I’m not opposed to buying one and in fact, wil be putting quite a bit of thought in to it. But folks have got to do a deeper dive in to what it means to claim of higher quality. Just adding more superlatives is not really justifying what appears to be an all machined version of a 686. If you’re going to claim such superior quality then we (ok I) need alloy and heat treat differences, dimensional tolerances on individual features and limits of fit, dimensional comparisons on parts that we attribute to durability such as locking bolts, hands, cylinder walls, chamber uniformity, bolt-to-window clearance. Bore scope the barrel and show us the finish here and at the forcing cone. And lastly if I’m not the only Bullseye shooter out there, a fifty yard Ransom Rest group test with multiple handloads and factory loads. This just scratches the surface of what I feel it means to include the detail behind the oversimplified claims of superior quality. The few details mentioned above can all be addressed by a good pistolsmith, on an S&W to ring out the performance apparently available with an OTS Spohr, but we can get there with a whole lot less cash. Details please.
Informative and great video. I'm actually looking at 357s to buy. I know it's expensive, but it's not that much more expensive from a performance center Smith or a Colt Python. I think I'm leaning toward this. Just got to find where to buy one from
Quality to price ratio is unbeatable in DA revolvers. However, aesthetics are a matter of taste. I do prefer the looks of a Korth Mongoose better. Perhaps it's a size ratio thing, I'm not sure. The Mongoose is equivalent to a K-frame, but still tough as nails. The Manurhin MR73 has an aesthetic appeal of its own, but what's more incredible about the Manurhin is the reputation of taking absolute max .357 loads (as originally designed in the 1930's) in the 10's of thousands, a steady diet, and no dimensional or lockup problems will occur. It's got supreme materials and fit. The strength of the MR73 reminds me of the strength of a Super Redhawk. Both the Korth and Manurhin will be more expensive. For the rest of us, a GP100 or 686 might be just fine, but we'll have to throw money at them to smooth out the function and true up the accuracy. Ruger's Customshop and Smith's Performance Center just won't accomplish what a good revolver gunsmith can do, unfortunately.
@@tysonfromm5397 fair question. I’ have a lot of trigger tine with wheelguns and I’m confident on my hand placement, though - I have been bit before (over confident).
@@davidw4151 Spohr's customer care is highly personalized and expert-driven, emphasizing quality service through their U.S.-based Service Center staffed by a German Master Gunsmith to ensure top-tier support for their precision revolvers.
In this video, are you using .38 special rounds or .357 magnum? I ask, because the amounts of both recoil and flash would suggest that .38 special rounds are being used. If it is .357 mag, please reply back with the specifics (brand, grain, etc.).
There's a heathy dose of both. We'd have to go shot for shot to determine which is being used. There were only two brands on this shoot. Speer Lawman 158g FMJ 38 spl and Federal American Eagle 158g JSP 357 mag.
@@unclehangfire For some reason I cannot explain, my 4.0 L562 STD Spohr does not like 158g FMJ .357 mag from Ammo Inc. - within 250 rounds, the cylinder locked up twice, because the forcing cone area had splinters of the jacket essentially cold-welded on to the surface (i.e., in the cylinder gap). Spohr USA (repair shop in PA) theorized the Ammo Inc rounds could be loaded a bit too hot. I don't have the expertise to say.
I personally think modern .357mag loads are a joke compared to what the cartridge was originally designed to do. Saami caps the pressure to 35,000 psi, and that's less than it once was, around 42,000 psi. Back when Douglas B. Wesson and Phillip B. Sharpe designed it, it turned out 158gr loads at 1525 fps from a 8-3/8 barrel. Considerable trail testing by Doug W. occurred after it was produced, including big game without a hitch. Today the Federal, Remington, Winchester stuff is little more than 38 Special +p+. If a handgun in .357magnum cannot be produced that will withstand a steady long-term diet of true magnum performance, it's junk. Plain and simple. I'd rather honor the original purpose for the creation of the .30-06 of the handgun world, the .357magnum, than to shoot watered down fluff and act like I've got a real magnum. Too many cartridges in today's trends are watered down. .357, 10mm, .40S&W, .38 Special, all suffer from water-down syndrome because of weak lightweight crap people want to shoot them from.
This L model could easily handle 7 shots, with all the meat in the cylinder. You'd need a larger frame for an 8 shot. Korth runs 8-shot .357 chambers on their 44 magnum frame.
They claim it's was new. I emailed Spohr with pictures. They said oh I'm sorry you're not 100% happy. Yes, rust shouldn't be there. But you can polish the rust off. I ask you this. When you buy a brand new $4000 gun do you expect to scrub metal pitting rust off it?
Really appreciate your content, great video 👍
Wayy too positive for youtube. These comment sections are only for being mean or dumb.
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Great review Mitch. Now I have to buy another wheel gun.
If I thought you'd regret it I'd say so.
I’m not opposed to buying one and in fact, wil be putting quite a bit of thought in to it. But folks have got to do a deeper dive in to what it means to claim of higher quality. Just adding more superlatives is not really justifying what appears to be an all machined version of a 686. If you’re going to claim such superior quality then we (ok I) need alloy and heat treat differences, dimensional tolerances on individual features and limits of fit, dimensional comparisons on parts that we attribute to durability such as locking bolts, hands, cylinder walls, chamber uniformity, bolt-to-window clearance. Bore scope the barrel and show us the finish here and at the forcing cone. And lastly if I’m not the only Bullseye shooter out there, a fifty yard Ransom Rest group test with multiple handloads and factory loads. This just scratches the surface of what I feel it means to include the detail behind the oversimplified claims of superior quality. The few details mentioned above can all be addressed by a good pistolsmith, on an S&W to ring out the performance apparently available with an OTS Spohr, but we can get there with a whole lot less cash. Details please.
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Where TF are people getting these. There are like 3 on gunbroker and they are all 4”. I want a 283. Or a club 3”.
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Informative and great video. I'm actually looking at 357s to buy. I know it's expensive, but it's not that much more expensive from a performance center Smith or a Colt Python. I think I'm leaning toward this. Just got to find where to buy one from
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Quality to price ratio is unbeatable in DA revolvers.
However, aesthetics are a matter of taste. I do prefer the looks of a Korth Mongoose better. Perhaps it's a size ratio thing, I'm not sure. The Mongoose is equivalent to a K-frame, but still tough as nails.
The Manurhin MR73 has an aesthetic appeal of its own, but what's more incredible about the Manurhin is the reputation of taking absolute max .357 loads (as originally designed in the 1930's) in the 10's of thousands, a steady diet, and no dimensional or lockup problems will occur. It's got supreme materials and fit. The strength of the MR73 reminds me of the strength of a Super Redhawk.
Both the Korth and Manurhin will be more expensive.
For the rest of us, a GP100 or 686 might be just fine, but we'll have to throw money at them to smooth out the function and true up the accuracy. Ruger's Customshop and Smith's Performance Center just won't accomplish what a good revolver gunsmith can do, unfortunately.
Yehey, I got my club 3.0
Did the cylinder gap get ya?
@@tysonfromm5397 fair question. I’ have a lot of trigger tine with wheelguns and I’m confident on my hand placement, though - I have been bit before (over confident).
What kind of warranty do they have?
@@davidw4151 Spohr's customer care is highly personalized and expert-driven, emphasizing quality service through their U.S.-based Service Center staffed by a German Master Gunsmith to ensure top-tier support for their precision revolvers.
And....... the warranty? Like, limited? Full? Lifetime?
In this video, are you using .38 special rounds or .357 magnum? I ask, because the amounts of both recoil and flash would suggest that .38 special rounds are being used. If it is .357 mag, please reply back with the specifics (brand, grain, etc.).
There's a heathy dose of both. We'd have to go shot for shot to determine which is being used. There were only two brands on this shoot. Speer Lawman 158g FMJ 38 spl and Federal American Eagle 158g JSP 357 mag.
@@unclehangfire For some reason I cannot explain, my 4.0 L562 STD Spohr does not like 158g FMJ .357 mag from Ammo Inc. - within 250 rounds, the cylinder locked up twice, because the forcing cone area had splinters of the jacket essentially cold-welded on to the surface (i.e., in the cylinder gap). Spohr USA (repair shop in PA) theorized the Ammo Inc rounds could be loaded a bit too hot. I don't have the expertise to say.
I personally think modern .357mag loads are a joke compared to what the cartridge was originally designed to do. Saami caps the pressure to 35,000 psi, and that's less than it once was, around 42,000 psi. Back when Douglas B. Wesson and Phillip B. Sharpe designed it, it turned out 158gr loads at 1525 fps from a 8-3/8 barrel. Considerable trail testing by Doug W. occurred after it was produced, including big game without a hitch.
Today the Federal, Remington, Winchester stuff is little more than 38 Special +p+. If a handgun in .357magnum cannot be produced that will withstand a steady long-term diet of true magnum performance, it's junk. Plain and simple. I'd rather honor the original purpose for the creation of the .30-06 of the handgun world, the .357magnum, than to shoot watered down fluff and act like I've got a real magnum.
Too many cartridges in today's trends are watered down. .357, 10mm, .40S&W, .38 Special, all suffer from water-down syndrome because of weak lightweight crap people want to shoot them from.
Did you have same problem?
Who else would like to see an 8 shot 357 from Spohr?
This L model could easily handle 7 shots, with all the meat in the cylinder.
You'd need a larger frame for an 8 shot. Korth runs 8-shot .357 chambers on their 44 magnum frame.
Nice revolver, a bit of fluff, though
@@jamestorregrossa1185 I’m losing weight bro. Going to the gym and eating way better. Geeez youtube comments are rough.
@@unclehangfire lol
Korth is better trust me! And nighthawk warranties the guns for life
Buyer beware!! The US Sphor distributor sent me a new Spohr revolver with rust. Dishonest business practice
Where is the "dishonestly"? Did they deny it's condition on delivery?
They claim it's was new. I emailed Spohr with pictures. They said oh I'm sorry you're not 100% happy. Yes, rust shouldn't be there. But you can polish the rust off. I ask you this. When you buy a brand new $4000 gun do you expect to scrub metal pitting rust off it?
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@@unclehangfiresent!
@@florakattijaari7357 Got it. We'll continue to monitor this.
To bad you can not find them for sale.
sales@spohrguns.com 🤙