sluggish off-boost throttle response and the sudden onset of power once the turbo spooled up. That said, even a normally-aspirated 911 is more than happy to kill any driver who doesn't give it proper respect.
They solved the problem with unpredictable handling in the 911 Turbo by adding a giant "whale tale" spoiler on the back to provide downforce on the rerar axle.
The "big wing" was an essential design element too the 930 until computerized traction and stability control systems got advanced enough to eliminate the need for the wing in its entirety in the mid 2010's.
@@Hammerhead547 The trouble is, even big wings don't make much downforce at low speeds. And 911's haven't gotten rid of rear wings or spoilers entirely; some of them have a spoiler that pops up after you exceed a certain speed, and GT2 and GT3 models have a fixed rear wing mounted on the rear deck.
And as I mentioned, the unpredictable handling of the 930 wasn't all due to a lack of downforce or extreme rear weight bias. When you're dealing with 1970's engine management and a 6.5:1 compression ratio, you've got pretty sluggish response... until the turbo spools up, and suddenly you're going into the ditch ass-first.
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The 911 GT2/3 are meant to be track cars that porsche recommends not be driven on the streets but that doesn't stop some owners from driving them on the street.
The minute I saw the title, I immediately thought "Ford Pinto". Also, Isn't it kinda unfair to put the Model T on here? I mean, the automobile was pretty much still a brand new concept in 1908. They were all dangerous lol
I had a Cobalt. It was a good car. Had 21 months left on it until it started falling apart. Mainly from wear & tear due to pizza deliveries.
A family friend had a Hyundai Pony for years, the car would do 20 mph floored up hills lol
The most dangerous car is the one being driven dangerously. It matters not what kind of car it may be. It's the driver, not the car.
That said, yes, some incompetently designed and built cars are dangerously prone to harm people. The Corvair was a cute little, inexpensive car, but it could have been all of that and still have been well- conceived.
I am so glad to see the Daewoo Lanos is not on the list even though it has killed people in Pineapple Express. 😄
I’m willing to bet the Ford Pinto is Number 1 on the list. This is before I watch the video.
I’ll bet on that too…let’s see if we are right. I’ll come back in a minute😂
@@Mergatroid_Skittle We’re right.
@@seanman1231 yep you called it😂😂😂
@@Mergatroid_Skittle LOL
I’m surprised they didn’t mention the Chevy Vega or the AMC Gremlin.
You forgot to put the Paster and the old tiny Ford Bronco on that list.
Bruce Willis can’t escape the Yugo!
I see you didn't mention the Toyota MR2....
But I'm glad you didn't include the Suzuki samurai, we know that Consumer Reports faked the rollover data. And that it didn't rollover any easier than any other vehicle.
And the cobalts problem was the ignition would shut off if you accidentally pulled on the keys...thus you have zero power steering. The fuel line heat shield causing it to rust is a problem that happens after like 100,000 miles.
Finally after so long another list about cars. More car list please.
The Yugo GV's spare tire was mounted up front, right behind the engine, so, that made it very difficult to access.
Almost bought a Yugo for myself instead I got myself a Kawasaki 250 ( figured I be safer on a motorcycle). But my late grandparents bought a 197? Pinto. That lasted after my grandparents died and my uncle drove it into the late 80’s with no problems whatsoever.
A 1975 Ford Pinto was the first and worst car that I owned. Bought it for $2K in '76 with 12,000 miles on it, and during the four years I owned the pony I spent more money keeping it on the road than I did buying it. I finally got rid of the Pinto with 45,000 hard earned miles on the odometer. Other than the brakes, transmission, engine, suspension and steering it was a great little car...
Strange experience. I had a '77 Pinto (bought in '78) and never had any problems with it. Owned it for several years.
I knew the Ford Pinto would be number 1 on this list and here in Australia they were never even released! It's a bit of a shame....I think aesthetically the pinto looks kinda cool...
My first car was a Fiero.
You should've mentioned the Edsel
I personally think that Ralph Nader’s mouth is unsafe at any range, because there are safe drivers that can drive some cars that are considered to be unsafe at any speed.
My first car is in fact a 1965 corvair monza gen 2 140hp, I guess I’ll truly find out how safe it is
By 65 all the bugs were out. Gen 2 cars had a whole new rear suspension set up. Just maintain tire pressures correctly.
I’m so glad by how much the Kia Rio has improved. I have a 2023 Kia Rio and it’s the best.
I've driven a DeLorean before... the shifter fell off and the clutch was unbelievably heavy, but it was an awesome experience for a fan like myself. Now, I'm about to see the same car again.
my neighbor had one. he said it was one of worst cars he drove but he did like how futuristic it looked
@@mattalan6618 They're bad. They're really really really bad. But the first time I saw one, as the big BTTF fan I am... I couldn't hold back my tears for 20 minutes. XD
When the Yugo came out, I remember Consumer Reports remarking, "The Yugo GV is basically an old Fiat design, and Fiats weren't known for reliability. A poor buy when new, and a risky buy when used."
Maruti Suzuki's whole line-up in India smiling at this list in the background 😂😂
Lee Iacocca was the man who greenlighted the Ford Pinto for production. Not long after, Henry Ford III fired him.
Henry Ford III was an idiot, he also shitcaanned the design team that was working on a new project that would've seen ford build the first real minivan in the industry (it was slated to enter production in 1982) but because he was so attached to the giant station wagons which were the industry standard at the time he fired the entire team that was working on it and let them take all their work with them across town to lee iacocca and chrysler.
The rest as they say is history in that chrysler introduced the Dodge Caravan in 1984 and built a nameplate dynasty that lasted for almost 40 years while ford was left playing catch up and never quite got it right with the aerostar and windstar before abandoning the market in the late 00's.
THESE CARS ARE DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
these listed cars reminded me of that Homer designed at his half-brothers motor company
I have a 2015 Kia Rio. Not only do I love it but I haven't had not one problem with it. Best car I ever had.
I remember seeing something about 70s and 80 GM truck being fire hazards due to the "side saddle" fuel tanks. Get T-boned and instant fuel leak. Though, trucks before that had fuel tanks behind the bench seat.
GM had saddle tanks mounted outside the frame,and very , while Ford had the tanks inside the frame. The extra tanks were added so Chevy could brag their trucks could go farther on a tank(s) of gas, than a standard Ford truck.
Regarding the Chinese and safety.....Chairman Mao: Don't worry...if we lose a couple hundred thousand people in car accidents...our people are like the American "Dorito".....we'll make more.... Wonder what Leno would say about that?
I've been a DeLorean owner for 20 years and haven't had any of the problems you described.
There should be a choice on Jeopardy called "millennials angry at old cars".
In my parents wedding album were the only pictures of the cars they had owned back then. My dad had an orange GTO with a 400 cubic inch engine. And my mother had a powder blue Pinto. In my later years when I found out the flaws of the pinto, I would from time to time make fun of it. And every time my mother would reply "I loved my pinto." Then proceed to stick her tongue out at me.
The red Corvair shown in the Jay Leno footage was a post facelift Monza - built well after the chassis problems were sorted out. Late Corvairs - especially the coupés and convertibles - are collectible now and no less safe than other cars of that period (admittedly a low hurdle to clear...)
I remember the discussion about "uncontrolled acceleration" in Audis in the very early 80s. This appeared to be a US only matter - it basically didn't happen in Europe so many Germans thought it was all down to US drivers.
Was it?
'no less safe' ? Actually, the '65-on Corvair has been described as handling like a sports car.
@@pashakdescilly7517 I prefer to be cautious. By today's standards, even a 1965 sportscar is not really safe.
I'd drive one of those late Corvairs in fine weather and for leisure, but I wouldn't want to rack up miles in everyday traffic with it.
@@notroll1279 Agreed - my point was that by the standard of the day, the '65-on Corvairs had good handling and steering. I made no comment about other aspects of its design and safety... Some do say that the rear engine allowed the designers to create a large front crumple zone in the event of a head-on smash.
You should look at a video on YT channel 'Harry's Garage', on his Lotus Elan Series 4. The Elan came out in '63, and set standards for handling, steering and ride that compare with the best modern cars. It was the inspiration for the Mazda MX5, and can lap a race circuit even faster. But passive safety? As Harry said, think of the bodywork as like the fairing on a motorcycle - it keeps the weather off, but does not protect you if you crash
STOP slamming the Pinto.
No 1980s Porsche 911 turbo (930) it had the Nick name "the widowmaker" for a reason.
You forgot about 2 death traps. The pacer x and the gremlin
The Hyundai Pony was front wheel drive, but still a death trap.
The 1st gen Pony was actually really RWD, but its successor (Marketed as Excel in North America and Australia) switched to FWD
It's like the concord on the road!
Toyota had unintended acceleration problems, but Toyota the worlds junk dealer was Consumer reports baby.
I had a feeling that the Pinto and Corvair would be included on this list! Their respective reputations would be highly publicized!
GREAT CARS STILL VEGAS,, PINTOS ,, RABBITS..CORVAIR.. VW,.THANKS GREAT VIDEOS!!!
One well known car magazine was comparing low-cost cars. They summed up their review of the Yugo, "noone should take poverty this seriously".
I remember driving a Hyundai Sonata, we hit a bump and a vent fell out of the dash, the sales rep said "Even Hondas had troubles in the early years", I told him "When Hyundai gets to Honda's quality I'll come back"
Now I understand the Pinto scene in "Top Secret!" movie 🤣
I owned a Pony and I liked it. I could get my Pony started in -40 C winter due to the manual choke before others could get their Domestic cars started. Yes it was a simple car and the locks were near useless, but it did for years what I asked of it!
Please do not blame the car for driver stupidity.
The DeLorean "snow" tires because you love doing it
We had a ford pinto in the 80s. It was HORRIBLE in the snow. Had no idea it was a death box as a child...haven't seen one in a long long time.
That problem with the Fiero was only in the first generation. By the second generation they had everything fixed and they ran really well actually. But word of mouth had already made it around and sales flopped
You really can blame incompetent owners who treated their fireo's abusively for the problems that the model had, once they sorted out the actual minor issues the car had it was a great little sports car.
As for the Audi 5000, the so called "expose" that 60 minutes did against it was later determined to have been 100% faked, they intentionally over pressurized the transmission which caused the violent "sudden acceleration" which was shown in the report.
Yeah it really looks like they just did a glance at lists of "the most dangerous cars" without doing any actual research. The Fiero issues were only for the first couple of model years and was fixed after wards. The model T literally was one of the first cars on the road, and other cars at the time had similar design philosophy. As for the Corvair, that book just demonized that car
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When I was a kid one of my neighbors bought a salvage auction '88 Fiero GT and built it into quite the cool little track car complete with a 350 V8 and custom backhalf tube frame.
The BMW isetta is my favorite BMW car ever!, It has a very cool and unique 2 stroke split single engine and some models had a solid rear axle with no differential 👍
I loved my Fierro, wish they still made them.
Funny how we're all so used to bullsh!t lying advertising that we don't even bat an eye when it happens anymore.
The Ford pinto
Note to self: never buy a car named after a horse except mustang or bronco
Infernophobia - the fear of being rear ended while driving a Ford Pinto.